technology

[twilit quiver]

Xd

[plain stag]

So you paid 60 bucks for that?

[twilit quiver]

I just jammed it in with the other 8gb stock ram

[plain stag]

You got scammed bro

[twilit quiver]

No

30

For single

[plain stag]

Oh okay okay

[twilit quiver]

Mixed

[plain stag]

Still, a bit scammed xD

[twilit quiver]

It was a Kingston ram with like cl16 3200mhz ddr4

[twilit quiver]

I mean it was the cheapest ram on Amazon that was 8gb

[plain stag]

Thats like the most common kit atm

Cl 16 3200

I wouldn't buy beyond cl 16 unless its like 4000mhz

[twilit quiver]

So like is it worse

Than

Cl 16

2666

[plain stag]

Well, 3200 cl 22 has 13.75 nanoseconds memory access time

[twilit quiver]

How bad is that

[plain stag]

2666 cl 16 has 12ns

[twilit quiver]

Well I mean a lot of people bought the crucial 3200mhz cl22 ram

There’s like 60000

Reviews

8gb

Single

[plain stag]

3200 cl 16 is 10ns

[twilit quiver]

So will I get a lot less fps

[plain stag]

Nah

Hardly any game is that memory dependant

[twilit quiver]

So in what case will the cl22 ram harm my performance

[plain stag]

But you will get a few fps less

[twilit quiver]

How much

Like

5

10

will it stutter more

I have like an amd cpu

So will it

Be bad

It’s zen 2 4600h

[plain stag]

Well, amd likes fast ram

But maybe like 5 fps?

Shouldn't be more thab that

Even 5 fps is a lot

It will depend of the game tho

Some games are more memory sensitive

[twilit quiver]

Oh wait there’s was a ram stick that was 2666 cl19

Also by team group

For like the same price

8gb single

Should I have bought that instead

[rocky lantern]

Get 3200 CL14 g.skill

Nothing can really beat that until it's 3600 CL16

Even the corsair dominator don't get that fast in terms of latency since they're CL18

You can overclock the g.skill to like 3600 as CL14 but the ram may reach 50 Celaius under load

[twilit quiver]

I meant that

I already

Have the ram

So I was askin how much worse it is

[rocky lantern]

Wikipedia already has a handy table

But I wouldn't touch anything over CL16

[twilit quiver]

Welp

It was good for my wallet

[rocky lantern]

But honestly if it's under 20 fps difference

Just go with whatever is in ur budget

[twilit quiver]

Alr 20 fps

Is too much

[rocky lantern]

Well even then you'll probably be bottlenecked somewhere elsec

[twilit quiver]

Where

[rocky lantern]

Some people put ram in and never bother to get the true advertised speed and latency by setting it up properly in bios

[wraith sky]

You've been bated . .

[twilit quiver]

I got the advertised speeds though alright and my stock ram down clocked to the 30$ ram

[rocky lantern]

Most likely will be bottlenecks at cpu of gpu

[twilit quiver]

If it is just a tiny bottle neck by like 5 fps

Then I’m alright

[rocky lantern]

Like my 3080ti is bottlenecked by my 5800x if I'm out to play the newest titles in ultra

Yeah ram is the last bottleneck I'd worry about

[twilit quiver]

Then get a 5950x

[rocky lantern]

My aio isn't big enough to preform that max under load

And I'd want to push as overclockdd

[twilit quiver]

But doesn’t like high and ultra look the same

[rocky lantern]

Also I'll probably wait for another drop if I have to

Yeah but I usually play lowest settings in bf4

So bottleneck doesn't really affect me since I'm pushing over 300 fps in f4 anyways

[twilit quiver]

I play lowest too and lock it to 120

[rocky lantern]

I keep mine unlocked but I really should lock it

[twilit quiver]

Don’t u have like a

360hz

Or 240hz

390hz

[rocky lantern]

No 240hz

[twilit quiver]

Monitor

Oh

[rocky lantern]

It can push 280hz but it can reduce its lifespan

[twilit quiver]

Then just lock it

To 240

[twilit quiver]

By how much

[rocky lantern]

Don't want to find out

But asus has it under overclock settings when u go through the monitor menu

To enable 280hz

I should have gotten the zowie it has the lowest blur due to DyAC

But it's $200 more for a smaller screen

[twilit quiver]

So do u wanan enable

280hz

[plain stag]

5950x wouldn't make a difference either, whole ryzen 5000 lineup has largely the same gaming performance, theres only a few fps of difference between 5600x and a 5950x

[twilit quiver]

Neat

[rocky lantern]

Not really. I should though if it reduces the blur

[plain stag]

Having 10 extra cores isnt important

[rocky lantern]

Yeah and the 5800 is at lease $200 cheaper in Canadian dollars

Should I play star citizen

[plain stag]

All zen 3 chips have the same amount of cache, which affects fps more than having extra cores

[rocky lantern]

Is it less grindier than elite dangerous

[plain stag]

Theres very very very few games where they can take advantage of those extra cores

[twilit quiver]

Like

What

[plain stag]

Star citizen

[rocky lantern]

This is what turned me off the total war games

[plain stag]

And total war games

But star citizen is

Eh

[rocky lantern]

Elite is also eh lol

[plain stag]

Its definitely not finished

[rocky lantern]

Yeah still alpha

[plain stag]

So performance varies a lot

From build to build

[rocky lantern]

And fps depends on server load lool

[plain stag]

Also, civ games can take advantage of those cores too

Reducing ai play time

[rocky lantern]

Total war has horrible optimization

[plain stag]

But other than a handful of games, it's pointless buying 5800x and beyond for gaming only

Even a 5800x is kinda pointless to have foe gaming

If you want a strictly gaming pc, then 5600x is the way

For intel, going for i5's is fine, but they are leaving performance on the table, because they reduce the cache size on lower class chips

So they are kinda "forcing" you to buy higher class chips if you want the best gaming performance

[leaden tusk]

Quick question: I got a 3080 and DLSS is greyed out in the settings. Why is that? Is there a solution?

BFV*

[wintry prairie]

Turn on DX12, RTX, then DLSS. If still greyed out, it is common issue with higher end gpu.

[leaden tusk]

yeah, did the first two points, still greyed out. weird

[wintry prairie]

Common issue.

[quaint lichen]

IM AT A MARKET AND THEYRE SELLING an Anne pro 2 60% for £25

It’s fully working

I can’t see any RGB tho

Is it worth it

[wintry prairie]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wraith sky]

I want a 5900X

[wintry prairie]

Then get it.

[twilit quiver]

From u

HK

Buy all of us a 5900x

It’s our birthdays

[wraith sky]

Thanks @wintry prairie

[wintry prairie]

👍

[plain stag]

I think its only enabled of you run the game at 4k, and all of the above

But you wouldn't want dlss in bf anyways

Dlss 1.0 is horrid

[quick locust]

Cleaning and repasting seem to have done decent

[leaden tusk]

fun thing is I run BFV on 70fps avg. 5800x + 3080, DXR off now

1440p though

[craggy vine]

Does anyone know if upgrading my ram from 2400 mhz to 3600 will increase performance?

I have core i7 9700 3 Ghz and a 2060 super

[plucky token]

3200mhz would do as well

[plain stag]

Yes, but it depends of cas latency as well, how big is it on that 3600 or 3200 kit

[plain stag]

Try running in dx12, i got a massive fps boost just by running in dx12, about 30 fps increase with a 3070ti

[latent light]

1650 Super is much faster than a 1650

[leaden tusk]

dx12 actually makes it worse

I see youtube videos where people with my setup have 155fps average. I got the half, which is strange

[plain stag]

Yeah, dx12 is very weird in bf5, it's not a native dx12 title so it makes sense i guess

I didn't expect anything from it when i tried, but was pleasantly surprised that i got a 30 fps boost

Running a 5600x and a 70ti

[latent light]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-12-gb-graphics-card-launches-in-q1-2022-to-tackle-gpu-availability-issues/

[plain stag]

Whats your ram, please tell me you are running 2 sticks of ram, cuz bf 5 hates one stick of ram

You gain almost double the fps by running with 2 sticks of ram

[leaden tusk]

yes, duo stick

and 3600mhz

[plain stag]

Hmm

Very weird

Whats your gpu utilization?

In dx11 it was about 60% for me, dx12 increased it to 100% pretty much

[leaden tusk]

below 70% with dx12

[plain stag]

Right now I'm running all ultra with ray tracing on, 1080p but 135% render res and i have about 110 fps average

+-10 fps depending of the map

And youre running 70 fps with ray tracing disabled

Weird ass behavior

[solid maple]

anyone installed windows 11 from developer mode?

[craggy vine]

how do I find the cas latency/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083V93HJG/?coliid=IS0NUYGOJ3FTM&colid=145H7T81G1PEC&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

this is the ram I will be getting

vs what I currently have

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XYSSS5C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[plain stag]

It's that cl16 number

[supple bane]

that pedal cable management tho

its like its bluetooth, but its not!

[turbid verge]

good set to start

[storm osprey]

I even use Arctic to keep myself cool.

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-me-trying-to-find-who-asked-spongebob-spunch-bob-gif-22526294

[proud trellis]

[proud trellis]

does that also have a good bang for buck price ?

[primal pier]

[supple bane]

i wonder if it has rgb

[proud trellis]

what is the performance like ?

[storm osprey]

Great bang for buck performance. No rgb, what do you take me for, a zoomer?

[solid maple]

anyone know?

[molten coral]

Yes?

Not worth running the dev version though

Just join the beta program

[solid maple]

how do i join that

[molten coral]

uhh

[solid maple]

from windows insider program?

[molten coral]

Windows update> Insider program

[solid maple]

did you install it?

[molten coral]

I've been on W11 since almost the first week

[solid maple]

it dosent remove all of my hard right? only c drive?

[molten coral]

I was able to upgrade without losing anything but it's always good to make a backup

[solid maple]

how much gb it took to download for install

[leaden tusk]

@plain stag I uninstalled weird programs I didn't know, repaired gamefiles and now I have avg 150fps with drops never below 100fps. Weird, but fixed. Somehow.

[solid maple]

@molten coral it says my pc does not meet the minimum hardware

and i cant use the health care check app and in website it says im not registered to insider program even tho im registered

[supple bane]

you need to enable tpm 2.0 and secure boot @solid maple

if you have a cpu that is older than intel 7th gen or ryzen 2000 you are bang out of luck im afraid

no windows 11 for you, at least not for now.

[plain stag]

Good shit

[plain stag]

Very nice, I'm looking to buy G923 very soon

[supple bane]

turn dx 12 off

bfv has a terrible dx12 implementation

[solid maple]

my gen is 10th

[supple bane]

well you just need to enable tpm and secure boot then.

[solid maple]

8 gigs or ram

how do i do that?

[supple bane]

in bios.

it depends what motherboard you have, either dig around a bit to find them. look at the manual or google it

[solid maple]

idk anything about tpm

[supple bane]

you dont need to.

you just need to enable it :P

[solid maple]

enabling wont do anything bad right?

[supple bane]

of course not

you can google what it does, something to do with giving your hardware a unique code to increase security

[plain stag]

Its random, some get better performance in dx12, some in dx11

But since bf5 doesn't have a native dx12 implementation it will always perform randomly

[solid maple]

i really need help on this guys

i cant access to bios since my keybored does not work until windows is loaded , so i cant access bios

if anyone knows how to fix this would be big help

[midnight crypt]

Are you sure it doesnt work

[twilit quiver]

ye u prob didnt smash ur keys enough

[midnight crypt]

Or the wrong keys

[solid maple]

i did

i had the same problem on dif pc few years ago , somehow a guy managed to get in to bios or boot idk and enabled keybored in there settings

[twilit quiver]

didnt he tell u

how to fix it then

[solid maple]

i was just watching and i had no idea about pc that time and it was years ago

[twilit quiver]

then call him again

[midnight crypt]

Try different usb port i guess

[solid maple]

also tried that

[midnight crypt]

Incase some are disabled on boot for some reason

[solid maple]

anyway to enable them,

[twilit quiver]

did u try usin a different keyboard

[solid maple]

i dont have a spare

[midnight crypt]

Ive never heard of this issue so i have no idea how to fix it

[twilit quiver]

borrow ur moms or smth

and try

[solid maple]

i think its with usb ports ,thanks for help

but not sure

[twilit quiver]

go on reddit

pretty sure someone there can help

[solid maple]

the setting on bios is usb legacy device , but how do i enable it without keybored

a guy fixed it by taking out CMOS battery to reset the BIOS

[midnight crypt]

Maybe try changing the power management in windows

[solid maple]

how does that work?

[midnight crypt]

You could also try just reinstalling the usb port drivers

[solid maple]

ah i see, might take and then start to work on the problem

[supple bane]

i spent my entire sunday afternoon doing cable management. and id say it was a good way to spend my time

not only does my setup look so much cleaner. but it was pretty chill. 10/10, would recommend

[quick locust]

Don't look behind my back panel

[proud trellis]

tbh im happy with my cable management, it was pretty much my first attempt and i cant see any cables so im happy

[supple bane]

The thing is my setup is so big. It makes things more complicated

And its basically 3 setups, so there are so many cables

[molten bramble]

It's like a zen experience when you get into finding the perfect pathways.

I want to get some metal racetrack for beneath the desk and screw it in.

[supple bane]

Yeah

I sent this image earlier but

My wired pedals that looks wireless now

[molten bramble]

Wow, that looks really seamless.

[supple bane]

I spent a solid minute just admiring my work 😁

[molten bramble]

lol

[supple bane]

The wire comes out the back, goes down under the carpet, then up the back of the cupboard

[molten bramble]

I'm probably going to get some of this: https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Carrier-Connectors-Electrical-Machines/dp/B07KJGXXRK/ref=sr_1_95?dchild=1&keywords=Drag+Chain+Cable+Carrier&qid=1631484618&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sr=8-95

Mount it to the bottom of the tabletop, then run some loom around complimentary sets from that.

[grizzled tulip]

Does anyone have a Caselabs case?

[wintry prairie]

I do, I have a Mercury S8 that I use for my main rig.

[grizzled tulip]

Oh nice! I've been looking all over for one, but they are really hard to find and pricy now that they are so limited.

[prime jasper]

Pics?

[wintry prairie]

I was pretty lucky as I ordered mine a bit before the whole ordeal went down. They are treasured items now, for sure.

[grizzled tulip]

Treasured and sooooooo expensive now.

[wintry prairie]

Yeah, they shot up in price a whole lot. Its great for those that have them, but not so much for those that want one.

[grizzled tulip]

Is your the one with the horizontal tray?

[wintry prairie]

Yes, that's the one I have. 🙂

[grizzled tulip]

I'm so jealous right now. If you see one for sale, ping me please. I'm still looking.

[wintry prairie]

If I remember, sure.

[prime jasper]

Pics?

[wintry prairie]

I'm good. 😉

[prime jasper]

It must be a disaster build then. People that have an amazing PC want to show it off. Especially a Caselabs case.

[midnight crypt]

No

[zenith sigil]

@prime jasper "tl;dr: The human eye can physiologically detect up to 1000 frames per second. The average human, tasked with detecting what framerate he/she is looking at, can accurately guess up to around 150 fps. That is, they can see the difference in framerates all the way to 150 fps."

[prime jasper]

nah I disagree lol

[zenith sigil]

how can you could 1000 frames truly and know you saw it? This is saying most at max can only see approximately 150 at best

[plain stag]

because there have been studies shown that people can see beyond 150 fps

[near rune]

Stop this fps of eyes nonsense

[plain stag]

and that 1000 is just a theoretical number

[zenith sigil]

1000 is bases on nerve speeds i think

[plain stag]

the speed which our eyes and brain can process information

[zenith sigil]

"Myelinated nerves can fire between 300 to 1000 times per second in the human body and transmit information at 200 miles per hour. What matters here is how frequently these nerves can fire (or "send messages").

The nerves in your eye are not exempt from this limit. Your eyes can physiologically transmit data that quickly and your eyes/brain working together can interpret up to 1000 frames per second."

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-highest-frame-rate-fps-that-can-be-recognized-by-human-perception-At-what-rate-do-we-essentially-stop-noticing-the-difference

[plain stag]

but either way, our eyes dont see in frames per second

[near rune]

Quora

[plain stag]

you cant put a number of our max "framerate" because it just doesnt work that way

[zenith sigil]

is many articles to looks thru just one that kind of had more info on the 1000 deez mentioned

we just discussing what the average fps limit a eye might see

google said 60-75 at first

[plain stag]

even non gamer people can see a difference

and google says that because a vast majority of people only have 60-75hz screens

it doesnt matter if a game draws 3000 fps on a 60hz monitor

[zenith sigil]

honestly I don't see tons difference over 90-120

looks more smooth

[plain stag]

the higher you go, the difference will be smaller

[near rune]

Buy a 240hz monitor, play at over 240fps for an hour then up your settings and see it dip below 240 you will notice the difference

[zenith sigil]

I just feel like those crazy high FPS limit monitors more about having a large buffer to never get to the 120 range

[plain stag]

theres plenty of games where you can play at beyond 240

[zenith sigil]

yeah but if over your monitors refresh limits is wasted cpu power

[plain stag]

its not

cuz even if you only have a 60hz monitor

[near rune]

Wasted?

[zenith sigil]

I always cap at the monitors limits

[plain stag]

its beneficial to have 200 fps

because you reduce input lag

you might not see more than 60 frames, but your pc will reduce the input processing time

[zenith sigil]

just basically anything over your monitors frame limit is then just using your cpu power to achieve those higher limits which sometimes can even cause games to stutter from the sudden increase in frames, Depends on settings i guess but I never see the point to let it go past it

[plain stag]

playing cs at 60 fps and 360 makes a lot of difference, even on a 60hz screen

lol no

stutters happen because of a sudden drop in performance

[zenith sigil]

like your cpu is still processing the extra frames you can't even visually enjoyt

[plain stag]

but they happen so fast, that you dont see an fps counter drop

[near rune]

So what if it is

[plain stag]

because they refresh at 1 second intervals for the most part

[near rune]

What are you going to use your cpu while playing a game

[plain stag]

maybe you dont visually enjoy, but the game becomes more responsive

[zenith sigil]

for powering the other game needs?

[plain stag]

way more responisive

[near rune]

What game needs

[plain stag]

and its not like youre wasting so much processing time that your pc cant handle it lol

we dont live in the 90's

[zenith sigil]

Yeah still old habits die hard i guess lol

[near rune]

Games like minecraft use 1 core literally

And like it at a high clock speed

[zenith sigil]

minecraft i could run on anything almost

[plain stag]

its almost pointless to limit your game to your monitors refresh rate

[near rune]

Vsync off always

[plain stag]

especially something like vsync

[near rune]

Vsync just increases input lag

Its horrible

[zenith sigil]

G-sync 😉

[plain stag]

the only ONLY reason to ever limit your frame rate to your refresh rate is to completely nullify screen tearing

but even when games run at super high fps, screen tearing is almost a non issue at this point

[zenith sigil]

yeah over 90 rare to see

[plain stag]

i think i can count on my one hand how many times i saw screen tearing when i played cs at like 300 fps

and i still got a 75hz screen

[zenith sigil]

like major light explosion maybe but so rare

[near rune]

Ive got a 144hz

[plain stag]

just dont limit your fps anymore

[zenith sigil]

I have a 32 " 144hz g-sync LG (is a tad sh--y tho feature wise ngl)

[plain stag]

you will feel a difference in input lag

let the game run at its max framerate

[near rune]

Ive capped bf4 to 250fps

[plain stag]

actually, there is one more reason to cap fps

[near rune]

It tends to crash at really high fps

[plain stag]

but thats if the game draws like 2000 fps

like new world was causing problems

[zenith sigil]

I want brighter colors and darks but that gets ecpensive wityh gaming quickly

[opaque saddle]

I only cap my in game fps coz of high CPU or GPU usage

[near rune]

Well i pretty much get 150-200 in games

[plain stag]

the game was rendering at like 1000+ fps, and the gpu was going full blast

but thats so rare to happen

[zenith sigil]

yeah if i load older games upcapped sometimes it hits 3000fps and my fans sound like jets lol

[plain stag]

and usually the gpus dont even run full blast in menus even when they draw 2000 fps

[zenith sigil]

yeah

playing cs at 300FPS makes you feel better even if you can't see it tho XD

[alpine haven]

So according to studies, the human eye caps out at absorbing somewhere between 60-75FPS, with possible exceptions. However, the brain itself can process visual stimuli much faster than the eye can absorb (e.g. 13ms), so the increased FPS offered saturates the sensor with an ample amount of input. This study from 2014 out of MIT examined how the brain receives and processes the visual stimuli: https://mollylab-1.mit.edu/sites/default/files/documents/FastDetect2014withFigures.pdf

[zenith sigil]

yeah that's what google told me also

is many studies tho kind of a unsolved riddle

[alpine haven]

It would seem likely, based on that, that people are not taking in 240Hz, but rather are being saturated enough to where the brain can pick up on detail in a complex way.

[zenith sigil]

that's what i would think also above 120 I think most is just blurred out and you miss tons

[alpine haven]

The science would seem to agree.

[plain stag]

and also, the reason why the higher you go in refresh rate, the smaller the difference is because at 60 fps, it translates to 16.67 ms, 120 fps is 8.3 ms, 240 fps is 4.1ms, 360 is 2.7ms and so on

[alpine haven]

This would also make sense regarding the results from the semi-professional test that LTT did with gamers and FPS variant monitors.

[zenith sigil]

CRT did have great visuals wish they made new ones

[plain stag]

480 fps is just 2.08

[zenith sigil]

updatd tho somehow

[wintry prairie]

That's why I went with a 360hz monitor.

[zenith sigil]

still have a old GXTV from funcoland XD

13" with giant door speakers covering the screen and a sub in back

[plain stag]

thats actually wrong, because you have more information at your disposal therefore it will be less blurry

[zenith sigil]

by blurry i mean i think at some point your brain gives up trying to keep up and skips some without you seeing it

[plain stag]

the picture becomes clearer, because theres more information displayed on the screen

there probably is a limit where the amount of information is just too much

but we havent reached that point

360hz screens exist, soon 480hz screens will come on the market

[zenith sigil]

we need robot eyes already

[plain stag]

but because we process movement differently than how a camera does it, its not as simple as "240hz is the limit"

or whatever the number you want to put

we will see 1000hz displays in the future

its only a mater of time for the tech to catch up to that

[zenith sigil]

It might also wildly varie person to person based on brain IQ or other factors who knows

[plain stag]

altho it probably wont be led's

that also could be a possibility

[zenith sigil]

you know how that one guy could count the sticks that fell from the box instantly?

[plain stag]

also, its not all just about what the refresh rate says on the box

pixel response time is also a factor

two monitors can have 240hz written on the box

one costs 300$, the other 800$

[zenith sigil]

some peoples memory might just run at different clock speeds affecting it somehow

[plain stag]

the one thats 300$ might not have fast enough pixels to display 240hz

pixels also need to switch at 4.16ms in order to display 240hz properly

[zenith sigil]

but yeah mine is 120-144hz oc

[plain stag]

but its the response time thats also very important

technically it can do 144hz

but the pixels cant

and then you get smearing and blurriness

[zenith sigil]

yeah

[plain stag]

or you go to the other spectrum, and increase response time too much

[zenith sigil]

cables and port you use can affect it as well

[plain stag]

and you get chroma subsampling

thats less of an issue

because thats just a hardware limitation

[zenith sigil]

mine might probably needs to be color tuned bad

[plain stag]

cuz the port might not have enough bandwidth

but response times are also very VERY important when it comes to monitors

and those that say they have 1 ms of response time

thats a big fat lie

the only display on the market right now that can come even close to 1ms response times is oled tv's

in particular lg cx/c1

so its prob gonna be oled tech that will deliver like 1000hz monitors

oleds have almost near instantaneous response times

1-2ms

[zenith sigil]

here's my specs had to look it up

KEY FEATURES

31.5” QHD (2560x1440) Display 3-side Ultra-Slim Bezel Sphere Lighting144Hz Refresh rate Nvidia G-Sync Technology Height, Pivot and Swivel Adjustable

[plain stag]

the thing is, they wont place actual response times on the product page

[zenith sigil]

PICTURE QUALITY
Refresh Rate Resolution 2560x1440
Panel Type VAAspect Ratio 16:9
Brightness 350nits (typ) / 280nits (Min)Response Time 5ms (Faster)
Contrast Ratio (DFC) MegaViewing Angle 178 / 178
Surface Treatment Anti glare ,3H

[plain stag]

nobody does that, because no lcd display can reach the advertised 1ms response time

[alpine haven]

It should probably be noted that FPS and Hz are different things.

[zenith sigil]

think response time is adjustable also

1-5

[plain stag]

it is, its called overdrive

but even with fastest overdrive settings, youre looking at at least 5ms for the very best lcd displays atm

the top of the line, the most expensive asus' that cost 1500$

[zenith sigil]

only thing that sucks is 1440p, but helps the rtx 2080 FE I have run most well

[plain stag]

and the lower the product stack you go, the worse response times you gety

decent monitors that cost up to 500$ usually have about 6-10 ms of response time

[zenith sigil]

this was like 3-400 if i recall might have been a sale

[plain stag]

like i said, the only tech that can reach near 1ms response times it lg's cx oled tv

[zenith sigil]

the good ones tho will have a higher brightness Nits rating also

if you pay tons

[plain stag]

so when you see 1ms advertised on the box, you can immediately dismiss that number

[zenith sigil]

yeah

[plain stag]

and look up a review to see actual response times

i suggest hardware unboxed, they do great in depth monitor reviews

if you want in video format

someone like rtings do in depth written reviews

[zenith sigil]

my biggest gripe with this monitor is to access the OSD you must press in a joytick on the bottom middle of the monitor you can't see. Who came up with that idea is a real a-hole

[plain stag]

yeah

[bronze cipher]

Same

And it's actually BS

[zenith sigil]

another odd thing it does is sometimes when on a dark screen the OSD flashes thinking the display went to sleep... quality LG product for sure

[bronze cipher]

Lol

LG is sus some times

[zenith sigil]

yeah probably not going with them on next monitor

price was nice tho at the time

[lofty light]

I used to have a monitor like this, was better imo as the arrow key directions made a lot more sense

Having the 5 or so separate buttons makes it a pain to go through

[zenith sigil]

I also have a small compression mic setup under the middle of my monitor so must move it each time to access it

[lofty light]

Ah yeah that'll do it then

[zenith sigil]

the worst thing also that kind of blew my mind with this monitor is with one of its key features

[lofty light]

My current monitor has one of those nubs but on the back, it's impossible to get to without moving my side monitor

[zenith sigil]

it has a good backlight color selection thing

issues is must use that nubby joystick to control and it does not go to sleep with the monitor

hope you like a bright ass night light i turned it off

[lofty light]

That's kinda odd

Last lg monitor I bought was a super cheap IPS ultrawide

[zenith sigil]

Is hard to find a decent cheap one now most that look decent 500+

if you want 4k, high fps, good colors

[lofty light]

Well yeah that's not cheap

If you want a cheap 4k full stop then you're killing the other two

[zenith sigil]

I thought with them making literal paper thin monitors now stuff would be cheap...

[lofty light]

Lol nope

[zenith sigil]

also had dreams of doing a 3 monitor ultra wide wrap around setup, but the cost is ooof

[lofty light]

Hehe, I'd prefer one insane ultrawide and a couple 1080p side monitors

[zenith sigil]

2042 would be insane with that fov

would need a powerful gpu to run it tho also

[rocky lantern]

Anyone gonna to build a twitch community for bf2042 or should I just give up and not bother getting audio and game capturing gear

[prime jasper]

You can't give up if you have not started...

[lament flare]

Can I get some? :)))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smM-Wdk2RLQ

[solid maple]

I changed keybords, changed all use ports still i could not get my keyboard works in the boot to access bios

does it have to do something with this?

[zenith sigil]

check in the Device Manager, maybe it needs some drivers if gaming keyboard with macro buttons

[solid maple]

how?

it isnt a gaming keybored

[zenith sigil]

hit the windows Key and type Device Manager

[solid maple]

which one should i choose on that usb?

[zenith sigil]

just look for any with a ? in while it's plugged in

normally keyboard drivers are in the Human Interface Devices section

can also goto a website like this and test if it's sending the signals on every button
https://keyboardchecker.com/

[solid maple]

i think its something with the usb ports

[zenith sigil]

try ports in the rear if using front ones

[solid maple]

did everything

[zenith sigil]

hmmm

[solid maple]

i just want to access bios to enable tpm

[zenith sigil]

might have fried your usb controller if nothing will boot on them, or is just the keyboard?

[solid maple]

the problem is my keybored dosent work when booting , like first few seconds of starting the pc ,

it works just right after windows loaded

[zenith sigil]

what motherboard is it?

[solid maple]

so i cant access to bios

msi

wait

[zenith sigil]

need the model number to find the methods

[solid maple]

MSI H310M PRO M2 PLUS MOTHERBOARD

[quick locust]

Try a PS/2 keyboard

[zenith sigil]

manual says this

Entering BIOS Setup
Please refer the following methods to enter BIOS setup.
y Press Delete key, when the Press DEL key to enter Setup Menu, F11 to enter Boot
Menu message appears on the screen during the boot process.
y Use MSI FAST BOOT application. Click on GO2BIOS button and choose OK. The
system will reboot and enter BIOS setup directly.
Click on GO2BIO

[solid maple]

i did smashed del a lot

[zenith sigil]

try their app to enter within the os or make it reboot into it

[solid maple]

dont have one

[zenith sigil]

maybe time for a bios upgrade if older

[solid maple]

how do i do that?

[zenith sigil]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/H310M-PRO-M2#down-manual

click the tabs for drivers and bios stuff and see what you might need

is also utility downloads for it

but way to reach the bios i think might be this based on instructions without keyboard

goto the Utility tab and download the Fast Boot

then via those manual instructions "Use MSI FAST BOOT application. Click on GO2BIOS button and choose OK. The
system will reboot and enter BIOS setup directly."

[solid maple]

[zenith sigil]

@solid maple any luck?

[solid maple]

YEA

Works

Im in bios now

Umm

I remember having this problem long time ago on dif computer amd the guy was fixing it fixed it with enabling keybored on bios setting

Do you know anything about yhat?

[zenith sigil]

not exactly unless you somehow disabled legacy support for it or something

[solid maple]

its enabled

Xchi hand off is disabled

[zenith sigil]

might try disabling fastboot also gives you more time to enter the setup

[solid maple]

Any way how to enablw tmp 2.0

[zenith sigil]

um

first do you have it on the motherboard to enable?

[solid maple]

Oh

[zenith sigil]

your MB has a connector for one, but probably didn't include it

via manual again "JTPM1: TPM Module Connector
This connector is for TPM (Trusted Platform Module). Please refer to the TPM
security platform manual for more details and usages."

[solid maple]

So no tpm in my mb?

[zenith sigil]

some don't include it you get your own to install

is a way to tell thru windows also i think

[solid maple]

I can get it ?

[zenith sigil]

Can read this for more information on it lots of steps
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-if-your-pc-has-trusted-platform-module-tpm

[solid maple]

So if i don have it, can i get it ?

[zenith sigil]

hmm is ways to find one if your motherboard has the slot supporting it, but can be tricky since each one might have a different configuration depending on the MB

one article says this

How to Install TPM 2.0 Module
If your PC has a TPM header, you can easily get a TPM 2.0 module for your motherboard. This will make your PC Windows 11 compatible if you fulfill other requirements.

However, finding the right TPM 2.0 module is the hard part. You need to get the exact pin number and pin layout of your motherboard’s TPM header. For instance, let’s take the above-mentioned B450F motherboard again. The manual says it has a 14-1 PIN header with the following PIN layout. Hence, I have to buy a 14-1 PIN TPM 2.0 module.

You have to ensure that the TPM module you buy has the same PIN layout as your TPM header. More importantly, it has the same PIN lockout.

but follow that and you can add one

looked at the manual again a sec looks like yours is a 14 pin idk about othere layout factors buying them tho

[solid maple]

@zenith sigil

[zenith sigil]

yep sounds like one is not installed

should do some research and find one that matches the connection layout in the manual

also lockout pin order, but no idea on that one

[solid maple]

so tpm is a physical thing?

[zenith sigil]

yeah a physical chip

[solid maple]

[zenith sigil]

think it might be this one, but should make sure which is correct

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/TPM-20-Module

[solid maple]

So if windows give 11 on public do i still need to enable tpm 2.0?

To install 11?

[zenith sigil]

think it's a requirement

[solid maple]

Gosh

[zenith sigil]

my MB uses this one https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/GC-TPM20_S#ov

[prime jasper]

@solid maple what's the name of your motherboard and what model?

[solid maple]

MSI H310M PRO M2 PLUS MOTHERBOARD @prime jasper

[prime jasper]

I went on the official MSI website, it says H310 motherboards are ready for Windows 11

You might have to check the BIOS settings

[solid maple]

should i enable it?

[prime jasper]

Yes

[slate ivy]

lets say i found a 2160p144 monitor for in a local shop 580€ compared to 780€ everywhere else. would you say its worth getting it if im running a 3080TI and a 5950X

AOC U28G2XU, MSRP ist 790USD from what ive seen

[zenith sigil]

for any wondering about the win 11 tpm issue found this comment

Have you tried checking your bios for a setting called PTT? Its basically a TPM built into relatively modern intel CPUs that you can turn on just by switching it on in the bios. My B550 board doesn't have a TPM but my Ryzen 5 5600x has AMD's version of PTT called fTPM. After enabling it I passed the Windows 11 capability check.

[solid maple]

I enabled it we shall see now

[zenith sigil]

and I enabled my intel version in bios

GL

[solid maple]

Mine says dtpm

[zenith sigil]

is AMD?

[solid maple]

Intel

Nick

Nick

[zenith sigil]

hmm mine i just enabled PTT

[solid maple]

good thing?

this was before i enable a setting on bios

[zenith sigil]

hmm does not look enabled right in those pics did you check the method i DM'd you?

[solid maple]

Really thank full for @zenith sigil for helping me out on this problem even tho i given myself upon this. also thank you @prime jasper big thanks

[zenith sigil]

NP learned a thing myself about intels and amds built in tpms 😉

[solid maple]

[prime jasper]

Your welcome bro

[zenith sigil]

now to figure out secure boot 👢

[solid maple]

yes

[solid maple]

FUCK YEAH

i got the windows 11 update

[zenith sigil]

gratz

[solid maple]

I cannot acess your dm

Internet is bugging out, wait

[lament flare]

Is RAM CL22 and CL20 really huge different?

[wintry prairie]

No

[lament flare]

I investigate the spec and the product (with review) that you share to me yesterday. From review they said clock speed will stuck at 2666 MHZ unless enable xmp feature to boost ram speed to 3200mhz. Sadness my laptop not support xmp.

By the way thank you for sharing the info yesterday.

[quick locust]

there's ftpm as well

firmware tpm

[wintry prairie]

Glad to help.

[quick locust]

Big

Two 6800 Duos

64 GB vram each and two gpu dies on each

[modern gull]

[marsh gull]

yeah it has gddr6 instead of gddr5 but still its not that big of a gap

[opaque saddle]

$4999 workstation graphics card, not sure how powerful will be against Quadro

[pale quartz]

it is

the 1650 super has a lot more CUDA cores than the base card

it can be magnitudes of around 15% in performance from both cards alone, not their either are particularly good cards, that is

[marsh gull]

oh ok

like how much

i thought it was about 20 fps in triple-a games like bf

[marsh gull]

well that's good to know

[molten coral]

3080ti for 1200

[turbid verge]

msrp price?

[opaque saddle]

[turbid verge]

I thought msrp prices were a myth

[opaque saddle]

for their reference model... not a myth

but 3rd party cooler and premium parts makes it quite expensive to obtain

it is like +$200 to +$400 here for a 3070ti

not sure about 3080ti

[pale quartz]

the 1650 and 1650 super don't perform that great to begin with so the difference is marginal in frame terms, the percentage seems higher because the numbers are lower

[prime jasper]

But can it play minecraft?

[marsh gull]

i have pretty good preformance and didn't pay that much, the 1650 super is good value

[quick locust]

Yes if MC is still on mac

Lol

Dunno if it is

[pale quartz]

it's good value, but good value doesn't mean a good card

[opaque saddle]

i think it will not be worth if i paid for lower end cards and use it for a few years time

[quick locust]

I used a GT 750M ddr3 for 5 years

[opaque saddle]

if it runs 5 years and the pc would still be able to get a good fps, that would be worth for me

[quick locust]

Don't want to stick at low end again

[opaque saddle]

i rememeber those cards on macbook

[quick locust]

Before that I only had intel graphics

[opaque saddle]

even a GT 630M being sold as mid end card

i remember i was using those Nvidia GF 320M on older macbook

[quick locust]

Yeah

I think 750M was the last one on mac?

Of Nvidia gpus

I forgot

Maybe it was earlier that they stopped cooperation

[opaque saddle]

think about this...

the 320M is the high end mobile GPU at that that...

it was a long time ago

[quick locust]

At least they have decent GPUs now except for the M1 ones

[solid maple]

so in windows 11 if i download a apk, i dont need emulators to install it right?

[quick locust]

Don't know if that is ready yet

[solid maple]

windows 11 folders feel bit weird rn since it does not show inside pictures

[marsh gull]

fair enouph

[zenith tusk]

that feature is not out yet

[solid maple]

ah i see

what about inside images not showing outside folder icons

[midnight crypt]

They changed the look of the folders and thats a byproduct

[river plume]

LG 27GL850 UltraGear™ - 27" Nano IPS / QHD 144Hz / 1ms / G-Sync® - Freesync / VESA / HDR 10

374€

should i do it?

right now i have 1080p 144hz

[midnight crypt]

You can do whatever you want

[solid maple]

wdym?

[cunning garden]

hey, having issues with battlefield V when i start to sprint everything is fine but the second an enemy comes on screen it makes me stop sprinting and this is really annoying. i don't know if its a rendering issue but i did find a clue that its my keyboard i have a corsair k55. i do not have any issues on other games, with the exception of battlefield V i have a decently high end system so its not load that is causing it i have a ryzen 9 3900x oc to 4.00 ghz undervolted by .500mv,with 32 gb of ram in dual channel, and an RX 6700xt i do not see anything wrong with my specs i can crank all the setting to ultra
setttings

[midnight crypt]

No

[cunning garden]

i have disabled a whole ccx

i have tried changing the game to real time priority and i tried high nothing fixes it

nothing

i cant tell if im at a uber rare hardware fault or the game is at fault

this is battlefield V that i have been referring to

[midnight crypt]

This aint tech support

[cunning garden]

i know

i don't see a tech support Chanel anywhere bud

[midnight crypt]

Then why are you here

[cunning garden]

im just reaching out to the community in hopes of a solution to see if anybody else has had and resolved this issue

[midnight crypt]

Youre better off googling the issue

[kind kiln]

Yo, what impact does enabling DX12 has on your game?

It changes mine from stable locked 60fps to stable (somehow) 17 fps

[midnight crypt]

Dx12 isnt good on older cards

And also not good in some games

[kind kiln]

Dx 12 feels unfinished

[midnight crypt]

If youre talking about bf5 dx12 sure

Cause its not native

[kind kiln]

i7 4770 + GTX 970 with DX12 doesn't work well. Vulkan doesn't too

Yeah, it's all in the implementation

and most games boasting DX 12 don't implement it well

[wintry prairie]

Here's to hoping it is much better implemented in 2042.

[cunning garden]

i run with dx 12 enabled

its garbage i just like the pain

[weak girder]

@modern gull new pfp fall racc

[quick locust]

Hope they do vulkan

But doubt

[wintry prairie]

Doubt

[modern gull]

[cunning garden]

doubt

[raw turtle]

Not sure how your specs have anything to do with your issue

That’s a bug

[quick locust]

Removing dust and redoing thermal paste on my gpu made it go from 3000 to 1450 rpm

my ears are in a better peace now

[wintry prairie]

^^This

I redid the thermal paste and pads on one of my gpu recently. IT helped a nice amount.

[quick locust]

Yeah mine had a spot without paste

So it hit 107C hot spot

That's one annoying thing about big dies

[wintry prairie]

I try to keep my GPU and VRAM as cool as possible.

[quick locust]

No idea of my vram temperatures

But fine enough I guess

[cunning garden]

its a bug that has never been fixed

[wintry prairie]

OK

[cunning garden]

if anyone has a noisy fan with bearing noise go to your local hardware store and buy 3 in 1 oil drill a hole in the centere of the fan dead center just be carefull and only penetrate the plastic

then fill it up till you get to the top of the hole wipe excess off and duct tape it

or just peel the sticker off

and put it back on i choose duct tape because im lazy

pc fans are getting expensive so i thought i would share a small trick i use

[wraith sky]

I bought some nice Noctua fans.

[cunning garden]

nice

[quick locust]

I use Silverstone fans

[cunning garden]

i also have 4 noctua static fans on my aio

[quick locust]

Works well

[cunning garden]

silverstone is nice i like the pricing on silverstone fans however they got berring noise after 2 years of heavy use

[wintry prairie]

Same, I just added six Noctua fans to my rig.

[quick locust]

Noctua doesn't make the size I would need

[cunning garden]

not complaining just giving you a heads up that the silverstone fans can get noisy

[quick locust]

Though I do use them on my D15

[cunning garden]

never had an issue with noctua though

[wintry prairie]

I have around 70 gentle typhoons I need to do something with.

[cunning garden]

nice

[quick locust]

Currently all my fans work fine

[cunning garden]

oh they will go for sometime

[quick locust]

When not in game my fans runs at less than 100 rpm

[wintry prairie]

The Noctua's are helping keep my CPU/GPU nice and cool. 🙂

[quick locust]

It's a 2013 case so

Quite a while

[cunning garden]

right i use extremely spicy components so i ned to run my stuff at idle around 150 to 200 rpm at idle

*need

[quick locust]

That's still very quiet

[wintry prairie]

Itd better be at that speed

I like cool and quiet

[supple bane]

what software do you use to see hotspot and vram temps?

i assumed hwinfo would have it but it seems not

[wintry prairie]

Yes, HWINFO. What GPU do you have?

[supple bane]

2070

[wintry prairie]

I belive only 3000 series started showing that, so it won't tell you on a 2070 unless you have a thermal sensor that you put there.

[quick locust]

hm

[quick locust]

wonder if rx 6000 has

[supple bane]

well tak has a 2080ti

which is why i was wondering

[quick locust]

yeah still turing though

[wintry prairie]

Look for Memory Juncture Temperature for VRAM temps

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUagmLPb7R8&ab_channel=ServeTheHome

[supple bane]

guess my gpu just doesnt have sensors there then

[wintry prairie]

I don't think so.

[quick locust]

I wonder if 6000 series does

[wintry prairie]

I'm not sure

[supple bane]

its not really a big deal tbh. if it does or doesnt.

[wintry prairie]

I think its more of an issue with the newer cards with DDR6X

[supple bane]

90% of users dont even know what their core temperature is, and couldnt give a fuck if it was at 60c or 80c.

and memory temps are even more niche than that

[wintry prairie]

I have this displayed in my system tray so I can have the info available at a quick glance.

CPU/GPU/VRAM temps

[supple bane]

ultra nerd

[molten coral]

nerd

[wintry prairie]

lol, yes

[supple bane]

i just use an osd like a regular person

[quick locust]

I just use overlay

Set to *

To activate/deactivate

[molten coral]

I just touch the hardware to see if they are hot

[quick locust]

Mangohud on Linux and rtss with hwinfo on windows

[wintry prairie]

I got an small LCD screen so I can display it there. 🙂

[supple bane]

nacho whips out the thermal camera

[wintry prairie]

😂

[molten coral]

Tbh, I know my CPU/GPU are hot when my room is boiling

[supple bane]

my room is always boiling.

its uninhabitable in the summer without the ac on

[molten coral]

If I play a game for a few hours I don't have to turn on the heater

[proud trellis]

same and i cant even open my windows most the time because of spiders coming in

[supple bane]

awwwww is poor little icy wicy scared of spiders?

[proud trellis]

i hate them

[molten coral]

Also hate them

[supple bane]

[proud trellis]

i slept in the spare bedroom once before because of a spider being under my bed

[molten coral]

Arachnophobia

[quick locust]

I don't have AC

[wintry prairie]

I have pest control come out ever 3 months

[quick locust]

I just open window

[supple bane]

you live in the arctic circle tho so ac isnt really a concern for you lmao

[storm osprey]

i shoot spiders in my backyard with my bb gun

[molten coral]

how big are your spiders that you have to use a BB gun

[proud trellis]

come to my house and you can shoot them in my room

[proud trellis]

^ lol

[quick locust]

My spiders shoot back

[supple bane]

lmao

[storm osprey]

not big, im mostly shooting black widows

[molten coral]

I just call my little sister to remove spiders from my room

[quick locust]

4 guns at once

[supple bane]

i hope your little sister isnt like 10

[molten coral]

nah 21

[supple bane]

oh ok thats not that bad then

[supple bane]

living in a country with deadly animals

[molten coral]

I hate all kinds of insects though

[supple bane]

the deadliest animal here is cows

[proud trellis]

eh

[supple bane]

and deer

[proud trellis]

geese

[supple bane]

i mean, not exactly deadly are they?

[proud trellis]

they aren't nice

i mean neither are cows deadly really

[supple bane]

erm

yes

[molten coral]

Most dangerous animal are ticks in the Netherlands

[supple bane]

have you ever been chased by a bull or cow?

you think getting chased by some duck is scary

[molten coral]

Dude, I live in the Netherlands where there is a cow every few km's

yes I have been chased by a cow before

[supple bane]

i was talking to ice

[molten coral]

oh

[proud trellis]

i have never been chased by a cow and i go down the field like every few days

[molten coral]

cows are just big dogs

[proud trellis]

out of all the animals in the UK its a cow

just dont go near them

[molten coral]

cows are cute

[supple bane]

its a lot of peoples job to go near them tho

thats what makes them deadly

farming is also the deadliest work industry

iirc

[storm osprey]

every country has humans in it taps head

[supple bane]

or maybe it was fishing

[near rune]

in farming you get injuries all the time

i lived in a farm for a few years when i was younger

[proud trellis]

i would of thought fishing is more deadlier then farming

like especially in rough seas ig

[quick locust]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-10/apple-erases-nearly-85-billion-in-value-after-app-store-ruling

[midnight crypt]

Thats a small blip for them

[raw turtle]

Then why list specs lol

[wintry prairie]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for the full release of Battlefield 2042.

[raw turtle]

There are technical test specs

If you wanna see those

[wraith sky]

No thanks

[raw turtle]

They aren’t very accurate because optimization is non existent

[grizzled tulip]

OK

[cunning garden]

to keep the dumb comments away from the troglodites that think they know it all and blame the system

[grizzled tulip]

OK

[raw turtle]

lol

[topaz aurora]

i am not immune to nitrocellulose fueled - lead acceleration devices committing high energy rapid disassembly

[wintry prairie]

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[plain stag]

+30 fps for me on a 3070ti

[opal cliff]

Just curious but would you guys have any recommendations for good quality 1080p 144hz monitors?

[plain stag]

Only those that aren't native dx12 titles

[storm osprey]

those would be my picks

[opal cliff]

Thanks! I’ll look into those. Out of the those 5 which one do you like the best?

[storm osprey]

im not sure the difference between the same brands with different model #s honestly

o wait, except the 27" msi, personally i would never get a 27" 1080p monitor

[opal cliff]

Oh okay that makes sense. isn’t like the best size for 1080p 23/25 inches

[storm osprey]

24" is the designation, though actual measurement varies

[opal cliff]

Also sorry one more dumb question but do monitors usually come with display port cables or do I need to get that separately

Oh okay

[opaque saddle]

1440p on 27” is a good res

[storm osprey]

i THINK they come with a displayport cable, but im not really sure on that, all i know is my last monitor came with one, but i got a 1440p, 144hz, gsync monitor like 4 years ago, which i imagine thats might be a rare scenario

(you need displayport for gsync)

[opaque saddle]

Not all monitors comes with display port cables

But it should come with at least HDMI cable,

[opal cliff]

Okay just wanted to be sure lol

Display port is better right?

[opaque saddle]

If there is no HDMI cable there, there should be a display port cable provided with the box

Not necessarily

But some features required display port cable and connections with display port to run

[opal cliff]

Okay that makes sense. Just didn’t know which one was the best to use lol

[opaque saddle]

HDMI is great for versatility

[opal cliff]

Yeah that is true

[storm osprey]

displayport is technically better, but it might not matter

[opaque saddle]

But I will use DP for desktop

HDMI for MacBook and PS4

[storm osprey]

afail the only perk hdmi has over displayport is carrying audio?

[quick locust]

uh

[opaque saddle]

I think some features require HDMI to run… for AMD?

[quick locust]

displayport does too

just most things like eARC are hdmi

[opal cliff]

Well thanks for the advice guys

[alpine haven]

Pretty sure and DP has higher throughput as I recall.

[wintry prairie]

If you have the option, go DisplayPort.

Displayport also carries Audio.

For faster Hz you want Displayport.

For Gsync, you want Displayport.

[opaque saddle]

Usually your monitor have either one or two display ports and your gpu may have a few DP slots

It is possible a monitor has only one HDMI. But that is very old tech and only appears on older monitors

But not as old as DVI or VGA monitors

[quick locust]

most has both

newer ones anyway

[opaque saddle]

The newer one, yes

I have set up a monitor next to my bed

It has one DP and two HDMI

[quick locust]

Mine is one of each

But hdmi on it is only 60 Hz

plus gsync requires DP

[latent light]

https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-i5-12600k-alder-lake-benchmarked-ddr5-6400

[opaque saddle]

I think one HDMI is 1.4 and another one is 2.0

[grizzled tulip]

This

[opal cliff]

For sure going with display port then

[wintry prairie]

Awesome!

[opal cliff]

Yeah thanks!

[wintry prairie]

Anytime, glad to help!

[storm osprey]

id just use what comes in the box

its unlikely youll be using your monitor speakers (if they even have any), or will get gsync unless you want to spend 100 bucks over a similar freesync monitor

[wintry prairie]

I have to use DP.

[storm osprey]

and 144hz at 1080p is definitely covered by hdmi

[storm osprey]

because you have gsync im betting, i do as well

[opal cliff]

Oh so prob whatever comes with monitor would do just fine

[storm osprey]

very likely

[wintry prairie]

And for the Hz

DP only

[storm osprey]

what hz do you have?

[wintry prairie]

360

[storm osprey]

ok well, this dude wants 144hz

[molten bramble]

Gonna need DP.

[wintry prairie]

For him, he could use HDMI

For me, only DP

But I would still go DP

[opal cliff]

Yeah just wasn’t sure if i need dp or hdmi for 144hz so that’s why I asked

[storm osprey]

no point in spending money for dp if what he has is perfectly fine

[molten bramble]

I think HDMI 2.1 was able to do 144Hz though

I go with DP myself.

All three 27" curves on DP and the TV is on HDMI.

[grizzled tulip]

DP without any hesitation.

[storm osprey]

yall like to spend money for no reason it seems

[wintry prairie]

I spend money the way I want and don't pretend to be better than others and how they should spend it.

[molten bramble]

? It's the configuration next gen cards come in anyways. What are you saying?

[storm osprey]

dude doesnt need dp, if it comes with hdmi in the box its likely perfectly fine

[grizzled tulip]

Theat's VERY judgemental

[storm osprey]

welcome to the internet

[grizzled tulip]

So that's your excuse . ..

[molten bramble]

What is that logic? lol "Be happy with mediocre performance."

[storm osprey]

its not mediocre performance at all

[molten bramble]

😄

Okay.

[opal cliff]

Okay thanks for letting me know

[storm osprey]

if he gets a 1080p 144hz amd/gsync compatible monitor theres likely literally no difference in performance at all

which we already know hes getting a 1080p 144hz monitor, and unless he wants to spend 100 bucks more for gsync, he will likely get freesync

[alpine haven]

gsync != freesync

[storm osprey]

no one said they were did they?

[wraith sky]

DP all the way.

[grizzled tulip]

For sure, and for Gsync!

[quick locust]

ah yes, 1560Hz

[wraith sky]

Yes!

[alpine haven]

Ah yes, theoretical high-Hz 720p for that smooth motion blurring imagery. 😄

[wintry prairie]

😂

[storm osprey]

https://youtu.be/RZPwHefWPKo?t=460

i wonder when csgo will be hitting 1k fps

[midnight crypt]

It can already

[storm osprey]

is there some configs to do that? i cant imagine a better scenario than a 6900xt/5800x at 720p

[latent light]

800x600 resolution

[midnight crypt]

You put all the game settings to low

Reduce res to something you can barely see

And then do some extra stuff in the nvidia control panel

And boom 1k fps

[pale quartz]

the whole DP/HDMI discussion is pretty much pointless, as the bandwidth specs aren't being pushed both will work as intended, though something like 10 bit is mandatory for DP with that being said

[wintry prairie]

Ah, ok. So DP then.

[willow schooner]

HDMI is becoming less and less common on monitors and newer graphics cards.

[latent light]

DP 2.0 has like double the bandwidth over HDMI 2.1 iirc

[willow schooner]

Though I cant see it being fully removed any time soon

[pale quartz]

well yeah as much as it should be DP by default the main qualifier here is the GPU rather than the cable of choice, which has entirely been omitted from the beginning

[latent light]

HDMI will remain present in GPUs as long as TVs keep it going

[pale quartz]

there's a more than probable chance the person can't even run HDMI 2.1