technology

[quick locust]

[prime jasper]

#facts

[quick locust]

Though I don't need to do anything for a while

No upgrade rn would be worth it

Maybe SSD

But meh

[prime jasper]

You are not running an SSD? Please don't tell me 7200rpm HD!

[quick locust]

I am using two SSDs

[prime jasper]

Oh okay!

[quick locust]

It's just that the nvme one is just 256 GB

So most of my SSD storage is sata

But it's fine for now

[prime jasper]

NVME for games is a waste. I have a 1Tb for boot and a few games, another 1TB for games, and (4) 2TB Samsung 860 SSD's for everything else. oh, and a 18TB network drive. cuz why not. lol

[quick locust]

8+1 TBHDD for most games/videos, 1 TB SATA SSD for what I mostly play, 256 GB nvme for 1 or 2 games

Yeah I run a NAS as well

Plus an 8 TB HDD in my pc

[prime jasper]

I feel you can never have enough storage..even if it is not full

[quick locust]

:P

My phone has more than my laptop

[prime jasper]

LOL.

[quick locust]

And around same RAM as well

My laptop just has a m.2 SATA hynix drive at 256 GB

But it's fine since I never use anything demanding in that area on it

Don't use much storage on it since no videos and no games

[prime jasper]

What do you mainly do? Gamer?

[quick locust]

On desktop yeah, plus videos sometimes but not much

Most of my camera photos go direct to NAS not my pc

Laptop is just work so I don't have anything demanding need

So the ryzen 3700U is fine in it

[prime jasper]

I set that up on my phone. When I take a pic, and not even at home it sends it to my NAS at home.

[quick locust]

Yeah same

[prime jasper]

No need to waste money on icloud. lol

[quick locust]

I wish I built my NAS myself, but I needed one quick before a wedding

So I just bought a qnap NAS and Toshiba N300 drives in a store

[prime jasper]

Hey, got to do what you go to do...

[quick locust]

And put in my old MLC SSD as cache

[prime jasper]

gtg make dinner. be back later.

[craggy dagger]

dumb question, but DLSS is supposed to boost fps, right?

with the whole AI upscaling, correct?

[quick locust]

Yes

Since it renders at lower resolution

@craggy dagger

[craggy dagger]

so here's another really dumb question (im not that good with pcs), can it help with a cpu bottle neck and potentially not a good gpu?

[quick locust]

CPU no

GPU yes somewhat cause of the lower render resolution

But you need an RTX card for DLSS

Though AMDs FSR can be used on gtx

What's your specs

[craggy dagger]

aw damn it :(

thanks for the help anyways bro

[quick locust]

You can try FSR instead

Or just running at lower settings and resolution

To reduce GPU load

[pale quartz]

that will (soon) change, once directstorage becomes mainstream for PC ports anyways

[prime jasper]

Okay. but I am talking about the here and now...

[pale quartz]

that's the thing, it's already here

[prime jasper]

Game devs have to implement it. It is not widely available.

[pale quartz]

it is just not in the manner you think, it's been in the PS5 since the console launched

in the base Xbox aswell

[arctic crag]

Well I think sata ssd is more than enough now

[prime jasper]

Right. But we were talking about PC...not console. @pale quartz

[pale quartz]

it is a cross functional piece of technology not exclusive to either platform, e.g. see auto HDR

[craggy dagger]

is it amd only?

[pale quartz]

FSR works on non AMD cards too

which also includes upcoming intel DG2

[quick locust]

Yeah

[prime jasper]

I get that..but it is not widely used on PC. So once again..we were talking about PC SSD's and storage..NOTHING about console.

[quick locust]

Though intel will have their own

So not much reason to use fsr on it

[pale quartz]

Intel's looks interesting, I have my doubts it will be successful though

[quick locust]

Intel will kinda have both DLSS and FSR

Since they have a version that is hardware accelerated and intel GPU only, and one that works on any card

[pale quartz]

^ the matrix instruction set

[craggy dagger]

I looked it up and its said to be DLSS but made by AMD. is that really the case?

[quick locust]

Also it's Alchemist, not DG2 anymore

[pale quartz]

no it is made by and developed by nvidia

it is a proprietary piece of technology

oh, FSR

[quick locust]

FSR is made by AMD but works on Nvidia as well

[pale quartz]

yes it's made by AMD

[prime jasper]

I don't care who has what, I just want to see lower prices on the Nvidia side. However, we are not going to see that since TSMC hiked prices 20%.

[quick locust]

Yeah plus shortage for a long time

[prime jasper]

Gone are the days of decent priced GPU...

[pale quartz]

it's a open source SDK under the GPUOpen initiative @craggy dagger which means anyone can technically "maintain" the technology

[craggy dagger]

i mean, is it as effective as DLSS? that's what im trying to ask

[pale quartz]

it was built by AMD however

[prime jasper]

I remember when people were selling their 2080 Ti for $450...and now they cant get a GPU. LMAO.

[pale quartz]

it is not as effective as DLSS

that is a software limitation however

you trade off it being less effective for it being easier to implement

[quick locust]

It's not as effective but a decent alternative

Intel will kinda do both methods at once

[craggy dagger]

I see

thanks for the answers :)

[quick locust]

One all can use and one for Intel GPUs

[pale quartz]

it's simply not possible to have a spatial algorithmic upscaler to compete with a neural model in terms of performance

you give and take with these things

[quick locust]

Yeah

But decent to have an alternative

Well and only way if you're on AMD (at least before XeSS)

[pale quartz]

technically speaking CAS and VSR has already been possible for a while now, but driver agnostic software never really "works" to that high of a standard

[quick locust]

Yeah

Which is why intel does both

[prime jasper]

Ok Nerds..knock it off. LOL

[pale quartz]

? this is the technology channel

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-sloth-no-how-about-gif-7251428

[craggy dagger]

this is a tech channel, what did you expect 🗿

[pale quartz]

XeSS's adoption will depend 90% on how successful DG2 is, well, the proprietary SDK will anyways

[quick locust]

Yes

[pale quartz]

somewhat surprised they got MX to work with this type of solution whatsoever

[quick locust]

And the SDK isn't proprietary, but the hardware is

Not that it makes a difference in that case

"yeah we are open source, but it can only use our hardware"

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/building-your-own-pc-pc-building-silly-funny-gif-17787191

this is how u build pc

[quick locust]

Yes indeed

[prime jasper]

Sort of.

[quick locust]

It's from a longer meme gif

[pale quartz]

good old 3DFX days

[quick locust]

Lul

At least their other solution is full open

Like FSR

[lofty light]

Na just watch the verge vid on how to build a PC, ez

[quick locust]

Intel engineers: Should we follow FSR or DLSS?
Pat: Yes

[lofty light]

https://youtu.be/2lmfF0k2UcU

[quick locust]

At least he showed up in LTT video and redid it

[lofty light]

His comments immediately after the vid makes me think we was forced to do that for publicity

[quick locust]

And he was the one that messaged them about it

He was advised to fight back and his lawyers went on dcma spree

But you're never going to win that way against the internet

[lofty light]

Imagine advising to fight back in this day and age

[quick locust]

Bad lawyer advice

[lofty light]

Shows you have 0 idea how the internet works

[pale quartz]

I don't doubt for a single second intel would have made DG2 on 14nm if thermals weren't in the way

[quick locust]

Nah prob 20

10*

[prime jasper]

Imagine being a Lawyer is 2021. Just dmca everything, sue everyone and make some $. What a world we live in.

[quick locust]

Intel 10nm is pretty good now

But they decided on tsmc N6

[pale quartz]

Intel's 10nm is alright, in terms of something that should have been out 3 years ago anyways

ice lake was a travesty

[prime jasper]

I love Intel. Most stable platform ever.

[quick locust]

RIAA found out long time ago

[pale quartz]

stable?

did you not see rocket lakes bios instabilities when it launched?

[quick locust]

Yeah, but their current 10nm production is pretty good, a bit better than tsmc 7nm

[prime jasper]

AMD has had issues as well..no one is perfect..except Nvidia.

[quick locust]

And actual production numbers now, not just a tiny amount like earlier

[pale quartz]

I mean it didn't take AMD a decade to get stable a revolutionary form of architecture design

[quick locust]

Nvidia has had issues as well

Every company does

[pale quartz]

rocket lake isnt anything revolutionary intel have been doing this for ages

it should have been stable from the getgo

[pale quartz]

this ^

2080ti VRAM cards setting on fire, driver issues, where does the list end

[quick locust]

FX series from Nvidia, a few driver issues, some issue with early cards

[prime jasper]

you guys are to easy.

[quick locust]

Rocket lake is still 14nm though

Alder lake is the change

[pale quartz]

that's the point ^

[quick locust]

Though it'll be weird to have big little on a desktop

[prime jasper]

I am happy with my 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LOL

[pale quartz]

rocket lake was supposed to be fabricated on 10nm and had to be backported to 14 which is why it was such a mess

[quick locust]

AMD will do it afterwards with strix point

Yeah RKL on 10nm would be pretty good

[pale quartz]

^

it's actually a damn shame RKL didn't deserve this

[quick locust]

Would prob beat 5800X plus finally have pcie parity

[prime jasper]

Do all you guys have AMD CPU's?

[quick locust]

No, I use a 8700K

[prime jasper]

Oh yeah. Thats right

[quick locust]

My laptop is Ryzen though

Wish I had waited for zen 2 laptops but my 3700U is fine enough

[prime jasper]

AMD laptop CPU's are pretty good from what I have read..compared to Intel.

[pale quartz]

I have a 5900x gold binned sample

[quick locust]

Yeah they're good

[prime jasper]

"GOLD BINNED SAMPLE" Lets hear more.

[quick locust]

Although they do lack some things but

Overall decent

[pale quartz]

AMD's laptops were always going to be infinitely better than anything intel had to offer purely by power efficiency

[quick locust]

Yeah though TGL and TGL-H gets pretty close

[pale quartz]

it's cores are binned to a gold sample

..

[prime jasper]

What is the clock speed?

[pale quartz]

depends what you're talking about single core or all core

[prime jasper]

No one cares about single core but intel fan bois that never had an edge.

[pale quartz]

? of course people do

single core is how IPC is measured

[quick locust]

Apple has far more than AMD and intel in that department

[pale quartz]

^

unsurprisingly

[prime jasper]

that was a joke..People would always use single core when in a AMD vs Intel fight because for the longest intel was better for single core.

[quick locust]

While Altra and Mystique gets close to AMD but has more cores

[pale quartz]

I mean it wasn't really particularly funny tbh

intel was never always better for single core bulldozer was actually better for a time, it was just a mess of a architecture

[prime jasper]

I am not saying funny haha. I am saying that is what Intel fans said all the time because that was the only argument.

[quick locust]

Eh there were plenty of things pre ryzen

During FX

[prime jasper]

Is your PC liquid cooled? Are you using direct die cooling?

[quick locust]

Now it's a closer

[pale quartz]

delidding?

[quick locust]

Between them

[pale quartz]

nobody runs delidded on stable

[quick locust]

All laptops do

[prime jasper]

No, direct die.

[quick locust]

[pale quartz]

pc ^

[quick locust]

Meant between AMD and intel

[pale quartz]

crossfire on motherboard marketing talk about nostalgia

[quick locust]

Don't think my cpu is a good bin so prob wouldn't get much out of direct die

Yes it's cooler but

[prime jasper]

It was my test bench

[quick locust]

Wouldn't be able to get it any faster

[prime jasper]

I was asking Deco about his cpu..if he has such a great CPU, direct die is the way to go.

[quick locust]

Looks like 9900K or something

[prime jasper]

It is. didnt we talk about this earlier? or was that someone else?

[quick locust]

Yeah

It's pretty fun to see skylake to 10th

Die just get longer each time

Due to more cores on same 14nm and same arch

[prime jasper]

Pretty much.

I need to watch this LTT Verge video.

[prime jasper]

I am going to order a new PC, but am really wondering if I really need a 5950x..I just play games and stream sometimes..not anymore really.

Was thinking of a 11900k or 10900k

[midnight crypt]

Or just wait for newer chips

[prime jasper]

I am not a "wait for the newer chip" person. There is always new chips, so the waiting game will be forever.

[midnight crypt]

I mean a new gen is right around the corner

So why not wait

[prime jasper]

We will see what happens. December time frame right?

[quick locust]

Don't know when AMD next gen is specifically

[prime jasper]

I plan to go Intel...always have.

I was thinking AMD this next go, but I had bad luck with the 3900x

[quick locust]

Intel prob december yeah

or november

[prime jasper]

I hate waiting...lol

[opaque saddle]

I won’t go for AMD if you want solid for gaming

[quick locust]

for ALD

[prime jasper]

I know Dingo.

[opaque saddle]

AMD is meant for low cost

[quick locust]

well

[prime jasper]

LOL

[quick locust]

for 11th gen and ryzen 5th it kind of flipped

at least in mid to low end

[prime jasper]

so funny...people still think AMD is low cost.

[quick locust]

with AMD increasing prices but beating intel in gaming at low-mid

[opaque saddle]

But their flagships against another flagships, which is still a no in general

I mean I wouldn’t go for AMD for gaming

For 3000 series, yes. We got two identical machines set up

[prime jasper]

I have always had good luck with Intel..not so hot with AMD. I became salty towards amd after my 3900x disaster.

[opaque saddle]

However, the 3700x + MB + RAM = i9 9900k cpu alone

[pale quartz]

you would not go with AMD for Ryzen 3000, that is a legitimate argument

Ryzen 5000? doesn't hold water, at all

[prime jasper]

Price is not an issue for me. I got 10k USD for a build

[opaque saddle]

I remember my friend was whinging He would have gone intel last time. And I said you got less budget at that time

[prime jasper]

I get it..however I prob won't go back to AMD again. Just my opinion.

[opaque saddle]

So he went with AMD, but with only 10% slower FPS in general

[pale quartz]

the whole AMD is for budget options has been wrong since well zen 2 released really

[prime jasper]

agreed!

[pale quartz]

a 3700x was not that price competitive and anybody still believing this myth is just kind of lying to themselves

[opaque saddle]

I like the i5 9400-10400F series for the price point and performance

[foggy ocean]

guys, i need some help regarding bfv

[opaque saddle]

!!support

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[prime jasper]

For my use. Gaming...I don't really see a reason to go with AMD if performance is going to be around the same.

[opaque saddle]

However, I went for AMD coz of productivity

[pale quartz]

even at that AMD dumping massive amounts of cache into zen 3 is exactly what games want with zen3D, alder lake is a revolutionary design in terms of core architecture

[prime jasper]

GPU is more important for me as I am getting a 49" 240hz UW.

[pale quartz]

well, revolutionary for x86 anyways

it's been around for ages and isn't really that new

[opaque saddle]

I assumed what you should go is, 11900k and 3090

Coz money shouldn’t be an issue

[prime jasper]

That is what I was looking at. I have a 9900k, so maybe a CPU upgrade is waste..but I just want something new.

[quick locust]

not much reason to get F variants, at least here

since about same cost as normal version

[opaque saddle]

If I need to use quick sync, I would go for intel non F series cpu

[quick locust]

yeah i mean, they cost about the same so most of time not much reason to go F

[pale quartz]

big.little is kind of all intel have left speaking of in regards to CPU changes

[opaque saddle]

People spent either 30 bucks more or less for F. I mean, sometimes the non f is cheaper…

[pale quartz]

which is why alder lake was inevitable

[prime jasper]

I was going to run some VM's so I was looking at the 3990x dual 3090's, but I decided to just do separate machines for the others.

[quick locust]

AMD will do this too, with strix point

just later than intel

[pale quartz]

I'm meaning purely on a monolithic die

there is only so much you can do on that platform

[quick locust]

now to hope windows doesn't go crazy from big little

I know they worked with microsoft obviously but

still

[opaque saddle]

I hoped the controller chip knows what task should be allocated. Like the right task for the right cpu cores

[quick locust]

they could do tiled already

they already do, but only in a few server end products

[pale quartz]

alder lake was in the design stage before tiles were commercially available

[quick locust]

yeah i know

but they could afterwards

[pale quartz]

oh I mean, they are, royal cove is coming, but limitations for you on monolithic ig

[quick locust]

big chongus

[opaque saddle]

Btw IIRC intel has decreased their prices twice during the launch

[pale quartz]

they don't have a choice

[opaque saddle]

Or before

[pale quartz]

rocket lake was such a disaster it lost to its prior generation series

that hasn't happened with anyone since well the phenom days

[opaque saddle]

People would have gone 10400f coz it is cheaper

[pale quartz]

Lakefield if you count that

[quick locust]

lakefield was pretty limited release

[pale quartz]

yeah which is why I tepidly include it

[opaque saddle]

If you remember the MacBook Pro 2016 before they moved to M1, those chassis were designed for 10nm

It was a total disaster. I have the i7 and it is running super hot in summer

[pale quartz]

even at the absolute worst with bulldozer at least it didn't regress performance even if it was an absolute space heater

[opaque saddle]

Isn’t that those cpu were running at 63 degree before the limit set by AMD?

[quick locust]

yes

[opaque saddle]

I have a feeling the newer cpu can now be run far warmer than it used to be

[pale quartz]

63 probably optimistic

you could look at bulldozer and it would hit 95

[opaque saddle]

But not truely an ideal option

[pale quartz]

they can, technically

[quick locust]

TR had at 68C in first gen

[pale quartz]

not practically though

[opaque saddle]

Coz I remember there was a target temp set by AMD, can’t remember which one

[prime jasper]

Oh man! Shipping is $1,149 USD for the PC I configured at maingear. LOL. Got to love shipping to Japan.

[pale quartz]

single turbo has a higher junction temperature than older generations

but it lasts barely a minute meaning it's meh

not that high temperatures are an issue, though

they are if you're intel and have processors drawing over 200W of power

[quick locust]

direct die chilled 3175X at 5.4 all core in AVX 512

there you go

Nah but yeah, can hit over 200W in multi core now

since 9900K

[opaque saddle]

Unless they are willing to sell a direct die (factory option, no manual handling)

[quick locust]

No, since the market is too small to be worth that

[opaque saddle]

Coz I see 12900K is still drawing too much power.

People would find a way to cool that processor, coz they have the money and willing to spend all they can to get low temp solution

[prime jasper]

ME!

[opaque saddle]

This is the reason I was like, it seems like people also wants to delid their cpu without losing the warranty

[pale quartz]

5.4 is in actuality 4.9

[quick locust]

depends how much fire you want

Nah, but it was pretty crazy

[opaque saddle]

I used to run my gaming pc to heat up my room in winter

Coz my room temp can drop to somewhere like 0-2C from the first place that I lived in the city

It is pretty warm this year so I didn’t have the chance witness that room temp for a while

[pale quartz]

the fact that intel have continued to sell to end consumers a power virus like AVX512 and actually defended it is like beyond belief

well beyond belief in the realms of sanity, all those people with Intel processors wondering why they can't hit their advertised boost clocks

[quick locust]

lul

[opaque saddle]

It is like people buying their cars and asking the reasons they can’t reach the advertised mileage from the test tracks

[pale quartz]

not even that, it's then akin to the car seller telling the buyer that them not reaching the speed of the car is actually a good thing and they don't know better

[opaque saddle]

Well, it is possible to reach the speed, but they tell people it needs to be running in the right conditions.

And, the user will found out they are being optimistic

Or sometimes, “user’s driving behaviour” needs to be further adjusted to reach the advertised targets speed/mileage

[quick locust]

well

base clock is guaranteed, boost is conditional

[prime jasper]

Thinking of replacing my GoXlr with something smaller...suggestions?

[fresh cedar]

no, but nice rgb

[quick locust]

@long echo what was the stream deck question

[long echo]

uhm can that thing record without the pc being on?

[quick locust]

don't think so at least for most

[long echo]

this one is from elgato or whatever

[quick locust]

yeah they're the most common brand for them

[long echo]

thanks for reminding btw 🙂

[tender horizon]

my pc is stuck on the windows hello screen

its just loading infinitely

nevermind it only took 20 minutes to load

[icy tapir]

hard drives

[arctic crag]

2008 hdd?

Also only 20 mins?

I get annoyed when it takes more than 20 seconds

[tender horizon]

i dont even know what it was

it got stuck on something

my loading time is swift

not even 10 seconds

[arctic crag]

You have ssd?

[kindred tendon]

battlefield

[grim abyss]

battlefield

[storm osprey]

drop alt is 130 right now, iirc people liked it but not for its original price

[tardy lintel]

Oooou nice

I’m just not sure I like the way it looks

I kind of want something a bit more vintage looking

[storm osprey]

yea, im kinda anti rgb myself, maybe not vintage though

well if you want vintage theres leopold

[tardy lintel]

Yeah not super vintage either but yeah def not rgb fan

Never heard of it but will check it out now

They look nice

[tardy lintel]

Def like the price

[storm osprey]

youd never expect there to be so many options when it comes to keyboards, especially when you start to think about all the combinations

[short pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855544880217849876/885512835008958464/unknown.png?width=778&height=473

[midnight crypt]

That will sustain me until i die

[lofty light]

Nuclear powered humans

[solar kestrel]

Imma eat some uranium for science

[toxic wigeon]

Whatsthe difference between b550 and x570?

[next beacon]

x570 has better PCIes, bettter overclocking abilities

b550 is cheaper

Also x570 can't handle newer processors as well as the b550

[short pier]

Oh and the x570 has a chipset fan, the b550 does not

[toxic wigeon]

Ahhh

[short pier]

For the most part, you shouldnt worry about whether the motherboard is a b550 or a x570 what matters more is the quality of the board

[pale quartz]

x570 provides PCIe 4.0 on all the PCIe express lanes, b550 is limited to 20 4.0 lanes which are dedicated to the nvme slot and GPU PCIe slot (x16), which means it is not possible to run more than 1 PCIe device in 4.0 mode on b550

[short pier]

the am4 platform is being retired soon anyways

for most people the difference between 4.0 and 3.0 is worthless

[pale quartz]

x570 really only comes into importance if you are buying the premium end boards

the 4.0 lanes are a big difference to I/O throughput though entirely unnecessary unless explicitly required for NICs or something

@toxic wigeon unless you're planning a multi NVMe setup you can safely ignore the utility that x570 offers, b550 simply delegates the other PCIe lanes into 3.0 mode

[toxic wigeon]

Uhhhh got it

[pale quartz]

as a tldr x570 runs PCIe 4.0 on all the slots, b550 runs 4.0 to the first slot, and 1 nvme drive

which is where it ends

[short pier]

bruh lmao

[pale quartz]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[next beacon]

Software dev moment

[pale quartz]

ah you spied my bio I see

[next beacon]

I had to with all that knowledge being dished out

[pale quartz]

fair I'd probably do the same

[quick locust]

The X570S ones don't

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=X.Org-AsyncFlipSecondaries

[wintry prairie]

The X570-E does, at least mine does.

[short pier]

They are like 2 billion dollars, not worth mentioning

[marsh gull]

heart attack grill be like

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-dr-evil-mike-meyers-billion-dollars-gif-3468913

Nah but yeah, fanless ones

While Z590 is like B550 I guess

[prime jasper]

If anyone wants to get into the keyboard world, but does not want to spend alot, here ya go. https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q1?variant=39406885863513

[quick locust]

What do you think of the System76 launch @prime jasper

[toxic wigeon]

Opinions on the Noctua fans?

[prime jasper]

I am not a fan of low profile boards...custom ones at least..

[prime jasper]

The best there is....

[quick locust]

Eh not the best always

But usually decent

Delta and Arctic can challenge them depending on what it is

[toxic wigeon]

Just looking at some theoretical stuff. As if, If i were to go for the 5900x

Which, Jesus fuck that price.

[prime jasper]

Is that keyboard a prebuilt?

[quick locust]

Yes but everything can be used replaced

User*

If you want different switches

Or different keymap

[prime jasper]

Ah. I see. If they offered a barebones kit maybe. But for someone like me who likes a certain switch and stabilizer and keycap it is a waste of money.

[quick locust]

Dunno if they do

[prime jasper]

I checked..i dont see one

[quick locust]

It's not a super high production I think, they've busy in Colorado manufacturing them

[prime jasper]

I can tell..To me it looks overpriced for what you get. I can build a ID80 with Gateron Ink V2 switches, durock V2 stabs and nice keycaps for less..and it will all be better quality.

I like this though!

[quick locust]

Yeah cause built and manufactured in the US

Plus not a huge company

Kinda same thing with Unicomp who builds their keyboards in Kentucky

[obsidian thicket]

I finally managed to fix fps on my rtx 3070 ti..

from 80-100 to 160-200

[quick locust]

Nice

[obsidian thicket]

with adding another pair of ram and run it on dual channel

thanks for suggesting a ram upgrade!! ❤️

I'm really grateful

[prime jasper]

I think companies try to use the "Made in the USA" to market their product. I am sure the PCB was not "made in the USA". It was made in China just like the rest. For me, "Made in the USA" doesn't justify a high price, because 99% of time it is just marketing.

[quick locust]

Good :)

[quick locust]

Yeah true, though Unicomp is truly made in the US

They've had factories for ages

They did the original IBM keyboards too like model F and M

System76 though I think PCB is from China since they're smaller and newer, but idk

[prime jasper]

And the switches, and the keycaps, and the stabs...all made in china. They need to advertise as "assembled in Colorado", not made. lol

[quick locust]

Yeah

I think Unicomp one of the only that manufacture full KB in US

System 76 is too small to do that

[prime jasper]

They need to be careful with that..they can get sued for false advertisement. That is why the iphone says "designed in California. Assembled in China".

[quick locust]

Yeah

[prime jasper]

I might be the one to start a lawsuit. Cuz that is the american way😂😂😂

[quick locust]

Lul

[prime jasper]

Just sue the crap out of everyone so u can get money and not work. lol

I got to get to bed. I got up to early this morning. Have a good day!

[quick locust]

Beat the RIAA in number of lawsuit

Alright

[wintry prairie]

I'm using a 5900X and have Noctua fans on my Rads. There are some Phanteks that are slightly better, but close in performance to "noise" ratio.

NOCTUA
Pro: They are very good
Con: Price, and color if you don't like that color scheme.

[quick locust]

They come in black

Most of them

And some other colours for the corners

I use a NH-D15 which is decent

Very quiet with my 8700K

As long as my GPU isn't blasting at 3000 rpm next to it cause then it doesn't matter

[wintry prairie]

The "GOOD" ones do not come in black. But you can paint them.

[quick locust]

Yeah I know

Can also just get Delta or Arctic in that case

Except the server ones if you don't want to be deaf

Obviously

[wintry prairie]

The ones to get are the:

Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM

[quick locust]

Yeah I know th

Them

Pretty decent

[wintry prairie]

Very Good, almost the best.

[quick locust]

Imagine a heatsink with Silverstone 180mm fans

[wintry prairie]

No

[quick locust]

Big

And cool

[wintry prairie]

No

[quick locust]

Lul

[wintry prairie]

No

[storm osprey]

Lul

[primal pier]

Lul

[storm osprey]

you ruined it

[primal pier]

[storm osprey]

[latent light]

4K 240Hz display could launch end of this year

[arctic crag]

But is it even possible?

Getting 240 fps at 4K

[storm osprey]

depends on a ton of factors, but yes?

[arctic crag]

Well I mean we aren’t talking about games like csgo

[storm osprey]

one game where wanting that kind of refresh rate is actually reasonable

[arctic crag]

At 4K?

[storm osprey]

i didnt say the resolution was reasonable

[arctic crag]

I’m talking about 4K 240hz not just 240hz

[storm osprey]

you asked if you could play at 4k 240hz, the answer is yes, that yes applies to something like csgo at low settings though

[latent light]

RTX 4090 + DLSS 3.0 = 4K 240Hz

[primal pier]

Hey guys kinda new to this budget thing and how do you rate my new setup kinda built it on a budget

[storm osprey]

do i think its reasonable to pay/play for 4k 240hz? no, but thats not the topic is it?

[arctic crag]

Stop selling drugs mate

This setup i bet it’s 10k

[storm osprey]

apparently overwatch gets 300+ fps at 4k low settings

and bfv gets 150fps at 4k low settings

[primal pier]

As lad once said that’s a budget

Clearly the lad who said that is more of a poor mans budget compare to the pic I sent

$300 keyboard
$500 keyboard

[latent light]

The 12th generation Intel Alder Lake CPUs will feature 16 lanes of PCIe 5.0 (which can be bifurcated in either a 1x16 design or a 2x8 design.) The chipset plan appears to suggest that only Intel SSDs will be able to support PCIe 5.0 lanes. DDR4 and DDR5 are also natively supported with a total of two channels.

Intel is making only their own SSDs work exclusively with PCIe 5

[arctic crag]

That lad is a drug dealer for sure

[proud trellis]

i mean its good money soooo...

[arctic crag]

So you’re a drug dealer?

[proud trellis]

no

[primal pier]

I mean you want in

[coral river]

Anyone in here expert with 4G/LTE routers and antennas?

if so please DM me

[thick stratus]

PC be looking like a fridge

[tender horizon]

help

why did this randomly happen

completely out of nowhere

[short pier]

Graphics card go brrr

Check your connections asap

[midnight crypt]

could be a driver crash

[tender horizon]

yeah could be

[short pier]

what card do you have?

[tender horizon]

my pointer sometimes goes weird

radeon hd 6670

old af

died on me just now tho

[short pier]

Yeah that's old old

[tender horizon]

probs gonna switch to something higher up now

[short pier]

makes sense

[tender horizon]

maybe a 2060 or something

i cant even play runescape with the 6670

i shit you not

[short pier]

yeesh

is that it

[tender horizon]

yup

[short pier]

it's an old dog

needs to be put down

[midnight crypt]

it should be able to handle gta 5

[short pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467231287250255872/878813152626765834/image0.png

[supple bane]

looks like a dead gpu to me.

[lofty lake]

minecraft mod

[pale quartz]

memory corruption, your card's VRAM hit the frier

[tender horizon]

jolly good

right my pc is out of actions for a few months or so

[supple bane]

you have tried it right? and it doesnt work?

[tender horizon]

restarting it now

[latent light]

Lol I can't even get a steady 60 fps on RS3 especially on populated worlds, got a pretty good PC

[tender horizon]

Below 60fps would be a dream for me

So I stick to console

No hardware limitations

[supple bane]

a console will give a much better experience than the E waste of a gpu you have.

or had.

[tender horizon]

More or less had

[latent light]

I played RS3 with all settings maxed

[tender horizon]

yeah my monitor wont turn on

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-dead-ded-died-dies-gif-17396570

rest in piece hd 6670, it died at a ripe old age of 10 years young. serving not many frames at pretty meh graphics all its life.

you will be remembered.

[proud trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[tender horizon]

I REVIVED IT

Fucking hell yeah

it works now

[supple bane]

i was proud of my eulogy

[tender horizon]

Postponed funeral

We can have another funeral if I decide to try and run CP2077 or 2042 on my PC

[short pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810355244860571719/885977390566735872/1.jpg

[latent light]

Found used i7-9700K for $120

https://videocardz.com/newz/another-amd-cryptomining-card-spotted-with-radeon-rx-6700m-specs-2304-cores-and-10gb-memory

RX 6700 mining GPU with 10GB VRAM on 160-bit memory bus

[wintry prairie]

Nice

[outer python]

The real minigun would be colder than a pc with cyberpunk at max graphics

[short pier]

of course

[lofty lake]

technology

[wintry prairie]

[prime jasper]

Get your RandomFrankP deskpad before they sell out! They have been selling out in a few days everytime they are listed! I have about 9 deskpads from NovelKeyz and I can tell you these are not some cheap amazon crap. https://novelkeys.com/collections/deskpads/products/randomfrankp-x-nk_-deskpad (not an affiliate link)

[wraith sky]

I used to have a voodoo 3dfx card.

[wintry prairie]

I used to SLI them 🙂

It was fun!

So much fun!

[molten bramble]

SLI didn't exist with 3DFX.

[wintry prairie]

It sure did on the Voodoo card 🙂

[molten bramble]

I had two voodoos I ran in tandem as well.

It didn't.

When they started getting courted by Nvidia, that's where the technology became a thing.

That's right before they failed and got bought out.

[wintry prairie]

Voodoo 2 and 3 had SLI

[molten bramble]

Quite literally did not.

Voodoo 5 was the first iteration as I recall.

I'd have to go back and look at the manuals.

[wintry prairie]

Here is a quote
"The Voodoo2 introduced Scan-Line Interleave (SLI) capability to the PC market. In SLI mode, two Voodoo2 boards installed in a PC run in parallel, each unit drawing half the lines of the display. Voodoo2 SLI not only doubles rendering throughput[disputed – discuss], it also increases the total framebuffer memory, and thus the maximum supported screen resolution increased to an impressive (for its time) 1024 × 768. However, texture memory is not doubled because each card needed to duplicate the scene data. The original Voodoo Graphics also has SLI capability, but it is only used in the arcade and professional markets.

In late 1998, 3dfx released the Voodoo3, which effectively replaced the Voodoo2 as the company's flagship product. The base model Voodoo3 2000 offers in a single card slightly greater performance than a Voodoo2 SLI + 2D card in some situations. The 3000 and 3500 models offers performance exceeding Voodoo2 SLI in certain environments.[1] At the same time 3dfx also released the budget-priced Voodoo Banshee, a combination 2D/3D card that combines a 2D accelerator with an overclocked but incomplete Voodoo2, missing one of the texture units."

[molten bramble]

They're in a box somewhere.

[wintry prairie]

I had them and did it.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[molten bramble]

Sure you did.

[wintry prairie]

Wow, why so hostile?

[molten bramble]

Not hostile.

Just because someone disagrees, doesn't mean they're hostile or that it's personal.

It's that they disagree.

[short pier]

fight fight fight fight

[wraith sky]

That does come across as hostile, and very unprofessional. You are not disagreeing, you are not even open to the discussion even with proof.

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-eating-popcorn-movie-time-gif-12551924

[molten bramble]

Did not ask.

[short pier]

ayo

[molten bramble]

Settle down.

[short pier]

alright man

Hold on lemme turn on the grammar machine

Alright, it is done.

[latent light]

Intel 12th gen stock coolers

[molten bramble]

What are these for?

Ah

12th gen

[short pier]

Wow, those look equally terrible to the ones that are currently available.

[wraith sky]

Coolers

[latent light]

They look tiny

[midnight crypt]

#ad

[prime jasper]

No. Its a link.

[midnight crypt]

Your post reads like an ad is what i mean

[coarse nimbus]

I have about 9 deskpads from NovelKeyz sounds like a shit product if you need 9 of them

[lofty lake]

true

[prime jasper]

9 DIFFERENT ONES..I like to change my setup monthly. Every month is a different theme.

[coarse nimbus]

ahhhh, awoootism

[midnight crypt]

Sounds like a huge PITA

[prime jasper]

Nah. Got lots of free time

[prime jasper]

Not sure what that even means.

[latent light]

Build a PC that uses car radiators for cooling

[prime jasper]

Why? At some point there are diminishing returns?

[latent light]

Cuz it vroom

[molten bramble]

@wintry prairie I think you've misunderstood SLI in the sense of what it is today versus what it was then. 3DFX was one of several manufacturers that linked cards together for increased performance/load distribution. That's not what SLI is in the sense of SLI in the modern age, because PCI-E wasn't a feature available at that time. Everything was either AGP (to which a dual AGP board pretty much wasn't really available), PCI, or ISA. SLI as a IP was purchased and reengineered by Nvidia. 3DFX's implementation is not in the same arena.

Scannable versus Scalable

[latent light]

I find it nuts that SLI/Xfire actually can decrease performance in some games or apps

[molten bramble]

It was that way from the beginning to be honest.

[latent light]

Did it create higher latency?

[molten bramble]

There were applications/games that could not take advantage of what was essentially a form of parallel processing.

It could, but not in all applications of the technology.

There was all sorts of bottlenecks on old machines of that time.

[latent light]

You know, multi-GPU is coming back but not how we've experienced it before. MCM design is gonna be revolutionary

[molten bramble]

Was it ATI that AMD bought which gave them Xfire? I don't remember if it was that or if it was another reverse engineer of Nvidia in that time.

[molten bramble]

I suspect they'll figure out a way to put it on one board tbh. Even in modern systems, it can saturate lanes.

A dedicated set of lanes for one card with multi-GPUs seems plausible. Isn't that what Intel was trying to play with?

[latent light]

AMD RDNA3 has 2 GPU chips, there's the main chip and the slave chip and the slave one is connected to the main chip via Infinity Fabric (like Ryzen CPUs) so the slave chip is seen as part of the main GPU chip

Nvidia Hopper will do something similar to this

[molten bramble]

Think Apple did the same thing with their fabric implementation.

[latent light]

Ye for the top-end workstation GPUs

[molten bramble]

Yeah

[latent light]

Vega II?

Vega Pro II?

Idr

[molten bramble]

Something like that, I don't remember what it was called off-hand.

I remember when the cheese grater was released, they were really talking it up.

[latent light]

Yeah that was couple years ago

[molten bramble]

What happened to my GPU history that was in the pins here?

There we go

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/wall-of-gpu-history/

[latent light]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-vega-ii.c3426

2 PCIe slot connections lol

[molten bramble]

I guess that makes sense, because you'd need a lot of bandwidth lanes and power.

[molten bramble]

That card looks wild, but it's also hilarious that we've come back around to a point where cards are once again huge.

[rocky lantern]

Welp I should sell my 3080 ti

[storm osprey]

Unless there’s a huuuge jump at a damn good price I’ll keep my gpu for a long while.

[modern gull]

I had SLI once and no more after that. It is quite unreliable considering not all game engines support it and in many games i would have to enable SLI trough NV inspector as they wasn't enabled trough drivers for that game. There was at times i had to use a lot of time finding the right SLI profile as the wrong one would cause artifacts etc... If everything was working as it should i got a couple generations of performance boost at best. gtx 660 sli could in some cases be about the same as a 970. Maybe NV link they made works well compared to SLI, haven't really researched it much

[molten bramble]

That's similar to what Dr. Disrespect was saying awhile back as well. He was running it and most of the titles he was playing weren't taking advantage of it.

[modern gull]

Mhm not a surprise, quite unreliable. But from what i understand NV link is much better, basically making 2 gpus into 1. You even get Vram from both cards. Tbh i doubt i'll get a 2nd gpu tho, i'll probably just buy 1 strong each time i am doing that. Like now my 3070 is basically more than enough

[coarse nimbus]

sli is just noob bait for people with more money than sense ...or youtubers trying to get clicks, casually glance at that 4 1080ti pyramid build from linus

[molten bramble]

I had considered getting a second 3080 for NV Link... but other than editing/encoding, in terms of a game I have nothing really to take advantage of it. Something like MSFS likely wouldn't even do better with it.

[modern gull]

Fair enough, i mean it would be just throwing money out the window at that stage i suppose

[molten bramble]

I could certainly get utility out of it if Adobe Premiere can take advantage of it.

I should look that up.

[modern gull]

The 3070 has been more than enough for me when using premiere pro

[molten bramble]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/studio/software/ Seems to indicate it might be a possibility.

[modern gull]

Oh they have done this for a while now, they even have studio drivers for creative apps

[molten bramble]

Yeah, I mean, taking advantage of NVLink

I already use NVENC

[modern gull]

Ah

I see

[molten bramble]

If it lets me double-down, I wouldn't mind the extra power.

I'd have to get a fat PSU though.

[modern gull]

I mean who would mind 😛

Mhm would need that

[molten bramble]

Probably would get hot as shit as well, would need to swap over to a full-on reservoir perhaps.

This setup with the 3080 alone raises temps in this room like a small fire.

😄

[modern gull]

[prime jasper]

SLI is a waste for gaming...but not all people are gaymers.

[modern gull]

Do you need more than a 3080 for your use tho? @molten bramble

[molten bramble]

I mean, if it would allow me a 50% reduction in encoding time in video or speed up ML/AI projects like the neural net experiment I am working on for work, I'd be willing to try it.

[modern gull]

Fair enough. Ah i would assume thos neural net things require lot's of resources

[molten bramble]

So far it's been manageable, but I could see it scaling to a point I might need to place it elsewhere or beef up my gear.

[prime jasper]

SLI was great, in 2010😂

[molten bramble]

I can't say that fan placement offset on the bottom doesn't trigger me a little. 😄

[prime jasper]

Me to...i dont know why they designed it that way

I miss SLI being worth it...for gaming

[molten bramble]

Was it ever though?

Honest question.

[prime jasper]

It was...I had almost triple the fps with that setup...2010 was a great year. lol

I actually just did it for 3dmark scores and to be in the top 10 in the world on 3dmark.lol

[modern gull]

I see, i see

[opaque saddle]

I saw a YouTube video of linking 3-4 1030 together (not SLI) and made it a “3090 or a 4120”. It just doesn’t worth it

[solid maple]

i need help

having brain damage since this morning

there is a lap with ubuntu and i need to boot windows to it ,

[alpine haven]

What?

[solid maple]

nvm i fixed it my self , used all of my brain cells

[wintry prairie]

Loved doing my Voodoo 2 SLI back in the day.

[candid spire]

omg, i am big confusion rn, i got a prebuilt, and the ram said it was 2666mhz, but when i check in task manager its says 3200mhz????

[prime jasper]

Its called xmp enabled

People in this discord are so dumb. Google will answer it all!

[lament robin]

Всем привет, кто может помочь с проблемой?

[wintry prairie]

English please.

[prime jasper]

No. Not at all. Just PC

[wintry prairie]

Thanks for the DM @lament robin

What's your problem with BFV?

[lament robin]

my problem is that when the game starts, some kind of frostbite starts and then closes

[wintry prairie]

That is ok

[lament robin]

my pc is ancient, but the game should run?

if necessary, I can write the characteristics of the pc

[wintry prairie]

There have been MANY issues of late with BFV, even with newer computers, so you may be outta luck. Off the top of my head I'd say make sure you are on DX11, and lower your settings.

[lament robin]

my video card supports 11 DX, how can I lower the settings if it doesn't even start?

[wintry prairie]

This may be a situation where you'll need to talk to support.

[lament robin]

well, how to do it?

[wintry prairie]

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[lament robin]

thank you

[wintry prairie]

Anytime, good luck!

[toxic wigeon]

So a question for OCE people.
What's a good Office chair from officeworks?

Maybe within the 500 to 800 dollar range

[chrome skiff]

dont spend extra money, get staples hyken mesh chair one of the better value chairs out there

somewhere I'm the 200 dollar range

https://www.staples.com/staples-hyken-technical-mesh-task-chair-silver-53293/product_24328579?storeId=10001&AID=10921729&PID=4485850&SID=b4496bc0ee6311ebbfd43e364c14c4010INT&cvosrc=affiliate.cj.4485850&cvo_campaign=Coupon&cm_mmc=CJ-_-4485850-_-4485850-_-10921729&CID=AFF%3A4485850%3A4485850%3A10921729&CJPIXEL=CJPIXEL&cjevent=b4787720ee6311eb80ba040c0a82b838&userEnv=&tenantId=StaplesDotCom&locale=en-US&zipCode=17601&channel=WEB&encode=

[wintry prairie]

Is that in OCE?

[opaque saddle]

He wants an office chair from a shop called officeworks

[wintry prairie]

^^ This

[opaque saddle]

That link doesn’t seems like from OCE anyway… it is rebranded as winc In Australia

[wraith sky]

Oh wow, so they did do SLI, nice!

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2Ro4Ca_M4M&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed

[wintry prairie]

Yup
https://youtu.be/eI-cApEjMDY

[supple bane]

Thats not a nice thing to say

[coarse nimbus]

shh dont hate on the twat who has more money than sense 🙃

[chrome skiff]

Yeah seems about right, punish people who go out of their way to get what they want. How dare they.

Not to mention he is right, most actual game problems replied to with support command and then 98% of other results come from youtube videos. Not to long ago someone just said you can youtube any hardware and most of the time find the performance video you are looking for he isnt wrong.

[prime jasper]

Yo my Battlefield 5 (on steam) just randomly deinstalled itself for some reason

Has anyone else had the same issue, or?

[chrome skiff]

are the files still on the drive?

[prime jasper]

Uhh, what are they called again?

I'll try to see if they're there still

I can't send images, but I still have the shortcut on my desktop

[chrome skiff]

its the game folder for steam idk what your directory is sometimes steam games unhighlight and say to install but they are actually still there and just have to be linked again. No i never had steam fully uninstall games from my computer

[prime jasper]

I tried launching it now, it says "Discovering existing files for Battlefield 5" so when It's over I'll send an update

[chrome skiff]

it should just pickup the old files might need a patch or small update but not the whole game again

[molten coral]

He isn't wrong but saying people are dumb is just a dick move.

[chrome skiff]

Oh really? huh

I guess things change all the time

[chrome skiff]

my wall pc was done like that and people said it was too big, but let a brand name do it and noone bats an eye

[prime jasper]

damn

[prime jasper]

Hi guys i got a problem i have a 3060 and ryzen 7 2700x and in battlefield v i get massive shutters

[dry pike]

A PC can't be "too big", pffff

"Oh noes, my PC is too big, gets too many FPSs and looks too good"

[next beacon]

NASA problems

[latent light]

Intel next-gen server CPU leaks out, Xeon AP Server CPU to pack up to 128 cores (or more)

I heard up to 224 cores

A fuckton of efficient cores but hardly any performance cores

[fervent yacht]

do u guys think a r5 3600 + gtx1650s will be enough?

for 2042

[brazen totem]

yeah, probably, but I wouldn't expect high framerates and settings

[wanton sky]

Predicted prices for RTX 4000 series https://twitter.com/GraphicallyChal/status/1436057664706924562

[fervent yacht]

if i play in low set

how many fps i would get?

more than 90?

[brazen totem]

Well, I think no one can answer to that question since the game is not finished yet

[fervent yacht]

yeah

[wanton sky]

Check it when you play the beta and decide then if it's enough or not

[fervent yacht]

i want to buy it, but idk if the pre-order bundles will be available after the beta ends

i want the gold one

[brazen totem]

btw, is there a date for the beta yet?

[wanton sky]

No, September 22nd is still a rumour

[wanton sky]

It's still a pre-order because the game hasn't been released then 😉

[brazen totem]

oh, a month before the release

[fervent yacht]

yeah, i hope so

[wanton sky]

What edition do you want to buy?

[fervent yacht]

gold edition

just for the battle pass

[wanton sky]

You can buy EA Play for one month. With EA Play you have early access with the beta. If you like the beta, you can buy the Gold Edition with 10% discount

[fervent yacht]

maybe i will try it

[wanton sky]

In Euros it's +/- €5 cheaper with EA Play

[fervent yacht]

the problem is that i don't have a r5 3600 yet

[wanton sky]

• you can play EA games for 1 month

[brazen totem]

what's your CPU right now?

[fervent yacht]

r3 3200 🥲

[brazen totem]

3200G?

[wanton sky]

Is it a quad?

[fervent yacht]

yeah

[brazen totem]

should be 4c/8th

[wanton sky]

3200G... I don't know

[fervent yacht]

it can't even run bfv above 60 fps

[brazen totem]

the R5 3600 is a lot faster. So, if the beta already runs good on your system, it can only get better. I kinda doubt that a Zen+ CPU will be enough for the game tho

[fervent yacht]

yeah

i will try that

thx guys @brazen totem @wanton sky

[wanton sky]

Here you have the specs for the Technical Play test of 2042. Specs can change a little bit for launch https://help.ea.com/nl/help/battlefield/battlefield-2042/battlefield-2042-closed-technical-test/

[fervent yacht]

how much do you think

that it will change

[wanton sky]

I really don't know. I think they will release the official specs before the beta so maybe in the coming week

[dry pike]

or a lot, we don't really know

[brazen totem]

Most of the times, if they change, they are getting lower. A 3200G is faster than a FX8350, so you can actually get playable framerates based on that, but I don't know if even a 3600 will be enough for a 128 Players match

Probably, during the beta, some channels on YT will test budget builds on the game, so you don't really have to worry

[fervent yacht]

like, in bfv, it runs with low set, runs above 120 fps

[wanton sky]

And if you want to buy new components, wait for the official specs if that's possible

[fervent yacht]

2042 maybe will be 20 or 30 fps below

[brazen totem]

We really don't know. There are a lot of changes to the physics, graphics and gamemodes that might require a lot more power from your system. As I said, you have to wait the beta for official performance testing

[fervent yacht]

yeah

i hope someone makes a benchmark vid on yt 😂

[brazen totem]

100% there will be benchmarks, and since the 3600 is a popular CPU, you can expect a lot of benchmarks including it

[fervent yacht]

fingers crossed 🤞

[rare yew]

is hdr10 good or should i turn off

[brazen totem]

well, if you want higher framerates and less latency, you should turn it off

but, if you have a really good display, the eyes to notice HDR and want to enjoy the graphics a bit more, then keep it on

[rare yew]

i have a gaming laptop with a 3060 so idk lol

[brazen totem]

Try the game with it on and see if you notice any appreciable difference. If you don't really see any differences, then turn it off

[silk radish]

Ur pfp hits diffrent

In the lungs

[brazen totem]

Ikr ahahah

[twilit quiver]

Will a 4600h gtx 1650 mobile do fine for bf5

720p low or medium cuz I wnana run at 120 fps

Not really an eye candy guy

[midnight crypt]

Maybe

Probably not though

[twilit quiver]

For 720p?

I mean meets minimum requirements

if I turn everything to low and shit would that help

But I usually max out the fov and play low

[wintry prairie]

It seems like you already know the answer.

👍

[twilit quiver]

I don’t tho

Cause it’s 720p and low

I don’t know how much it ll drop bc it’s the minimum requirements

[molten bramble]

!!bfvspecs

[silent oasis]

ℹ Battlefield V: System Requirements:
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451791186642993152/509053395768705024/sys.png

[molten bramble]

If it beats that, you're good.

[midnight crypt]

Use Google to try and find your answer

[twilit quiver]

Beats minimum

[molten bramble]

If you're not running at or above recommended, no amount of tinkering is really going to do much for the degraded performance.

[twilit quiver]

Ye I mean no shit but like I’m in the middle of minimum and recommended

So like

Idk

[latent light]

A desktop GTX 1650 can't reach 120 fps, so the mobile one definitely wont

[molten bramble]

"Will a 4600h gtx 1650 mobile do fine for bf5" -- The answer you're seeking is likely no.

[midnight crypt]

It will do fine but not for 120fps

[twilit quiver]

So 60s

[latent light]

Yeah it's decent for 1080p 60 fps

If playing at low/medium settings

[twilit quiver]

How bout 720p 80-90isj

Ish

[latent light]

Maybe

[midnight crypt]

720p is very blurry though

[twilit quiver]

For bfv?

[midnight crypt]

Not sure you would want to sacrifice clarity

[twilit quiver]

I mean for other games a laptop screen 720p is good enough

[molten bramble]

It's not other games. I'd prefer clarity to FPS myself.

[twilit quiver]

I’ll turn to medium I guess and some other stuff

[latent light]

Had 15.6 inch laptop with 900p display, way better pixel density than my 24 inch 1080p desktop monitor

[midnight crypt]

Low settings are fine for bf5

[molten bramble]

Agreed, negligible differences.

[latent light]

Can't believe there are 1440p laptops, no point for gaming imo

Maybe for content creation stuff

17.3 inch laptop doesn't need more than 1080p imo

[twilit quiver]

A review 1 yr ago with around the same specs as my laptop has 95fps but with a ti version with same cpu at low settings

So would I be able to play at like

900p

Fov and all view distances turned up

At like 50-60fps

[alpine haven]

Not sure why that posted here, lol.

[twilit quiver]

Sus

[marsh gull]

my desktop 1650super reaches sometimes 120fps in bf1 and bf5 in ultra

[marsh gull]

yes its disgusting

[wraith sky]

💩

[lament flare]

What's ram CL is good for gaming? I plan to change the ram.

[wintry prairie]

14

[supple bane]

cl isnt as important as the speed. if you can get cl18 or below you are good to go.

[opaque saddle]

It is recommended to check if the ram you are getting is compatible to pair with your motherboard, that is the absolute number one priority… especially for AMD board.

[wraith sky]

To answer your question, pretty much what HK recommends 100%!

[weak girder]

the person who reacted with those emotes to your text is either 10 or needs to get a life

[supple bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOvvX1Etdp0

you will see that it really doesnt matter

because, some times cl14 is a few fps faster, some times they are the exact same and sometimes cl18 is faster.

granty is always wrong tho, like usual

like i said, speed is more important over timings, and the tighter you have your timings the lower your speed will be.

[quick locust]

I run 3600 cl 14

[supple bane]

i mean yeah thats great ram. but the original question was what is good for gaming

[quick locust]

Yeah

[supple bane]

and like i said, as long as its below cl18, you really arent missing out on much

a few fps at most, or exactly the same performance.

[lament flare]

Is there ram 3200mhz cl14 for laptop?

[wintry prairie]

I know there is 3200mhz cl16 for laptop. Great for gamers. About $150 for a 32GB kit.

@lament flare ^^

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B083W5ZRJ1?tag=amz-mkt-chr-us-20&ascsubtag=1ba00-01000-org00-win10-other-smile-us000-pcomp-feature-scomp-feature-scomp&ref=aa_scomp

[lament flare]

Thank you for sharing.

[wintry prairie]

Anytime, I hope that helps!

[weak girder]

I have 2666mhz 2x8gb ram

[wintry prairie]

Nice

[supple bane]

2400mhz cl13 here

[wraith sky]

Awesome

[quick locust]

My previous ram was 2400 cl 18

Lul

[wintry prairie]

Nice

[strong oak]

Will I be able to play 2042 on my current rig that plays BFV mostly Medium-some High?

[wintry prairie]

Possibly

[strong oak]

I hope so. Prices of GPUs and chips are going through the roof here

[wintry prairie]

Where's here?

[strong oak]

Ind

[wintry prairie]

India, nice!

[strong oak]

Super expensive

[wintry prairie]

Awe, seems like a global thing really.

[strong oak]

True

PC gaming here is like owning an expensive car which you gotta maintain. 🤣

[wintry prairie]

Oh my! 😂

[strong oak]

Yeah. So noone wants to buy a new one unless the old one is dead.

[wintry prairie]

Wow

[strong oak]

Yep. Normal folks can’t afford a gaming PC. That’s why Indians play games like CS, Rainbow six, Dota, etc. they don’t require an amazing PC

That’s why AAA don’t get enough Indian servers.

It is changing but slow. New technology is expensive here. Really expensive.

RTX Series GPU are like 1500-2000USD

[supple bane]

new technology is expensive in all third world countries.

[strong oak]

True

Btw, what is a third world country?

[wintry prairie]

Some of them are that much or more in the US too.

[strong oak]

Ah damn

Last generation GTXs are expensive as well

[wintry prairie]

GPUs are quite expensive

[strong oak]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-uhuh-duh-ryan-reynolds-gif-17994133

[supple bane]

it doesnt have an exact definition. but its a country that has a lower human development index.

[wintry prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-uhuh-duh-ryan-reynolds-gif-17994133

[supple bane]

the thing with india is there are areas that make it a first world country and areas, like dharavi, that make it a third world country

[strong oak]

Third World refers actually to the countries that did not belong to any power bloc during Cold War. First World was West, Second World was communist countries and Third World was the countries who didn’t form any part of either.
The term eventually got associated with low HDI while the origin had nothing to do with it.

[strong oak]

💯

[supple bane]

that is the original definition yes,

but now its a slang term associated with the HDI

[strong oak]

It is. But I’ve only heard it online. Noone uses it in official forums.

That’s why wanted to ask why

[supple bane]

well my point stands, in areas of any country with a low HDI, it may as well be impossible to get new technology for reasonable prices

[quick locust]

Time to clean my pc

It has more cat hairs than my cat at this point

[wintry prairie]

Use clean water

[supple bane]

lmao

its probably time i clean my pc soon.

[twilit quiver]

I mean I bought like cl22 3200mhz ddr4 8x2 kid bc it was cheaper than the 2133mhz ddr4 ram, was the cheapest out of all of em and they work for me

[wintry prairie]

OK

[quick locust]

Thermal paste is unobtanium in physical stores though so will have to wait quite a while for that to ship

[wintry prairie]

Its on its way.

[plain stag]

Cl22??

Holyyy

That latency

[wintry prairie]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twilit quiver]

Yes

Cl22

[plain stag]

How much did you pay for that

And which kit is it

[twilit quiver]

Like 30 bucks

[plain stag]

Alright

I guess its justified then

[twilit quiver]

So is it like worse than 2133mhz ram

[plain stag]

But damn, i haven't seen cl20+ and 3200 in a long time

Well, there is an equation

Probably not

But they might be close in terms of performance

Depends whats the latency on that 2133 kit

Whose kit is it?

[twilit quiver]

teamgroup elite

[plain stag]

Well, at least it was 30 bucks for 16gb

[twilit quiver]

oh wait no

It was a single stick 8gb