technology

[quick locust]

well yeah they can't do same performance

[arctic crag]

3080 laptop is basically an rtx 3060 ti

[quick locust]

its impossible due to thermal and power

but yeah they should add an M to it

like AMD does and that nvidia used to do

[arctic crag]

AMD is good

[quick locust]

like 6800M

[arctic crag]

Yeah

[quick locust]

nvidia used to do M as well

[arctic crag]

Max q and Max p

[quick locust]

but iirc after pascal they use same die as desktop just much lower clock due to power and thermal

so they called it the same since

before that they weren't the same die at all

[arctic crag]

Now you can't know what gpu you're getting like you might get an rtx 3080 with 80w

I'm talking about normal consumer

[quick locust]

i know

they should be more clear

but noone should expect same performance as desktop

they should just add an M

[arctic crag]

yeah absolute dick move

[quick locust]

They do actually specify that in software and on the hardware

just not in marketing

[arctic crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF_5EKNX0Eg this dude describes me now

[quick locust]

they do actually make them identify as it

but they don't slap it on the marketing for laptops

[arctic crag]

yeah

[quick locust]

I guess "hey here's a desktop gpu but it's 40% slower" didnt fit in marketing

[arctic crag]

60% lol

[quick locust]

😛

but yeah its impossible to have same performance

they should return what they used to do pre pascal

[arctic crag]

I remember with 10 series the difference was like 10%

[quick locust]

the power difference was much lower

[arctic crag]

I was saying lol

[quick locust]

reminder a 1080 was 180W

3080 is 350W

[arctic crag]

yeah

Hopfully next gen we get lower power consumption

[quick locust]

doubt

it has kept increasing each gen

more transistors and higher clock

and more hungry memory

[arctic crag]

Actually back then in 600series or 700 series it was way more than 1000 series

[quick locust]

nah

780 ti is same as 1080 ti

[arctic crag]

gtx 680 was like 200w

[quick locust]

most 1080s were around 180-200

[arctic crag]

Yeah you're right i was wrong

I remember back then all people i know where getting a high wattage psu like 850

or 750

[quick locust]

it went down from vega to first gen rdna

but vega was also hungry

vega 64 use more than 2080 ti

[wintry prairie]

Morning

[arctic crag]

People just care about performance and they don't give a shit about power consumption

[arctic crag]

Morning

But it's night here lol

[quick locust]

yeah well

they don't have to as much on desktop

but on laptop they do have to

since they are always limited in cooling and power

desktop is much more unrestricted in that

in comparison

[arctic crag]

I know ,I was talking about AMD gpus

[quick locust]

same thing applies

i used vega 64 and 2080 ti in same pc for a while

before i got my vega 64 sold

my PSU is stronk though so no worries

[arctic crag]

You got like 1000w?

[quick locust]

ye

[arctic crag]

Neat

[quick locust]

its never had trouble with anything and its quiet

[arctic crag]

Can you run 2x3080 sli?

[quick locust]

it's an old design by now but w/e

3080 doesnt do sli

but yes it could run two

[arctic crag]

What the shit nvidia

[quick locust]

only 3090 does

AMD removed crossfire support completely since rdna

Nvidia nearly removed theirs

[arctic crag]

I see

[quick locust]

Except on professional cards that is

AMD has quad ones there

Which is wild

and dual GPU on one card for macs

they just removed it on consumer since sli/crossfire died out

so why bother

[arctic crag]

Not a plenty of people had sli back then

Only pros or people that wanted to break 3d mark record

[quick locust]

yeah i know

it still exist on professional cards

[midnight crypt]

thats nvlink

[quick locust]

CDNA cards and nvidias professional

yeah i know

pcie 5.0 removes the need of the secondary connector

so you can do it without the connector there

which is pretty cool

on IBM cpus and soon intel

[arctic crag]

@quick locust do you play bf4?

[quick locust]

not much, didn't game much in that period when it came out (also why i skipped BF1 and Hardline)

Only played it shortly after launch

[arctic crag]

So you’re more of bfv player?

[quick locust]

Kind of? Well I played the old ones but held a break due to studying

During that era

So it's more I played the old, skipped middle then returned

[arctic crag]

Wanna play bf4 now?

[quick locust]

No sorry

[arctic crag]

Ok mate you good

[quick locust]

https://www.theverge.com/22632285/epomaker-ak84s-review-wireless-bluetooth-keyboard-75-percent

I don't like 75 keyboards really

but looks interesting

I always go full size

[wintry prairie]

One of my PSU is 2400W

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmgBwMHpP1w&ab_channel=Dave2D

[wintry prairie]

I'm on the list, now I just have to wait:

[lusty star]

Damn im in a dilemma
on one hand, i can get the flagship Strix G15 6800M advantage edition with 12 GB vram
OR
Acer Predator 11800H and 3060 with 6 GB VRAM
Cost is almost the same

idk which one to go for

since there's no direct comparision available

3070 laptops are just Out Of Stock everywhere so either i can get this 6800M OR a 3060

[wintry prairie]

as far as GPU, they are VERY similar

[quick locust]

6800M then

slightly better and more vram

worse RT but eh

[lusty star]

Tbh, Idc about Ray tracing

[wintry prairie]

There ya go then 6800M

[quick locust]

6800m is closer to 3070

in most games

[lusty star]

I'm just worried about driver support tbh

[wintry prairie]

Don't worry

[quick locust]

AMD drivers for rdna2 is decent

[lusty star]

The 3060 is probably a 130W variant

So how does that 3060@130W compare to 6800M in modern titles where fps doesn't reach that 200 mark

[quick locust]

From HUB

[wintry prairie]

Seems the choice is straightforward

[lusty star]

So team red?

[quick locust]

Does worse in RT though and some content creation

but thats not a big surprise

[cloud solar]

who in their right mind would use rt on a laptop

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6vhg7iqPY&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed you can see here

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cloud solar]

sounds terrible

[wintry prairie]

If your choice is ONLY between those two choices, then yep.

[quick locust]

yeah its around 3070 most of time

[lusty star]

I wanted to get a 3070

But the thing has been out of stock for like 1 and a half month

[lusty star]

And i gotta get my laptop in 20 days tops

[wintry prairie]

Good luck

[quick locust]

yeah then 6800M one

better than 3060 and slightly better than 3070

[lusty star]

Yea, if 6800m is the only option, and no 3070
I'll go for that
Hopefully a 3070 variant comes in stock

[quick locust]

maybe

though its faster than that as well, a bit

[arctic crag]

6800m is really good value

[quick locust]

yeah

too bad theres not many laptops with it

its pretty good

between 3070 and 3080 (all laptop variants obviously, all at max power config)

[arctic crag]

What laptop was that guy talking about because am lazy to scroll up

[quick locust]

on one hand, i can get the flagship Strix G15 6800M advantage edition with 12 GB vram
OR
Acer Predator 11800H and 3060 with 6 GB VRAM

[arctic crag]

Acer is shit

I assume the cpu for the g15 is Ryzen 5800h?

Or 5900hx

[quick locust]

5900hx

[arctic crag]

Has mux switch?

[quick locust]

No idea

[arctic crag]

Missing mux switched

I googled

Also it has a dogshit ram

[quick locust]

ye

still better than the acer with 3060 and 11800H

[arctic crag]

Acer is one of the worst laptops companies ever

Wouldn’t go for it even if it was 3080

[quaint kestrel]

My friend had an acer

And it started throttling when watching youtube

600 bucks for that lmao

[wintry prairie]

[quaint kestrel]

We were roommates aswell

I once literally was like

"dude can you hear that? Someone has a really loud hair dryer somewhere"

[wintry prairie]

Oh geez

[quaint kestrel]

And then turned out it was his laptop

And i was like yikes

[wintry prairie]

Yeah, about 15 years ago I stopped using fan coolers because of the loud blowing sounds.

[quaint kestrel]

The differences are quite big on fan coolers though

I looked up the performance differences on the m1 macbooks

And its quite massive actually

The regular m1 is fanless and the m1 pro is with a fan

So to cool itself down itll reduce itd power output and blabla but yeah there was a difference

[wintry prairie]

Much different tech now, but I went with water blocks and never looked back.

[quaint kestrel]

Im sure it wont be an issue for people using it for what theyll be using it for though

[wintry prairie]

👍

[quaint kestrel]

Water blocks?

Ice cubes? Lmao

My laptop should arrive tomorrow aswell so im quite hyped on that

[wintry prairie]

Yeah, running water through block instead of using fans

[quaint kestrel]

Ah damn

I dont think many laptops have water cooling though? Or?

[wintry prairie]

Not many. But I meant computers in general.

[quaint kestrel]

Oh computers

Desktops yeah

[wintry prairie]

Yeah

[quaint kestrel]

There are quite silent fans though youd be surprised

My fans make 0 noise basically lmao

[wintry prairie]

Mine too ;)

[quaint kestrel]

And there are psus without fans and stuff like that nowadays

Fanless gpus aswell

Techs getting weird

[wintry prairie]

Yeah, but there are no fanless gpu worth getting for gaming unless it has a water block.

[quaint kestrel]

They just have clunky heatsinks

They perform aswell though

Still quite an interesting way for cooling

[wintry prairie]

I can't think of any top tier gpu that's fanless, unless it has a water block

[quaint kestrel]

Ive seen 1080s without a fan

Idk about 20 series without fans

[wintry prairie]

Could you link the 1080?

Fanless

[quaint kestrel]

Its a prototype but yes

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/64wn4p/silent_fanless_gtx_1080_phase_change_pc_build/

Its quite interesting either way

But the heatsinks are clunky

[arctic crag]

Yeah acer sucks ass

[arctic crag]

I've never seen one in my life

[quaint kestrel]

Lmao

[arctic crag]

More like fanless mode or something but no fans nah

[quaint kestrel]

@arctic crag well here you go

Fans are good nowadays and quite silent aswell

They perform aswell as watercooling aswell usually

[wintry prairie]

I was thinking actual product

[quaint kestrel]

Watercooling is imo just the overkill option for pcs

[wintry prairie]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[wintry prairie]

Not even close, tbh

[arctic crag]

You gotta sell 4 kidneys for that

[quaint kestrel]

Have you looked up performance tests?

Because the tests ive seen had barely any difference

They were also fancy top of the line fans aswell ofc

[wintry prairie]

Well, you have a point. I jumped to the temp issue, not performance.

[arctic crag]

But no fans is just a stupid idea

Like most people wear fucking headphones

[wintry prairie]

You can more easily get better performance with watercooling, but without oc yes performance should be on par.

[wintry prairie]

I wear headphones, lol

[arctic crag]

Who doesn't mate

[wintry prairie]

I thought you were saying using them is stupid

[arctic crag]

No i said 'no fans is a stupid idea' because most people wear headphones

[wintry prairie]

Oh, gotcha

Gonna make food, bbl

[quaint kestrel]

I dont even think that general gamers would find air cooling to be an issue either interms of temps

I dont think their pcs get hot enough for them to need water cooling

[arctic crag]

Air cooling is more than enough

for the standard user

[quaint kestrel]

Its imo just more of a overkill pick

[arctic crag]

yeah i saw someone water cooled his gpu using nzxt custom water cooler

he got like 50C max temps

[quaint kestrel]

I dont think gpus get that hot anyway

[arctic crag]

Yeah

If you buy a decent gpu model you won't go above 70

[quaint kestrel]

Yeah

And even if it went above 70 it still wouldnt bring any issues

[arctic crag]

up to 75c it's fine

up to 80c

[quaint kestrel]

Atleast its hard to see it bring any issues

[arctic crag]

but 75c is more safe

But Cpus are something else

[quaint kestrel]

85 is considered safe

[arctic crag]

You gotta invest some money to get a decent cooler to keep you cpu in 60s

anything under 90 is safe

[quaint kestrel]

Dangerous temps are 95-105

[arctic crag]

Cpu will shut itself down if necessary

[quaint kestrel]

But tbf i think your gpu would have to be faulty for it to let it go thay far

Yeah

That*

[arctic crag]

I'm talking about cpus not gpus rn

[quaint kestrel]

Or the programs will shut down before it comes an issue etc

Oh cpus

[arctic crag]

btw i love your name

You're 100% of the time on my burger

[quaint kestrel]

Cpus will just lower the power so they will never really go into dangerous temps

[arctic crag]

Yeah

[quaint kestrel]

Pickles on a pizza are also mad good ngl

[arctic crag]

That's why you should invest some good money and threw intel/amd stock cooler in the trash

[quaint kestrel]

Tbh i dont think there are many issues with stock coolers nowadays

Intel did have quite horrid stock coolers with old gens though yeah

[arctic crag]

I think there are for AMD at least

with zen2 and up there are

[quaint kestrel]

Idk

I havent heard of them having issues

But maybe yeah

[arctic crag]

Not really issues just high temps

like 70-80 while gaming

Also cpu cooler speed goes brrrrrrrrrrt

Like it will fly from you pc

[quaint kestrel]

Thats not bad

Id consider anything above 80 bad

[arctic crag]

80 while gaming

[quaint kestrel]

90+ would be scary to see

[arctic crag]

Imagine what will happend if you run a program

cpu demanding program

[quaint kestrel]

Idk i cant really think of background apps that use a lot of cpu

[gloomy lantern]

ide gas

[arctic crag]

Mate not a background apps

[quaint kestrel]

Why would a pc randomly open up a program anyway

[arctic crag]

what?

[quaint kestrel]

Like you mean open up a program as in open up an app?

[arctic crag]

no

[quaint kestrel]

Then those are background processes no?

[arctic crag]

working on a program

[quaint kestrel]

Working on a program while gaming?

[arctic crag]

Noooooooooooooooooooo

my god

[quaint kestrel]

Lmao what

[prime jasper]

are you able to sell tech in this channel @woeful crater

[molten coral]

No

[quaint kestrel]

As in it downloading something?

Because pcs have it enabled on so that if youre playing it cancels out installations/downloads usually

You can disable it aswell but from factory its set on that usually

[plucky wind]

A pickle and a nacho 😲

Weird combo

[quaint kestrel]

Or well force stops downloads

[arctic crag]

Let's say you're working on Maxwell Render

[quaint kestrel]

While gaming?

[arctic crag]

no

[quaint kestrel]

Oh

[arctic crag]

Just

[quaint kestrel]

You said while gaming thats why i was confused

[arctic crag]

no

[quaint kestrel]

Idk anything about rendering so i cant comment on the issues it can bring

[arctic crag]

I said if you get 80c while gaming

How much will you get while working on a program

[quaint kestrel]

Oh

That makes more sense

[arctic crag]

Like something like Maxwell Render use 100% of the cpu

so gaming doesn't stress cpu like a program

[quaint kestrel]

Idk how many people work with rendering usually on pcs but yeah that could be an issue for them

[arctic crag]

So it's expected to get 95c+'

[quaint kestrel]

Fair fair

[arctic crag]

So long story short throw the stock cooler in the trash

[quaint kestrel]

I dont think those types of cpus were meant for that anyway though

I know that intel makes like

More gaming specific cpus and then more like whatever else type cpus

Like if we were consider what its marketed for then its fine

But yeah unless it was some rendering specific cpu then its quite horrible

I just know that there are some cpus better for other types of usages

[quartz vault]

Hello , can i play bf 2042 on ps4 with mouse and keyboard , in open beta

?

[molten coral]

Nobody knows

[short pier]

dabg

[vivid elm]

Has anyone else had this issue? When I play Battlefield 1 and 5 (don't know if it happens with others) it will start to cause problems to my internet like when I'm using discord it will keep restarting.

[midnight crypt]

Google.com

[vivid elm]

can't find anything on it

[midnight crypt]

You suck balls at googling

[proud trellis]

[vivid elm]

way to be helpful

[midnight crypt]

Yep

Youre welcome

[prime jasper]

Alr bf5 sucks it can't run well on my pc benchmarks online similar or worse specs get 100+ fps low 😡🤬😡🤬😡

Boita uninstall this mf game

[digital hill]

Ever heard of an express card sound card

[wintry prairie]

Yes

[wintry prairie]

I have not experienced this.

[prime jasper]

Anyone know what requirtment 2042 will need

Like pc parts etc

[midnight crypt]

Nope

[wintry prairie]

MB/cpu/gpu/RAM/etc

[solar kestrel]

so your saying i will need a gpu

fuck that

[wintry prairie]

I know, these requirements are rediculous

[lusty star]

Dude these numbers make 6800m so promising xD

like the 6800m can actually get 1080p60 Ultra on a game like cyberpunk 2077

[wintry prairie]

LUL, you've posted this like 6 times in different channels.

Yes, its a good chip.

[marsh gull]

!specs

[wintry prairie]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for the full release of Battlefield 2042.

[shy garden]

any kind of technology talk is allowed here?

[dry pike]

Most tech talk

As long as the server rules are followed

[marsh gull]

naa man not in the technology section

[steep bear]

my laptop made a weird bubbling noise while not being water cooled

should I be concerned?

[dry pike]

I would be curious for sure

[serene dragon]

isn't the rtx 3060 laptop one enabled ray tracing?

[lusty star]

The rt on one's are specified

[naive cargo]

battlefield 4, not starting but showing it is playing

[vast crag]

Hello
I recently installed BF V and as soon as i launch it it takes me back to Origin
I tracked it in taskmanager and i noticed it takes up to 228 MB of RAM and then it just dies

[supple bane]

!!support

[silent oasis]

ℹ️ Have an issue with Battlefield or your EA/Origin account? Contact EA Help:
If you need to contact the EA Help team for questions you might have regarding game or account issues, head over to https://help.ea.com

ℹ️ Have thoughts to share regarding Battlefield? Submit your feedback:
If you want to help the Battlefield team with constructive feedback to make the title/franchise even better, head over to https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield/ct-p/battlefield

ℹ️ Have you encountered a bug? Report it:
If you have previously unknown technical issues you'd like to highlight, head over to https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/i/m-p/7141703

ℹ️ Have an issue related to the Official Battlefield Discord server? Let us know:
If you need help related to this Discord server you can send a Direct Message (DM) to our ModMail bot! Please know that we can not help you with any game or account issues!

[midnight crypt]

This is clearly the tech support channel

[flat linden]

Hey, it's the same for me

I found out that connecting it via my mobile wifi doesn't cause any problems

but my wifi adapter does

[proud trellis]

well its not look at the top of the channel "⚠️ This channel is not for tech support."

[midnight crypt]

I see you couldnt spot the most obvious sarcasm ever

[proud trellis]

no i couldnt

[midnight crypt]

F

[proud trellis]

ok

[supple bane]

!!icons

!!warningicons

[silent oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/591426310317015072/592201789403693096/syvzV.png

[flat linden]

damn i get all of them except the pc ones

[earnest sapphire]

lmao

[arctic crag]

I get at least one of those every round lol

My internet is super

[wintry prairie]

Same

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[atomic jackal]

i got low fps warning at 120 fps?

wtf

by the way

how much FPS should i be getting with an RTX 3060 under normal conditions on lets say BF 1 ?

[plucky token]

I hope you know that zeppelin is a bot

[eager whale]

I get it at 165fps

[atomic jackal]

lmaooo

[atomic jackal]

i do

[plucky token]

Since i dont own a 3060 or play bf1, i cant give you an answer

[supple bane]

Just put in ryzen 5 3600 rtx 3060 bf1

Into youtube

Bam

[plucky token]

Changoo rad

[supple bane]

Im GoNnA Do It On MoNdAy

[plucky token]

1 fan is missing and 2 fittings

[supple bane]

Immmm kidddinnngggg

[proud trellis]

could u not put the exhaust fan on there for now or would that be pointless in a way

[plucky token]

The wouldnt be a problem, but the fittings are

And those arrive in thursday

[supple bane]

Long time without a pc

[plucky token]

Its fine

I can bend the tubes, do cables etc

[proud trellis]

if i didnt have my pc for like a day i would be soooooo bored

[plucky token]

Got my tablet to read so. Iam fine

[proud trellis]

ig i could go on my phone....but thats boring after like an hour

[wintry prairie]

My fittings have arrived 🙂

[molten coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imYBTj2RXFs

Interesting video @storm osprey @supple bane 👀

[wintry prairie]

I saw something similar the other day

[wraith sky]

Those look nice 😃

[marsh gull]

ultra 1080p 140-200 fps in multiplayer

1440 ultra 144 fps average

4k ultra 60-144 fps average

[atomic jackal]

i get around 130 tho

[marsh gull]

yeah sry that was more for the 3060 ti

[atomic jackal]

mine is non ti

[storm osprey]

I’ve been meaning to go to 1600 dpi since I saw this but keep forgetting. Plus I’m gaming in the front room lately.

[molten bramble]

I used to run 800-1600DPI and low sens on everything. I've switched up to high sens, low DPI (400-600 range depending on the game)

[storm osprey]

My problem is that games seem to run out of sensitivity values when I run high dpi if I’m trying to calibrate it to what I’m used to.

[marsh gull]

yeah

[pulsar turret]

Is anyone willing to help me with a technical issue? I cant get my game to launch no matter what i do. I can provide more details if needed

please ping if responding

[midnight crypt]

Google.com is a good tool

[pulsar turret]

looked all over, this is my last resort

[midnight crypt]

Youre doomed then

[proud trellis]

well hes not

maybe someone here will know

[midnight crypt]

Who has the knowledge from google

[proud trellis]

google cant fix everything

[midnight crypt]

It can if you try hard enough

[proud trellis]

epic

[midnight crypt]

Ye

[atomic jackal]

man 600 is way too slow

it atleast has to be 1200 for me

i use high sens 1200 dpi

[wintry prairie]

Post your specs and any pertinent info and maybe we can help.

[pulsar turret]

Thank you so much for responding but i literally JUST figured it out lmaoo

I had to use stupid frosty mod manager and frosty fix and run ea desktop with mods enabled

This was soooo dumb

I dont even have any mods 😂

[wintry prairie]

It can be a pain sometimes. Glad you figured it out, have fun!

[rain void]

I'm looking to get a new graphic card here is my pc specs
MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC
G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory
Amd Ryzen 5 2600
PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2 GB Devil Video Card
Corsair TX 750 W 80+

What graphics card should I get?

[latent light]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/razer-bug-lets-you-become-a-windows-10-admin-by-plugging-in-a-mouse/

[proud trellis]

[digital hill]

[drowsy night]

wow i would like to have a pc

[cloud solar]

rtx 3070 or rx6700 xt

[latent light]

At 1080p the Ryzen 5 2600 will bottleneck a RTX 2060 in some cases lol

It will bottleneck a RTX 3070 at 1080p and even 1440p

[cloud solar]

yeah but those cards give em room to upgrade the cpu quite a bit before needing a gpu upgrade

the 2600 is still a fairly competent cpu

[latent light]

Can't hit 144 fps with it in BFV tho

[cloud solar]

doesnt matter bc who plays bfv

if hes only going for 60, which i assume he is judging on his current set up

both of those would be good options for his current cpu and his future upgraded one

[latent light]

From how I see it
Zen+ is most suitable for 90-120Hz range

Zen2 for 120-144Hz

Zen3 for 165Hz

[cloud solar]

if i were him id go for a new cpu as well

also you dont need a ridiculous cpu to do high refresh rates

i can play halo, splitgate, bf4 and a bunch of other games capped at 165 in 1440p

on an i5 7640x

needless to say his cpu can do 165hz with no issues lmao

[quaint kestrel]

you should give your budget aswell

people could just pick the most expensive gpus that are cool and all but if it doesnt go by your budget then its hard to recommend them lmao

and keep in mind that gpu prices are very high at the moment

[lusty star]

I'm baffled by the actions of tsmc

The mofos can't supply enough 7nm chips
And they're working in 2/3/5 nm fabrications

Global Chip Shortage is yet another crisis going down in the history

[next ginkgo]

Me no comprehension big brain stuff

I forgotten what I was going to ask

[arctic crag]

Don’t go above 3060 ti

Or 3060

[supple bane]

3060ti would be a good pairing yes

I cant see a 3070 being a good idea though

[arctic crag]

There is a bottleneck with the 3060 ti at 1080p

But yeah still good because you can upgrade your cpu later

[lusty star]

Just get any appropriately priced 3060 or above gpu, and it'll work like a charm

considering the global chip shortage, consider yourself extremely lucky if any gpu is even AVAILABLE

[tender socket]

hi

well my brother wants to buy a pc (accessible in Argentina) well I want to put an i5 9600k and a 1050 ti, 16 ram, he only plays fortnite and he doesn't mind having everything to a minimum. Is a computer like this okay or a 1650 for 10k pesos more?

[plucky token]

1050ti is fine. Cpu is even overkill in terms of saving

[supple bane]

that cpu is way too overkill for a 1050ti

its a cpu suited for a 1080ti..

[plucky token]

Btw granty. The pc could be turned on if the fitting would be here

[supple bane]

gaff tape.

[plucky token]

Haha

[pastel sandal]

Just wondering ryzen 3800x with a 3090 and 64gb of good ram any thoughts

?

[quick locust]

yes obviously

just overkill with the ram unless you need it for something specific

I'd get 5th gen ryzen instead of 64 GB ram

[pastel sandal]

I play DCS and it has some memory leak issues they haven't fixed for the past couple years lol that's why 64 go

Gb

I stream and also playing my pc uses up 31 gbs of ram

[quick locust]

ah

[opaque saddle]

@pastel sandal have you tried repairing your windows 10 system with entering the “repair windows” command in the terminal? That has fixed the memory leak issues on my last Intel machine.

[pastel sandal]

I'll will try when I get a chance thank you

[supple bane]

oh yeah guys is basically the fastest pc possible good?

[pastel sandal]

Si

[supple bane]

im seeing a lot of rumours that rtx 4000 will be a similar jump in performance from rtx 3000 as gtx 1000 was from gtx 900

which is good news for me as im planning on a new pc when it launches

[pastel sandal]

I might as well wait for a gpu then

[supple bane]

i mean there is still over a year at least to go lol

[pastel sandal]

I have a 1070 zotac Amp extreme edition

I have boot camp next year so by the time I get out it will be launched 😁😁

[supple bane]

based on the past releases it will be the end of 2022, but if the shortages arent better by then then we may not see it until 2023

[pastel sandal]

True true

But now we can just pre order the pre built pc and then get a wait time of 30 to 90 days better then paying overpriced gpu and don't have to wait a year

😅

[proud trellis]

fuck prebuilts

[supple bane]

thats the spirit!

[proud trellis]

when do you think i should get a new pc ?

[supple bane]

when you want to.

well within reason.

[pastel sandal]

I'm just saying

An option

[supple bane]

when you feel that you arent getting performance that you would like, then its time for an upgrade

[proud trellis]

idk if its worth upgrading when 4000 series comes out

[pastel sandal]

What do you have?

[proud trellis]

a i5 9400f with a 1660super

16gb ram

[pastel sandal]

Not bad what about storage and what games do you play ?

[proud trellis]

for storage i have a 240GB ssd for windows and then i have a 1TB SSD for my games and then 2TB HDD for vids and random shit

games i play rn are BF, tarkov, rust and thats about it for the time being

im mainly waiting for newer games to come out such as FC6, new BF etc

[opaque saddle]

I heard the high end Nvidia GPU are always 26-30% faster than their last Gen

[supple bane]

i still dont have any games that i cant play up to my standards with my specs so im good with what i have for a while.

[toxic wigeon]

An apu is like intergrated graphics isnt it

[supple bane]

thats exactly what it is.

[toxic wigeon]

Perfect

Wont have to spent 500 dollars for a gpu just to work my comp

[supple bane]

an apu contains a cpu and an integrated graphics chip

[opaque saddle]

That’s AMD

[supple bane]

an apu is the name for the combo of the two

is it?

[toxic wigeon]

Artificial? No

[midnight crypt]

thats the name for AMD

[toxic wigeon]

Accelerated

[midnight crypt]

intels solution is the same though

[supple bane]

i assume intel has a different name but it means the same thing though right?

[opaque saddle]

APU is a product name for AMD processor with AMD integrated graphics inside the single package

[midnight crypt]

ye

[supple bane]

what cpu are you planning on getting then?

because not all cpus have integrated graphics, you know that right?

[opaque saddle]

Haven’t heard of intel with their lineup since we called it as an intel processor anyway

I have tried one of the earliest intel integrated graphics on the MacBook 2008? 2009

[toxic wigeon]

Im aware

Im looking at a 5800x

[opaque saddle]

The GMA graphics isn’t great

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah i know dont go for it. Thing is, its cheaper than buying a second hand GPU

[opaque saddle]

But at least it works

[toxic wigeon]

It will work for me for a while

[opaque saddle]

You should be getting intel at that price range…

[supple bane]

that doesnt have an integrated graphics

wrong reply

[toxic wigeon]

Im looking at one that does

Oh

Haha

[opaque saddle]

Don’t get 3200g or 3400g, that’s all

[supple bane]

amd doesnt have an apu that is high performance

all its apu's are budget stuff

they are good value. but nothing compared to a 5800x

[opaque saddle]

The 4750G is fine but I wouldn’t use it to game other than BF1 at 1080p

[toxic wigeon]

Its gonna work for me until i can get my hands on a 3070ti

[supple bane]

i mean the cpu part also.

[toxic wigeon]

Thats pretty much how im handling it

[latent light]

980Ti was 50% faster than 780Ti
1080Ti was 60% faster than 980Ti
2080Ti was 30% faster than 1080Ti

[opaque saddle]

Do not get those parts from JB or HN

[supple bane]

if you want an igpu to just see you through then go with intel.

i7 10700. it has an igpu and is also a decent cpu.

[latent light]

Ryzen 5600G is the best value APU if you wanna do light gaming

[supple bane]

if you wanted an igpu from amd the best you could do is the 5600g

[toxic wigeon]

I decided to go for a 5800 cause it fits into my budget anyways

[supple bane]

its a solid cpu.

[toxic wigeon]

Its a big upgrade from a 2012 cpu lmao

[supple bane]

but you will need to wait for your gpu. as i said it doesnt have an igpu

[opaque saddle]

Was referring to this one https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9cR14FFzZ4M&vl=en

[toxic wigeon]

Oh no i got the numbers messed up!

Its a 5700g wtf

[supple bane]

ngl i didnt know that existed

[toxic wigeon]

Nor did i

[opaque saddle]

Sounds like a prebuilt desktop

[supple bane]

you can buy them diy

[latent light]

Demand for APUs is gonna skyrocket when RDNA2 graphics is on desktop Ryzen

[opaque saddle]

Not everyone can purchase the highest tier of the high end gpu unfortunately. But generally speaking, it has at least 25% performance boost over the years.

[toxic wigeon]

Ohhhh and u is for laptops

[supple bane]

well after some digging it seems to be highly regarded. its about 5% slower than the 5800x in benchmarks but is also cheaper.

so yeah, id say its a good choice for getting a pc running without a gpu.

[toxic wigeon]

Its better for me as a wait for the gpu anyways

Yeah!

Obviously i cant play anything big but

If i can discord and youtube, im happy.

[supple bane]

you could do more than that.

[latent light]

Steam Deck only has 8 CU of RDNA2 graphics clocked extremely low for the architecture at 1600 MHz, it is able to run every single existing game at 30 fps minimum
Now picture Ryzen 6000 APU with 12CU of RDNA2 at over 2500 MHz...

[toxic wigeon]

My biggest concern is fitting the big boy 3070ti in tho

How?

[opaque saddle]

Get a larger case

[supple bane]

minecraft ez. valorant? csgo. even bfv at 720p

[toxic wigeon]

What

Surely it isn't that powerful, Right?

[supple bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Hr7_efpY0

[opaque saddle]

Give up if you are going on the 1440p 144hz monitor

[toxic wigeon]

I'm looking at a Deepcool matrexx mid tower case cause it has four fans

More fans good

Vwoooooom

[lusty star]

Eh

no

[supple bane]

you can just buy more fans lol.

[toxic wigeon]

LET ME DREAM!

[lusty star]

if you can mantain positive airflow
increasing the number of fans wont help

[supple bane]

just cuz a case comes with 4 fans. you could get a case that comes with 1 fan and then buy 8

[opaque saddle]

Ah deep cool

[toxic wigeon]

That is true

[opaque saddle]

I have one of their case and I bought it from PCCG

[toxic wigeon]

I reckon i have pretty ok airflow

[lusty star]

best way to design you cooling
TOP 240mm radiator + 2 fans
One Rear Fan
2 Front Fan

best cooling configuration

[toxic wigeon]

Is there a website that allows you to build pcs and show a 3d graphic of it?

[opaque saddle]

You mean…

[lusty star]

all the hot air is gonna be exhausted through the rear fan

[opaque saddle]

That game

[supple bane]

pc building simulator is the closest thing to that.

i own it. it works but doesnt have every component.

i can build my pc to the T basically.

[opaque saddle]

We were playing it simultaneously

[supple bane]

i was there.

[toxic wigeon]

I shouldn't be too stressed. I should be fine really.

[supple bane]

we did who could get the highest score in 3dmark lol. that was a lot of fun actually

[lusty star]

well im looking forward to buying a Strix G15 Advantage Edition

[supple bane]

or maybe multiple people played at once on different occasions

[lusty star]

5900HX and 6800M

only concern i have is the driver support

[toxic wigeon]

Are gigabyte power supplies alright? I've heard some rumours they explode

[opaque saddle]

Don’t get it

I’m using seasonic

[supple bane]

all but one model are fine. but after what has happened i couldnt recommend a gigabyte powersupply

[toxic wigeon]

Fair enough

[lusty star]

i dont plan to do anything TOO professional
although i do plan to do some game projects on Unreal Engine
some photoshop as well as some Blender related projects

[opaque saddle]

Others may recommend antec

From my perspective, it is better and cheaper to get PSU from the manufacturer brands

[lusty star]

is the 6800M good compared to 3060? Since their pricing is quite close for me
and 3070 variant which is as much as the 6800m model, has been out of stock for like 2 months

[opaque saddle]

What I was referring is, the manufacturers makes PSU for their own brands.

Not all laptop variants of 3060 and 3070 are made the same… the wattage matters

A 3060 running with full power can be faster than a 3070 running with the power limit

[lusty star]

the 3060 is 130W variant

strix models have their 3060 and 3070 tgp as 115+15

@opaque saddle

[opaque saddle]

Depends on whether you wanna spend that much for a laptop

I mean it is always be good if you can opt for the more expensive model if you can afford it, and the laptop allows to run it without an throttling

[lusty star]

well i need to get a laptop
since desktop is not gonna work out for me

[quick locust]

sup

their drivers for rdna2 is decent

[opaque saddle]

I’m not an expert of laptop performance since the manufacturers have got all those dodgy stuff running

[latent light]

AMD has fastest mobile GPU iirc

[lusty star]

like my possible options are
3060(115+15) + 11800H 1730 $ Acer Predator (In Stock)
3060(115+15) + 5800H 1630 $ ROG Strix (OOS)
3060(115+15) + 5900HX 1930 $ ROG Strix (OOS)
3070(115+15) + 5800H 2050 $ ROG Strix (OOS)
3070(105+5) + 10870H 2050 $ Acer Predator (OOS)
6800M(110-165) + 5900HX 2050 $ ROG Strix (In Stock)

[opaque saddle]

Like swapping the memory to dual rank will be faster than some laptop which has single rank preinstalled

[lusty star]

As of now... the competition is between 3060 +11800H and 6800M + 5900HX

[quick locust]

the 6800M is better than any of the 3060 laptops

except for RT

it's closer to 3080 than 3070

Heard the ram sucks in that laptop but that's the cheapest part

[lusty star]

yea there is a 15-20% performance loss
the stock variant ram is just 1R+16

[latent light]

When choosing a laptop, I look for things like cooling capacity, screen, or build quality, not the hardware specs

[opaque saddle]

Much preferred to get an AMD processor with Nvidia GPU, but it isn’t a bargain

[lusty star]

I can literally see a 25% improvement to my FPS (almost like going from 3060 to 3070) for plugging in an external monitor and using 1R+8 RAM

[latent light]

Don't get a laptop that runs hot and makes you lose performance

[opaque saddle]

There are a lot of things to consider in 2021

[lusty star]

Buddy, all these are Strix laptops xD

[latent light]

Doesn't mean its good

[lusty star]

they literally use liquid metal on their cpus
although the amd advantage edtion comes with liquid metal on cpu and gpu as well

[latent light]

I've seen Strix hardware be completely junk before

[opaque saddle]

Like 3060 can potentially be faster than 3070. Single ch vs dual ch memory, single rank vs dual rank

[lusty star]

2R+8>1R+8>1R+16 right?

[opaque saddle]

Will that laptop run as expected, laptop parts

I thought it is good if you can get 16 GB ram in total (preinstalled), TWO of the 8GB dual rank memory running at dual ch

[lusty star]

yea the 6800M comes with 2 ram sticks in dual channel which are 1R+16 sadly

so slower sub timings

the 6800M is clearly held back by that

[opaque saddle]

You will need to swap out that ram to get 10-20% performance of out the box

[lusty star]

yea, that's why i said

if 16 GB doesn't seem enough or im not able to get 1080p60 in graphically demanding SPs
ill do the upgrade

to 32GB dual channel and 1R+8

[opaque saddle]

What’s the screen specs

You don’t usually use more than 16gb in gaming

[lusty star]

15.6 inch IPS-Level
99% sRGB, 72 % NTSC
300Hz @ 1080p
165Hz @ 1440p
340 Nits peak brightness

5-7 ms GTG

[opaque saddle]

But if you think you considered that machine as your main computer, think of extended warranty

[lusty star]

yea, gonna get that one

[opaque saddle]

Others will judge why would you wanna get it, coz they may not owned a laptop at all

[lusty star]

I need to be mobile with my laptop

[opaque saddle]

Coz laptops aren’t really good for gaming for a really long period of time

So the motherboard will bend overtime

[lusty star]

and this guy can give me 9H of battery backup if i just watch youtube or read PDFs

[opaque saddle]

Even with ASUS laptops, they can be bent very easily

[lusty star]

ive never seen that personally

[opaque saddle]

Switch off SMT(or HT) and turbo boost can give you another few hours

[lusty star]

like i had an old HP notebook, no flex at all (although i had to change the hinge once but it was under warranty)

[opaque saddle]

My MacBook Pro early 2019 can last for max 15 hours of use. Not the M1 model, but I have switched off HT and TB

I mean the motherboard itself may bend coz of the heat

[lusty star]

well 9H backup from a gaming laptop with desktop 3060 like performance is amazing

i think it beats a 3060 Ti as well
not sure

it definitely beats a 3060

6800M is basically 5% slower than 6700XT

[opaque saddle]

I suggested not to spend too much on a laptop

[lusty star]

Well i dont have any choice

[opaque saddle]

I mean, to sell the RAM stick

[latent light]

6800M and 6700XT are exact same chip

[lusty star]

yea

i will be using my laptop for at most 4 years after which im gonna build a pc

[opaque saddle]

It is a pain to choose a laptop in 2021

[lusty star]

possibly with DDR5, successor to Zen 4 and 5000 or 6000 series GPU from nvidia

unless they drop the bi annual cycle

[latent light]

Ryzen 6000 'Rembrandt' APU graphics not too far behind the Xbox Series S in performance, although will need a good DDR5 kit (much higher than 4800 MHz)

[lusty star]

if AMD is really going 5 nm, intel is gonna be in trouble

[opaque saddle]

I don’t think any of us can actually give you the advices to choose which laptop you should purchase

[atomic jackal]

honestly for me if im not moving around every day

its gonna be a tower

[midnight crypt]

they dont measure nm equally

[latent light]

AMD is gonna have both 5nm and 6nm on next-gen RDNA3

[midnight crypt]

so it doesnt matter

[latent light]

5nm for high-end and 6nm for budget

[lusty star]

well just give me a short answer
even with the stock ram and all, the 6800m is going to be better than 3060 laptop right?

since 3060 mobile is my only nvidia alternative atm

there's NO 3070 mobile laptops left IN stock anymore

[opaque saddle]

Personally I’m not really a big fan of AMD gpu drivers and their product QC.

[cedar peak]

any1 have a 3090 willing to pay any price.

[lusty star]

Neither am i
but i gotta pull the trigger before 28th

[opaque saddle]

I think you may have to get a 6800m coz it should cost less

[lusty star]

3000 series laptops are not getting restocked before October
considering the current trend

[opaque saddle]

But as I said, I’m not an expert picking a laptop

[lusty star]

and this 6800M might also go Out Of Stock within a week or two

[cedar peak]

oh you want a gaming laptop?

[opaque saddle]

Coz as I said there is a lot of things to consider so I’m unable to give you an advice which laptop you should go for

[latent light]

RX 6600 is gonna be marginally slower than the 6600XT, should be priced around $300-330 msrp

[opaque saddle]

But for specs wise, maybe

[latent light]

Only difference between them is 4 less CU

[lusty star]

yea, please read my previous messages for a rough idea

not too far away

[cedar peak]

oh alright.

[latent light]

https://www.pcgamer.com/its-looking-likely-that-amd-will-introduce-onboard-graphics-with-zen-4-ryzen-cpus/

All Zen 4 CPUs will have on-board graphics apparently

[lusty star]

Well the global chip shortage is no way get better even by Q1 2022
its probably gonna be as long as Q3 2022

yikes to anyone who wants a 3000 series desktop card

[storm osprey]

https://youtu.be/PHp1yrjlMz0

ive looks up putting a little fan at the back of the case below the gpu, but as exhaust, now im wanting one for intake

[opaque saddle]

At least I’m happy that I got a 2070S

people thought the 2000 series owners got ripped off

[storm osprey]

i think in terms of performance jump per generation it was one of the worst

[opaque saddle]

True or they can wait for a really long time for an upgrade and wouldn’t be able to do so even today

It is a low mid tier GPU driving a 1440p 144hz display

[atomic jackal]

why are desktop front usbs so shitty?

it didnt detect my headphones npw

[storm osprey]

not a lot of people really use those

[atomic jackal]

i plugged it to the back

it works now

[storm osprey]

i would use back anyway, less chance of interference

[atomic jackal]

yeah makes static noise on the front

[opaque saddle]

I think it lacks of power tbh…

May not be able to run more than 1 HDD via the multiple 3.0 slots

[ember bolt]

yeah, I got one last year june (upgraded from gtx 770), was a good decision

[opaque saddle]

Not necessarily the best option that we have. But I didn’t and consider the timing, I might needed to use my 960 for a while before I can purchase a 3000 series at the end of the cycle

[atomic jackal]

so what is the equivalent of a 3060 in the 2000 series?

the 2070S?

[opaque saddle]

Slightly underpowered 2070s

[arctic crag]

A bit slower than 2070s

[supple bane]

its slower than the 2070.

never mind the 2070 super

ok its exactly the same performance as a 2070

[atomic jackal]

i mean the 3060 was the cheapest i could find

2070 super goes for like 950 dollars

i bought mine for 550 dollars

[opaque saddle]

I bought mine for 783AUD or 564USD, the gigabyte 3x model

I think the 2080 at that time was selling at 750AUD

OOS unfortunately

[supple bane]

Yeah thats now when its discontinued in a gpu shortage lol. Its msrp is like 400 bucks

500 bucks even

[atomic jackal]

my country just puts crazy tax rates on everything

even when there isnt a shortage

[plucky token]

@supple bane first try

[supple bane]

hey thats not bad.

i can see a few kinks. but with the side panel on they wont be noticeable

well done sir

[plucky token]

On the left ye

Bend it to late

Has to reheat it and bend it a 1cm infront. Worked out

[supple bane]

that rad is so dummy thicc

ive never seen one that thicc

[plucky token]

54mm thicc

[quick locust]

nice

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-zen4-ryzen-cpus-confirmed-to-offer-integrated-graphics#disqus_thread

Confirmed that Zen4 CPUs will have on-board graphics

For the first time ever

[quick locust]

good that they finally get rid of vega on them

[latent light]

Mainstream CPUs will have graphics but possibly not all SKUs

I imagine there be variants with graphics disabled like how Intel does

[quick locust]

yes cheaper that way

[latent light]

Ryzen 9 and 7 family will offer more graphics cores than the Ryzen 5 and 3 families

[quick locust]

since more yield

(though F cpus don't tend to be much cheaper than normal except to OEMs)

[latent light]

Yeah like $10-20

[wintry prairie]

Nice!

[foggy surge]

Ummm nope I don't speak tec byyy 😜

[supple bane]

[storm osprey]

ok thanks for dropping by

[solar kestrel]

[wintry prairie]

👋

[storm osprey]

nice

[solar kestrel]

[supple bane]

Ill be claiming that right up!

[solar kestrel]

seems like a scam

[supple bane]

Really?

[storm osprey]

idk

[solar kestrel]

idk

jsut doesnt seem

[supple bane]

I think it looks pretty legit

[solar kestrel]

legit Ljappa

i dont see anywhere on steam that it is

[gloomy lantern]

yeah it sure looks

[storm osprey]

if you look close enough you can see they spelled the d in discord with a c and an l

[gloomy lantern]

100% legit

[solar kestrel]

plus it just got deleted buy a mod

[supple bane]

cliscord

[gloomy lantern]

dude ofc its a scam

[storm osprey]

other way granty

[supple bane]

Discorcl ?

[storm osprey]

discorcl

[supple bane]

I forgot how to spell discord for a second there

[solar kestrel]

now steam has to release a 3 month free discord

[storm osprey]

i want seafood

[solar kestrel]

i want a 3060 to fall out of the sky

[near rune]

its a phishing scam

[solar kestrel]

not everything happens how you wish

[near rune]

they take your discord account or steam

and spread it even more

[uneven tulip]

yoo my dad said I can get an iphone which one should I get

[cloud solar]

an android

but if you have to have an iphone

get the 12 pro or wait for the next one

[uneven tulip]

I would get that but my dad said I have to get an iphone idk why

[uneven tulip]

k

[cloud solar]

probably so he can track you or smth like a weirdo

[uneven tulip]

nah he said because he wants a different system in the house idek

because everyone is using android in the house

[cloud solar]

i just think that if youre dropping 1000-1300$ on a phone

it should not be on an iphone

the camera sucks compared to modern samsungs, the display is only 60hz, its not even full 1440p on the screen

its weak, it has limited customization

just not as good for the price

[uneven tulip]

I see

[cloud solar]

i can vouch for all of this bc i have one lol

[uneven tulip]

which one

do you have

[cloud solar]

12 pro

[gloomy lantern]

deste Daddysusissos

[uneven tulip]

ngl the phones look clean as hell though

[cloud solar]

they are

i will admit

theyre really nice looking

if youre ok with getting a base model the regular 12 isnt too terribly priced

it also has lots of color options

where the pros only have like 2 options lol

[uneven tulip]

ok

thanks

[cloud solar]

also @uneven tulip

[uneven tulip]

yes?

[cloud solar]

make sure that the one you get has enough storage

these things dont support sd cards

[uneven tulip]

is 128 good

[cloud solar]

should be enough

[uneven tulip]

ok

[gloomy lantern]

no

[cloud solar]

what you get with the phone is all you can have so make the right decision lol

[gloomy lantern]

6969

[cloud solar]

terrabyte storage is too advanced for apple

it has to be years old for them to adopt it lmao

@uneven tulip youll also have to buy the plug separately if you get the 12

they stopped putting them in the boxes lol

same with the earbuds

[uneven tulip]

"eco friendly"

[cloud solar]

the funny thing is that they say its eco friendly but they actually use more packaging and materials selling it separately

lol

[quaint lichen]

Lol I saw a article titled

how to make a gaming pc for 1000 usd

I check out the parts on Amazon it’s 1700

[uneven tulip]

iNfLaTiOn

[quaint lichen]

shush the article was from july

I didn’t know inflation was that bad lmao

[uneven tulip]

it isn't

[cloud solar]

its not inflation its just companies marking up the price because they can

[uneven tulip]

amazon got an amazing offer

instead of 1,000 for a ps5 it's now 900

[latent light]

https://chipsandcheese.com/2021/08/23/details-on-the-gigabyte-leak/

All leaked info on Zen 4, Epyc Genoa and AM5 socket

Big changes to cache and IO

[quick locust]

Gigabyte again

[latent light]

Doubled L2 cache

Finally they put focus on something that isn't L3

Big changes to I/O

[quick locust]

Uh, guess there's a bug with hwinfo or some driver

Keeps showing my cpu as using 100-110W all the time, even when idle

and VRM info just says 21W out

[arctic crag]

Brainless idiots everywhere don’t mind them

[wintry prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

[arctic crag]

Classic

[molten bramble]

True story.

[wraith sky]

If you don't like the color of your case fans, can you pain them?

[wintry prairie]

LOL, YES, and perfect timing as I am getting some of my fans ready to paint.

[dry pike]

Painting fans. Seem like a recipe for disaster :D

[wintry prairie]

😄

Not really though

It's pretty awesome

[lusty star]

Can i use an external hard disk as a game drive on PC?

i've never done that

its USB 3 obviously

my laptop is gonna have a 1 TB NVMe SSD and a M.2 slot so upgrades are gonna be expensive, although i do have a 500 GB EHDD which i use for my console
(But plan on using it for my PC)

[plucky token]

Crucial m2 ssd.. 1tb for 70-90€

And no. I would not recommend using an external hdd with usb3 to run games. It may be possible, but slow

[wraith sky]

Has anyone used any external NVME drive enclosure, and would you recommend it?

[wintry prairie]

I use this one, and I like it , quite a bit.

ASUS ROG Strix Arion Lite External Portable M.2

[wraith sky]

Thank you @wintry prairie! It's nice when someone can recommend something they have actually used.

[crystal salmon]

guys is it good to reach 80 celcius GPU temp at 70% fan speed?

[wintry prairie]

https://www.cputemper.com/ideal-gpu-temperature-range/

[strong breach]

I'm surprised how recent that article was

taken granted that there's not even 20series GPUs listed in the chart

[wintry prairie]

Hmmm, I just noticed that, good catch. Newer GPU are easier to cool, and now we need to look more at VRAM temps, but this article should have 20/30 series listed.

[quick locust]

Yeah

Meanwhile Dell GPUs with nothing on vram

Some MSI as well

[crystal salmon]

thanks mate

i just wonder what is optimal fan curve settings

[wintry prairie]

Anytime, good luck and have fun!

[quick locust]

Whatever your preference of noise/thermal balance is

[crystal salmon]

my stock setting is only 50% fan speed at 70 celcius

just experimenting a bit

[wintry prairie]

Good luck! I don't use fans on my GPUs anymore, so I wouldn't know.

[arctic crag]

Let me guess 120gb for 150$

[quick locust]

https://youtu.be/E61MIV5muHA

6700M and ryzen 5900HX

Not many rdna2 laptops yet

[wintry prairie]

Its just the enclosure, you put the drive you want.

[plucky token]

Meh. Those bends are not perfect. But they work

4 bends in 1 tube is hard...

[wintry prairie]

Nice job!

[supple bane]

is that second tube diagonal ?

[wraith sky]

Nice!

[kindred nexus]

I’d just buy a prebuily PC

[wintry prairie]

I prefer to build.

[plucky token]

Ye

It goes over and beside the long tube

[wintry prairie]

What pump is that?

[plucky token]

EK Quantum Kinetic TBE300 D5 Pwm DRGB Acetal