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supple bane
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some times its so fucking obvious it hurts.

woeful kelp
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when it says it like this

midnight crypt
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Seems like it

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Where are you buying from?

supple bane
opaque saddle
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what about the prebuilt computers from "Golden Computer Arcade" @marsh gull . Amazon prebuilt computers are bad as well as their machines

supple bane
woeful kelp
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MMvision if you know it

supple bane
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from cyberpower

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mmm thats certainly a gtx 1650

molten coral
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I would say cyberpower is alright

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Friend of mine got a PC from them

opaque saddle
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why 1650 tho...

idle drum
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I have a liquid cooled from I buy power never had any issues

marsh gull
midnight crypt
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What system are you looking at specifically on that site?

opaque saddle
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lol anyway. budget ram sticks are bad

marsh gull
opaque saddle
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I went to the shops directly to get own parts separately when i was travelling

marsh gull
opaque saddle
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ended up getting a $100 discount

marsh gull
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pog

opaque saddle
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and i was stupid enough to bring my monitor and my M-ATX tower to my luggage

woeful kelp
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AMD Ryzenβ„’ 5 5600X a good processor? instead og the i7 11700f that might be overkill?

soft dove
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whats da case tho?

woeful kelp
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3060 or the ti version

soft dove
opaque saddle
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cant remember which one

woeful kelp
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lol then ill get the 5600x

woeful kelp
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NICE

soft dove
opaque saddle
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coz i got that a few years ago

wintry prairie
soft dove
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3060 Ti, nice.

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@woeful kelp Lmao I am sooo wrong.

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Get the 11700f if you can, not the Ryzen 5 5600x.

opaque saddle
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the problem is that... it is cheaper to get parts from overseas coz we have to pay for 10% tax for everything

soft dove
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10% GST rip

opaque saddle
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so i went to Hong Kong and got everything i needed almost 6 years ago

soft dove
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Ryzen 5 5600x gets beaten by the i7-11700 CPU

opaque saddle
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Personally... i would get the non F version

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coz it is always better being able to do hardware diagnostics

soft dove
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Yeah, just spend a lil more on that in-case your GPU ever fails on you lol.

woeful kelp
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hmm just saw a other video of them compared (5600x and i7-11700f) and its like 5-10 fps difference

opaque saddle
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like... if your desktop has failed or GPU has failed. You can still use your machine

soft dove
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otherwise, it's the other way around.

woeful kelp
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really?

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i thought it was cheaper

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lol

soft dove
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Not sure tbh.

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Just check your regional pricing.

woeful kelp
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i think its 50 dollars cheaper

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the 5600x

opaque saddle
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what about the board

soft dove
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Yeah you should talk about the motherboard as well.

wintry prairie
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The 5600x is about $110 cheaper.

soft dove
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The motherboard for the i7-11700 is more expensive than a B450 or B550 motherboard.

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Because Z490 or Z590 are hella expensive.

wintry prairie
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I'd get a 570 motherboard if I went with the 5600x

woeful kelp
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The name of the motherboard is: Asus TUF B550M-E Gaming

opaque saddle
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i would get a 5600x with a b450 mb and put the savings into a better gpu

soft dove
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I think you need to do a bios update before using it.

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Derek, are you an actual aussie?

opaque saddle
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yeah

wintry prairie
woeful kelp
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Asus ROG Strix 550W 80plus gold, does this PSU go well with everything else?

opaque saddle
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i remember our medium-high tier b450m boards were around 70AUD

soft dove
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Nice to see another aussie here, hell yeah.

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Bro, they're like above 100 now bruh.

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Or I think thats the new B550 models uh.

marsh gull
opaque saddle
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than if you saved 110USD and 70AUD... maybe you an get a better GPU

soft dove
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I prefer intel tho tbh.

opaque saddle
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i like intel but i don't like they always change their mb design

soft dove
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Yeah it's stinky.

opaque saddle
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and the last gen cpu wasn't "compatible" to the newer board

soft dove
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I bought a B460 a month before they released the B560 motherboards πŸ™„

opaque saddle
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i got x570 instead

soft dove
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I am now satisfied with my B560m Aorus Pro motherboard, it is an excellent motherboard that allows my RAM to overclock.

opaque saddle
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i paid a premium for my parts coz i wanna use it for 5-6 years at least

soft dove
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Instead of it being stuck at 2666mhz when using a B460 mobo.

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Ah awesome.

opaque saddle
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their intel Z range motherboard is costing too much

soft dove
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Premium from where? What place?

opaque saddle
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i got my ram from umart

soft dove
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I usually buy my stuff off of PCCaseGear, Centrecom, etc.

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Ah Umart, I bought my RAM sticks there.

opaque saddle
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i paid 255 for 3000mhz 32gb ram (2x16GB)

soft dove
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Lockdown is is pretty shitty so these delivery for PC components made it worse.

opaque saddle
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and the price goes down a lot afterward

soft dove
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Damn, 255, alrighty.

opaque saddle
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that was 7months before lockdown

soft dove
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You're doing more than just.. gaming right?

opaque saddle
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Video editing on the current machine

soft dove
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Nice, what'd you do for a living?

opaque saddle
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but i preferred 32GB of ram coz 16gb isn't enough for gaming... i play cities skylines

soft dove
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I am thinking of upgrading my 16gb of RAM to 32gb of RAM for video game development in the future.

opaque saddle
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i'm a uni student

soft dove
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Awesome.

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I'm doing TAFE, I think Uni isn't the choice for me at the moment.

soft dove
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16GB is enough for all games out there.

opaque saddle
soft dove
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Oh my gawd.

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How are you utilising your entire RAM memory, lmao.

opaque saddle
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it was on loading screen tho. i was gaming with my main card and using my 2nd gpu for background tasks

soft dove
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Damn, what's your specs? I am curious.

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So you have 32gb 3000mhz of RAM.

opaque saddle
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wait up

soft dove
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I can see that you have an RTX 2070 Super, that's hella good.

opaque saddle
soft dove
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And a GT 960? Oh.

opaque saddle
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cant be bothered to type in

soft dove
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Bro sick setup, like it. Damn buying the SSDs must've been expensive.

opaque saddle
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it was cheap tho

soft dove
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Cheap how lol?

opaque saddle
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i think the 870 EVO 1TB was like 104AUD

soft dove
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I can see them being sold above $100.

opaque saddle
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but i got it for 114 or something

soft dove
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Wait is this a m.2 NVME ssd or one of those SATA SSDs?

opaque saddle
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the 970 evo plus is nvme

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i use my HDD to store my archived data

soft dove
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Because I went with a shitty priced Seagate Barracuda 512gb SSD for $98 πŸ™„

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This was before I started learning a lot about PC components.

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So I ripped myself off during that time.

opaque saddle
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i reckon samsung is always better except for the Samsung 980 (980, not pro)

soft dove
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Yeah they're the best quality SSDs out there.

opaque saddle
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if you want a archive drive, go for seagate expansion 4TB for 90AUD

soft dove
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Although I wanna save up, I am thinking of getting a 1tb SSD at one point.

opaque saddle
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that is a barracuda 4TB inside the case. it does the job for storing data

soft dove
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Maybe at the end of the year when pricing is much better, because thats where I bought most of my PC components.

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Man I was lucky to buy my GTX 1660 at $320 before it's pricing skyrocketed to like $600+

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Now at the end of the year, I am hoping to get an RTX 3060 Ti or 3070 at least.

opaque saddle
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i saw the 3070 was like 1144 AUD

soft dove
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Where?

opaque saddle
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will always aim for branded one

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i found it from OzBargain

soft dove
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I checked PCPP (if you know that), that some variants of the RTX 3070 Ti is cheaper than a 3070 lol.

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Like the Inno3D RTX 3070 Ti is cheaper than it's 3070 variant.

opaque saddle
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pccasegear was doing a terrible job shipping to where i used to live

soft dove
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so maybe I should go with that instead of a normal 3070.

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Oh they're excellent for me.

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I hate their GST Tax shit though, pricing stuff for $80 more, like what?

soft dove
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So their shipping is πŸ‘

opaque saddle
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i was using inno3d like 15-20 years ago

soft dove
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Damn, you're old lmao.

opaque saddle
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not great but not too bad

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coz my dad gave me a desktop when i was a kid

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so i'm 24 this year

soft dove
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Awesome dad you have.

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Damn i'm 19, how is life in your 20s man?

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I feel legit lost rn.

opaque saddle
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tired but going for uni so i can get a job after the pandemic

soft dove
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Yeah good idea.

opaque saddle
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i heard PCCG is great unless you live in VIC

soft dove
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Oh, opposite for me.

opaque saddle
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coz it used to cost so much to ship up north to where i live

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i mean i used to live

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like $16 for auspost option and 29 for the case

soft dove
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have you bought things at centrecom before?

opaque saddle
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it is fine

soft dove
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I like their way of appreciating us if we buy stuff over $100.

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It's actually awesome.

opaque saddle
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i bought the MX300 from centrecom. they used to have free shipping for >50

soft dove
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What's an MX300?

opaque saddle
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CRUCIAL MX300 SSD

soft dove
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oh an SSD, alright.

opaque saddle
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IIRC i paid for 104 (w/ shipping) or something for a 275GB

soft dove
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Bruh.

opaque saddle
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it is a TLC SSD tho. i bought it like 5 years ago

soft dove
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You're not using that anymore?

opaque saddle
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still using it today

soft dove
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Oh lol.

opaque saddle
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but i use it for my other machine

soft dove
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Alright, awesome talking to you man. Have a good one πŸ‘

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I'm gonna go play GTA online rn.

opaque saddle
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gonna play bf1

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cya

soft dove
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Wanna send a friend request? It was cool to talk to you again.

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Mb, it would be cool to see you again'

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Oh nvm, have a good one.

opaque saddle
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err I don't add friends on discord nor in game, including GTA V or origin. Will always be in the chat

soft dove
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It's all goods.

quick locust
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6600xt seems eh

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But people will buy it anyway cause shortage

wintry prairie
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OK

latent light
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If there wasn't a shortage and it was still priced at $379 MSRP it would be DOA lol

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It should be $249 imo

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Or $299 at most

quick locust
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Yeah

latent light
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I think its a good replacement to the RX 580

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Its a little bit faster than a RTX 3060

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Surprisingly, given it only has a 128-bit memory bus

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I think the 32MB Infinity Cache is what saves its performance

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Gigabyte been fucking up a lot lately

quick locust
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Oof

latent light
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I bought a Gigabyte motherboard and GPU, both have issues
Their 750W PSU has been exploding on people
And now this

plain stag
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For some reason ReBAR isn't enabled for me

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I have a bios update that supports it

wintry prairie
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Turn it on in Bios

plain stag
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And coincidentally its a gigabyte motherboard

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XD

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I did

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Well, i got the option of Disabled and Auto

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I didn't have time last night to mess about more

quick locust
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My gigabyte board has been working fine

plain stag
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Cuz well, it was 4.30 in the morning

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XD

quick locust
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Z390 aorus pro

plain stag
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I should have the necessary bios update on it

wintry prairie
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Try disable

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Its worked for some

latent light
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All USB ports on my Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 only work at 2.0 bandwidth despite having 3.1gen2 and 3.0

plain stag
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I have F33h installed, and they introduced ReBAR in F32 version

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Ill update to latest bios first

latent light
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Manually setting up RAM in BIOS is glitchy

wintry prairie
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What gpu do you have?

plain stag
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Cuz it was disabled either way

latent light
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Gigabyte RX 580

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Fans act crazy sometimes

wintry prairie
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@plain stag What gpu?

plain stag
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3070ti

wintry prairie
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oh yeah

plain stag
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I'll prob work with newer bios

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For whatever reason, they removed that bios version from the download page

plain stag
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F33h version is nonexistent

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There is a F34, so ill update it

wintry prairie
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Check your system setup in nvidia control panel

plain stag
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I did

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It was disabled

wintry prairie
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Do you have Precision X1

plain stag
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Hmm, can precision x1 update non evga vbios

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Cuz i might also need a vbios update

wintry prairie
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Do you have it installed already?

quick locust
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You can also use nvflash

plain stag
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Not yet

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I'm at work, so ill have to do all that when i get home

wintry prairie
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You have to have it to enable BAR

plain stag
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Its a palit 3070ti

wintry prairie
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oh, thought evga . . .

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RIP

plain stag
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It's nice that i can save the vbios in their tool

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Yeah

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Thats why i asked if x1 can update non evga cards

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I'll install the newer bios first, and then I'll see if i have to mess about with vbios

wintry prairie
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It doesn't seem to help much though, especially at lower resolutions.

plain stag
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Eh, might as well and enable it

wintry prairie
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Let me know how it goes.

atomic jackal
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should i be worried about ''power reporting deviation''

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?

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it says it is %65 right now

latent light
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Intel Core i7-12700K Alder-Lake-S desktop CPU sample spotted, 12 cores and 20 threads with 25 MB cache

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8 big cores with hyperthreading, 4 small cores without hyperthreading

eager whale
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According to leaks*

molten coral
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sure

latent light
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Z690 motherboards could start at $200

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Cheaper than a kit of DDR5 RAM but still...

molten coral
eager whale
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99% sure yes

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On youtube there's a video and at ultra you'll get 58-71 FPS

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At 1080p

molten coral
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What is the price?

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It's a laptop right?

eager whale
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i5-10300H is a laptop CPU

molten coral
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Personally I would look for something with 16GB of RAM

latent light
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i9-12900K could cost $800, i7-12700K about $450

molten coral
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKHmDJ6hE1E I would say this is a good video to see what you would get

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eager whale
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I'd say 16GB RAM is the recommended for 2042

molten coral
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Just look if you can upgrade the RAM to 16GB in dual channel (2 sticks)

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if I've to believe that video it seems to be fine for most things

quick locust
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yeah it still is

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been decent for a long time

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more than xbox series X and ps5 (xsx has 16 GB, but this is still shared between cpu/gpu as its an apu) though theirs has more bandwidth

latent light
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XSX has a good amount more bandwidth than Navi 21 GPUs

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Memory setup is weird tho

quick locust
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well

latent light
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10GB is high speed and 6GB is average

quick locust
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some of it is faster

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the 6 gb is slower than on desktop cards

latent light
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2GB of the slow memory reserved for OS

quick locust
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yeah

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1 core as well iirc

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so 7 cores for games

latent light
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I hear games can still make use of the full 8 cores on consoles

quick locust
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but yeah you'd still have more memory in a desktop, though lower bandwidth

latent light
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The 10GB is used mainly for VRAM iirc

quick locust
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"From a game developer's perspective, we expect a lot of them to actually stick with the eight cores because their current games are running with the distribution often set to seven cores and seven worker threads,"

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hm

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so it can allow 8

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but game devs use 7 normally

latent light
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Which is why XSX is pretty good at 4K, since the VRAM has a high memory bus

quick locust
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well its both vram and ram

latent light
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Navi 21 is held back by its memory bus at high resolution

quick locust
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though it'd constantly swap out

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"And so for them to go wider, for them to go to 14 hardware threads, it means that they have the system to do it, but then, you have to have workloads that split even more effectively across them. And so we're actually finding that the vast majority of developers - talking with them about the their choices for launch - the vast majority are going to go with the SMT disabled and the higher clock."

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old game engines go brr

latent light
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So most game engines prefer 7 cores without multithreading at higher clocks

quick locust
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yeah, navi 21 could use more bandwidth, was surprised at launch that nvidia had more bandwidth since previously it was other way around

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most games are also still designed around the weaksauce jaguar

latent light
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Does Jaguar have the 4 module = 8 cores controversy?

opaque saddle
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i thought it is 8 broken "cores"

latent light
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Nah it's 2 cores in each module that share the same resources

quick locust
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yeah they lost lawsuit over that

opaque saddle
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i mean... 2 cores in 1 module

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so "broken cores"

quick locust
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so they show up as 3 and 4 core now

latent light
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The didn't lose lawsuit they just came to an agreement

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They probably would have won lol

quick locust
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could, i dunno

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didnt really matter in the end i guess

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since ryzen is a massive jump over previous

latent light
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Zen4 could bring that same jump

quick locust
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hopefully yeah

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zen 1 looks old now

opaque saddle
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holy... look at this thing

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60000mah powerbank

supple bane
quick locust
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yeah, but comparatively

supple bane
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1700x is still pretty good.

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1600 af too.

dry pike
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Have a 20000mah powerbank, the maximum I can get on a plane which seemed handy.

quick locust
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isnt 1600af zen+

supple bane
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it might be actually.

quick locust
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iirc it is

opaque saddle
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i have a 99.9Wh powerbank

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so... 27000mah

quick locust
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i dont see many ryzen 1600 users anymore

opaque saddle
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it is heavy as a brick... but 60000mah is just massive..

quick locust
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my laptop could use that

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jk

opaque saddle
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i got a 87w powerbank

quick locust
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it has low battery life even with a low power cpu and no dedicated gpu

opaque saddle
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so it can output up to 87w with a single cable

quick locust
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much more than what my laptop needs

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45w barrel charger

opaque saddle
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my laptop needs a 87w charger

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so i got the 87w powerbank

quick locust
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its a ryzen 3700U and no dedicated gpu

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so doesn't take much power, though battery is tiny

opaque saddle
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i heard you can technically charge it with a 15w powerbank

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but it is really slow

quick locust
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yeah

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thats like my phone lmao

latent light
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I got a 40,000 mAh power bank

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Has so many ports too

opaque saddle
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it is massive...

quick locust
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mine is just 12000 but has solar panel

latent light
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Same

opaque saddle
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20000mah is heavy enough

latent light
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Solar panel only 2 watts

quick locust
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and a cigarette starter

latent light
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Lol

quick locust
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and two leds to use it as flashlight

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pretty cool

latent light
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Mine has a decent flashlight

quick locust
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hm

latent light
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6600XT proves how well RDNA2 scales as you lower core count and resources

quick locust
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yeah it seems ok

latent light
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It would still do well even with 64-bit memory bus lol

quick locust
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too expensive for what it is

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but the hardware itself is ok

latent light
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Yeah I hope to see the 6600XT under $300 in the next year

alpine sapphire
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hello, do you think that with a gtx 1060 6gb graphics card it runs well battlefield 2042?

opaque saddle
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don't know

silent oasisBOT
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Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for the full release of Battlefield 2042.

latent light
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It should but not very well

quick locust
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noone knows yet, but we'll find out

latent light
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I'd expect 1080p low/medium settings for 60 fps

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Tbh low-end PC gaming is becoming more and more redundant

dry pike
quick locust
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uses same power as a gtx 1080, the top end card of 2016

latent light
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20W lower TDP than the 1080

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And just single 8 pin

quick locust
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theyre both 180W ish

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which you can do just fine with a single 8 pin

latent light
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Navi 2 averages under what TDP suggests

quick locust
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not 6600xt

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hits tdp pretty spot on

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not that its super high but

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just funny to think that the low/mid now uses same as a top end card in 2016

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with gtx 1070 msrp

latent light
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Companies are pushing silicon harder out of box

quick locust
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not really much of low end anymore

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besides on laptops

latent light
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Low-end is pointless now

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Just get a console

quick locust
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still far better than integrated

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consoles are different market

arctic crag
latent light
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GTX 1650 costs as much as a PS5 digital lmfao

quick locust
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as the msrp of it

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but good luck finding any ps5 at msrp

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only console in stock here is series S, i guess not many wants it

arctic crag
latent light
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The performance that new consoles brought just make low-end and even mid-range gaming PC pretty pointless

quick locust
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not really

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different markets and needs

arctic crag
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The best thing to do rn is save your fucking for the next year

toxic zealot
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ps5 here is more expensive than rtx 3060

quick locust
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and if that was everything then consoles would be pointless too due to streaming

arctic crag
toxic zealot
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i remember someone telling me that streaming servies will replace buying hardware

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lol

latent light
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Iirc only like 10% of the world has internet fast enough to stream games lol

quick locust
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yeah they won't

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like consoles doesn't replace pc

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or mobile

toxic zealot
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fiber not cheap

quick locust
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different markets

arctic crag
toxic zealot
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ye stuff like that

quick locust
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and geforce now

toxic zealot
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stadia is disaster tho

quick locust
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soon xcloud

arctic crag
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I think it’s a bit early

toxic zealot
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streaming games also look blurry ofc

quick locust
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yeah, tried it with a few games on gfn

toxic zealot
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since native actual footage takes gigabytes of space per second

arctic crag
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Not everyone has 5G 100mb speed

quick locust
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much worse quality

toxic zealot
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whats the throughpout for 1080p coming to display?

quick locust
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5G is faster than 100mbps

latent light
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Most common internet speed is under 20 Mbps lmao

quick locust
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you can hit that with 4g

arctic crag
latent light
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I only got 3 Mbps at my old house

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I have 50 Mbps now

toxic zealot
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each uncompressed 1080p frame is 5MB

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apparently

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so what you see on your pc

arctic crag
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I have 30mb

quick locust
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average internet speed here is 50 mbps

arctic crag
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How much do you guys pay

toxic zealot
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i have 1 gb fiber

quick locust
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i pay 40 usd for 1 gigabit fiber

toxic zealot
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i pay like

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25 usd for that

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more like 22

quick locust
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theres a pricing war going on though so might lower

arctic crag
toxic zealot
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no one prices fiber higher much at this speed here

quick locust
#

infrastructure in my country is enough for 71,3% to get 1 gigabit if they wanted to

toxic zealot
#

there are competitons between like 3 companies

#

for fiber

quick locust
#

some of the islands are lower though

latent light
#

You can't find 1 Gbit fiber in the USA for under $100

#

Except maybe a few cities

toxic zealot
#

idk

#

maybe because building costs in poland are low

#

so digging might be cheaper

quick locust
#

island of bornholm has the slowest internet here with 11% having 10 mbps or less

arctic crag
#

1gb fiber isn’t available for normal citizens here

toxic zealot
#

digging is prob 90%

arctic crag
#

It’s like for companies

toxic zealot
#

of fiber cost

latent light
#

1 Gbit internet is overkill for average users anyway

toxic zealot
#

i can get 10gb

#

for not that much more

quick locust
#

yeah but its nice to have

latent light
#

I'm fine with 50 Mbps

toxic zealot
#

100usd for 10gb

quick locust
#

though its very useful to have more in local internet, i might upgrade to 2.5 gig switch eventually

#

and 2.5 gig nic

#

due to my NAS storages

toxic zealot
#

so we got 10x faster speeds for same price here

arctic crag
#

Max speed here is 100mb for a normal user and you pay like 20$

#

Min speed is 30mb you pay 10$

quick locust
#

71% of country can get 1000 mbps for 250 kr

toxic zealot
#

it feels like

#

fiber companies here

#

just try to force people

#

to switch

#

away from mobile guys

quick locust
#

well

#

mobile stinks in comparison

toxic zealot
#

offering similar price

#

and way faster speed with no limits

quick locust
#

mobile usually limited as well

arctic crag
#

Mobile sucks ass

quick locust
#

my cellular

#

at house

arctic crag
#

I tried using it once on my pc my ping was like 100

toxic zealot
#

mobile ping here is like

#

50-60

#

maybe

#

depends

#

speeds depend a lot too

quick locust
#

my wifi

toxic zealot
#

might be between 10-40

quick locust
#

then wired

#

this is why i use wired everywhere

arctic crag
#

Wired ftw

latent light
#

@quick locust why does WiFi drop off so much for you

quick locust
#

because walls and floor kill it i guess

arctic crag
#

Who actually uses WiFi at home anyway

quick locust
#

i only use wifi on my phone

arctic crag
#

I mean on pc

storm osprey
#

i use wifi when i game in my front room

#

granted i dont play something like a mp fps in my front room

#

plus

#

thats what i get over wifi anyway

quick locust
#

i can get that in same room as router

#

well im limited to 500 upload but yeah

storm osprey
#

this is 1 room over, 1 wall

quick locust
#

but as soon as another room, rip wifi

storm osprey
#

shouldnt be THAT bad?

quick locust
#

some people have ethernet wall sockets

#

which is odd, ive never seen it in person

midnight crypt
#

its very common in newer houses

#

depending on where you live ofc

arctic crag
#

Is steelseries still reliable?

#

I haven’t checked their mouses in a while

#

I had a rival 300 back then in 2016 lasted 3 years

supple bane
quick locust
#

not really a thing here

#

seem like american thing more

#

they also have hollow walls a lot anyway

midnight crypt
#

nah im a meatball person

storm osprey
quick locust
#

people punching though their wall in videos or falling through them

#

and im like

#

you'd break everything here

#

im danish and it seems uncommon here

#

even coax wall sockets are

storm osprey
distant oar
#

what do you guys think about the new Nvidia driver? anyone did try it and how is like the Performance is there any stuttering or fps drops?

proud trellis
storm osprey
#

the only way i would even consider a steel series is for a large mouse and if their shape works for you

storm osprey
#

updated list from same guy

storm osprey
quick locust
#

not really looked at their stuff

storm osprey
#

viper mini and viper wireless are probably the best for the price (especially viper mini)

proud trellis
#

neither

midnight crypt
proud trellis
#

i havent looked at their stuff for a while

midnight crypt
#

for mice reviews

quick locust
#

finalmouse i would never like

#

too small and holes are horrible for dust and cat hair

#

and too light

storm osprey
#

the new razer orichi v2 is fantastic as well

#

oh the bugha brand in based tier is a joke btw

arctic crag
# storm osprey

wow i remember back in 2015,2016 they were one of the best out there

storm osprey
#

steel series?

arctic crag
#

yes

storm osprey
#

ehh, they were popular by the mainstream

#

but the mainstream recommends corsair mice too

#

which are pretty shit..

quick locust
#

I'd just want a decent size wired mouse

arctic crag
#

Also i still wouldn't buy razer products because their software policy

quick locust
#

something better than a G502 maybe eventually

#

but it is fine rn

arctic crag
#

G502 is trash

storm osprey
#

see, the mainstream recommends g502 all the time

quick locust
#

its alright

#

i'd want a different mouse shape though

arctic crag
#

i guess it's 130+g?

quick locust
#

no idea

storm osprey
#

@quick locust why wired?

arctic crag
#

which is pretyy heavy

quick locust
#

no reason to use wireless on a desktop

storm osprey
#

g502 is like 110g without the weights in it

quick locust
#

plus i use a bungee

storm osprey
#

i used to paracord and use a bungee, wireless is so much nicer

quick locust
#

i have tried both wireless headset and mouse

#

dont want that again

arctic crag
#

Wireless is a must when it comes to mouses

storm osprey
#

i think youre missing out on a wireless mouse imo

quick locust
#

nah i prefer wired

#

i would just leave a wireless one plugged in always anyway

arctic crag
#

You can buy a g302 or whatever they call it for less than 50$ and it's wireless

quick locust
#

like i did with my wireless headset

#

and my previous mouse

arctic crag
#

Imagine buying a wireless keyboard

storm osprey
#

at this point, ill never go back to a wired mouse

quick locust
#

i see wireless being pretty pointless on a desk setup

storm osprey
#

the freedom of not worrying about a wire is just too good

quick locust
#

cool with laptops though

#

then again i prefer wired on everything, on my ear buds for my phone as well

storm osprey
#

i dont think it matter for desktop or laptop

#

you move a mouse, and not having a wired attached just gets rid of any outside interference

arctic crag
#

In my really humble opinion you should get a wireless mouse and headset

quick locust
#

wireless headsets suck due to a2p/hsp

storm osprey
#

even with an aftermarket paracord and a bungee, youre still gonna drag/feel the weight of a wire

quick locust
#

weight of wire is nothing

#

even a g502 is pretty lightweight to me

storm osprey
#

when its static, but you move the mouse, so you also move the wire, which then builds momentum

arctic crag
#

well you're kinda right also it's expensive you can't find a good wireless headset under 100$

quick locust
#

but most mice are

storm osprey
#

the only way i would understand wanting wired is if youre a wrist aimer

arctic crag
#

good point

storm osprey
#

like i said, ive done everything to get a wired mouse to not bother me, but since i play at such a low sensitivity it was always a problem

arctic crag
#

400dpi?

quick locust
#

I play at around 2800 dpi

storm osprey
#

dpi alone doesnt tell the whole story

quick locust
#

i use wrist mostly

arctic crag
quick locust
#

though my previous mouse was super low dpi and was non adjustable

storm osprey
#

to do a 360 in game i would have to move my mouse 19 inches

quick locust
#

2700

#

my bad

arctic crag
#

100 won't make that much

quick locust
#

my previous mouse was 1000 ish and non adjustable

storm osprey
#

yea but you could change in game sensitivity to compenstate (hence how dpi isnt the end all stat)

arctic crag
#

I perfer doing somthing between and 180 and 360

#

360 is kinda fast for me

quick locust
#

i just use way higher i guess

#

but i use wrist

#

so i dont move it as far

storm osprey
#

in that case yea, stay wired

arctic crag
#

i use 8% in bf1 with 400 dpi

storm osprey
#

and thats how you get away with a heavy ass mouse too

quick locust
#

i can move cursor about 2x my screen with with my wrist

#

well

#

1.5 ish maybe

#

i dunno why logitech decided 12000 was a good idea

#

does anyone actually use it

arctic crag
#

it's 16k with their hero sensor lol

quick locust
#

aiming without even moving wrist

storm osprey
#

max dpi? its just a large number to get smooth brains to go "large number equal good"

#

yea i just looked up the "best gaming mice" list from 3 sites, and they are horrible...

quick locust
#

but yeah i use wrist, i dont really understand people that use whole arm

storm osprey
quick locust
#

then again i grew up with not much space for mouse

arctic crag
storm osprey
arctic crag
#

i know the mouse but i don't remember the name

storm osprey
#

looks like a ripoff master mouse

quick locust
#

well i snipe with 1200 to 2700

#

i guess i could try low dpi for a bit

storm osprey
#

it will suck

#

but everyone i get to switch says they saw an improvement

quick locust
#

means i have to use the horrible logitech software though

arctic crag
#

I switched from 800 to 400

quick locust
#

oh man 400 is so slow

arctic crag
#

Kinda sucked at first but then i got used to it

quick locust
#

this feels so horribly slow

arctic crag
#

ofc it will

#

Because you're using 2700 dpi

quick locust
#

feels like those old thinkpads with so low dpi

arctic crag
#

hahaha

storm osprey
#

You don’t have to change dpi, that’s mostly for windows. You should keep a dpi and only change in game sensitivity.

quick locust
#

yeah, though many games dont have the option

#

but i can just press a button on the mouse to switch

arctic crag
quick locust
#

time to try bfv at 400

#

aka time to get sniped

storm osprey
#

I haven’t changed my dpi in 5 years.

quick locust
#

i rarely change mine

#

i actually went up from 2000 to 2700 some years ago

arctic crag
quick locust
#

so ive went higher in dpi over time not lower

#

and prev mouse was 1000

latent light
#

Crypto is safe currency KEK

arctic crag
#

they keep it safe there

quick locust
#

i thought this isnt as bad as i thought

#

then i found out ghub auto sets it to 1200 as minimum when switching to bfv

molten coral
#

I use 3200 DPI

#

I can do a 360 with just a slight movement

storm osprey
#

nacho is the worst

molten coral
#

yes

slate rivet
#

i have to agree as he doesn't like nachos

quick locust
#

hm, my gpu usage is at 50-60% in bfv

#

still runs 100+ fps though

slate rivet
#

noice

quick locust
#

at 1440p

slate rivet
#

rdr2 time.. let's see if i can rack up a bounty

#

or bottle of wine and csgo?

quick locust
#

not as good as garuda i guess

#

but still decent looking

keen shore
#

Can someone tell me why is my cpu usage higher than gpu usage?

slate rivet
#

whats your cpu and gpu?

keen shore
#

Ryzen 5 3600
rtx 3070

supple bane
#

in bf.

#

thats normal

#

especially if you are playing at 1080p

slate rivet
#

rdr2 brings out bad things lmfao

#

can't even go into town without doing 5 people in

keen shore
#

Im getting 120-140 on lowest settings

#

With the 3070

quick locust
#

I have same with 8700K and 2080 ti at 1440p

#

Ultra

#

Higher cpu usage than gpu

#

But still runs 100+ so still nice

keen shore
#

The difference of percentage between the two usages is above %20

#

Im also experiencing frame drops

atomic jackal
#

how do i set my bios to measure the aio fan instead of the pump?

#

it says "cpu fan : 4000 rpm" but on the package the fans can only go to 1700 rpm

#

so this leads me to think that the bios is trying to measure the pump and its sending a dummy value to the mobo

quick locust
#

Change headers

#

You put pump on cpu fan

#

That's why

#

It doesn't really matter which you use beside for monitoring

storm osprey
#

i always thought you wanted pump to cpu fan

quick locust
#

You could want to since you'd be warned if it wasn't running

storm osprey
#

and since a pump is more likely to fail

#

and less likely to notice

quick locust
#

If you enable the warning that is

molten coral
#

because of the CPU

atomic jackal
quick locust
#

However on some boards like mine you can set warning on any header

storm osprey
#

ahhh

quick locust
#

Yeah on motherboard

storm osprey
#

i thought cpu warning was default

atomic jackal
#

theres only "cpu fan" and "cha fan"

atomic jackal
quick locust
#

Just change the cables around

storm osprey
#

you should have a cpu header

quick locust
#

It's just headers

#

Nothing complicated

atomic jackal
#

which cables

#

im kinda confused rn

quick locust
#

The 3 pin or 4 pin cables for fan and pump

atomic jackal
#

so if i set the value to "full speed" on pump header it wouldn't affect the fans?

storm osprey
#

theres a chance hes using an usb controlled aio

quick locust
#

But if your motherboard only has warning on cpu fan header I'd leave it as is

#

Each header is separate control

molten coral
#

in the left corner

atomic jackal
molten coral
#

@prime jasper

quick locust
quick locust
#

Your pc has no issues

atomic jackal
atomic jackal
quick locust
#

You can use hwinfo64 to put the other fans on your overlay

#

On rtss

molten coral
#

I mean just watch the video

#

Don't want to be an ass but I posted the video so you can look at it not me.

quick locust
arctic crag
#

I’ve found an RGB calculator

#

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

alpine anvil
quick locust
#

no errors

alpine anvil
#

No errors yet, not sure if I hope for some or not

latent light
#

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#

Same chip as RTX 3060, only 70W TDP lol

plain stag
quick locust
#

11

plain stag
# quick locust 11

Have you tried with dx12? Last night when i got a 3070ti, i tried both, had about the same gpu usage like you, and i had about 100 fps average, turned on dx12, gpi usage went to 100% and i legit gained at least 30 fps more on fjell

#

I didn't do extensive testing, didn't have time, but i was pleasantly surprised that i gained so much with dx12, while when i had a 1070, performance worsened for me

rocky marlin
dry pike
rocky marlin
prime jasper
#

Can someone shoot these following guns while driving a vehicle: rifles, shotgun, SMG, and LMG?

wintry prairie
#

Driving, I don't think so.

#

Riding, yes.

wintry prairie
#

Me too, I love technology

soft dove
#

Does your name stand for Hong Kong or just HK.

#

Or something else than what I typed in.

wintry prairie
#

@soft dove

HK is in reference to HK-47 (51, 55 . . .) who is an Assassin droid in the Star Wars Universe, first appearing in KOTOR:

alpine anvil
#

Ah I thought it was towards the gun company

#

interesting to know

soft dove
#

HK-47 sounds like a gun tho.

alpine anvil
#

it does, because of the company lol SCwhatiscatwant

graceful plover
#

Hey can someone help me here

#

Am looking to purchase a console. This is my first time getting a console. So I need to know what are the other accessories i need to purchase along with the console?

molten bramble
#

The console will come with everything that you need for basic gameplay.

frigid wharf
#

I would go with a PS5 or Xbox Series. I have the Series X, but both are hard to get at the moment.

molten bramble
#

Their business model relies upon you as the consumer easily adapting to the product, because they make less off your purchase of the hardware and more off the money spent on the software games/DLCs.

frigid wharf
#

Also note the Xbox controller take AA, they're not rechargeable. You'll have to buy an elite controller for that.

opaque saddle
#

the older xbox controller takes both rechargeable AA and non rechargeable AA

frigid wharf
#

The rechargeable AA are the cheapest way to go. They're not hard to find in store's. But the series controller are still the same, they're not internally built in batteries.

white crater
#

!!specs

opaque saddle
#

!!specs

silent oasisBOT
#

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for the full release of Battlefield 2042.

shut tartan
# alpine anvil

i have the same cpu,why you running tests?something happened?

alpine anvil
#

It's RAM tests, I've been having crashes

#

My PC has always been problematic but only mild, now games crash and freeze

#

No RAM issues in the end though

shut tartan
#

when i encountered similar issues,they usually ended up to be related with psu or gpu

molten bramble
alpine anvil
#

Nope

alpine anvil
opaque saddle
#

What about storage issues?

alpine anvil
#

No storage issues exactly but the errors I've gotten (I get blue screens along side the regular game crashed) point to memory or drive issues

opaque saddle
#

Or do you wanna repair windows

alpine anvil
#

I checked for basic drive health, there was no problem, but I need a utility that properly checks them

stable mountain
#

might just be a failing stick anyways/

opaque saddle
#

Coz the problem I got before was ram usage spikes and screen freezes

stable mountain
#

my W10 install has a wack bug where if one of the spinning rust drives spins up the entire system freezes and things get out of sync

opaque saddle
#

I have entered check windows partition into the terminal end it works

stable mountain
#

which normally is fine, but my firewire (yes, ancient) audio interface loses it sync with the pc

shut tartan
#

i assume

alpine anvil
#

I tried and saw nothing out of the ordinary

#

I doubt that too since my game (MWR is the latest) will crash just from loading a mission

#

And I played the game months ago with no issues

shut tartan
#

good luck finding the issue,it will be a headache

#

i mean the process

#

i assume you ran some quick test for the memmorys but if so even if the test said,pass

#

they might be faulty

#

or at least 1 of them

#

or they might actually be ok

alpine anvil
#

It was a 3 hour test, no errors

#

since I'm rebuilding my PC anyway I was honestly hoping to find out it'd be the problem but it's not :(

#

oh well

#

if it's software then it's okay

shut tartan
#

if u dont forget ,let me know what was the issue when you find it

#

try to uninstall the gpu driver and reinstall one of the old drivers,quick process

molten bramble
#

If it's hanging on a game, likely a driver issue if you're not thermal throttling or OC'd to instability.

shut tartan
#

we talked about this already

molten bramble
#

And?

shut tartan
#

he has no oc and the thermals are fine

molten bramble
#

You came into the conversation late, but thanks.

molten bramble
#

@alpine anvil Do you BSOD at all or just game crash solely?

alpine anvil
#

It is inconsistent, also depends on the game (more BSODs or more crashes)

molten bramble
#

Do you BSOD without a game running?

alpine anvil
#

I believe I BSOD'd once with MWR but Modern Warfare 2019 does it a lot

alpine anvil
molten bramble
#

k

alpine anvil
#

No problems when there's not a game running

shut tartan
#

seems like load dependent,the more demanding task/game you trow at it the more bsods/crashes you get

alpine anvil
#

Which is telling, I just don't know what to do with the information though swagsad

shut tartan
#

again im leaning towards psu/gpu

alpine anvil
#

Yeah

molten bramble
#

Have you messed with any voltages on the motherboard at all?

#

i.e. in the bios

alpine anvil
#

No, I haven't touched anything like that

stable mountain
#

maybe one of the VRM's is failing?

#

motherboards can slowly cook themselves over time

shut tartan
molten bramble
#

What is your motherboard? Does it have a LED code display on it? If so, have you grabbed the codes when this happens?

alpine anvil
#

I believe it's the Z-170 HD3

#

I'll look at it tomorrow, I haven't seen anything during my issues

#

(It only has lights afaik)

molten bramble
#

Older 1151 board I see

alpine anvil
#

Yeah that's it

#

running with a slightly old i7 6700k

wintry prairie
#

Aha! I knew it!

shut tartan
#

true champ cpu

molten bramble
stable mountain
#

might just be dried caps at the edge of being in spec

shut tartan
#

i have better mobo but the same cpu

#

im using it since 2015

#

0issues atm

alpine anvil
molten bramble
#

Levi may be right in the PSU, but it could be a MB issue all the same--Gigabyte has dubious quality in some products, especially these older budget builds.

shut tartan
#

or memory

alpine anvil
#

My build wasn't supposed to be budget pepecat

#

But yeah

molten bramble
#

You don't have a readout on this board.

alpine anvil
#

Wait, what's a readout?

molten bramble
#

the LED display

shut tartan
#

i think hes reffering to those fancy stuff yeah..

molten bramble
#

Shows you a code like that.

alpine anvil
#

Oh okay, I wasn't sure

#

That would be real ni e to have

#

Nice*

shut tartan
#

annyways dont give up on it and fix it cause the 6700k is far to be old enough to be useless

#

it was the recommended cpu for cp77

#

i love it

#

aged like a fine wine

molten bramble
#

the CPU is fine, that'll run solid.

#

This board is DDR3.

alpine anvil
#

Yeah the 6700k should be pretty good, I just don't know
I've said it a lot, this PC is "cursed* and always underperformed, I have looked into it quite a lot but I've never figured it out

#

I'm running DDR4

shut tartan
#

mine is ddr4

#

170x v3

alpine anvil
#

Iirc there are

#

Wait

#

Uh

#

No, that's my board

#

Maybe I'm really tired

shut tartan
#

i assume yours is also with ddr4

molten bramble
#

There may be two versions, but the manual seems to only indicated DDR3.

shut tartan
#

he just got the wrong pic

#

lol

#

nah actually it might be ddr3

alpine anvil
#

Yeah iirc there's a DDR3 and 4 version, but I think they're the same otherwise

#

I know it doesn't have the LED display

#

Lights but not a display

shut tartan
#

plus i saw on your pic you using ddr4 modules so thats not your mobo lol

molten bramble
#

There are two versions. Which one do you have?

alpine anvil
#

DDR4 version

molten bramble
#

k

shut tartan
molten bramble
#

So this one is yours then.

alpine anvil
alpine anvil
shut tartan
alpine anvil
#

oh okay

#

good

#

I was worried

shut tartan
#

you using an nvidia gpu?

molten bramble
shut tartan
#

to ensure the issues is not related to drivers/software conflicts that you can do pretty fast

alpine anvil
#

RTX 2080 with artifacting issues

shut tartan
#

waiitt whuaaaaat

shut tartan
#

well we have a winner

alpine anvil
#

I have clean reinstalled my driver's in the recent past and I updated mine tonight

shut tartan
#

lmfao

alpine anvil
#

the artifacting has been here for a year

shut tartan
#

well it got worse

alpine anvil
#

the crashing has been for 2 months~

shut tartan
#

still till you have a faulty gpu there is no point to search for other issues

molten bramble
#

What driver set are you on currently GPU-wise? Don't necessarily think it's a GPU hardware issue.

shut tartan
#

this is comedy

#

im out

alpine anvil
#

uh

molten bramble
#

Cya

alpine anvil
#

okay

shut tartan
#

like everyone pretends gpu artifacting is aight?

#

wtf

alpine anvil
#

but you know.. crashing while loading a game doesn't exactly mean that

#

it's not

molten bramble
#

Cool story, needs more dragons.

molten bramble
alpine anvil
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Yeah

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Just the ones that are offered in GeForce experience, no special or experimental ones

molten bramble
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When you say artifacting, in what way?

alpine anvil
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Well, 6~ months ago my screen would destroy itself in a scary set of squares. It has not happened since, but in games (in rare places) I see squares. Shadows and some SSR

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let me find the 6 months ago example

molten bramble
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Is it something that can be screenshot? Or is it purely surface?

alpine anvil
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This was my Discord application

molten bramble
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Gotcha.

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Might have a bad cable--have you swapped that out?

shut tartan
molten bramble
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And is the port solid/not loose?

prime jasper
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@wintry prairie ah ok thanks for telling me

molten bramble
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@shut tartan If you're not going to be helpful, you can see your way out. We don't need that kind of toxic attitude in this channel. Consider this your warning.

alpine anvil
shut tartan
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im toxic cause i was helping,i found the issue but none of you cares?

molten bramble
shut tartan
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interesting

alpine anvil
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I've had countless issues that have been clearly not related to my GPU, this is bunched in with them now

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So just, please

alpine anvil
molten bramble
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Again, change your attitude.

shut tartan
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once a gpu starts to artifact it means its dying ,with time it wont go away it will just get worse ,eventually it dies totally

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im building pc's since a decade

molten bramble
shut tartan
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i dont have an attitude

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but to me this is comedy

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this is not a debate from my pov

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after he said its artifactin

molten bramble
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Cool, thanks for the opinion.

shut tartan
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its a fact,not an opinion

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there is 0 gpus in exitence wich magically repaired itself after it started to artifact

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add to the fact that he is using it over a year

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and now its summer

alpine anvil
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I didn't say or imply that my GPU has repaired itself.

molten bramble
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None of this is factual. Settle down.

shut tartan
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so like having constant bdosd and freezes while gaming with an faulty gpu.is not a miracle

alpine anvil
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I've had freezes since before the RTX series existed

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the freezing crashes is just another problem to handle now.