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fallen harbor
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I think any i5 from seventh gen onwards or literally any ryzen cpu paired with something like rx580 or gtx1650super or higher will be enough to reach 60fps at 1080p

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I ask this because I know many people that run games at 20fps and think it's peak performance

weak girder
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if I had 20 fps on a game when I was 7 years old, I wouldnt give a fuck

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it would still be peak performance to me

supple bane
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some of soviet wombles old videos from like 7-10 years ago when he was playing day-z and such, i could feel him losing frames even through a phone

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like well below 30 fps

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but he didnt give a fuck, still built a massive channel from that

fallen harbor
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last year a friend of mine asked me for advice when he was picking parts for his pc and he ignored my suggestions because he thought it was too pricey so he got a gt1030 instead and says it's a godlike machine

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

supple bane
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you should show him how your 590 performs in comparison and see if he still thinks its a god like machine :P

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and then explain to him a real god like machine would probably get 4x even that

fallen harbor
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he cant tell the difference in frame rates

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just like most normies

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so idk if i can blame him

weak girder
fallen harbor
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we are talking about a super normie person

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like

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idk

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im not very surprised

weak girder
fallen harbor
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good for him i guess

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i wish i was satisfied with so little

supple bane
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if he is enjoying his rig. let him be happy i guess.

weak girder
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I can feel the difference between 60 and 55 really easily

some of my friends just dont give a shit

supple bane
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i generally will look up at my fps counter if i drop below 60

fallen harbor
# weak girder yeah idk why the less you know the lesd you feel

i'd say it's more related to experience rather than knowledge. I explained this to him but if he rarely plays videogames at all he wont pay attention to this and wont be able to tell the difference. The ability to tell different frame rates apart is trained, it varies from person to person

supple bane
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anything above 60 i can play with

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really fast paced shooters i struggle with anything below 80.

weak girder
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or shooters

supple bane
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but msfs2020 ill happily play that game with 20 fps

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because everything on the screen moves so slowly

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it looks just like a screenshot most of the time

weak girder
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In rdr2 45-60 fps is perfectly fine to me

fallen harbor
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i was playing bf1 yesterday and it was around 120fps so I limited it to 60 because i got a 60hz monitor anyways but when I did, it had some little drops like to 58 and it was so annoying i had to put it back to 120

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but try telling this to any normal person

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they will think youre paranoid

supple bane
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you should get a 144hz monitor

fallen harbor
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nah my pc isnt strong enough to reach 144 in most games

supple bane
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a rx 590 will be bottlenecked by a 1080p60 monitor

weak girder
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sometimes Im genuinely worried when some of my friends play on my pc even tho theres nothing to worry about

chrome skiff
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you can do gametime.maxvariablefps to 62 and it helps a lot of the kids for the same reason

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it will limit you to 62 fps or 65 what ever number you put in

fallen harbor
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also i want to stay in ignorance because I always hear you dont want to go back to 60hz after trying 144hz or 120hz, and if I want to remain in such big frame rate, I must update my pc soon and hardware is ridiculously overpriced here so the last thing I want to feel is like I'm lacking hardware power

weak girder
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I hqve a 1650 super but I hardly play any games these days but I got 70-80 fps on high in bf5 and it was fine to me

opal cliff
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I guess well for me would be around 50-60fps and i do have a i5 7500

weak girder
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well is 60+ fps to me in fps games

chrome skiff
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you can also put it in as a launch command so it does it automatically everytime you start the game

fallen harbor
opal cliff
fallen harbor
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yeah thats enough

opal cliff
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Oh cool

supple bane
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eeerm, im not sure about that actually

fallen harbor
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remember, we dont know how the game will run

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but i'd bet it'd run the game to a playable degree

supple bane
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im not sure it will get 60 fps with that cpu.

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a 4 core 4 thread cpu would struggle to reach 60 fps in bfv i believe, so in 2042 id say you have no chance

fallen harbor
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lets see

supple bane
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at least my old 7400 was pinned at 100% usage and was getting 40 fps

fallen harbor
supple bane
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on 1080p low

fallen harbor
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it reaches 60fps, sometimes 80fps, but yes, it has drops

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to like 52

chrome skiff
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you can clear up a lot of cpu usage turning down post processing to medium or low. The custom is the way to go.

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custom settings*

fallen harbor
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and considering he is expecting at least 40-50fps

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id say he's good

supple bane
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that was a poor example

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he doesnt actually enter a populated objective lmao

fallen harbor
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lets see another video

supple bane
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for example when he is outside D, i bet money if he was to go into D there they would drop to 30-40 fps

chrome skiff
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and even with that he is still hitting 100% cpu usage

fallen harbor
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i was gonna say it's on ultra settings but i think thats more gpu intensive than cpu

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GPU - MSI GTX 1070 8GB Gaming X

CPU - Intel Core I5 7400 (4x 3.5Ghz)

Motherboard - MSI MORTAR B250M

RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 ( 2x 4GB, 2400Mhz) CL14

Samsung S24D590L

Battlefield V
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GTX 1070 Gaming X
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1080p
60fps
msi
morta...

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this aslso doesnt look like a super populated server

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but it rarely goes below 60, if ever

chrome skiff
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also the beta

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he also dipped to 4 fps around 7 mins

fallen harbor
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i really dont think his pc will run bf2042 at 30fps

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i dont know if it will reach a steady 60

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but he said he'd be ok with 40 or 50

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and i think thats a possibility

supple bane
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we will have to wait and see

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my guess is that the cpu load is going to be huge in this game, bfv will be nothing in comparison

opal cliff
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I’ll honestly even take 30 just to play until I can eventually upgrade

fallen harbor
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I wouldn't worry that much

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this is only a gut feeling but I really think your pc will run the game at like from 45 to 65fps

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speaking of which

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I really should've gotten the 3600 instead of the 8400

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i was an idiot back then

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didnt know much about ryzen

opal cliff
supple bane
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we have all made mistakes like that.

fallen harbor
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if there's anything I'd upgrade first it'd be the cpu. Your gpu still holds up for 60fps in general id say

supple bane
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hell. i originally started with a pretty bad prebuilt. and like a year later my ram died, so me still not knowing much about computers..

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i saw that it had 2133mhz ram,

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and i thought that meant it HAD to be that speed, the price between the speeds was basically the same. so i could have gotten 3200mhz ram for the same price.

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but no, i brought 2133.

fallen harbor
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yikes

supple bane
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and then, not too long ago, it died again, i got an RMA from amazon and they offered me either a refund or a replacement

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at this point in time i knew a lot more about computers and understood what the speeds and stuff meant

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and i could have asked for a refund and spent that money on higher speed stuff for the same price again...

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free upgrade right!?

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but no! i chose the replacement option, it wasnt until like a few weeks later i realised what i had done.

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and im still stuck with 2133mhz ram to this day!

fallen harbor
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oof

supple bane
fallen harbor
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what cpu you got?

supple bane
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2600

fallen harbor
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nice

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another mistake i did was getting the rx590 instead of the 1660 or 1660 super. The later were more expensive but the 590 consumes a lot more

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I couldve gotten a 1660super and a 500w psu instead of a 600w one

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and the price would have been similar

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and idk I just trust nvidia more when it comes to gpus. I had many problems with amd vcards before

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one died, then the other came faulty

supple bane
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now that you say that.

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i got a slower gpu for more money also

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i got a 2070 instead of 5700xt

keen shore
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I’m getting a 3060 ti tomorrow, would anyone give me an advice if I should get it or not?

fallen harbor
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what are your concerns?

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what is your cpu?

keen shore
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Im curious if this gpu might bottleneck the cpu

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Ryzen 5 3600

fallen harbor
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nah youre good

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the 3600 is p good

keen shore
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Should I get a 1440 monitor?

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To utilize the gpu’s full power

fallen harbor
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uuuh

short pier
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At 1440p you'll have the least bottle neck

fallen harbor
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i think youll make more use of a 120mhz monitor

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than of a 1440p one

short pier
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mhz

fallen harbor
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hz*

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sry

keen shore
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I have a 1080p 144hz monitor

fallen harbor
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eh youre good

keen shore
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So 1080 is perfect for it?

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Alrighty thanks

fallen harbor
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depends on what you want

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like

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if you personally prefer higher resolution

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than higher frame rate

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then go for 1440p

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i personally prefer frame rate

keen shore
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I’ve never seen any resolution higher than 1080 with my own eyes

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I do prefer framerate too

fallen harbor
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i personally dont care about resolutions higher than 1080p when it comes to regular desktop pc gaming

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i will only seek 1440 or 4k if it's a tv

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a bigger screen

keen shore
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Tbh i just want consistent frames

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Over 144hz in most competitive games

fallen harbor
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then stay with your monitor

keen shore
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The thing is its a TN panel monitor

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lacks clarity

molten coral
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fallen harbor
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i always asked what a mechanical kb feels like and everyone always says "bro you will understand when you put your hands on one"

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i tried one last week

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it felt just like a regular kb

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it also sucks that most mechanic kb lack numpad and some even lack all the f keys

supple bane
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probably just tried a crappy kb

molten coral
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^

supple bane
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the worst keyboard feel is membranes that type to mimic the feel of mechanical, followed by super mushy membranes, followed by decent office membranes or laptop keyboard, followed by mechanical

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i have tried plenty of GaMiNg membrane keyboards that try to mimic the feel of mechanical switches, and they dont feel nearly as nice as a generic microsoft office keyboard

fallen harbor
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i wanted to get a mechanical kb but they are super expensive

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my current kb has half of its keys buried down, feels like a digital kb at this point, it responds by just the touch

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but since mechanical are so expensive i just ordered one that is supposedly a decent membrane type

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it was 1500 pesos versus 13000 pesos

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no way tbh ngl imho js

molten coral
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Yeah, I do understand it in your situation with everything highly overpriced

fallen harbor
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dont ask me how much that is in usd cause idek at this point

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probably 9usd versus 72usd

molten coral
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google says 15 vs 133

fallen harbor
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ah yes i included our taxes

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but i guess i shouldnt in this case

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like, we get taxed when buying usd

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so its more like 1usd = 180 pesos for us

molten coral
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ah gotcha

fallen harbor
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but for the outside or for comparison sake its more like 1usd = 100 i think?

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not sure

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102

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just checked

molten bramble
supple bane
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i dont see the advantage of an expensive keyboard for gaming tbh

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as an expensive keyboard user i mean.

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ive got mine for the typing experience, not the gaming aspect

molten bramble
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The Logitech Pro X with Romer Tactile switches I have is actually a solid upgrade for me in terms of FPS' over a membrane low-profile from HP I use for typing.

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It was money well spent IMO.

proud trellis
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when my current keyboard breaks i think i might try to build my own keyboard

leaden field
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thats a good idea if i didnt just buy new one i would too

runic valve
prime jasper
proud trellis
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!!specs

silent oasisBOT
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Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for the full release of Battlefield 2042.

proud trellis
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hmm it doesnt say any rumours are fake now or whatever it was

zenith tusk
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!specs

vast valley
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Rip

opaque saddle
dry pike
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I was the one that suggested that we changed the specs command. As the specs for the small technical test were out the notion that all specs out there were rumors would be wrong. We however still don't know what system requirements for the open beta or the full release will be. The changed wording is just to reflect that fact.

plucky token
quick locust
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Kaboom

keen shore
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After a week of planning to get a 3060 I ended up getting a 3070 ti

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For $820 usd

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Did I get scammed ?

quick locust
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There's a shortage so prices are higher

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The msrp is 600 usd

hardy scaffold
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Sb wants to play fortnite?

quick locust
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Considering the times that isn't as bad markup as there often is

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!!lfg @hardy scaffold

silent oasisBOT
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hardy scaffold
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Wtf

quick locust
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?

stable mountain
quick locust
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yes, but the demand is still very high

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though the prices are going lower over time now

fallen harbor
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crypto currencies are getting higher again anyway

dry pike
latent light
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Gigabyte has been cheaping out on components for years

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Have a gigabyte motherboard and GPU, both have problems of their own

quick locust
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mine works just fine

plain stag
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Mainly gigabyte gaming oc and vision oc, as their decently priced options

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Msi ventus/mech lineup is a complete disaster this generation

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Worse cards and components than founders editions

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Also, their x570 aorus lineup is also pretty good

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Even the cheapest aorus elite has overkill vrm, and the best capabilities in that price class

marsh gull
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guys can you tell me if this list is good?

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my budget is 1000usd

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i have a 1tb m.2 laying around with 32 gb of ram that will go in this build

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(the 8gb are for my old build)

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im getting an rtx 3060 ti along with it

supple bane
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Try spend some more on the psu

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Its decent wattage but its still cheap

marsh gull
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ok

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is the thermaltake smart rgb 600w good?

plain stag
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Stick with evga, just get a better rating

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Youre fine with 600w, altho i would go for 650 or 700w, if you plan on upgrading your gpu in the near future

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If not, then 600w is perfectly fine

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But get at least a gold rating

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They shouldnt be too much expensive

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Evga, corsair, seasonic

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All good brands

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You wont go wrong with either of them

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Corsair is pretty much seasonic, I'm pretty sure seasonic is still an OEM brand for corsair psus

dry pike
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https://www.velocitymicro.com/images/upload/80plusratings.jpg
Higher ratings like gold, platinium, titanium = more efficient PSU, to gain more efficiency you pretty much have to use better components, better components usually means more stable power = components lasting longer, overclocks and general operation have a higher chance of being stable

plain stag
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That evga broze is quite old i think

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I'm not sure if they still make bronze psus

dry pike
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Lower efficiency PSUs are bing phased out as many countries now have begun demanding it to save power.

marsh gull
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yeah

plain stag
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Gold rating is the mininum rating now

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Pretty much every psu manufacturer makes gold as their standard now

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Correction

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Reputable psu manufacturers

dry pike
fallen harbor
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get two modules of 8gb ram each, not 4. Look after a total of 16, not 8

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8 will bottleneck your computer

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and that PSU is good enough, it's not cheap

atomic jackal
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bruh i dont know how the guy did it

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but he mounted the cooler ovwr the top

fallen harbor
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what are you talking about

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somebody got ur cooler replaced by a new one?

atomic jackal
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my case doesnt support an aio over the top

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but the guy actually managed to put it there

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the tubes touch my gpu is that bad?

fallen harbor
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hmm im not sure what you mean, im having a hard time picturing it in my head

fallen harbor
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You can use a small wire to attach the tube to some part of the case

storm osprey
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i think hes saying the case doesnt say it supports a radiator on top mount, but they got it to work

fallen harbor
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i know thats what he says but idk how like, if its not supported, then how

molten coral
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just drill new holes

fallen harbor
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lol

storm osprey
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i assume it doesnt support it because of clearance issues with the motherboards heat spreaders

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but if he has small heat speaders that wouldnt be an issue

storm osprey
fallen harbor
storm osprey
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my tubes touch my gpu, its been like that for like 10 months now, no problems

atomic jackal
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the cpu is still on 53°C

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is that bad?

storm osprey
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idle?

atomic jackal
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yes

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on bios now

storm osprey
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that seems a bit warm for idle

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cpu?

atomic jackal
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yes

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xpu

fallen harbor
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he lives in a very warm place

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he has talked about how it's 40c in his very room

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how did it use to be before this new cooler in idle @atomic jackal ?

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was it also 50 and something?

storm osprey
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40c inside?!

fallen harbor
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try it in a demanding game

atomic jackal
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so definitely an improvement

fallen harbor
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this is his room apparently

atomic jackal
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ah yes

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the fans kicked in

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45 degrees now

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👍

fallen harbor
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speaking of coolers, I ended up buying a se903 for my sister's i7 3770 which was reaching 88c in cpu demanding games. Now the temp in the same games dont go above 56c. What was weird is that the thing didn't fit in perfectly in the motherboard. If I were to put it as intended, I would have broken a transistor, so I had to put the dissipator horizontally, with the fan aiming below instead of on a side. It still is a massive improvement though. I thought it would warm up the gpu but it doesnt, or maybe it does but only by 1c if even

fallen harbor
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pls

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i wanna know

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do you have msi afterburner

atomic jackal
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yes i do

fallen harbor
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kk

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do it then

atomic jackal
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should i also do a cinebench?

fallen harbor
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i dont see why you should

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just see how it functions in the activities that you often perform

opaque saddle
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I used to play games at 36-38C indoor temp @storm osprey

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This is the temp chart of my old bedroom without aircon on and without me playing games

atomic jackal
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oh my god

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i am getting 200 fps

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i was getting 120 fps before

fallen harbor
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yea

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hardware limits its performance when it hits very high temps in order to not die

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how high are your temps now?

atomic jackal
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and my gpu is actually utilizing itself now

atomic jackal
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%80 use

supple bane
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was you not dripping with sweat?

opaque saddle
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Gaming at 35C temp is unbearable. Anywhere higher than that would makes me wanna quit gaming

fallen harbor
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what

opaque saddle
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I was sweating a lot when it was 35

supple bane
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i HATE playing games with even clammy palms

fallen harbor
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ah you mean 35 in your room

supple bane
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sweaty palms is the worst

atomic jackal
fallen harbor
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thats amazing

chrome skiff
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my fan blows right across my desk to cool my hands down

opaque saddle
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I think it can go as high as 41C with my desktop on

atomic jackal
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man im so happy i got an aio

opaque saddle
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Coz the problem is that, the room temp won’t go below 30c during summer. I moved out to another city and my parents sold the house

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Located in the valley. Meaning there is no sea or land breezes. The new house in the hill side suburbs makes it a few degrees cooler tho.

supple bane
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im glad i dont have to deal with that

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im glad i get like 5 days a year where it goes above 30c

opaque saddle
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I moved to another city As you know

supple bane
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i much prefer the cold than the warm. i can cope with the cold much better

fallen harbor
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it usually is above 30c in my room like 20 days a year i think

opaque saddle
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The highest temp recorded in my city is only 44C

supple bane
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"only"

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the hottest temperature i have in living memory is probably 35

opaque saddle
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Yeah. It was 41-42C a year before

fallen harbor
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ive had 40 once i think

opaque saddle
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So the higher the indoor temp, the slower your laptops will be

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I remember the days I need to switch on aircon in order to play bf1

fallen harbor
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just the same as the higher my depression the slower my performance at work hahahah am i right

opaque saddle
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Coz 8C differences makes up to 40% fps loss on my laptop

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Work ThinkHmm

atomic jackal
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whwre is the chat button on bf1?

fallen harbor
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it's J

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if you want everyone to see what you type

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K for your team only

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L for your squad only

fallen harbor
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I have a question for yall

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suppose I created an application, some light software that detects your hardware and compares it to all other hardwares that have been released and also tells you beforehand at what frame rate your computer will run many titles in specific resolutions before you download and try them

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along with some small tips about temperature and ram suggestion and whatnot

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would you find that useful or absolutely useless

molten coral
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Think that already exists

fallen harbor
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o rly

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i wanna see it

molten coral
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Oh it's without the tips but for FPS it already exists

toxic wigeon
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Ohhhh

fallen harbor
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coolio

toxic wigeon
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Holy shit

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Its a bit limited though with the games

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But

fallen harbor
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there goes the only idea i had for a software to create

supple bane
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what does "performance percentile" mean?

fallen harbor
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is there anything yall would want to have that is similar to this but doesnt exist?

supple bane
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a userbenchmark that isnt corrupt

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one test that runs on everything and gives you a simple metric to tell you how your hardware is performing

fallen harbor
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ic

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anything simpler for more ignorant people though? (?)

quick locust
molten coral
supple bane
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@molten coral that website seems to be very inaccurate

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i get 110 fps average

molten coral
toxic wigeon
molten coral
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I literally typed in how many fps hardware in google and this was the first thing to pop up

quick locust
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71? i doubt

supple bane
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hey @fallen harbor make an accurate version of what nacho links Noice

fallen harbor
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lol

supple bane
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/s

toxic wigeon
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100 fps on high for far cry 3 with 2560 yet double on 1920 wtf

fallen harbor
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i would like to attempt to create a software that gives some more daily good use, kind of like msi afterburner and rivatunner but something else

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but i cant think of anything

supple bane
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both of those things are very complicated to make.

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something like this website would actually be very simple but time consuming to build the database required

molten coral
toxic wigeon
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It gives you a general idea what your set up yields though

supple bane
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its best to just go on youtube and search "i5 10400f 3060ti bfv 1080p"

toxic wigeon
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At least

supple bane
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that will almost always give you a result

molten coral
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Also you get what you pay for

prime jasper
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anyone uses the windows app for netflix? do you get stutters?

supple bane
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i use it, its shit :P and yes i sometimes get stutters

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its so much worse than the browser version.

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it seems they stopped updating it like 10 years ago, the ui is so much more dated

near rune
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it was fine for me

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not the best but works

prime jasper
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yeah i use it because the quality seems to be much better than on the browser version

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but some days its just stuttering a lot

turbid pawn
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any nerds that can help me? My game won't launch and my profsafe files apparently doesn't exist, but repairing the game doesn't work??? (bfv)

prime jasper
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4k is not available on chrome/firefox

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i tried to use edge and it stutters too

quick locust
sacred dove
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sooo... any follow up on this? a source? evidence? anything

arctic crag
storm rune
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@runic valve @plucky token so yea today i finally was able to upgrade my "place"

runic valve
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wha

storm rune
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fuck

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i cant send a picture

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this message

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and you replied to it

runic valve
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huh

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i dont remember this at all

storm rune
runic valve
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but thats short term memory loss for ya

sacred dove
runic valve
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head injuries are fun

storm rune
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shet

sacred dove
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why tell me to search if you think it exists there? just link me @arctic crag

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anything at all

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i asked that mod for further evidence a day ago with no response

storm rune
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@runic valve so you wanna see the new one and the old one?

runic valve
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not really

storm rune
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well ok

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but all i wanna say that the table didn't bend

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so yea thanks

sacred dove
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nah

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i just searched those videos and not one word about inability to post

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so where did you get them?

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by what metric did you find videos saying a certain driver caused a PC to be unable to post?

arctic crag
#

I literally typed the driver version

sacred dove
#

the videos have nothing on them saying they cannot post

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???

arctic crag
#

What? Give me a sec i think there is a misunderstanding here

sacred dove
#

yeah you just can't read

fallen harbor
#

i see you guys are busy

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ill come back later

arctic crag
sacred dove
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yep

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so anyway the mod never provided any evidence

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just dropped a ridiculous claim with no source

fallen harbor
#

mom dad pls dont fight

fallen harbor
#

anybody knows the specifications of the ps5 processor?

#

´´´PS5's CPU is a custom chip with 8 Zen 2 cores running at 3.5Ghz(variable), all equipped with hyperthreading that totals it up to a logical 16 cores. The GPU is the latest RDNA2 based Navi chip that has 36 Compute Units, all running at 2.23 GHz.´´´

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3.5

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isnt that a weird choice

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sounds like its slow

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but what do i know

#

dont games require more single core performance than core amount

supple bane
#

thats probably base speed not boost

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i imagine so anyway

fallen harbor
#

hmmm

proud trellis
#

pogrich found a G502 it seems in tarkov

supple bane
#

lmao nice

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i love how you aimed at it and circled it as if we were blind or smthin gigaMeowStatic

proud trellis
#

idk if its some sort of easter egg

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yeah i circled it because it was dark in there

storm osprey
#

they made it dark because they are ashamed of their mouse

proud trellis
#

sorry, who are you ?

proud trellis
#

granty i finally got a decent chair btw and it arrived PogU

supple bane
#

i know, i saw your message

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i was lurking.

proud trellis
#

oh

storm osprey
#

i am your superior

proud trellis
#

lies

storm osprey
#

everyone is your superior

proud trellis
#

eh

fallen harbor
#

ice is my baby boy

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nobody touches him

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back off

supple bane
#

this is a pretty killer deal rn, even for a used pc.

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considering a 3090 alone will set you back 2000-2500 pounds new.

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plus the rest of the high end specs,

storm osprey
#

hell yea, even if ventus isnt that good

proud trellis
#

i would buy that, just to sell the 3090 and make all my money back

#

and then get like a 3080 if they are cheaper and then basically just have spent 1K on a beast computer

storm osprey
#

Which is the BEST RTX 3080 card? This is a roundup of EVERY RTX 3080, and in this buyer's guide I compare the cards' power limits which affect the performance the most, the VRM current capability and quality which affects overclocking potential, as well as the cooler's cooling capability. I fried my brain compiling the data so please share this ...

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Which manufacturer has the worst lineup?

arctic crag
#

MSI

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With my eyes closed

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Asus,Gigabyte and Evga are good you won’t go wrong with any of them

storm osprey
#

uhhh probably asus

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they really killed it with the TUF lineup

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wait, i was backwards

arctic crag
#

Asus is really good their strix is the best in 3000 series

storm osprey
#

zotac, msi, and gigabyte have a few duds

arctic crag
#

MSI use lower quality components than the FE

#

Asus use expensive components that’s why you see their prices higher than others

storm osprey
#

well tuf was one of the few msrp aftermarket cards for a while

arctic crag
#

Asus tuf in 3000 series is a brilliant

storm osprey
#

even though last i checked you cant get them anymore and are replaced by the tuf oc which is still some 50 dollars more than msrp and well worth it

keen shore
#

Has anyone experienced an issue with an rtx card?

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For some reason water is green instead of blue..

storm osprey
#

what are you talking about?

keen shore
#

I bought a 3070 then I launched bf1, the water is neon green color

storm osprey
#

oooo in game your colors are off?

keen shore
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Everything is fine except water

storm osprey
#

huh, thats a new one

#

drivers all up to date?

plain stag
#

Seems like a water texture bug

keen shore
#

Bf1 doesn’t even have ray tracing

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Yeah

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Up to date

plain stag
#

Try repairing bf1

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Some file might have gotten corrupted somehow

keen shore
#

The maintenance team are replacing my card with a new one

plain stag
#

Its not a gpu issue

arctic crag
plain stag
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No chance

keen shore
#

Bfv

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Same issue

plain stag
#

Hmm

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Okay then

storm osprey
#

its weird its only water though

keen shore
#

I guess it has something to do with ray tracing?

plain stag
#

Might be some weird SSR bug

keen shore
#

But I haven’t even enabled it

arctic crag
#

You downloaded the game yourself from origin right?

keen shore
#

Yeah

plain stag
#

Big pools of water in bf5 arent ray traced

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Im pretty sure

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They just use SSR for reflections

keen shore
#

Small water surfaces on roads and such

arctic crag
#

I recommend doing a clean install of driver

keen shore
#

Already did

plain stag
#

It's a software issue most likely

arctic crag
#

Install a different version

keen shore
#

Nvidia issue?

plain stag
#

Did you do it through DDU?

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Yeah, maybe install like a month or two old driver

arctic crag
#

What version are you using?

keen shore
#

no, regular windows 10 uninstaller

arctic crag
#

Driver version

plain stag
#

Do it through DDU

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DDU completely removes all files for drivers

#

There could be some files left in the registry

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That windows uninstaller doesn't delete

keen shore
#

Should I completely format the pc?

plain stag
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No

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Just download DDU and uninstall the driver from there

arctic crag
#

If you don’t know ddu is display driver unistaller we use it to completely remove gpu driver files in case of something wrong

plain stag
#

Ddu is great cuz it deletes every file regarding to drivers

keen shore
#

Yeah I know but I always uninstall my drivers using windows

plain stag
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From registries and residual files

arctic crag
keen shore
#

anyways the pc is at the maintenance office

arctic crag
#

Also don’t download the same driver version you’re using rn

keen shore
#

They are struggling a bit

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Its not the same version

arctic crag
#

What version are you using?

plain stag
#

They can immediately see if its a gpu or not

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They just need to replace it

keen shore
#

I forgot the versiob

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Yeah they removed the one I had

arctic crag
#

Other than bf1 and bfv is everything alright?

keen shore
#

I only tried these two games

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Other games needed an update

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Over 100GBs

arctic crag
#

I’m not really an expert but maybe it’s the monitor itself?

keen shore
#

I have not thought of that

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But I don’t think its a possibility

arctic crag
#

Maybe

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Hope it’s just a software issue

keen shore
#

even if its an issue with the gpu itself

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i can get it replaced for free

arctic crag
#

Yep

prime jasper
#

Which battlefield is better for my specs? bad company 2 or battlefield 4, im looking towards campaign more

Intel Core i3-7100U CPU
4gb ram
64-bit

yeah i know my pc isnt the best

little oasis
#

your CPU ain't bad

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your ram on the other side

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upgrade it ASAP

storm osprey
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considering they dont have a gpu...

prime jasper
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Yeah, i know. im playing on an asus laptop and i dont even know if it can open up

little oasis
#

meh, the iGPU on that 7100 isn't half bad

little oasis
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if you have an screwdriver

prime jasper
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i obv do

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my pc can mostly run older games like crysis 2 and cod mw3

little oasis
#

just look for your model, to find any restrictions in terms of RAM

storm osprey
#

i doubt it will run even singleplayer at 720p 30fps low settings

little oasis
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nah, it'll run BF4 with no issue

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like, I've played it on older iGPUs

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you'd play it at 1366x768, at around 30fps

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IF

prime jasper
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people said bad company was better than bf4, but bad company looks kinda weird from gameplay

little oasis
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you get more ram

storm osprey
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http://www.UltrabookGaming.com

Testing Battlefield 4 running on Intel HD 620 graphics on an Intel Core i3-7100U 'Kaby Lake' processor, in a Dell Inspiron 15-5567 laptop.

The game was tested at 1366x768 on medium detail settings . Frame rates were typically in the 25-40fps range, and performance could be improved further by lowering the detail ...

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im surprised it gets 30 fps at 720p low mp

little oasis
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not surprising, you can do so on older iGPUs

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with that being said, I isnsist on you buying both RAM and an SSD

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does your PC has a CD writer?

prime jasper
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nope

little oasis
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which model is it

prime jasper
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from what i know it dosent. maybe it does im just blind

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let me check the model

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@arctic crag I have the latest geforce game ready driver

arctic crag
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Use a different driver

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You know how to perform a clean install right?

prime jasper
#

yes

arctic crag
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DDU

prime jasper
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so im just gonna install an old one?

storm osprey
#

im THAT guy that will just reformat/clean install everything

arctic crag
#

461.92

arctic crag
prime jasper
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the model is X541UVK

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I just repaired and updated battlefront 2

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i'll try that first before going back to old driver

little oasis
storm osprey
# arctic crag No

youre talking ddu, and im talking about clean install everything. idk whats no about that

arctic crag
little oasis
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it has a CD writer

prime jasper
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Oh,

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Ill try to find it then

little oasis
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you can replace it for a caddy bay

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and install an SSD on the actual HDD spot

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moving that one to the caddy bay

arctic crag
storm osprey
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its really not that bad

little oasis
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as for RAM, you can install up to 16GB DDR4-2666

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so 2x8

arctic crag
#

Also a fresh install of windows won’t fix everything

little oasis
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all in all, that'll cost you around $200

little oasis
storm osprey
#

nopes, but it is the "do all" troubleshoot

prime jasper
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So right now should i get bad company 2 or bf4

little oasis
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right now, both will run awfully

arctic crag
#

This dude for example he has the latest driver installed and we know how Nvidia fuck drivers up sometimes so installing a new windows wouldn’t really help

little oasis
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and the issue is neither the processor, nor the iGPU

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it's the RAM

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4GB shouldn't be an option for laptops, since at least 6 years ago

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8GB is the new minimum IMO

storm osprey
little oasis
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DDU isn't risky

storm osprey
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i didnt tell him to do it...

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never said ddu is risky

little oasis
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ngl but I hate your pfp

storm osprey
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first time ive heard that

arctic crag
little oasis
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same

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it's the nuclear option

storm osprey
#

its not that drastic

arctic crag
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You have the balls for installing a new windows

storm osprey
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you have to spend what? an hour getting things back to normal outside of redownloading your games

little oasis
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also back in the early W8-8.1 days, you could end up losing your license

storm osprey
#

well now thats account bound

little oasis
#

at least W10 made that change

arctic crag
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@storm osprey Garfield wanna be

storm osprey
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its just an orange cat

prime jasper
#

Is geforce 920mx good for battlefield once i upgrade my ram?

molten bramble
# sacred dove so anyway the mod never provided any evidence

First off, I don’t have to provide you evidence of anything. Secondly, never saw your original demand, but I’d not normally have provided a response if I had to something dripping with attitude like that. Thirdly, this was in reference to a personal experience with that latest driver set which for three (3) days didn’t allow a proper post of the OS until it could be rolled back using a bit of trickery.

little oasis
prime jasper
supple bane
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And certainly wont be for 2042

prime jasper
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i wanna play like bf4 or bf bad company 2, not the newer ones beacuse they would obviously not run

supple bane
#

Bf4 maybe, bad company 2 should

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Should be able to do 1080p 30 fps

molten bramble
#

Anyone running a MSI MEG Z390 ACE here?

supple bane
#

Also dont upgrade your ram, you are just wasting money

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Its like fitting a spoiler to a 1940s jeep.

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Sure it can help modern high performance cars, but its not going to help in your situation.

arctic crag
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RGB would help a 1940 jeep

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It will take increase the speed by 25%

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And control by 50%

storm osprey
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depends on the colors

sacred dove
arctic crag
storm osprey
#

huh.. apparently this is a new version

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this is the old one

molten bramble
arctic crag
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Looks like there will be a different glasses type for steam deck

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Regular one and anti glare one

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And this is just from Linus early version

storm osprey
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anti glare only on most expensive model

arctic crag
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I think so

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Have you seen the video?

storm osprey
#

yea ive seen the video, but that information came out at reveal iirc

arctic crag
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50-60 fps on doom eternal medium settings

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Which is not bad

storm osprey
#

considering what the neogeo or whatever the other handheld could do

arctic crag
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Yeah 37

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Fps

storm osprey
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(iirc roughly half of what the steam deck does)

molten coral
#

I pre-ordered the 256GB version

storm osprey
#

you would

molten coral
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not sure if i'm gonna get it though

storm osprey
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why is that?

molten coral
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I pre-ordered because it gives me some time to think about it

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Like if I want it at the end of the year I can still have it in Q1

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Probably if I would pre-order it now I would be getting it way later in Q2 or Q3

storm osprey
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if i didnt have a switch i would totally get one

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but im trying to get some paintball gear

arctic crag
#

I really want to play it but no way it’s coming to pc

storm osprey
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na west, gigabyte internet, wired connection, and it was laggy as fuck

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offline its great though

bronze blade
arctic crag
normal matrix
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

limpid bridge
#

Anyone know which is better for PS5, the Sony Pulse 3D headset or the Platinum headset?

plain stag
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fuck yea

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finally got a 3070ti

alpine anvil
#

damn pepecat really lucky

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Been looking for a 3070 or 3080 (preferably 80) for a few months

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kinda need one soon

fallen harbor
#

im building a pc and i disabled legacy mode before installing windows because im stupid and now i cant enter the bios or install anything on it. Anybody knows how to re-enable legacy mode without having to buy a ps2 keyboard?

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nvm

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removed the battery and it worked

toxic zealot
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lmao

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I actually forgot removing battery resets bios

marsh gull
fallen harbor
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lm,

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ok*

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remember to go for 16gbs of ram

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and that psu is perfect

marsh gull
fallen harbor
#

what?

marsh gull
#

i already have 32gb 3200mhz laying around

prime jasper
#

even the most expensive one is worth it

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due to the fact that you can play all of your owned steam games already

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Switch seems like overpriced garbage now lol

plain stag
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and 80 was too much expensive compared to a 70ti

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and now im properly ready for 2042

wintry prairie
plain stag
#

yeah

wintry prairie
#

Which one did you get?

plain stag
#

altho the gpu is dumping a lot of heat XDDD

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palit 3070ti

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basically i got a 360 rad on top, and its pulling all that hot air from the gpu

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and its hitting the bottom of my desk, and heating my legs xDD

wintry prairie
#

Yeah, I have 2 x 360 rads

plain stag
#

i definitely need to play around with the fans

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its an AIO for the cpu

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but yeah

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my legs are toasty while playing bf5 xD

wintry prairie
#

😄

plain stag
#

i also need to replace my front 3 fans

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they came with the case, and they are ehh

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also they start to whine when at like 70% speed

wintry prairie
#

Ugh! I like quiet fans, even at highish rpm

plain stag
#

the one that i got for the exhaust is great

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super quiet, and at double the rpm

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than those front fans

wintry prairie
#

Do you plan on putting a waterblock on the 3070ti?

plain stag
#

nah

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i spent way too much on this pc

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xDD

wintry prairie
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Gotcha 😉

plain stag
#

i also need to get a new monitor as well

wintry prairie
#

I hear you, I just upgraded my monitor after many years

plain stag
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nice

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hm

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might not be the greatest idea overclocking my gpu

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i dont want even more heat now

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xDDD

wintry prairie
#

You "could" , but I'd rather not.

plain stag
#

im playing at like 140 fps average in bf5

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with ultra, and ray tracing enabled

wintry prairie
#

Nice! I'm usually around 170fps in BFV, but I think my cpu is the bottleneck

plain stag
#

i didnt look at average without ray tracing

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but i'd assume it would be something along those lines

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i oc'd memory to 2000mhz effective

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ill see how much i can push the core

wintry prairie
#

I'm hoping to hit 300fps in BF2042, but we'll see. I may need to upgrade my cpu.

plain stag
#

but yea, i dont think ill be running any oc when its already so hot where i live xD

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i got really bamboozled when i felt all that heat on my legs xD

wintry prairie
#

I live in a hot place, but I crank the AC

plain stag
#

yeah, i need to put ac in my room as well

#

Lets see if i can have a stable 21gbps memory and over 2000mhz on the core

wintry prairie
#

It's been close to 100F/38C here lately, but typically 74F/23C inside

plain stag
#

Yeah

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Very hot here as well

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Okay

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The game doesn't like that oc

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I'm lagging hard

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XDD

wintry prairie
#

I have 4333 memory, but bad timings. I'll be upgrading slowly in the next couple months.

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Or maybe wait for next gen

plain stag
#

I got 4000 mhx ram

wintry prairie
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

plain stag
#

Cl 18

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It's okay

wintry prairie
#

Nice

plain stag
#

Hmm, i should try without ray tracing

wintry prairie
#

Absolutely, higher fps

plain stag
#

Yep

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And its not like bf5s ray tracing implementation is the greatest

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Huh

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In dx11 mode

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Gpu utilization is only 60%

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And i got the same fps

#

Guess I'll have to try dx12 mode then

wintry prairie
#

Yes DX12

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Ugh, and I just remebered you don't have an EVGA . . .

plain stag
#

Okay, I get more fps with dx1w

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12

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About 20 fps more

wintry prairie
#

with DX12?

plain stag
#

Preliminary results say about 20 fps more

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Yes

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And i get full gpu utilization

wintry prairie
#

Very nice!

plain stag
#

Okay

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Even more

#

I had about 100 fps average

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I'm at like 130 average now

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Same map

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Fjell

wintry prairie
#

👍

plain stag
#

That was not the case when I had a 1070

#

Had worse performance in dx12 mode

eager whale
#

With my 1660ti DX12 is the mode I have to use because my GPU sits at 67% utilisation in DX11 no matter what :/

plain stag
#

Same

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I literally get 30 to 40 fps more on fjell

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And i play at 135 % render res

eager whale
plain stag
#

5600x is amazinf

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Yep

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Im like holy shit wtf

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Literally had 100 fps average in dx11 mode

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Crazy gains

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Ray tracing didn't even reduce fps that much

#

Definitely had above 100 fps average with ray tracing on

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And i need to check if i have ReBAR on

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Prob not

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Didn't go on bios when i installed the gpu

wintry prairie
plain stag
#

its so good

#

about 65% utilization in bf5

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i no longer have a cpu bottleneck in bf5 😄

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my 6600k was maxed out

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I'll also need to test if i get more fps without an oc, or with oc

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I prob get more, cuz i got all 6 cores at 4.6ghz

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While without oc or with pbo, only one core would boost up higher

wintry prairie
fallen shadow
#

me with 30 to 25 in bf1 with 720p after seeing this chat be like :CatRee

weak girder
#

you running this on an intel pentium or what?

fallen shadow
#

core i3 4170T 3.2

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r5m330 2 gb vram

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4 gb ram

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will upgrade to 12

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i have a ps4 but i got bf1 for free

#

its a low end ik dont roast me 🙂

weak girder
weak girder
fallen shadow
#

oh nice

#

u prolly got a 1050 ti or something right?

weak girder
#

1650 ti

keen shore
#

Is there a way to reduce bottleneck percentage?

#

Im getting bottlenecked with 3070 and r5 3600

glad topaz
#

cpu bottleneck?

keen shore
#

Cpu

glad topaz
#

what resolution are you on

keen shore
#

1080

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I can’t afford a 1440p

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After spending $800 on the gpu only

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yeah I guess and its a decent brand

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3 fan overclocked

glad topaz
#

aside from buying a new cpu you can't really do much

keen shore
#

5600x?

eager whale
#

Only bottleneck really is the amount of VRAM

keen shore
#

The bottleneck isn’t very noticeable but its there

#

Getting around 150fps on bfv ultra settings

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Ray tracing enabled 120 fps

glad topaz
#

you can turn up the resolution scale to increase gpu usage

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if you don't want it to be a cpu bottleneck

supple bane
#

yeah but its pointless

#

it will increase gpu usage but the fps will stay the same or decrease

glad topaz
#

yeah

supple bane
#

so basically you are just making the gpu run hotter for no reason.

weak girder
glad topaz
#

i mean supersampling does look better

weak girder
# weak girder is that supposed to be a problem?

you wont tell the difference anyway even if the fps is higher

and if you buy a brand new monitor, the bottleneck will be reduced giving more or less the same fps at 1440p so its not rly a problem

#

same with upscaling

keen shore
#

So upscaling fixes the problem?

glad topaz
#

its not really a problem but you can supersample without affecting fps

weak girder
#

and its not a problem btw

glad topaz
#

may as well use the full power of the gpu

keen shore
kindred wind
#

Holy shit there’s an impostor among us he’s playing warzone!

woeful kelp
#

Hey guys, would you think 3060 (maybe the ti version), i7 11700f and 16 gb 3200mHz ram would be enough to play BF2042 smoothly at 1080p? Planning to buy those components. Right now i have a 1070 with i5 7500 and 16 gb 2400mHz ram.

wintry prairie
#

Yes

#

I'd get the ti

woeful kelp
#

also in ultra, that would be NIIIICE

#

then ill problably buy that too

#

its funnt that the ti version has 4 gb less vram

#

funny

#

than the original 3060

wintry prairie
midnight crypt
#

Ultra settings are almost never worth using

wintry prairie
#

True

woeful kelp
#

are you talking about competitive advantage? or just no difference between medium and ultra settings?

wintry prairie
#

Both

woeful kelp
#

yeah ok

midnight crypt
#

There is not much difference between high and ultra most of the time

#

And ultra just eats frames

wintry prairie
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I get same fps running Ultra, medium, low

But its more of a CPU bottleneck for me atm.

woeful kelp
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my 1070 atm is too strong... my i5 7500 cant handle it xD

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but anyway, is there even a big difference between a 3 fan graphic card and 2 fan graphic card?

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because the 3060 ti im looking at right now has 2 cooling fans where the 3060 has 3

supple bane
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if you want a card with 3 fans... just get a 3060 with 3 fans TrashPandaSniff

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there will be single dual and triple fan models of every card

woeful kelp
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whaaaaaaaat

wintry prairie
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"Should" be better cooling. But it doesn't really matter. My GPU for the past 10 years have had zero fans. 🙂

supple bane
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but anyway. generally a triple fan card will perform better yes.

serene dragon
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it's oem

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go brrr

woeful kelp
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lol

supple bane
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blower style coolers can be pretty efficient

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they are just loud.

wintry prairie
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Look for something in your budget that has what you want. I prefer quiet and lower temps.

supple bane
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when those parts launched, it would have been a good pairing. but now as times have progressed and games are needing more multithreaded cpu's, the 7500 just cant keep up.

marsh gull
woeful kelp
marsh gull
marsh gull
supple bane
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bfv performs awfully on 4t cpus

opaque saddle
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quad core CPU has been around for a really long time

marsh gull
opaque saddle
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good value for budget machines

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but gaming? nah

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It was good until ryzen came out

woeful kelp
opaque saddle
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prebuilt?

woeful kelp
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yup

marsh gull
opaque saddle
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sometimes prebuilt machines are cheaper. HOWEVER, you have to look at if it has any potentials for part upgrade

marsh gull
opaque saddle
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it can be way more expensive sometimes

midnight crypt
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Just dont buy from Dell/alienware

supple bane
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/alienware

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:)

opaque saddle
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i reckon dell has NO upgrade potentials (coz of their silly design)

midnight crypt
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;)

opaque saddle
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and ACER has a really bad reputations, especially in quality control

midnight crypt
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Just watch out for non standard parts

woeful kelp
supple bane
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it should say in the description

opaque saddle
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like... 16GB of ram (2x8GB)

supple bane
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look for 16gb (2x8gb)

marsh gull
woeful kelp
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oh im fucking stupid xD

supple bane
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rather than 16gb (1x16gb)

marsh gull
supple bane
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dont.

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they often dont use the right pc in pictures

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they will use one of their higher end pc's

midnight crypt
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^

marsh gull
woeful kelp
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Corsair 16GB DDR4-3200 Vengeance RAM

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so not dual channel then?