technology

[wraith sky]

Nice

[storm osprey]

Nice

[arctic crag]

.

[wintry prairie]

@deep sparrow

[quick locust]

XeSS is gpu accelerated

like DLSS

you don't need intel cpu for it

but you might need intel gpu

[raw turtle]

Will need an intel gpu

Their special AI powers it

[wintry prairie]

XeSS/DLSS/FSR

[quick locust]

FSR

but yeah

[raw turtle]

I now hate that there is 3 different upscaling softwares

[quick locust]

might need intel gpu only

[raw turtle]

And I just clicked that this is gonna be bad

[quick locust]

fsr is only one that works on all 3

but it might be worse than the other 2

[raw turtle]

Developers will have to decide which to develop for

[quick locust]

you can render all games in fsr in proton iirc

[wintry prairie]

2042 will have DLSS

[raw turtle]

Proton?

[quick locust]

yeah

dxvk/vkd3d

[cloud solar]

intel will find a way to lock it to their cpus im sure

[raw turtle]

Yep, envideo would kill them if they didn’t

[quick locust]

hope games will work with all 3

[quick locust]

Nah I doubt

[cloud solar]

its intel

[quick locust]

CPU is not important to it

[raw turtle]

They won’t, pretty sure the article said it only uses the gpu

[quick locust]

Intel does most open source and open hardware of the 3

[cloud solar]

they dont even let you use all 4 ram slots unless you have an i9 or whatever

[quick locust]

They do

[raw turtle]

what

[quick locust]

Just quad channel is only for HEDT

same with AMD

but you can use 4 slots in dual channel, thats what i am doing rn

[cloud solar]

doesnt make it any better

it used to be worse ig

[quick locust]

not really?

It hasn't really changed with either amd or intel

You can use all 4 slots on both

also i doubt intel will lock XeSS to their cpus

Only GPUs if their approach is proprietary

[cloud solar]

idk intel is kinda a garbage company so i wouldnt be surprised if they did smth like that

[quick locust]

theyre the same as amd mostly

and theres no real reason to tie it to cpu

[cloud solar]

but theyd do it anyways

[quick locust]

No it'd be dumb

[cloud solar]

when has that stopped intel

[quick locust]

If anything AMD has more of these annoying locks

like AMD PSB

[cloud solar]

those are server cpus

[quick locust]

still it's dumb

[cloud solar]

why do you need a server cpu

[quick locust]

I don't. But that doesn't change that it's an annoying and anti consumer thing

[cloud solar]

genuine question, not trying to be annoying or anything

i just dont see why anyone would need one

[quick locust]

But yeah anyways I do not think they'd tie it to CPU, they have no reason to

[cloud solar]

ig

lets hope they don't

[wraith sky]

WOW!!! @wintry prairie That looks amazing, thanks for the pic!

[atomic jackal]

so guys

if my pc is on hibernaton mode

and power goes out

what are the chances of my pc getting damaged

i plugged it out asap so no power surge happened

[wintry prairie]

Delivery just got here!

[molten coral]

Nothing will happen to it, only thing that will be lost if you had any documents open that you didn’t save. @atomic jackal

[wintry prairie]

Its all there! :)

[molten coral]

What did you get

[wintry prairie]

My wet wetbench and new custom water loop. 😁

[molten coral]

Nice

[atomic jackal]

oh yeah nothing was open on it

probably should invest in an ups since electricity goes out a lot

[wraith sky]

NICE!

[serene dragon]

modern power supply

i mean

it wont break

when power off suddenly

cuz modern power supply got a protection to it

[atomic jackal]

what about windows corruption

[serene dragon]

wont happen lol

[atomic jackal]

well aight then

good to know

[serene dragon]

well maybe if you have documents thats not saved

it will be corrupted

possibly

[atomic jackal]

no i didnt

[serene dragon]

so then ur alright

[atomic jackal]

it was blank

[serene dragon]

yea no worries

[atomic jackal]

maybe i should get an ups

i got 2 power outages just today

they lasted like 2 minutes but its still a bummer

[serene dragon]

yea

or that

it's still the same if you use ups

last for 2 minutes

if you dont shut it down manually

[atomic jackal]

yeah the problem is i dont know when the outage will happen

for example if it happened during a download

im fucked

[midnight crypt]

Where the heck do you live with that frequent outages

[wintry prairie]

The new reservoir is bigger than I expected! ("That's what she said!")

[slow crown]

okay ive been having this issues with bfv it's just on bfv it runs smoothly on diff games. the fps keeps going low and high sometimes i have the framerate limiter set as 200 also enabled the future frame rendering. if anyone have the solution to fix this and make the game smoother cheers. my graphic settings on low as well. my screen keep freezing and stuttering on 10-20 fps whenever i play in underground map. HELP guys

gpu: gtx 1660
cpu: intel i5 9th gen

[weak girder]

how much ram do you have?

and is it single or dual channel?

[slow crown]

8gb ram and it's dual channel

i tried several solutions from YouTube as well and it didn't work too

[weak girder]

well I have a solution

buy more ram

bf5 is ram hungry so getting 16 is better

[slow crown]

alr cheers

[drowsy night]

32 gb of ram should be enough

Well if you like hight graphics

[slow crown]

thanks guys

[slow crown]

is it cheap?

[molten coral]

16GB is more than enough for gaming

32GB is overkill

[slow crown]

cheers

[weak girder]

getting more than 16gb ram wont give you more fps wtf are you talking about

even 16, it wont give you more fps, it'll just remove stutters

[molten bramble]

Lies!

[molten coral]

for the average consumer it is

[supple bane]

but dont you have 32gb ram your self ?

[molten coral]

Yeah, but I actually use it

[supple bane]

for what? 😁

[molten coral]

virtual machines

[supple bane]

i see

[quick locust]

I have 32 GB as well

[weak girder]

I am here with 16 and I never used all of it

[lofty kindle]

Me too

[dry pike]

I regularly use more than 16GB while gaming, granted I have a bunch of crap running in the background and it don't usually go over 20GB unless I play stategy games but still

[lofty kindle]

What game uses more

[dry pike]

Cities Skylines and Total War: Warhammer II I recall spent quit a bit of time above 16GB

But I do agree that most people probably don't need more than 16GB right now, not me, but other people 🙂

[opaque saddle]

i use 29-31GB of ram on cities skylines

[weak girder]

yeah but that cuz of cities skylines

its in another category

[lofty kindle]

Dang

Ive played cities skylines on 8gb but never used that many gb

[dry pike]

It uses however much GB you got 😄

[arctic crag]

8gb RGB>16gb non RGB

[quick locust]

no lol

but usually rgb isn't much of price difference

i just run trident z reds

[arctic crag]

I know I was being sarcastic

[dry pike]

I regret my RGB memory. All software to control it sucks because the method of controlling the RGB is unreliable as shit. I've just given up and am running default rainbow puke.

[arctic crag]

RGB annoys my eyes + shit software

[quick locust]

I avoid rgb mostly due to wire management plus software

[molten coral]

The trident z RGB software is the biggest pile of shit I've ever seen

it just never works

[quick locust]

my gpu has a tiny strip of it but i don't really care about it

yeah well my trident z reds are without rgb

so don't have to deal with that luckily

3600 cl 14 kit

[molten coral]

Everything RGB

[arctic crag]

My eyesssss

How you stand this

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/bBXAo.gif

nacho

[molten coral]

it's only 1 color

[arctic crag]

I bet you paid 200$ just for RGB

[quick locust]

My gpu and mb has rgb but

I leave it as default

none of my case fans have rgb, well there's no 180mm fans with rgb anyway

[molten coral]

Fans alone was like 300

[quick locust]

iirc

[molten coral]

thinking to buy new fans though

[arctic crag]

Who tf needs 180mm

[molten coral]

The Lian Li AL120

[arctic crag]

I heard about it

[quick locust]

my case use three 180mm as intake

at 1200 rpm

[arctic crag]

110$ for a pack of 3

[molten coral]

yes

[quick locust]

my gpu is much louder than anything else anyway

[arctic crag]

What model

[quick locust]

so might as well max the others

gainward 2080 ti phoenix gs

[molten coral]

I got all my fans RPM as low as possible without it heating up too much

[arctic crag]

Gainward not quite popular

[quick locust]

i can do that but gpu is louder anyway

[arctic crag]

Was the only gpu you could fine?

[quick locust]

nah

was in 2019

[arctic crag]

Then why

[quick locust]

one of the few msrp ones

[molten coral]

I kinda want a new GPU

[quick locust]

it's pretty funny that 6700xt msrp is 6800 here

[arctic crag]

I see but I personally would pay 30$ than the msrp to get a good cooling and quiet card

[molten coral]

I'll never go AMD with GPUs

[arctic crag]

Same

[quick locust]

well it's much quiter than my previous gpu, a reference vega 64

[molten coral]

Only had bad experiences with it in the past

[quick locust]

ive had decent experiences

beside loud reference card

drivers are good

[molten coral]

Yeah, I heard drivers are pretty good nowadays

used to be really bad

[quick locust]

though they lack RT in linux open drivers iirc

[arctic crag]

Drivers used to be shit

[quick locust]

i think i need amdgpu-pro for rt

[arctic crag]

Nvidia dude

[quick locust]

i run 2080 ti

nvidia drivers in linux are decent

[arctic crag]

Dual gpu setup?

[quick locust]

no

[arctic crag]

2 PCs

[quick locust]

i sold the vega 64 a while ago

now just laptop and pc with 2080 ti

[arctic crag]

So you bought the 2080 ti before 3000 series launch?

[quick locust]

i ran dual for a while with vega 64 and 2080 ti until i could get it sold

yeh

back in early 2019

[arctic crag]

Ah now that’s reasonable

[quick locust]

3000 series is gone here

[molten coral]

This happened like 2 weeks ago

[quick locust]

oh

[arctic crag]

I just feel bad for anyone who bought a 2080 ti right before 3000 series launch

[molten coral]

One of my display ports went to shit

The other ones seems to be working fine

[arctic crag]

Display ports aren’t that expensive are they?

[molten coral]

Although my card is pretty unstable as I frequently BSOD and have graphical glitches when I play games

[quick locust]

downclock it

[arctic crag]

Temps?

[molten coral]

I mean I never overclocked the card

and downclocking doesn't do much in my case

as it's just the card

that is fucked

[arctic crag]

That sucks

[molten coral]

I won the card in a contest from EA, it's a development card which probably has been used.

[arctic crag]

What an assholes

[molten coral]

Not really

[quick locust]

might help stability

[molten coral]

Trust me, I've tried a lot of things

Just hoping for 3080's to go back to ''normal'' prices

in stock but 1449 euro

[arctic crag]

It’s hard to predict anymore because fucking crypto currency

ethereum is rising again

[quick locust]

nothing

[molten coral]

It isn't just crypto though

[quick locust]

0 cards on their way

crypto in my country wouldn't be profitable i think

very expensive power

[molten coral]

Same here

[quick locust]

theres a 3070 in stock

and one 3080 ti

one palit 3080

the gamerock pro

[eager whale]

There's 3070 pre builts available in my country for about €2000

[eager whale]

We had 3070 and 3080s available for the last while

At 100 above MSRP

[quick locust]

theres some 6800xt

for 9500 and 10350

so a bit less than most 3080s

[dry pike]

looks cool, not gonna lie

[quaint lichen]

https://imgur.com/a/IpznuuB
@neon current

Can anyone tell me if this build (first time building btw) will run disc chrome and any aaa videogame at once without problem

[quick locust]

include an SSD in that build

otherwise yeah

[quaint lichen]

ssd expensive

[quick locust]

though the gpu is overpriced, but hey, shortage

[quaint lichen]

I need a pc tho

My 2008 mac is dead

[neon current]

so far this is a good build but i would think of changing the ram, get SSD and also maybe change the heatsink to a noctua if you're going a fan

[quaint lichen]

will the case fit a noctua

I’m happy with the crucial ram

[neon current]

if its a mid tower it should yea

[quick locust]

your cooler is fine for 3500x

but

you do want an ssd

[lament flare]

If 2 rams has same speed, same memory but different timing, is it affect to fps?

[quick locust]

at least a small one for windows

they will run at the slowest timings of the two @lament flare

[dry pike]

check the manual for the case and the noctua to find out

[lament flare]

But it able to run as dual channel ram right?

[quick locust]

yes

[lament flare]

Thank you

[quick locust]

just use the right slots

hm

so XeSS is open source as i expected

so the only one doing closed proprietary is nvidia

[quaint lichen]

Where can o find a manual

[quick locust]

not big surprise

[quaint lichen]

I haven’t bought it yet

[dry pike]

google the name + manual usually works for me

[quick locust]

corsairs website is broken for me

but just search for the case

[quaint lichen]

How would I fit a cpu cooler of it already ha fans

does it just go inside a

[dry pike]

Maybe you need to watch some youtube guides on how to assemble a computer.

[quaint lichen]

lol ok

so confusing

To build

So many parts

[quick locust]

Nah you'll figure it out

[quaint lichen]

I’m willing to spend time on it though

I’m just scared something will go wrong and it won’t work and I won’t know why

No ssd where I live

[nova yew]

what?

did you check sata ssds too

[quick locust]

Uh pretty much any country has them

Even Joseon

[weak girder]

its profitable nowhere

even before the shortage

I dont see how spending tens of thousands of gpu's just to wait 15 years to even get your money back is profitable

[nova yew]

i think the reason u dont see how is that it doesn't take 15 years to profit from 10000 gpus

[oblique tree]

I don't do crypto and is heavily against it, but even i know it hardly takes a year to turn a profit if you mine the right stuff

[arctic crag]

It is profitable in countries with low electricity cost

My friend is a miner he started with a gtx 1070 then he got 3080

Now he has 5 gpus

[quaint lichen]

No we do have it but Amazon don’t

Ssd

[supple bane]

@plucky token you killed any components yet?

[plucky token]

Gonna start on monday

[supple bane]

aww

[plucky token]

Here is the first load

[supple bane]

i saw. i was lurking,

[plucky token]

[latent light]

Intel claims that Alder Lake's Golden Cove performance core offers an average of a 19% performance improvement over the Cypress Cove architecture found in Rocket Lake when both chips operate at the same frequency (ISO frequency)

[proud trellis]

how big is that radiator ?

[midnight crypt]

it says 480 on the box

[supple bane]

i cant help but think that that is a bit overkill for just a cpu loop

especially just a 9900k

unless you are confident you will add the gpu once you can get a block

[plucky token]

5,2ghz all core

And i want to add my gpu later on

[supple bane]

that rad is more suited for a 3990x all core oc lol

the 3990x will push like 500-600 watt when overclocked

but yes adding a 3080 to that will make it justified

[plucky token]

And the thing is. A smaller rad would have looked bad in the case

[supple bane]

speaking of. where will you mount it?

top i imagine right?

[plucky token]

Top

[supple bane]

because front would look weird having one side rad and the other not.

[plucky token]

The front will never get a rad

Fresh air intake and the top will exhaust the Rad heat. My cat will love it

[quick locust]

I wish intel gpus didn't use tsmc

As they're already maxed out

[proud trellis]

500-600 watts

the fuck

[plucky token]

Isnt 3990x a threadripper?

[supple bane]

yes

its arguably the fastest cpu on the planet

actually it probably is.

[plucky token]

Doubt

[quick locust]

Nah

[plucky token]

Quanten computer

[quick locust]

Ampere Mystique is faster

Dual 128 core

[supple bane]

ok that doesnt count lol

thats not something anyone could buy.

and i imagine its nicheness would probably limit its performance across the board.

the 3990x has a very good single core performance ontop of having 128 threads. which is why i dont say the 7742 because that has a lower scp.

[quick locust]

7763

Also the ampere is cheaper than epyc

But yeah

[supple bane]

i forgot about the 7763.

[latent light]

Epyc Genoa expected to more than double Milan's performance, has 50% more cores

[storm osprey]

5600x is 275 right now if youre subbed to newegg newsletter

[dry pike]

Nothing wrong with big rads. If the heat load is lower then you can just play longer until the fans spin up. Is good if noise is important.

[latent light]

420mm rads are better than 480mm right

[quick locust]

With radiators bigger and thicker is better

Except for case compatibility

So just use whatever is biggest that doesn't cause issues

[storm osprey]

just make a case out of radiators

[latent light]

Get a radiator from a vehicle

[quick locust]

Lol

[latent light]

If it can cool an engine it can cool a PC

[frank oxide]

Is the i5 10400f and the rx 6600xt 8gb a good combination?

[drowsy night]

idk y have a tamagochi

[midnight crypt]

isnt the 6600 bad

[quick locust]

It's overpriced for what it is

But the hardware is fine

[midnight crypt]

i thought it has some issues with its cache

[quick locust]

It's a lower/mid card with less cache than the rest

[quaint lichen]

I see what u all mean by scalpers now

Nearly 500 quid for w2060

Is it really worth it for a 2060 over a 1660s ti

[arctic crag]

Depends on the price

2060 is 15% faster than a gtx 1660 ti/super

Also you get dlss and rtx support

[midnight crypt]

i would still wait for a good price though

[raw turtle]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=Rx+6600xt+bundle

2 in stock atm

[loud lotus]

Is it worth trading a 3070 vision OC for a 3080 founders edition ……. Not familiar with the founders editions

[quick locust]

yeah, better gpu

[storm osprey]

it will run warmer and louder, but youll get better performance

since those 2 arent a major concern as long as you have decent cooling, i would make the trade if its that simple

[supple bane]

i more worried about who is willing to trade a 3070 for a 3080

sounds like a scam to me

[storm osprey]

YEA

theres very few scenarios someone would trade

[loud lotus]

Well I have to add $300 to my 3070

[arctic crag]

Reasonable

[plucky token]

Mined card go wheeeee

[midnight crypt]

thats $100 more than msrp

[wintry prairie]

They use different size fans

FYI

And after diminishing returns, adding more rads isn't necessarily beneficial.

[wintry prairie]

That mb is no bueno

[supple bane]

i was thinking more of him sending his 3070 and receiving diddle squat in return

[raw turtle]

No? It’s a Tier A b550

[wintry prairie]

Really bad reviews

[raw turtle]

Look at LTT mobo tier list

[wintry prairie]

The bundles tend to have something good, like a GPU, and something bad, like Gigabyte PSU, or MB no one wants.

[raw turtle]

Bad QC, no biggie

[wintry prairie]

IF you want to get it, go for it.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[raw turtle]

I can’t afford it but if you get a working mobo it’s a solid deal

[wintry prairie]

I respectfully disagree. I think there are better options and MB that don't have horrible reviews like this one.

[raw turtle]

Why isn’t it a good deal?

You get an in stock 6600xt and a good motherboard

[arctic crag]

what mb?

I'm lazy to scroll up

[wintry prairie]

Like I said before, read the reviews. Just click on the bundle, on the MB, scroll down to reviews.

[raw turtle]

Bad reviews are just from DOA units which is under Warranty

[wintry prairie]

It mihgt be "good" theoretically, but in practice it isn't.

[arctic crag]

what model?

[raw turtle]

Asrock b550 steel legend

[wintry prairie]

So MANY DOA

[raw turtle]

How??

In practice it’s an amazing board

Lmao

[arctic crag]

Not a big fan of asrock

[wintry prairie]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550-steel-legend/p/N82E16813157937?Item=N82E16813157937

[arctic crag]

their steel legend series sucks

[quick locust]

wish supermicro did am4 boards

their intel boards seem good

[arctic crag]

Go for asus tuf b550

Best power phases on a b550

[wintry prairie]

EVGA is my go to, and they are finally going to make their first AM4 motherboard.

[arctic crag]

I remember watching a youtube building a pc with that asrock steel legend

but it was a b450

[raw turtle]

Tuf plus is on the same tier bro

[arctic crag]

When he powered the pc on the mb smoked

screw these uselss tier lists

[wintry prairie]

[raw turtle]

Screw your random video on YouTube

[arctic crag]

screw it yeah

am not telling you to do what i say i'm just sharing what i know about the mb

[arctic crag]

EVGA making mbs

Nice

[wintry prairie]

They've been for a long time. But finally AMD boards.

My favorite boards are EVGA, and GPUs

Their CS is the BEST

[arctic crag]

EVGA gpus are good

[wintry prairie]

Some of the best, and no one beats their CS

[arctic crag]

I hear they have the best warrenty and support out there

[wintry prairie]

The best

period

[arctic crag]

But i'm more of asus fan

[wintry prairie]

Cool

[arctic crag]

their support is shit

[quick locust]

i like supermicro boards more than evga

[arctic crag]

but they make good products

[wintry prairie]

Yeah, many make good products, which is nice for everyone. But no one beats EVGA CS and warranty

[arctic crag]

Supermicro??haven't heard of them before

[quick locust]

customer service here is mostly non existent for any brand

they mostly do server things @arctic crag

[arctic crag]

Mate you're the nerdist tech dude in this server

[quick locust]

never had to rma a motherboard

but my xfx gpu i had to send to taiwan

[arctic crag]

fr open a youtube channel i will be the first sub

I'm not being sarcastic rn

I'm talking real

[quick locust]

I rarely upload on mine, but none is tech videos

[raw turtle]

Jesus that probably wasn’t cheap

[quick locust]

ye took ages too

denmark to taiwan to china to taiwan to denmark

[wintry prairie]

No bueno

[arctic crag]

Octane main

[quick locust]

at least they gave me a replacement

[wintry prairie]

?

[arctic crag]

You know apex?

[wintry prairie]

Oh, sorta, not much

[arctic crag]

There is a character called Octane there he says 'No bueno'much

[wintry prairie]

Oh, lol

[quick locust]

well its a common phrase

[arctic crag]

So i though you were a octane main

[wintry prairie]

We say is a lot in the fam

[quick locust]

asus is mostly fine

if you are fine with the asus price hike lol

their phones not as much, they have a few issues

i currently have a ROG II phone in for RMA due to dead power IC, which i found out is common for them

[arctic crag]

Expensive i know but that's because they use the most expensive components in the market

[wintry prairie]

Pretty sure EVGA uses better parts than ASUS, in general

[arctic crag]

I don't know much about their phones

[arctic crag]

I don't know but if that's real am buying EVGA for my next build

[wintry prairie]

You should, and get Elite membership ASAP

its free

[quick locust]

oh sideways

[arctic crag]

I can't read that lol

[wintry prairie]

My neck hurts

[arctic crag]

yeah lol

[quick locust]

kept getting stuck in this before it finally died

[wintry prairie]

I just threw away my ASUS Maximus Extreme and replaced it with an EVGA 299 Dark

[quick locust]

kept restarting on its own beforehand

dead power IC now

evga tends to be decent

though they did an oopsie on their 3090s lol

[wintry prairie]

Oopsie? Hot VRAM? resolved 🙂

[quick locust]

No, faulty fan controller

Killing the crad

card*

[arctic crag]

At least we can all agree that MSI is the worst this year

[quick locust]

they do replace all of them that it happens to though

MSI tends to be hit or miss

[wintry prairie]

Oh, you mean the New World thing

[quick locust]

they either do well or poorly

yeah

[wintry prairie]

Yeah, no questions asked everyone got a replacement

[quick locust]

yeah

though an oopsie on their behalf

lol

at least better than my rog II which most people can't get repaired cause they stopped making parts for it long ago

and many die after a year so no warranty for many

but here everything is two years so

[arctic crag]

Why buying rog phone at the first place?

[quick locust]

it died a month before warranty ran out

It's very fast for price

[wintry prairie]

Actually, it was shown not to be their fault, and it was 3000 series not only 3090, and not only EVGA.

[quick locust]

and decent size battery

its their fault if their gpus fail during a game

[arctic crag]

I'm apple fan personally

[quick locust]

no games can kill gpus without the gpu having issues in the first place

[wintry prairie]

nnot only evga gpus . . .

[arctic crag]

Nothing can beat the IOS

[quick locust]

iOS is nice but

Don't like iphones much

[arctic crag]

overpriced i know

[quick locust]

yeah also had issues with them

dead audio ic in my iphone 7

though they are mostly good

and faster than any android

[arctic crag]

I've had my iphones 6 for 5 years never experienced any problems except battery health

Also it was kinda slow

But what do you expect of a 5 years old phone

I have iphone 12 pro rn

[quick locust]

well yeah batteries die out, which i like about the one i use rn

can just take it out

though this phone is much slower than my rog but.. at least it works rn

iPhone 12 is pretty nice

[arctic crag]

Samsung is nice too

[quick locust]

yeah though

both very expensive at top

[arctic crag]

yeah 1000$

and no fucking charger

[quick locust]

my backup is a samsung xcover 4S

slow but reliable

and replaceable battery

[arctic crag]

4S damn man good old days

Haven't touched one in a years

[quick locust]

takes quite a while before i get my rog back i think

well

its a 2019 phone

like my rog

it's not that old

[arctic crag]

oh i thought you were talking about the galaxy 4s

[quick locust]

nah

galaxy xcover 4S

[wraith sky]

@wintry prairie can you help me with my water loop?

[wintry prairie]

Probably

[wraith sky]

Awesome, thanks

[wintry prairie]

You bet!

[wraith sky]

Which cpu block did you end up getting for your new build?

[quick locust]

slow but decent enough

[arctic crag]

It's slower than iphone 7

[quick locust]

though the SIM slots are annoying

yeah

[arctic crag]

But good as a back up phone

[quick locust]

heatkiller IV is nice

[wraith sky]

These two?

[wintry prairie]

YEs

[arctic crag]

Custom water cooling?

[wintry prairie]

Yes

[wraith sky]

Why two different blocks?

[arctic crag]

Sold a third kidney lol?

[wintry prairie]

Going to test them out and see how much of a difference I see.

brb

back

[supple bane]

I still dont understand why speed matters in a phone ?

As long as its fast enough to be responsive

Which any modern phone is.

[chrome skiff]

I mean i use my samsung dex quite a lot and i can play games on it

but thats a specific case

[wintry prairie]

Same

[chrome skiff]

I have to use stems and power points at work and i do it all with my phone

[quick locust]

I never really use mine for that

Does not work with all the VGA projectors haha

[supple bane]

The most intensive thing my phone does is video playback lmao

Which is why speed doesnt bother me

[quick locust]

Same pretty much

But some things are slow on this

[supple bane]

I use word and powerpoint on my phone too but those are hardly intensive

[quick locust]

I never use those on phone that's awful

To type in

I can use KDE connect and remote my pc with it though

[supple bane]

I have a samsung a70. Which is not fast by any means. But its instant responsive and plays back max res (1440p) video flawlessly so good for me

[quick locust]

This current phone is 1280x720

[supple bane]

How old is it?

Mine is 2400x1080 i think

[quick locust]

2 years

2019

[supple bane]

Oh i read up, its a spare phone

[quick locust]

But it's just until I get my ROG back from rma

[chrome skiff]

When will we get a evga ftw3 phone

[supple bane]

I have 3d mark but im sure there is some config wrong because my phone scores in the bottom 2%

Probably a power saving setting somewhere

[wintry prairie]

1440x3200

[wintry prairie]

[chrome skiff]

woah is that your desk tak? Thats dope

[errant sphinx]

wow nice

[chrome skiff]

I was doing a epoxy flow of blue to red that sat over my parts, so it looked like cold air to hot air

[quick locust]

No I wish lul

[chrome skiff]

Im doing it myself and im learning a lot about epoxy and i need it to be perfect

[supple bane]

My ikea desk pc did it better!

[quick locust]

I don't have permit to buy or use epoxy

[supple bane]

Jk thats sick

[wintry prairie]

Pics please 🙂

[chrome skiff]

Maybe when i finish i will post some pics, it just looks like a beat up desk atm

[supple bane]

I was looking at images of this yesterday actually. And i kinda miss it

[chrome skiff]

Then i have to move my....wall...pc into the desk then i will see how it turned out

[supple bane]

This was my home made ikea desk pc

It was pretty rough. But it was fun and unique

[chrome skiff]

That looks great though

was the airflow good or?

[supple bane]

Very

Better than my current case

It looks good in pictures but when you get hands on it falls down

Although i planned it out in cad there were lots of things i overlooked

The worst one was accessing the rear io

Basically impossible because i never considered the wood was 4cm thick meaning the ports were set back into a lil crater making them impossible to get to

[chrome skiff]

was it internal or did you have it on the edge of the desk like a case would hold the io?

oh

[proud trellis]

what was all the cables like ?

like from the PSU to the components, would they run under the desk or something

[supple bane]

They run under the desk yeah

Ran

[arctic crag]

I said slower than an iPhone 7 which is barely the minimum in 2021 am not comparing it to an iPhone 12 or something

[supple bane]

Haha

Barely the minimum

Why is it the minimum

[arctic crag]

For IOS it is

It’s not as fast as it used to be before iOS is getting heavier and heavier

[supple bane]

Well, my phone is consderably slower than an iphone 7

And its very responsive

And i bet my phones cpu never goes above 50% usage

Because suprise suprise phones dont need to have powerful cpus

[arctic crag]

What phone you got?

[supple bane]

Samsung a70

[arctic crag]

You don’t need a powerful cpu I agree but as you said as long as the phone responsive and iPhone 7 is barely responsive

It’s on the edge

For IOS

[supple bane]

I assume you meant responsive ?

[arctic crag]

Yeah sorry

[supple bane]

But yes. A phone doesnt need a fast cpu to be responsive. It needs decent storage. A well optimised OS and a good touch screen

I use my phone for discord, youtube and instagram. Non of which require any more power than what i have

[arctic crag]

Fair enough

[chrome skiff]

I have a samsung s21 ultra for my personal use phone and my father has the a50 i believe or 51 maybe. The menus are different but i cant really feel any difference with using them. budget phones have come a long way

I help him update it and add contacts all the time so im used to using his phone and it feels just as fast

[supple bane]

As said i have the a70 and my dad has the a71. When i use the two the only difference i have found is his has a more refined camera and oddly a much nicer vibration

Its subtle but noticable

When you are typing it feels higher quality

[arctic crag]

I don’t know about the situation for android I’m talking about IOS

[chrome skiff]

although my s21 has 120hz and it feels smoother but doesnt help with video power point stems etc

Well both os's become harder and harder to run for older phones

[arctic crag]

Android seems more old phones friendly

Apple is making older phones slower so we upgrade

I think things could have been better for older iPhone like 6 and below

[quick locust]

Power point and office in general on a phone just seem awful to me

[wintry prairie]

Same. Very aweful

[arctic crag]

I want to send some pics here but am not regular so can i dm you to upload here?

[quick locust]

Uh ok but I have to enable DMs, a sec

There

[arctic crag]

It’s over 8mb one sec

[arctic crag]

When you look at this setup you think it’s tiny room

Right?

[quick locust]

Under bed?

[arctic crag]

Yep

Brilliant isn’t it?

[quick locust]

Yeah

[wintry prairie]

This your setup? I like it

[quick locust]

I'd do that if my room was taller

It's @arctic crag

[wintry prairie]

Ah, very nice @arctic crag

[arctic crag]

Not it’s not mine either I saw it on a setup war video

[quick locust]

My room is just 177 cm to ceiling so

Wouldn't work in mine

[arctic crag]

177cm damn that’s kinda short

[quick locust]

Yeah

[arctic crag]

I’m about 179cm in height wouldn’t even fit there lol

[wraith sky]

@wintry prairie I'm really liking the OPTIMUS cpu block you showed me!

[wintry prairie]

I like it too. Not sure if its just marketing hype, but they have lot's of quotes stating its lowered their temps by a good amount.

I guess we'll see soon. 🙂

[cloud solar]

new set up

its kinda dark lol

but its nice

[eager whale]

They're shit mobile ports

Samsung notes is better and that's saying something

[molten coral]

Man that looks so good

the walnut wood makes it even better

[wintry prairie]

Just got here, thanks FEDEX

[tender socket]

what image quality is the monitor

[cloud solar]

1440p 144hz with a 0.8 ms response time

1000:1 contrast ratio with hdr

it has freesync too

[tender socket]

that's worth more than my house hahahaha

[cloud solar]

its only 400$

really not expensive for what you get

[tender socket]

Here is worth 771.37 US dollars

Third World

the cheapest 1080 144 monitor here is worth 421.68 US dollars

I hate my country (in terms of component prices and that)

[wintry prairie]

Wow! My 360Hz monitor was just a bit more than that.

[tender socket]

Argentina's economy is not in the best moment, especially because everything is expensive, a 1030 is at 100 dollars 😦

[wintry prairie]

Just 100?

[tender socket]

gt 1030 2gb is there more?

[wintry prairie]

That's cheap, its around $120 here

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/use-amd-fsr-to-upscale-your-own-images

[tender socket]

sorry

[latent light]

Pretty neat

[wintry prairie]

Old news, but cool

[latent light]

Intel expecting to plow past Nvidia in exascale stuff

Lmao

[tender socket]

sorry here the 1030 is at 323.95 US dollars

[wintry prairie]

Ah, when you said 100 dollars I was like, NICE!!!

Boludo!

[tender socket]

I have to study to leave this country

[tender socket]

boludo?

[wintry prairie]

Do it!

[wintry prairie]

That's what my Argentinian roomate would say constantly

[tender socket]

Argentines use it as friendly or aggressive

Argentine classes cannot be given because each province appears to be a different country

[solar kestrel]

@long echo i think you will be happy to know that i am currently cleaning my mousepad

[prime jasper]

bruh

no pinging users that are not in chat

[proud trellis]

[solar kestrel]

shes said she doesnt have an issue with it, plus she told me to let her know when i finally clean it

[prime jasper]

im probably getting Xbox series s for console games

[solar kestrel]

its a good console

my friend has it

gets the job done

[prime jasper]

yeah i have good pc so dont need series x

[long echo]

Finally

[solar kestrel]

isnt it like 5 am for you

5:10

or is it 6:10

[fallen harbor]

either 4 or 5

[long echo]

5:08 am

[solar kestrel]

5:10 was my first guess

cause at 1 am for me its usually 7 am for you

im simply too smart to be kept alive

[fallen harbor]

why are you awake at 5 tho

[solar kestrel]

starr is a teacher

but its saturday

[long echo]

Because I can't sleep

I was awake at 4

[fallen harbor]

oof

[long echo]

Spend an hour tossing and turning and then decided to go watch netflix

[cloud solar]

what the hell happened

oh restarting the computer fixed it

[wintry prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

[cloud solar]

yes and it fixed it

[wintry prairie]

The irony is priceless. Much appreciated.

[stone cargo]

How do you get the Colored Desert role

[wintry prairie]

Be a long standing member, become a friend or employee of dice, or boost the server

[supple bane]

!!regular

[silent oasis]

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[plucky root]

I've been desperately trying to fix my screen tearing on bf5 without vsync

[cloud solar]

thats your issue

[plucky root]

vsync gives input delay

and caps my framerate at 60

on a 2080 ti that could 100% handle more

[cloud solar]

yes thats how it gets rid of tearing

by capping the framerate

and if your monitor is 60hz, you dont really benefit from more fps

[wintry prairie]

Vsync is fine for me, but BF5 has had a lot of issues as of late.

What are your specs?

[cloud solar]

just set the frame limiter to 60 and if it doesnt go away, turn vsync on @plucky root

[plucky root]

lmao

[wintry prairie]

Hmmm, I'm getting 170fps, no tearing

[cloud solar]

hes got a 60hz monitor

[wintry prairie]

Lol

So lol

Super lol

Thank you

[plucky root]

i'll look into investing in a better monitor then if it'll benefit my rig

[wintry prairie]

What fps do you get without vsync

[plucky root]

Let me look

I was capping my fps at 120

[wintry prairie]

Ok, you're good there. Give .e a sec.

A higher refresh rate monitor is probably your best bet. I wasn't getting any tearing on my 60hz, but don't know all the variables on your end.

[pulsar sentinel]

bomb have been planted

[wintry prairie]

Careful with those gigabyte bombs

[wintry prairie]

Nice

[arctic crag]

Facts

[quick locust]

Taken two weeks to send my phone to Stockholm for rma so far

With DHL Express

And it's not gotten far

It's not even that far away to ship

[supple bane]

ive been waiting over a month for my rma :)

i sent it on the 15th july

[quick locust]

Mine probably too

Which means warranty run it before it arrives

But they already accepted it so

[wintry prairie]

It took my RMA 2 days.

[quick locust]

DHL express but they forgot the express part

It's the neighbor country its not far

[wintry prairie]

I used UPS

[prime jasper]

Alr anyone know why my gpu is being used 0-10% with bf5

The cpu ain't much of a bottleneck and it's at 70% ishThe cpu us a AMD FX 8370 and gpu gtx 1050tiGetting alot of low fps on lowest of settings on online multiplayer games even lower than 30fps in high population or high explosion areasWhen I do gun fights sometimes my fps drops off so much it's unplayable in aim wise because it lags alot

If anyone could help would be appreciated 🙂

[supple bane]

The cpu is a bottleneck

[prime jasper]

A lil but it still shouldn't be bottlenecking this much

But I'm getting 20-30 atm high object stuff going on

[molten bramble]

Yup.

[normal matrix]

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[prime jasper]

Ain't got no money for new cpu and mb

[normal matrix]

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[prime jasper]

What's a good res without making look dog

[normal matrix]

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[ember bolt]

my chipset be always spinning at 3000+ rpm because it got blocked by my gpu and my gpu fans don't bother spinning 90% of the time, so chipset fan sucking in all the heat , x570 boards really be the best

[serene dragon]

LMAO

[weak girder]

no

Im pretty sure he sould increase the res and lower the graphocs

to put more strain on the gpu

[prime jasper]

Did 720p 70% res and got 20-30fps

And on benchmark online it gets 80-100 on low

[dry pike]

The reason I chose MSI for my x570 motherboard this time around.

[ember bolt]

asus board

[dry pike]

Imo most manufacturers messed up. Especially Asus.

[ember bolt]

it's super annoying when gaming, so I just put my gpu on a constant 70% fan speed (three fans) when gaming heavier games, so the chipset fan slows down and I don't hear it, otherwise it drives me crazy

high pitch small fan is super annoying

[arctic crag]

That sucks

[tender socket]

the amd ryzen 5 1600 af is better than the ryzen 3 3200g? I say it because it is a cheap processor

[midnight crypt]

The 1600 is a tad better

[tender socket]

thanks I still don't have enough money but it was to know

[opaque saddle]

What’s your gpu

And I would suggest to pay for a bit more for a newer processor…

[tender socket]

is that 1600 af is a minimum wage

[opaque saddle]

Seems like you are from Argentina to me

[midnight crypt]

What do you have right now?

[tender socket]

Yes

There are countries here in the south that are worse economically and in these salary issues than Argentines, I am a minor, I do not work, I save as much as I can doing work at home and studying to leave this country

[tender socket]

a ryzen 3 3200g accompanied by an rx 570, 16 ram and a 90hz monitor

my favorite games are battlefield 4 and 5 for now I'm happy but when I have to advance a little with the processor I buy that one and that's it

[midnight crypt]

You would be better off buying a newer cpu

[opaque saddle]

I remember there is a problem with pricing especially in Argentina

I remember they got a 30% tax on electronic goods with low income levels

[near rune]

well different countries have different economies

[tender socket]

a 60hz monitor 200 dollars

[opaque saddle]

So a 35% income tax and 30% tax for electronic goods. They may not be able to buy things with the pricing from another region

[tender socket]

the 1050 to 75000 pesos and the 1650 55000 on one page, it does not make sense

[opaque saddle]

I’d go for 1600 AF. You don’t need a integrated graphics from the CPU, there is no use since you will be using a dedicated GPU for gaming, which is more powerful compared to integrated graphics

[tender socket]

it was cheap

[opaque saddle]

Was referring to the performance of the RX570

[tender socket]

ah

[fringe depot]

Anyone has any suggestions for ram ? I wanna buy 2x 8gb but idk wich😄

[midnight crypt]

are you just trying to add more or replace old ram

[fringe depot]

I have a 16gb stick rn but i realized that i have some fps issues in some games

So yh i guess replace

[prime jasper]

Hello, there. I'm new to this server and new to Battlefield V. I'm here to talk about a very specific situation I'm in and it's VERY frustrating. I've got a connection problem... When I enter any mode, after a few seconds that black screen appears and it says DISCONNECTED FROM EA SERVERS it's really frustrating, does anybody have a solution to that... I've tried flushing my DNS, running as administrator, repairing the game files... But no results. If anyone has something, just ping me.

[quick locust]

If you have one stick you can also just get a second for dual channel

But most 2x8 kits are just fine, 3200 MT/s are common

[fringe depot]

Aight thx

[molten bramble]

Probably something to be casually addressed in #battlefield-legacy-titles or through the official support options below:

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[arctic crag]

3600mhz cl18 or 3200mhz cl16?

[supple bane]

3600

[arctic crag]

The difference is like 5$

[prime jasper]

thx

[latent light]

4400 MHz or go home

[supple bane]

Me with my 2133

[quick locust]

can't go over 3733 with my board

i talked with buildzoid about it and neither could he

[arctic crag]

I heard that anything above 3600 is unstable

[quick locust]

depends

it can be fine

[arctic crag]

I've seen benchmarks where 3600 outperformed 4200 in games

[dry pike]

On AMD that is very likely

[arctic crag]

yeah

[quick locust]

not on intel

since works differently entirely

ryzen is a bit more picky there

[arctic crag]

But do intel cpus benefit that much from high speed like 4400?

[dry pike]

The infinity fabric and the memory is fastest when they run 1:1 on AMD. The memory need to run a lot faster if otherwise to compensate for the worse ratio.'

[arctic crag]

like isn't 3200 really enough for intel

[quick locust]

yes they do

well its a diminishing returns

but they don't have infinity fabric issue

becomes more and more expensive due to lower yield that can hit the frequencies stable

and less gain

though DDR5 will be a big step there

[arctic crag]

yeah starting with 4800 speed

but cl is really high

like 22

[dry pike]

I run my infinity fabric and memory running slightly overclocked at 1:1 @ approx 3700mhz

[quick locust]

i run my kit on 3600 cl 14 on my desktop

i can't go much higher on this gigabyte motherboard

but on 11th gen boards you can mostly go nuts

[latent light]

First AM5 socket 600-series motherboards nor Zen 4 won't have PCIe 5.0, 600-series boards will likely get unlocked but limited support of PCIe 5.0 with Zen 5 launch

[arctic crag]

3600 cl14 that's awsome

[quick locust]

yeah

4 sticks too

so nice they all work well there

alder lake vs zen 4 will be interesting @latent light

[arctic crag]

quad channel with that speed and timing i bet your mobo is crying

[quick locust]

it's not quad channel, just dual

[dry pike]

PCIe 5.0 is not important to most regular users yet as graphics cards are not close to use PCIe 4.0 yet.

[arctic crag]

You said 4 sticks

[quick locust]

none of the consumer boards on amd or intel support quad channel

yeah its still dual

[arctic crag]

Oh

[quick locust]

just 2 sticks in each channel

[arctic crag]

I think it's more of promotional move

We got PCle 4.0 a year ago

[quick locust]

two

[arctic crag]

or a year and half

[quick locust]

since zen 2

[arctic crag]

yeah

[quick locust]

though

amd laptops still dont have pcie 4.0 iirc

while intel does

[arctic crag]

Yes

Intel did with their 11th gen

[quick locust]

amd laptops are quite limited in pcie in comparison funnily enough

when its opposite on desktop

[arctic crag]

Intel is still the king for gaming in laptops

[dry pike]

pcie 4 in laptops only makes sense for the laptops with gfx cards that need it

[quick locust]

no also for USB 4.0 and other features

and SSDs

and 2.5 to 10 gig internet

[arctic crag]

I think lenovo legion 7 is the most powerful laptop you can get in 2021

[quick locust]

i do like AMDs mobile gpis

gpu*s

even though there's so few laptops with it

[dry pike]

you can have internet and USB 4 without pcie 4 if you want.

[quick locust]

yes, but they are already quite limited in their lanes

[arctic crag]

Well but that comes for a price,Have you heard about optimus?

[quick locust]

i do know of it

[dry pike]

SSDs actually using PCIE 4 in laptops are rare as they produce too much heat

[latent light]

Alder-Lake won't touch Zen 4, Raptor-Lake will

[quick locust]

optimus was problem in linux for quite a while, not so much anymore

[arctic crag]

You basically get a worse cpu performance unlike one with mux switch

[quick locust]

my current laptop is just ryzen integrated anyway, super slow but works fine

[arctic crag]

Mux switch is the only way to turn off igpu so you get the full perfomance of your ryzen cpu

[quick locust]

there's laptops with am4 socket so desktop cpu

but they are kinda dumb unless you're an engineer or something

[arctic crag]

Actually laptops cpus have come a long way like 14% difference between a desktop cpu and a laptop cpu with the same name

unlike gpus which is a fucking joke

[quick locust]

eh they are still heavily thermal and power limited

[arctic crag]

yeah i know

[quick locust]

though M1 is great for most people

[arctic crag]

Nvidia did a dicks move this gen

[quick locust]

beats any ryzen in single core

[arctic crag]

they named their laptop gpus the same name as desktop gpus

Like you about the M gpus

Like gtx 1070 m

Now it's just the same name as a desktop

[quick locust]

well they are the same die iirc

but very low power in comparison

[arctic crag]

But not the same perfomance

People will expect it's the same perfomance

[quick locust]

can't really shove a 3080's 350W budget into a laptop