technology

[quick locust]

[supple bane]

SSD's do fragment but it doesnt matter for them as they can randomly access data, kinda the whole idea of them.

[quick locust]

https://twitter.com/Naaackers/status/1471494415306788870

Naaackers (@Naaackers)

Remember yesterday’s news about TikTok releasing a go live platform? Turns out it’s a fork of @OBSProject

Shoutout to @HunterAP23 for pointing this out

STOP STEALING FROM OBS JESUS

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[lunar dawn]

its not stealing if tik tok makes it open source

we ll have to see

[quick locust]

It'll still have to follow licence

[latent light]

RTX 4070 should have 14K CUDA

[proud trellis]

how much did the 3070 have ?

[latent light]

Uh around 6K I think

[proud trellis]

wait what

[latent light]

RTX 4090 tops out over 18K

[proud trellis]

any dates known on release yet ?

[latent light]

Late 2022 as far as leaks go

[proud trellis]

ah thats perfect timing if true

[latent light]

CUDA cores don't matter much anymore really

[proud trellis]

oh

[latent light]

Ampere CUDA is only about 60% of the performance of a Turing CUDA core

RTX 2080 Ti with 4,352 CUDA cores is faster most of the time than the RTX 3070 with 5,888 cores

[stark gazelle]

Guys my brand new pc doesn’t give any hdmi signal help

[midnight crypt]

did you plug the hdmi into the gpu

and not the motherboard

[stark gazelle]

I’ll try

Yes, thanks

[supple bane]

have you plugged the power cables in for the gpu?

[stark gazelle]

It works, all good

[storm osprey]

classic

[latent light]

[humble iris]

You guys talking about HDDs being loud? and slow? if used correctly they are not loud nor slow. I have 6 WD Blacks in raid0 and perform very well, and fast. It's no NVMe but it's faster transfer then SATA SSD, and seek time is very good as well. 6TB If I setup a Dram cache it out performs NVMe as well. but that's kind of cheating. https://p1.builds.gg/builds_pictures/14000/14981/176545/176545_1000.jpg

[small kelp]

4 times now it made me play the opening game vs bots

i dont get it, my friends been playing it twice

[midnight crypt]

no one mentioned hdds sorry

[humble iris]

around 11:40am ^

[quick locust]

dram is faster than ssds, more news at 11

[humble iris]

yup and alot of those SSDs use Dram cache, some even use the system ram

[raw turtle]

just leave the game lmao

the opening game is a AI match to introduce you to the game

[small kelp]

-.-

i've played it throuygh 4 times -.-

fuck me

let's just forget my comment alright?

[raw turtle]

sure

[midnight crypt]

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-5000-to-launch-on-march-8-2022

Pretty late considering Ryzen 6000 is aimed for January announcement

[quick locust]

No competition i guess

[latent light]

Yeah once they put 8-channel memory on the PRO 3000 series, it just became a blowout in terms of competition

[quick locust]

Imagine 64 core golden cove

[latent light]

64-core Epyc Zen 3D with 804MB cache

[tall temple]

Does anyone have any advice for how to get into a game?
Playing through Steam, yes checked integrity /repair on files
uninstalled/reinstalled
Ever time I get into game, it ques up the lobby but never actually launches into a game.
My internet is 100/40 and appear to be blazing fast best on test and speedtest.net
i'm at a losss???

Ryzen 9 5900x
32g DDR4
RTX 3070
Win 10

[latent light]

Intel Arc Alchemist SKU names pop-up in early driver, DG3 Elasti Battlemage to feature multi-GPU architecture and 3D stacking to take on Nvidia Lovelace and AMD RDNA 3 in early 2023

[karmic barn]

anybody tried the game with the new nvidia drivers? any improvement?

[prisma anvil]

Cpu bound game. Nvidia drivers won't improve much or any at all.

[lunar dawn]

honestly the ones that added support to the game did improve fps but since then its basically been the same

[prisma anvil]

yeah

I meant from now on.

[lunar dawn]

that said sometimes new drivers can fix important bugs, for example with this driver release they fixed the flickering bug when you use 2 monitors

[prisma anvil]

true. its mostly up to game dev now

[fresh lily]

am i the only one who has driver crashes from this game

[midnight crypt]

update them or use DDU and do a fresh driver install

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/ayaneo-next-handheld-gaming-console-to-feature-next-generation-amd-cores

Zen 3D CPU is in the new Ayaneo coming next week

Or it could just be Zen 3 on 6nm

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/raspberry-pi-4-in-short-supply

[dusky glacier]

how is the performance compared to 12th gen Intel?

[quick locust]

Noone knows yet

Besides AMD

[dusky glacier]

oh

[tawny schooner]

any AMD gpu user here ??

how much sharpness do u use ?

[midnight crypt]

dont use sharpness

[tawny schooner]

okay

[latent light]

Prototype 12-core Zen 3D CPU was 15% faster on average than a 5900X in gaming

12900K is 9% faster than 5900X at 1080p on average

Both fixed at 4 GHz

[latent light]

AMD X670 chipset could be a multi-chip module (MCM) design incorporating two middle-end B650 chipsets.

[supple bane]

and whats the advantage of that ?

just seems like itd be more expensive to me.

[latent light]

Mini-ITX X670 may not happen because of this

2 chipsets would be too large for Mini-ITX

[latent light]

Found out MCM chipset is aimed to mainly increase PCIe lanes

[latent light]

B650 chipset has same amount of PCIe lanes as X570, X670 would be double then

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv40Viz-KTc

[prisma anvil]

I think 3D cache is there to compensate for the high ram latency of the zen3 architecture. Besides the cache I don't see them improving IPC, maybe by a tiny bit via binning and clockspeed. Alderlake will still win in IPC and clockspeed by some margins. I would say in bigger game intel should still win. Esp a max tuned alderlake. I do however hope amd surprise me either using performance or pricing.

Alderlake IPC is actually cracked.

[latent light]

Cache is gonna increase IPC, any kind of tweaks made to a CPU will affect it

Having 3x the amount of LLC is significant

[prime jasper]

grim gram is such a nerd lol

[latent light]

[prime jasper]

Changed cases today, very enjoyable to build in the O11 Air Mini

No QC issues besides like 1 convex that was torqued too much

And my temps have actually slightly improved coming from a P500d

Mainly on the CPU side of things

[quick locust]

My case is quite old but decent

Kinda wish there was more space behind left side panel

But minor things

[prime jasper]

I mostly switched because I got tired of the design of my p500, felt like it was a bit too big and issues with the built in rgb

[quick locust]

Ah

[prime jasper]

but I made the right call, big fan of the design choices they made on this o11

[quick locust]

I mostly avoid rgb, software mess

[prime jasper]

Yeah this was mostly a hardware issue, all the rgb got a yellow hue, red flickering occasionally

[quick locust]

Ah

[prime jasper]

And it would keep turning itself on out of nowhere

Ghost case

[quick locust]

I use a raven 2

Old case but decent enough

[prime jasper]

And I’ve just got RGB on my mobo , gpu and my ram now, not a fan of rgb fans

[quick locust]

Wouldn't know which case I would choose rn

[prime jasper]

O11 evo 😳

[quick locust]

I would spam T30 fans everywhere though

Jk

Maybe the Torrent

[prime jasper]

Its ridiculous how if you want to get like, all Noctua polycarbonate fans for that you end up spending $350 on just fans

[quick locust]

Yeah

Corsair and noctua expensive

[prime jasper]

Yeah, got 4x 140mm noctua and 4x 120mm noctua rn

F12 and A14

[quick locust]

I use all silverstone

Cause came with case and is decent

Except noctua cpu cooler

[prime jasper]

I think lian li stockfans might not even be that bad but I removed them right away

Yeah I got a pretty small noctua cpu cooler, the U12S something

[quick locust]

Don't know which they use

[prime jasper]

Performs good enough

didn’t want to get the D15, just a tad too big

[quick locust]

That's what I use

But I got an OCd 8700K

So kinda toasty chip

[prime jasper]

I got an 5800x, current cooler barely manages but it manages

[quick locust]

Kind of want a 12700K

But not now

[prime jasper]

Yeah, I’m looking forward to AMD zen 4

[prisma anvil]

alderlake DDR4 with 4000 cl15 in gear 1

thats 200+ fps in 2042

same zen4 gonna be awesome

[quick locust]

Alder lake plus arc s380

Intel gaming

[prisma anvil]

I am super impressed with alderlake

[quick locust]

Ryzen cpu with intel gpu

[prisma anvil]

but it is the problem that intel made this big of a jump that they are stuck with 14nm skylake and the meme rocket lake for years

[quick locust]

Yeah due to delays

10nm was supposed to be much earlier on desktop

[prisma anvil]

like alderlake can match skylake cores in clockspeed and the memory controller is really good as well

intel didnt have a middle ground all these years and let amd get them at zen3

[quick locust]

Yeah due to delays

[prisma anvil]

well gaming wise zen3 is still like tied with 10th gen if max tuned but everything else gets yeeted

[latent light]

11th gen would of been good if it had been on 10nm

Intel 10nm is denser than TSMC 7/6mm

[storm osprey]

ive seen somewhere that the way they measure the nodes isnt the same so its misleading

[latent light]

If rocket-lake had been on 10nm instead of 14nm, alder-lake wouldn't have seemed so impressive as it is

[storm osprey]

https://www.pcgamer.com/chipmaking-process-node-naming-lmc-paper/

[latent light]

Rocket-lake 10nm would of been faster than Zen 3 in gaming

[vapid estuary]

it really feels like intel is just increasing the power limit and boost clock speed to get higher performance

[storm osprey]

12700k uses less power than 11700k

[quick locust]

Not with alder lake

New uarch on intel 10

Before that sure, as they were stuck on old node and skylake for a long timr

[latent light]

Wonder if Intel's 4 node (7nm) will come with Lunar-Lake

CPUs in the next 3-4 years are gonna be so damn strong 360Hz will be easy to play at for pretty much all games

Though most people don't really care about going beyond 120/144hz

[quick locust]

360 in 2042 when

[latent light]

Maybe

Intel 12th gen i7/i9 locked non-K series stock cooler

[prisma anvil]

idk how I feel about that

[latent light]

That cooler looks like this nuclear reactor

[quick locust]

lol

[prime jasper]

Going to use compressed air to clean my pc components, besides holding the fans in place, anything else I should keep in mind?

[quick locust]

just normal compressed air practices

[prime jasper]

Never used compressed air

😳

[quick locust]

not too long press, hold it upright

[prime jasper]

I got an electric one

So the upright bit shouldn’t matter

[quick locust]

ah

[prime jasper]

I think

[quick locust]

try prime95 and furmark

[main glacier]

lol noob

[lunar dawn]

check temps

also check psu and i guess also gpu driver/ram

and verify game files too

[midnight crypt]

i mean 2042 really pushes cpus hard compared to most games

[lunar dawn]

check temps and try ddu on drivers

[midnight crypt]

pretty sure MSFS only uses 4 cores and BF2042 uses 8

[lunar dawn]

also try prime 95 small ffts all cores

[midnight crypt]

don't need your specs to give suggestions

but you should've posted them from the start

[supple bane]

Msfs is very scp dependant

[quick locust]

Because the issue is rarely hardware itself other than thermal and psu

But you can list them.

This isn't a tech support channel and noone is obliged to help you, so set your expectations there

[near rune]

Uh 2042 is way more cpu intensive

And fps doesn't matter alot on a flight simulator

Like alot of sim pilots only get 50fps

With maxed out specs

And settings

[supple bane]

thats quite a lot for flight sim

[near rune]

Well around 50

[supple bane]

think its the only game i can comfortably play at 30 fps

[near rune]

Well cockpit moving might be janky but thats about it

[supple bane]

yeah looking around in the cockpit is the only time it needs decent fps

[vapid estuary]

Oh

[drowsy otter]

Any fixes for low fps and frame drops yet? I have a x570 with 5950x, msi 3090, 64gb ram, nvme drives, and 1600 watts on tap. This is the only game I have issues with. I have done the "official" fix as well as fixes from others with no change. My fps jumps from about 24 to 70 to 120 consistently with all setting on low and extras (like motion blur) turned off. This game is unplayable for me. Any suggestions?

[proud trellis]

i tried to install MSFS overnight as i have Xbox gamepass, before i went to bed i think i was installing 100 something GB, and then when i relaunched the menu i had to installed another 100GB so i just uninstalled it, i was so confused

[supple bane]

no when you install it from steam you just install the launcher

the launcher is like a gig? or something

then when you open the launcher then you download the game

[latent light]

2042 is optimized even worse than BF5

[proud trellis]

yeah i installed the launcher, and then when i went on the launcher there was a 100 something GB install which i did overnight, then when i woke up i had to install another 100 something GB's

not sure what really happened tbh

[latent light]

Playing it at all low settings just puts more strain on the CPU and the game is already CPU bound @drowsy otter

[supple bane]

going to low settings will always be the best fps. it just may be that going to medium or high will give the same fps but with better graphics obviously

[latent light]

2042 has lots of stutter and fps dips even on top-end hardware

[supple bane]

its never going to low will be less fps,

[drowsy otter]

yeah I can run on ultra with the same results. Oh well I guess we will have to wait till they optimize it. Thanks for the info, i was just wondering if we knew anything that would help

[latent light]

FYI, game loves fast memory with tight latencies

[midnight crypt]

ive seen people running the game way better than that with the same/similar specs

[latent light]

Hardware Unboxed could only get 2042 to run around 120 fps average at 1080p with the best Nvidia and Radeon GPUs, although that's at ultra settings

12900K is about 6% faster than 5950X

[drowsy otter]

I spike at around 146 on ultra and drop to about 24. runs around 70-120 which causes that lag during the fps dip

[drowsy otter]

seems consistent

well nice chatting with y'all time to go play some eft. @latent light I love your name

[latent light]

Ty

@drowsy otter what is your RAM configuration?

2x32GB or 4x16GB

[drowsy otter]

4x16 - corsair dominator platinum 3600s set and running around 3400

[quick locust]

Nice

[drowsy otter]

been saving for years to blow it all on the best pc i could - now it feels like a waste and way overkill

[supple bane]

buyers remorse

[drowsy otter]

yep

[quick locust]

overkill yes

but good anyway

[supple bane]

it happens with everything. just the more expensive it is the more you feel it

its a psychological thing, if it helps :P

[pale quartz]

you'll probably feel worse about this in under 2 years

[drowsy otter]

Lol...but so true

[storm osprey]

bang for buck ftw

[quick locust]

12700K cost same as my 8700K did

[supple bane]

i cannot wait to get my 12600k

[storm osprey]

i thankkfully got my 10700k for 297

[supple bane]

ryzen 5 2600 on a 2070 really starting to get rough

[quick locust]

533 usd

[supple bane]

yikes

[robust junco]

i5-6402P CPU, is it good ?

[quick locust]

normal prices

same as 8700K msrp

[supple bane]

i thought my country was expensive for hardware

[latent light]

8700K was $350 MSRP here on launch, 12700K is like $410

[quick locust]

for some reason the F cost more than normal

which makes no sense

but whatever

[prime jasper]

It gets less hot

[latent light]

That won't even boot the game

[quick locust]

not really

[prime jasper]

I made it up

😳

[quick locust]

11700K is only 380 usd

but i dont want rkl

[supple bane]

im guessing higher demand pushed the price up for the F

[robust junco]

i already buy the game and test it, i got 25 fps on 128 and on 64 conquest i got 50 fps

[supple bane]

i dont really understand why 99% of people would want K over KF tbh

troubleshooting, its about it

[latent light]

So worse than PS4 performance and graphics

[quick locust]

no reason to buy F if it cost more

[supple bane]

well if it costs more, no

but here its quite a bit cheaper

[quick locust]

litterally just a 12700K with gpu fused off

[robust junco]

yeah, on low

[latent light]

Oof

Yeah stick with 64 players

[quick locust]

why is the 7500 380 usd

[robust junco]

is ok whit 128 players, i mean is playable

*with

[latent light]

25 fps isn't acceptable even for a singleplayer game imo

My bare minimum is 60 fps

[quick locust]

One in the intel server plays with 11400 igpu

With flex mode ram

10 fps in hzd

Dunno how he has patience to play like that

[pale quartz]

once you use a calculator long enough to calculate a infinity set, you get used to subpar performance

[latent light]

[quick locust]

18 fps in gta V

6

[latent light]

GTX 1650 Super will only get 8 fps in 2042 at 1080p ultra

VRAM bottleneck :/

[quick locust]

And I heard they're doing a 4 GB 3050 variant

4 and 8

Yikes for the 4GB ones

[latent light]

Desktop is 8GB

Laptop 3050 has been out for months and is limited to 4GB

[prisma anvil]

[latent light]

Desktop 3050 is slower than desktop 2060

Comparable to 1660 Super afaik

[vapid estuary]

they make desktop 3050??

[latent light]

It's coming

[vapid estuary]

I must ask: wtf is the point

[latent light]

3050 will have 2048 CUDA, that's 1500 less than the 3060

[prisma anvil]

[vapid estuary]

jensen

[latent light]

Once you put an Ampere GPU on a tiny memory bus, performance falls down dramatically

Architecture is reliant on memory bandwidth

[quick locust]

i heard theres two

the 4GB has slightly less cores as well

but same die

a bit like 1060 3 GB vs 6 GB

[latent light]

3050Ti 8GB with 2304 CUDA?
3050 4GB with 2048 CUDA?

4GB VRAM will work ok in games with DLSS or FSR enabled tbh

[vapid estuary]

is it 128bits

[latent light]

Just won't be able to have ultra settings most of the time

[latent light]

Yes, up to 50% lower memory bandwidth than a 3060

[quick locust]

wonder what amd will do

5600xt had 4 GB

wonder if they will make a 6500

[latent light]

Rumors almost a year ago were pointing the 3050Ti being a cut-down 3060 with the same 192-bit bus and everything just half the VRAM and less cores

Not the case tho

[quick locust]

amd doesn't even have a 4 GB card in their lineup rn

[latent light]

5500XT came in 4/8GB options

[vapid estuary]

increase the price

[latent light]

6500XT will likely too

[quick locust]

they already did

to AIBs

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-increases-radeon-6000-gpu-board-pricing-aibs/

[vapid estuary]

still above 1200 for me 😔

[quick locust]

ye

same with PS5s

1350 usd

from retailers

prebuilts are out of stock too

1294 usd

[vapid estuary]

oh wow

[quick locust]

1065 usd

for 2080 super

[quick locust]

lol

[midnight crypt]

wow almost free

[orchid folio]

very cheap

free shipping as well???

[vapid estuary]

free shipping

what a steal

[nimble berry]

I have low CPU/GPU utilization in BF2142 which I think is causing lower than expected FPS for me. Anyone run into this and found a fix? Non-issue with other games.

[vapid estuary]

bf2142 is more than a decade old game so it probably wont utilize your processoor cores efficiently

[nimble berry]

damn well that sucks

[humble iris]

Are you getting like 500FPS? I usually go into NV Control Panel, and max out everything. This game still Epic as ever. I play regularly

The only thing that sucks is no "X-FI"

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield2042-2042-battlefield-battlefield-tornado-tornado-gif-21887629

[simple delta]

Hello! I have one question: how much fps will I have with a ryzen 7 2700x and an rtx 2060 16gb ram all updated and optimized? Will I be able to play at medium-high quality at + 60fps without problems? Is there someone who already has the game and can tell me how it goes with a rtx 2060?

[marsh gull]

depends on the game

but for example bf5 will fun at 80+ ultra 1080p

[noble bane]

x-fi. like.. creative?

[prime jasper]

Guys what do you think about the new case named nJoy Kona, Middle Tower?

[humble iris]

yep, X-FI sound cards.
I still have a vintage build setup for Battlefield 2142 game. it is epic, I always got accused of hacking due hearing where enemies were even when cloaked.
EVGA 780i / Q6600
2-Way SLI EVGA GTX285 FTW
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series PCI
Fatal1ty Headset as well.

[prisma anvil]

Vintage

[pulsar sentinel]

Reverse engineer

[stable mountain]

pretty sure being able to hear footsteps is just the normal game

[noble bane]

i still have some "vintage-ish" stuff lying around. i think i have two older ones, i7 920 and a q6600. those boards are just sitting inside of boxes at this point. - Several x-fi cards sitting in bins.

[stark gazelle]

Hey guys, I have a question. If I purchase Forza Horizon 5 on PC from steam, do I need Xbox live or game pass in order to play online? I just got a pc so I still don't know much.

[rigid vortex]

Huh

[prime jasper]

On PC, game pass is just a library of games.

On console there’s Xbox Game Pass (a library of games for the Xbox), Xbox Live Gold (online functionality + 3 free games a month) and there’s Xbox Game Pass Ultimate (which includes Xbox Game Pass, PC Game Pass and Xbox Live Gold).

On pc you do not need Xbox Live Gold to play online.

[delicate reef]

No, you don't need game pass

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-reveal-some-details-on-zen4-architecture-at-ces-2022

Ryzen 6000 will get announced and there will be a tease of Ryzen 7000

[delicate reef]

Gotta love the rat race for them 9 more frames

[noble bane]

rgb slim jims yoooo

[rigid vortex]

HUH

[near rune]

Game pass is a subscription that lets you play xboxs library of games

[cursive ermine]

I'm using gtx 1650 + i5 10400f and the gpu usage in battlefield 2042 hangs on around 70%, can it be caused by my cpu tempreature being 75-81 celsius during gameplay?

[supple bane]

if you had 100% gpu usage your performance would still be sub par

the 1650 simply isnt cut out for a game like 2042

but no, that cpu temperature is fine

[cursive ermine]

I've seen benchmarks with the same card and they mostly had 60+ fps in their videos

and their gpu usage was 100% aswell

[supple bane]

that does surprise me

[quick locust]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/561904/bios-updates-are-bricking-some-dell-and-alienware-pcs.html

https://www.neowin.net/news/a-gaming-mouse-with-its-own-1tb-ssd-that039s-what-adata039s-xpg-vault-is/

[supple bane]

yanno thats actually not as stupid as it sounds

if youre someone that travels a lot and games on a laptop, rather than needing to carry a mouse and an external game drive, you just carry a mouse

or if you are going to a lan party or friends house, take ya games and ya mouse.

[humble iris]

That's Awesome, I would totally build an Win7/XP gamer with it. I have an i7-920 as well, using it for a game server. DayZ, Arma3, TFE, etc.. I had 2 860 Evo's in RAID0 due to the SATA3=3GB/s ports, but trim doesn't work on it, so just decided to run the OS on 1 and files on the other. Also has a 1650 S for encoding. Thinking about upgrading it to 990x for really cheap. I have 8/9/200/700 series cards and even older radeon X300/9500 cards as well. just like to play around with older stuff.

[noble bane]

werd. my only older card is a r9 290. not exactly 100% legacy but also kind of a power hog.

[stark gazelle]

Hi, I have a question. So on the back of my pc there is this 0 rpm button which I accidentally pressed. I think it makes the gpu not turn when it’s under like 50 degrees. How can I deactivate this? Do I have to use the Armoury crate app, or go to the settings, GeForce experience etc.

[rotund sorrel]

It's ok

My gpu fans too doesn't work under 50

which is fine

[stark gazelle]

But is there no way to reset this?

[rotund sorrel]

It's for keeping fans for longer

[rotund sorrel]

I think you can change the curves of the fan by using app like MSI after burner

But Like I said if it doesn't work under 50

It's alright

[stark gazelle]

Ok, thank you very much!

[rotund sorrel]

np ^_^

[stark gazelle]

And one more question: So I can control the fan speed and all that now on Msi afterburner, but what fan speed would you guys recommend from 0-100%?

[quick locust]

just use default curve in most cases

[stark gazelle]

Alright, I’ll leave it on fully auto

[supple bane]

if its a decent cooler you should just leave it on

means your computer is quieter when it doesnt need to be loud

[supple bane]

its for keeping the computer quiet at idle, i dont think it would affect fan lifetime.

[rotund sorrel]

Yeah probably

[lunar dawn]

but why

[lusty cave]

CPU be idling at 51C. SFF builds are clean but kinda warm xD

[lunar dawn]

i mean a usb doesnt have enough bandwidth for some ssd

like the pcie gen 4 ones

[lunar dawn]

am i the only ones who likes giant cases

low temps and super quiet

[lusty cave]

Im switching to another SFF case soon, ordered it already xD

[lunar dawn]

i have a corsair 7000d airflow for example

with a 420mm rad

[lusty cave]

the phanteks evolv shift 2 air looks beautiful, but my cpu hits 85C at full load

[lunar dawn]

i have small pcs

[lusty cave]

not even overclocked

[lunar dawn]

so hard to open

and move stuff

[lusty cave]

thats why you build em, and never touch em again

[lunar dawn]

meh

you have to clean it one day

also change the thermal paste

[lusty cave]

yea in like 2 years xD

not every day

[noble bane]

meh. i aint changing no stinkin thermal paste.

[lusty cave]

Just use liquid metal and you're good for like 5 years

And by that time, you'll probably sell the entire pc and build a new 1

[supple bane]

probably the first time ive heard liquid metal being good for longevity

[lusty cave]

dont quote me on that btw xD

[supple bane]

yeah im not going to

[lunar dawn]

if you dont fuck it up yes

also limit metal can damage heatsink

[supple bane]

liquid metal should be one of those things where you put it on, do ya benchmarks then go back to regular paste

[lunar dawn]

and cpu die

[lusty cave]

My last pc had liquid metal, was good for 3 years before i decided to sell and build new pc

[quick locust]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/samsung-galaxy-book-odyssey-review/

[lunar dawn]

yeah daily driving it can be dangerous

also bcs of the damage that it can cause to cpu and heatsink

[quick locust]

depends if done well

[lusty cave]

it was either nikkel or copper it was good with, and bad with the other 1

[quick locust]

ps5 and asus advantage use gallium

[supple bane]

even if done well, it can eat through heatsinks and IHS'

its perfectly safe for short term use if applied properly. but i would recommend anyone leave it on

[lusty cave]

so you're saying i was mighty lucky to have it there for 3 years not touching it ever

[supple bane]

it depends what the heatsink is made out of i think

afaik only aluminium is corroded by liquid metal

[lusty cave]

it was used with NZXT Kraken X53

[supple bane]

and any decent cooler will be copper. unless if its a copper/aluminium alloy i guess

[lusty cave]

i think it was good with copper

like it doesn't eat it or go bad

wait no not x53

[quick locust]

mercury on cpu

jk

[lusty cave]

ah yes x52, not x53

now got the m22 with sff case

ngl, kinda sux

getting a case with more space for cpu cooler height, and gonna put a NH-D15S in there

[noble bane]

Meh. i straight up went 5+ years without changing thermal paste, no problem. :p

eventually swapped the machine's innards though. your thermal paste application will outlive the system's performance

[unique viper]

Guys i will buy i7 10700k or i7 11700k

Its confusing me

[silver kettle]

yo any good gpu under 700$

[unique viper]

I Ask for cpu

[silver kettle]

I ask for gpu

[unique viper]

Yo

[prime jasper]

Fight

[unique viper]

Chil

[prime jasper]

Chile

[unique viper]

Yes

You right

[prime jasper]

Dwayne

[unique viper]

Johnson

[prime jasper]

The Rock

😳

[unique viper]

Yeah

Thats my father

You know

[prime jasper]

I do know

[prisma anvil]

10700k 11700k, all perform around the same

Up to you really.

[unique viper]

Thank

S

[prime jasper]

12700k it is

[prisma anvil]

Yeah if u can get alderlake do it

Alderlake is OP

[unique viper]

Yeah i know

But my gpu cant run with alderlake i swear

[prisma anvil]

What?

Any gpu can run with alderlake

[unique viper]

Yo

Ok

[prisma anvil]

Where did u get my gpu can't run with alderlake

12600k or 12700k paired with a msi a pro and some 3600 cl16 ram

[unique viper]

Yo my bad

[prisma anvil]

Ur laughing for the next 5+ years

[unique viper]

Yeah

I will buy corsair ram 3200 mhz cl16

I7-12700k

[prisma anvil]

Try to get 3600 cl16

3200 cl16 is abit slow

[unique viper]

I'll try

[prime jasper]

I got 3200 cl16 and it seems fine

[unique viper]

I think same

[prisma anvil]

It's fine but 2042 scale with ram hard

[unique viper]

Ok

I believe you

What do you think about corsair 4000d airflow

I will buy it for my setup

[prisma anvil]

I have it

[unique viper]

So i ask

[prisma anvil]

[unique viper]

Yo

Nice

[prisma anvil]

U will need prob a couple more fans tho

[prime jasper]

Just avoid RGB

[unique viper]

2 is not enough for a short period of time or you would have to buy it immediately

[prisma anvil]

2 is enough

Add 2 more if possible if u have a super power hungry gpu

Or 1 more if ur front mounting aio

[unique viper]

you know i don't have enough money to buy alderlake and fans

xd

[prime jasper]

I sometimes see people mount their AIO in the front as their only intake

Seems kind of dumb

[prisma anvil]

Why?

[prime jasper]

Doesn’t that just throw the hot air from the cpu heat at the gpu

[prisma anvil]

Yes.

[prime jasper]

And the cpu

Just seems inefficient

[prisma anvil]

But it's not much.

[prime jasper]

And silly

Goofy if you will

[prisma anvil]

Honestly depends.

[unique viper]

I would not like to focus on aio or somerhing like this and I prefer to invest in a processor or gpu now

[prisma anvil]

I use top exhaust and I think front mount is better

Gpu dump all the heat to the aio radiator

That's not great.

[unique viper]

@prisma anvil can you send me photo of your PC on pv

[prisma anvil]

My pc is a gaint meme

It's rgb vomit

[unique viper]

Let me swe

See

[prisma anvil]

If ur gpu doesn't draw much power ur fine.

But when the gpu draws 450W

[supple bane]

works the other way. if you have it top mount the gpu feeds it with hot air

you should mount it based on what needs more cooling i guess.

[prime jasper]

I suppose

[prisma anvil]

Front mount jack up the ram temp as well.

Idk why lol

[supple bane]

dont think thats really a concern for most 90% of sticks

[prisma anvil]

True

[supple bane]

unless its like 4000mhz+ i guess

or like 16gb sticks

[prisma anvil]

Frustrating for me to oc my friends ram

Dimm reach almost 60c

[supple bane]

idek how you would look at ram temps

[prisma anvil]

And he doesn't have micron rev e which is not that temp sensitive

Hwinfo64

Or he has corsair ram so icue

But hwinfo64 is goat

[supple bane]

i guess my ram doesnt have temp sensors

[prisma anvil]

It should have

[supple bane]

i use hwinfo so much, i would have noticed ram temperatures by now

[prisma anvil]

It should be labeled as dimm

[supple bane]

notin

there are some unlabelled temperature sensors under my motherboard which could be it,

temperature 2 and system 2 right at the bottom

[prisma anvil]

Try scroll down more

[supple bane]

below that is only gpu and storage

[prisma anvil]

Oh.

[latent light]

Afaik AMD Rembrandt launches in mid/late January while Zen 3D desktop launches in early February with X670 chipset

[prisma anvil]

2400 cl13

Wow

[supple bane]

yeah

tis shlow

[prisma anvil]

Never seen this speed before

[supple bane]

cl13 is pretty cool, but yeah on ryzen its not great

[prisma anvil]

Usually I see 2133 and 2666

[supple bane]

its not native 2400

its oc. cl13 is native tho with xmp

[prisma anvil]

Yeah I can tell

[supple bane]

i could probably go tighter, never tried

[prisma anvil]

Very interesting ram

[supple bane]

dont think ive ever heard of cl12

it can also do 2666, but i bluescreened once and determined that was the cause and never went back to it

2666 at cl13 eint bad i guess

[prisma anvil]

I think if u are on amd b550 etc get zen3d or whatever. If u are building brand new get z690

[supple bane]

i will be upgrading to alderlake soon

[prisma anvil]

Cause z690 can support raptor lake

Am4 is end of life.

I think they might let zen3d run in b450

Which is awesome.

All zen2 people with zen3d compatible mobo should upgrade

[supple bane]

its awesome you can run a 5950x on b450 with a bios update

[prisma anvil]

Yeah

[supple bane]

i wouldnt recommend it but you can :P

probably end up with some liquid vrms by the end of it.

[prisma anvil]

Nah stock 5950x draws no power

[supple bane]

yeah i guess

im used to intels ways where anything above mid range is a furnace

[prisma anvil]

I mean u can just enforce pl1 125w

[supple bane]

especially (arguably) hedt like the 5950x, usually like 150w plus for intel

[prisma anvil]

Will be slow but hey not a furnace

Get alderlake and enforce pl1

Thing is tho alderlake is more power efficient than zen3

But intel unlocked the pl2 so it draws up to 242W

[supple bane]

is that 12900k?

[prisma anvil]

I ain't complaining cause most motherboard vendor cheats

Intel said f it unlocked pl2 for all

Yeah 12900k

[lunar dawn]

yes and no, probably vrms would die if you try to overclock

[humble iris]

just got a Logitech G815 keyboard. what a huge difference from a Microsoft ergo keyboard feels so weird but, kind of like a new girlfriend.

[supple bane]

"Kind of like a new girlfriend"

Brilliant

[proud trellis]

lol

[latent light]

Stock 5950X draws less than a stock 2700X and 1800X iirc

[prisma anvil]

Yeah 105W

So like nothing.

[vapid estuary]

the efficiency of zen3 💪🏼

[pale quartz]

it isn't to do with the efficiency of Zen 3 per say, more that the power envelope of the 5950x at stock settings will enforce a very conservative max all clock turbo whereas the 2700/1800 at default will engage much higher clocks at default for all it's cores

[vapid estuary]

But it packs way more power at similar wattage

[pale quartz]

it does not - as I said, these are per core settings

the 5950x's biggest advantage is not caring about power draw which is why once you unlock the PL you will see some remarkable AC clock speeds as well as massive power draw

[prisma anvil]

Efficiency of zen3 is incredible tho. It curbstomps 11th and 10th gen, only losing slightly to 12th gen.

Tsmc 7nm.

[ashen ether]

Hello I have a laptop that has only 4gb ram 2133mhz ddr4. I am at a mall right now and i've been searching for 2133 8gb to atleast boost the performance. Can I put 2666 ram in here despite this laptop only supports 2133?
It's a lenovo ideapad 320 i3 6006u

[vapid estuary]

Probably not unless you have the settings for changing ram module speed on the bios

[humble iris]

It should default to 2133 should it not? Because it should only run at 2666 with XMP enabled I would think. I don't do much with laptops so I'm not certain.

Laptop ram is also not the same as desktop, just throwing that out there.

[marsh gull]

yes you can but it will only run at 2133

but yes it will work if you were wondering

[humble iris]

👍 +

[quick locust]

2666 is still jedec

You don't need xmp for 2666

[humble iris]

So this G815 is pretty kick @$$. I just wish the RGB Settings carried over to Onboard Memory. other then that it's great. I open BF2042 and my keyboard does kool $tuff

[marsh gull]

it prob doesnt have xmp anyways

[marsh gull]

lol same with razer syapse and apex for me

[quick locust]

Neither does my laptop, but I run 2666.

[humble iris]

it won't default to 2666 though

[marsh gull]

thats cool

[marsh gull]

when theres a gunshot it goes epilepsy mode

[humble iris]

All boards run at 2133, anything over is an overclock

[humble iris]

yup same, it is really awesome\

the ram does not run at advertised speeds, it is a rating, the board runs it at rated speeds

[quick locust]

2666 is not an overclock

[humble iris]

So either XMP or Manually

yes it is, as far as the motherboard is concerned

I have never had DDR4 memory run over 2133 unless it was set in BIOS/UEFI

[quick locust]

I am rn

[humble iris]

by default? I doubt it

it had to be setup in BIOS

[quick locust]

Nope

[humble iris]

what board?

[quick locust]

No option to on acer bios

It's a laptop

[humble iris]

yeah it was programmed to run that speed

[quick locust]

No lol, I installed that kit

[humble iris]

then there is an AUTO function to detect it

I've installed hundreds of ram kits over 22 years and never did they run above default unless I told it too

[quick locust]

It runs at 2666 jedec timings

[humble iris]

being yours is a manufactured PC it is either already set to run at 2666, has an auto detect, or has been set in BIOS

not saying you had to

[marsh gull]

haha yes

[humble iris]

your is factory overclocked basically

[quick locust]

It's not an OC

Urgh got cat hair on my ram

Pretty slow anyway but don't really need more on this laptop

[humble iris]

okay, It's not overclocked it's just clocked higher then the default speeds. agreed?

[stark gazelle]

Hey guys, I have another question. So if I buy one forza horizon 5 copy on one steam account, is it possible to have two progresses? Meaning can two people play it with their own progress or is it strictly only one progress for one person?

[midnight crypt]

it uses your Microsoft account so yes you can switch between accounts and have their own progress

[lunar dawn]

you can, rn i have kingston fury impact cl15 2666mhz on my laptop

depends on the ram tbh

usually i always get 2666mhz, even on my desktop thats 4600mhz cl19

[latent light]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/fsr-adopt-ten-times-faster-nvidia-dlss

FSR is a simple implementation

[atomic jackal]

can i plug an extension cord to a ups?

my ups doesn't have enough plugs and I want to charge my phone

[near rune]

Yeah you should be able to

If its something small like charging a phone

[midnight crypt]

duh they're way different in implementation

[prime jasper]

yo any nerds in here

So I finally got this be quiet! 12 pin cable

For my 3080

But it’s literally just 1 cable with 1 end on both sides, which should only supply up to 300w, 3080 is rated for 320

so I just not use this cable then, seems kind of dumb

Feel like I’ll just have to stick with this adapter Nvidia gave me

[latent light]

Yeah use an 12-pin adapter that connects to at least two 8-pin PCIe power connectors

[prime jasper]

Yeah idk where to find one of those, sleeved, that won’t fry my PSU

This cable I got isn’t even sleeved so it’s genuinely an aesthetic downgrade over this adapter Nvidia gave me

[latent light]

It's intended for a FE 3070 I think

Could probably contact them for an adapter for 3080 instead

[prime jasper]

I did, they asked me to verify that I owned a 3080

Which confuses me because this cable would actually be fine for a 3070

So yeah not sure what they’re on

[latent light]

3070 is rated 220W

Not too terribly high wattage considering I own a GTX 770 with 230W TDP

Thing is, that card stays under 230 watts as long as I had it, a 3070 definitely goes over its watt rating and so does a 3080

[atomic jackal]

yeah

[atomic jackal]

why were old cards such power hogs

[latent light]

Very old GPUs (before 2008) were generally low power and used no more than a 6-pin plug

[quick locust]

Yeah

Old cards usually weren't much power

Inefficient but not much consumption

Even gtx 480 was 250W

A card known to run so hot

GTX 8800 was 155W

[dry pike]

The heat when my GFX uses 350W is crazy. That they just want to make hotter and hotter cards to beat each other is stupid at this point.

[quick locust]

The consumption is nearly equal to heat output to the room

350W room heater

[quick locust]

Bigger and bigger die with more transistors

[prisma anvil]

Hold my 1000w galax bios flashed 3080ti that can draw up to 540w

[quick locust]

I did that with my 2080 ti

Hit 542W

My air cooler can't hold it though at all

So I went back

[prisma anvil]

Same

Same. I was trying to beat a guy in south africa in timespy

[quick locust]

Lol

I think normal gainward vbios is 330W

[prisma anvil]

Evga is 450w

3090 evga has 500w bios

[pale quartz]

laptops specifically do not have the same desktop control that main BIOS's do, their kits are stripped down for size accomodations

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6500xt-and-rx-6400-to-be-the-first-6nm-graphics-cards

6nm entry level RDNA2

[solar kestrel]

so i have a question regarding internet speeds, so i am hooked up to a decent router via ethernet and i only get 4mb download speeds

while at a different house i was hooked up to a router that has similar stats (im not sure what to call it) and i get 30mbs download speeds easy

could this be an issue with my motem because i know for a fact i have a decent internet plan

[quick locust]

If you're hooking up with ethernet, the specs don't matter as much

What is your internet plan?

Hm wonder if thrustmaster hotas PS4 works on pc

Does say pc compatible but not sure if there's any issues

Besides having some PS4 buttons

And logo

[pale quartz]

your router doesnt matter

your ISP downstream rate is whats important which is why youre only at 4mb/s

[pale quartz]

it shouldnt have any issue on steam

other launchers, unknown

[quick locust]

Hm I'll try it

[humble iris]

so you install the ram, and automatically runs at that speed?

[lunar dawn]

depends on the kit and motherboard i guess

[humble iris]

thats the point I was trying to make, the ram does not just overclock itself.

[lunar dawn]

i mean ... some kits do run already at 2666mhz by default

or 3200mhz if the bios supports it

[humble iris]

the ram doesnt run at all the board does it

[lunar dawn]

like the kingston fury impact i used in my laptop

it simply default 2666mhz at cl15

[humble iris]

exactly the bios has to be setup, you cant just install 3200MHZ ram and expect it to just run 3200MHZ its going to run at the bios default, or whatever the user has set it to.

the ram itself does not control the speed, the motherboard does

[lunar dawn]

i mean some ram kits have "auto oc" features like the one i bought and try to run at max speed

[humble iris]

no it does not

[lunar dawn]

it does

[humble iris]

only the motherboard can control memory speeds

it has a profile called XMP

[lunar dawn]

i mean yeah i was trying to explain you that

that its basically an auto oc since its not manual

[humble iris]

well the debate was that 2666mhz is not overclocked, I say anything over 2133 is considered overclocked no matter what the rating is, the ram will default to 2133 even if it's rated at 2666. You MUST go into BIOS and set it to run 2666. This dude said he just installed a kit it automatically runs at 2666, So is there something new I don't know about, you no longer have to set it up in bios like I have for the past 20 something years?

[lunar dawn]

dude i installed a kit and it runs at 2666mhz by default ... explain that then

[humble iris]

The last kit I installed a 3200MHZ kit on X540 had to be setup in BIOS

[lunar dawn]

i mean i installed it in a laptop so no xmp

[humble iris]

the bios was already set up for the kit

[lunar dawn]

its a laptop

no xmp

[humble iris]

or it auto detected it

[humble iris]

what was the previous kit running at?

[lunar dawn]

2400mhz iirc

[humble iris]

and you just installed the ram, and automatically ran at 2666?

you did not go into bios?

[lunar dawn]

want a screenshot?

[humble iris]

I'm not saying your ram isnt running at 2666 I believe that no problem, what i'm saying is , It did not just overclock itself

[lunar dawn]

well laptops dont have xmp in the bios

usually the bios is locked

[humble iris]

either You set it up in bios, or software in windows, or the board automatically detected it.

[lunar dawn]

you cant change ram speed in windows

[humble iris]

yes you can

[lunar dawn]

no?

[humble iris]

I did this many years ago with Ntune

software in windows can control the uefi

may just need to be reststarted

it will make the changes on restart

but that's not the point

http://pic.downcc.com/upload/2017-3/201738144629108200.jpg

[lunar dawn]

probably doesnt work on a locked bios

[humble iris]

no it wont for sure

and its old, but I'm just saying your BIOS is auto detecting the ram's profile and setting it up accordingly, if you are not changing a setting manually.

I got deleted

how come we can't share images here

[quick locust]

No, it's auto set in laptops as Deco said

On desktop you set it

Same with my 2666 kit

It'll auto set to fastest of these 3 in a laptop

https://wccftech.com/asus-rog-maximus-z690-hero-motherboards-might-have-a-serious-defect-several-reports-of-boards-burning-up/amp/

[humble iris]

is this a newer laptop, cause I have never had a laptop do it automatically, I have an HP 15 10th gen, not a gaming laptop, I upgraded and it just defaulted the ram

[quick locust]

2019 laptop

Not gaming

And third party kit that I installed

There isn't even memory or xmp in bios

[quick locust]

You need regular or booster for that

[humble iris]

so here it is. https://youtu.be/pfcH1DhHEiY

requires a compatible bios

"HX426S15IB2K2/16 is so-called HyperX Impact memory - this is designed to enable the BIOS to overclock the memory automatically to the highest possible speed. For the HX426S15IB2K2/16, this is 2666 MHz." = HyperX

[quick locust]

Again automatically

Since it's sodimm

[humble iris]

the bios does, not the memory

[quick locust]

No option in bios to do it

Nothing to do manually

[humble iris]

the bios does it automatically based on a profie

[quick locust]

Yes as I've said all along

[humble iris]

really? maybe I misunderstood

[quick locust]

No reason to go to bios to change anything

It'll run above 2133 anyway

[humble iris]

the ram wont, the bios will

[quick locust]

The ram will because of bios

But yeah as I said all along

Bios does not need to be set up for this

[humble iris]

alright I think it's just a misunderstaning. The bios overclocks the memory. the memory is rated and has a profile.

the memory does not overclock itself

[prisma anvil]

the memory does not OC itself, but they can do higher than 2133 without OC

[humble iris]

the bios sets the memory clock either automatically or manually

[humble iris]

yes

[prisma anvil]

there are alot of JEDEC spec ram speed and timings

[quick locust]

There's no need to set up bios manually

And 2666 has jedec specs

As I showed with mine

It picks one

[humble iris]

I know. Your bios is automatically setting the ram speeds

[quick locust]

Yes so no need to set it up

[humble iris]

correct, I'm not arguing that

[prisma anvil]

yep 2666 cl19

3200 cl22 etc

[humble iris]

"You" don't need to set it up, but your BIOS does

[prisma anvil]

cl22

[quick locust]

.

[humble iris]

Yep, the bios automatically sets it up

it has to be setup, the ram cannot control it's own speeds

[quick locust]

.

[prisma anvil]

so if a ram has jedec spec of 3200 cl22 then it will run jedec 3200 cl22

[quick locust]

Yes

[prisma anvil]

so for Tak's case his xmp is jedec

[humble iris]

if the profile exists and the bios supports it

[prisma anvil]

LOL

[quick locust]

Yeah I dunno why they bothered with a xmp profile

[prisma anvil]

of couse

[quick locust]

Tertiary maybe?

[prisma anvil]

they trying to meme

u think they bother with tertiary?

[quick locust]

No other reason to

:P

[prisma anvil]

most dont bother with secondary

[quick locust]

My A8-6310 laptop only had single channel

Man that laptop was slow

[prisma anvil]

I saw someone running 3200 cl22 here

I was like yooo thats mad

peak jedec

[quick locust]

My previous kit was horrible

2400 cl 18 or something

[prisma anvil]

all jedec is trash

ram might have multiple jedec to default to as well

pretty sure jedec 3200 cl22 has a jedec of 2133 and 2666

[quick locust]

Some has multiple yeah

[lunar dawn]

my ram jedec is 2666mhz cl 15 1.2 volt, imo thats pretty good

max supported ram speed is 2666mhz

[prisma anvil]

There is no 2666 cl15 jedec. That's xmp

[lunar dawn]

https://imgur.com/enfWoij

[prisma anvil]

Oh so they have multiple xmp to match the mobo ram support speed. Smart

[latent light]

3600 CL14 fanboys vs 2133 CL18 enjoyers

[coarse nimbus]

bigger the number, better the ram

[prisma anvil]

6000 CL99

🤌

[lunar dawn]

i mean idk if those are xmp

thats listed as default then there s a single xmp profile thats the same as the 2666mhz one

the ram i was checking https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF426S15IB1K2_32.pdf

[vapid estuary]

300fps boost

[prisma anvil]

There is a chart of the jedec ram spec.

[frank sigil]

if my ram was running at 2666 before i installed my new kit but now it is at 2133, why is that because clearly rhe motherboard was set to 2666 previously?

[humble iris]

it might have reset, and the new profile needs to be applied

[frank sigil]

how do i apply it? Also the new kit said 3600 as well so im a little confused.

[prisma anvil]

Bios, enable xmp

[frank sigil]

thank you

[humble iris]

sorry I was away, did you figure it out?

[frank sigil]

Yes

[prisma anvil]

Can't wait to to ram OC some bdie on alderlake next month.

[humble iris]

I can't wait for my 6950X to get here from China

[atomic jackal]

guys

my ups powers up my modem but theres no internet

why is this happening

its very weird

[pale quartz]

say what now

[humble iris]

I ordered a new blemished CPU for a fraction of price. hoping it works

[lofty light]

I bought a 6950X for my server too

The old Intel one

[pale quartz]

watch it be a fake pin layout

[lofty light]

Used to be $3k here on launch, is now going for like $400 on eBay

[humble iris]

yea x99

[lofty light]

Works a treat

[humble iris]

I hope not

[atomic jackal]

blemished? why was it blemished

[lofty light]

What board you got with it?

[pale quartz]

you can actually get TR parts insanely cheap here

[lofty light]

Only reason I stayed X99 was my sabertooth board

[pale quartz]

I've seen the 1920x go for £120

[atomic jackal]

so its a server cpu

[lofty light]

It's not really, it's their extreme line

[humble iris]

no idea

[lofty light]

Doesn't have the server perks but does have the higher core count and unlocked overclocking

[humble iris]

X99 FTW had it for 7 years

[atomic jackal]

why do you guys think theres no internet going into the modem

[humble iris]

not really a practical upgrade yet

[atomic jackal]

its on ups power

everything works fine with the ups except the fact that modem doesnt get internet its only getting power

[lofty light]

Ah fair enough dude

[humble iris]

if you are on backup power, and power is out, more then likely the internet line went out with the electric line

[atomic jackal]

so unprofessional

yeah thats what i thought

[humble iris]

it has happened to me, now I use my Cell Phone tethered to my gaming rig

on power loss

[prisma raven]

i need help, I installed Battlefield 1 today but it doesnt start, i get a error report instantly

[humble iris]

I'm waiting for Intel HEDT Sapphire Rapids X maybe

[atomic jackal]

i dont have a wifi router on my pc sadly

[humble iris]

I went from X58 to X99 to ??

[atomic jackal]

its only cable

[humble iris]

use the USB cord to PC it turns the PC to Hotspot cell data

Tether Cellphone to PC w/ USB Cable, enable shared internet

[atomic jackal]

do you mean like those usb wifi routers

[humble iris]

no I mean like a cell phone

[atomic jackal]

or straight out plugging phone to pc

via usb

[humble iris]

yes

[atomic jackal]

i have 20gb of mobile data a month

[humble iris]

the phone acts a wireless internet, uses cellular data

[atomic jackal]

idk how much a pc will use though

probably a lot

for example

how much will battlefield use

[humble iris]

Start >> Settings >> Network Internet >> Data Usage

[atomic jackal]

i know but i want to know it before that amount is spent

[humble iris]

Reset and keep an eye on it, it's not as bad as you might think

you may also enter a limit there

disable any updates and keep programs and BG programs closed

[atomic jackal]

ah yeah theres a setting to keep it limited right

can i just use the charging cable from my charger?

will it work

[humble iris]

yeah, but you should also be able to set something on cellphone, and online with cell provider maybe.

[atomic jackal]

wym?

[humble iris]

it should

I can do things online at Att.com with my cell service 4 lines and I can turn off peopels data

[atomic jackal]

yeah thats already possible on the phone

you can see who is connected

[humble iris]

No just the lines I have

Wife, kids etc..

[azure plinth]

Hey, I have been trying to connect my PS4 controller through pc (steam and origin) I have watched and search almost everything and nothing has worked please help

[midnight crypt]

this aint tech support

[toxic wigeon]

Stupid random thing, How much better is the 5600x over the 10900k?

I'm not looking to get intel but

[supple bane]

The 5600x isnt better than the 10900k

[toxic wigeon]

Oh! Right

[supple bane]

The 5800x and 5900x are more to compete with the 10900k

[toxic wigeon]

Ye

[supple bane]

.

Might be helpful

[latent light]

Sapphire Rapids is gonna be over $10,000

More expensive than current Xeons and Threadripper at least

Having on-board HBM3 is very expensive

[pale quartz]

its not but if you are wanting something that is get the 12600k

[toxic wigeon]

Got it!

[latent light]

Wouldn't jump on the trigger so soon, Ryzen 6000 series announcement is in 10 days @toxic wigeon

[toxic wigeon]

Oh lol

I'll see how much more the 6600x will cost overall

with the new motherboard

[toxic wigeon]

Have they stated what kind of motherboard they'll be using for the new cards? Or will this be announced then and there.

[latent light]

X670 motherboards afaik

[toxic wigeon]

Is that the same motherboard the new intel cards use

[latent light]

Intel 12th gen uses LGA1700 socket

Ryzen 6000 still uses AM4 socket

[toxic wigeon]

So in a sense it'll be backwards compatible

[latent light]

Yeah but older AM4 motherboards like X370 and maybe even X470 won't support Ryzen 6000

[toxic wigeon]

Ye

[latent light]

Older motherboards could support it if they dropped support of the first couple generations of Ryzen

[toxic wigeon]

OH

So maybe the b550 could still use a 6600x basically?

Or is that dumb and it's strictly for the x670

[latent light]

I see why not B550 should support it with BIOS update

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

Just the x670 would work best with the new card

[latent light]

B650 boards are coming too but uncertain if it will launch with X670