Worse, they’re French
#technology
balmy hill
No I don't I live in a small island in the middle of the atlantic ocean
vapid estuary
8k60fps
prime jasper
with 1650 super please thank you
pale quartz
they're as rare as cards nowadays
thorny bridge
I'm am for me Canada
midnight crypt
I'm am for me Canada
you need to learn english if youre in canada
prime jasper
they're as rare as cards nowadays
Lian Li is awful at actually launching products
thorny bridge
Speaking English good
pale quartz
Lian Li is awful at actually launching products
agreed
prime jasper
This case was supposed to drop in September
pale quartz
they have excellent products but terrible launches
prime jasper
3 month delay, even though they pretended it only got delayed 1 month
pale quartz
always confounds me
prime jasper
Surprised the new evo is actually somewhat available
vapid estuary
you need to learn english if youre in canada
im in canada but i dont speak english
prime jasper
they have excellent products but terrible launches
This Phanteks case lasted me about a year but I’m over it
rotund sorrel
If want some help with your issue you might find solutions here : https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/bd-p/battlefield-2042-technical-issues-en
thorny bridge
I'm am sorry
prime jasper
Design is a bit meh now but also just quality control issues
The RGB is busted already
thorny bridge
prime jasper
It just flickers, and everything has a yellow hue now
Airflow is solid though but yeah
pale quartz
surprising tbh especially from phanteks
rotund sorrel
Although DICE acknowledged that they're working on CPU optimization so you might wanna wait for updates 👍
pale quartz
normally have decent QA
prime jasper
Yeah I mean besides that the case has been fine
There’s a slight gap between the front panel and the actual case
Which is kind of annoying, but only on one side
thorny bridge
Thanks your very much check
thorny bridge
Why with new update
delicate kindle
why does my PC not run super well? I have a high end pc (gtx 1070, i7 7700, 16gb ram) and what will happen is with games, it will lag and then stop lagging and then lag again, usually on 5-10 second intervals
prime jasper
Which game lol
delicate kindle
all of them
prime jasper
That is not a high end pc btw
delicate kindle
at least most
prime jasper
Like, youre a couple years behind now, not to be rude
delicate kindle
That is not a high end pc btw
It was 4 years ago when I got it
vapid estuary
why does my PC not run super well? I have a high end pc (gtx 1070, i7 7700, 16gb...
its not high end
prime jasper
the CPU isn’t great
pale quartz
it's still not a high end pc
pale quartz
more or less beginner level by today's metrics
prime jasper
Some are more intensive than others
vapid estuary
if you have games installed on ur hdd it might cause some stuttering once in a while also if you have only one 16gb stick or 2 of 8gb stick thats not in proper seats
delicate kindle
like even modern cod games on high graphics like MW 2019 run pretty much perfectly
pale quartz
meh only so much you can do with dated hardware
prime jasper
well optimized
pale quartz
upgrade your specs solve your problem
delicate kindle
if you have games installed on ur hdd it might cause some stuttering once in a w...
well I do have all my games on an HDD but that's cuz my ssd has my OS on it and it's only 100gb and it's almost full lol
prime jasper
should never have your Ssd be almost full I think
Like keep at least 30% free, could be wrong
Also you will def run into streaming issues with games like BF, if it’s an older HDD especially
pale quartz
you're right
prime jasper
that combined with the very outdated CPU
pale quartz
SSD NAND suffers absolutely terribly especially on QLC once you get past the SLC buffer
and this drive is tiny so it won't be that great to begin with
delicate kindle
SSD NAND suffers absolutely terribly especially on QLC once you get past the SLC...
what language is that
delicate kindle
I'm not a nerd
prime jasper
The specs of your SSD
stoic snow
Updated most of the pc last month and man… so good
prime jasper
Like, the components inside it
pale quartz
yeah we pretty much can't help you your hardware is woefully out of date
only so much you can expect
especially for games like 2042
delicate kindle
I mean it only started doing this like a year ago
prime jasper
I'm not a nerd
How full is the bar of like, usage on your ssd
90%?
In file explorer, drives
pale quartz
yeah, because a lot of games update and change with time
hard drives are themselves terrible you should not be using games for them
stoic snow
If I can run my 1070ti on bf and compete, the other pc parts made the difference
prime jasper
Very cpu intensive game
vapid estuary
get at least smth like a sata ssd as thats usually cheaper than nvme m2 also newer gpus if you can
pale quartz
even if you played an old game like battlefield 4 from that hard drive your experience would still be terrible
vapid estuary
even if you played an old game like battlefield 4 from that hard drive your expe...
it takes forever to load
delicate kindle
How full is the bar of like, usage on your ssd
90% pretty much. But there aren't any files on it bigger than 700mb and most of those larger ones are windows files
prime jasper
yeah that’s not good
pale quartz
meh yeah I mean
stoic snow
Two nvme drives, one for windows and one for games. Load times are mega fast
prime jasper
But it’s insignificant compared to your main issue
pale quartz
be realistic here it's a hardware limitation issue and there's nothing we can do to change that
delicate kindle
An issue with some games is my SSD will fill up when I play them for some reason
pale quartz
Two nvme drives, one for windows and one for games. Load times are mega fast
big con to this
vapid estuary
An issue with some games is my SSD will fill up when I play them for some reason
thats cache probably
pale quartz
loading in 2 NVMes puts x4 x4 on the PCIe lane meaning you cannot get x16 on the first slot
which will crush your GPU performance in high bandwidth games
delicate kindle
loading in 2 NVMes puts x4 x4 on the PCIe lane meaning you cannot get x16 on the...
my guy I don't know this tech language
pale quartz
ok?
prime jasper
which will crush your GPU performance in high bandwidth games
I haven’t had that issue
delicate kindle
I'll try to get a new pc
prime jasper
I’ve got a 500gb ssd for windows, 1tb for games
prime jasper
I'll try to get a new pc
bad timing
vapid estuary
shouldve got it before rtx 30 launch 😔
pale quartz
games like hitman are highly susceptible to this
prime jasper
shouldve got it before rtx 30 launch 😔
Got extremely lucky with my gpu
vapid estuary
ive been checking newegg almost every day since september last year but i didnt see one in stock not a single time
all scalper prices or out of stock
delicate kindle
also it's not a tower pc it's a laptop so maybe that could be a factor
overheating and stuff
but idk
prime jasper
Open it up
pale quartz
well if that's the case don't be surprised at your performance
prime jasper
Clean the fans maybe
pale quartz
pun intended
prime jasper
If you know what you’re doing anyway
pale quartz
laptop hardware is artificially limited for thermal reasons
they are not desktop equivalents
delicate kindle
should I get a prebuilt or build one myself
pale quartz
either works, whichever you prefer
vapid estuary
prebuilt cuz building one urself is impossible these days
stoic snow
@pale quartz the cpu has 24 lanes so should be fine
delicate kindle
what brand
pale quartz
<@162568099839606784> the cpu has 24 lanes so should be fine
it's not only the first NVMe slot is direct to the CPU
vapid estuary
any non-oem brands so you can upgrade later
pale quartz
relaning doesn't exist on chipset platforms
which is why your first slot is forced to x8
delicate kindle
and I would prefer under $2500
but maybe that's too little for good performance these days
vapid estuary
i heard nzxt bld and redux are good
pale quartz
if you want full bandwidth with 2 NVMes you require TR or greater
stoic snow
Bit above my knowledge but should be fine for what I have
delicate kindle
should I choose windows 11 or 10?
idk if 11 is as good for gaming
cuz it's so new
prime jasper
Negligible
thorny bridge
Windows 10
vapid estuary
should I choose windows 11 or 10?
windows 10
thorny bridge
Good gaming system
wet notch
windows 11 is very new, so even if it might be pretty good, there is a risk to getting it right now
pale quartz
idk if 11 is as good for gaming
statistically windows 11 has better performance than 10
the delta is small, around 2-4%, but it's there
prime jasper
I’m on 11, besides some tiny bugs, no issues, good performance
and I prefer the look but that’s all subjective
wet notch
my friend uses 11 and likes it too, i never tried it tho
vapid estuary
i personally hated 11 cuz it removed all the good features in windows 10 like right clicking or dragging files through taskbar and i also hate the look of it
quick locust
loading in 2 NVMes puts x4 x4 on the PCIe lane meaning you cannot get x16 on the...
you can, since first m.2 is cpu lanes and second is chipset. At least on most boards
and the first x16 is cpu as well
(you sometimes lose sata with second m.2 though, since its on chipset)
pale quartz
you can, since first m.2 is cpu lanes and second is chipset. At least on most bo...
I am meaning specifically, without locking out SATA ports
quick locust
ah
pale quartz
it definitely is possible but once people figure out they can only use like 2 ports rather than 6 they normally think twice
pale quartz
quick locust
"high speed"
I think Z690 can have 3 m.2 without disabling sata ports? idk
My Z390 can't though
pale quartz
"high speed"
this is absolutely hilarious
the SATA interface always had these scam marketing tactics and never including that transfers are synchronous in nature
"yeah that's right you can get up to 6Gb/s transfers!! oh but, just make sure you have got absolutely 0 rates going on the other spectrum, or you'll be waiting a hell of a while for anything to finish"
pale quartz
I've been toying with setting up RAID on NVMe, undecided yet
quick locust
I could move one HDD to my NAS but
Don't currently have anything big enough to move the data to while it formats
8 TB drive
quick locust
only things i dont like about m.2 is no hotswap and not great for thermal designs
which E1 is better in
pale quartz
eh to be expected once you move entire protocols to such a miniature design, honestly it's kind of stunning that it was possible to do to begin with
pale quartz
i still remember the days of attempting to RAID 0 like 4 hard drives just to break 900mbps, how times have changed
quick locust
lol
I should do RAID 1 on my NAS but
Only using a single drive rn
not great for data recovery
pale quartz
I've got my Evo 860's in RAID 0, the rates are actually very impressive with a high cache buffer
think 2.8gbps sustained was my max bottleneck
pale quartz
still wouldn't reach the rates of 1 of my 860's 
pale quartz
I expect a 99% chance of data corruption aswell to occur on that
pale quartz
come again?
quick locust
Or wifi for that matter
pale quartz
did you buy the printer in 2002 or something
quick locust
2020 lol
pale quartz
pale quartz
did you even bother reading the technical before buying it
quick locust
But it's a lot faster than my previous
I didn't buy it
I would have picked one with ethernet but
its fine enough
pale quartz
literally run it off a generator at this point
delicate kindle
WHY IS WARZONE RUNNING AT 1 FRAME EVERY 2 SECONDS
THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING
MY RAM IS AT 96%
WTF
HELP
delicate kindle
16
raw turtle
you got too much stuff running in the background
pale quartz
well, it is the issue
you said your memory utilisation is at 96%, so you are memory limited
delicate kindle
and this is the first time this has happened
pale quartz
yes, and we told you pretty clearly that things like this were going to occur because you are memory and hardware limited
delicate kindle
Only a month ago it was running fine
raw turtle
you have too many things running in the background
there is a magical software called
“Task Manager”
pale quartz
I was about to say closing applications, but that's a better one
raw turtle
look around and see what’s using all the ram
also i’ve heard the new wz map is horribly optimized but not sure
delicate kindle
yeah it's warzone
nothing else is using even close to as much ram
2nd place is chrome at 800mb
warzone is using 5gb
pale quartz
realistically you can't be expecting to run lots of software in the background on a configuration like that
2042 would toast your utilisation to make your entire laptop cease functioning
delicate kindle
I still don't know what the actual problem is
You say it's my specs but realistically I should be running games decent. 2042 minimum spec is a gtx 1050.
and again
my pc only started doing this recently
like less than a year ago
midnight crypt
did your second ram stick die perhaps?
midnight crypt
check if its detected
pale quartz
"minimum specification" is not adequately
it's literally just to run the game, not run it well
you are very far outside the recommended specification, so your performance expectations are also wrong
pascal is a dated architecture, times move on
pale quartz
no, you aren't
lol
a 970 is equivalent to a 1060 in performance, you are barely above it
pale quartz
you are forgetting that you are on a laptop
these recommendations are desktop tier parts
yours cannot be compared to that
delicate kindle
dude
I will say this until you understand
literally a month ago
warzone ran at 60+ fps constantly
now it's completely unplayable
pale quartz
and I will say again that your hardware is intentionally, by design, power limited, and the recommendation for specs are desktop platform suggestions, not laptops
your laptop if you're lucky meets 80% of the base 100% power requirement which is, well, all I really need to say really
your laptop 1070 in desktop leagues is more akin to a 1050ti or 1060, for a base idea
delicate kindle
ok
I believe you
but no game actually uses all my graphics utilization
it's my ram for warzone and cpu for 2042
pale quartz
because you misunderstand how GPU utilisation works
no game released in the last 4 years will ever max out that card
delicate kindle
that's good then
pale quartz
no it's bad
delicate kindle
how
delicate kindle
idk what that has to do with GPU not being completely eaten.
unless ur talking about the load being put onto my cpu and ram
for some reason
pale quartz
because rasterisation in a game, specifically the load placed on a GPU is governed by these 2 variables
the higher the first 2 are in performance the more load that can be placed on the card itself
pale quartz
because that's how GPU rasterisation works lol
delicate kindle
wtf is "rasterisation"
pale quartz
rasterisation is the rate at which the GPU can render vectors and assets in a graphical environment, aka a game
delicate kindle
so wtf does that have to do with other components? If anything the GPU should be best because then it can have the load put on it instead of the other things
again I'm no expert on tech
pale quartz
because the GPU depends on the memory and CPU to operate their own rendering aswell
there is no such thing as the GPU rendering everything
it's performance is tied to the other components in a system
once you start to neglect one part of a system, your performance on the GPU side will regress accordingly too
pale quartz
it's a common misunderstanding
delicate kindle
I was thinking that for some reason my pc was using the CPU for 2042 instead of the gpu
at least the main rendering
I wish there was an option to choose a main rendering component in 2042 settings
pale quartz
games have different performance weights according to how they are developed, cyberpunk is one of those
which is why utilisation varies greatly across each game
delicate kindle
yeah
delicate kindle
like warzone has a setting to use either your gpu or cpu as the display adapter
that's what I meant
pale quartz
this is not involved with the performance of a game
it is simply to do with which hardware renders the game to the screen, it does not influence performance
delicate kindle
ok
pale quartz
for a bit of an idea cyberpunk is a very mathematical simulated game, which is what processors excel for in terms of execution times, GPUs perform horribly for these sets of instructions
delicate kindle
But I still need to know why this only started happening recently. I know games change and become more demanding over time and why some games actually run well still.
pale quartz
meh, too many variables involved to accurately answer that
pale quartz
the core of the problem is you were hardware bound, so this was going to happen one day
you're just unlucky it was this month
delicate kindle
I played a game called godfall recently. I was able to run it at all ultra very smoothly. The recommended specs are a GTX 1080ti. I am below the recommended specs and ran it at ultra well.
pale quartz
godfall is a highly optimised game, much more so than regular games like warzone
quick locust
do you not propagate your desktop to your local network
I do, and I can find the NAS and other ethernet devices, but not the printer
pale quartz
odd one
quick locust
I played a game called godfall recently. I was able to run it at all ultra very ...
games are different
pale quartz
hm actually, I know some vendors make it impossible to find without their own software
it's worth a look
hp are the scum of the earth for doing this
quick locust
for a bit of an idea cyberpunk is a _very_ mathematical simulated game, which is...
ps4 and xbox one versions: delete every traffic and pedestrian to make the jaguar actually able to run anything
😛
pale quartz
ps4 and xbox one versions: delete every traffic and pedestrian to make the jagua...
lol pretty much the WiFi chips are horrible nevermind jaguar
pale quartz
it speaks a lot that quad core ivy bridge had better IPC than 8 jaguar cores
quick locust
the 6310 is same arch pretty much as jaguar just fixed current leak
except
4 core 4 thread
pale quartz
would probably still beat the switch's CPU lmao
quick locust
doesnt take much 😛
pale quartz
I'd rather use atom cores than that God awful mess
quick locust
imagine a switch but with apple sillicon
pale quartz
would probably be pretty terrible
pale quartz
switch games use the x86 ISA HV'ing that would be horrendous
probably actually somehow, less performance than it has now
pale quartz
I actually want to see a switch with ARM silicon
would probably be pretty impressive.. but let's exclude that the SDK would be in shambles
quick locust
it already does?
pale quartz
I'm meaning, up to date SOCs
pale quartz
yeah the switch one is that old I'm pretty sure it doesn't even support ARMs integration for scheduling
and that speaks a LOT
pale quartz
that's hilarious one core on Linux beats 4 cores on Android for MC
pale quartz
not surprised at all bionic was always a masterclass in IPC
.. let's not talk about GPU performance though
quick locust
while switch and 6310 are terrible in it
pale quartz
just mandate Nintendo use Snapdragon boom no more problems
exynos even, funnily enough
quick locust
wonder how my phone compares
pale quartz
I actually kind of want to see that happen, battery life would be nuts
quick locust
noone has it on geekbench
pale quartz
which is it?
vapid estuary
I want a laptop that i can use every day cuz i dont really game anymore but idk which one to choose
prisma anvil
I am waiting till 12th gen makes it to laptop
pale quartz
I want a laptop that i can use every day cuz i dont really game anymore but idk ...
zephyrus g14 easy choice
vapid estuary
zephyrus g14 easy choice
Isnt the trackpad small to use..
vapid estuary
Ya i was struggling between g14 and razer blade 14 but ig ill go with g14 cuz its cheaper
vapid estuary
Okayy ty
latent light
vapid estuary
F
raw turtle
this happen to you?
humble iris
Got lucky today and happened to find a Nintendo Switch at walmart. lol. then people started showing up to buy it.
humble iris
Whoa! wth happened
midnight crypt
coarse nimbus
Angel does it again! ? 
quick locust
Tempered glass moment
prime jasper
_Angel does it again!_ ? <:leo:760110335687524423>
He can’t keep getting away with it
storm rune
and my fps went down once again, was getting stable 100+ fps, now im getting 70-90 (most of the time below 80) 
pearl rose
Hello im trying to play Battlefield with my ps4 controller but it thinks its a xbox controller does anyone know how to fix.
In the beta my controller worked just fine
midnight crypt
just take 1 second to google it
midnight crypt
weird considering i found something
pearl rose
Then tell me
midnight crypt
no
midnight crypt
if you haven't read what this channel is for you might want to
pearl rose
Oke thx for the help it was realy helpfull bye
midnight crypt
vital hornet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntO_d426L0I&ab_channel=der8auerEN
looks sick af tho
reminds me of my old asus tuf x99 mobo
that had thermal armor 🤩
fallow pasture
Hi, first off I think you have done an incredible job in creating a new level of BF experience. The physics, graphics, vehicles and weaponary are excellent. However my it runs terrible on my Gaming Laptop (GTX 3070!) so i am playing on my xbox series x, i am an old skool gamer and was a pro in the early CS 1.6 days so will need keyboard and mouse support to fully engage with the game and start to stream and take it seriously. Is KBM support on your roadmap to release on series X? Thanks in advance
dry grove
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latent light
Intel Arc A380 GPU aims for the RX 6800, faster than RTX 3070 Ti
vapid estuary
uh
midnight crypt
hu
lunar dawn
looks sick af tho
for that price tho... meh
raw turtle
Hi, first off I think you have done an incredible job in creating a new level of...
no devs are gonna respond to you here sadly
they are too busy being verbally abused by reddit and twitter“users”
lunar dawn
Hi, first off I think you have done an incredible job in creating a new level of...
post this in ea forums i guess, at least ea reads that
delicate kindle
I know we've talked about my specs being limited
but
someone ran 2042 128player with an i5 6600 and 1050 ti and ran it better than me.
midnight crypt
laptop or desktop
delicate kindle
I don't think that really affects things here. Even tho I have a laptop 1070, it is equivalent to a 1060 as you guys have said.
Still better than a 1050 ti
and my cpu is better
midnight crypt
still very power limited since its all laptop stuff
delicate kindle
well yeah
are you sure tho? I don't think they have to make laptop specific cpus
only gpus
cuz the full gpu can't fit
the cpu is very small
supple bane
generally laptops are mobile cpus and gpus
unless its really high end then they might have full desktop cpus
delicate kindle
If it was a mobile one it would say so in my spec window
it says "NVidia GTX 1070"
no "mobile"
or anything
supple bane
i highly doubt its a full desktop 1070.
it should say max q somewhere
and the cpu probably has some kind of letter after the name, H, or U maybe
supple bane
what are you looking on?
delicate kindle
windows system info
supple bane
i mean for your gpu
prime jasper
Nah it said i7-7700HQ
I had this cpu on my college gaming laptop and it’s doodoo
delicate kindle
ok
quick locust
pascal use same die for mobile and desktop iirc
but downclocked a lot on mobile obviously
supple bane
yes, it says Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070
i can say for a fact its not a full desktop 1070 lol
supple bane
a laptop cannot cool like 175w? just not possible
supple bane
even the beefiest laptops cap at like 100w
prime jasper
delicate kindle
2-3 weeks
ok
I still don't get how games were running fine up until a year ago
and some even still do
MW2019 ran buttery smooth and still does
while cold war ran much worse
even though it has worse graphics than MW
Maybe my components are melted
delicate kindle
I'm pretty sure we left that years ago
again
mw runs good
2019 game with next gen graphics (at least for the year)
supple bane
yes but different games are optimised in different ways
bf is infamously cpu demanding
always has been
supple bane
yes you are comparing apples to oranges
2042 is a league of its own for the toll on hardware
humble iris
this game is running fine on my nearly 7 yr old CPU.
delicate kindle
what model
humble iris
5930k
delicate kindle
overclocked?
humble iris
stock 3.5
delicate kindle
ok
humble iris
1080p as well so even more CPU dependent
supple bane
6 cores tho eint it?
delicate kindle
to be precice
humble iris
yeah 5930k is 6/12
supple bane
there ya go then :P
humble iris
i'm contemplating a 6950x 12/24 is the max CPU I can upgrade to in this X99 board
supple bane
it would be better to just upgrade the motherboard i think
you are spending money on an upgrade that isnt going to last
humble iris
well for $200 though
supple bane
still a lot of money for not a lot of time
humble iris
I'm waiting for Intel's next HEDT
supple bane
im guessing this was many many years ago tho :P
humble iris
Plus I can't wait in a couple month for Intel ARC GPUs
supple bane
ive had both an intel cpu and amd cpu now, never had issues with either. so my next cpu will be who ever performs better
humble iris
No just recently RAM compatibility issues with B550
supple bane
interesting
humble iris
could not get over 2133
supple bane
tbh that sounds more like faulty hardware rather than something wrong with amd
humble iris
Plus I can't wait for PCIe 5.0 112 lanes
humble iris
tbh that sounds more like faulty hardware rather than something wrong with amd
yeah but a little research showed it was widespread
supple bane
hmm. ive never heard of this. was it a particular kit/brand of memory?
humble iris
several different kits and brands, maybe it was the mother board, but after seeing it was widespread I just quit messing with it
prisma anvil
I overclocked some samsung bdie to 3733 cl14 before on a 5600x it was harder than intel but its ok 1:1:1 for gaming of course.
humble iris
XMP would bluescreen, tried manual with no avail, user is running at 2133
prisma anvil
did u do bios update and check the ram is on the mobo qvl list?
humble iris
I'm done with it. Threadripper I believe is too costly, they are doing the same thing intel does, charge more if they can
it's not really economical to go AMD in my opinion
humble iris
why not?
supple bane
the 3990x is just meme levels compared to what intel has to offer on hedt.
humble iris
for now, and they know it, so they raised prices acordingly
supple bane
yeah. its how the world works i guess
"no one has anything even close to what we have"
"money money money!"
quick locust
I got my ram to 3866
humble iris
yep, I was going to go TR, but hey, might as well stay on intel, I have for last 23 years, with some AMD fun toys here and there
quick locust
Can't get 4000 stable though
humble iris
at least you got 3866
all my intel boards have never had issues with ram
or anything as far as that goes.
overclocks always good
I can get 4.2 GHZ on this 5930k with no effort
quick locust
Zen 2 and later is decent enough with it
humble iris
I have a double bios, #1 for stock, #2 for 4.2GHZ
quick locust
But still has ratio to consider
prisma anvil
zen3 is awesome
humble iris
I will see what happens next year Q3/Q4 and if AMD has something to offer I will go there for sure.
prisma anvil
ADL is goated
quick locust
I run 5.0 on 8700K
coarse nimbus
-insert hows your room temps question- or is that gen not a space heater? 
humble iris
I run 5.0 on 8700K
that's a good CPU
quick locust
Yeah
supple bane
whats the power draw of it at 5.0?
pale quartz
160w on 12 threads
quick locust
Lol
humble iris
95 watt tdp ?
supple bane
for me? 65
i ran it with an oc'ed gpu, cpu and ram :)
just cuz i have a vendetta on my psu i guess
quick locust
My psu is overkill
I ran 2080 ti and vega 64 for a while in fah
Before i got the vega sold
supple bane
bet with a vega 64 your room was like a sauna lol
quick locust
Apparently noone buys or has them here
And that was pre pandemic
Yeah but i could just open window
supple bane
i might look at utilising the used market next
i certainly will be selling my old parts off.
quick locust
I sold an old laptop for 500 kr
But I don't have that much else
A dead 2080 but noone can revive that
Then some old random parts
supple bane
well i mean when i upgrade my cpu in a few months, ill have a spare psu, motherboard, cpu, ram. and potentially cooler + fans
can sell it as a kit and make like half towards the upgrade
quick locust
Yeah
prime jasper
I broke off my pci slot clip 😳
but supposedly that’s not an issue, motherboards didn’t even have that clip like 10 years ago
Just means I gotta make sure it’s screwed in properly
I think
kind compass
anybody else running a 2080ti? seems lik ethis game is poorly optimized
quick locust
Yeah i am
kind compass
what fps are u getting? ive been running ultra 1440p for every game, but this one never settles around 40-50 for me
no RT
utilization is also never 100%, always around 50-70% which makes me wonder whether it is another bottleneck somewhere
vapid estuary
whats your memory config and cpu
kind compass
im surprised tho, every other game is able to hit 60+
destiny 2, warzone, doom, forza
vapid estuary
probably cuz 2042 is much more cpu intensive
inland goblet
Need a good cpu esp for 128
pale quartz
Need a good cpu esp for 128
if you can stretch your budget I'd highly advise doing so for the 12600k
modern gull
if you can stretch your budget I'd highly advise doing so for the 12600k
Me with a i9-9900k 
Got it to 5.0 all cores 1.29v
prisma anvil
That doesn't mean it hasn't aged well.
9900k still curbstomp every game rn.
ADL curbstomp literally every other cpu tho.
9900k is like fine wine I think. What I think the sandy bridge status longevity.
Paired with b die and ur good for another 4 years.
pale quartz
That doesn't mean it hasn't aged well.
I'm not talking about in terms of gaming performance, I'm talking about resale value
of which it has totally tanked
prisma anvil
I think it shouldnt tank that hard. It is the best cpu along with 9900ks for Z390 platform.
Alot of people have Z390 platform and if they just wanna drop the best cpu in it it's the 9900k
Although I do recommend just go full send on alderlake.
supple bane
Anyone know if you can still get 4 gig sticks of ram?
id like to go 4 sticks, rather than 2. but it seems no one sells 4 gb sticks anymore 
and i dont have the budget for 32gb
midnight crypt
no reason to get 4 4gb when you can get 2 8gb sticks
supple bane
there is a reason :P looks
midnight crypt
thats silly
supple bane
its not silly as it wouldnt compromise performance or increase price
except you cant get them anymore :(
i guess the biggest downside is removing an upgrade path
pale quartz
Anyone know if you can still get 4 gig sticks of ram?
the answer is yes
however, only for bad kits
major decent kits don't sell them anymore
supple bane
mmkay 
proud trellis
@supple bane sorry for ping but my old 8GB kit was 2x4 but idk if it’s ‘good’ ram you can have it if you want it but you would obvs have to find 2 more 4GB sticks
supple bane
Yeah it would be even harder trying to find a matching kit
proud trellis
Yeah it would be even harder trying to find a matching kit
do scan sell 2x4 kits ? thought i saw a kit before on their website
supple bane
nah i looked. they used to sell them but not anymore
demand has gone down so supply goes down
only way i could do it is used or go with 8 gig sticks and have 32gb in total, but its just getting it in budget
proud trellis
ahhh rip
i want to try and get 32GB ram in my next pc but its not going to be a priority tbh, will probs get it last
if you can find another 2x4 kit somewhere you can have my 2x4 kit also, but obvs up to you on what you want to do
lunar dawn
Yeah it would be even harder trying to find a matching kit
you can use different kits
faster ram sticks will adapt to the slower ones
quick locust
quick locust
<@162568099839606784> you're dumb
read his message above
"I'm not talking about in terms of gaming performance, I'm talking about resale value"
frigid wharf
So what's confusing you? @long echo
long echo
So what's confusing you? <@478661273706299403>
i7 11700 or ryzen 7 5600G both in combo with a 3070TI
frigid wharf
i7 11700 or ryzen 7 5600G both in combo with a 3070TI
Probably go with the Ryzen 7 5600G. I've been having nothing but issues with my Intel i9.
I'm replacing both my processor and motherboard to AMD
frigid wharf
I have a MSI Mag z590 ACE w/ i9 11900k and had burned through multiple RAM sticks within weeks. Believe it's my motherboard faulting out.
Switching to a ASUS ROG x570 w/ Ryzen 9 5900x
storm osprey
11700 is definitely a better cpu than 5600g
toxic wigeon
Sorry wasn't the a 5700 g star?
storm osprey
an 11700 is a toss up between a 5600x, which the 5600g is a severely gimped down version of to be an APU
long echo
i will read about it some more
long echo
Sorry wasn't the a 5700 g star?
uhmm
storm osprey
iirc theres no 5700g
storm osprey
laptop?
toxic wigeon
Desktop
frigid wharf
Believe desktop
long echo
desktop ye
storm osprey
welp learned something new today.. why specifically are you looking at the G variants?
storm osprey
if its 5700g vs an 11700 for the same price i would get the 11700
toxic wigeon
Thought the 5700g was just a 5600x with integrated graphics
long echo
i prolly drop the gpu or something
toxic wigeon
Hm
storm osprey
5700g should have a higher core/thread count
because a 5600g is just a 5600x with an igpu
storm osprey
storm osprey
yea 5700g falls way behind the 11700 (it is the K variant but if its stock performance will be similar)
toxic wigeon
The variant she's looking at isn't the k variant if im correct
storm osprey
OC is arguably not even worth it anyway
toxic wigeon
Jesus intel isn't so bad huh
storm osprey
really the only difference is power consumption, but intel wins in price to performance
toxic wigeon
With it working best with Windows 11 kinda has me bleh
storm osprey
basically if the 11700 and 5700g prebuilts are the same price, easily get the 11700
quick locust
11700 is better than 5600G and 5700G at same prices
toxic wigeon
5600x dream...
storm osprey
thered have to be more than a 100 dollar difference between the 2 for me to consider the 5700g over the 11700
toxic wigeon
Amd isn't planning a full on gen yet right?
toxic wigeon
Probably be a while until everyone upgrades their motherboards
For it
Im super interested to see what amd has in store though
When it comes to a new gen
quick locust
yeah
new gen and new socket
and it'll be LGA finally
but it will be a while, they will do refresh first
long echo
theres 12600K as well
not available anywhere
toxic wigeon
Yeah he's just looking around
quick locust
theres a decent amount of prebuilts with 12600K
even dell, but I would not buy from them
toxic wigeon
Thing is tak I don't think many yet are gonna upgrade their motherboard just to use the new CPUs yet. Considering how long they last.
quick locust
yes i know
toxic wigeon
Though will Intel and amd use completely different sockets? I'm curious about that
long echo
yes
quick locust
yes, two different LGA sockets
toxic wigeon
Guess if you had a chance you would do it
prime jasper
for 2042, is there a difference jumping from an i5 to an i7?
quick locust
there's like 60 of each, so be more specific
storm osprey
as general of a comment that is, yes there should be a difference @prime jasper
prime jasper
i have an i5-10400
storm osprey
storm osprey
iirc 10400 is similar to 3600x
toxic wigeon
Yo nyphon can you drop a link to that site?
I wanna test something out
Or if you can get a chart for me thats be great
@storm osprey blah should have replied first
toxic wigeon
Demand go brr
prime jasper
yeaah i bought this prebuilt before lockdown so im looking to part upgrade it now
storm osprey
Yo nyphon can you drop a link to that site?
toxic wigeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fIf-C8UjWY&t=411s
Ohhh thought it was something different, im really curious how well it'll run on a 3080 with a 5600 on 1440. Hopefully consistent enough
Especially with c16 ram I hope I'm fine :|
quick locust
yes
toxic wigeon
Thing is. I don't want to be one of those people but I'm afraid of optimisation with everyone saying their rigs are having difficulties.
quick locust
i run fine with a worse cpu and gpu
(though the game is allergic to alt tab right now, so avoid that)
quick locust
8700K and 2080 ti
toxic wigeon
I mean, how do you get the most usage out of it. Just close down all windows and leave 2042 solely?
quick locust
discord etc doesnt have much impact
toxic wigeon
Especially with lots of a ram yeah
storm osprey
well 3080 vs 3090 is like.. 10 fps difference
but since launch ive gotten some patches that have given me pretty good performance increases
toxic wigeon
Oh!
Pfft so much thinking that more cores would help. That's such a little difference with a 5800
storm osprey
in the absolute thick of the fights i get about 90 fps, outside of it 120fps
toxic wigeon
Honestly that's bearable
storm osprey
i have a 10700k too, so the 5600x should be getting more that that now
storm osprey
i do use dlss though, i forget which one but everyone on 1440p should use it
toxic wigeon
Forgot dlss was a thing because I'm on console all the time, so a free what. 10 fps?
storm osprey
pretty much
storm osprey
at 1440p the difference isnt huge, but you literally cant tell a difference in image quality otherwise, so why not
toxic wigeon
I like 1440, I'd go for 2k if I were more confident but the game is a new and i might try that if I get something more powerful
quick locust
2K is 1080p
storm osprey
yeaaaa resolution numbers and their naming is weird...
toxic wigeon
2160...
quick locust
the K naming is horizontal
toxic wigeon
Goddammit
storm osprey
toxic wigeon
Wtf
quick locust
this except they wrote the resolution for 1080p wrong in the bracket next to it (not in 2K bracket)
storm osprey
its part marketing and makes sense, since 4k does have 4x the pixels than 1080p, but thats not because 1080p x4 is roughly 4000
storm osprey
1440p
toxic wigeon
Wait not 2160 blahhh
I guess when you think of 2k you think of the width not the height and shit
quick locust
toxic wigeon
Don't make brain hurt more!
quick locust
some marketing call 1440p for 2K, but it would be incorrect
anyway
you should be able to play it fine in 2560x1440
thats what I do
quick locust
it's a bit of a mess
storm osprey
1440p ftw
toxic wigeon
You'd think 2560 by 1440 is 2k for obvious reasons but nah
quick locust
but you can just call it QHD for short for 1440
toxic wigeon
I dont feel dumb but I sorta do for misunderstanding it
quick locust
a lot of marketing misuse it
but no, a increase from 2K to 4K is 4 times more pixels
same from 4K to 8K
toxic wigeon
So its the height that overall determines it. If it's 2560 by 2560 that is true 2K, Correct?
quick locust
and DCI defines 2K as 2048x1080
(or the cropped variants)
now most monitors are 16:9 so less wide than cinema ratios
so 1920x1080 is closest for monitors to 2K. just less wide aspect ratio
toxic wigeon
Got it
What's a good tool to clean up your computers by the way? Just generally defragging helps? Or do you guys do a full on reset for the computer
storm osprey
i thought k was just short for thousand, didnt know it had to do with horizontal orientation
quick locust
it is thousaind, but it's the horizontal pixels they use
quick locust
What's a good tool to clean up your computers by the way? Just generally defragg...
filelight and in general removing programs you are not using
toxic wigeon
File light?
storm osprey
i bet most people assume the p in 1080p means pixels
storm osprey
i had an interlaced tv, so thats why i know the difference
toxic wigeon
I wonder if oled monitors will be a thing
quick locust
I wonder if oled monitors will be a thing
they are a thing, but expensive
toxic wigeon
At the moment, theyre probably not worth it due to the response time / quality
toxic wigeon
How much?
toxic wigeon
Jeeeesus christ
Thats as much as an ultra wide!
Oh jeez nyphon that's on ultra that chart
On high i should be able to get a good number
quick locust
samsung is about to produce more 34 inch oleds though
currently a lot of the oled monitors are much bigger
too big for desktop use really
since limited displays for it
LG's current 34 inch monitor is 4000 usd
but hopefully samsung can push it a bit down
toxic wigeon
Hey tak you wanna buy a new pc or a monitor with that money?
quick locust
xP
toxic wigeon
Itll be a while until the tech becomes easier to make and more mainstream
Which I kinda can't wait for
I love to see what they can do with tech
toxic wigeon
Yeah guess you'd adjust to it
vapid estuary
Ultrawides are very uncomfortable to game on
pale quartz
I just fuck with him
storm osprey
People on reddit are 🤌
people on reddit are italian?
pale quartz
What's a good tool to clean up your computers by the way? Just generally defragg...
it isn't commonly known but with an NVMe SSD never defrag the drive
it's a good way to cause terminal data corruption
prisma anvil
🤌
vapid estuary
people on reddit are italian?
Yes and i can confirm
toxic wigeon
Got it deco
quick locust
SSDs in general
toxic wigeon
Never defrag the holy ssd
vapid estuary
pale quartz
SSDs in general
SpiNnInG RuSt IS BeTtER ThAN An sSd YoU GeT MoRe StOrAgE AnD It LaStS LoNgER
lunar dawn
Never defrag the holy ssd
how can you even defrag an ssd, i thought windows defrag doesnt allow you to do that
toxic wigeon
So in a sense do ssds automatically "refrag" themselves?
quick locust
it isn't commonly known but with an NVMe SSD __never__ defrag the drive
Just ssds in general not just nvme
pale quartz
not commonly known but SSDs actually defrag themselves
toxic wigeon
Huh
quick locust
Why...
toxic wigeon
What do you know!
quick locust
pale quartz
Just ssds in general not just nvme
yeah I said NVMes because the amount of people using SATA SSDs is infinitely small compared to it
but it's true for both
quick locust
You underestimate the amount of sata then
pale quartz
most likely
quick locust
Even m.2 sata
pale quartz
only reason you're doing that on a primary drive is if NVMe doesn't exist
lunar dawn
yeah I said NVMes because the amount of people using SATA SSDs is infinitely sma...
i mean there are sata ssd with 2280 form factor
quick locust
Yeah I have some
pale quartz
So in a sense do ssds automatically "refrag" themselves?
defragmentation is a biproduct of older times involving hard drives
to cut 3 paragraphs short, hard drives had no mechanism of efficiently storing block data on their plate
this is what defragging is, in that fragmentation is reduced between blocks of data to reduce the latency time it takes to access data which coincide with one another
quick locust
not commonly known but SSDs actually defrag _themselves_
It's not defrag per se, but trim
toxic wigeon
Ahhh
pale quartz
SSDs do not suffer from this as they have an inbuilt block allocator on the chip which can efficiently arrange data
toxic wigeon
I always grew up thinking that when you delete files it would cause a hole in your computer and when you defragged it it would sort of sort it out.
pale quartz
hence why there is no defragmentation to begin with
pale quartz
I always grew up thinking that when you delete files it would cause a hole in yo...
nah, fragmentation is simply that, fragmented plates of data, which is also why it takes hours and hours to finish on a hard drive because it's a total mess to accurately do on spinning rust with a mechanical laser
quick locust
And why windows does it by default if you're not using the pc for a while
toxic wigeon
Yeah
quick locust
Does it while you're not using it anyway
pale quartz
^
if it didn't more or less expect your pc to stop functioning eventually for 10 minutes whilst a word document loads
quick locust
And fragmentation doesn't really matter as much on ssds since there is no physical header that has to reach and read the data
pale quartz
and enjoy hearing the plate spin finding it
quick locust
Instead they just TRIM to know what is available for use
Imagine defrag on a tape drive
pale quartz
I have had the horror of doing it
quick locust
Enterprise ones is like 40 TB
pale quartz
went to sleep and woke up the next day it was only 50% complete
quick locust
And is even more limited than hdds to do it
pale quartz
the screeching sound of death I will never go back to
pale quartz
And is even more limited than hdds to do it
yeah there is this massive catch aswell with stacked HDDs
enjoy spending double the time to seek data!
pale quartz
OneDrive sync on tape when
pale quartz
modem problems