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autumn hollow
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hehehehe

vast valley
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AMD has worked before for me in the past.

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/shrug

opaque saddle
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What I was referring is, the manufacturer have tested the exact ram with the exact build, then they put a check mark on it

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If it doesn’t work, that will be a RMA part

autumn hollow
pale quartz
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not exactly

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they only test motherboard compatibility

latent light
pale quartz
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it isn't compatibility for it to work

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different things

autumn hollow
pale quartz
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memory bins are highly dependent on the CPU itself actually moreso than the main board

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the main board is only tested to ensure voltage stability and that's about all

latent light
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LGA1700 socket apparently will support more than 2 generations this time

opaque saddle
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Nope. You seems to misunderstand. The look through motherboard compatibility list is a way to secure the system will work, or should work with the same parts. If it doesn’t work, contact your motherboard manufacturers

latent light
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LGA1700 could extend out to Lunar Lake

pale quartz
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a hardware certification on a motherboard =/= the system will work

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manufacturers make this explicitly clear because this is literally impossible to guarantee

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the IMC is onboard the CPU, not the main board which is going to be the final judge of if the system is going to work, not the voltage LLC regulators on the board

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and no IMC is going to push 4200MHz at some crazy CAS of 17 or something on some mediocre tier bin CPU

latent light
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My cheap first gen Ryzen B350 motherboard says up to 4200 MHz memory OC lol

pale quartz
latent light
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Gigabyte has jokes

pale quartz
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consider yourself lucky it didn't catch on fire

vast valley
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So yeah, I'm not smart when it comes to building PCs - I just know that I have a budget. Under $1k USD.

This is the build I came up with. That's why I was asking, do I go with the 5600G or the 5700G?

I didn't mean to start a debate.

vast valley
pale quartz
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eh I mean you're talking 25% more cores for what $70

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may aswell get the 5700g

latent light
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8 core CPU is always gonna have more longevity than a 6 core

pale quartz
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price to parity there's a 5% price reduction on the 5700g core for core so it ends up being the better value part

latent light
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5700G also has 1 extra CU for the iGPU

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Or 2 more idr

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I wish Ryzen APUs didn't have the L3 cache slashed in half but I think it's required to fit iGPU

pale quartz
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bit of both

opaque saddle
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Well. A friend of mine owns a 5000 series Ryzen 5 and bought the ram outside of the compatibility list a few months ago. It did not work at all coz he also inserted 4 DIMM

pale quartz
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they could fit 32MB onboard but they never will

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the desktop class parts are irrelevant if they do

latent light
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Yeah lol

quick locust
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i run quad 3600 cl14

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is nice

latent light
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They want to have iGPU on all Zen 4 SKUs

pale quartz
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think the highest I pushed my micron e-die was 4400MHz at cas 17 without adjusting subtimings

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declocked it soon after

quick locust
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I can't go above 3733 on this board

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Neither could Buildzoid which I asked about it

pale quartz
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b die?

quick locust
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So I just lowered timings

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Yeah

pale quartz
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yeahh common problem

quick locust
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hm apparently linux gaming has troubles with ADL E cores

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intel, update the scheduler

latent light
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Disable E cores

vapid estuary
supple bane
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if its offering no/less performance

autumn hollow
coarse nimbus
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that 12600k though 👀

latent light
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16 cores per chiplet

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Zen 4D was already leaked months ago anyway

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Already know Zen 3D is gonna at least match Intel 12th gen when it comes to gaming

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192MB of L3 cache on 6950X

coarse nimbus
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will those be made at the same factory making the chips for the older gen cpu/console stuff? WoahThink

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or is it a different design

latent light
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Raptor-Lake is gonna double the E-cores to 16 and add hyperthreading to them, not very big IPC gain afaik

pulsar sentinel
magic terrace
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Companies are already developing ram kits hitting 8000+ Mhz, should be getting real interesting by 2023 when shortages start to ease up aswell

lofty light
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What's the common consensus on the new Mac processors?

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Looks pretty darn great performance wise compared to the power usage

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If windows ARM supported DX12 and more anti cheats then I'd jump on an M1 Max for light gaming

willow haven
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i’m vibing with a Intel(R) Core(tm)2 Duo 6600 SL9S8 Malay 2.4ghz/4M/1066/06 L637A853

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gamer cpu

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could run anything at 240fps

toxic wigeon
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How good was the lancool pc k62?

magic terrace
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judging by the first google result I got, mixed, good features, pain to work with.

lofty light
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Mac's are great gaming machines

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It's better to buy a max spec Mac Pro than buy a stinky windows machine

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Imagine building your own when you can send money to Apple

opaque saddle
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Keen to hear what Apple can come up with their Mac Pro line up next year or perhaps a year after

young tiger
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i got a threadripper cpu, is it any good?

pale quartz
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yes lol

hidden pumice
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no its bad

mystic oyster
marsh gull
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i was interested in it until i saw the price of z690 motherboards

marsh gull
lofty light
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How dare you, I'm nothing if not 100% serious all the time

marsh gull
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lmao

hidden pumice
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5800x vs 10700k?

thin iron
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10700k little better

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For gaming

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Oc better, little better perf in games.

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But

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5800x have pciex4 and smart acces memory if u have amd gpu

pulsar sentinel
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Third-party gaming compatibility layers are more supported there.

pale quartz
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but it's cheaper

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take your pick

lofty light
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I just wish I could see into the future and how good windows ARM gaming will get

storm whale
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Guys should I refund battlefield cause I have 1650

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Ti

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And don't think it will run well

strong breach
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Minimum requirement is a GTX 1550ti

storm whale
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Yee

strong breach
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but i can understand the worry as 1650 is nearly as powerful as 1550ti

storm whale
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True

strong breach
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excuse me 1050ti*

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1550ti doesn't exist

storm whale
fresh lily
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wait a 1550ti doesnt exist

storm whale
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I am very confused

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And worried won't run

fresh lily
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a 1650 is lik 3 % faster than a 1050ti

storm whale
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True

strong breach
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1050ti runs BFV about 80-100fps on all Low settings 1080p

fresh lily
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but thats not 2042

strong breach
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so expect pretty equal performance on a 1650

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there's no benchmarks for 2042

fresh lily
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there are for beta they werent good

storm whale
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Ye

thin iron
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On bfV i have 150fps ultra and on 2042 only 70-80

storm whale
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My game was like 30 to 45 fps on lowest in beta

strong breach
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Beta hasn't been properly optimized, i remember getting about 40fps on my 1070 in the BFV beta

rotund swift
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yo im broke so im gaming on Vega 8 gfx. And im on 40 - 63 fps on BFV xD

strong breach
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for example

fresh lily
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yeah we cant say anything till the day 1 patch

thin iron
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And the framerate stay at this range even if i dropped quality

fresh lily
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thats called a cpu bottleneck my guy

thin iron
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Even with a 3060ti and 5600x 4,7ghz

strong breach
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I would expect at least +60fps on a 1650 on 1080p all low

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but as mentioned before, can't really predit anything for certain

thin iron
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I litteraly bought new gpu for this game so yeah i hope good perf

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Cause this game is amazing i broke the beta period

pulsar sentinel
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Though obviously, hardware support is not going to be as good as those who have made their stuffs open source, such as AMD.

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Linux support for Apple Silicon isn't complete yet, but it is being worked on by the people at the Asahi Linux team.

quick locust
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Get out of their server room

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No trespassing

delicate reef
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I went overboard

quick locust
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Nice

random meteor
raw turtle
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i’m actually not sure what caused that

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GPU usage is extremely low during it

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i get nearly the same FPS on med-hugh

latent light
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900 fps CSGO

marsh gull
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hm and its useless

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therss only 390hz monitors

toxic zealot
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In reality its close to 5950x

sacred portal
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hey

midnight crypt
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no

sacred portal
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does anyone know how to redownload battlefield via origin

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like to a new pc

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without the external drive or smth

midnight crypt
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log into where ever you bought it

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click download

sacred portal
latent light
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$150 off for 5800X at microcenter

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This is fake btw, Der8auer was talking about it

viscid rapids
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i saw der8auer the other day in his nissan gtr

honest bison
coarse nimbus
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In store only though rightSadCatThumb

latent light
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Imagine not living close to microcenter OMEGALUL

coarse nimbus
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2 hours is close... right? CatBeSad

latent light
proud trellis
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i believe the nearest microcenter by me is an 8 hour flight away

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probs longer

latent light
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I go to MC in dallas

prime jasper
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I got a rtx 3080 for msrp

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At Newegg

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Not liying

livid harness
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I’m currently in a 34 minute queue for a PS5

frigid wharf
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So here I am again. Still fighting to obtain network. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. By all means don't be afraid to ping me. I would greatly appreciate to get this headache resolved.

midnight crypt
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Do you use an expansion card or something?

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For ethernet

frigid wharf
midnight crypt
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Have you done some of the fixes Google suggests?

frigid wharf
# midnight crypt Have you done some of the fixes Google suggests?

Had the blue screen of death. Windows error was Overclock_Watchdog_Error. Was told to re-install windows 10 and that got this running again and back to normal. Now after window was installed. My device can not detect network. Gone through device manager and what not. Downloaded all drivers from my motherboard and not able to detect anything.

midnight crypt
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have you tried a simple reinstall of the card and a driver update?

frigid wharf
midnight crypt
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you shouldve tried the easy fixes in windows before doing a complete nuking

frigid wharf
midnight crypt
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is that the first thing they recommended?

frigid wharf
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yes

midnight crypt
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wow

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what an idiot

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that support guy was

frigid wharf
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On the waiting list right now to contact tech support again.

midnight crypt
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i can recommend resetting your bios settings atleast cause that error is usually associated with unstable overclocks

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could be ram or gpu related

frigid wharf
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at this point i'll try anything

frigid wharf
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I think I fixed it. Got access to internet now and detected my GPU

midnight crypt
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if you did reset your bios settings

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you might wanna flip on xmp again

frigid wharf
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With the motherboard drivers ran and installed all application and picked up network

lunar dawn
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just free performance basically

frigid wharf
midnight crypt
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yes

frigid wharf
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Sweet, just making sure. Thank you again bud.

vast valley
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@cursive flicker

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Mind you, this is just a build to get in the door. The APU will work. I can always upgrade later with a newer discrete GPU

cursive flicker
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@vast valley where's your gpu

vast valley
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The cpu has integrated

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Again, this is barebones until I can afford $800USD for a damn 3060

cursive flicker
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Yea, got them scalper prices

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otherwise that looks like a nice starter build

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Good choice of case too

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I've been meaning to switch to a fractal meshify at some point

vast valley
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Yeah, scalpers can kiss my ass

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Lol

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And, when I get the money to buy the gpu, I'll probably be ready to buy a 5700x or something similar

cursive flicker
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Just make sure when you have everything you don't have any compatibility issues

vast valley
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I've looked at this same build with a 5700x & the 3060

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All is good

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If anything, I might just get a 1060ti or something

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To go with the cpu

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Thoughts?

cursive flicker
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Honestly i would wait until you can afford something you'll be happy with, i wouldn't go for a 10 series card at this stage

vast valley
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Like, run the 1050ti along side the 5600G

cursive flicker
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I think you'll find if you buy a 10 series you might be disappointed

vast valley
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Well, I mean, the 5600G isn't that great.. it runs New World, on low, at like 40fps

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Though it runs GTA V at like 110fps

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It's just a base build

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Very entry level

cursive flicker
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I guess my point is do your research and make sure you'll be happy with what you build

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and aslong as everything is compatible, it'll be happy days for everyone

prime jasper
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I can’t play monopoly plus Why

cursive flicker
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What i usually do is benchmark the GPU's i'm looking at and compare performance per price point for the area i'm looking at

toxic wigeon
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AMD has some pretty good cards

vast valley
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Yeah. I was thinking the same thing.. then I saw the price point of the 3060 & the 1660.. might as well just buy the 3060

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Shiiiit. Microcenter's MSRP for 3060s is under $500USD.

tawdry python
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Guys, I am using Asus Tuf Gaming Laptop with 8gb ram GTX 1650Ti 144Hz display... But my fps is stuck at 60... Can it get any better?

cursive flicker
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0

tawdry python
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Battlefield 5

pale quartz
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just to be clear, a 1650 is never hitting that framerate

tawdry python
pale quartz
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can it? sure, does it mean it's actually going to go above 60? no

chrome rock
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Check ur vsync

near rune
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Check that your monitor is running at 144hz

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And turn off vsync

tawdry python
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Okkk @chrome rock @near rune

dire steeple
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170/300 usd to my series s

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just want to get it so 2042 looks nice

verbal cliff
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1440p 240hz

midnight crypt
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You wont hit those framerates in 2042

hardy cape
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Does anyone here know the best way to get an Xbox series X? I can’t seem to find one under $700

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I really want one in order to buy 2042 lol

midnight crypt
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Check online if a store has local stock

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Or call and ask

hardy cape
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Yeah thats what I’ve been doing

nova shell
hardy cape
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I should’ve said that lol

nova shell
hardy cape
idle flower
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i7 10700f 4.6ghz a asus rog strix rtx 3070 oc
and 16gb ram 3200mhz what do you guys think about my build?

midnight crypt
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Horrible

idle flower
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how

honest bison
idle flower
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tnx

honest bison
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Now, make sure to get a 144 hz display^

idle flower
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its a 2k 240 samsung so i think im good

honest bison
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i got a 3440x1440p 144hz one with a rtx 3080 and I get good frames in all games even at 1440p. 1080p will become less relevant with next gens of gpus

honest bison
idle flower
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cant wait for the game

lunar dawn
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1440 240hz since 360hx is pointless

lunar dawn
idle flower
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the cpu is locked so i dont think its possible i think its on 3200mhz on default cus its saying 3200mhz on task manager

coarse nimbus
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that setting in the bios is locked out if the cpu isnt OC-able?

idle flower
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yep sux a

atomic bough
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Hey, my battlefield 4 crashes 5 seconds after I open it can someone help me?

vapid estuary
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did u try reinstalling

delicate gull
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will a i7-3770 and a B75M-D3V run a 1060 6gb

midnight crypt
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Yes

delicate gull
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ok thx

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will it run normally or have problems?

pale quartz
delicate gull
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what problems

pale quartz
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instability, frame drops, the usual

delicate gull
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i have a friend who has a i7-3700 and a 1060 6gb and he was running the beta at 60 fps

pale quartz
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beta =/= final release

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dont be expecting total stability, pretty much, its very outdated hardware

delicate gull
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it should be better optimized when the full game comes out

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no?

marsh gull
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yes

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but dont expect good preformance at all

pale quartz
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yes it will, it doesnt mean you are going to get good performance

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your hardware is very out of date

marsh gull
pale quartz
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theres no amount of saving that

marsh gull
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you would prob be better off playing older games/titles

delicate gull
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1080p

pale quartz
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probably the lowest settings

delicate gull
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yh

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will it run at 60fps when the full game comes out

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or like 65

pale quartz
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why would we know lol

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just dont be expecting anything pretty much

delicate gull
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it should run at 60 tho if it runs at like 55-65 then its fine

marsh gull
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its good enouph but i recommend getting a newer cpu as the one thing you can upgrade that'll give you more preformance (gpu shortage)

delicate gull
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yh but my pc wont be able to run like a 1650 super or something i dont think

marsh gull
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guys should i pick an i5 11600k or a ryzen 5 5600x (respectively 270usd and 301usd)

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the intel option is cheaper and from what ive heard more powerful but i wanted advice

atomic bough
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I believe the Intel is better

marsh gull
marsh gull
marsh gull
surreal crest
marsh gull
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i dont have the budget for a 300usd mobo and 200usd ddr5 ram

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so im getting "old gen"

surreal crest
marsh gull
surreal crest
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the cheapest one is 200 usd i believe

marsh gull
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alongside with a 320usd cpu thats over budget i dont have the budget for a 200usd mobo

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i really dont have the budget believe me

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my budget for a mobo is max 160usd

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and thats pushing it

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now if theres a cheaper version of a 12th gen cpu and a 150usd z690 mobo i dont mind buying that but otherwise i really cant afford it

surreal crest
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If you wait, cheaper motherboard options should come out next year along with a cheaper cpu, but that's only if you want to wait

marsh gull
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people who wait all the time for new stuff never end up buying

surreal crest
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otherwise, you can get the 5600x for about 300 usd and some b550 motherboard for 100 usd. There are cheaper last generation motherboards to choose from

marsh gull
marsh gull
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what do you think of this

marsh gull
marsh gull
surreal crest
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wouldn't say less powerful, more so that it trades blows

marsh gull
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tru but its cheaper so

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and heat output and electricity consumption arent really a problem

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im getting a 750w psu and a msi AIO with it so i dont really care about that

surreal crest
marsh gull
surreal crest
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unless you plan to OC

marsh gull
marsh gull
surreal crest
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what is your budget?

marsh gull
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1200usd

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this parts list id without the gpu

surreal crest
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do you already have a gpu? ok

marsh gull
marsh gull
surreal crest
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define "good" deal

marsh gull
surreal crest
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that's funny

marsh gull
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or 500usd for two 2080s

surreal crest
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you're never going to see that

marsh gull
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no but its a physical purchase not an online delivery

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i can check

surreal crest
marsh gull
surreal crest
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people sell rx 580s for 300-500

surreal crest
marsh gull
surreal crest
marsh gull
surreal crest
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and what's the used gpu market like there

marsh gull
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most of the time its a bit pricey but you can find 2-3 good deals per week on pretty decent gpus

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and the sellers are certified and well-reviewed

surreal crest
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you'd be better off spending the money on a better gpu

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or using some of it for a better cpu

marsh gull
marsh gull
cyan token
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What headsets most of you guys using

marsh gull
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razer blackshark v2

marsh gull
marsh gull
surreal crest
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No one's picky as long as they can get a gpu

marsh gull
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i dont care whether i get a 2070 super, 2080/super/ti 3060/ti as long as its not over 400usd

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or 500usd if im pushing it

marsh gull
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is this parts list good?

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the ram is for my current build and i already have storage

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gaming, value...

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like is there anything i should tweak or change/replace?

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gonna buy it seperatly but for now its gonna be my current 1650 super

livid harness
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So what would be a good build for a 3060 RTX PC?

marsh gull
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not necessaricly theres a chance it needs one but its not guaranteed

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and im pretty sure a high-end mobo like that one has a bios flash option

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so its not too hard'

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so i should take a 10th gen cpu just to be safe?

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no but ill get a tiny bit more preformance and ill get pcie gen 4 and more m.2 support

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i guess for the same price as for an i5 11600k i can get an i7 10700f

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they are expensive af

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ill just get the i7 10700f tbh

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thx

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its the same price as the i5 11600k and the i5 10600k on amazon so 8 cores is fine by me

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thx i just want it to be supported by the motherboard

honest bison
nova shell
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Gen 4 drives are expensive

nova shell
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Well comparing a gen 4 2TB m.2 nvme drive to a 2TB gen 3 drive that’s when the prices show

surreal crest
marsh gull
marsh gull
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if the base cpu is good enouph theres no point

marsh gull
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lmao yes

storm sierra
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Hey does anyone know how to fix the mouse issue on bf4?
I cant see my mouse in game and neither in the menu. And when i put my mouse to left and right my character does move, but when i click to aim the game doesnt register the click and it clicks on my desktop.

lunar dawn
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in origin settings

near rune
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Disable any overlays

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Like discord overlay

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Msi afterburner etc

delicate gull
marsh gull
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but for now the cpu is the only thing you can upgrade affordingly so go for that

spark elbow
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Hello guys, i got trouble with dx12 in BF V do anyone know how to avoid hard stutter when dx12 activated ? thanks

supple bane
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the solution is dont use dx12

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the dx 12 implementation is really bad in bfv

lunar dawn
spark elbow
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@lunar dawnWell that's what i thought

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i will avoid it then

lunar dawn
spark elbow
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ok

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will try this setup

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i want to avoid stutter first ^^

keen tartan
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will I be able to run bf 2042 even if my pc spec is slightly below the minimum required?

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I have a normal Gtx1050 and a i5 6500

midnight crypt
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You can but dont expect it to run well at all

keen tartan
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ok. all I'm looking for is 60fps at the lowest setting really

supple bane
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Not on a 4 thread cpu

idle flower
keen tartan
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Yeah I should have tried open beta but I missed the opportunity

opal cliff
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I may have already asked and sorry if I have but have dice announced the final system requirements for the game yet?

silent oasisBOT
idle flower
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recommended is for max settings right?

midnight crypt
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no

idle flower
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nice

opal cliff
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We’re those for the open beta though

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Weren’t

midnight crypt
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id imagine they wont change much if at all

opal cliff
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Yeah that’s probably true

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Just really hope the game runs better at launch for me than the beta 😂

dry pike
opal cliff
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Oh okay thanks!

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Crazy to me that a 3060 is recommended

steel dome
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What can i do to prevent high latency variation

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My ping is usually around 50-60 but it shifts frequently

lunar dawn
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anyway always a ethernet cable

steel dome
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cant use that, but many say i should reboot my router/modem so ima try that

surreal crest
short pebble
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V

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When I try to open battlefield 4, I get an error code; missing ddl
heelp pls

surreal crest
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install vcredist_x64.exe. It should be located in your battlefield directory

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Battlefield4__Installer\vc\vc2012Update3\redist\vcredist_x64.exe

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somewhere in that directory

delicate gull
terse stirrup
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One message removed from a suspended account.

prime jasper
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Can blow up buildings in 2042 like u can in 4?

coarse nimbus
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4 has very minimal destruction leo

quick locust
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nice 🙂

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Odd

stable mountain
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get dionised water and a bottle of concentrated aditives?

quick locust
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85% ethanol loop WeSmart

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jk

stable mountain
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just go to autozone man and get some of the preem green stuff

marsh gull
stable mountain
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because his GPU will be to trash

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fine, whatever the fuck you local equivelant is then smartass 😂

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even windshieldwasher fluid?

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you don't run out of fluid in less than a year?

buoyant wedge
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Hey guys, I have some issue with my pc

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The start random pop up and start writing randomly. Etc I watching youtube and the numbers randomly pressed. I make reboot on my C where is the windows but it doesnt help. I format and delete the other partititons still doesnt help.

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Of course the virus searcher programs found nothing

stable mountain
#

maybe a virus that hid itself from the scanner, or a broken keyboard?

buoyant wedge
#

I tried with other keyboard and do the same.. now I unplug the keyboard and wait to see it affect or not

midnight crypt
#

you have a virus

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have fun with that

opaque saddle
#

Use windows defender to scan all viruses or malware

stable mountain
#

if it opens up random pop ups, most likely yeah. your OS install is gone and required a wipe of every drive or a very good antivirus

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and not a pirated copy of AVG

opaque saddle
#

Or it sounds like you have installed some software that is a malware on other drives? Perhaps?

buoyant wedge
buoyant wedge
opaque saddle
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What sort of pop up message is it?

buoyant wedge
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Not pop up message, the windows start pop up

opaque saddle
#

Hmm is your keyboard malfunctioning?

buoyant wedge
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And start writing randomly etc: e1QW

opaque saddle
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Try disconnect your keyboard

buoyant wedge
#

Deleted the keyboard drivers and restart doesnt help too

opaque saddle
#

It sounds really weird to me

buoyant wedge
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Me too

opaque saddle
#

Wait up

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How old is your built?

buoyant wedge
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Half year or less

opaque saddle
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Coz the similar thing happened to me was I plugged the wrong cables into the motherboard slots

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When did it start happening?

buoyant wedge
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2-2,5 weeks. Before its everything fine

opaque saddle
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Can you unplug all USB cables?

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And just wanna confirm which USB ports you were using? Front or back USB?

buoyant wedge
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Yeah, if I unplug its workd, but I need keyboard&mouse of course. I tried with 2 other keyboard, do the same

opaque saddle
#

So if you unplug it, you mean it works? Or it no longer trigger “random typing”

buoyant wedge
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No longer typing randomly

opaque saddle
#

It seems like your motherboard back IO is malfunctioning

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Have you tried front USB IO?

buoyant wedge
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No

opaque saddle
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Please do it

buoyant wedge
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Okey, I need time cuz right now im booting

opaque saddle
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I will have to travel back home. I will have to ride a scooter on road. Will be back in 5-10mins

buoyant wedge
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Okey

opaque saddle
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So how does it looks like

buoyant wedge
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Still rebooting

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I do it, and waiting cca 14 min to show the issue

opaque saddle
#

Seems weird to wait for 14mins to boot up a pc

buoyant wedge
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Not boot

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For the issue show up

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Cuz its randomly

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Its interesting

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Its dont do random typing

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If its plugged in front

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On*

dry pike
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monitor doesn't look level

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triggered

raw turtle
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curved moment

pale quartz
#

they don't have any room to release hence click themselves, it's a defect on the key itself so you'll need to take the caps off to clean it or get a new keyboard

dry pike
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https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/twice-as-powerful-but-double-energy-usage-nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-video-cards.html
I hope this is not true, that's just the "lets build a space heater" approach to PC Hardware development.

delicate reef
pale quartz
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they never have since Turing

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this is for LL SKU 90 not the entire product line

#

3090ti will already spike to near 600W of consumption so this is peanuts

delicate reef
pale quartz
latent light
#

@pale quartz

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AMD Mi200 GPU is a beast

pale quartz
latent light
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128 cores for 'Zen 4c' Bergamo

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Zen 4 + Zen 4c is big.LITTLE

quick locust
#

👍

delicate gull
delicate gull
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Thinking about buying a 1660 super my friend is selling one as he is getting an upgrade

raw turtle
#

how much is he selling it for?

lunar dawn
delicate reef
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Dunno if the effort is justified doing that for a used 1660 lol

vapid estuary
#

shit

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wrong channel soz

midnight crypt
#

its gulag for you

latent light
#

Well Intel 12th gen was short lived lol

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Almost a gigabyte of cache on 4th gen Epyc CPUs

quick locust
latent light
#

Zen 3D better than expected

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Memory leaks are pretty common with M1

delicate gull
delicate reef
latent light
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AMD stock price just hit $150

marsh gull
toxic zealot
#

They will fix it eventually

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And intel will catch up to amd just wait

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their ceo rn is actual engineer

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Not marketing guy

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m1 biggest problem is that dgpus dont have drivers for them yet

surreal crest
#

And even if they could, why would they want a server chip? There's no point for them to have one unless they do huge workloads

pale quartz
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its about intel's HPC market

surreal crest
pale quartz
#

?

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theres no point youre bringing up intel's consumer platform when this isnt about alder lake

surreal crest
pale quartz
#

yes hes talking about the architecture that 12th gen is built for that is used in intel's HPC products lol

surreal crest
pale quartz
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no hes not, the screenshot is clearly referencing AMD's zen 4 HPC market as well as bergamo, dont strawman people

feral star
#

What’s the chances of my laptop surviving water damage

pale quartz
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basically 0

feral star
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Oh fuck

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It was only in the speakers

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Leds are still working

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Well I am screwed probably

toxic tundra
#

My current GPU temperature. It's * Beep *'ing cold in my room.

raw turtle
#

games won’t be optimized to run on mac ever

toxic zealot
stable mountain
lofty light
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M1 Pro max has the potential to be a VERY good laptop for gaming, but it would need apple and windows ARM to make a lot of leaps forward

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I'm still gonna pick one up and blindly hope for the future but it's not very likely

stable mountain
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i mean, there's already games like asphalt and the like squeezing the ARM chips. so plenty is possible

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dunno how well asphalt is programmed tho

lofty light
#

There's a few games that run real nicely on Mac without a VM like dying light, but x86 windows VM performance is nightmare low

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Give me destiny 2 and temtem support and I'm happy mikedeniro

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I assume that's one of the Intel ones though

#

Are you running an eGPU on it?

stable mountain
#

I wonder if apple will also get access to heaps of shovelware now that it can (i think?) natively run IOS apps

lofty light
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Yeah its getting that already

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Windows 11 is meant to have Android apps supported later down the line too

stable mountain
#

like the 20 "tycoon" games with exactly the same GUI, gameplay, and microtransactions all by the same dude

lofty light
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Ahhhhhhh GeForce now changes things

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Personally I still prefer running stuff of a local device if I can tbh

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Ah fair enough

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Oh of course, graphics is great it's the latency that gets me

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As Australian internet is awful

stable mountain
#

3 carier pidgeons with thumbdrives per fortnight right?

lofty light
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Pretty much

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Literal packets sent via snail mail

stable mountain
#

i think that was a joke at some point. it was quicker to drive with a thumbdrive between two companies a city appart than to transfer it via the internet

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sidenote, that's the way some backup solutions handle restoration. they send you a hard drive with the data

lofty light
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I've barely got 50/20Mbps

magic terrace
#

just a heads up, theres a GTC talk for Frostbite coming up probably today or tomorrow if any one is interested in that stuff

"Hardware Ray Tracing as a First- Class Citizen in Frostbite

Diede Apers, Rendering Engineer, Electronic Arts
Filipe Amim, Rendering Engineer, Electronic Arts

Frostbite is a large and complex engine that’s ever-evolving to meet the needs of a large number of games across many genres. It uses a stateless renderer for rasterization, but this is inefficient for ray tracing, as rebuilding ray-tracing data structures every frame is not feasible for performance. We'll discuss how we integrated GPU-accelerated ray tracing as a first-class citizen, including dealing with tens of thousands of objects, state caching, memory allocation patterns, acceleration structure updates, and multi-platform support. Finally, we'll look at an example feature--ray-traced ambient occlusion--that uses the ray-tracing infrastructure in Frostbite."

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and also for DLSS implementation

toxic wigeon
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Interesting

marsh gull
toxic zealot
#

mac is compelling option rn since you can have a monster rendering tool

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in a small form factor

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but once zen 4 comes out all cpus will be so powerful it wont even matter which brand you choose

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unless someone wants to run servers or some ridiculous rendering tasks on a damn laptop

stable mountain
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once someone makes a rederer that uses all CPU cores or something. it'll be back to epyc CPU's

toxic zealot
#

m1 def beats current mobile ryzen

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by quite a bit

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in efficiency

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ofc m1 cant run shit that needs any gpu

toxic zealot
#

arent current cpus handling 8k streams pretty well lol

stable mountain
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maybe, but with editing you always want moar powah

supple bane
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Moar powah baby!

stable mountain
#

gotta be able to scrub through the 8K red footage on the editingg timeline

quick locust
supple bane
autumn hollow
#

technology

stable mountain
#

Or you don't

dry pike
oblique tree
#

gbit internet is amazing, and my area is soon getting 2,5gbit/s internet

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you can never go too fast!

delicate reef
#

Yah, 3gbps and 10gbps came out here in Miami. I don't wanna know the cost of 10. Already paying 300 for the 3.

marsh gull
#

yeah no im good

oblique tree
#

Just because a car can go 200 an hour doesn't mean it's allowed to!

stable mountain
#

German autobahn 👌

lunar dawn
#

also for 10 giga you need a 10 gig card in your pc, in 2 months im getting a 2.5 gigs

vapid estuary
surreal crest
#

yes

vapid estuary
#

Thats like mixing water with milk

surreal crest
#

do you not like milk
flavoured water?

vapid estuary
#

No i hate

proud trellis
#

so today my friend realised he was only using 4 out of 6 cores in his 2600 😆

umbral crater
vapid estuary
#

🖕

vapid estuary
umbral crater
surreal crest
quick locust
#

Then it's a bad space heater

crystal helm
#

There a space heater?

craggy dagger
#

how come DX12 runs worse than DX11 for me? is that possible?

midnight crypt
#

if its bf5 yes

craggy dagger
#

ahhhh i see im not the only one who has it then

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that's a known issue?

midnight crypt
#

yes

craggy dagger
#

thanks for the answer

delicate gull
midnight crypt
#

thats one huge piece of silicon

delicate reef
vapid estuary
#

this thing is a monster

latent light
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3x faster than Nvidia A100 apparently

quick locust
#

Lul

latent light
#

Leaks were right about its core count and memory config

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14,080 shaders and 128GB HBM2e

quick locust
#

Try FreshBooks free, for 30 days, no credit card required at https://www.freshbooks.com/linus

Use code LINUS and get 25% off GlassWire at https://lmg.gg/glasswire

This is part 1 in a series where Linus and Luke migrate their home workstation to Linux. In this episode, each decides which Distro they'll use, and then tries to run a game on it.
...

▶ Play video
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lol

scenic night
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Has anyone run a test on PS4 to check how good it can run bf2042?

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And if I wanted to run a test myself how do I do it?

midnight crypt
#

you dont

scenic night
midnight crypt
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game is not out yet

pale quartz
#

dynamic resolution is also used on the older consoles

scenic night
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Ah okay thank you:)

vapid estuary
#

I need a good gaming headset but idk what to choose 😕

pale quartz
vapid estuary
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It doesnt matter

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Im ok with any good ones if they have detatchable mic

delicate gull
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will like a 1660 super and i7-3770 get me over 60 fps

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like average 50-65

midnight crypt
#

didnt you ask this a few days ago

delicate reef
#

00:00 - Low Settings
01:59 - Medium Settings
04:42 - High Settings
07:18 - Ultra Settigs
10:42 - Custom Settings

● SETUP:
● CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 4.6GHz
● GPU: ASUS TUF3 1660 SUPER
● WATER COOLER: Super Flower Neon 360mm
● MOBO: ASUS TUF B550M-Plus
● RAM: XPG Spectrix D41 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz
● PSU: Cooler Master MWE 650W 80 Plus Bronze
● HDD:...

▶ Play video
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Judge around those numbers

delicate gull
#

alr thx

delicate reef
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Yw

delicate gull
#

@midnight crypt sorry

pale quartz
surreal crest
#

If anyone needs a new ssd and is planning on buying the standard edition of battlefield, this is a great deal

supple bane
#

You cannot compare a 5800x to an i7 3770 in a really cpu intensive game

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A 4 core cpu litterally isnt enough for 2042

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So my assumtion is no @delicate gull wont get 60 fps

robust marsh
#

hello
My GPU is doing some weird shit in the last few days
like sometimes all the colors goes darker for couple of secs and it go back to normal
what could be the issue here?

midnight crypt
#

driver issue perhaps

surreal crest
#

Have you checked your drivers first?

delicate reef
#

A lot better than guessing

supple bane
#

Bro its a 5800x

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Vs an i7 3770

delicate reef
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1st of all, I'm not a bro, secondly it's not my PC so I don't really care

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Best of luck to him though

supple bane
#

If you dont care why help?

delicate reef
#

❤️

supple bane
#

Yup

delicate reef
#

you guys will be OK, no worries

#

:)

midnight crypt
#

everyone is a bro male, female or other

delicate reef
#

Here's my flex again just for fun

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Pantyhose do look weird lol

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Thanks

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Sure thanks dear

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Anyway enjoy!

supple bane
#

Flexing a very uncomfortable and fankly unusable setup

proud trellis
#

bruh

vapid estuary
#

mine 😃

#

getting another rgb strip and a better mousepad 😔

lofty ibex
#

Long boi monitor

vapid estuary
#

yes

delicate reef
delicate reef
lofty ibex
#

I want to get a curved monitor for flight sims. Will have to figure out how to fit it on my desk though with the other one

vapid estuary
vapid estuary
#

ty

#

nice

zenith tusk
#

check speedtest

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i can't send a image here

#

it's the average internet speeds

rain linden
#

ok

lament flare
#

Is external gpu dock really worth in your opinion?

#

For laptop user.

lofty light
#

Depends on the laptop

surreal crest
#

Most quality laptops have good cpus

lofty light
#

If the laptop can't properly cool it under load though then it's a waste

surreal crest
#

I mean, you're more than likely never going under a heavy load

#

Full utilization of the cpu

long ridge
#

My 10 year old asus mb started flaking out and won't recognize some drives, including the ssd boot drive, so i reckon it's time to upgrade.

Amd or intel?

Will my nvidia 1060 6gb be enough?

surreal crest
#

Get a 12600k if you want a good midtier CPU that'll last you 5-8 years

#

CPU bottlenecks don't matter as much compared to gpu bottlenecks so you're good

lament flare
#

How about RTX3060 + i7-11800H?

quick locust
#

Battery wear is the most inaccurate estimate

lament flare
#

Nice

zenith tusk
#

the 3090 air cooled pc is going to be a heater on a cold day

stable mountain
#

not any different from the R9 days of AMD

molten coral
quick locust
#

the heat output to the room is (nearly) equal to power consumption (radiation is low percentage)

lofty ibex
#

Screw the PC. Can I keep the cats?

quick locust
#

liquid card at 40C 350W output same as 85C 350W air card

#

though you can increase power on the liquid lol

stable mountain
#

the heat output ill stay the same. it will just be dicipated quicker

lofty ibex
#

does the RGB make it faster

quick locust
#

isn't that the thermal throttling one

#

lol

#

nvm, no

#

there was a sata ssd with so much rgb that it thermal throttled

stable mountain
#

wasn't that RAM that had so much RGB the voltage rail died?

quick locust
#

havent heard of it

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only seen sticks with dead rgb

#

not the whole rail

#

you increased wattage then

delicate reef
zenith tusk
#

good for you then

delicate reef
#

Thank you!

zenith tusk
lofty ibex
#

Good air cooling can work just as well as water cooling, if not better

delicate reef
#

Yah, my case has so much room lol, guess it helps

lofty ibex
#

good airflow and lots of good fans help yeah lol

#

68c is actually pretty standard (on the low end actually) for a GPU

delicate reef
#

Memory modules stay underneath 100c and according to Nvidia, that's optimal

#

Yeah, I'm good :)

lofty ibex
#

If your GPU is pushing 90 though... then you should definitely look into better cooling solutions

delicate reef
#

Got my 3090 last November. 2 more years warranty on it.

#

Correct lol

lofty ibex
#

85-90c is where (for Nvidia cards at least) you can start seeing bad throttling and permanent damage

#

23c idle? why compromise the stability of your card for that

quick locust
#

it's not thermal throttling, it just follows nvidia's gpu boost graph

lofty ibex
#

its a thermal throttle set in place to ensure that people who don't know what they're doing can't destroy their card as easily

midnight crypt
#

look at the pic she posted yesterday of her pc

delicate reef
#

I render mostly with my 3090 than game. Blender and Daz, and it won't go over 56c in those, so I figure it's just perfectly fine.

midnight crypt
#

its literally choked for air

delicate reef
#

If you say so

mortal nacelle
#

my 3080ti in demanding games becomes around 65c

quick locust
#

my 2080 ti is around 73-75 in most

midnight crypt
#

same

quick locust
#

it's not one of the more extreme triple slot cards

#

lol

stable mountain
#

aren't all reference coolers known to be abosule trash since the dawn of man?

quick locust
#

eh turing is fine

stable mountain
#

like, nobody sane uses a GPU with a reference cooler

quick locust
#

and ampere

mortal nacelle
#

My card is a Asus stix 3080ti

#

so not FE

quick locust
#

vega 64 though is ear destroyer

delicate reef
#

Choked for air - right?

midnight crypt
#

if you open the side sure its not

delicate reef
#

But still, thanks for the concern, I game just fine xD

stable mountain
#

still choked for air with one lousy fan

quick locust
#

even then

#

I do use closed back headphones but

#

at 3500-4000 rpm it's audible still

delicate reef
#

Guess it doesn't really matter since I never see sub 60 frames and have G sync

stable mountain
#

throw some noctua fans on there and you wont hear a thing

delicate reef
lofty ibex
#

just FYI, the only pro to water cooling is case real estate, its not any better than air cooling otherwise

stable mountain
#

my new motherboard doesn't have enough fan connectors for all my case fans and i'm to lazy to buy a controler

#

i really should buy one tho

lofty ibex
#

There's a large misconception that water cooling is infinitely better than air cooling

stable mountain
#

aside from everyone getting better temps, and cooked VRM's

lofty ibex
#

you had bad fans and/or airflow. Or possibly not enough fans

mortal nacelle
lofty ibex
#

Water cooling is amazing though for small cases

#

Can get temps with water cooling in a smol case that you cant with fans because there just isnt enough space

quick locust
#

I run 2100 and 5.0 GHz

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except 8700K

lofty ibex
#

Air cooling gang all the way (partly because I don't trust myself with water anywhere near my PC)

delicate reef
#

I just air cool anyway because I'll just buy the next graphic card that comes out from a scalper again if it explodes. So far, all fine and good frames. So meh, lol

#

I don't know water stuff, too scaryyy

quick locust
#

I could do water cooling, but it'd be a bit weird in my case unless I can find 180mm rads

lofty ibex
#

I'll just stick with the spinny brr bois, but ty

quick locust
#

RV02E

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There's some rads for 180mm fans, but they're less common

#

Maybe some will make them again due to the Torrent case

#

ah

#

Z is the small form factor one iirc

#

heres an FT02

delicate reef
#

Not pc related but I finally got a ps5 yesterday and my LG C1 can use fps thingy for it, thought that was neat ^^

quick locust
#

same interior as RV02 but diff outside

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pretty nice

#

problem is the rads nowadays

#

though they might make more due to torrent

#

which also use 180mm fans iirc

#

I think the Z ones are the SFF ones

#

while normal is pretty big for its era

#

though the 5.25 bays arent very useful now, though can use 3,5 inch adapters or one of those 5,25 inch pump/res combo

#

ah

#

old hw

#

yeah

#

nice

#

I just had bad laptops at the time

#

lol

#

Until 2013 ish

near rune
#

i had bad laptops until start of this year

quick locust
#

I've had several acer aspire

#

And one asus

delicate reef
#

My only good laptop I ever had

#

2080 and desktop i7 socket

#

I love msi tho cause

#

I spilled milk on it

#

And it turned off

#

For 2 hours

#

I cried

quick locust
#

My acer aspires have been alright, I wasnt gaming or anything on them so they were decent enough

delicate reef
#

And later it turned back on and worked fine ever since just, smells like calcium jannakek

quick locust
#

Lol

delicate reef
#

We all spend money on our passions ❤️

quick locust
#

i spent a lot too

#

and i wish i could use it more, but work calls

#

though I am happy for my 8700K, it's the winner of 2017 for me lol

#

If I got 7700K i would already have upgraded

#

Yeah, 1080 ti and 8700K would be good deals in 2017.

#

My 8700K goes to 5.1, but 5.2 is a no-go

#

Pretty high voltage for 5.1, 1.375V I think

#

I run 5.0 normally at 1.355

#

Temp around 50-60 in games

#

well NH-D15 in a RV02

#

and games are a light load

#

if I run full avx 24/7 I'd need to downclock

#

since I'd hit 95 ish C

#

I believe

#

That's not really my use case though

#

what about it

#

yeah, but that's not a load I have 99% of the time

delicate reef
#

It's not

quick locust
#

clamshell designs are expensive to manufacture

delicate reef
#

Only if you render as a hobby or work

#

I compared that one

#

I went with my LG C1

#

Better features and OLED too

#

Paid 2500 for my 3090 last November. But since it was founders, I didn't care

#

XD

#

Makes sense

delicate reef
#

If you mean MSFS or DCS...

#

Then you DO benefit from more VRAM

#

Well depending on what you do, but you definitely will eat up more Vram especially with the next index coming

#

So don't knock the 3090 just yet lol

#

Ohok

#

@quick locust my wheel setup lol, I said who needs VR!

#

I sit back and play most things on controller. Don't need the space :)

#

And I needed 3090, I make some income from it

#

❤️

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No idea what that is.

#

I'm a school teacher and do 3D artwork on the side on a patreon :)

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Ahhh ok

#

Special ed too, I love it. But not the appropriate channel here for chatting about it. So long as you love what you do preventjelly

#

That's why I set up multiple income revenues before, so I can now do what I love

#

XD

#

Anyway good talk!

quick locust
#

Nice

delicate reef
#

Ouchies, that guy deleting all his messages makes me look all lonely! jannakek

quick locust
#

:P

quick locust
molten coral
quick locust
#

Wonder how my old 8700K compares

#

And Alder lake when it comes

digital hill
#

@prime jasper M1 or what's your mac mini specs and year?

prime jasper
#

tech

green ginkgo
#

If I had weird performance on my 3070 in the beta can I expect to get fitting performances for my 3070, because if 3060 got better performances than 3060tis and 3070s I don’t know what to say

midnight crypt
#

One can hope

delicate gull
royal zinc
#

is anyone facing this issue in fh5

#

my gpu and cpu temps are fine

supple bane
delicate gull
#

Ah crap

#

Some guy on yt had a 1060 6gb and my processor and got like 60-70

midnight crypt
royal zinc
midnight crypt
#

Reinstall see if it does anything

royal zinc
delicate reef
#

You can also go to disk cleanup, and clean directx shader cache

royal zinc
royal zinc
delicate reef
#

Make sure you do clean installation for the gpu driver

royal zinc
delicate reef
royal zinc
#

@delicate reef i think its a very rare bug cause i have played 86 dirt races and i have seen this bug in 1 or 2 of them

delicate reef
#

Wow weird yeah

delicate gull
#

Weird

delicate gull
delicate reef
heady bear
oak cave
#

My new baby TrashPandaSniff

#

Any ideas for processors? I was thinking for an Ryzen 5 5600x

thin iron
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I have this combo

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U play in 1080p?

pale quartz
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higher the core higher the framerate

thin iron
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Best combo price/perf