technology

[rough gale]

Since the system requirements are kinda known can I ask you guys sth.?

Do you think I can play on high graphic settings on medium Raytracing: on and dlss on as well? (I have a RTX 2070 super and a I9-9900k and 32 gigs ram)

[wintry prairie]

What resolution?

[rough gale]

Probably 1080p but if possible 1440p

[wintry prairie]

I would guess that yes

[rough gale]

Fr since recommended is a 2060 and mine is near to that and I might be able to. Only. Play on medium for stable 60fps

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-developing-geforce-rtx-3070-with-noctua-cooling-solution

Noctua RTX 3070 coming

[storm osprey]

finally something to match those hideous fans

and it will cost 1.6x more than it should

[supple bane]

yanno.

thats not too bad

its better than noctua fans

it looks retro almost

would work well in a sleeper for example

[storm osprey]

im confused.. its better than noctua fans, but its using noctua fans...

[supple bane]

i think that looks better than a noctua fan on its own yes

because its tied into a theme

something that is impossible with a noctua fan

it looks like cooling performance would be dog shit tho cuz there is no where for the air to escape

[storm osprey]

ohhh gotcha

i thought you were talking performance

[supple bane]

no i meant aesthetics

[storm osprey]

silly aesthetics

[latent light]

I think the shroud design is to direct the airflow, not block it

[supple bane]

well the fins are sideways ?

so air out the back would be very inefficient

[latent light]

Yeah it's weird, maybe there's some new secret cooling tech involved

[supple bane]

the fins are like that

so air would really struggle to move towards the back

but yeah, noctua know more about cooling than me so 🤷‍♂️

its also a cad concept by the looks of it

pretty sure the power connectors arent 1mm deep

[storm osprey]

nah thats real

[supple bane]

i now see the white plastic connector and rear io plate. so ignore me

[latent light]

It looks like Noctua tried to mimmick the Founders Edition of RTX 2000 series

[supple bane]

it looked really realistic

[plain stag]

thats a crazy ass design lol

[dry pike]

Make a black version with white fans and it will fit with almost everything

[quick locust]

https://www.crn.com/news/storage/sk-hynix-to-turn-intel-nand-business-into-stand-alone-us-company

[quick locust]

on steam theres more 3090 users than all of rdna2

[storm osprey]

this goes with my theory when it first launched that they didnt do shit to get these into the hands of gamers or they dont have stock either

even though nvidia is always shamed for not having stock or selling to miners

the whole "we are suggesting vendors practices to get these into the hands of gamers" was just word play to make it sound like they were doing something to prevent bots from getting them while all they did was type that publicity stunt

[latent light]

RX 6000 series is in very low production because of gaming console priority

More specifically the PS5

[storm osprey]

reasonable, but the whole narrative that they were gonna solve stock problems was a joke

[latent light]

Remember a vendor stating that they import over a hundred RTX 3000 series GPUs for each RX 6000 series

RDNA3 is gonna have insanely higher production, since it's split between 5nm and 6nm

And we shouldn't expect a console refresh with RDNA3 either

[quick locust]

I know

that laptop is so empty

[latent light]

Is that an ultra thin?

[quick locust]

thin ish

but doesnt take much to cool a 2c2t celeron

[latent light]

I see that 2c/2t even struggles with general usage

Dual cores even with multithreading should be phased out by now imo

[quick locust]

5 fps in csgo

10-12 in dota 2

at least it can play half life 2

lol

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/197310/intel-celeron-processor-n4020-4m-cache-up-to-2-80-ghz.html

oh and 1.1 GHz base clock due to 4.8 to 6W tdp

also pcie 2.0 only

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/magpie-run-amd-fsr-on-any-game

[opaque saddle]

Should look at MacBook 2015 layout

@quick locust

[latent light]

Tfw games from the 1990s can theoretically support FSR

[quick locust]

in proton you can force all steam games to run with fsr iirc

[rocky marlin]

tsmc is gonna go brr

[rocky marlin]

its simple sharpening so yeah clearly

[plain stag]

in my region as well

6800xt cards are almost non existent

theres only 7 6800/6800xt cards in the whole country

[latent light]

Navi 31 & 32 (RX 7900XT & 7800XT) use 5nm for the compute die while 6nm is used for I/O and 3DVC
Navi 33 (7700XT & 7600XT) use just 6nm for all

[plain stag]

7 different models that is

[rocky marlin]

in france radeon is not very popular, so if you are quick, you can get one every thursday

[plain stag]

while nvidia gpus are pretty much x3 in model numbers

maybe even x4

[rocky marlin]

there's actually more RTX 3000 produced than RTX 2000

[rocky marlin]

i saw they could use bi-gpu for the 7900xt

like previous nvidia's generations
like the GTX 685

[latent light]

Navi 31/32 is MCM based so yeah

2 compute dies, ~8 3D cache dies

Also a ML die

[rocky marlin]

interesting, i hope the architecture will be efficient

[latent light]

Over 80% perf-per-watt gain compared to RDNA2

Supposedly

[plain stag]

well, since their ryzen cpus with chiplet design completely revived their performance

i can only imagine what a chiplet gpu design will do

especially when RDNA 2 is really good

[rocky marlin]

amd is clearly on fire since 2019

[latent light]

RDNA3 is planned to be very similar to chiplet design of Zen 2/3

[plain stag]

if their chiplet gpu design is so efficient and powerful like their cpus were

we might see amd cards on top once again

but theres a huge difference between intel and nvidia

nvidia wont go down that easily

[latent light]

AMD is pretty much already there in terms of raw performance

[rocky marlin]

and its clearly gonna go better with optimisation because actually in ray tracing amd is crushed by nvidia
but, as we got the same architecture from consoles and rdna 2 cards, we could easily have like previous generations boost in performance with drivers updates, witch is pretty pog

[plain stag]

especially when they kept investing hard even tho they were on top, unlike intel

[latent light]

AMD already wins in 1080p and 1440p resolution

[plain stag]

yeah, 1080p kills it

[rocky marlin]

yeah, in part because of high frequency boosts

[plain stag]

and traditional raster performance is great too

[latent light]

Nah it's because Infinity Cache

[rocky marlin]

yeah

[plain stag]

infinity cache is a big factor to 1080p perf

[rocky marlin]

i saw that too

[plain stag]

basically how a 5600x has much better performance compared to 5700G

even tho a 5700G is a zen 3 cpu as well, and has 2 extra cores

but it has less cache

[latent light]

Adding L3 cache to GPU greatly benefits rasterization and lower resolutions but at higher resolution (4K) you need to rely more on memory bandwidth, which is why Nvidia still leads in 4K gaming

[rocky marlin]

because of cache yeah

[plain stag]

and its a monolithic design, but that shouldnt affect perf too much

imagine if they put g6x and cache in rdna 2

they would whip ass

[rocky marlin]

so GDDR6x cleary win
rdna 3 will have that too hopefully

[latent light]

7900XT has quadruple the amount of Infinity Cache of 6900XT

7700XT has double of 6900XT

[rocky marlin]

this is kind of amazing, but also scary

[latent light]

7600XT also has more

[plain stag]

you can bet your ass that nvidia will have something cooking as well

especially when they see how rdna 2 performs

they wont be like intel, and react like, UHHHHHHH WHAT DO WE DO??, LETS SLAP ANOTHER + TO OUR AGING ARCHITECTURE

[rocky marlin]

nvidia has no choice
you see intel clearly doesn't joke anymore, alder lake will probably be astounding
and next gen nvidia better have something this big

amd took like 50,3% of market share this year in CPU part

so they are by definition number 1 lol

[plain stag]

nvidia also has a leg up in terms of tech

like dlss, and better ray tracing

[latent light]

AMD has had every spot in the top 10 selling CPUs on Amazon for like 2 years straight lol

[rocky marlin]

ryzen 5 3600 be like:
Ultra giga mega stonks

its actually my cpu

[latent light]

5600X already about to outsell the 3600

[plain stag]

and when you have 2 companies fighting hard

they will have to innovate faster

and deliver more performance

amd aint joking around anymore

[storm osprey]

otherwise we get 5 years of intel giving us minor upgrades

[plain stag]

we will once again see huge leaps in terms of gpu/cpu tech

[rocky marlin]

Finally, after the breakdown of 2012-2017
because of...
i'm afraid to say that... BULLDOZER
we got to finally see some improvements

[plain stag]

had a fx 6300

LOL

[storm osprey]

2700k to 7700k was 4c8t and like .1ghz performance gains year on end

[latent light]

AMD has a lot of companies on their side as well since Microsoft, Sony, Valve, Google, Tesla all have contributed to the development of RDNA architecture and software

[rocky marlin]

and now they planned 10 cores on the I5 only

for alder lake

[plain stag]

what they need now is their own fabs

and not rely on tsmc as much

[rocky marlin]

and 16 on the I9

[rocky marlin]

yeah, intel got there own fab, that's why they are for now good with supply

[plain stag]

altho, acquiring xilinx is a step in the right direction

[rocky marlin]

and suprise:

nvidia purchased arm

[plain stag]

well, not yet

latest news suggest that the uk might hinder that acquisition

[rocky marlin]

yeah

[plain stag]

buying out a company like arm has a lot of legal hurdles that they need to overcome

[latent light]

UK trying to block ARM acquisition

Nvidia likely won't be able to acquire ARM

[slim thunder]

How do I fix the High CPU usage issue for BF1 and BF5?

I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and RX5700XT on the latest drivers

[opaque saddle]

Set the video refresh rate to the same, or lower than your monitor refresh rate

And lower your settings

[slim thunder]

My settings are on medium and my monitor is 144hz so I'll set it to 60 and see if that helps

[opaque saddle]

I would go for 120hz or 144hz…

1080p should be more than enough

But I will set resolution scale to 100% and everything on low settings

[slim thunder]

I just hopped into 2 different matches on BF1 with different settings. The first one with what I had before. Second with setting the refresh at 60hz it didn't do anything

The only thing it did was make my screen go black if I alt-tabbed

[prime jasper]

Why my camera doin that

Battlefield 1
Windows 11

[wintry prairie]

I set video refresh at 360

[slim thunder]

Is there any fix for the High CPU usage issue in BF1 and BF5?

Like Im not experiencing any frame drops or stuttering, my CPU usage is just unusually high

its in between 93-100%

[plain stag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/570630666685775873/872659982225637386/Screenshot_2021-08-05_034759.png

Do you guys think I'm being bottlenecked while playing bf5?

Just slightly?

[slim thunder]

lmao

For me its the opposite

my GPU stays around 40-50 and my CPU goes up to 100%

[plain stag]

Well, i was always at a 100% cpu usage when i had a 6600k oc'd and a 1070

Obviously I'm gpu bound now when I'm playing on an hd 7770 that released 7 years ago

But I'm still running at 70 fps average lol

720p all lowest ofc

5600x is carrying my ass

High cpu usage in bf5/bf1 isnt anything unusual

[slim thunder]

Im running on a Ryzen 5 3600 and a RX5700XT

[plain stag]

You've got 63 other players running around

But you running 100% cpu usage and gpu bellow 100 means you're bottlenecked by the cpu

[slim thunder]

RIP

[plain stag]

You could oc it a bit if you haven't already

[slim thunder]

Can't

Im using stock cooler

[plain stag]

But you're running high fps i assume

Rip

[slim thunder]

I mean yeah

[opaque saddle]

What’s the cpu clock speed and temp?

[plain stag]

3600 and 5700xt should run bf5 like a dream

[slim thunder]

temp is around 70 and clock speed I dont know

[opaque saddle]

From Ryzen master

[plain stag]

Prob 4.2ghz

Single core boost

[slim thunder]

I haven't messed with overclocking or any overclocking programs other than Afterburner but that was to see my FPS and usage

[plain stag]

Well, you're running a stock cooler

So you can't oc even if you wanted to

[slim thunder]

I know

[plain stag]

Altho amd wraith isnt that bad

Unlike that waste of metal that intel makes

[slim thunder]

yeah

The simple fact that I have a stock cooler is the reason I don't oc

Also I'm scared I'll mess something up so that too

[plain stag]

Do you have more than 120fps in bf5?

You cant really

There are safety features in place

It's really hard to mess up a cpu with overclocking nowadays

Gpus as well

[slim thunder]

I have a Sapphire Pulse RX5700XT I think I could do a little bit with that

[lofty light]

If you're on a 3600 there's no reason to overclock

[wintry prairie]

No need to overclock if you don't want to.

[plain stag]

Depends of the power limit

[slim thunder]

But I really don't want to not do I need to

[plain stag]

Maybe 10% extra

If you're lucky

[opaque saddle]

I won’t OC the 3600

[lofty light]

If you really pushed it then you'd get maybe 2% more out of a 3600 than what it does by default

[plain stag]

Technically thats not really overclocking

Increasing the power limit on the gpu

[slim thunder]

Still my only problem is the CPU usage

[plain stag]

So might as well do that

[opaque saddle]

The 3600 won’t be able to OC too much

[wintry prairie]

I watercool my system, and don't overclock . . .

[plain stag]

Your boost clocks will be more consistent

[opaque saddle]

You know what… you shouldn’t look at task manager

[slim thunder]

I can run Pavlov VR at ultra with my setup and it still doesnt get close to 100% like it does in Battlefield

[slim thunder]

I use MSI Afterburner

which I guess is better?

[plain stag]

It doesnt matter that your cpu has high usage

[opaque saddle]

Is that up to date?

[plain stag]

Different games utilize hardware in a different way

Bf1 and bf5 always ran 100% on the cpu

[slim thunder]

rip

[opaque saddle]

unless you got a wrong settings on it, I haven’t got my 3600 runs at 100%

[slim thunder]

also derek when you asked about the clock speed I just downloaded Ryzen master its at 4200 mhz

[plain stag]

It's completely fine either way

Yeah, 4.2 is max boosy for 3600

Single core ofc

[opaque saddle]

Yeah. You may not go higher than 4.2

Are all cores enabled?

[slim thunder]

how do I know if all cores are enabled Im new to this stuff

[plain stag]

You might not have SMT enabled

Altho i doubt

[opaque saddle]

SMT will decrease the usage by 20%

Coz I have tested on 6C6T and 6C12T

[plain stag]

Hmm

Exclusively in bf5?

[opaque saddle]

usually 6C6T can reach 100% usage and 12T won’t be

[plain stag]

Or across the board

Oh nvm

I read

[slim thunder]

How do I enable SMT

[plain stag]

Decrease performance

Lol

[slim thunder]

and also how do I make sure all cores are enabled

[plain stag]

Smt should be enabled by default

But if you see 12 cores in task manager

It's enabled

[slim thunder]

I only have 6 cores in Task manager and 12 logical processors

[plain stag]

Yes

It's enabled

[slim thunder]

great

[plain stag]

You can also right click on the graoh

And display per core graphs

Instead of a single graph

Also, in ryzen master SMT button should be green

When you enable advanced settings

[slim thunder]

Is SMT Simultaneous Multithreading?

[plain stag]

Smt is enabled by default, so I have no reason to think its disabled somehow

Yes

[slim thunder]

yeah then its enabled

[plain stag]

Aka hyperthreading on intel side

[opaque saddle]

What’s the power settings

[slim thunder]

so no matter what I do both BF1 and 5 will run at 100% CPU usage?

[plain stag]

Well if you run lower settings

[opaque saddle]

Under power management

[plain stag]

You're putting more strain on the cpu

[slim thunder]

My settings are at medium

[opaque saddle]

Nah I mean desktop power management

[plain stag]

If you put on ultra, its gonna drop

[opaque saddle]

Should be using the Ryzen settings

[slim thunder]

im getting confused

[opaque saddle]

And I use low settings in bf1 for my ultrawide 1440p display

[plain stag]

In game settings is what i mean

[opaque saddle]

If you have set your settings to too high, either your CPU or your GPU can’t catch up

[plain stag]

Cuz when you lower settings the gpu feeds the cpu more information, hence why cpu usage is higher on lower settings

[slim thunder]

Probably my CPU because my GPU is at around 40-50% usage

[plain stag]

Yep

You are cpu bound

[slim thunder]

Wait so if I ran the game at Ultra it might drop?

[plain stag]

Yes

[slim thunder]

heck

Ill try it

[plain stag]

But gpu utilization will go higher ofc

[slim thunder]

yeah that makes sense

[plain stag]

Gpu will prob be at 100%

And cpu at like 80

But keep in mind, something will always cause a bottleneck

Be it a cpu, gpu or ram

You cant escape it

[slim thunder]

I have 16gb of ram

[plain stag]

Yes, but the speed of ram

Ram is relatively slos

Slow

Compared to gpu memory, or cpu cache

[slim thunder]

Im trying it right now

[plain stag]

You might even get higher fps

[slim thunder]

using the MSI Afterburner OSD my GPU is at around 70% but my CPU is actually around 50 now

[plain stag]

But prob not

You have a good system

Let it stretch out its legs

[slim thunder]

wow its running way better now

[plain stag]

Unless you want more competitive settings

[slim thunder]

I think I might put it at high with some settings at ultra

[plain stag]

I always play at max settings

If it doesn't interfere with fps

[slim thunder]

cause my GPU is hovering between 60-80% and my CPU is hovering between 50-65%

[plain stag]

But my world now is 720p all lowest settings

Yeah

Your gpu was pretty much chilling

While your cpu was going ham processing all the shit that gpu was doing

By going ham, it was just running at 100% xd

[slim thunder]

lmao

Honestly it confuses me, but its awesome that running on ultra settings did better than on medium

especially since my game looks like an absolute dream

[plain stag]

So how much fps do you have now

And how much before

[slim thunder]

Before I was getting 50-70

Now I'm getting 120+

I capped my FPS at my monitors refresh rate so in some areas I get 144

I think the lowest it got was around 115

Thanks man

[plain stag]

Ouff

Well, thats because your gpu was literally doing nothing

While your cpu couldn't keep up

[slim thunder]

Lmao

[plain stag]

Okay, not entirely

Your gpu was being too fast

At rendering and calculating shit on the screen

[slim thunder]

Suffering from Success?

I guess?

[plain stag]

And it was sending information to the cpu too much

[slim thunder]

Rip

[plain stag]

And the cpu couldn't process all that information fast enough

[slim thunder]

So CPU usage was super high

[plain stag]

Yes

[slim thunder]

Now it makes sense

[plain stag]

By increasing settings

[slim thunder]

Thanks for explaining man

[plain stag]

Your gpu needed more time to render and calculate

Which in turn was slow enough for the cpu to process and have some breathing room

Ofc, we are talking about nanoseconds here

When you look at all this from another angle, gpus are more advanced and way faster than cpus at doing calculations

Gpus are really good at doing floating point operations

They are much faster at doing that kind of math, compared to the cpu

[prime jasper]

Why mi battlefield camera do this

[ashen ether]

3 power outages last night

and my PC wont post

i switched off the outlet switches and turned it back on

and my pc just turned itself on after i switched it on again

but the pc boots now\

[chrome skiff]

invest in a ups

[dull solstice]

BIOS is gone. May need a repair.

Otherwise, component failure to a catastrophic degree has occured.

[prime jasper]

I got DDR4 atm, and I'm thinking of getting an SSD for a replacement, can anyone give me tips / suggestions

[dull solstice]

SATA, or M.2?

[prime jasper]

M.2 I think would be better.

[storm osprey]

For just gaming get the cheapest dram ssd you can, if an m.2 is close in price, get that.

Ssd like sn550 don’t have dram but make up for it somehow with hmb

[dull solstice]

What about the NAND flash cell layering?

[arctic dragon]

!specs

Can I run bf 2042 at like at least 720p all lowest settings with these specs?

I7-8565U
MX150 2GB
16GB ram

I know its kinda cringe to ask but rn I don't have a gaming pc and I don't think I'll get one till next year but I still wanna play bf 2042 when it comes out.

[weak girder]

idk but it doesnt look good for the gpu

[toxic zealot]

!specs

!!specs

!!specs

!!specs

[latent light]

Very much doubt

PS4 would be a smoother experience lol

I'm also doubting Steam Deck will run BF2042 good

[ashen ether]

I currently have a Ryzen 3 3100 with 1650super, should I just get a Ryzen 5 3600 or save a lot longer for 5600x?

[dry pike]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[opaque saddle]

Not really coz there is no point. If you wanna do a proper upgrade, you should swap out both CPU and GPU.

[ashen ether]

i dont earn that much money

i'm aiming for a 6 core cpu because i know BF2042 will use a lot of it

and i currently have a quad core

also, pretty sure my 1650super can do enough

[toxic zealot]

eh

do you need more than 60fps

[ashen ether]

i currently get 100+ fps on BFV tho

[opaque saddle]

I reckon there is no point of upgrading…

You don’t get too much FPS gain with 3600

Or 5600x

[prime jasper]

Yeah

[toxic zealot]

not sure why people keep telling me that battlefield was cpu intensive

at any point in history

when this dud gets 100fps+ on some low end 4 core cpu

not like bf 2042 will change much

[opaque saddle]

It is cpu intensive. However, if you know that pc was built like a year ago, then you know you wouldn’t recommend upgrading

Let me reword it this way… it is actually both CPU and GPU intensive

[ashen ether]

my 0.1% lows drop as low as 60

[toxic zealot]

it is cpu intenstive

but fx 8350 can run it at 50 fps (lows)

bf v

sure

[opaque saddle]

My pc was struggling to run BFV at 90-110fps

Coz i got an 1440p ultra wide

So I got a 3600 and 2070S

[toxic zealot]

well

thats still good

typical AAA game on 1440p

with 2070s

at 100 fps?

good luck

gpu bound for most people

[opaque saddle]

Still. As long as it is better than 75fps gaming. I’m not so happy to replace my hardware

[toxic zealot]

cant reach 200fps like bf4 tho

[opaque saddle]

My pc got 120fps in bf1

[toxic zealot]

bf1 is almost the same graphics as v from what ive seen

[visual quail]

i get an easy 100+ fps in bf1 but bf5 tries its hardest to get 70

[opaque saddle]

I think that is related to the engine tbh

[toxic zealot]

but i heard bf v is optimized worse

[supple bane]

no

i get more fps in bfv than i do in bf1

i find bfv is much better optimised than bf1

[lapis warren]

guys

want to play 1080p in 144fps on my 144hz monitor in BF2042. I own a Ryzen 5 3600.. and my gtx 980ti will be too weak to reach that level.
what can you recommend me? I play with low details (+config file)

[toxic zealot]

better gpu

[lapis warren]

which then to hit 144fps in that combo

[cedar moth]

Intel xe

Anyone waiting for Alder Lake this fall?

[rocky marlin]

if you can get a 6700xt/3060ti it could be fairly easy to get 144hz

in 1080p

[keen sinew]

guys wat do u think is better for bf 2042 SAPPHIRE Nitro AMD Radeon RX 570 8GB or AMD Radeon RX 560 4GB (im building my first pc so i need to make good decision it will help alot if u advise me)

[cedar moth]

Suggest nvidia because of dlss

[quick locust]

There's a large difference between those two, get the 580 if you can

[supple bane]

those cards are two generations old.

you should be able to get a much better deal by getting something new

if you wait for prices to settle

[keen sinew]

like wat?

[keen sinew]

XFX AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB u mean this?

should i get that?

[supple bane]

here the 2060 is cheaper than a 580

and is much faster

dont get an rx 500 series. its just not a good idea

not unless you are on a super tight budget

they are over 4 years old. most people get a new gpu when they are around 3-4 years old

so you are buying a new card that is already on its last legs really

[keen sinew]

yh i am sadly

[quick locust]

i mean of those two, 580 is much better than the 560

but yeah, they're both older gpus

[keen sinew]

yh

[lapis warren]

@rocky marlin why do you think that this will be sufficient?

[gleaming raptor]

1660 super > 2060

[rocky marlin]

tap on youtube 3060ti/6700xt in games
you have tons of benchmarks in differents games in differents resolution

[weak girder]

nah

[lapis warren]

but not with the 5 3600 i guess

[rocky marlin]

hmm maybe not, its a very popular cpu
try "3060ti R5 3600 in games"

[arctic crag]

That’s not true at all

[prime jasper]

!!specs

a

[fallen harbor]

this depends on the tier. If I got an 1080ti when it came out i would still use it and not think about upgrading any soon

[toxic zealot]

i got 1080

will upgrade when 40xx comes out

or new navi

[quick locust]

I used to run 1080 but had horrible cooler on it

So decided to change it

[toxic zealot]

i bought new cooler for 1080

[quick locust]

I had the msi armour one

[toxic zealot]

but i cant control fan speed for some reason

because gpu fan pin doesnt work

[quick locust]

Lol

[toxic zealot]

i have it connected directly to powersupply

[arctic crag]

You could have changed the cooler to nzxt or something

It’s 50$

[fallen harbor]

btw speaking of coolers i put an id se903 on my sister’s i7 3770 and it went from 90c to 55c in bf1 and other games, pretty cool, no pun intended

[toxic zealot]

idk

maybe cpu fan 2 would work

[quick locust]

Wasn't really worth it, I sold my 1080 and bought a vega 64 for cheaper than what I got for my 1080

[toxic zealot]

for controlling temps somehow

[arctic crag]

Is that the nzxt gpu cooler?

[fallen harbor]

you cant control anything that is connected to the psu i think

[toxic zealot]

no

[arctic crag]

Idk but it looks like you can’t control the fans of a custom cooler

[toxic zealot]

its Accelero Xtreme IV

[quick locust]

You can if connected to motherboard or GPU headers

[toxic zealot]

header on the gpu itself dont work

fans dont spin

[quick locust]

If you connected to motherboard you just need to use bios or similar to do

[arctic crag]

Nah doesn’t work

I mean it should work but it doesn’t

[fallen harbor]

id connect it to the mobo pins but afaik it will spin accordingly to cpu temp. Still better than nothing

[arctic crag]

Which is really weird

[toxic zealot]

i need some cable to get it to cpu pin size

its too small connector

[fallen harbor]

oh

[toxic zealot]

i have adapter from small to cpu size but for power supply

so like how do i call it

male type

[fallen harbor]

dunno

[toxic zealot]

lol

[arctic crag]

Imagine getting a 46c max temps on a gpu lol

[toxic zealot]

anyone knows what are those connectors called

then maybe i can find adapter

[quick locust]

GPU fan header on my old laptop died, so it ran at 97C idle

So I just disabled the gpu

[arctic crag]

I believe that laptop is in the trash rn right?

[quick locust]

Well it still works other than that

[arctic crag]

Laptops aren’t good

Today’s laptops are a lot better but still

[quick locust]

They are just 3 pin connectors usually

[proud trellis]

i have finally managed to get a new chair

[quick locust]

Nice

Which

[proud trellis]

corsair T1 i think it was

[quick locust]

They have chairs? Huh

[proud trellis]

yeah they have done them for a few years now i think

[toxic zealot]

i wont buy next gaming chair unitll i see how its build inside

i broke last one

and they had to redo entire weld

[quick locust]

I just use an office chair, it's decent

[latent light]

Zen3 refresh could end up a lot faster than the keynote demonstration

They still refining the design

[toxic zealot]

eh

bring prices down

idc about those new pay 300$++ to get mid range cpu prices

[quick locust]

It's mostly finished by now

CPU development takes years

[quick locust]

They can do that due to shortage and because they are ahead of intel in performance

They increased prices across the board

Slightly

[latent light]

3D V-cache chips on Zen3+ are 6nm

But CCD is still 7nm

[quick locust]

You can get 10400 and 11400 cheap though

And 3500

[toxic zealot]

5600x is not compelling

when 10400f costs almost half that

both 6 cores similar perf

chiplet gpu is interesting

i heard something about quadrupling performance

but thats prob not true

[latent light]

5600X is a good bit faster, good for those who want consistency at 144+ fps

[toxic zealot]

unless they have some 400w+ gigachip

with navi 33

[latent light]

Navi 33 is a single chip

Navi 31/32 are multi-chip

[toxic zealot]

why they have both single and multi chips

[quick locust]

Intel GPUs will be multi as well

[toxic zealot]

so 33 is low end?

[quick locust]

For some of them

[toxic zealot]

im not interested in intel gpus

[latent light]

Navi 33 is gonna have same shader count as Navi 21 but have double the cache

[toxic zealot]

untill they prove it can do anything for my use case aka gaming lol

[latent light]

Navi 34 could even end up faster than Navi 21 lol

[toxic zealot]

could even?

isnt it supposed to be faster regardless

lol

[latent light]

Entry level beating the previous flagship

[toxic zealot]

so 34 is entry level?

and lower down is faster?

[latent light]

Ye

[toxic zealot]

well yea

when you have multi chip design like that

you see what happens

higher yields

can sort chips by performance

more heat dissipation

more efficient

now then

they gonna need 3D cache by default

gpus really need a lot of fast memory

with low latency

[latent light]

Already heard there's at least 6 cache chiplets on Navi 31

[quick locust]

Intel will do this as well

[toxic zealot]

well yea

intel has the guy who "invented" the idea

[quick locust]

And they already have some

[latent light]

Intel is gonna put HBM3 on their next-gen Xeon CPUs

[toxic zealot]

hbm3?

as a cpu cache?

[latent light]

As an L4

[toxic zealot]

oh

yea

it would be way too slow for l1

dont even know what they use for l1

exactly

just know its infinitely faster than any other memory type

[latent light]

L1 and L2 are present in the GPU chip itself

[quick locust]

Intels Ponte Vecchio

[toxic zealot]

ugly design

but if it work it works

xD

[latent light]

A lot of silicon

[quick locust]

Yeah

And intel 7nm

[fallen harbor]

random question, how can you check single core performance of a cpu other than the ghz?

[toxic zealot]

benchmark it

[fallen harbor]

other than benchmarking

[toxic zealot]

what do you want to do

[fallen harbor]

like, just by looking at the specs

is it possible to tell

[toxic zealot]

you cant

[fallen harbor]

or is it as chaotic as gpus

[toxic zealot]

no

[fallen harbor]

oic

[toxic zealot]

because ipc exists

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/press-release/adata-announces-xpg-ddr5-memory-up-to-12600-mt-s

DDR5 at 12.6 GHz

[toxic zealot]

jesus

why they use mega transfers

that unit doesnt even exist

so 6.3ghz

i would assume

[quick locust]

12.6 MT/s

6.3 GHz

[latent light]

Ah

Nvm

[quick locust]

Just a lot mix up the two

Like the amount that write 3200 MHz kits

When it's 3200 MT/s

[toxic zealot]

for smoother gameplay

lets see if it actually does somethin

[latent light]

CPUs don't benefit greatly from a new generation of RAM

Just look at 4790K vs 6700K

[toxic zealot]

workstations do

zen cpus dont like below 3000mhz

but like

3500+ is giving 0 performance

unless you run rtx 3090 at 1080p

[quick locust]

MT/s

[toxic zealot]

stop

get some help

[quick locust]

😎

[toxic zealot]

seems like very high framerates like fast ram

like 300fps

from what i last checked

[quick locust]

Because then the CPU and the ram becomes the bottleneck

I run 3600 cl 14

ECC will also be a decent benefit

[toxic zealot]

new nvidia gpus apparently 2.5ghz clock

how many watts did it cost?

[quick locust]

AMDs can hit 3 GHz right now

[toxic zealot]

on which gpu

[quick locust]

6800XT and 6900XT

[toxic zealot]

oh yea

tbh that didnt give thaaat much perf

[latent light]

Intel Alder-Lake has high current draw

[quick locust]

No issue for my psu

[native cape]

anyone has an idea how to fix origin,... everytime i download a game, then for a minute or so it just auto pauses even it will stop downloading, goes to 0kbps.

[arctic crag]

How about reinstalling it?

[native cape]

i tried it, btw i just reformatted my pc just for that, and i think it keeps going on and on.

[arctic crag]

You mean reset?

[native cape]

it goes to 5mbps max and down to 0kbps

[native cape]

yeah my pc

when i resume it,... it will continue the download but after a minute it will auto pause and stops downloading

[arctic crag]

You should have fresh installed the windows instead

Reset doesn’t really fix much

[native cape]

i mean yeah fresh, my typo

upgraded my 1909 to 20h2

i fresh install yeah

[arctic crag]

This problem used to happened to me origin is a pathetic launcher

Try EA desktop

[native cape]

oh you say... have you found any fix or something that will neutralize this

[arctic crag]

I did a clean install of windows and everything went alright

I’m not really sure because that happened long time ago

[native cape]

never heard of this but, shitt... i think the gui of ea app is more promising than origin 😂

imo

ngl

[arctic crag]

EA desktop isn’t the best thing out there but at least it’s better than origin

[supple bane]

specs can be misleading. amd fx chips were 8 cores at 4+ ghz, which sounds very good even today. but they sucked then and really suck now 😛 so just cuz a gpu hits 3ghz doesnt instantly make it the fastest

[arctic crag]

Btw it’s beta so expect some bugs/glitches

[native cape]

i think im gonna cancel out my downloads in origin and quick swap to ea app 😂

[arctic crag]

Yeah mate good luck

[arctic crag]

I saw people frying eggs on it lol

[native cape]

already at 74% tho in origin, well wild shits happening lately and recently, so i hope this ea app will not shit on me 😂

[arctic crag]

What are you downloading?

[native cape]

battlefield v and 1

[keen shore]

Is the rtx 3060ti worth the money?

[native cape]

been downloading it 5 hours straight

[arctic crag]

Pretty sad

[native cape]

my max dl speed was 35mbps

[marsh fern]

not with that prices right now

[native cape]

every minute passes its just there auto pausing and auto stopping downloads 😂

[keen shore]

I can’t achieve a stable 144+ in bf1

[arctic crag]

If you find one at msrp fk yeah it worth every cent

[marsh fern]

what CPU

[keen shore]

And my fps in bfv is 100 - 120

ryzen 5 3600

[native cape]

different topic, but ya'll think g2a was kinda legit to buy games?

[marsh fern]

which resolution

[keen shore]

1080p

[arctic crag]

It’s like any gray market

[marsh fern]

current gpu

[keen shore]

1660 super msi gaming x

[native cape]

i expect there will be scams stuff like that?

[marsh fern]

i mean you can play that right now so I would wait until the prices are better and go for an 3070

thats really worth it

[arctic crag]

Ofc some sellers are scammers but you should buy from sellers with high rating

[keen shore]

Too expensive I don’t expect the prices to go down anytime soon

[native cape]

its high risk i guess, i would stick to amazon or wait for some bigass discount percent 😂

[arctic crag]

Also g2a offers a monthly subscription that has a protection incase of invaild keys

[marsh fern]

if youre lucky to the end of the year but im also sceptic that the prices are going down

[keen shore]

I can hit 144 sometimes but it really annoys me when it drops below refresh rate

[arctic crag]

Not really I bought from them before

Instant gaming is more safe

It’s like g2a

[native cape]

you say

[keen shore]

I found a 3060ti for $550

[marsh fern]

i mean if its worth for you to buy one because you get the fps stable then go for it

[arctic crag]

But there is only one seller the website itself

[marsh fern]

wher

e

[wintry prairie]

Buy it

[native cape]

hmm enlighten me

what is that

the name

[arctic crag]

Instant gaming

[native cape]

was planning to buy the two OG battlefields

3 and 4

back in the old days these two were rocking the gaming community 😂

[keen shore]

Good deal or scam?

[arctic crag]

If I were you I would wait for a sale on origin

[wintry prairie]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[marsh fern]

i mean this depends where you wanna buy this 3060ti

[arctic crag]

Still rocking

[marsh fern]

i wouldnt buy them on ebay

[wintry prairie]

Buy from legit place.

[marsh fern]

yes

[keen shore]

It is from a legit place

[marsh fern]

which site

or store

[arctic crag]

550$ on eBay?

Wouldn’t even bother myself

[marsh fern]

https://www.alternate.de/Gainward/GeFroce-RTX-3060-Ti-Ghost-LHR-Grafikkarte/html/product/1769373

found this one

nice watched a minute ago threre were 3 of them now its out of stock

[native cape]

yeah even to this day 😂 , their titles were never forgotten, no offense but i think many people find battlefield 4 and 3 were good than 5

[arctic crag]

Just wait prices will come back to normal soon

[native cape]

well except for 1, i liked its campaign and multi 💯

[keen shore]

Wth is this brand

Gainward

[arctic crag]

BF5 was shit ngl

[native cape]

i see instagamingwas legit

saw positive reviews

[arctic crag]

Yeah it’s legal

[fierce gull]

GJ ^^

[marsh fern]

the brand is legit but a small brand not as famous as msi or asus

[fierce gull]

I buy 3060 ti Founders Edition For $ 550

[arctic crag]

From?

[fierce gull]

Russia :3

[arctic crag]

Nah where did you buy it

[native cape]

i might try purcashing tomm, gotta get that 3 and 4

is bfbc2 player base still alive?

[arctic crag]

Wish you good luck mate

[arctic crag]

Not really

[native cape]

i swear this game was the king of all bf's

[fierce gull]

In Russia there were only 120 pieces of 3060 ti FE

[native cape]

the first time i played it, was hyped of its theme, the vietnam dlc

[arctic crag]

I’ve played it once in 2017 it was a good experience

[fierce gull]

How much do you currently have video cards?
2060 and 3060 for example

so where are you from

[arctic crag]

Me?

[marsh fern]

i have an 2080

but bought this 2 years ago

[native cape]

yeahh

[fierce gull]

And what are the prices for video cards?

[storm osprey]

this really confuses me...

[arctic crag]

We have plenty of cards here in Egypt but sold 2x the msrp

[storm osprey]

how much are 2060 and 3060 in my region?

[marsh fern]

i bought it for 750euro

[marsh fern]

where ya from

[native cape]

thats expensive man

[storm osprey]

usa

[marsh fern]

it was like two weaks after release

so

ik

[native cape]

oh thats whyy, i see

[arctic crag]

Rtx 20series was Nvidia beta test of rtx/dlss

[marsh fern]

also bought one of the more expensive models is a zotac amp extreme

[marsh fern]

true

[fierce gull]

2060 - 920$
3060 - 1100$
Price in Russia

[native cape]

its like purchasing bf2042 beta and shits expensive rn

[marsh fern]

rtx is on 20cards like trash

[arctic crag]

You basically payed them 750£ to beta test their product

[fierce gull]

But we can buy card a good prices

[native cape]

damn, i swear the last time i purchased mine 2060 like roundabout 380bucks

[arctic crag]

Anyone building a PC now is an idiot

[jolly dirge]

^me

[arctic crag]

I’m sorry mate lol

[fierce gull]

We have very sad prices for electronics in Russia.Since this is all exported from America/Europe.

[jolly dirge]

building my first custom pc then all the shit started and ended up with rx 580 :C

[native cape]

because of the pandemic i see, even kfc's prices going high up, demn it sanders 😂

[arctic crag]

Sorry to hear that I feel you

[arctic crag]

Lmao

[fierce gull]

For you to buy an iPhone is something ordinary, but for us to work for at least a month and the entire salary will go to it

[native cape]

all i can say is, it's expensive man, not worth it, its like the price is 2-3x lmao

[arctic crag]

Yes I can relate

[fierce gull]

Well, we are already used to it

[fierce gull]

[native cape]

i think that price gone through that shit customs and made their prices high af 😂

[fierce gull]

Name any equipment and its price and I will tell you how much it costs in Russia, believe me, the prices will surprise you

[arctic crag]

Typical Governments be like:Oh we don’t have money let’s milk the shit out of our people

[native cape]

i guess 3300x gone way up higher than it was before 😂

[fierce gull]

Ryzen?

[native cape]

r3 3300x, shit was top tier and affordable good for the bucks also

[native cape]

yea ryzen 3 330x

[arctic crag]

16gb Corsair vengeance 3200mhz

Lpx

[fierce gull]

price for u?

[fierce gull]

price for u?

[native cape]

ive had an alternate pc and purchased iit for 130bucks

[arctic crag]

Nah I’m asking for the price in Russia

Here it’s like 100$

[fierce gull]

:с 210$

[fierce gull]

190$

[arctic crag]

Wtf mother Russia

[fierce gull]

The most fun for us is the Valve Index, it costs you $ 1000?

[native cape]

lmao, im gonna pass for that price, for sure it is 😂

[fierce gull]

We have a price for the Valve index starting from $2100

[lean cipher]

why is bf5 so blurry

[arctic crag]

1900$ here lol

[arctic crag]

Motion blur?

[lean cipher]

like the view distance

[arctic crag]

Make it 0%

[lean cipher]

i do

bf5 vision is bad

the view quality

[fierce gull]

I looked at the prices in the incentive and it costs you 1000 dollars

[arctic crag]

Maybe it’s the setting?

[lean cipher]

most is on low

[arctic crag]

Where?

[fierce gull]

1 moment i install vpn

[native cape]

LOL, never heard of valve, but srsly wth is that thing,with that price, looks like an apple product to me 😂

[arctic crag]

Now it’s bf5

Fk bf5

Trash game

[arctic crag]

It’s a VR kit

[lean cipher]

the view quality on bf5 isnt great

i think its cuz the graphics are amazing

which hinders on other stuff like vision

[fierce gull]

Ye, Valve Index VR Kit 999$ for you

For me 2100 bcs Russia

[arctic crag]

That’s the only thing Dice did right in bf5

[arctic crag]

Maybe it’s not the original one

[native cape]

id be better paying for my car's taxes than a 2k grand vr kit 😂

[fierce gull]

Because it is not officially sold in Russia, so it costs so much

[native cape]

that's for some like noble kids out there 😂

[fierce gull]

Probably we only have better prices for games than you do

[arctic crag]

Absolutely steam Russia is a lot cheaper

[fierce gull]

How much Battlefield 2042 standard?

[native cape]

i bet vodka would be too?

[lean cipher]

ye but vision isnt great lol

[native cape]

shit was hot tho even when you chaser

[fierce gull]

@native cape

[native cape]

i think its 45bucks

[fierce gull]

???stop

really?

no

60 $

[native cape]

now for listen.. for the ultimate edition it's i think 90 bucks or something

[fierce gull]

48$ for me ^^

[native cape]

and thats expensive af, id better wait for the discount 😂

[fierce gull]

ultimate edition 86$

[native cape]

and i see russian memes they oneshotting vodka? hell nah i didnt believe it at first, lmao

they one shotted a 35% alcohol level 😂 there was this viddeo, i think he drank 1 liter of it

[fierce gull]

vodka is not bad

but we cant drink this sh*t every day ^^

[native cape]

as ive thought 😂 mehhh 5 glasses of it and im done

[fierce gull]

Vodka is still easy, it has only 40% alcohol in it

[native cape]

that's really high you see 😂

[fierce gull]

but we have Samogon

In Samogon 60% alch

[native cape]

nowthat's something that is beyond my paygrade 😂

[fierce gull]

xD

[lean cipher]

textyure filtering high or low

3060 ti 5600x

bf5

[fierce gull]

Oh, I forgot. We still have Russian absinthe, which we can drink, it contains 85% alcohol

[fierce gull]

High i think

[fierce gull]

How do you feel in bf5?

[native cape]

that's high, its like you are drinking a gas from a vehicle 😂

[fierce gull]

its a normal for Russian people

[native cape]

i see, the weather i think?

hell, ya'll on negative temps 😂

[fierce gull]

idk

[native cape]

snow like that

[fierce gull]

We have a wonderful winter.
We don't have harsh winters, as everyone says. At least in the center of Russia there are none

[native cape]

i seee

[fierce gull]

Here in the north of Russia it can be -60 Celsius

[native cape]

wonder, where did you learn english

you seem to know it well

[native cape]

now thats a freezy weather

[fierce gull]

I wouldn't say that I know him well)
My written English is good, but I may not know some words, and I turn to a translator.

[native cape]

ohhh i see

[fierce gull]

Thank you for the warm conversation, but i went to drink vodka 😋

[native cape]

yeahh, i suggest you might want to try jack and daniels too

perfect with mtdews on it

[fierce gull]

oh, i drink it

However, in my opinion, it is expensive in Russia

0.7 L - 31$

How much for you?@native cape

[dry pike]

Are you discussing alchohol in #technology ?

moderator is confused

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-barZ_dUcw

mmmmmm

[arctic crag]

Who ever chose the colors of Noctua coolers should be fired

Looks ugly

Really ugly

[storm osprey]

just buy arctic p12

get 98% of noctuas performance for 1/3 of the price

[arctic crag]

I will see if I can find it in my country

[proud trellis]

your addicted to arctic p12's

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwftVMGPOiI

[arctic crag]

Not available sadly

[proud trellis]

tbh they look like decent fans its just there is no RGB

[arctic crag]

Fuck RGB

[proud trellis]

but u get extra frames

[arctic crag]

Yeah you’re right and 20% better accuracy

[proud trellis]

exactly

[arctic crag]

3 Corsair RGB fans cost 90$

[proud trellis]

do they

fuck

[arctic crag]

Yeah

[proud trellis]

im not a big fan of corsair fans

nyphon u want to see the note i put on u ?

[storm osprey]

yes

[proud trellis]

that he been there for months now not even lying

[storm osprey]

good, get it over with

[proud trellis]

ok i have changed it dw

i prefer lian li fans to corsair though

idk if they are more expensive then corsair though

[storm osprey]

i prefer arctic p12

[proud trellis]

we know

[arctic crag]

100$ lol

[proud trellis]

o

[storm osprey]

you can daisy chain arctic p12s too

so its like.. super convenient also

literally their only objective flaw is 1000rpm hum

[proud trellis]

would having RGB and none RGB fans in the same case work

like lets look at the lian li 011 for example, you could have RGB fans on the side,top and back but then could u have none RGB fans on the bottom ?

[arctic crag]

It’s like eating apple after chocolate

[proud trellis]

ahh

[arctic crag]

I bet 50% of Corsair money come from RGB fans

[storm osprey]

i want ALL my fans in my case to be the same

thankfully, arctic p12 so cheap its easy to do

[arctic crag]

Wonder what PSU do you have?

[storm osprey]

evga g3 850w

[arctic crag]

Neat

Imagine having a PSU with RGB fan

[storm osprey]

but why

[arctic crag]

I asked the same question

And nobody replied

They even made 24pin and 2x8 cables rgb

[proud trellis]

thats the most pointless thing lol an RGB PSU fan

[arctic crag]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they made an RGB dildo next

[storm osprey]

im sure there are some cases that show off a psu

[arctic crag]

Even m.2

Sata ssds

[proud trellis]

wait what

lol

[proud trellis]

tbh i wouldnt be suprised if that comes out tomorrow

[wicked wedge]

tfw you've used one so much you unlock "RGB camo"

[midnight crypt]

already exists

[arctic crag]

You gotta be kidding me

[tender horizon]

rgb quintuples your ram

confirmed by sources on twitter / reddit / onion

[wintry prairie]

Pretty much. RGB 2.0 should be 8x

[dry pike]

Win 11 Taskbar doesn't have the clock on the taskbar of any of your non-primary monitors and it is soooo annoying

[normal matrix]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[prime jasper]

windows 11 looks terrible

the worst of 8 combined with the worst of 10

and its inconvenient to use

[short pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/154285432857821184/826519572831010956/3nbv92fpw4q61.png

[midnight crypt]

Thats how youre supposed to do it

[prime jasper]

Yo guys, I turned on dx12 and my frames got lower and idk about video quality. I read that it’s supposed to boost frames; is this normal?

5800x + 3060 ti btw

[fallen harbor]

it's not supposed to boost frames

it's supposed to make some things look better

[prime jasper]

oh lol