technology

[latent light]

Very likely cheap OEM RAM with bad latency

[thorny crest]

i upgrade it next month

to 2933

and then upgrade cpu later in the future

[marsh gull]

then get 3200mhz for your next cpu

[marsh gull]

ram speed

[light wave]

Btw since I was talking about that Gigabyte PSU a few days ago here, I gave it away to a friend to test some stuff on it.

He tripped OPP on it, loaded it to about 70%, it blew.

[marsh gull]

thats smart

[latent light]

Gigbyte

[marsh gull]

hopefully it didnt break anything

[light wave]

Well, he wanted it for that exact reason.

[marsh gull]

lmao fair enouph

[midnight crypt]

Who doesnt want free explosives

[opaque saddle]

Who wants a paid time bomb at home tho? No one should risk their computers or their safety for a part with terrible built quality

[nova shell]

Derek

[marsh gull]

premium from gigabyte

[quick locust]

yeah same as GN

Though one of them died without OPP and just a constant load instead over a day

[light wave]

I think GN's popped even earlier, at around 60%

[quick locust]

he had multiple

but yeah 60-70% range

[prime jasper]

Need help

I destroyed my mouse

And need a new one

Can anyone dm a decent cheap mouse

Like

Under 50 dollars

[pale quartz]

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G502-Performance-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B07GBZ4Q68/ on sale rn

[quick locust]

you're going to summon Nyphon with that

[pale quartz]

@storm osprey

[indigo fjord]

i already have this 😎

[zenith tusk]

is the scroll wheel different

i have the older G502 and the scroll wheel is rusty

[hidden pumice]

Is it normal 3700x-3080ti 1440p bottleneck

[pale quartz]

yeah why i warned about it

[pale quartz]

yes

[hidden pumice]

sad

time to back intel ty

[pale quartz]

i wasnt, the different 1005 SMD for the different z height means its a problem

thats not so simple, the layer is packed on a top and bottom layout, which doesnt exist for RKL, or 10th gen

it will have to be done exclusively for ADL, existing techniques dont work

[toxic zealot]

wait why did people delid cpus again

[midnight crypt]

For better cooling performance

[hidden pumice]

LOL

[light wave]

@pale quartz so, I've got a tricky issue. My PC started to randomly lock up. I tried a 60 min run of Prime95, no errors, a full run of Passmark Memtest86, no errors, ran Furmark for 45 mins, no issue, ran on each stick of RAM individually, no luck there as well.

[pale quartz]

is this a full system lockup or part freeze lockup?

[light wave]

Initially I can click tray and taskbar icons and get visual feedback, then it locks up.

[pale quartz]

hm sounds like a kernel level induced panic, check if there's any kernel exceptions present on event viewer (if there are inform me but don't paste them here)

[light wave]

Critical event coming from Kernel-Power. I assume that's because I had to force it to power down.

[pale quartz]

shit yeah was anticipating it but hoped it wasn't, right I'll get back to this, can't handle this here since event viewer shows sensitive information, dm me and I'll handle it from there

[marsh gull]

the razer basilisk esstential is decent

[marsh gull]

the cpu is the bottlneck

[hidden pumice]

but when i try to play bf5 cpu around %50 and gpu around %60

1440p 90-110 fps ultra-rtx on-d12
fps drop and laggy bit

[marsh gull]

what ram and motherboard

[marsh gull]

laggy when the match starts?

[hidden pumice]

when i try to run :D

x570 msi gaming plus
trident z neo 16gb 3600mhz

temps under 60 degree

game freezing like 1sec

[marsh gull]

the ram is dual channel right? (or quad-channel?)

[hidden pumice]

duo

a2 b2

[marsh gull]

could you check task manager to see if there's anything maxing out at 100% while you're gaming?

do you use a hard drive to launch your game?

[hidden pumice]

m2 ssd nvme

msi afterburner shows %50 task manager %80 cpu load

while in game

[marsh gull]

could just be some windows bug or its kinda normal for the game to freez and stutter when its loading the massive maps

[marsh gull]

two different measures for the cpu?

[hidden pumice]

yes

[marsh gull]

thats weird but i think its a software issue

anyways gotta go bye

[willow schooner]

Does it just power down or black screen?

[light wave]

Neither. I get feedback from taskbar icons for a few clicks then it hangs completely.

[willow schooner]

And you tested the RAM in a different system?

[light wave]

I tested each kit using Passmark's memtest from an USB

All 13 tests ran with 0 errors.

[willow schooner]

Possibly OS drive failure? If it were power supply, the system would shutoff partially, GPU would be signal loss, RAM would be blue screen, same for CPU

[raw turtle]

@hidden pumice Some basic troubleshooting things ,

Are you 100% sure that you enabled XMP? This is what makes the ram run at the advertised speed and if it’s not it could be causing performance issues.

if you previously upgraded from a older GPU, specifically radeon, did you do a full DDU to get rid of drivers?

I guess also make sure drivers are completely updated just as a general rule of thumb but that probably won’t fix it.

[hidden pumice]

rams at 3600mhz full speed xmp on

i was using gtx 1080 and bought 3080ti, installed fresh w10 and drivers

[gentle veldt]

What is the agreed best CPU for BF2042 paired with a 3080 Ti. Not going for a 3090 as there is no real performance gain compared to the 3080 Ti.

My monitor is only 4k60hz atm but I might buy a 4k144hz or 4k120hz TV in future

[raw turtle]

Ryzen 7 5800x
Ryzen 9 5900x
Ryzen 5 5950x
Ryzen 9 3900x
Ryzen 9 3950x

Intel i7 10700k
Intel i7 11700k
intel i9 11900k
intel i9 10900k
intel i9 9900k
intel i7 12700k
intel i9 12900k

all valid options

[modern gull]

Think my AIO is dead

[vapid estuary]

My ryzen 5 goes 101c with an aio according to msi aftetburner 😩

[modern gull]

At least i can still use my pc, but it does overheat at high load

I think i'll contact the place i bought it tomorrow and return this one

[latent light]

Air cooling better

Reliable

[supple bane]

my dirt cheap deepcool aio still going strong after a few years

bit gutted im going to have to get rid of it for intel 12th gen.

unless deepcool come out with a bracket for it, but considering its completely outdated and replaced i doubt that will happen

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-grumpy-trying-to-sleep-gif-14392800

[latent light]

G502

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hercules-hades-pissed-off-mad-angry-gif-5226703

[molten coral]

G502

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/scroll-mouse-gif-15452525

one day nyphon will just accept that he is wrong and that the g502 is the best mouse on the planet

[modern gull]

I suppose so, just as simple as changing fan if there is issues

[modern gull]

Mine isn't even 1 year old yet

[supple bane]

its a 240mm aio, cost me 45 pounds. all the rgb a man could ask for. keeps my cpu under 60c

[storm osprey]

ive owned 2, i gave both away, ill never accept a lie

[supple bane]

a 2600, which is a cool running cpu, but a 100w under synthetics isnt anything to scoff at i guess

[modern gull]

On this AIO my temp has been around 80c max at 100%

Wait like a i7 2600? 👀

[supple bane]

no

wrong colour

[modern gull]

I see, i see it was red

[supple bane]

indeed

[modern gull]

I was like he can't possibly use that

You never know tho 😛

[supple bane]

i look forward to the nice 150w 12600k

[modern gull]

I think i got mine to 160-180w i think it was

[supple bane]

and thats if intels "turbo power" is accurate. wouldn't be completely surprising if its more than that

[modern gull]

i9 9900k

[supple bane]

plus you bet ill have it oc'ed

[modern gull]

[opaque saddle]

[modern gull]

I think those was no oc

[supple bane]

what, the 12600k?

[modern gull]

[supple bane]

oh.

derek made that thonk face so i thought i said something dum

[modern gull]

It has base at 3.6 i guess that's where they do TDP from or something

[supple bane]

probably

they said the tdp was 125w. with the turbo tdp being 150w

but i dont think either will be true tbh

[modern gull]

But it will run 2 cores i think at 5ghz and rest 4.7

[modern gull]

[supple bane]

my old i5 7400 was a 65w tdp and i never saw it go over 40w

[modern gull]

The watt i said was with turbo mode tho

Let me check what watt i get now, i had to clock it down to 4ghz lol

[supple bane]

4ghz, thats yikes for a 9900k

[opaque saddle]

I usually switch off turbo and hyper threading

[supple bane]

a whole ghz lower than what it can do

[modern gull]

[supple bane]

is that 100% load?

[modern gull]

Had to as my AIO going bad 😛

Yes

[supple bane]

at 4ghz?

[modern gull]

Mhm

[supple bane]

wow.

9900k more efficient than r5 2600 clock per clock

[modern gull]

All cores

[modern gull]

Should keep hyper threading

[opaque saddle]

Nah. That was my old Xeon tho

[modern gull]

Well also turbo if your cooling is good enough for that cpu

[opaque saddle]

I only got 1 cpu fan and 1 exhaust fan for that build

No need for for cooling since it don’t get hot anyway

[modern gull]

I see

Hyper threading gives you more performance in most modern games

[opaque saddle]

I don’t play games on that pc

[modern gull]

If your gpu is at 100% anyways it don't matter, won't get more fps

[opaque saddle]

It is fast for browsing YouTube and not kidding. The SSD is fast

[modern gull]

Ah

[opaque saddle]

That was my old build tho. 4th intel

A GTX 960 4GB and 16gb ram for that build

[modern gull]

I see, i see

[supple bane]

man that was bad lmao

i wanted to SS how much power my cpu draws at 4ghz to show its about 95w (more than a 9900k at 4ghz which has more cores)

[opaque saddle]

Unless you want a 12900k and a 3090, 128gb ram for watching YouTube videos

[supple bane]

i set cpu z's priority to high to see if i could get more juice flowing, and the system was so slow after that the test wouldnt stop heh

task manager crashed, cpu z was responsive but the buttons werent doing anything. had to sign out

[modern gull]

You need 3090 2 way sli and 256gb ram for youtube

[modern gull]

[opaque saddle]

I remember I did however, set a RAM disk before

So the cache will go directly toward the RAM disk

But since google chrome just cache it into RAM these days anyway

I just don’t see the whole point of doing that anymore

[modern gull]

Didn't intel make somekind of cache or ram disk thing?

[opaque saddle]

Not sure

[modern gull]

Like to boost HDD speed or something

[opaque saddle]

What I was referring to, is not making chrome to make any single traces via SSD

[modern gull]

Ah it was called optane

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/memory-storage/optane-memory.html

[opaque saddle]

Well, optane is good for system drive

Low latency but it isn’t good for the price

Would rather grab a Samsung SSD coz it worth the price anyway

[modern gull]

Was gonna get that actually but got a m.2 instead anyways

[supple bane]

random question but does anyone know of any white tower coolers?

preferably with no rgb, just w h i t e

because rn im getting an nhd15 with the chromaxx.white covers, which will be expensive

[storm osprey]

...

[midnight crypt]

spray paint one of your choice

[supple bane]

i was considering dark rock pro 4 and painting it

but id be scared of ruining it. so thats a last ditch i guess

[storm osprey]

pretty sure id cooling and arctic have white cpu coolers

[supple bane]

arctic have one yes

but its small. doubt it would handle a 12600k

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-grey-white-cpu-cooler-2-x-120mm-hs-07s-ar.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwoP6LBhBlEiwAvCcthHYPtlnvngBHbYWV4X9H6X2peHAlP4yIAfuzto44wYrIb9879IOywxoCYBQQAvD_BwE

[storm osprey]

yeee that one

[supple bane]

it says suitable up to 210w. but i cant see it tbh

[storm osprey]

look up reviews

pretty sure the 34 esport single fan line was pretty damn good

[supple bane]

similar to a hyper 212

[supple bane]

ok so a u12s

thats pretty good.

[supple bane]

there is also these two

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-quiet-shadow-rock-3-white-cpu-cooler-120mm-hs-01q-bq.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwoP6LBhBlEiwAvCcthMLQhtyCOJIVmy4n-7HUg-HX4HKUPfd85fLfvrpzvje0ehJxgrZl6xoCH-cQAvD_BwE

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/alpenfohn-brocken-3-white-edition-cpu-cooler-dual-fan-edition-140mm-hs-05d-al.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwoP6LBhBlEiwAvCcthDQk397PDuYq6gHKqemiJdGORXjDNNtJV5jSCB8t_5GcZ5iFhqox5RoCALQQAvD_BwE

[latent light]

Zen 4 has double the L2 cache of Zen 3, no info on L3 cache yet

[supple bane]

the second one looks beefy but its a brand ive never heard

[storm osprey]

same, i like arctic... obviously

[supple bane]

hmm.

i feel like 88c at 150w is still pretty hot.

considering that im assuming the 12600k will draw more than that when its turboing. im not sure

if its worth paying double for the nhd 15

the 11600k peaked at 220w iirc

[gentle veldt]

So building a high end pc what's the verdict on cooling.. Not doing a water loop but what are my options and pros and cons

[storm osprey]

depending on price the arctic liquid freezer ii is just too good to pass up unless you dont need that much cooling

[nova shell]

I need to cool my 187w ryzen 5 2600

[storm osprey]

yea for essentially 90 bucks anything 60 bucks or more i would say this dominates those suggestions

i guess the only con to the arctic aio is longevity, air coolers just naturally last longer, but its not like a quality aio is going to die within 5 years anyway

pretty damn sure their warranty is 6 years, so they believe it will last at least that long, but if something other than a fan goes out youre looking at replacing a whole new one, compared to air coolers its only the fan that will go bad and those are easy/cheap to replace

[nova shell]

Should I strap 2 delta fans to my aio

The delta fans draw over 1 amp each

[molten coral]

Great cooler and very easy to install

[lunar dawn]

how tf is that using 200watts

[lunar dawn]

what aio do you have?

honestly best cooler is the noctua nh d15 unless you go watercooling (360-420mm)

[storm osprey]

arctic liquid freezer 240 > nhd15

[nova shell]

Artic liquid freezer 2

[lunar dawn]

actually not, the nhd15 is compared to a 360mm aio in testing

[nova shell]

Overclocking 4.3 ghz all core at 1.4v

[lunar dawn]

damn that 1.4v

[nova shell]

Ram at 3433mghz

Stable

[lunar dawn]

mega giga hertz

ddr12 ram

[storm osprey]

noise normalized and it is the 280mm, which isnt THAT much better than the 240mm

[lunar dawn]

oh well alright i guess

[nova shell]

It scored over 8100 in cinebench it was beating a few Xeons

[lunar dawn]

i have a liquid freezer ii lol

the 420mm one

[nova shell]

I have the 360 mm

If I try to post at 3600mghz which is what the ram is rated at windows will tell me that it lost parts of the kernel

The silicon has been degraded sadly

I just bought the chip to update the bios to support 5000 series which I’m getting a 5900x

Lap the aio and try 5 gigahertz all core

[midnight crypt]

sounds like a fantastically horrible idea

[nova shell]

But on the 5900x

So 12 cores at 5 gigahertz how many watts should it draw?

400w?

[storm osprey]

not that OC is worth it anyway iirc

[nova shell]

Yeah

[terse stirrup]

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[supple bane]

thats a damn good chip, mine will only do 4.1 at 1.4v

although i still cant see that consuming 187w

mine consumes 100w at that speed

considering the voltage is the same, the power draw shouldnt be much higher

[nova shell]

The silicon bin and temperature of the chip are the main factors of power draw for a cpu

[supple bane]

yeah but thats like up there with a 10900k with an all core oc locked with locked voltage

[nova shell]

The score of the cpu or the silicon bin?

[short pier]

essentially 90 bucks

what dat mean]

[storm osprey]

its 89 bucks, so i rounded up to 90

but people are fucking pedantic that they would argue "its actually 89, not 90"

[short pier]

idk if essentially is the right word

😳

[storm osprey]

would basically work?

(spoiler alert, those are synonyms)

[short pier]

colloquially yes but really it doesn't make any sense either way

[storm osprey]

hmm sounds a bit.. pedantic

[short pier]

😏

you know it baby

im literally applying to MIT right now

[rocky marlin]

i saw that the 12900k can do better in almost every benchmark than the 5950x

il will run 2042 like smooth butter

[storm osprey]

lets just wait and see

[latent light]

Got to 6.9 GHz at 420 watts

[coarse nimbus]

what did?

[short pier]

Oh interesting

[gentle veldt]

Long hair guy has some biceps

[nova shell]

[latent light]

Same

[thorny crest]

Hi I got amd Ryder 5 3350g pro cpu can I be able to run the battlefield 2042

The cpu it self

[pale quartz]

you cannot no, it does not meet the minimum requirements

[thorny crest]

Ok thnx

[latent light]

Imagine having a 11900K

[quick locust]

lol

it'd be like having 7700K

since that came out less than a year before 8700K

[pale quartz]

yeah they're all good cards really regardless of the vendor, you won't have any issues

Xtreme is decently binned iirc, so it's what you're after

[quick locust]

yes

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/geforce-rtx-3080-vs-radeon-rx-6800-xt-megabench/

[quick locust]

to manikk's meme graph

which resolution and are you going to use RT a lot

[marsh gull]

facts

bigger is better even in the name everybody knows that

[quick locust]

https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-just-tripled-its-bounty-for-linux-kernel-bugs-heres-why/

[stable mountain]

the fuck is that plate, that doesn't look right

Eh, old pentium chips were also bare die 🤷‍♂️

[toxic zealot]

which ones

i remember all old cpus having a heatsink

[stable mountain]

Derp, I was think of athlons and the like. Wrong manufacturer

[toxic zealot]

which old athlon has exposed die

[stable mountain]

Some of the mobile ones I think. But truth be told that's not desktop

[toxic zealot]

i need that beefy noctua cooling nvidia gpu

rtx 3070 50-60c 30db

on max load

lol

[opaque saddle]

Parts retirement from my old rig is just a beginning for my 2nd machine

[lunar dawn]

perhaps to no short the cpu wit liquid metal

[hidden pumice]

I have;
3080ti evga ftw3
3700x ryzen 7
16gb trident z neo 3600
x570 msi gaming plus

Want to change cause bottleneck with that cpu, what should i buy?

[latent light]

Leaker says RTX 4090 will have 550-watt total graphics power

[molten coral]

💀

[latent light]

TBP (total board power) will be around 600-650 watts

[midnight crypt]

They really need to stop cranking up the power

[lament flare]

I love number but I hate math.

[toxic zealot]

550w?

how are they going to cool that

dual tower heatsinks?

[latent light]

4-slot cooler

Or maybe watercooling will come default

[toxic zealot]

rtx 3090 msi one has very very beefy heatsink

at its power draw is like 360w

3 fans

[lunar dawn]

i mean thats a pretty good cpu if you want to upgrade get a 5800x i guess

or even 5900x but it costs more but its better and has more cores (if you do video editing or streaming its better)

[lunar dawn]

gonna buy a new psu just for the gpu, double psu system 💪

[lunar dawn]

i have that gpu and sometimes it spiked up to 400 or more watts but normally it sits like at 350

[dry pike]

The wattages are indeed stupid. Gaming computers act like space heaters which is the last thing many offices, rooms, apartments etc. need.

[latent light]

Plus it's bad on the environment

I bet EU will ban 500+W gaming GPUs

Imagine all the miners using thousands of those kind of GPUs, there would be blackouts

[coarse nimbus]

more for us in na land

Wouldn't they just make those cards unable to mine? Like they did with the second batch of 3000 cards

[proud trellis]

i dont even need my radiator ever turned on in my bedroom i just get my pc to heat up my room

[latent light]

It sucks ass when your PC heats up the room/house during the summer

[proud trellis]

yeah it does

[coarse nimbus]

Lmao..yikes tier self promotion

[proud trellis]

i have a fan but it does literally nothing in my room lol

[ashen wasp]

amd all the way

[storm osprey]

id say it depends on resolution and of course what you can even get at what price

[raw turtle]

6900xt definitely

if you’re a overclocker too it’s an absolute beast

[latent light]

RX 6000 series is fun to overclock

[lunar dawn]

bro its actually a good thing so you dont have to pay to warm up your house /s

jokes aside my pc really does warm up my house while playing bfv

[honest bison]

3080 Ti for DLSS

and driver stability

[latent light]

Drivers for RX 6000 GPUs are fine

Also seems like you can almost get a 3090 for just a little more than a 3080Ti and have double the VRAM

[pale quartz]

3080ti is for all intensive purposes a money black hole if you're buying one, just get a 3090

and yeah the drivers have been fine lol

[latent light]

If planning on keeping a GPU for 2+ years, always go for higher VRAM capacity

You never know what next gen games demand

[supple bane]

i feel like its going to start to really test the abilities of blocks/cold plates/ thermal paste/ cooler efficiency. if there is 500w packed into a gpu by default

not just the surface area of the heatsink

[pale quartz]

its already possible

the materials wont be impacted

[supple bane]

yeah i know, but it requires very expensive coolers :P

thats my point

[pale quartz]

it doesnt, just ramp up the fan speed, you solve your issues pretty much

if inaudible*

500w bioses already exist for the 3090 and have for a while

used sparingly for those in the enthusiast community

[supple bane]

but if the tdp of the 3090 is what? 350? and the tdp of the 4090 is 550

then the Xoc bioses might be pushing 700w

if it stays proportional

[pale quartz]

tdp doesnt matter

hardware manufacturers already push the 3090 beyond 400 as a standard

[latent light]

550W TGP not TDP

TGP is exclusively the GPU chip itself iirc

[pale quartz]

450w is common for the most overclocked 3090's, and common spikes for the FE 3090

[latent light]

Nvidia power does spike like a mf even with RTX 2000 series

[pale quartz]

what the trouble with this 3090ti is, is that spikes will push towards 600w of power

[supple bane]

my 2070 doesnt really power spike as far as ive observed

[pale quartz]

which is verging on big trouble for 850w PSUs

[supple bane]

it doesnt have the cooling headroom for it :P

[pale quartz]

it does

it just isnt measured in software

[supple bane]

i see

[latent light]

3090Ti supposedly is bringing a whole new power connector from the already new 12-pin

[supple bane]

seriously. the cooler on my card is totally inadequate, i hit thermal limit before the stock power limit

never mind cranking the power limit like most people say to do

ive never seen it not on temp limit

[supple bane]

with a 100% power limit and a cranked temp limit tho!

still at temp limit

173w, 2w below tdp. 87c

100% fan speed

[raw turtle]

that’s a problem h

what are you doing wrong where you’re at 87c on a 2070

[supple bane]

gigglebyte

im debating a re-paste.

because if i touch one of the two heat pipes its like room temperature, whilst the other is hot. so im wondering if somethings not right there.

[coarse nimbus]

Gigabyte be skimping on actual heat pipes..the other ones are placebos

[supple bane]

also its currently 4 degrees Celsius outside so its not air temp

[proud trellis]

is it not to do with your pc cases air flow or am i way off target ?

[opal cliff]

Just curious do you guys think the system requirements will stay the same or change for the launch of the game?

[lunar dawn]

checkk the temps with hwinfo 64 so you can also see vrm temps and other sensors on the gpu

also 87 is kinda high

[lunar dawn]

perhaps also thermal pads

i used the noctua nt h2+ gelid thermal pads and i saw a 10c drop on my 3090

[supple bane]

My card doesnt have sensors other than core

[supple bane]

Case airflow can be a factor but its not that

Not in my case should i say

[proud trellis]

oh

[dry pike]

If I'm cold all I need to do is game, my 3080ti keep this room warm all year long

[storm osprey]

lol thats how ive felt recently

[digital hill]

Man I wish my room can go cold

Even with all windows open it doesn't become cold as it's too insulated

[dry pike]

Would not be surprised if the next GPUs use even more wattage that they will begin having memory on the backside of the cards with their own heatsinks

6 fans on a GPU here we go

Just gamed for 2 hours, 24c

[digital hill]

Oh no

Hopefully it doesn't require a lot more or it'll make the power bill a lot

[honest bison]

then something is 1000% wrong with it

not even my 3080 gets that hot

[supple bane]

Yeah but your 3080 has a considerably better cooler

Its a windforce 2x. They are notorably bad designs

Which is why im on the fence about even bothering because the chances of it changing anything are low

If i have the temp limit at 81 like it is stock. It will stay there

But it will thermal throttle a lil

Well not even, just it wont boost

1615mhz is boost speed. It can turbo to 1800 easy, but with the temperature limit it will be stuck at about 1650.

[gaunt axle]

okay dudes my keyboard MK70 space just broke and in need for another keyboard, any recommendations

[storm osprey]

budget and wants?

[gaunt axle]

about 200$$$

[storm osprey]

jesus

well if you want meme rgb lights with brand recognition corsair k70 or whatever is around that price now

[nova shell]

What case?

[proud trellis]

razer

keyboard

[storm osprey]

k70 is corsair

wait i said corsair... what you on ice

[proud trellis]

yh ik i was recommending razer

[storm osprey]

ooo gotcha

[proud trellis]

what are you on nyphon

jk

[storm osprey]

lack of sleep

[proud trellis]

oh rip

[supple bane]

Corsair carbide 275r

[nova shell]

Is the front panel solid metal?

I can’t tell from product images on google

[storm osprey]

just at face value id probably recommend whatever DROP keyboard is under 200 bucks

even if they arent the BEST value, they are better than just about any gaming keyboard

[supple bane]

Its solid plastic but there is a good 3/4 inch gap all the way around the edge

[gaunt axle]

what about 910 the one from logitech ?

[nova shell]

Take off the front panel someone here had temperature issues here not that long ago on a 2060 and lowered temps by 6c if I remember correctly

[nova shell]

Oh

[supple bane]

Its a big gap for air

[storm osprey]

iirc those have laser etched keycaps which are horrible and they have their proprietary romer g switches which means you can only use logitechs shit keycaps, thats a hard pass imo

[nova shell]

Yeah

[nova shell]

It’s a gigabyte product nothing to worry about

[supple bane]

lmao

yep. pretty much summarises it

[storm osprey]

standard cherry stem on left, romer g on right.. 99% of keyboards use cherry stems, and 99.9% of keycaps use stem as well

[proud trellis]

are gatreon switches good nyphon ? i want to get them in my next keyboard probs

[nova shell]

Sadly oh well

[storm osprey]

cant really go by brand in general, especially with switches

[proud trellis]

ahh

[storm osprey]

gateron, kailh, and cherry make like... 200 switches between them

[proud trellis]

oh

[storm osprey]

and within a brand you can get switches like gat browns that are scratchy because their tooling is old so the molds are worn which fucks up tolerances, when their red switches could be brand new and super smooth

[molten coral]

I've a G815 and love it, mainly because it's low profile though.

[proud trellis]

https://youtu.be/6poHkIBSGhw these are the ones i like atm but it might change in the future idk

i like stock and lubed ngl

[storm osprey]

last i recall their blacks were good, but that was years ago and idk how their tooling is holding up now

[proud trellis]

oh

[storm osprey]

to showcase the importance of tooling, cherry had their patent or something exclusive to themselves for a loooong time, once it ended other companies started making switches too, but other brands made much better switches because their machines were new vs cherry using tooling from decades ago

so for the longest time if you knew anything about switches, you were a damn fool for buying cherry mx reds because they felt like shit, when you could get gateron reds that were waaaaay better and cheaper

[proud trellis]

i dont like the sound of many clicky switches tbh like reds or blues

to me they just sound cheap for some reason

[storm osprey]

reds are linear, blues are clicky

[proud trellis]

wait reds are linear

[storm osprey]

blacks are just harder to press reds

[gaunt axle]

thnks nyph 😄

[storm osprey]

thats the simplest answer i can give without asking if you want custom, stock, what you want it for and why, can you solder, etc

[proud trellis]

i like green clicky switches as i have them rn but blues i just cant stand

[storm osprey]

razer green?

[proud trellis]

yeah

[storm osprey]

those are literally razers "proprietary" blues

[proud trellis]

i would say that greens are kinda quieter then blues which i think is why i prefer them

[storm osprey]

(razer uses kailh to make green switches)

[proud trellis]

oh

[storm osprey]

theres a ton of factors to why that could be, housing tolerances, spring ping, mount type, materials used on the keyboard, keycaps

so unless you are directly comparing two switches where everything is exactly the same BUT the switches, you cant really draw a conclusion to the differences in terms of sound, and technically feel as well

[proud trellis]

i think they have the same materials but just different spring

would only make sense to me tbh

[storm osprey]

well there are 2 "springs" in a clicky switch, theres a leaflet and a spring, but im talking about a KEYBOARDS materials changing it

[proud trellis]

ohhhh

i wish razer made their keyboards hot swappable as well but i guess that would be pointless in a way as it is a "razer" keyboard

[storm osprey]

id be willing to bet a kailh blue and a razer green would be indistinguishable to almost everyone

and that includes someone like me...

[proud trellis]

well if kailh make razer switches basically then there probs is not much of a difference

https://youtu.be/M-2qzrZpgwo

[storm osprey]

but to go back on what you said earlier, i would highly suggest people that have a vague interest in keyboards to get a hotswap keyboard

[proud trellis]

see with a hotswap keyboard do you have to solder ?

or would that just defy the point of it being a hot swappable keyboard

[storm osprey]

no, thats the point of hotswap

"hot" meaning you can swap a switch while its on

[proud trellis]

i might just build my own hot swappable keyboard then so i dont need to solder

[storm osprey]

there are a lot of hotswappable keyboards out there, just not by "gaming brands"

[proud trellis]

plus i can just change the switches if i want to whenever really ig

[storm osprey]

glorious GMMK probably being the most popular and one of the cheaper options

[proud trellis]

i might get a TKL keyboard aswell instead of 100%

[storm osprey]

glorious has 3 size options

[proud trellis]

i used my keypad but its not all the time and its just sitting there most the time

[storm osprey]

full, tkl, and 60% iirc

[proud trellis]

wait do the TKL keyboards have F1 and so on keys at the top ?

[storm osprey]

yes

only when you start getting into less than 75% do you normally see the function row go away

[proud trellis]

i will most likely get a TKL if they have them keys at the top as i used them often

some of my mates have a 60% and get done over without the function keys to

[storm osprey]

a TKL gmmk with gat blacks is 130 bucks for me

[proud trellis]

would building my own keyboard be cheaper then buying one or would it depend on what PCB and other accessories i have ?

if i could get a cheap hot swappable keyboard and then buy my own switches and probs keycaps i would do it just to save time

[storm osprey]

uhhh... theres so many factors i cant give a straight answer

[proud trellis]

oh

[storm osprey]

you can do piece by piece, buy a kit, barebones, pre assembled, etc

i assume piece by piece and pre assembled are generally the cheaper options but thats kind of a vague statement

welcome to my ted talk

[nova shell]

[short pier]

[honest bison]

Its not enough

[near rune]

Tkl just doesnt have the numpad

And thats pretty inconvenient to press ctrl and then the key

What if a keybind is left ctrl + f1 lets say

It wont detect it

And i use the function keys on bf4

For seat switching

[charred nexus]

just upgraded ram

[nova shell]

It’s plenty

[ancient ridge]

I want to keep a BFV server up any advice? Should I run in like a Virtual machine?

[glass lance]

are they really not planning any 120 Hz support for consoles?

[quick locust]

In 2042 or in general?

[glass lance]

in 2042

[plucky token]

they are to weak to get those stable framerates

[glass lance]

really got that average dice optimisation at release i guess

[wise walrus]

I heard they planning it for later.

And what i know Xbox X running 1440p to dynamic 4k? So i guess their solution for a 120 fps is go down to 1080p which wouldn't be a issue for me, cause then we have 120 fps which is a total difference to 60.

[nova shell]

Not this generation but last gen console

[ancient ridge]

but how tho?

i thought they were like 3060 or 3070 performance?

I don't get

tell me now or Japanese man unclogs your toilet the hard way

and he's serious this time

[coarse nimbus]

Why buy a 3070ti?

[lunar dawn]

they arent and they already said it

its not a matter of resolution bcs that would be even worse, they re already stressing the cpu too hard

128 players is a lot for a console that uses an apu basically

[lunar dawn]

they re not

more like 2070

[coarse nimbus]

Even the newest version?

[nova shell]

My Xbox series X handled the beta battlefield just fine

The console was outputting at 4K 60 HDR a LOCKED 60 fps

[lunar dawn]

its not 4k

its upscaled to4k

not rendered in 4k, thats how consoles work

[nova shell]

The f

I thought that was for 8K

[lunar dawn]

for native 4k you need way better hardware

[lunar dawn]

nah you can also play on native 8k but you need a 3090

i mean the ps5 probably doesnt even output 8k

[rocky marlin]

even pc cant do 8k easily

[nova shell]

Sony says the ps5 can do 8k but they are limited by the bandwidth of the hdmi 2.0 port

[rocky marlin]

8k is more of like a fever dream for consoles now

[lunar dawn]

yeah you need a 3090 to get 8k

maybe

[lunar dawn]

no the ps5 has hdmi 2.1 afaik and it can do 8k

but not gaming at 8k

probably just output

or its downscaled

[nova shell]

According to Nvidia 8k gaming is a thing

[lunar dawn]

i mean you play on a 8k tv but the game is at 1440p for example

[lunar dawn]

it is but its basically impossible

very fee games can run at 8k 60 fos

[nova shell]

Nah they don’t

[lunar dawn]

it does google it

[lunar dawn]

i mean even on pc it is, like you can only play very few games than actually run at that res

like doom eternal

[nova shell]

Ok

Though I wish Sony would support Dolby atmos and vision

[grim bane]

Do you guys think my specs can run BF2042 at 60+ fps at 1080p?
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800x
GPU: rx 5700 xt
RAM: Corsair 16 gb 3000mhz
Motherboard: asus B-550
Psu: corsair 750w

[lunar dawn]

dude

thats literally a high end pc

ofc

[prime jasper]

yeah but like battlefield is battlefield so mans wanted to be sure

[lunar dawn]

i mean if he cant run the game 90% of the community cant as well

[wise walrus]

Give me source on it

[lunar dawn]

google it a dev already said it weeks ago

[wise walrus]

1080p ain't "worse" there is plenty of games with good graphic on 1080p i don't know what u are on.

[lunar dawn]

didnt mean that i meant that lower res = cpu has to do more work i meant it could be worse for the fps, in the beta for example the game was using all my cpu at 1080 and i was cpu bottlenecked and at 1440p i git higher frames bcs higher res=less cpu bottleneck and more gpu bottleneck

higher res = gpu has to do more work

a dev already said they re hammering the cpu with 128 players

lower resolution would require the cpu to do more work

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/qkgf36/no_120_fps_support_for_ps5_or_series_x_at_launch/

here you go

@wise walrus

[storm whale]

i have a 1650 and if bf 2042 doesnt run well then i might refund it

[supple bane]

it wont run well

[short pier]

Super or non super

[storm whale]

non

[supple bane]

what cpu?

[storm whale]

i have i5 10gen

[supple bane]

10400 then

[short pier]

Yeah you'll need low settings with that GPU

[storm whale]

10500h

[supple bane]

ooh.

[storm whale]

yee ik

[short pier]

And you're on a laptop

Zaammn

[storm whale]

yea

[supple bane]

is it a 1650 max Q?

[storm whale]

no

[short pier]

How much did you pay for that bro

[storm whale]

just 1650 i think its ti

yee 1650 ti

[short pier]

Oh then that's much better

[storm whale]

it can run most games

my rdr2 runs very smooth

and am oon win 11

[short pier]

A 1650 ti is pretty solid

[storm whale]

which has better performance in gaming than win 10

[supple bane]

it wont be great. but it will run

[storm whale]

if 50 up fps then me happ

on win 11 u get less cpu and ram usage while gaming

[short pier]

On medium I could see that

[supple bane]

not really

[storm whale]

ohh ok

[supple bane]

its a very small difference

[storm whale]

true but less cpu and ram usage

[supple bane]

it is faster, but its not gonna be the difference between playable and not playable

its like 3 fps higher

[storm whale]

also whats logical processor lol

[storm whale]

hmm true

[short pier]

Actual cores.

The core count

Wait no

That's threads

Logical processors is thread s

[storm whale]

ohh ok

i play a lotta apex and get very sechsy fps

[short pier]

That's off the top of my head

[storm whale]

most of the time 100 or 110+ fps

[supple bane]

apex is ez to run tho.

[storm whale]

yea optimized too

[supple bane]

2042 is probably gonna be the most demanding shooter of this generation

[storm whale]

yea

kinda sad tho

[supple bane]

no. IS going to be the most demanding shooter of this generation

[storm whale]

lol

[short pier]

Bro it's not that hard to run Granty

[supple bane]

bro i was getting <50 fps in the beta

[short pier]

I have a 1060 and I played on medium to high settings 1080p at like 50 to 70 fps

[supple bane]

its really poorly optimised

the beta was at least

[storm whale]

i mean in bf 2042 beta it used to run at like 40 up fps

[supple bane]

just couldnt utilise high end hardware. same as the launch of bfv

[short pier]

Occasionally at c objective when there were like 48 people it would drop to 40 but that was rare

[storm whale]

yea we will have to see it on full realease

[short pier]

But still I was impressed with the performance

[storm whale]

i get 70 up on bf v

[storm whale]

which?

[supple bane]

lmao. the performance was one of the consistent negatives i saw on reviews

[short pier]

2042

[supple bane]

it was terrible.

[storm whale]

no like gpu?

[short pier]

Idk for me and my PC it worked really well

[short pier]

1060 6gb

[storm whale]

1060 very good

[supple bane]

from what ive seen its been like bfv

just cant utilise high end hardware

[short pier]

Nah bruh

[supple bane]

like the launch of bfv i had a 1060, and loads of people on 2080's and 2080tis were complaining of stuttering

[short pier]

What are your specs

[supple bane]

when i upgraded to a 2070 that whole issue was fixed

[storm whale]

lol i was about to ask the same

[short pier]

What is your CPU

[supple bane]

r5 2600

[short pier]

Yeah

Lol

[supple bane]

i know im cpu bottlenecked

[short pier]

C'mon

[storm whale]

is ryzen or intel better

[short pier]

Really doesn't matter look at specs and performance and decide whatever CPU

[storm whale]

k

[short pier]

Some Ryzen CPUs are better some Intel CPUs are better

[storm whale]

true

[short pier]

Just depends

[storm whale]

i think latest ryzen ones are better

[supple bane]

again

it depends

on SO many factors. Its just media. OoH rYzEn gOoD iNtEl SuK

5 years ago it was the exact opposite

[short pier]

All hail Lisa su

[storm whale]

lmao

[storm whale]

yee

[supple bane]

but in reality ryzen couldnt offer any good budget cpus for this generation. the 5600x is like double the price of intels budget cpus

[storm whale]

ye

[supple bane]

but on the other hand, the 5950x is basically peak performance in everything

[vapid estuary]

But its much faster

[lunar dawn]

since your on a laptop, check your temps

[opal cliff]

I hope the system requirements change for the final release lol

[lunar dawn]

if they re high clean the laptop fans, and replace the thermal paste

[lunar dawn]

meanwhile cysis remastered

[raw turtle]

much faster… than what? it’s barely any better than a 11400f with power limits off

[toxic tundra]

Found my old laptop!

[pulsar smelt]

ryzen 5 3500x will be enough for bf2042?

[vapid estuary]

Yea that

[raw turtle]

the 5600x is almost 100$ more, at least in the US

[raw turtle]

yes, but it also depends what GPU it’s paired with

[pulsar smelt]

3060

16 gb

aiming 1080p

[toxic tundra]

My first laptop 😄

[pulsar smelt]

@raw turtle

[raw turtle]

should be enough, enjoy!

[toxic tundra]

My lappy defo couldn't run 2042

[midnight crypt]

Not with that attitude

[tropic field]

ddr2 💀 💀 💀

[nova shell]

Should be fine for chrome

[inner gull]

Hey does anyone know where you can get a ps5

that isnt 1000+ dollars

[midnight crypt]

The store

[honest bison]

its not hard to get

[inner gull]

Do you know any real websites than can get me one around retail price or close to that?

What stores?

[honest bison]

bestbuy does drops from time to time, just join stock radar servers that notify you when there is stock

[inner gull]

Alright

damn

[slim tide]

Is there anyone who knows how to fix the "You have lost connection to EA servers" message on Battlefield V? I just got the game today and I wanted to try and play.

[inner gull]

Channels not for technical support but i recommend checking on the battlefield server status

[ancient ridge]

as it was for ps4 pro when it was a thing

but i mean damn

ps4 pro 4k looks amazing

and i play on pc

like cold war looked good and bfv looked good it looked like I was playing on pc

that's good the resolution looked

How come when you make community game it doesn't save your title if you change it

[molten bramble]

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[wintry prairie]

Cool

[wraith sky]

Cool

[grizzled tulip]

cool

[nova shell]

Amd has a fx cpu at 8.127 gigahertz der8auer

[grizzled tulip]

Nice

[nova shell]

On power efficiency cores or power cores

That’s not true I call bull

Also that’s before reviews went live

So it looks like when the e cores are enabled it’s at 5.5 gigahertz but when it’s just the power cores which is only 8 cores it’s just barely past 8 gigahertz

[wraith sky]

Cool

[prime jasper]

That’s hot

[marsh gull]

tbh its adorable

[marsh gull]

your imagination

but costs 5 times more than a pc with a 3080 ofc

you just have to zoom in on the price tag

[hidden pumice]

bad

[marsh gull]

maybe something to do with origin i had the same problem a while ago

[hidden pumice]

is there any cpu except amd-intel

[stable mountain]

not for PC no

well, technically the M1 chips

unless you want to build a ARM based computer with a mobile phone chip

[marsh gull]

its nice to see competition between flagship cpus but most people want more value-oriented and balanced price/preformance products tbh so this looks cool but does´t peak my interest

[marsh gull]

lmao thats a cool project

[stable mountain]

and just because a CPU has more cores does not make it better, by that logic AMD threadripper would win by default

[marsh gull]

lmao yes

cpus should be rated by real-world preformance, value, price, core count, frquency, architecture and heat output all at ounce, not just one variable

yeah but one that beats a pc with a 3080

[stable mountain]

in what?

[marsh gull]

and btw 900usd is still more expensive than a 3080

[stable mountain]

it's not

GPU's are still hilariously expensive

and you won't do much with a 3080 on it's own

[marsh gull]

the 3080 msrp is 700

[stable mountain]

msrp doesn't exist currently

[marsh gull]

fair enouph

[marsh gull]

also

pretty much yeah but the max mini cant beat a 3080

naa but i see your point

[stable mountain]

the mac minis can game more now with the X86 compatibily i think

also just games being more crossplatform these days in general

a lot of people buy it for status, percieved being better at A/V stuff. (thruth be told they do have better integration into that world so why change), and...it's what they're used to in the US. unlike europe where we mostly used IBM PC's way back then

i have two 3 devices, they all live seperate from eachother

my phone is my phone, the TV is the only thing that plays netflix, and my computer is for everything tht needs power and gaming

[marsh gull]

its a valid use case

[marsh gull]

same but i watch movies on my computer

[stable mountain]

so do i, but not on netflix

and it didn;t freak out on you? impresive

[frigid wharf]

Anyone have any suggestions to fix a No signal display?

I've removed my RAM sticks and cleaned them. No results.

And my Temperature staying at 62C.

[pale quartz]

it's not going to be a temperature, memory, or other hardware problem, it's a GPU or driver level issue

what is the GPU?

[frigid wharf]

3080TI

[pale quartz]

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5233/

dodgy Nvidia BIOS's at work again!

[frigid wharf]

No results

[pale quartz]

what connection are you using?

[prime ore]

any suggestions for CPU's on a total budget of 1200 euro?

[thin iron]

Cpu for what

Gaming, streaming, more?
60-144-240hz?

What gpu do u have

[raw turtle]

1200 euro for a cpu? shiiit man get a 12900k and a nice ass motherboard and good kit of DDR5 and you’ll have the best gaming rig available

[prime ore]

1200 for the entire pc

I was looking at a 5600x and 11400f or something

[prime ore]

gaming, rendering, video editing

for the gpu, I am using my old 1060 until the prices drop further

probably just getting some vengeance ram

16gb ddr4

[marsh gull]

ryzen 5 5600x

[marsh gull]

no not the 11400f the ryzen 5600x has better real world preformance

ive done a lot a research previously believe me cause im also looking for a 1200 euro budget pc

[pale quartz]

you'll be wanting 8 cores if that's the case

6 cores won't cut it for rendering

5800x best pick

[marsh gull]

tru tru the 3700x or the 5800x are better but a bit more expensive

[pale quartz]

paying more
paying less for rendering power

time is money

[marsh gull]

still if it doest fit in his budget lmao

[pale quartz]

an extra $100 isn't going to break the bank

32gb memory will be standard for this type of setup 8x4 kits + motherboard can be had for under his max budget

[raw turtle]

if he’s gonna do rendering, he could save money and get a 11400f and use a good GPU to render the videos

[midnight crypt]

The gpu would be half his budget

Or more

[autumn hollow]

technology

[quick locust]

[marsh gull]

i mean only he can tell

[marsh gull]

lmao yes tbh the 1060 isnt temporarily the worst card he could have rn

[vague gale]

@toxic wigeon how long till the pc? 👀

[toxic wigeon]

Next year

I need to save up for it

[hidden pumice]

im waiting for 9800x

12ghz 58core

[lofty magnet]

Hi. I just updated bfv
And now it's not working

I tried verify the files more than once. Moved it to different partition. Run as administrator. Checked the dpi. Etc

Not working. Any help?

[indigo sail]

@lofty magnet yup

Update to Windows 11

And it'll work

[lofty magnet]

What

Seriously?

[indigo sail]

Happened to me

Yeah

[lofty magnet]

Wow

[indigo sail]

Games stopped working for a while for me

I restarted my pc and did stuff

Nothing worked

But when I updated to Windows 11

It started working

[lofty magnet]

Sigh

Is win 11 stable enough?

[indigo sail]

Yeah it is

[midnight crypt]

contact EA support before doing that

[indigo sail]

No bugs so far

Yeah contact em to make sure

[lofty magnet]

My friend told me that the frames decreased about 15%

[indigo sail]

Well in apex it increased for me lol

[lofty magnet]

Lol

[indigo sail]

Audio got kinda fucked

Nothing else

[lofty magnet]

I reinstalled win 10 with all updates and all the programs I use yesterday.

It will take a long time to redo that all over again

Is win 11 even supported by all apps?

[indigo sail]

No idea

💀

I just updated

And games started working

That's all I know

[lofty magnet]

Haaaa. Guess no choice left

Okay. Thanks guys for the help

[indigo sail]

Np

[lunar dawn]

yes

bcs its basically just an ui update

[lunar dawn]

does he have an amd cpu?

there were problems with that

[midnight crypt]

that was fixed

[lofty magnet]

No 7 10th

2070 card

He didn't update the game yet. I will see how it goes with him

[prime jasper]

apparently intel is back

pretty strong

[lunar dawn]

indeed

[vapid estuary]

Yes

[prime jasper]

they have not released anything interesting for long time so it was about time

[vapid estuary]

I am going to buy one myself on my bday tmw 😔

[prime jasper]

i dont need new cpu atm

i5-12600k will be pretty popular gaming cpu

[vapid estuary]

Yes yes

[prime jasper]

same price as ryzen 5 5600x but delivering much more performance

[vapid estuary]

Yes

Except its 460 dollars compared to 360 dollar 5600x in canada

[opaque saddle]

ddr5 ram are super expensive for now

[supple bane]

by the time im upgrading to a 12600k im hoping ddr5 prices will have settled

[opaque saddle]

not for another 2 years tho...

[pale quartz]

for high quality bins? 2024

[turbid verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EogHCFd7w0

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/windows-11-bug-prevents-apps-from-opening

I have this bug

Is annoying

[tardy nebula]

damn

[prime ore]

problem is money here, I can do enough with a 5600x, budget is like 700 without gpu, I do need a new case and power supply too

[prime ore]

not like anyone will be able to afford alder lake chips lmao

[latent light]

https://youtu.be/XIoHFklOcVQ

This is neat

[vast valley]

If you had to choose between a 5600g or a 5700g, which would you choose, and why?

[opaque saddle]

Neither

[vast valley]

This will be for an under $1k PC.

[opaque saddle]

Without dGPU?

[pale quartz]

where's the neither option

[vast valley]

Don't need a gpu if the cpu has integrated

[opaque saddle]

For gaming? Or general web browsing?

[vast valley]

It might not be the best, but it's a foot in the door for upgrading later on

[opaque saddle]

Coz would rather get a cheap i5 for web browsing

[pale quartz]

if it's trying to have any remote gaming capabilities you can pretty much toss it in the garbage

[opaque saddle]

I just don’t see the point getting a 5600g for gaming if you already have a good gaming pc

[pale quartz]

yeah save the cash and buy decent components you're just burning cash pretty much

[vast valley]

I dont.

That's why I said 1k, all in.

[opaque saddle]

Hmm that’s tough

[vast valley]

For upgrades later

[opaque saddle]

What for? Bf?

[pale quartz]

yeah even then you're pretty much scamming yourself

that won't be capable of anything gaming wise until that GPU slot is filled

the 5700g is just a inferior 3700x with 8 CUs on board

[opaque saddle]

I think what he means is

He wants to get a 5600g or 5700g first

[latent light]

5700G is Zen 3 tho

[vast valley]

How? The cpu has integrated graphics and can play games like New World at 30fps.

[opaque saddle]

And get a good GPU later

[pale quartz]

see above

[vast valley]

Correct.

[latent light]

Might as well get a Xbox Series S for $300 instead of a fucking iGPU

[pale quartz]

it has Zen 3 cores

it is nowhere near a Zen 3 class desktop CPU

the cache onboard is cut massively

[opaque saddle]

@vast valley are you aiming to get a RTX 3060 or above in the future?

[latent light]

5700G is less than double digit performance loss compared to 5800X

Closer to a 5800X than 3800XT lmao

[pale quartz]

pretty significant loss considering you're talking about the same cores

[autumn hollow]

technology

[latent light]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-technology-patrick-hung-gif-5567497

[autumn hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/kip-technology-love-napoleon-gif-5150148

[latent light]

I can't justify spending $500+ on a PC with integrated graphics, rather have a console lol

[pale quartz]

even at that laptops have better performance and are cheaper

[opaque saddle]

Tbh I will just get a 3060 with a cheap 10th Gen i5 and call it a day. That will come closer to your budget if your local computer stores didn’t mark up their prices too rapidly @vast valley

[latent light]

At least consoles these days are 120Hz capable

[opaque saddle]

Rather than getting a 5600g alone

[autumn hollow]

just print money

[latent light]

I heard BF2042 is capped at 60Hz on Xbox Series and PS5

[pale quartz]

it is

[vast valley]

Eventually a 3000 series, yes.

But I'm not spending $600+ on a GPU. I refuse.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RXtmnL

This isn't the exact build I'm looking at, but it's similar

[opaque saddle]

Hmm it seems it cost too much from are you live

Coz our asus 3060 is 759 AUD

so around 500 USD without tax

[vast valley]

Scalpers. They still exist

[opaque saddle]

Your build is just too fancy

[pale quartz]

you're going to need to downgrade that memory

Asus does not certify 4000MHz on that board

and you're going into 2:1 range with it aswell

chances are it won't even boot

[opaque saddle]

Look. You can pay $1000 for the parts you have selected. Or $700 with the correct parts

[vast valley]

Yeah I'm aware. This is just a quick list that I threw together. I don't have my actual link

[pale quartz]

cl163600 is what you're looking for

[opaque saddle]

Wait up

[vast valley]

Let me grab the link of my build from my work computer

[opaque saddle]

Pick a motherboard first, before you pick RAM

Coz some ram sticks won’t even boot on 3000 series Ryzen

[vast valley]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDMB8J

[pale quartz]

it's Zen 3 not Zen 2

[vast valley]

That's the build I'm looking at

[pale quartz]

yeah that'll work fine

[vast valley]

The exact build

[opaque saddle]

Nope. You don’t understand. I’m talking about the overall compatibility

[autumn hollow]

lol

[latent light]

Apparently the latency of the best currently available DDR5 kit is comparable to a CL20 3600MHz DDR4 kit

[pale quartz]

overall compatibility differs from Zen 2 and Zen 3 Zen 2 only supports up to 3200 for 1:1 FCLK Zen 3 supports up to 3600 for 1:1 guaranteed FCLK on the IMC

[latent light]

DDR5 as of now is worse than DDR4 for gaming

[opaque saddle]

It will work if the manufacturer have listed it is compatible

[pale quartz]

outside of that it's the silicon lottery

and nothing is guaranteed to work

[vast valley]

And eventuality, yes, I'll be upgrading up to a 3000 series card. And I'll also be upgrading the CPU when that happens too.

[autumn hollow]

intel or amd?

[vast valley]

AMD

[autumn hollow]

k