Hm.
#technology
slim quarry
Well playing with RTX Shaders settings will be funny
Also RTX 2060 is newer than 1080 ti.
earnest cape
For futureproof decision. RTX cards seems fit more in modern days.
supple bane
its newer but also slower
earnest cape
But yeah like that
supple bane
but i wouldnt upgrade to either, they are both old
not unless you get a really killer deal on ebay
supple bane
doesnt matter
earnest cape
At least most reasonable upgrades if you want (in terms foe performance) is 2070 Super or 2080
supple bane
a 2060 is already coming to the end of its life tho.
buying it now is kinda a waste of money
sure it will be a big upgrade to a gtx 900 series card, but there will be better deals out there with 3000 series soon enough
hopefully
slim quarry
I can buy RTX 3060 with my budget now.
But.
I need also upgrade my cooling system at pc and change case, cuz it's too old
So I can offer gtx 1080 ti, rtx 2060 only
supple bane
that isnt a reason to get a 2060 over a 3060 lol
if you get a decent 3060, it wont matter
its not a high power card
slim quarry
I know.
supple bane
wait
the 1080ti draws more power than the 3060
if you are worried about keeping a 3060 cool youve got no chance with a 1080ti
slim quarry
But..
It's would explode at my pc case without nice cooling on processor and nice case
supple bane
but it draws the same amount of power as a 2060 and less than a 1080ti
slim quarry
I got case from microlab
supple bane
if you were considering a 1080ti then you shouldnt worry about a 3060
slim quarry
It's so old.
Well.
I gonna get more dollars and offer RTX 3060 then pc case and cooling from be quiet.
It's would be nice
quick locust
earnest cape
In that case save some more and invested in 3060 is also a good choice. You got newer cards and newer cooling system for futureproof. 3060 is good at 1080p gaming on most games so that's the best bet.
supple bane
3060 is good for 1440p in all games
earnest cape
Alright then, hope it clear things up. Patience is the key. Save more for your rig. Good luck!
heavy crow
tech
ancient ridge
Do you show your scoreboard when streaming is it ok to show scoreboard?
hollow remnant
how do i remove the open beta from my account
ancient ridge
alt-f4
edgy jungle
Hey... weird tech question; I'm on Ethernet, but whenever I play BF/online games, I suffer from legit unbearable packet loss. Is there anything I can do?
pale quartz
Hey... weird tech question; I'm on Ethernet, but whenever I play BF/online games...
what is this console/pc and is there a network switch involved
bold forge
What's a good strategy for finding a gpu, and do you guys think it'd be a better idea to wait on the market/how long do you think?
warm forge
Me wants GPU
prime jasper
"3060 good for 1440p" keep in mind 3060 = 2060/s
1080ti = 2070s/2080
Litrally 2 times faster.
3060 worst value gpu out atm.
Other than 3080ti
dry pike
"3060 good for 1440p" keep in mind 3060 = 2060/s
1080ti = 2070s/2080
Litrally ...
That is a very simplified conclusion but sure.
pale quartz
That is a very simplified conclusion but sure.
it may be simplified, but its correct
chrome skiff
pale quartz
Anyone know if I can install 5600x on h110m s2h cf?
no lol
the h110 chipset is an intel board
prime jasper
My pc is old asf I want to change most of the parts
Got it in 2016 and haven’t changed anything
pale quartz
you will need a b450/x470+ board to install ryzen 5000
dry pike
it may be simplified, but its correct
Buying used is a value gamble. Doesn't take into account Tensor core performance used for Reflex, DLSS etc. + it is very hard to talk value with the part availability around the world. Would be easier to make conclusions if the GFX cards actually were in stock and sold at around MSRP.
prime jasper
Thx @pale quartz
pale quartz
Buying used is a value gamble. Doesn't take into account Tensor core performance...
thats what the current market prices are taking into consideration, its a fact that they lose at 1440p, taking gimmick features into account doesnt make the conclusion about raw raster, incorrect
they still lose at 1440p and are more expensive one way or another
dry pike
If I were to get a graphics card right now in that range I would have the option of a 3060ti for like 752 euro or a 2060 for 540 euro or a 1660 at a equally bad price. Can a 3060 really be considered bad value when it's about the only value there is to get at that pricerange? 
hollow remnant
how do i remove the 2042 beta from my account
dry pike
You just hide it
prime jasper
If I were to get a graphics card right now in that range I would have the option...
Considering 3060ti is a 2080 super and that has litrally 3 times the performance vs 3060 for 40% higher price. Yes thats vaule
Value dosnt necessarily mean cheap
Means what you can get out of your dollar
3060 loses terribly
Best value gpu atm is 6800xt due to its absolute monster raw power for 650$ wich anyone here can buy every Thursday morning as its always in stock on amd's website
No one here should complain that they can't find gpus. You gotta look
supple bane
you know, not everyone lives in the same place as you..
torpid barn
how can I buy a graphics card for 200€?
supple bane
here the list price for a 6800xt is 1300 bucks, and even then, its out of stock.
supple bane
the only cards that are in stock here are 6900xt's, 3080tis and 3090s
and they are only in stock because some of them are well over 3000 dollars
torpid barn
jesus christ
atomic jackal
im still angry at the fact that i could not get a 3060 ti and had to do with a 3060
%40 difference for 100 bucks is insane
but i mean
at least i have a gpu
honest bison
how can I buy a graphics card for 200€?
I would save up more
You wont get anything good with that
atomic jackal
how can I buy a graphics card for 200€?
no,not in this time,you cant
better dish out at least double more of that
torpid barn
i have expanses
near rune
how can I buy a graphics card for 200€?
you mean how or what graphics card
if you mean how just buy from a store
torpid barn
I mean there isnt anything decent for 200€. last gen
even if nvidia launches a 3500 for 200€ thats not going to be the real price
pale quartz
I mean there isnt anything decent for 200€. last gen
the 200 and sub price genre is gone and will never return
midnight crypt
Ye you need to atleast add 100$ or more to that
prime jasper
here the list price for a 6800xt is 1300 bucks, and even then, its out of stock.
Amd site is 650$, you are not able to logg in on amds website?
supple bane
Amd site is 650$, you are not able to logg in on amds website?
Thats where i looked
But like i said, the amd site isnt just for the US
ancient pasture
honestly all u need is just a stick of ram to play this game
specifically 512 mg
mb
proud trellis
Eh
abstract wigeon
I have a 3080 and i dont know what cpu i should get. would i be dumb to use a 5600x? or would it be worth it to go 5800x instead
honest bison
I have a 3080 and i dont know what cpu i should get. would i be dumb to use a 56...
Get 5800x
vapid estuary
5800x if u have the money obv but 5600x wont bottleneck 3080 if its 1440p or plus in most cases
fading ore
could anyone help with why a xbox controller (elite v2) on PC is not working in BF4 but works perfectly in BFV
modern ravine
"3060 good for 1440p" keep in mind 3060 = 2060/s
1080ti = 2070s/2080
Litrally ...
isnt 3060ti more powerful than 2080ti
prime jasper
isnt 3060ti more powerful than 2080ti
no, 3070 = 2080ti
modern ravine
2080 then?
prime jasper
3060ti is hair hair faster than 2080
queen field
roughly
3060 = 1080TI
3070 = 2080TI
prime jasper
3060 is slower than 1080ti
queen field
yes, hence the word roughly
modern ravine
well my 1070ti did 55 flat on ultra 1080p on the beta
prime jasper
not even in the same ball park
queen field
funny, the 3060 has 12GB VRAM while 3060TI is 8GB
near rune
Anyone know how to make shadowplay record only ingame sounds, not music or discord or browser
modern ravine
funny, the 3060 has 12GB VRAM while 3060TI is 8GB
i dont think it affect perfromance
queen field
@modern ravine mmh
pale quartz
i dont think it affect perfromance
not in raw raster performance
it can and will impact performance if the application takes up the full 8GB VRAM buffer, which is why the 3060ti and 3070 lose to the 3060 at 4k
honest bison
would the performance bump be worth the extra $200+?
6 core cpu isnt quite enough to fully use a 3080, trust me
vapid estuary
it can and will impact performance if the application takes up the full 8GB VRAM...
3060 is still slower than 3060ti and 3070 in 4k even tho it has bigger vram
pale quartz
3060 is still slower than 3060ti and 3070 in 4k even tho it has bigger vram
note that I said under the very specific circumstance where the VRAM is fully consumed
vapid estuary
i know
edgy jungle
what is this console/pc and is there a network switch involved
PC, and no. I'm plugged directly into my router
Sorry for the late response
prime jasper
keep in mind, that 12gb bus is half vs 3060ti
@pale quartz
So it's really close on the same vram
abstract wigeon
6 core cpu isnt quite enough to fully use a 3080, trust me
Bottleneck calculator says 3080 5600x is only 0.38% bottleneck or something
pale quartz
prime jasper
There's a bottleneck calculator? LOL jesus
honest bison
Bottleneck calculator says 3080 5600x is only 0.38% bottleneck or something
Look at actual game benchmarks. That calculator means nothing
pale quartz
not sure why that was important enough to tag me
vapid estuary
Bottleneck calculator says 3080 5600x is only 0.38% bottleneck or something
Dont trust it
prime jasper
not sure why that was important enough to tag me
smaller bus would = more vram usage
pale quartz
PC, and no. I'm plugged directly into my router
if you're plugged directly into the router check for server rejection or some sort of collision at a CDN
prime jasper
Bottleneck calculator says 3080 5600x is only 0.38% bottleneck or something
I was cpu bottlenecked on the beta, this is using 5800x and 3090. 3080/90's will get bottlenecked on modern day cpus in some games
pale quartz
smaller bus would = more vram usage
yes.. in some hypothetical world where the 3060ti has 12GB ofc it's going to be the case but it has 8GB
pale quartz
I specifically said where the VRAM buffer is entirely full on 8GB, the wider bus isn't going to help at all when it's still entirely consumed
it still loses
prime jasper
Also 3060 wont have enough horsepower to use that 12gb in games anyway lol
pale quartz
yeah I never denied that just not sure why it was found necessary to tag me
left widget
Hey guys how do i use my gpu instead of my cpu for battlefield is that even possible
pale quartz
no
pale quartz
🤨 people have sleep patterns you know lol
vapid estuary
Then go to bed
pale quartz
Will they make the game able to run on gpu cause my cpu is only 5 2600
I have no idea
I'm not DICE
weak girder
🤨 people have sleep patterns you know lol
you were online 5 mn before he tagged you
...
pale quartz
it was a question more than anything, not that important
weak girder
also he just tagged you, you dont have to be a dick abt it
pale quartz
I wasn't.. nevermind
magic terrace
Hey guys how do i use my gpu instead of my cpu for battlefield is that even poss...
Computers dont work that way
distant sail
yo why tf does my game keep saying internet connection error and kicks me out the game
young tiger
nice man
molten bramble
Don't be rude and don't tag folks if they're not actively engaged in chat.
How about you follow the rules. The chat was read, which is why you were warned in-channel. If you have an issue with that, you can once again follow the rules and DM ModMail about it. Do not further disrupt this channel.
@prime jasper I would encourage you not to walk any lines.
edgy jungle
if you're plugged directly into the router check for server rejection or some so...
Alright: how does one do that?
slim quarry
In that case save some more and invested in 3060 is also a good choice. You got ...
Offered RTX 3060 Mini from Asus on 12 GB.
Don't have money for bought nice rtx 3060 so decided to buy mini version
earnest cape
I'm glad you got a new graphics card. Have fun with gaming!
prime jasper
How can I get an rtx 3060 for cheap prices
Do you guys sell one?
Like 10 or 100 dollars
marsh gull
Hey guys how do i use my gpu instead of my cpu for battlefield is that even poss...
guess
mystic oyster
Hey guys how do i use my gpu instead of my cpu for battlefield is that even poss...
Do you mean the integrated graphics of your cpu ?
Also the game runs on All of the components to make it short and clean
Clear
prime jasper
how to fix battlefield 1 ea lost connection to server ? someone know ? dm me would be so nice
hidden fable
yo does anyone know why this is happening to me i bought battlefield 2042 from epic games and i played like 2 days then this happened https://gyazo.com/4e5282ff44d91320da46f07ffb3769b6
https://gyazo.com/305dc761fd47a80ee80680bc1dc14195 i bought the game from epic games standard edition and i can't play it on origin or on epic games
no more
can someone play me out so i can play the game i paid for
earnest cape
You mean that one on the right in your first image?
It is not available anymore because the open beta is already closed.
zenith tusk
yo does anyone know why this is happening to me i bought battlefield 2042 from e...
the open beta is ended
calm condor
so he paid for it and he cant play, oh noo that is so bad he need to refund asap!!!
hidden fable
so he paid for it and he cant play, oh noo that is so bad he need to refund asap...
nice try
pale quartz
Alright: how does one do that?
use software called tracert with CMD to check your local relays to EAs server - execute CMD with administrator privileges then type tracert with the IP address of the closest EA server to your location, if there are any node issues causing packet dropouts you should be able to find out that way
mortal cliff
dry pike
Fake comment, nothing with penguins can be scored 0/10
proud trellis
anyone know how i can stop getting kicked by punkbuster in BF3 ?
vernal olive
can any moderator help me for now ?
near rune
anyone know how i can stop getting kicked by punkbuster in BF3 ?
i think i have a forum article of it on my friends dms
ill see if i can find it
quick locust
anyone know how i can stop getting kicked by punkbuster in BF3 ?
!!pb
bot ded
ah you already did in general
near rune
that is just for bf4
i remember you had to update it with the pb exe
then verify files
there was txt file aswell
wheat iron
So I got the beta on my PC and I'm having some weird issues that I can't find online. I'm using a PS4 controller and it just randomly looks straight up into the sky like every 10sec. Even if I don't touch the controller. It does it on all 3 of my PS4 controllers which work fine in other games. It's extremely frustrating and makes the game unplayable. Also the control icons don't remap to PS4 just show Xbox icons.
quick locust
So I got the beta on my PC and I'm having some weird issues that I can't find on...
Report to the forum for 2042 bugs
wheat iron
Where is that located?
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dry pike
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prime jasper
Hi
knotty crypt
i have a i5-9600k oc to 4.5ghz, will a 3080ti bottleneck the cpu?
i dont think it will, and if it does, it will be a very small percentage right?
pale quartz
i dont think it will, and if it does, it will be a very small percentage right?
no you are CPU bottlenecked not GPU bottlenecked
and by quite a substantial amount
pale quartz
^ just don't expect anything amazing to come from it
knotty crypt
thanks
storm osprey
if you are playing at higher resolutions that will help if you are not limited by core count
quick locust
It should be ok in that
Not great but decent enough
It's 6c6t
Depending on game of course
storm osprey
yee -stares at 2042-
quick locust
Yeah
storm osprey
at least i assume, i honestly dont know what 2042 like with core count
quick locust
Though that was still a beta
supple bane
for majority of games, a 9600k should be fine for a 3080ti at 1440p. especially if you have it at 5ghz (which it is more than capable of doing with the right cooler)
pale quartz
I was at 12 threads of utilisation with my 5900x, it's thread and IPC bound
supple bane
but bf, thats a different beast sadly
pale quartz
in other words a 4c/8t system is going to be less "thread bound" than the 9600k
knotty crypt
i just wanna play 144hz at 2k
supple bane
yeah good luck with that buddy lmao
pale quartz
i just wanna play 144hz at 2k
yeah that won't happen lmao
supple bane
someone on a 10700k is only getting 100,
knotty crypt
with medium settings rhough?
supple bane
low
knotty crypt
i dont play games on high unless its campaign
pale quartz
with medium settings rhough?
for 144 frames at 1440p you're going to need state of the art hardware, that is a 5800x/5900x/zen3d or alder lake when it launches
supple bane
i honestly dont think its possible with our current spec list
what fps did you get deco on a 5900x?
pale quartz
I'm on a 5900x, I can achieve around 150 on medium settings at 1440p
supple bane
oh alright
pale quartz
albeit tinkering with settings is required
supple bane
sadly dlss wont affect fps if its cpu bound also
chrome skiff
The beta doesnt run great but i was between 150-170 comfortably playing
knotty crypt
well that was for beta, there will be better optimization
pale quartz
and that's a 6800xt which is faster than a 3080ti at 1440p so not really comparable
pale quartz
sadly dlss wont affect fps if its cpu bound also
^
supple bane
and im VERY cpu bound so. 40 fps here i come
quick locust
i just wanna play 144hz at 2k
Remember, 2K is about 1080 not 1440
pale quartz
well that was for beta, there will be better optimization
yeah I'm sorry to inform you but you aren't going to achieve 144 frames whatsoever even if the game is delayed by 2 years for "optimisation"
opaque saddle
I remember the my 960 got 25-30fps on BFV pre beta
pale quartz
you're totally and utterly hardware bound
knotty crypt
gotcha
supple bane
my poor little 2600 simply couldnt keep up in the beta lmao
dropping into the 30s at some times, gpu may as well been idle
opaque saddle
My 3600 is struggling to get above 3.9ghz while gaming
supple bane
do you have PBO on?
chrome skiff
It was using about 60-70% of my 5900x with a 3080ti getting im assuming similar fps My 6900xt was doing the same fps not any different imo
quick locust
I got around 100-110 in the beta at 1440 high
opaque saddle
I have to lower my settings to 2560x1080 to get a solid 120fps on 2070S
supple bane
right at the start of the round in the spawn i got a peek into the 80s, but that dropped out quickly once the match started
chrome skiff
My woman uses a 2070 at 1080p and was getting about 150 fps on the beta too
opaque saddle
It doesn’t go really well at 1440p with my 2070S
chrome skiff
her? 3700x me 5900x
supple bane
cuz im also on a 2070 and didnt get close to that
crazy
3700x giving a 300% boost over a 2600
pale quartz
My 3600 is struggling to get above 3.9ghz while gaming
normal occurrence on Zen 2
chrome skiff
4.5 all core with 3733 cl15 15 15
opaque saddle
I always feels like hitting the 144hz mark is a luxury
chrome skiff
ran fine imo didnt feel bad
pale quartz
Zen 2 wasn't exactly the best with clock speeds because of a limited CCX connection
3.9 is actually fairly respectable given the die of a 3600x
opaque saddle
Well. I figured it out before I said it here
Coz I have PBO on, googled it and pretty much every one got similar results
Unless I OC it Manually
supple bane
why dont you?
opaque saddle
But it can’t OC too much
supple bane
you wont see much of an improvement, but hey
pale quartz
my poor little 2600 simply couldnt keep up in the beta lmao
my 5900x is handicapped right now by around 10% because of the CPPC2 bug with windows 11, once that's fixed and if determined to push my 6800xt to 2.6GHz it's maybe possible I can achieve 144 at high 1440p, but that's pushing everything to the absolute limit
opaque saddle
I have tried OC it but it doesn’t get much performance gains
pale quartz
OC'ing Zen 2 will actually degrade single core performance most of the time
isn't worth the effort
opaque saddle
This is one of the reasons I left PBO on
opaque saddle
Wait up
supple bane
my 5900x is handicapped right now by around 10% because of the CPPC2 bug with wi...
i havent updated to windows 11 mainly for this reason. i believe this is what was giving me the input lag issue we discussed a while back btw. i rolled back to 10 after that and havent gone back since
it would explain why my fps was down a load at the same time, and also why it was so sudden
pale quartz
i havent updated to windows 11 mainly for this reason. i believe this is what wa...
yeah I haven't noticed the actual issue on my end the CPPC2 bug is largely sporadic, it's stable enough anyways
pale quartz
just means when it's fixed I get more performance, can't complain at that
opaque saddle
This is the X570 I got
pale quartz
This is the X570 I got
got it update your BIOS and a look for a feature called PBO FMAX
it is a feature that is on Asus boards which priorities single core performance for PBO
opaque saddle
I did upgrade my bios a few months ago
pale quartz
you should probably upgrade it now to close security vulnerabilities, if there is one available
which there should be
opaque saddle
However, I kinda like gave up on it coz the more I care about it, the more I get a bit upset I didn’t get the 3700x at that time
At that time
pale quartz
yeah it's buyer's remorse at the "if I bought X instead"
opaque saddle
I usually get the higher tier products
Except I didn’t get the 3700x coz it wasn’t on special offer at the time
pale quartz
I went from the 2700x > 3700x > 5900x, no regrets
opaque saddle
I’m trying avoid getting new parts coz I’m saving up for a surgery
supple bane
im unsure if to upgrade my cpu this christmas or wait
opaque saddle
So i estimated what I would be getting is a new hdd
opaque saddle
im unsure if to upgrade my cpu this christmas or wait
Black Friday
supple bane
because ill need cpu, motherboard, ram and psu
and at that point i could just wait for rtx 4000 and get a whole new pc along with ryzen 6000
opaque saddle
You know you can always wait
But sometimes it can be wasting your time the more you waited
Just like the RTX 3000 series… people regretted getting 2080ti or 2080S at that time
chrome skiff
I just sold my other 3700x for 150 bucks to a kid at the gas station with his dad, sold his dad my 2080ti 7 months ago too
opaque saddle
Turns out people who didn’t get 2080Ti for the first year also, regretted not getting either 2080ti or 3070
pale quartz
because ill need cpu, motherboard, ram and psu
Lovelace is not launching till Q4/2023
so you'll be waiting a while
pale quartz
end of 2022
supple bane
hmm
opaque saddle
You can always wait
pale quartz
ADL and zen3d are coming out very soon
quick locust
DG2 is 2022 as well
pale quartz
however they will not be cheap
pale quartz
DG2 is 2022 as well
^
quick locust
ADL will be interesting, wonder when I have a reason to replace my 8700K
pale quartz
DG2 will be out before RDNA3, how much that matters when AMD are targeting close to 2x performance gains over RDNA2, is your decision
opaque saddle
Anyway I’m happy with the computer I current have
I would go for 5 years per big upgrade route
pale quartz
I would go for 5 years per big upgrade route
those days are actually coming to an end now
at most 3/4 years is optimal
opaque saddle
You know I’m still using my 4th intel, right…
It just didn’t die on me
Perhaps I got the more premium parts, (not the top tier one)
pale quartz
oh for sure I was on a 3700k for years, however the days of not upgrading for 5 years are on deaths door
quick locust
I would have upgraded long ago if I was on 7700K i think
But my 8700K is doing well
opaque saddle
I used to care too much about my computer. Nowadays I hoped it works without a hassle
Coz the PC spec race will never end
honest bison
i wont upgrade my pc till ddr5 and next next gen cpus are here
because first gen ddr5 will be not very well implemented, so I will give it another year to see how it evolves
slim quarry
I bought battlefield 5 and launched on my gtx 950 on low settings in HD and it's looks like potato minecraft graphics, I changed on ultras and graphic card loaded only on 40% help pls.
And I have like 200 fps on ultras which insane.
And it's so blurred and potato
light wave
oh for sure I was on a 3700k for years, however the days of not upgrading for 5 ...
Deco, help this old man, how can I clean my pc easily without pulling apart the whole thing? My GPU could use some love.
pale quartz
Deco, help this old man, how can I clean my pc easily without pulling apart the ...
what are you wanting to do, the hardware?
slim quarry
I don't have issues with graphic card, it's running bf 1 as well.
light wave
what are you wanting to do, the hardware?
Yup, got really dusty.
slim quarry
Well.. Can someone help..?
light wave
Nevermind me, try helping Water first. He needs help more than I do.
slim quarry
Yep.
pale quartz
Yup, got really dusty.
it isn't required to actually take out the hardware, get a can of compressed air and at most disconnect the fans, make sure the compressed air has aerosol so it has a good pressure ratio
and use it clear any dust from vents, the GPU heatsink etc
you'll clear it most of it using that, the fans will need to be manually cleaned because of how thin the gaps are but that's about all
for the fans simply wipe down each blade individually, no real maintenance needed
light wave
I'll cry.
pale quartz
I bought battlefield 5 and launched on my gtx 950 on low settings in HD and it's...
you are CPU bound, the game will not use the entirety of the GPU if the CPU does not have enough single core integer performance to push the frame rate
slim quarry
I got Ryzen 5 3600
pale quartz
I'll cry.
yeah no compressed air's going to be enough for that cover, you'll need to take it off and manually clean it, but for the inside you should be good for aerosol
that's ironically a good thing, even if it shows the large amount of dust in your room
slim quarry
Well..
quick locust
dust
pale quartz
I bought battlefield 5 and launched on my gtx 950 on low settings in HD and it's...
I don't understand what your question is?
turbid verge
pale quartz
the game can't fully load it's textures on a 970, that is normal behaviour
pale quartz
your card doesn't have enough VRAM to utilise ultra textures, which is why it turns into "Minecraft graphics"
you'll need to allocate a range which is enough for it
slim quarry
I bought bf 5 today and uh
Launched multi-player game and uhh
Potato graphics
Holy it's run on ultras
GTX 950 on 2GB
pale quartz
it isn't actually "running" at ultra
slim quarry
Well it is but
pale quartz
what you are seeing is a half version of that quality
slim quarry
Graphics worse.
pale quartz
not actually ultra
the engine cannot load it's full texture budget which is why the graphics appear worse, and why performance increases
you are seeing essentially a version of low graphics, if not worse
slim quarry
I seeing half yeah..
pale quartz
your card can only realistically use 3.5GB of VRAM as Maxwell prioritises 500MB allocations as cache memory, if used your performance will tank
slim quarry
Well.
pale quartz
and 4GB isn't enough either for ultra textures
slim quarry
I seen gamers playing on low settings with nice graphics.. Not like me.
light wave
Yeah, took me a while to clean the filter, my radiator seems a bit clogged lol, I need to get PWM fans in the dront as well.
pale quartz
Yeah, took me a while to clean the filter, my radiator seems a bit clogged lol, ...
radiators are basically dust magnets because of the high RPM of stock AIO fans
slim quarry
I seen video where man tested my graphics card at that game and everything was good on 2gb vram.
pale quartz
which is filters not being used for AIOs is basically impossible
light wave
radiators are basically dust magnets because of the high RPM of stock AIO fans
My front fans are crappy stock ones from the case, they run full blast all the time. 
slim quarry
I played other performance games and all okay.
Maybe it's only me see those potato graphics.
pale quartz
My front fans are crappy stock ones from the case, they run full blast all the t...
get them switched out god
theyll be louder than your GPU
slim quarry
Other 2gb cards can run that game on low settings in 60 fps with nice quality..
Uh..
pale quartz
yes a 1050 can "run" the game, the 970 is a Maxwell architecture card, it's pretty dated
light wave
Other 2gb cards can run that game on low settings in 60 fps with nice quality..
Well, different games have different engines, that handle resources differently, hence the varied results, I'd assume.
pale quartz
it isnt a Pascal card
Maxwell was a pretty awful architecture which is something I won't get into
slim quarry
Well.
Okay.
What if I say that I had bf 5 on other account with same graphic card and it run perfectly without potato graphics..?
pale quartz
then you've got some kind of memory corruption or some other issue which is too sporadic to diagnose
pale quartz
yes, hence the term, sporadic problem
slim quarry
Ohh
light wave
What if I say that I had bf 5 on other account with same graphic card and it run...
Graphics settings are tied to accounts, I'd cross reference settings on both and narrow down the culprit that way.
slim quarry
Oh yeah maybe
I tested bf 5 on directx 11
With old drivers..
Maybe I update it and it get better
But
Uhh
Maybe I really need a new graphic card.
quick locust
My front fans are crappy stock ones from the case, they run full blast all the t...
if they run 100% all the time and they're plugged into MB, you're probably using wrong mode for them
pale quartz
I can't really tell you what your problem is because there's too many possible areas of failure, have a look at some diagnostic information but it's as far as I'm able to go
pale quartz
it could be driver, hardware or software level, and that's too much time to find out which one
light wave
Maybe you are trying to run the game with DX12 on one account and DX11 on the other, with the DX11 one performing better
slim quarry
Cuz that already 4 years old card.
light wave
Try looking into that, too.
slim quarry
Ik..
pale quartz
Maxwell is actually older than 5 years
pale quartz
released in 2014 you're talking nearing a decade
pale quartz
you'll find the drivers on Nvidias website
light wave
if they run 100% all the time and they're plugged into MB, you're probably using...
They are set to auto, but for some reason the fan control runs them at max whenever there's any load on the CPU.
quick locust
Nvidia website, just search
light wave
Tried using a friend's Corsair LL120's and those were being controlled just fine.
pale quartz
They are set to auto, but for some reason the fan control runs them at max whene...
wait is this a 2 pin fan?
quick locust
Are they set to right mode
light wave
wait is this a 2 pin fan?
Yeah they're those dodgy ones.
quick locust
Most boards will auto detect but if not they can run at 100%
pale quartz
Yeah they're those dodgy ones.
it won't work
PWM depends on 3 pin modules for the fans
otherwise they will run in DC
quick locust
Switch to DC and control via voltage
pale quartz
^
quick locust
That's what my case fans do as well
light wave
PWM depends on 3 pin modules for the fans
Yeah, I know they lack PWM. Hence why I want to swap em, they look crappy too :^(
pale quartz
DC is, shaky, don't expect it to work pretty well
pale quartz
Yeah, I know they lack PWM. Hence why I want to swap em, they look crappy too :^...
if you're cutting it for space you can get a single PWM fan header splitter for the motherboard to connect to the fans
they'll all run at the same PWM settings as each other
pale quartz
..?
quick locust
i reversed mine by accident a while ago
so that they were low when set to high
on the case switches
lol
pale quartz
quick locust
i found DC to work pretty well with these fans though, dont really have an issue
pale quartz
DC itself is fine it's just plagued with issues of ignoring BIOS configurations/doing it's own thing/resetting configurations
quick locust
yeah
light wave
I'll be changing loads of stuff anyways, so learning to do a custom loop will probably break me lol
pale quartz
you'll hate yourself constantly needing to refill the water and enjoy buying new hardware if there's a leak
supple bane
Youd be supprised how water resistant components are really
Obviously if your loop goes through explosive decompression type leakage your a bit stuffed
light wave
you'll hate yourself constantly needing to refill the water and enjoy buying new...
I'd take that over my partner complaining about the noise and dust.
supple bane
But a few drips wont do anything
pale quartz
I'd take that over my partner complaining about the noise and dust.
oh you'll quickly find out otherwise once you experience a pump failure or some other error
water corrosion can happen pretty easily
light wave
water corrosion can happen pretty easily
I've heard there are ways to prevent that, or at least slow it down.
pale quartz
there are, but they aren't fullproof
pale quartz
water corrosion is just a natural byproduct of water itself ^
supple bane
I thought you was specifically talking about the whole cross metal thing
pale quartz
oh nah
light wave
water corrosion is just a natural byproduct of water itself ^
Well, yeah, oxidizing and whatnot. I'm aware of that.
supple bane
Copper and aluminum
pale quartz
put it this way there's a reason custom loops are going to make you cry enough from your wallet to fill up the entire loop
light wave
put it this way there's a reason custom loops are going to make you cry enough f...
Well there's two of us working in the same industry, both our wallets can cry together haha
pale quartz
Well there's two of us working in the same industry, both our wallets can cry to...
pfft I'm not insane enough to use my own loop tyvm
light wave
pfft I'm not insane enough to use my own loop tyvm
I meant my partner, Deco 
pale quartz
I meant my partner, Deco <:leo:760110335687524423>
she'll say the same thing!
if she knows to retain her sanity from PC's anyways
light wave
Nahhh, she bugged me about getting a loop, she pays a % lol
light wave
Plus, I paid for the house, I ain't got no more for the damn loop juice for now lol
heavy crow
tech
pale quartz
Nahhh, she bugged me about getting a loop, she pays a % lol
i think I figured out why I'm single
light wave
By the way, what would be your first choice for loop components?
light wave
i think I figured out why I'm single
How come? I see it as coop mode lol
pale quartz
depends
pale quartz
How come? I see it as coop mode lol
if my gf bugged me to do that, I'd be signing myself up for an insane asylum
well ex*
light wave
if my gf bugged me to do that, I'd be signing myself up for an insane asylum
Nah that came naturally, just happened
pale quartz
pale quartz
How come? I see it as coop mode lol
generally you can't go wrong with EK
honest bison
Nah that came naturally, just happened
Are you a developer of BF2042 
pale quartz
would be my first choice, if I was forced to, for some reason, build one
light wave
would be my first choice, if I was forced to, for some reason, build one
Thought about that one, saw they have leak kits too.
light wave
Are you a developer of BF2042 <:9791_pepe:786430742661824553>
In some capacity, yes.
pale quartz
Thought about that one, saw they have leak kits too.
they do, if you're thinking about going with premium stuff like custom loops in the first place, it pays for itself to stump up the extortion so you've got peace of mind
light wave
they do, if you're thinking about going with premium stuff like custom loops in ...
Got a P750GM firecracker PSU to toss out before that though
honest bison
In some capacity, yes.
Please make sure that the game ends up being heking amazing-!! and to buff the helis rockets and minigun
pale quartz
I've built epyc rigs for people and there's still no circumstance I'm getting them a custom loop unless they explicitly request it
pale quartz
Got a P750GM firecracker PSU to toss out before that though
should be somewhat resellable
honest bison
Got a P750GM firecracker PSU to toss out before that though
yikes. Get another psu asap. Corsair RMx is good
light wave
I ordered a ROG Thor 1200W and it's stuck in a damn warehouse since 2 weeks ago. Pain.
honest bison
Oh, that works too
pale quartz
I ordered a ROG Thor 1200W and it's stuck in a damn warehouse since 2 weeks ago....
meh go big or go home I suppose
light wave
meh go big or go home I suppose
Getting ready for the 4000 series Nvidias. Hopefully that's enough headroom.
pale quartz
that's enough wattage that you could probably run a dual system from that alone
light wave
That and saved electricity bills.
pale quartz
Getting ready for the 4000 series Nvidias. Hopefully that's enough headroom.
lol that's going to be way more than enough
Lovelace isn't launching till 2023 so you'll be waiting a bit
light wave
Lovelace isn't launching till 2023 so you'll be waiting a bit
A 3070 will suffice until then, I hope.
honest bison
Lovelace isn't launching till 2023 so you'll be waiting a bit
Lovelance?
pale quartz
Lovelace is the codename for rtx 40
pale quartz
it's architecture name..
honest bison
ik
pale quartz
A 3070 will suffice until then, I hope.
3090 400W cards are already pushing the boundaries of thermal acceptance, 900W would have been totally fine, but nothing wrong with going bigger
which is why they are failing, funnily enough
honest bison
imo, if next gen gpus are not more efficient than Ampere, Nvidia is not going the right way
light wave
Eh mine sits at 64C under max load.
honest bison
efficiency is key
light wave
72C hotspot
pale quartz
ampere is not efficient because its made on Samsung's node
honest bison
Eh mine sits at 64C under max load.
Ambient temps?
pale quartz
not the architecture
pale quartz
Eh mine sits at 64C under max load.
thermal acceptance = not the hardware temperature
light wave
Ambient temps?
About 24-25
pale quartz
the internal components
and also why the Nvidia reference cooler is massively overengineered
light wave
the internal components
I took a gander at all the thermals it reported once, seemed better than the average 3070 is what I meant.
pale quartz
I took a gander at all the thermals it reported once, seemed better than the ave...
ah yeah AIBs need to make themselves stand out so massively overengineer a card to make themselves "marketable", but yeah there's a reason that 3090's have been dying, same as the 2080tis did for Turing
light wave
I feel so out of date after building a PC now. Last one I did was an E5500 with a 9800GT and 512MB's of RAM
Man that was a long time ago
pale quartz
turns out when you make a card that projects enough heat to be a radiator that the internal hardware inside cannot handle it 100% of the time for stability
pale quartz
I feel so out of date after building a PC now. Last one I did was an E5500 with ...
really showing your age
honest bison
and also why the Nvidia reference cooler is massively overengineered
And yet, temps are not great
pale quartz
And yet, temps are not great
blame the node ampere is manufactured on
honest bison
yep
pale quartz
the architecture itself is fine
honest bison
My 3080 FTW3 runs hotter than I would like
pale quartz
well, sort of "fine"
light wave
really showing your age
Well, back in 2006 it was fun to pull the thing apart. Also had to OC the 9800GT to get like 35 frames in Crysis 2 lmao
pale quartz
it's not a particularly amazing architecture but it's meh
light wave
Lowest details, of course.
pale quartz
Well, back in 2006 it was fun to pull the thing apart. Also had to OC the 9800GT...
LOL you defo showing your age
light wave
LOL you defo showing your age
I mean, yeah, they tried to teach us to program using punchcards back then. But hey, I'm 24 after all haha
pale quartz
3 years your junior you old pensioner don't even try it
light wave
3 years your junior you old pensioner don't even try it
Ok, geezer.
You're past 20, cope.
light wave
How does it feel to be 30 in 9? You're getting there.
pale quartz
I'll take one year shy of a decade over 6
next year you're half a decade till you're 30
light wave
And still kickin'.
pale quartz
your gray hair says otherwise
light wave
your gray hair says otherwise
No gray hair, no beard. I have the high ground.
pale quartz
no beard? your hair follicles died off that quick?
you're aging quicker than you think!
male pattern baldness is next for you
light wave
no beard? your hair follicles died off that quick?
They never kicked in 
pale quartz
24 going on 42 more like
nova quartz
I have pc gaming gtx 1660 super gigabyte amd ryzen 5 3600 I have drops fps do u have solution I don't know
light wave
I'm malding rn thanks
nova quartz
Used msi monitors 144$
pale quartz
Wilde the longer it goes on the worse the reminder gets
you'll be 26 and realise you're going on 50!
light wave
Wilde the longer it goes on the worse the reminder gets
Help the user above me and let me seethe
pale quartz
he didnt say please I am not a servant
pale quartz
Help the user above me and let me seethe
you keep grovelling!
nova quartz
I have pc gaming gtx 1660 super gigabyte amd ryzen 5 3600 I have drops fps do u have solution
pale quartz
please see the I am not a servant part
pale quartz
you done seething about being 40?
light wave
you done seething about being 40?
Never.
pale quartz
LOL that's a strange thought not long after your first pc I was doing kernel development
younger me was, odd, the more I think about it
midnight crypt
A blood sacrifice
proven swallow
hey i just got bf5 from steamand played the tutorial and it says cant connect to ea servers and when i restart my gfame same thing happend ive played the tutorial about a bvillion times not
now
prime jasper
hey i just got bf5 from steamand played the tutorial and it says cant connect to...
hahah bro same here bf1
prime jasper
whats the best cloud gaming option to play bf4?
proven swallow
hahah bro same here bf1
did u find a fix?
silent swift
😐
I had this happen once and closing BF, logging out of Origin software and logging back in usually works.
Check if you have linked your Steam account to origin/vice versa
prime jasper
my 1 tb arrived today and installed it now i have 3.5 tb of storage
signal cove
I have only Origin
Also I tried to repair the game via Origin
It didn’t work either 😦
Thanks for your attention mate
silent swift
Huh, it should be an easy fix tbh I don’t think it’s the game it’s probably Origin
Disable origin overlay btw
Then run it
Origin -> Application settings -> Origin in Game -> disable Origin in game
signal cove
Thanks mate I will try
🙂
Why does Origin block me to play BF4 online
I am playing BFV multiplayer
What is the thing with origin overlay or logging off
silent swift
Just try it, idk what’s going on in there but I’ve had it happen
But it was a quick fix
vital pasture
hi my beta bf2042 is not launching
can someone please help
my friend said its over and beta closed
but i do not trust him he tricked me before and i fell for it
ahhaha
midnight crypt
Hes not wrong
molten coral
Beta has been over since Saturday
prime jasper
Guys guys... cmon...
mystic oyster
I mean there is a purchase protection
mystic oyster
but i do not trust him he tricked me before and i fell for it
He didnt lie to you this time. Beta Was Till the 9th
vital pasture
noooooo rip beta
prime jasper
I mean there is a purchase protection
2 day purchase protection. I think it'll take like 3 days for it to ship
prime jasper
did u find a fix?
I tryed everything and it dont work , yesterday 8 hours trying to fix it dont work
near rune
https://streamable.com/z9jrbq @prime jasper this is pretty much your playstyle aa
prime jasper
I didn’t know this was technology
Also that AA is completely oblivious 
literally just sitting still
near rune
i didnt know either
plucky token
https://streamable.com/z9jrbq <@456226577798135808> this is pretty much your pla...
Wbks golmud server?
plucky token
Wbks says its noob friendly... but it isnt
near rune
@plucky token fast spawn = no thanks
toxic wigeon
So what's up with amds threatrippers and what makes it so pricey?
quick locust
Yeah HEDT and a lot of features consumers don't need
molten coral
So what's up with amds threatrippers and what makes it so pricey?
Because they rip your money
raw turtle
more pcie lanes and cores than most know what to do with
quick locust
Like the intel HEDT i9s (though they are kinda bad)
raw turtle
10900k still takes the cake as the best gaming CPU
granted, you gotta do quite a bit of tweaking but it’ll beat the 5950x
quick locust
Neither of which are hedt
vapid estuary
So what's up with amds threatrippers and what makes it so pricey?
Massive die sizes with insane amount of cores inside
quick locust
Hope alder lake will do well
raw turtle
well i’d consider 5950x HEDT
toxic wigeon
How many cores would a thread ripper have
quick locust
Up to 64
toxic wigeon
Oh wow
raw turtle
depends on which one though
quick locust
Yeah
toxic wigeon
Ok. 3990x
vapid estuary
64 cores 128 threads
raw turtle
zen 2 chiplets, but a lot of them
vapid estuary
Each indivisual cores arent as strong as even zen2 gaming cpu
vapid estuary
Like intel pentium ig
raw turtle
origin still connects though?
raw turtle
if that doesn’t work, best thing to do is just look up your issue and try every potential fix
signal cove
Thanks I will try
alpine sinew
Anyone for Battlefield 1 now
quick locust
Anyone for Battlefield 1 now
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pale quartz
What's an athlon like?
athlon was built on phenom 2, TR is based on Zen which by far outclasses phenom just by architecture design, which is where the CCX design complex came from
mystic oyster
2 day purchase protection. I think it'll take like 3 days for it to ship
But isnt it a purchase protection after arrival ? Cuz otherwise it wouldnt make sense
wintry prairie
Nice
willow schooner
whats that mic
Audio Technica AT 2020 & Lumix G7
mystic oyster
thx alot
willow schooner
streamer?
Na, I just require a professional setup for video and audio for my job. Lots of corporate meetings
storm osprey
which headphones? i have the 700x
balmy tartan
can i5 10500 and rx 580 4gb run bf4 good?
mystic oyster
yes
balmy tartan
ty
mystic oyster
can i5 10500 and rx 580 4gb run bf4 good?
depending on what you want to achieve
strong pilot
can anyone help me. I just started BF4 and have 10 hrs in the game. I was playing fine with no problems earlier today and lastnight and for some reason today when I launched my game, it shows me a black window for a couple seconds and then closes and opens up origin.
proven swallow
I tryed everything and it dont work , yesterday 8 hours trying to fix it dont w...
still no fix have 8 hrs on the gamw without one match
pale quartz
can anyone help me. I just started BF4 and have 10 hrs in the game. I was playin...
do you have mantle enabled?
strong pilot
@pale quartz What does that mean?
pale quartz
<@!162568099839606784> What does that mean?
settings
pale quartz
in game
strong pilot
i can't even get into the game '
pale quartz
check your config files to see if you have mantle enabled
prime jasper
what is mantle bro
strong pilot
how do I check my config files?
prime jasper
still no fix have 8 hrs on the gamw without one match
thats so sad bro i feel u all my friends playin and i cant hahahaha damn man so sad
clear widget
did anyone else struggle with their cpu being pushed to the limits during beta?
all 8 cores of my 9700k were at 90-100% usage
midnight crypt
What gpu do you have and at what resolution were you playing on?
clear widget
What gpu do you have and at what resolution were you playing on?
3080 at 1440p
gpu usage was around 80%
im overclocked on my cpu too at 5.2ghz
proven swallow
thats so sad bro i feel u all my friends playin and i cant hahahaha damn man so ...
tell me if u find anything
clear widget
it is because stuttering
any kind of shift in cpu load is felt as a stutter
my fps was like 90is on foot but 144+ in the sky
pale quartz
all 8 cores of my 9700k were at 90-100% usage
thats entirely normal
the game uses more than 8 cores and the 9700k does not have hyperthreading
clear widget
👀
pale quartz
what is mantle bro
mantle is a rendering engine
midnight crypt
Oh right
clear widget
thats not "normal"
pale quartz
yes, it is normal
midnight crypt
No hyperthreading
clear widget
cause i was thinking of getting a 5900x
obviously if a 9900k would fix my issue that would be WAY better
my mobo can fit a 9900k at most right now
pale quartz
i mean its your decision a 5900x has more cores with higher IPC
itll run the game much better than any 9900k ever can
clear widget
i dont see how it would run as a 4c/8t system without hyperthreading tho
cause like cores 5-8 were still under load
pale quartz
thats not how it works
games scale across threads, not cores, a 4 core system with HT has 8 threads, you do not have HT, so you have 8 total threads
short pier
cue nfl theme i guess
pale quartz
which is the same as 4c/8t
clear widget
games scale across threads, not cores, a 4 core system with HT has 8 threads, yo...
thats game dependent
msfs2020 uses 4 threads at most
pale quartz
no it really isnt, it happens regardless of the software
8 thread utilisation has been the standard for years
theres nothing off about it
2042 can use 12 threads at any one time, youre thread bound
by the time the full game comes out it'll probably use more if it can
clear widget
i just wanna be sure that when i swap my cpu im not seeing the same issue
pale quartz
you are thread bound lol its impossible for you to see the same issue
unless you swap it out for something without hyperthreading
if youre that concerned just get a 5900x you wont be worrying again
clear widget
lmao i didnt even know you can be thread bounded
9900k would literally save me here
pale quartz
i mean depends what youre after
youll get far better performance with a 5900x over a 9900k especially with a 3080ti
clear widget
i just wanna be hitting 100% gpu usage and not bouncing around
pale quartz
you will not hit 100% utilisation even with a 5900x
clear widget
i just have a 3080
clear widget
you will not hit 100% utilisation even with a 5900x
on my gpu
clear widget
100% gpu utilization means your not being bottlenecked
clear widget
well the gpu is working at full power and not limited
pale quartz
thats not how GPUs actually work
100% utilisation on any piece of hardware is bad, CPU/GPU/RAM/storage/whatever
clear widget
every game of mine at 100% gpu load performes extremely well 140+ fps
well you will always have one component at 100%
pale quartz
yes, as its normal behaviour, you do not want 100% utilisation on the GPU
pale quartz
well you will always have one component at 100%
no, you wont
clear widget
your always gonna have a bottleneck otherwise infinite power
pale quartz
GPUs are designed to not use 100% of themselves for a reason
the reason? input latency
pale quartz
reflex does not solve GPU utilisation
clear widget
reflex + drops you to lik 97%
pale quartz
yes, which is why what you are thinking about regarding utilisation is wrong
clear widget
idk your making me question my sanity here
everything ive been told is a lie apparenty
pale quartz
apparently so
clear widget
i really dont see how 97% gpu usage is a bad thing
pale quartz
its not, 100% is, 97% is fine
clear widget
... bro by 100% i literally mean right under the limit
stop trolling me like that xD
pale quartz
you misunderstand how GPU scaling works
a GPU will hit 100%, if it can, at all
which is bad
pale quartz
it will, you just wont notice it
clear widget
im fine ... im hitting 98% ish on all my gpu limited games
pale quartz
well, if you have unlimited frames, anyways
pale quartz
cap it 1 frame above your monitor's refresh rate
going any higher is a waste of power + increases latency
clear widget
also about 5900x being faster if im not being bottlnecked anymore with 16T and my cpu is not at 100% wouldn't the faster clock speed give me better performance?
pale quartz
no
clear widget
im running 5.2ghz on 9700k
clear widget
maybe i can reach that with 9900k
pale quartz
clock speeds are not indicative of performance
clear widget
a 9900k is slower than a 5900x
not in clock speed
pale quartz
IPC is indicative of performance
not clock speed lol
clock speed is an indicator of per core performance, not of a whole CPU
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i mean when a game is only using the first 6 cores for example then clock speed would be the differentiator
pale quartz
no, it isnt
a 5900x blows a 9900k out the water on IPC
it isnt even close
you fundamentally misunderstand how CPU performance works
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those IPCs dont translate to FPS
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not thats well unless your bottlenecked
pale quartz
...
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i mean i can just read these benchmarks
pale quartz
do you know what IPC even is?
pale quartz
yes, and do you know what im talking about?
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yes
pale quartz
what am i talking about?
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for certain workloads you would be a massive improvement of course
but for gamnig
its really not that big
especially for modern titles
pale quartz
sorry, youre just, dead wrong
pale quartz
do you not realise the 9900k isnt even on the list?
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sorry if thats massive to you we are on a different scale
pale quartz
no, we arent
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im not here to argue the strength of 990k
pale quartz
then what are you trying to argue?
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im not arguing i wanna know what exactly is being translated to fps
pale quartz
then what are you trying to say? that IPC doesnt translate over to framerate? because theres a reason single core IPC is so important to frame performance, and frame timing, you understand right?
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i dont know thats what im asking
pale quartz
then please dont say its a small difference because it really isnt
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also intel tends to do well or did well in single core IPC
pale quartz
yes, they do, until this generation
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in terms of FPS per $ your money is way better off in a gpu upgrade
pale quartz
no, its not
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thats why the difference is irrelevant to me
pale quartz
because you wont experience a difference on your system for 2042 between a 3090 and 3080 with that 9700k
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when not cpu bound of course
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because you wont experience a difference on your system for 2042 between a 3090 ...
ya i know
when not cpu bound i mean
pale quartz
im sorry to tell you but CPUs and GPUs are just as important as each other for total performance, neither is "irrelevant"
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it the 9900k will get me out of this cpu bound scenario its my best bet
pale quartz
it will not get you out of your cpu bound situation
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cause after selling my 9700k ill be down 50-100$ ish
pale quartz
which is what ive been trying to tell you from the beginning
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and for 5900x it will be like 500+
pale quartz
you are single thread IPC bound, too
not just thread bound
you wont experience, if any, increase to your framerate
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but with hyperthreading wouldnt it act as an 8c /16t instead of 4c/ 8t
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... ok so 9900k wouldnt fix my issue
pale quartz
your issue is you are hitting 100% utilisation, it will fix that issue, it will not however increase your performance
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would it fix your issue? yes, is it worth it? your call
you said it would tho
pale quartz
those are 2 different things
if you want both you need to upgrade the CPU entirely to something state of the art
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man 9700k works fine for every single game ive got besides 2042 apparently
pale quartz
far from it lol
plenty of games use more than 8 threads, it isnt something revolutionary
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what does it matter that they use more threads when adding threads gives me no performance
pale quartz
because both are as important as each other
pale quartz
yeah sorry, if you want that, youll need a 5800x/5900x im afraid
nothing you can do to change that
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thats fine thats what i was planning to do anyways
pale quartz
np best of luck
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although i might wait for new cpus and ddr5
pale quartz
i mean, if youre wanting to spend over $1000 on a motherboard and alder lake, sure go ahead
nevermind the cost of memory
do as you please
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pale quartz
32GB early kits for DDR5 will be around $350~
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i was kinda on the boat that hopefully this "shortage" ends soon
pale quartz
early kits
pale quartz
i was kinda on the boat that hopefully this "shortage" ends soon
yeah that isnt happening
toxic zealot
no untill 2022
pale quartz
like, whatsoever till mid next year, at an absolute minimum
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yikes
pale quartz
alder lake is expensive shortage or not
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ya i mean i can wait 1 year but not really longer than that
pale quartz
the shortage doesnt change its price