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delicate reef
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Sorry icey

quick locust
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Must correct bad marketing

midnight crypt
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im sorry but youre powerless before multi billion $ companies

quick locust
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On samsungs own website they don't do it wrong

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Same with LG

pale quartz
delicate reef
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LG ❤️

quick locust
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Someone said it yesterday but I wasn't online then

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Intel Marks 50th Anniversary of the Intel 4004 The historical milestone marks the arrival of the first commercially available microprocessor, which would shape life-changing technology. What’s New: Today, Intel celebrates the 50th anniversary of the Intel® 4004, the world’s first commercially available microprocessor. With its launch in November...

small kelp
void cave
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is it only me but I can't seem to contact EA support cuz it's just loading

rancid haven
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Well, I think my gpu isn't going to recover.. and ea wasn't helpful when I talked to one of their people last night.

lunar dawn
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actually no, 1080p is 1920x1080 while 2k is 2048x1080

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very similar

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almost same resolution

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but also yes 1440p is called quad hd wich isnt 2k

quick locust
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It's just the closest as most monitors are 16:9

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While cinema is a bit wider

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Also 1080 could refer to both of them, it's just the height

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P is just for progressive

small kelp
void cave
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guys can anyone of you contact EA support? for me it's just loading I have been waiting for 1hour but it just continues to load.

lunar dawn
void cave
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ok so I bought bf 2042 through the in game store at the end of my 10 hour trial because I wanted to keep on playing but as it turns out the standard edition doesn't give you early access, so I contacted support and asked for a refund and the support guy told me he would refund my game.

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srry for the essay

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anyway after that I went to EA.com to look at my order history and then I see that I have a pending refund that Ican't to anything about

lunar dawn
small kelp
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well yeah it's not instant

lunar dawn
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to get money back

pale quartz
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refunds are not automatic, it will take a few days to process to your bank

lunar dawn
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you just need to wait

void cave
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oh ok...

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well in 7-10 days I won't need a refund

small kelp
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well

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xD

lunar dawn
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for example steam says it takes 5 days and when i refunded a game months ago it took 2 days

void cave
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so then I'm kinda getting worked up over nothing then

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well thanks REVΛN

quick locust
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While Benq website is wrong

small kelp
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what does that make my 2560x 1440 monitor then?

quick locust
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As well as toms hardware

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Nothing

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Cinemas don't use it

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So it isn't defined

small kelp
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but its higher resolution than standard 2k

quick locust
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Yes

small kelp
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but just because it isnt cinema it's not 2k

quick locust
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But the K system is cinema standards

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Which does not use 1440

small kelp
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why must you fuck my head

quick locust
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Usually 2560x1440 is called QHD instead

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Because it's 4 times HD (1280x720)

livid wagon
quick locust
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What

glacial totem
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day 4 of not being able to play because EA wont fix their shitty direct x error

storm rune
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Well well well

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i udpated my gpu drivers

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did something in cfg

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getting way more fps

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but now this is happening 😭

blazing turtle
storm rune
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100-140 on the snow map

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but stuttering

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cause of the cpu usage

blazing turtle
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Oh dang, What resolution?

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What’s your specs?

storm rune
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r5 5600x rtx 3070 1080p

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i'll try 1440p from dsr

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welp 1440p didnt change anything

midnight crypt
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less cpu usage

storm rune
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these two are 1440p

midnight crypt
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oh

storm rune
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hmm i have to think what i did

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will something happen if i delete these two?

midnight crypt
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isnt that your saved settings?

storm rune
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it is

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i want to remove them

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and than set them once again

midnight crypt
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well then deleting those should work

rancid haven
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That's toxic. Can't talk to asus online chat about my gpu without the serial number

storm rune
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it didnt help

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sadge

midnight crypt
glossy depot
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Sorry late reply but yea same problem, and the same goes for two of my other comrades :(

lofty ocean
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I hit max settings on the game

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It's like 40fps now

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I think dynamic resolution is killing me

ebon scaffold
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125-150 fps now

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Low settings on a 3070 with an i9-9900k low settings dlls auto

storm rune
raw turtle
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yeah ping me with the method you used

storm rune
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i dont know what happened that my cpu usage went up this high

winter silo
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Hey guys need some help/tip. Anyone of u experienced such camera freezes/glitches. FPS 60-80, ping 70-80. In beta all was cool, not i'm noticing such freezes while gameplay almost on every map. Any help appreciate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srew10_nKhA

storm rune
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Fixed it

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Neat

weary flax
prisma anvil
winter silo
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RTX 2080Super, I9

celest ledge
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does anyone know how to fix the microsoft store? any time i try to download anything even updates i get errors.

prisma anvil
winter silo
storm rune
spark folio
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Man I am only getting 70fps with everything on low and all extras turned off. I can usually get 144 on other games. Is there something I need to do? I am on a 1080

spark folio
sterile oxide
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most fixes dont do much

celest ledge
storm osprey
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wait till day 1 patch, but even still, comparing 2042 performance to other titles is kind of weird

prisma anvil
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common problem I see is people not enabling xmp, wrong ram slot.

storm osprey
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"2042 with massive maps, top of the line graphics, 128 people and all sorts of things going on doest compare to this 5v5 arena shooter in performance? crazy"

spark folio
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does reflex low latency do anything?

prisma anvil
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prebuilt 95% of the time dont have xmp enabled

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or have only 1 ram at slot 2 not utilizing dual channel memory

pale quartz
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"I GET 144 FRAMES ON SPLITGATE AND NOT 2042!!"

spark folio
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Or does anyone have any template for the Manage 3D Settings under Nividia Control Panel I can go off of?

small kelp
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jesus christ yesterday was playable

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now i cant even get 60 frames

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fck me

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i was gonna go for the 6900xt but the 3080ti was more stable in almost every game and 6900xt was somehow more expensive xD

prisma anvil
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amd zen 3 and rdna 2 is great u shouldnt have trouble

small kelp
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i removed the latest one and got the second newest one

pale quartz
small kelp
pale quartz
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except it does lol

prisma anvil
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depends on applications lol

pale quartz
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it's the fastest 1440p raster card on the market

celest ledge
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came back with no errors, after restart ran it again and got no errors.

spark folio
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The latest ones that show for me are the ones optimized for Guardians of the Galaxy. Nothing beyond that.

prisma anvil
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dont need a fanbase war here

pale quartz
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it isn't a fanbase war it's just a fact

small kelp
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i havent seen a game where it out performs 3080ti

pale quartz
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Nvidia ampere isn't built for raster performance it's built for FP32 INT performance

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big surprise 99% of people have no clue how GPU rasterisation works

small kelp
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big surprise most people compare performance instedad.

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and if one card has lower on average fps u dont buy it.

pale quartz
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and there's countless others

spark folio
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isn't it meaning to move cpu memory usage to gpu usage... usually what opengl does

pale quartz
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odd one

prisma anvil
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game is ram/cpu bottlenecked

pale quartz
prisma anvil
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also yes 6900xt does beat 3080ti and 3090 out of the box most of the time in 1440p

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but I am pushing 140-180+ fps on a 3080ti

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its not the gpu

storm osprey
pale quartz
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it's always hilarious when people try arguing about framerate to justify their lower end purchase when they have no clue how INT raster works

small kelp
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also where is 3080 ti in that?

pale quartz
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the 3080ti, the card that's slower than the 3090?

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speaks for itself really

small kelp
pale quartz
prisma anvil
small kelp
pale quartz
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the literal screenshot by nyphon has the 3080ti

small kelp
pale quartz
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those numbers aren't even close either

pale quartz
# small kelp this one

it was from December 2020 lol you're asking about where a card that is slower than a 3090 is on the chart

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big surprise, below the 3090

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which means below the 6900xt

small kelp
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i mean look at the drops tho

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6900xt drops morer than 3080ti

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so 3080ti is more stabler

pale quartz
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what

rustic temple
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Guys, any chance I can get my game to run over 40-50 fps?

RTX 2070 Super, Ryzen 5 3600x 16gb DDR4 3600ghz

celest ledge
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says i need to update but it isnt giving me an option to update.

pale quartz
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look at the frame timings? the thing that isn't measured by performance?

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you're coping so hard trying to justify your purchase lmao

rustic temple
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@prisma anvil ?

small kelp
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i can buy a 6900xt if i want right now so i dont need to cope fucking shit

prisma anvil
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u can get that fps ez

rustic temple
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How?

pale quartz
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you are right now

rustic temple
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I literally can't

small kelp
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but i wont because its fuckin useless card

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amd drivers are shit

pale quartz
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lmao

small kelp
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and always will be

pale quartz
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have you seen 2042?

storm osprey
quick locust
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Deco your time to argue

pale quartz
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and it being way more stable on RDNA2?

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not a coincidence

pale quartz
celest ledge
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yeah im on win 10. but i dont think its been updating.

rustic temple
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@prisma anvil Can you help me? I can screen share

pale quartz
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spend an hour here and look at all the Nvidia users complaining about 2042 performance then say AMD drivers are shit

rustic temple
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anyone!

pale quartz
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see how that works out for you

pale quartz
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@quick locust that's the only one good thing to come out this 2042 situation lmao

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all the Nvidia stans go silent

rustic temple
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to see waht the issue is, I am running the game on 40-50 fps if not lower

prisma anvil
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idk why nvidia users are complaining

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I am doing 140-180+fps on nvidia card

pale quartz
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because Nvidia drivers are horseshit tanking the performance on 90% of cards

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because it doesn't exist yet

prisma anvil
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they prob dont have xmp enabled and complain

small kelp
prisma anvil
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I am on the latest nvidia driver and see 0 problem

quick locust
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Lul

small kelp
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cuz i have xmp enabled.

small kelp
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with high end gpu

prisma anvil
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well great hopefully I can push 200+ when they do

pale quartz
# quick locust Lul

the next time some fool says that again after all this tidies over just tell them to cnfrl + f "gtx frame" on this discord

small kelp
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well i hope they fix the game so i can run over 50 fps at low settings

prisma anvil
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@small kelp dm me ill stream u my game

celest ledge
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how do i force update. theres no button for me to press to update. it just says im not up to date and nothing else.

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i believe so yeah.

quick locust
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Then it's not 90% of this chat

celest ledge
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maybe. tbh i dont know what that means. if youre asking if im the only one one the computer yeah no one else uses it.

pale quartz
spark folio
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My xmp setting says auto the only other setting is profile. Which I never remember setting up a profile. Ram frequency is 3200. Doesn't say I'm overclock my ram.

delicate reef
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But I do follow studio drivers for my own purposes, but yah been longer than 2 now

quick locust
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Look at nvidias changelogs for windows compared to their unix driver

spark folio
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Nvidia usually has a day 1 driver for popular games. But since we get it a week ahead that means they are not dropping a new driver til Friday?

delicate reef
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I believe no one truly knows

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We hope

spark folio
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Last one says I have was for when guardians of the Galaxy released

storm osprey
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one of my favorite sayings is to wait to find out

delicate reef
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Yah last was Oct 24th

storm rune
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Hmm my pc just turned off

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While i clicked to play a conquest in bf portal

quick locust
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Windows changelog vs linux for nvidia drivers

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Lol

spark folio
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We did things compared to here is what we did

pale quartz
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the Linux maintainers even went so far as to list their fucking library changes meanwhile the windows team just say fuck you download it anyways

quick locust
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Yeah

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Though on production branch the latest is 1 sentence

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But that's a hotfix

lunar dawn
quick locust
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Small patch compared to New Feature branch

lunar dawn
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its actually a question lol, i need to know

pale quartz
quick locust
pale quartz
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you have no choice

lunar dawn
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nvidia said it the driver release note

pale quartz
lunar dawn
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not official but still early release

pale quartz
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AMD already have their official driver out they have had it out for 4 days

quick locust
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It's an october driver

pale quartz
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there's nothing you can do other than wait

lunar dawn
quick locust
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They haven't done one for full release

lunar dawn
pale quartz
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it isn't

quick locust
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I wish 2042 would allow proton eac though

lunar dawn
pale quartz
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people instantly download it go into a match where framerate is highly variable and assume it's better

pale quartz
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it makes no difference just wait

pale quartz
quick locust
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Yeah it did

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But it needs the developer to check it

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To allow it

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Same with battleeye over proton

pale quartz
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AMDs driver for 2042 is quite impressive, tested their driver before and after the official certification for 2042 and it's around a 12% framerate difference

quick locust
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Nice

pale quartz
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wonder how they're pulling that off

quick locust
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Sometimes I wish I went amd but

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They only had 5700xt at the time

pale quartz
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yeah half Navi 2 lol

quick locust
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Though my 2080 ti do well obviously

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Next thing to upgrade would be my intel 600p I guess

pale quartz
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wish they released RDNA2 earlier though the driver patches were huge up to its release, so I understand why they didn't

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don't want a rerun of bad drivers

quick locust
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Intel 600p endurance is quite bad

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Plus I only have 256 GB of nvme

pale quartz
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I had the 660p what a terrible terrible drive

quick locust
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Rest sata

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660p is qlc one

pale quartz
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the fact they sold that as a main drive is beyond a joke

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yeah

quick locust
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Yeah I use 600p which is also meg

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Meh

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Although it's tlc

pale quartz
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utter atrocious performance once you fill up half it's capacity it goes slower than a hard drive

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worst drive I ever got

quick locust
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Yeah

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Sometimes my 870 evo is faster

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With F2FS

pale quartz
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yeah my 860 Evo is, ironically enough a night and day difference compared to that drive

quick locust
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At least it never gets hot i guess

pale quartz
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I'm not waiting around for a file to load

quick locust
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Yeah

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Plus I only have that as nvme and it's 256 GB

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I've held off buying another ssd since I want a pcie 4 one

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But meh

pale quartz
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ah yeah the big fish of the lower the storage of the drive the worse performance it is

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people still don't get that to this day

quick locust
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I know

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Actually

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I think the hynix sata drive in my laptop is faster too sometimes

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With same capacity

pale quartz
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have my 860's linked up in RAID I/O for read is 2.5gbps

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write around 1.7

quick locust
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Nice

pale quartz
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quite decent

quick locust
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Also a lot more endurance than my intel

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Although

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I don't do that much write to it

pale quartz
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what's the TBO on that 600?

quick locust
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50 TB after 3 years

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It's 144 TBW

pale quartz
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that's it?

quick locust
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Yeah

pale quartz
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lol what a fucking joke

quick locust
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Originally 72 TB when released but they increased it

pale quartz
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that should not be sold as a drive that's just an insult to SSDs

quick locust
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Would die quick if I did chia on it

brisk locust
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fuck

quick locust
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Lol

brisk locust
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i expected the gif to show up

quick locust
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But I don't do that much writing to my main drive compared to the others (but that's cause of capacity too)

pale quartz
quick locust
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Yeah

quick locust
prime jasper
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is it just me or it feels like the game now is less optimized than the beta lol, because i was hitting 80-90 fps in beta no issues with my 1070 and i7-6700, and now i cant stay at 50 fps always under 50 wtf

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something feels odd

quick locust
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Not again

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Wait for nvidia driver

pale quartz
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#17304'th Nvidia user complaining about performance

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you know what's funny takmikill the server count has increased by 8k in a week and most of em are this

midnight crypt
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As we all know

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This is the tech support channel

prime jasper
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people having issues and they come to ask and see if there's any solutions

quick locust
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Read channel desc

pale quartz
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^

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this isn't tech support lol

quick locust
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But I do understand them

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It's jusf a large wave

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Of people we can just tell to wait

prime jasper
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understandable

pale quartz
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should be a bot command tbh

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then I can use it in the bf2042 channel and be accused of being a shill

quick locust
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Lol

tepid hinge
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I couldn't play the beta at all, got very low (10-15 fps with stutters) on my PC during the beta, has the performance improved?

quick locust
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Wait for nvidia driver

pale quartz
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people just coming in pasting the same message lol

hearty roost
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Ah what a candy did I read. 3080ti better as an 6900xt sugar meme aPES_LulLaugh

tepid hinge
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my hardware technically doesnt even meet system req though which is insane

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you telling me this is simply because nvidia didnt release a driver?

pale quartz
tepid hinge
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so... you didnt read the pcpp link?

midnight crypt
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Your cpu is doodoo

tepid hinge
hearty roost
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1060 with 3 gb is mostly the issue. 2042 could work maybe on 1080p <30fps with luck.

pale quartz
midnight crypt
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There it is

pale quartz
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which is why I said

midnight crypt
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"it works in every other game"

pale quartz
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1600 + 1060 3gb = no thanks

tepid hinge
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a 1600 is not a bad processor it just isnt the newest thing out

midnight crypt
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Its bad for bf2042

pale quartz
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it is a bad processor

tepid hinge
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well, it isnt

pale quartz
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it's equivalent to skylake performance

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lol

hearty roost
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define bad, for gaming yes, for productivity no.

pale quartz
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first generation Zen is terrible for gaming performance

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always has been

midnight crypt
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Sneaky bot message

hearty roost
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^this

tepid hinge
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why did 2042 become 14fps unplayable mess when I could play BFV at 80-90 on high

quick locust
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Zeppelin fastest gunslinger in the west

pale quartz
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because you are out of video memory

hearty roost
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1600 on gaming is a meme. Right now i am regarding my purchase of my 2700x, after I have seen what 2042 does to it.

pale quartz
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and you've got a 1600

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there problem identified

tepid hinge
pale quartz
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we have no idea

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it's not important

midnight crypt
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Doesn't matter

tepid hinge
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yes, you do

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you have a really good idea

pale quartz
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no, we dont

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and I dont care

hearty roost
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well nope.

tepid hinge
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the year every 1600 was bought

pale quartz
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ok, so what?

tepid hinge
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when it was the intelligent choice for someone on the mid range

pale quartz
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yes 4 years ago

tepid hinge
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yes...

pale quartz
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it's 2021 not 2017

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get with the times

tepid hinge
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no shit

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lmao

pale quartz
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it's a low end system deal with it lol

hearty roost
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well many people bought a 1600 after the release of the 2600 cause AMD made some changes to the 1600, where it became close to his younger brother 2600 in games.

tepid hinge
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ppl really do be shit talking for no reason

pale quartz
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we dont care when you bought it

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it is low end by today's standards

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you can get angry all you want we're just telling you the reality

quick locust
tepid hinge
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im not annoyed that my hardware isnt high end

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it wasnt high end when I bought it

hearty roost
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Even than it wasnt high end

pale quartz
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yeah and it's not mid range by today

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it's low end we aren't insulting you

tepid hinge
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im more annoyed you seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder

quick locust
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Imagine 2042 on original xbox one

pale quartz
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we're just telling you

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lmao

hearty roost
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High end in that time was threadripper 1950x with a 1080ti/titan

tepid hinge
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lol no.

pale quartz
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people getting angry about being told where their performance is by today's standards like ??

tepid hinge
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TR was worse than the 1600 in gaming

pale quartz
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so despicable

quick locust
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TR never was focused for gaming

tepid hinge
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^

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1800x was the best ryzen CPU that generation for gaming

pale quartz
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it's like telling someone who has a 3770 that their system is low end in 2021 and them complaining it was mid tier when they bought it

tepid hinge
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and nobody was buying 77xx intel at the time

hearty roost
quick locust
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Happy for my 8700K

prime jasper
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Any tips on how to increase GPU usage? im at 20% usage and 60 fps..

quick locust
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Cheaper than 1800X and faster

pale quartz
hearty roost
prime jasper
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gonna be a long 4 days

hearty roost
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yep

prime jasper
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i shouldnt have downloaded that shitty driver

hearty roost
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yep

prime jasper
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should have stuck with my 90 fps but i was greedy

pale quartz
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tbh takmikill this entire debacle has made realise just how elitist the pc market is

quick locust
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Yeah

hearty roost
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We all was, we all..

tepid hinge
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lmao ironic as fuck

pale quartz
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you don't see this type of behaviour from the console crowd

prime jasper
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console cant really do anything to help performanced

pale quartz
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not you

tepid hinge
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"my PC ever gonna run this game?"
"your shit bad idiot"
"ok fully aware guy I didnt ask that"

pale quartz
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nobody called you an idiot stop making up things

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infact nobody insulted you

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you got angry that we told you the reality of the situation that's all

quick locust
hearty roost
# tepid hinge lmao ironic as fuck

btw. next time before you ask if your PC can run XY remember: Minimum Specs are mostly 1080p 30FPS minimum settings of doom youre below, dont try it.

tepid hinge
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no I got angry that you're deflecting

pale quartz
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deflecting? I'm just telling you

tepid hinge
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yes, deflecting off to some other tangent

pale quartz
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not at all

tepid hinge
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I only asked if the game ran any better on full release

prime jasper
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what does "MaxvariableFPS" do in your config files for 2042

quick locust
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Will be interesting seeing benchmarks once driver is out

pale quartz
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i was very specific about your hardware, where it ranks today, and you made up some excuse about 2017 for some reason

tepid hinge
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no you just misread as per us

pale quartz
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did I? then why did 2 other people say the same thing as me

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did they misread too

tepid hinge
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idk you might spend too much time here

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thats my quick judgement

hearty roost
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Yeah we must misread it as well aPES_Hmmm

pale quartz
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your judgement is off

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not surprised it was off from the first time

pale quartz
quick locust
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Yeah

prime jasper
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lets go back to the main question of this channel and it is the fps issue lmfao 🤣

quick locust
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Though that was 1 map

pale quartz
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I think my gains are mostly just driver side framerate was mostly the exact same for that map

hearty roost
pale quartz
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(on the driver before)

prime jasper
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i feel like something is just limiting my fps

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like capping it

pale quartz
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then you're feeling something that isn't there

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it's a driver issue just wait like we said

livid wagon
prime jasper
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yea

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20%

livid wagon
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alot of people are having this issue including me

prime jasper
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it litterally goes from

#

25%

#

to 5-9%

#

then back up

#

its so weirx

#

weird*

hearty roost
#

technically the GPU is limiting out of nowhere aPES_LulLaugh Stupid 496.49 PES_HmmKnife

prime jasper
#

nvidia fucked up big time

livid wagon
#

either nvidia or dice

#

or both tbh

prime jasper
#

i bet ea is screaming at nvidia to get it fixed lol

#

now i can actually focus on other things knowing that there is absolutely nothing to fix my fps

hearty roost
#

Or more like: " RELEASE THIS DAMN DRIVER RIGHT NOW" Nvidia like: "Nope, this game isn`t released yet"

prime jasper
#

^

#

honestly

#

id want them to wait

#

so they have more time to

#

review it

#

instead of releasing a half baked driver

pale quartz
#

no you dont

prime jasper
#

why

pale quartz
#

because this mess caused it

livid wagon
#

a day 1 patch or an nvidia driver isnt confirmed so stay on your toes ig

prime jasper
#

imagine it dosent come out

#

i cant even refund i have 24 hours on 2042

hearty roost
#

In case when Nvidia isn`t releasing an new driver I will throw my 3080 out and my 3 years old Vega 64 needs to handle this.

pale quartz
hearty roost
#

But well we can`t play on the 19ths I guess every single server is dying throuh millions of players. Already the beta had 7.7 millions PES_BoiStop

quick locust
#

I had reference vega 64

#

Early one

#

Ear destroyed

hearty roost
#

Walked straight for the Asus Strix Version 1.

pale quartz
#

LOL I love that "early one" followed by "early destroyed"

quick locust
#

Biostar 6700XT is louder I think

#

3800 rpm at stock in gameplay

#

Dual fan

pale quartz
#

biostar 101

#

basically the definition of loud af fans

#

motherboards are hot garbage aswell

quick locust
#

Bad heatsink with delta fans

hearty roost
#

Yeah, but AMD learned and what are we seeing a sexy rev from the 6000 series PES_Interesting

pale quartz
#

you think this is good just wait till RDNA3

#

that's when the real performance kicks in

prime jasper
#

whats

#

rdna3

hearty roost
#

Radeon 7000 Series probably

pale quartz
#

RDNA3 is the architecture for AMDs rx 7000 series

hearty roost
#

the new brother and I hope 50% again stronger brother

pale quartz
#

lol it'll be more than that

#

expect 2x gains over the 6900xt roughly

hearty roost
#

I hope. AMD is running crazy right now.

pale quartz
#

RDNA3 is a MCM GPU, first of its kind

#

6900xt performance will be achievable for $400~

hearty roost
#

And still dont have the money to invest in AMD FUCK

quick locust
#

Not first but first consumer

pale quartz
#

lol I made a friend of mine a lot of money

quick locust
#

Intel has tiled

pale quartz
#

well minus tiles

prime jasper
#

hm

#

when do you expect this rdna3 to come out

#

ive got money to burn

#

but idk if my cooling can handle it

pale quartz
#

RDNA3 won't be coming out till the end of 2022/q1 2023

prime jasper
#

oof

#

i might just sell my pc and buy a 3090 rig

pale quartz
#

it's a next generation GPU, kind of what happens

hearty roost
#

Could be shown with luck december but I guess again around mai/juni. Released late 2022 or even 2023.

pale quartz
#

3090s today will be worth under $300 once it comes out

prime jasper
#

FR?

pale quartz
#

utter hot tier trash cans

#

yes

prime jasper
#

damn

#

300$

pale quartz
#

they are inefficient space heaters when RDNA3 comes around the price will crash (assuming there's no shortage)

prime jasper
#

should i keep my 3060 ti or wait for rdna3

#

or upgrade to like a 3070 or 3080

pale quartz
#

I mean do what you think is best not my decision

prime jasper
#

idk cuz if this rdna3 will

#

be as good as u say it is

hearty roost
#

Right now keep. prices currently are way to high and still rising again

pale quartz
#

it's a multi chip module, 2 GPU cores in one die

#

extraordinary in its capabilities

#

this type of thing has been experimented with for years it was always the end goal which GPU designers were aiming for, it's only now it's arriving

prime jasper
#

is amd drivers more reliable than nvidia?

pale quartz
#

well, I mean

#

look around who's complaining about 2042 performance

#

certainly not AMD users

hearty roost
#

Performance wise on 2042 yes.

prime jasper
#

yea true

pale quartz
#

game runs flawlessly on my 6800xt I'm very glad what DICE have accomplished

hearty roost
#

Overall the last time I looked was amd 1.2% infront of Nvidia on reliability. At the end you could say both is bad

lunar dawn
#

but thats to be expected

pale quartz
#

tldr of the story, drivers are not easy to develop

prime jasper
#

what would you pick though? because nvidia has reflex and dlss and rtx and all that stuff, but amd really dosent

hearty roost
#

But I give AMD currently more props. Doing FreeSync for Nvidia cards, FSR too for old Nvidia cards.

pale quartz
#

I mean RTX runs mostly terribly on any FPS games, if you play control or something, it's worthy for consideration

lunar dawn
#

i thought nvidia drivers were good on windows and bad on linux and opposite for amd

pale quartz
#

DLSS doesn't matter for high end GPUs, it's for mid tier performance

hearty roost
#

Ray Tracing is 10 years to early for consumers.

prime jasper
#

ah

pale quartz
#

I've had both AMD and Nvidia I can safely say both are as "bad" as each other

#

as in, fine, kinda they're drivers

prime jasper
#

i just upgraded from a rx560x laptop to a pc with a 3060ti just to play battlefield lol

pale quartz
#

AMDs driver featureset is leagues ahead of Nvidia its not even close

quick locust
#

Nvidia drivers on linux are mostly fine now

pale quartz
#

CAS and inbuilt hardware overclocking is a god send

quick locust
#

I do want them foss but w/e

prime jasper
#

ill just go watch battlefield streams until new drivers come out

pale quartz
#

Nvidia still using their 2008 control panel design

#

if you're dependent on CUDA then use Nvidia

#

tldr

shadow bone
#

i keep getting a direct x function error

pale quartz
#

DLSS only matters on like a 3070 or below once you hit 3080 or above tiers you're just degrading image quality for near no improvement

hearty roost
#

What does Nvidia currently, what AMD does bad. Capturing, hat only problems with ReLive (but could be the Vega64) RTX Voice and this stuff is fancy but not important. Ray Tracing well its "2nd gen" already. DLSS jez we all remember 1.0

pale quartz
#

Nvidia have a lot of features that matter, not to gamers but productivity users

prime jasper
#

if amd gets like nvidia reflex and nvidia low latency and the customizability its gonna be better

pale quartz
#

their RT cores are computational machines which is why you've got rtx voice and whatever

storm osprey
prime jasper
pale quartz
#

Nvidia reflex is a closed off library it will never be compatible with AMD cards

prime jasper
#

no like

#

if amd

pale quartz
#

or intel cards

prime jasper
#

makes their own spin off of

#

nvidia reflex

pale quartz
#

there's no point

prime jasper
#

why

pale quartz
#

RDNA2 is already a raster machine AMD making their own version of reflex is just wasting resources

storm osprey
#

dlss is the only way i got 60+ fps in saint denis in rdr 2 with mostly high graphic settings, before i easily dropped below 45 fps, and in rdr2 it actually made it clearer too

hearty roost
#

Reflex isn`t really worth btw.

pale quartz
#

^

prime jasper
#

damn

hearty roost
#

In Rainbow Six Siege is it one more useless feature you can activate.

pale quartz
#

that's the whole problem with upscaling technology

#

FSR included

hushed trail
#

Any one got frame rate issues? running a gtx 1080?

storm osprey
#

ah, thats how it read imo

prisma anvil
#

I think Ocing ur ram is the play rn

#

this is warzone 2.0

#

128 pvp

pale quartz
#

?

prisma anvil
#

game scales with ram latency

pale quartz
#

all games do

#

2042 and warzone aren't exceptions

prisma anvil
#

I know lol but u see drastic improvement

pale quartz
#

though overclocking is not a way to reduce your latency

#

it increases it

hearty roost
#

^ in rdr2 btw.

prisma anvil
#

ram latency OCing reduces it

pale quartz
#

it does not

storm osprey
prisma anvil
#

my ram is at 4000 cl15 from 3600 cl16

pale quartz
#

increasing the frequency of your memory means you have looser timings

#

unless you plug in subtimings

prisma anvil
#

of course u have to

#

lol

pale quartz
#

and latency is dictated by timings not the frequency

#

you've also got the FCLK and whatever

hearty roost
#

DDR5 Timings aPES_LulLaugh What is currently common cl32 was the last time the best after I searched for ddr5.

prisma anvil
#

yeah gear 1 for intel and infinity fabric for amd

#

I got my latency down to 38ns in aida tuning the samsung Bdie

pale quartz
#

once you enter 2:1 bounds on overclocking your latency takes a massive penalty

#

gl reducing that unless you're going 5000MHz

prisma anvil
#

I also got a 5600x down to 56ns running 3733 cl15 1:1:1

#

that tune took me awhile lol

pale quartz
#

must be some decent bin then

prisma anvil
#

Bdie

quick locust
#

I have 39 ns

pale quartz
#

CPU bin

#

not memory bin

prisma anvil
#

most zen3 do 3733

pale quartz
#

they don't, it's highly unstable for silver bins

prisma anvil
#

around 3800 is what I called good bin

pale quartz
#

and 50% of the market is made up of silver and below bins

prisma anvil
#

people can do 3600 cl14 tho

#

ez

#

bdie of course

quick locust
#

I could try 3700 but my board and imc probably aren't great

pale quartz
#

they can 3600 is guaranteed 1:1 on the FCLK

#

going past that it isnt

#

and certainly not 3733 on most chips

prisma anvil
#

u tested them?

pale quartz
#

yes

prisma anvil
#

weird so did I

pale quartz
#

I've got a 5900x hitting 1:1 on 3733 isn't happening on mine

prisma anvil
#

:C

pale quartz
#

and neither is it for the majority

prisma anvil
#

i did about 1 5900X 2 5600X and 1 5800X

#

shout out to my friends prebuilt PC company letting me go ham

pale quartz
#

I mean I'm going by analysis not my own samples which is like 6000 Zen 3 processors

prisma anvil
#

ryzen is good tho

verbal cliff
#

Cpu is ryzen 5 3600 and I’m using 32 gbs of ram

#

Whenever I change my xmp settings to anything above 3000 mhz

left musk
#

hmm im running a ryzen 5 3600 with a 5700XT gpu and i lag so much

verbal cliff
#

Pc crashes alot

left musk
#

im dropping from 70 frames to 20 non stop

prisma anvil
#

I am going by the spreadsheet in the overclocking discord

prime jasper
#

theres rly nothing u can do

pale quartz
#

which discord?

left musk
#

so its not my gpu ?

prime jasper
#

yea

#

i have 3060 ti im getting an unstable 40 fps

pale quartz
#

also, don't use that dataset as a basis for this

prisma anvil
#

Overclocking discord

pale quartz
#

those people are aware of how to overclock well

#

we're talking majority of the market

prime jasper
#

@left musk whats your usage in task manager

left musk
#

@prime jasper its crazy, 1440p, all low

prime jasper
#

same dude

pale quartz
#

which are inexperienced people who barely know how to turn on their machine

left musk
#

97% to 50% to 98%

#

its jumping non stop

prime jasper
#

mine is

#

going from

#

30% to 15% to 9%

prisma anvil
#

true haha I became one of them

hearty roost
#

I am already happy that my 2700x can run cl 16 3200mhz ram without issues. Some friends on my destiny 2 clan having issue to even run 3000mhz for some 3000 series Ryzen.

prime jasper
#

what gpu do u have @left musk

left musk
#

AMD radeon 5700 XT

#

you ?

prime jasper
#

3060 ti

pale quartz
#

most people don't even know what PBO does nevermind something like tFAW for subtimings or memory binning

prime jasper
#

wait for the day 1 drivers

#

and optimization for 2042

prisma anvil
#

Oh I know

left musk
#

eh i doubt it will fix anything

prime jasper
#

for me it will

left musk
#

amd sucks

pale quartz
prime jasper
#

cuz i downloaded the new driver

left musk
#

i shoulda went with nvidia

pale quartz
#

it was released this week

prisma anvil
#

I told them you are on samsung c die cause 4.32 and they said I have corsair not samsung

hearty roost
#

Yes AMD has a driver

prime jasper
#

it absolutely destroyed my gpu

left musk
#

@pale quartz AMD drivers ?

pale quartz
#

yes

prisma anvil
#

🤣

left musk
#

yea i think i have it already

hearty roost
#

but you need to download it manual

pale quartz
#

it is an optional driver

hearty roost
#

It is an optinal driver

pale quartz
#

you'll need to download it

left musk
#

its not through the Radeon Software ?

pale quartz
hearty roost
#

Adrenalin 21.11.2 Optional <--- go for this

prisma anvil
#

rev E is still good tho

left musk
#

yea i got that one

prime jasper
#

OOOF

left musk
#

thanks @hearty roost

pale quartz
#

i despised b die for its ghost bin quality

prime jasper
#

i was having so much fun on 2042

pale quartz
#

there's no standard for which any of it can be good or bad

#

it's just a lottery

prisma anvil
#

I got C die to 42.5ns on 10700k b4

prime jasper
#

all of this could have been avoided if i didnt download that shitty ass driver bro

prisma anvil
#

idk how I did it

pale quartz
#

least e die was semi guaranteed

hearty roost
prime jasper
prisma anvil
#

I see e die at 3600 CL16 bin

prime jasper
#

same thing

#

used ddu

#

twice

prisma anvil
#

corsair version 3.31

pale quartz
prime jasper
#

like u said

hearty roost
#

yeah its again like a 50/50 chance to get it work

prisma anvil
#

nice

pale quartz
#

16-16-16-38

prisma anvil
#

That an insane bin for edie

pale quartz
#

pretty tight at XMP I've managed to clock it to 4000CL16

#

tRFC takes a massive penalty but was fun to do

prisma anvil
#

yeah bdie tRFC is OP

hearty roost
#

And I am like happy about my G.Skill dual kit. working on 16-16-16-38 on 3200 lol

pale quartz
#

yeah unfortunately you can't have both tRFC and frequency

#

one or the other

#

micron just chose the latter

#

bare in mind this is a 4 DIMM kit aswell

prisma anvil
#

same

#

I am on 4 DIMM

hearty roost
#

yes you stupid luck head xD

prisma anvil
#

it looks pretty

#

HAHAHAHA

#

I know it OCs worse

pale quartz
#

I had vengeance before what an atrocious kit

#

Corsair pulling a fast one

prisma anvil
#

mine is vengence :C

#

dont roast my ram

pale quartz
#

yeah fun fact did you know Corsair randomise their dies for vengeance

prisma anvil
#

oh yeah I know

pale quartz
#

none of them are the same

prisma anvil
#

I looked at about 30 kits

quick locust
#

I run 4x8 3600 MT/s 14 14 14 28

pale quartz
#

it's a total joke I bought 4 kits and each of them had different dies

left musk
#

yea im about to give up on the game

pale quartz
#

yeah

prisma anvil
#

Thats peak

pale quartz
#

fucking moronic

#

Samsung c die b die micron rev e etc

prisma anvil
#

they also mislabelled samsung c die to b die

pale quartz
#

garbage bins aswell despise what Corsair did

prisma anvil
#

4.31 my azz lol

#

tried 3 sets none can do 3200 cl15

pale quartz
#

oh and get this their bin quality is different based on the colour of the kit!

#

white is better on average than black

prisma anvil
#

really?

pale quartz
#

most stupid dumbest thing ive ever seen

#

yeah

prisma anvil
#

I had the opposite

pale quartz
#

black has mostly b die, but that's the problem

prisma anvil
#

maybe its a f all

pale quartz
#

most of them are atrocious

prisma anvil
#

black are all C die

#

at 3200cl16 and 3600 cl18

pale quartz
#

not all, vengeance has different revisions

hearty roost
#

Right now I know why I dont want to buy Corsair for my upcoming 5800x next month lol. I knew that corsair does weird shit but reading it makes it worse again

prisma anvil
#

sorry form my experience

pale quartz
#

the kit was redone like 3 times its a goddamn joke what Corsair were pulling

#

swapping out the dies with "newer models"

hearty roost
#

Guess I still stick with G.Skill

prisma anvil
#

G.skill u get what u pay for

#

corsair u get 85% screwed over and 15% lucky

pale quartz
#

I dislike what g skill do with their timing marketing but AT LEAST you're guaranteed a decent die

#

and not this rabbit out of a hat shit

quick locust
#

Lul

prisma anvil
#

inb4 people buy hynix djr 4400mhz ram jk

quick locust
#

My previous kit was 2666 cl 18 22 22

#

Iirc

#

Current 3600 14 14 14 28

pale quartz
#

"oh what's that you got a shitty die through our lottery hat for a product that can't even guarantee XMP timing stability on half their kits? deal with it! sucker!" - Corsair basically

#

and no that's not an exaggeration either

#

the vengeance kits the really shitty bins do not qualify for the advertised XMP rating

hearty roost
#

Alternatively I look as well for Ballistix. RGB makes me sick now days. But non RGB sticks of G.Skill are looking weird in my eyes

prisma anvil
#

vengeance pro rgb i think its fine but vengence is a joke

#

Crucial is basically micron dies and micron is pretty good.

#

most of their dies

quick locust
#

I have silver red non rgb trident

pale quartz
#

team group is, well, the best of the best, but you're paying for it too

#

their kits are custom tuned according to the bin you don't get that with ballistix g skill etc

#

90% of their bins are the highest binned Samsung b die that even exist it's quite something what those kits can achieve

prisma anvil
#

the OC channel is raving about OLOy Blade rgb

#

cheap price 3200 cl14-14-14-34 bdie

pale quartz
#

that kit has decent ICs, haven't tested them for myself to find out though

#

pretty sure they're dual rank too

prisma anvil
#

they straight up did flat 14s

hearty roost
prisma anvil
#

thats confidence maybe LOL

pale quartz
#

they sell "normal" memory too where that doesn't factor in

#

avoid them if you've never done overclocking basically they're useless to most consumers

prisma anvil
#

I tell the rich 5950x prebuilt owners to get 3600cl14 and turn xmp on

#

🙃

pale quartz
#

lmao if you're getting a 5950x prebuilt you defo should be paying for that bin too

prisma anvil
#

yeah the amount of people get 5950x +3090 is crazy

#

they got the $$$

pale quartz
#

I've done 2 of those builds before

#

one was a rich friend of mine highest specced rig I ever built

#

RAID'd Samsung 4.0 drives it was nuts what the numbers were at was like 11.2GB/s on the I/O

prisma anvil
#

DAMN

pale quartz
#

yeah bare in mind this guy was buying a chg90 aswell

#

just the total blitz of anything premium

#

other was a 3090/5950x with a crosshair VIII formula, expensive build but didn't compare to the first guys build

prisma anvil
#

tell him go upgrade to a dark hero JK

quick locust
#

Wonder if supermicro has shown their z690 yet

pale quartz
quick locust
#

No seems not

pale quartz
#

watch theirs ditch PCIe 5.0 aswell

quick locust
#

Probably not

#

Usually only make 2 boards per gen but with most features

pale quartz
#

nah it was because Asus ditched theirs for the z690

quick locust
#

Not that 5.0 is useful rn for consumers

pale quartz
#

wdym ofc it is its an excellent marketing opportunity

quick locust
#

Not yet anyway

pale quartz
#

just relabel pcie 4.0 drives to 5.0 and charge them an extra $100 for the 1.0 number increase

quick locust
#

You can do nvlink without bridge

#

For the 5 people

#

Otherwise nothing really

#

Yet

pale quartz
quick locust
#

Their last gen board

pale quartz
wet notch
#

like tv

quick locust
#

What

#

Bruh

pale quartz
#

bad take 101

quick locust
#

Ok have this biostar z690 then

pale quartz
#

LOL

quick locust
#

Colours

pale quartz
#

can't wait for it to hit 110 degrees!

wet notch
#

now we're talkin

quick locust
#

Hm

#

Biostar didn't drop pcie 5

#

Expected them to

pale quartz
#

excellent it can now hit 150 degrees and start a fire

#

can't wait to see overclocked e cores on that board cause the board to smoke

quick locust
#

Lul

#

Hm

#

Dell z690

#

Wonder if they made one yet

#

Huh

#

At least their a-pro boards don't seem as bad as before

#

Still meh but not horrid

oblique field
#

Hey

pale quartz
oblique field
#

No

#

I have a good of but my cpu usage is at 90% if I want to start a game. Then my pc freezes.

#

Me?

pale quartz
#

oh

#

nvm it was the deleted msg

oblique field
#

?

oblique field
#

I wrote an message but it still keeps deleting here. Wtf

midnight crypt
#

Are you linking something?

oblique field
#

No

pale quartz
#

it's probably a filter word

#

just say what your CPU is

oblique field
#

Yea wait

midnight crypt
#

Ye

oblique field
#

Can’t send screenshot😅

#

I have a good of but my cpu usage is at 90% if I want to start a game. Then my pc freezes. I only got this in bf games nowhere else. In bf 5 I fixed it with an (.c f g) file. In the Beta of 2042 it was because of wallpaper engine. I tried both but it’s still there. (My pc: r5 5600x, 16gb 3200 ram, wd black m.2 ssd, rtx 3060)

#

It was . c f g. Wtf

pale quartz
#

high utilisation is normal you're thread bound, check task manager for background applications which are taking up CPU resources when the game is open

oblique field
#

Already did. Trust me I did everything and know pcs. But this is strange

pale quartz
#

you might "know pcs", what you probably aren't aware of is that it does not report the actual utilisation

oblique field
#

I closed every background task. Did clean start. Newest drivers. Reinstalled direct x.

pale quartz
#

that's not possible

#

I'm not talking about foreground applications

oblique field
#

I know

pale quartz
#

so you closed every single application on your machine even ones which were stored in memory?

oblique field
#

In taskmaster at Autostart. Everything to deactivate

#

Not „everything“

#

But programs like stream deck, Logitech, power toys, free shot. All closed

pale quartz
#

which is why I was trying to tell you before

#

you'll need to use resource manager

oblique field
#

And then?

#

As I said, it’s only in bf games. Nowhere else

pale quartz
#

you won't find that on task manager

oblique field
#

Where can I find that?

pale quartz
#

also, upgrade your chipset drivers and make sure you've got the L3 cache patch installed

oblique field
#

U know a lot of pcs right😅

oblique field
#

Thanks

pale quartz
#

from the sounds of things youre on windows 11 so that will patch your CPPC2 issue which might fix your problem

oblique field
#

I’m on 10

pale quartz
#

oh, install it anyways

oblique field
#

I will try what you said Tomorrow. Thank you for helping. Can I dm you if it worked or not?

pale quartz
#

i would advise against using powertoys on windows 10, the stack is made to be compatible mostly with 11

pale quartz
oblique field
#

Ok, maybe you see it if I @ you

left musk
#

@pale quartz can you help me later with my stuttering?

vapid estuary
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That sounds so wrong

pale quartz
left musk
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Fps stuttering

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Oki

prime jasper
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can anyone help me with this error? if you respond/dm ill send you the screen shot. PLEASE, BRO PLEASE i need help

pastel sparrow
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Do you guys have DLSS on or off?

desert fern
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Anyone know what the error icon is with a bunch of squares inside eachother like this:


| _______
| _______
|_______|

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Oh wow that did not work out quite right haha

 ______
|__ ______
   |__  _______
       |_______|
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^that's a little bettter

left musk
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Its not an error

desert fern
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is it a packet loss icon or low fps or something? My fps isn't great but it hangs around 30ish at minimum

left musk
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Is it spiking and causing you stutters ?

verbal cliff
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server issue

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was everyone ingame lagging and crying in the chat?

wide tree
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are you guys able to use ps4 controllers on pc for battlefield 2042?

verbal cliff
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yes my older brother was using one

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works fine for him

wide tree
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is he using some kind of third party program or something?

verbal cliff
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no

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he only uses ds4 for halo

honest bison
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guys there is a solution for low gpu usage

prime jasper
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its nvidias and battlefields fault

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im having the same problem as you

edgy hinge
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anyone find any settings to boost fps

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i have a 2070 super and im locked at like 60 most of the time

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not a fan of dlss or whatever

crude furnace
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i have problem where u find a game and its counting down to join match but nothing happens and u have to q for a game again
i played with a vpn and it fixed that issue is it a problem wiht my ip address?

honest bison
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You need to change some settings inside the games file

prime jasper
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what is it

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pls say