technology

[supple bane]

raid 0 the hdd's

2.5 gig network card..

ezpz server

[prime jasper]

Yes lol def

[quick locust]

would prob not even need 128 GB boot drive

32 or 64 GB sd would be fine i think

[supple bane]

i can tell you though, i thought file servers needed decent single core performance. i can tell you this is not a thing, not a gigabit at least

whilst transferring files at gigabit on my r5 2600

0.8% load

[prime jasper]

Erm what's that link?

[plain stag]

Well, not entirely useless, at least he will have lower input lag, even tho if it was only 60hz screen, but we see now that he asks for 120

[quick locust]

https://www.computersalg.dk/i/5610928/asustor-nimbustor-4-as5304t-nas-server-4-bays-sata-6gb-s-raid-0-1-5-6-10-jbod-ram-4-gb-2-5-gigabit-ethernet-iscsi hows this @supple bane

[latent light]

New rumor about Xbox Series X slim version, based on TSMC 5nm, adds USB4 support

Well could be TB4 or USB4

Really just sounds like a smaller design with more I/O

[quick locust]

https://www.computersalg.dk/i/6501037/asustor-lockerstor-4-as6604t-nas-server-4-bays-sata-6gb-s-raid-0-1-5-6-10-jbod-ram-4-gb-2-5-gigabit-ethernet-iscsi and this

https://www.computersalg.dk/i/6504796/qnap-ts-431x3-nas-server-4-bays-sata-6gb-s-raid-0-1-5-6-10-jbod-5-hot-spare-6-hot-spare-10-hot-reserve-ram-4-gb-gigabit this has 10 gbps

oh well

they all seem decent

prob overkill for my use

[supple bane]

i dont know anything about "prebuilt" NAS

i just know what is needed and what isnt in a custom server

[quick locust]

yeah i know, just not finding many small cases with decent external bays

not ones in stock anyway

[sharp flicker]

anybody got stutters on bfv rt on

[quick locust]

yes

[atomic jackal]

so guys

ill send the pc to warranty about the cooler

should i send it or should i do it myself

bear in mind i dont have thermal paste with me

[plain stag]

considering that you dont know your way around pc's, its better to send it to a "professional"

they are quite "professional" when they cant even mount the cooler properly 🙃

[atomic jackal]

haha but its better than getting my pc parts stolen at a local pc shop

if the problem persists ill take the matter onto my own hands

i told them if they could reseat the fan and reapply thermal paste, and that my cpu is running very hot

but cant it get loose at cargo?

but i mean considering the fact that if the cargo was that intense it would cause dents wouldnt it

the reason i bought from this site was that only they had some good parts for a decent price

other sites have galax palit or xfx psu, gpu at the same price

could it be just that they had the pc on the stock for quite a lot and the paste just dried

[atomic jackal]

my handwriting is bad but i hope they will be able to read it hahaha

[plain stag]

tahts very possible, and it happens quite often

[atomic jackal]

the point is

there arent very good tech companies here

you either get overpriced hardware, or cheap but god knows who made it hardware on some sites

[plain stag]

well, the hardware that they get

is coming all from the same factories

but hardware is overpriced everywhere nowadays

especially gpus

and especially when it comes to SI companies

[atomic jackal]

yeah

thanks to some pricks

[plain stag]

theres a lot of factors

[atomic jackal]

covid, mining, scalpers yeah

way too many variables to say this one group is the sole reason

[latent light]

https://www.techspot.com/news/90619-next-gen-gpus-look-big-hungry-bad-news.html

4 slot founders edition when

450-500W TDP expected for RTX 4090

[wintry prairie]

What I've been working on today:

[digital hill]

Gotta say my new soundcard is good

Expect the software its pretty bad

Bought a new soundcard for optical 5.1

[wintry prairie]

[digital hill]

and most likely won't use the software as you can see its bad

[storm osprey]

i had a sound blaster sound card for the longest time, the software was wack, the soundcard didnt last long either, but man did it make everything sound better

[wintry prairie]

I used this one for the longest time. Pretty great card.
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Sound-Cards/Hi-Fi/Essence_STX_II_71/

[digital hill]

Ah I bought the soundblaster ae 5 plus

[storm osprey]

we used to play pubg but with voice changers on

the whole lobby would be dying with laughter

[long ridge]

Servers:
How much will be the cost and how much control by renters?

[wintry prairie]

For 2042?

I don't think there will be rent-able servers, at least not at launch.

[long ridge]

Yup, darn, thanks

[storm osprey]

no official news, only suggestions based on bf portal

[wintry prairie]

Anytime, and I think it is official.

[alpine anvil]

about to buy my CPU cooler maybe

** **

[wintry prairie]

NICE! Which one?

[storm osprey]

better be arctic

if not ill be disappointed

[alpine anvil]

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01KVNCEIG?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[wintry prairie]

Which CPU do you have?

[alpine anvil]

I am buying a whole new thing of stuff for my PC

(yes, my English is the best)

I got a new i7 10700KF

[storm osprey]

id recommend a beefy cpu air cooler for a 10700kf or a 240m aio

[wintry prairie]

Your English is great! And its fun to put systems together! 🙂

[alpine anvil]

is what I chose beefy? I get the impression it's not

[alpine anvil]

thank you :p I was just being silly with my sentence

knew it sounded wrong but

fun

[storm osprey]

i wouldnt call a bequiet! slim a beefy cpu

[wintry prairie]

There are better coolers. AIO optioons are nice and quiet 🙂

[wintry prairie]

Any good suggestions?

[storm osprey]

thats a BEEFY air cooler

[wintry prairie]

Which one is that?

[storm osprey]

bequiet! dark rock of some sort

[alpine anvil]

I've basically lived on PCs but never fully gotten into building/handling the hardware, since I never have the money to play around with parts lol

trying to learn more now

[wintry prairie]

https://www.amazon.ca/quiet-BK022-Cooler-6-Pole-Wings135mm/dp/B07BY6F8D9/ref=sr_1_1?crid=YQPJA51Z1KTI&dchild=1&keywords=be+quiet+dark+rock+pro+4&qid=1627954758&s=electronics&sprefix=be+Quiet!%2Celectronics%2C208&sr=1-1

[alpine anvil]

just found a cooler that looks more like a GPU than anything

[storm osprey]

personally, once you get around the 80 dollar price point for a good air cooler, id just spend the 20 bucks more and get a good 240mm aio

ah wait, canada, prices are weird there

[molten coral]

I would have given you my corsair A500 for free but unfortunately you live on a different continent

[alpine anvil]

still a very nice thing for you to think lol, thank you

[alpine anvil]

that looks like the kind of fan people use during summer, for themselves lol

[wintry prairie]

It really is a blast. And after you do it once, its a lot less stressful from there on out. I built my first windows system in 1994, and have built many since then.

[storm osprey]

@alpine anvil https://www.vuugo.com/coolermaster-cpu-cooler-MLW-D24M-A20PC-R1.html?tracking=5108053939762

[alpine anvil]

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B086BYYFG5?psc=1&th=1&linkCode=gs2&tag=pcp0f-20 This looks good and appealling (was the thing I said looks like a GPU)

oh hey

[storm osprey]

yea, for the price its the go to option

also, use pcpartpicker to compare products

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu-cooler/#sort=price&W=10240

[alpine anvil]

I have built my PC on PCPartPicker, i had a simple cooler previously

[storm osprey]

you get prices from all sorts of venders

[alpine anvil]

it's very useful

like

insanely

can not imagine PC stuff without it

[storm osprey]

tier 3, which would be good enough for stock, but maybe not an aggressive OC

[alpine anvil]

damn i didn't expect this much help and support lol, thank you guys

also i don't plan on really OCing

well

i've never had the option, since cursed PC

so for now i'm just working on having a good 'stock' run

the amazon link i sent, do you guys think that's a good choice?

[wintry prairie]

Anytime 🙂

[cerulean pine]

Your first ever PC build?

[alpine anvil]

Not exactly, but this one is more serious

uh

let me just explain

I built my PC over time with the help of my dad, I just got parts here and there and improved it over time

Never took it too seriously

Now I'm rebuilding the majority of my PC all at once

So it feels like my first PC build, but technically no

but yes

[cerulean pine]

What are you keeping?

[alpine anvil]

My drives, case and peripherals

[storm osprey]

as someone that has a 10700kf NOT OC either, my arctic liquid freezer ii 240m (one of the best bang for buck coolers), keeps my cpu around 60-65c for gaming.

house at 74c

[alpine anvil]

I was going to keep my RAM but it's lower speed and I wanted to ensure I avoided my previous problems

[cerulean pine]

RAM speed is odd it's like not actually as advertised

Like 3200Hz RAM isn't actually 3200Hz in the end

[alpine anvil]

I've heard something about that, but it's so hard to wrap my head around

[cerulean pine]

It is but it's only that speed by itself

If it's on a dual-channel it's slower

[alpine anvil]

My current 24GB is at 2133hz, my new 2x8 is at 3200mhz

[cerulean pine]

Or something like that

[alpine anvil]

Wait, slower on dual?

I thought pairing them was the way to go

[cerulean pine]

I remember seeing it in a manual

[wintry prairie]

Faster

DUAL

[cerulean pine]

It is faster but I remember seeing a diagram and it said if you dual channel it don't be 3200Hz

It was in a motherboard manual

[wintry prairie]

That's a nice cooler

[alpine anvil]

was telling my friend about this CPU cooling debate and he did this to me lmao

(the liquid is leaking)

[wintry prairie]

Not sure what it was reffering to exactly, so hard to tell, but the opposite is usually the case.

[cerulean pine]

`Due to DDR (Dual Data Rate), the "1065MHz" is actually running in DDR4 stock speed of 2133MHz (i.e., ~1065MHz x 2 = ~2133MHz).

For such 3000MHz RAM to work on its rated speeds, you can try to enable XMP settings in BIOS > M.I.T. > Advanced CPU Core Settings or Advanced Memory Settings > Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)`

[storm osprey]

is the cooler master 240m more than you want to spend?

[molten coral]

Something like that actually happened to a friend of mine and ended up with a dead mobo

[cerulean pine]

Some posters saying sometimes CPU must be overclocked for RAM to run at advertised speeds

[cerulean pine]

I don't think it's due to duel channel

It's something else

[alpine anvil]

This is the one I like, and the price is quite okay with me

[wintry prairie]

Yes, this means it defaults to 2133, DDR4 default. YOu need to set the XMP and it will go to your specific speed, example: 3200.

[cerulean pine]

So you need to overclock it

[wintry prairie]

Just set the XMP profile in Bios.

[molten coral]

Literally 1 button to enable XMP

Easiest thing in the world

[alpine anvil]

On my BIOS we could not get it working
Will make sure to do it on the new one

[wintry prairie]

If you try faster ram than the socket accepts, then XMP won't work. 🙂

[storm osprey]

@alpine anvil https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_135&item_id=174034 if you can somehow get this for this price, it would be a worthwhile upgrade, otherwise cm 240 v2 is what i would get

[cerulean pine]

Yeah I understand I just remember there being something about the RAM being less than it actually is

[wintry prairie]

It will be set to defult

Until you set XMP

[cerulean pine]

Yeah I understand

Just didn't know that

I always thought stock RAM came at advertised speed and I saw that diagram and I was like shit wtf is this

[alpine anvil]

I think I like the one I 'have' (the RGB one i shared), it seems like it can do the job

[cerulean pine]

Never really looked into it though lol

[alpine anvil]

If you think it'll work enough then

[wintry prairie]

LOL, yeah, I gotcha

[alpine anvil]

aaa

this is intimidating lol

[cerulean pine]

RIP to the peeps I built PCs for

[storm osprey]

of course, just the bequiet! would likely be much quieter (bequiet fans are pretty damn good)

[alpine anvil]

Oh I am not overly worried about noise, heck if I had to record i wouldn't be running anything loud

Do the fans idle/slow?

[cerulean pine]

Make sure to get RGB case lights

The more you get the higher the CPU power

[wintry prairie]

LOL

[storm osprey]

i cant imagine any modern cpu aio to not have PWM fans in them, so they should definitely slow down/ramp up when needed

[cerulean pine]

My pentium is running at 20GHz

[wintry prairie]

Even the little RGB I have I try to turn off . . .

[cerulean pine]

There's a video of a dude overclocking a pentium and cooling it with fucking nitrogen lmaoooo

[wintry prairie]

Doesn't everyone?

I water cool my keyboard for the extra FPS

[alpine anvil]

if there aren't any objections, i might order this cooler

[cerulean pine]

I make sure to wash my computer every month

[alpine anvil]

excited

i will get into that habit as best i can

[cerulean pine]

Give it a good scrub

[alpine anvil]

cleaning is good

[wintry prairie]

Go for it, you;ll like it

[wintry prairie]

I actually took apart my GPU and waterblock today . . . Cleaning out radiators probably tomorrow.

[cerulean pine]

I know it's your first major build or what not but I'd suggest looking into overclocking most things within a certain degree

There's no point not overclocking

[lofty light]

With ryzen there's little point in overclocking

At least 3000 and up

[storm osprey]

only other side note, is if you dont care about acoustics, evga clc 240 is loud (not sure how it is compared to cm 240), but the evga cools really good and comes from a good brand imo

edit: per forums the warranty on evga clc 240 is 5 years, while cm ml240 v2 is 2 years

[lofty light]

And recent GPUs have VERY little overclocking headroom

[wintry prairie]

EVGA is great! I got this cpu cooler: EVGA CLC 360mm. I may end up giving it to my brother.

[alpine anvil]

CLC looks good

[storm osprey]

whoa ok not for 137...

[alpine anvil]

price kinda hurts but i promised myself not to cheap out, i want this build to work its best

oh

damn

[cerulean pine]

You might aswell just get a 300$ cooler godamn dude

[wintry prairie]

OOOFFF! I got my 360 for way less than that 240

[cerulean pine]

That pic looks tacky as hell

[alpine anvil]

yeah it isn't the nicest looking

[storm osprey]

are those vendors an option?

[cerulean pine]

Remember if it has RGB it's OP

Get anything with RGB

[storm osprey]

im anti rgb...

[molten coral]

Just enable PBO and be done with it tbh

[storm osprey]

wtf, 240 and 280 aios are the same price xD

[alpine anvil]

will check

uh am i looking at the wrong one? these are all hitting the 150+

[storm osprey]

i would spend like 20 bucks more for the evga aio

man canada prices suck

[alpine anvil]

oh i found one for 108

[wintry prairie]

$69

[storm osprey]

usa hk?

[alpine anvil]

wait what

how

oh

[wintry prairie]

usa

but still

[alpine anvil]

the sale though, give that to us

why do only you guys get the sale offer

[storm osprey]

yea, canada gets fucked with pc prices for some reason

[wintry prairie]

damn

[storm osprey]

i have a friend that buys from usa and ships to canada and still saves money

[alpine anvil]

[wintry prairie]

Still cheaper than $109

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[alpine anvil]

let me tax it out and see

tax is 13% i think?

[wintry prairie]

oh geez

lol

How far are you from the border . . . .

[alpine anvil]

very close i think

[storm osprey]

WE FOUND A LOOPHOLE

[wintry prairie]

😂

[plain stag]

I wouldn't take it, even if it was free xd

Kinda funny how corsair completely dropped the ball with that cooler

[storm osprey]

it was shit for the price

[plain stag]

Absolutely horrid

[storm osprey]

its literally 2c behind noctua nh-d15, basically the go to air cooler sub 100 bucks

so the reviews go "why buy this when it costs more than the nh-d15"... and thats where it was at

a500 did drop to like 30 usd during some flash sale at one point though

[plain stag]

Coldplate flatness is just bad on it

[storm osprey]

2 major things that matter, performance per dollar, and cooling to noise ratio

cooling to noise ratio is not bad at all, its msrp to performance is shit

bringing up cold plat flatness when it performs 2c hotter than nh-d15 is kinda weird..

thats like saying it smells funky, it really doesnt matter

any reasonable person would easily take a free a500, if you wouldnt youre basically saying you wouldnt buy a nh-d15 for what, 20 bucks?

all that and i dont even like corsair

[plain stag]

Well, i dont like the design of a500, so no i still wouldn't take it

[storm osprey]

eh, i dont think aesthetics are a concern when it comes to a functional product

objectively its not a concern, but people make it a factor so theres that

[storm rune]

Does someone else have this problem? Im running bf5 on 170-200 fps but this game doesnt seem smooth at all. I have gsync on, 144hz but literally in cod warzone where i have 100-160 feels butter smooth even when i have 110 fps

[quick locust]

Try dx11

[quick locust]

Yeah I would

[dull solstice]

If G-Sync is on, the FPS range for it typically starts at...What, 138 FPS? Try capping it to that and see what happens.

[celest salmon]

Hi

[quick locust]

@supple bane went with TS-431X3 with toshiba N300 drives, was cheaper and seemingly better than the TS-453D

Sorry I pinged wrongly in general lol

Also seemed better than TS-453Be

[supple bane]

are you going any higher than gigabit ?

because if you are running them in raid 0 you will need it to get the best performance out of it

gigabit is 115 MB/s iirc. so even a single hdd is being bottle necked massively by that. and if you are running them in raid it gets even worse

[quick locust]

Yes

The x3 has 2.5 and 10

The WD and Synology ones around same price range only had 1 Gbe

[supple bane]

well youll need a 2.5/10 gig switch and a 2.5/10 gig NIC for your pc also

if you go 10 gig, that wont be cheap

however 2.5 gig will still bottleneck a raid array.

actually i take that back. you might be able to get away with just a NIC, i dont know if you can have 2 ethernet cables plugged into one machine, you would use your on board card for internet and then the 10 gig NIC would be plugged directly into the NAS

so you wouldnt need a switch

[quick locust]

I know

I can just use nic

For now

[supple bane]

so have you decided if you are going 2.5 or 10?

[quick locust]

Most of the cheaper Nas just get away with 1 Gbe and usb c so you can use 5 Gbps usb to pc

Well it's going to be next to my pc pretty much so both are doable

My Ethernet cables are fine for 2.5 as is but not my current switch

Don't think I will saturate a 2.5 for long though

With my use

[supple bane]

yeah it depends what you are using it for i guess

[quick locust]

And went with Toshiba N300 as they don't use SMR and the sea of WD red drives is a bit confusing

And cause I'm pretty happy with my X300 drive

[quick locust]

I don't have anything that supports 2.5 gbe though, but I guess I could connect my pc directly with it if I got a nic

my icotera router is just 1 gbe and so is my switch

[bronze plover]

does anyone have lg ultragear monitor ?? i want to copy ur settings

[arctic crag]

i9 9900k and you have stutters?

[toxic pier]

Ya

if future frame is on no stutters

only inital load

[arctic crag]

You should enable ff yeah

It will cause a little bit of input lag but you will see improvment in fps

Also what gpu do you have?

[toxic pier]

2070 super

[arctic crag]

Rtx 2070 super should be fine with dx12

[toxic pier]

do u have 0 stutters on dx12 ?

[arctic crag]

Idk i haven't played bfv for so long

[toxic pier]

bf1 stuttered too on dx12

[arctic crag]

dx12 in bf1 is poor

Dx12 in bfv should be fine

[toxic pier]

stutters are not all the time tho

once u play for abit it stops

[arctic crag]

Just turn on future frame rendering

[toxic pier]

like it loads the map and shit prolly in shader cache

once it loads it all its fine

[arctic crag]

You're totaaly right

I've experinced that before

You have it on ssd right??

bfv

[toxic pier]

nah hdd right now

but had bf1 on ssd and hdd

stuttered on both

[storm osprey]

is dlss even available on bfv mp? if it is i assume its only available on dx12

[toxic pier]

the dlss gave me no fps i heard its only for 4k

and u cant even enable it unless u have rtx on

dunno whats the logic behind it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[storm osprey]

huh weird

but yea, the main games are for 4k, very slightly 1440p

[toxic pier]

no one plays in 4k lets be real

specailly a competitive fps

[arctic crag]

No rich people do

[toxic pier]

lol

[storm osprey]

its more so for things like sp games

[visual field]

anyone knows hot to solve high ping problems?

[arctic crag]

Call your internet provider and tell him/her fix the fking internet asshole

[storm osprey]

basically the settings are things like 1440p upscaled to native resolution, 1080p upscaled to x resolution

the setting under 1080p will render ay 720p which just isnt enough information to fill in the gaps with dlss ai

so thats why its really only beneficial to 1440p and 4k

[visual field]

lol chill my wifi is good if it wasn't the case I'm not that stupid too ask something like "why my internet is bad"

sorry I'm italian I don't speak English very well

[arctic crag]

Just make sure you have your wifi driver installed and you should be fine

[near fiber]

Well, i might try here then too. Does anyone have a magical cure all to fix DX12 stuttering on BFV? or borderless window stuttering?

[arctic crag]

what's your gpu/cpu

[near fiber]

R5 2600 stock speeds and a 2070 gaming XC ultra black

[supple bane]

dont use dx 12, thats the fix.

[near fiber]

16 gb of vengeance DDR4 3200 underclocked to 3000mhz

[storm osprey]

yea dx12 is just commonly stuttery

[near fiber]

because the 2600 doesnt really like above 3000mhz

[astral grove]

what do I do if DXR and DX12 are enabled and dlss wont show up its gray

on a 3070

[arctic crag]

Well looks like dx12 works with some and some doesn't so if you have stutters just switch to dx11

[near fiber]

I can live without DX12, but if i put the game in borderless window is tears and stutters like mad in DX11 too

[storm osprey]

why not use fullscreen

[near fiber]

and i need to be able to tab quickly due to... life circumstances

i can't really talk about

[arctic crag]

Maybe clean install your gpu driver

[near fiber]

So i'll deal with the input lag if i can find a fix for this

[astral grove]

got it

[arctic crag]

you know how to clean install right?

use ddu

[astral grove]

yeah

[arctic crag]

and install drivers normally

[astral grove]

can I ddu on normal or I have to go to safemode

[arctic crag]

I think it's more of a problem with the game itself

[arctic crag]

I personally perfer safe mode

[astral grove]

ok I wont be lazer better to be safe then sorry

[near fiber]

Well, the way that i figure is that it's disabling windows DWM right. Which means it can't vsync

but i don't know how to get it to NOT do that

[visual field]

ok thanks

[arctic crag]

You’re welcome mate

[arctic crag]

I think you should just play on full screen

[astral grove]

ok reinstalling nvidia driver

nope dlss is still grayed

out

fuck bf v im not gonna play it

too many issues and this is the only game giving me these issues so waste of my time

[latent light]

Make sure Windows 10 is version 1809 or newer

Display resolution matters too

DLSS on 4K display works with all RTX GPUs

But at lower resolution, top-end GPUs lose support

Although I feel like they've updated this and changed it

[wind axle]

Is it possible to change the Serverregion in Bf?

[storm osprey]

if you use server browser you can just search for other regions

[plain stag]

well thats your problem, youre on wifi

you will always have higher ping when youre on wifi compared to a wired connection

[arctic crag]

You’re right but WiFi isn’t that bad too

[plain stag]

eh, i'd never play on wifi, unless its my last resort

[arctic crag]

Me neither

[plain stag]

and unless the router is literally right next to me

[storm osprey]

just depends on a lot of factors

[fallen harbor]

whats the difference between an hyper 212 and a cooler that looks exactly the same but is 20 times cheaper?

[visual field]

I've always played on wifi, I'm not saying that I've never lagged but on bf1 lag every second i can barely play

[storm osprey]

without knowing which cpu cooler youre talking about it could be the materials used, pretty sure 212 uses copper heat spreaders, while something cheaper could use aluminum, which copper is better

[fallen harbor]

i see, makes sense

its just that the hyper 212 is as expensive as an 10400 for some reason where i live

[fallen harbor]

aka 25k pesos, when cheap coolers that look sinilar but other brands are only 2k pesos

[storm osprey]

yea thats not right

212 in usa is usually around 30 bucks, a 10400 usually around 160 bucks

[fallen harbor]

its for my sister’s 3770 which is reaching 90c in some games, i wonder if a cheap non stock cooler would make it not surpass 80

[storm osprey]

basically any decent air cooler will work

since you said pesos i assume youre in mexico?

[fallen harbor]

many latin american countries use pesos, im from argentina

would you recommend getting one of these cheap but big coolers?

[storm osprey]

ah, well im american so im woefully uneducated about other countries

[fallen harbor]

its fine dw

[storm osprey]

yea im looking at coolers right now

whats the case? are you sure you can fit a tall cpu cooler?

also

[fallen harbor]

2/3k is low price, 10k would be in the high end

hyper 212 is like 25k for some reason

[storm osprey]

hmm pcpartpicker argentina says otherwise

[fallen harbor]

id buy a new case if it doesnt fit. Right now she has a regular case. I think it could fit like a tetris piece but in case it doesnt ill just get a bigger but cheap case

[storm osprey]

of the options you screenshotted the id cooling cpus are the ones i would pick

[fallen harbor]

okie

[storm osprey]

idk which models those are, but id cooling are generally good for the price

[fallen harbor]

uh how much is it there?

[storm osprey]

this is showing usd and much cheaper prices, so i think something is differnt

[frail shale]

Anyone got the technology to sort out the servers on Xbox? Greatly appreciated

[fallen harbor]

ah we cannot import lol

we can but we have huge importation prices

we are in kind of a prison ngl

third world problems

[storm osprey]

wack

well yea, of the screenshots i would pick the cheapest id cooling one

not like a 3770 needs anything beefy

[fallen harbor]

okie tyvm

[heady pawn]

What’s the minimum GPU for BFV?

[prime jasper]

Gtx 660 or hd7850

But u need at least gtx 1060-1070 for smooth experiance

[supple bane]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[supple bane]

https://twitter.com/TheBFWiki/status/1422661223829544963

Battlefield Wiki (@TheBFWiki)

The #Battlefield2042 Private Technical Playtest will be held from August 12th to August 15th, 2021 on PS5, Xbox Series X, and PC. Check your emails for Keys!

Here are the system requirements:

Twitter · Aug 3, 2021, 8:50 PM

[arctic crag]

Gtx 1050 ti I expected that

Now all bullshit about will my rtx 3090 run bf2042 will stop

[proud trellis]

is top one minimum ?

[supple bane]

yes

[proud trellis]

hehe

[supple bane]

what?

[proud trellis]

i will just play low settings anyway

fuck it

[sour tinsel]

will my 3090 run 2042

[proud trellis]

[arctic crag]

Bitch please

You won’t run it with that trash gpu

Maybe 800x600 30fps

[sour tinsel]

😦

[arctic crag]

I’m wrong it’s not 30 it’s 25

[sour tinsel]

ngl though bf5 with my 3070 ryzen 7 3700x ran like shit 150 fps but tons of stutters

[arctic crag]

Dx12?

[sour tinsel]

nah d11 to

d12 was just wowzers bad

i could push 200 on low

[arctic crag]

Idk wtf is wrong with bfv

[sour tinsel]

but the game just felt so bad

stuttering skipping and shit

if 2042 is anything like that im getting a fat refund

[arctic crag]

Don’t worry

Battlefield Engine is one of the best out there

[sour tinsel]

they must of skipped bf5 lol

[arctic crag]

Yeah maybe

Idk why people are still even playing that crab

[wintry prairie]

Really? I thought BFV had DLSS, etc. And at what resolution are you talking about. I got over 200fps in BF4 on a 1080ti

¯_(ツ)_/¯

2042 with DLSS and REFLEX should run quite nicely

[arctic crag]

Hopefully they don’t fk that up like bf5

To activate dlss you have to activate rtx

Wtf dice what’s the point

[jolly dirge]

would bf 2042 run a stable 80+ fps no stutters on a rx 580 8gb 10400f 16gbram game looks really demanding high/medium settings

[wintry prairie]

There are no official specs yet.

[wintry prairie]

Looks like they were removed

[plain stag]

removed because its a breach of NDA

[wintry prairie]

Pretty much

[plain stag]

a whole number of people breached their NDA when they started talking about the email

[wintry prairie]

I first thought it was from EA, then I saw wiki

You can say you are in, but that;s about it

[plain stag]

well, technically those specs are from EA

since they were in the email

[wintry prairie]

If you say so . . .

😉

[plain stag]

well the email is form ea, obviously the specs are from ea as well

[wintry prairie]

hence the 😉

[next beacon]

Recommended is 2060.

Kinda scary ngl.

[latent light]

Lower-end Navi 33 (RX 7700/7600 XT?) has double the amount of Infinity Cache as Navi 21 (RX 6900 XT)

Navi 31 has quadruple the cache

We gonna see low-end GPUs beat current flagship with next-gen

[long ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOOUVN3WvFQ

[latent light]

There's both 5nm and 6nm silicon present on RDNA3 GPUs

5nm for CCD, 6nm for I/O

[latent light]

Ok got more detail

Navi 31 & 32 - 5nm CCD, 6nm I/O
Navi 33 & 34 - 6nm CCD, 6nm I/O

High-end flagships get 5nm cores, mid and low-end have 6nm cores

[floral tinsel]

Looking like shotgun shells

[supple oar]

so true

[astral tendon]

Hi, I have a laptop with a 1050 ti, i5, 8Go

Can i run Bf 2042 ?

[prime jasper]

Which i5 tho?

[midnight crypt]

Probably not

[lament flare]

GTX1060 (mobile)+ i7-7700HQ + 12 GB Ram
Is it possible to run 60 FPS in lowest setting (BF 2042)?

According spec from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxCG2YVXQDU

[near rune]

run what

2042?

[toxic zealot]

wow

you posted random 200 view video

as a trusted source

bruh

well yea

it seems like 1050ti is for min specs

and you have 1060 so whats the problem

at least thats what leaks say

[tacit magnet]

Hi, I nearly finished my PC build for both Battlefield 2042 as well as music (grand piano VST for classical music) and occasional server use as well as for drawing. But I wanted to know if a 272USD (230 euros) Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 To was worth it. I noticed that some people had lot of improvements when using NVMe M2 SSD but I can't tell because my laptop never had any other thing that a ADATA SX8200 XPG Pro which should be pretty close

[lament flare]

Yes

[tacit magnet]

(I'm still using my laptop until I get all my parts delivered)

[lament flare]

Yes I trust this source

[near rune]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[toxic zealot]

yes

[near rune]

but yes you can most likely run it

[toxic zealot]

thats "leaks"

[lament flare]

Thank you 😄

[near rune]

theres no official sources

confirming the specs

[toxic zealot]

but it would be weird if frostbite game cant run on 1060

dont recommend preordering ofc

[lament flare]

MY GTX1060 gonna be old tech soon...

[near rune]

i got a 3060 mobile

most people still have a 1060

because it was the go to card for budget setups for a few years

[tacit magnet]

I'm building a PC just to play Modded MC and Battlefield 2042 lol (as well as Cities Skylines since very recently) because my 1060 Mobile started to struggle a lot

Not very confident about staying on the 1060 tbh

[near rune]

minecraft can run on anything

[tacit magnet]

Not with SEUS PTGI E12 and various visual stuff

I get 20 fps with lot of things turned down

But again it's a java game with crap optimization

[toxic zealot]

minecraft java is not optimized well

[near rune]

did you allocate more ram

[toxic zealot]

and you are trying to run ultra shaders on non high end game

ram wont do anything

e12 is just that demanding

[near rune]

minecraft likes ram and single core performance

[tacit magnet]

E12 is the thing making you say "But does it run Minecraft"

[toxic zealot]

i cant run e12 at 60fps

with gtx 1080

[near rune]

never heard of e12

[tacit magnet]

I really want to get my ram cards and PC case so I can build my components

But still don't know if I should get the 230 euros 2To 970 Evo Plus

Lol

[toxic zealot]

for what

what do you need nvme speeds for

[tacit magnet]

For stuff™ but more seriously for gaming and also loading heavy ass VST for piano

[toxic zealot]

you dont need nvme speeds for gaming

[tacit magnet]

I know for the first one

[toxic zealot]

no game will run faster on nvme speeds

or load in that case rather

unless w11 direct storage actually works

[tacit magnet]

Didn't know about that

[toxic zealot]

i dont know about vst

if you have very big assets then yea

[tacit magnet]

It's just stuff like .wav files but tons of them

[toxic zealot]

it will load it faster

i guess

games suffer from other limitations

for loading

[tacit magnet]

Well then fair. Will get it. Tbh it's just what. 30 euros more than classic NVMe other brand SSD ? And I trust Samsung for their reliability in terms of storage

Will get some HDD too later

So that will be a 1554.27 euros PC Tower when I will get the SSD. Pain

[toxic zealot]

even ps5 nvme ssd

does basically nothing

in terms of improving speeds for games

compared to sata ssd speeds

[tacit magnet]

I was planning on doing some weird NVMe main windows then an SSD for more games + HDD for all my other stuff. Tbh I wasn't even sure about getting nvme but even with the current NVMe I own I get something like 30 seconds at least of loading when doing music thingy

[toxic zealot]

then dont expect anything faster

if you are already on nvme

lol

[tacit magnet]

Well was wondering if it can be slower when not taking NVMe lol

I mean I was already considering NVMe. Just not Samsung 970 Evo Plus™ Gucci thingy

Anyway thanks now it's up to me to make my own clever decision

[atomic jackal]

thats gucci?

i have it and its pretty fast ngl

but you can buy wd instead

[tacit magnet]

Yeah I know. That's why I said Gucci because more expensive than other brands. But right now 230 euros seems like a good price

So I will probably take it today

[atomic jackal]

yeah

i have the 250gb one for windows

got it for like

60 euro

[prime jasper]

am trying to run bf1 but it wont load or start****

[quick locust]

Look at channel desc

[sour kernel]

Are 500€ a good deal for a Playstation 5 digital?

Just buying the console for Bf2042

[quick locust]

Yes

It's msrp + tax iirc

So go ahead

[little oasis]

Yeah

500 euros is solid

Also dudes, any of you knows how to fix punkbuster issues on BF3 only?

My punkbuster doesn't receive packets on BF3, however BF4 runs without issue

Same for hardline

[quick locust]

!!pb

!!punkbuster

[silent oasis]

ℹ️ If you're having problems with Punkbuster, we recommend following this community-made guide to installing and using it! https://www.carbonic.dk/punkbusterguide/

[dull solstice]

Hang on, what exact message is being given for BF3? A Violation 9005 or 9006, or something else?

[little oasis]

Nope, no packet flow

I've tried reinstalls, clean installs, between other simple solutions

What I've noticed, however, is that punkbuster is not explicitly allowed on my firewall despite me doing so, and pnkbstrk doesn't exist on my drivers list

[dull solstice]

Oh, that. The code for that is a Violation #9005. I know it well.

It is typically caused by, as the name suggests, excessive packet loss to where it cannot function at all.

[dull solstice]

They actually do show up and are explicitly whitelisted on the firewall on install.

However, PBSVC is checking strictly for a System32 location, which is reserved for 64-bit things these days. PnkBstrA and B processes, due to being 32-bit, are instead installed in the SysWOW64 directory by default due to requiring emulation.

PnkBstrK is typically found in game-specific AppData folder paths, rather than as a single global instance. PBSVC simply cannot find any of these due to not being where it checks for them.

[little oasis]

Can you please send me the directory where pnkbstrk goes? So i can move it to the right directory

As for A and B, I moved them to system 32 already

[atomic jackal]

what are your specs

my pc cost like 1350 euros in total

[tacit magnet]

Ryzen 7 3700x with MSI X470 Gaming plus max
RTX 3080 FE
32Go DDR4 3000mhz CL15 Crucial Ballistix
Cheap ass Fractal Design Midi tower with an Arctic P12 fan to have a good airflow
Seasonic GX850 for the PSU

Already have an external Corsair keyboard as well as a mouse and 144hz screen + secondary monitor (actually the third screen) because I use my current laptop as a desktop computer lol

[quick locust]

Looks good

[atomic jackal]

my pc is ryzen 5 3600
same ram as yours,
Asus tuf gaming 3060ti
2tb hard drive+ samsung evoplus 970
cooler master mwe 650w
asus gt301 case

sadly i didnt have any keyboard and monitor at hand as i was using laptops before

but they didnt cost a lot

like 250 euros at most

[little oasis]

I managed to solve it, i think

all it took, was to copy the files to system32, delete them from syswow64 and reroute everything, from firewall to services

[tacit magnet]

I bought my keyboard when I went to the US with more than 50% sale and the G502 is the same one that I'm using since 2015. But it works great so I will gladly get a wireless G502 if it ever fails. Which doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon

[dull solstice]

It is not supposed to move. Also, those processes do not typically run if moved to System32 anyway, unless you have somehow managed to trick PBSVC into recognizing the two there.

[marsh gull]

ryzen 5 3600 with rtx 3060ti?

you're wasting like 30 fps

[atomic jackal]

well i know i kinda regret it

but ill upgrade when 6000 series comes out

[little oasis]

i managed to do it through the registry

deleting the wow64 key

[dull solstice]

So I see. Curious.

[little oasis]

nvm, still no packet flow

bf4 works despite all of that tho

wtf punkbuster

[dull solstice]

Check the folder path used in PBSetup.

[near rune]

!!punkbuster

[silent oasis]

ℹ️ If you're having problems with Punkbuster, we recommend following this community-made guide to installing and using it! https://www.carbonic.dk/punkbusterguide/

[near rune]

@little oasis

[little oasis]

already tried all there

nothing works

[south sierra]

Anyone know when will be ps5 available?

[dull solstice]

Wait, does Alx have Ransomware protection enabled in Windows Defender?

[little oasis]

lemme check

nope, using panda dome

[dull solstice]

Panda Dome? What is that?

[little oasis]

another antivirus, so windows defender is disabled

[dull solstice]

Oh. Hm.

[atomic jackal]

i mean i checked the comparisons from youtube, best i lose is 10 fps on 1440p

[little oasis]

i swear, it's so strange

bf4 works

hardline works

but bf3 is borked

that's it, i'm deleting bf3

[marsh gull]

i guess so but I would recommend the ryzen 5 3600x or 5 5600 at least

[atomic jackal]

dont worry ill upgrade to 6000 series next year

[little oasis]

not really, it depends on how lucky you get on the silicon lottery

[atomic jackal]

but cpb fucks my processor hard

and i dont know why

its supposed to boost

not heat

[marsh gull]

ryzen 6000 series is coming out?

[atomic jackal]

if it comes out

amd didnt say they will but i think theyll roughly be there in 1-2 yrs

id probably have to change the mobo

since mine is a b450

[little oasis]

yes, those won't be the same socket anymore

[atomic jackal]

yeah zen 4

[little oasis]

6000 series are not AM4

[supple bane]

yeah i heard they are moving to LGA

[atomic jackal]

my biggest regret is not getting a b550

[little oasis]

meh

[atomic jackal]

but i mean

mobos are cheap

[little oasis]

then do it

DO IT

MF

[atomic jackal]

ill do it when i upgrade

[marsh gull]

honestly don't you have a pretty good system i don't think you need to upgrade just now

[atomic jackal]

yeah not now

im saying like

2 years later

[marsh gull]

i'm probably gonna wait for the rtx 4000 series to come out

[marsh gull]

yeah

[atomic jackal]

i dont think ill buy a gpu for the next 5 years

if my gpu lasts that much that is

because it is more than enough for all my games

[marsh gull]

the 3060 ti is weirdly a budget-friendly high-end gpu

[atomic jackal]

exactly

it is cheaper than a 2070 super

but better

???

[marsh gull]

like it's affordable and worth the price and at the same time is equivalent to a 2080 super that costs 800usd

that's why it's prob gonna be my go-to upgrade

[atomic jackal]

i got mine for like

600 dollars

[marsh gull]

dude that's scalper territory

I'm gonna buy mine used

same for cpu

[atomic jackal]

no i got it from a distributor

its actually cheaper than the original price here

the original price is around

1180 dollars

ridiculous i know

we just have tons of taxes

[marsh gull]

which country?

[atomic jackal]

thats a grey area

[atomic jackal]

turkey

[marsh gull]

ohh ok

[marsh gull]

you're not recommending it?

[atomic jackal]

well just be extra careful

buy LHR models if you can

mine is lite hash rate

meaning its useless for mining

so your card is less likely to be used for mining if its LHR

[marsh gull]

oh ok

thx

[prime jasper]

bf1 wont start or load when i start it on steam

[marsh gull]

it happends to me sometimes, just restart your computer

[prime jasper]

i was doing that all the time yeaterday

not working

[marsh gull]

damn

before i used to not be able to launch because I had a faulty version of win10 that was missing the microsoft C++ driver

maybe you could reinstall windows or install the C++ driver?

[prime jasper]

i dont have a faluty windows i got my pc checked out last week

[prime jasper]

oi

[plain stag]

You will have to buy a new motherboard as well

[atomic jackal]

i know

i think i will have enough experience by that time though, so it will be fine

[plain stag]

Maybe

[prime jasper]

all that for one game sheeesh

[plain stag]

?

[prime jasper]

i can run tarkov at a good 60fps with a gtx 1660 i5 4440 and ddr 3 16 gb ram

[atomic jackal]

good luck with cyberpunk or any new titles

3 years after from now

[prime jasper]

am getting ne cpu

i7 with 6 cores

[atomic jackal]

ill probably get a 5950 too

since my board isnt 6000 compatible

it would be more expensive for little gains

or maybe a 5900

why is there an almost 400 dollar difference between a 5950 and a 5900?

[plain stag]

5950x is a 16 core cpu

But if you plan only to game, those upgrades are useless

[atomic jackal]

is it even necessary to have that many cores at this point

[plain stag]

Of course

[atomic jackal]

and why would that be

[plain stag]

If you're doing professional work that requires extra cores

Code compiling for example

But for gaming, 5900x/5950x are useless upgrades

[atomic jackal]

yeah

so my next upgrade would probably be a 5700x then?

[plain stag]

5800x

Theres a 5700G

With an integrated gpu

Even 5800x is eh for games

Kinda wasting a bit of money there

[atomic jackal]

by the way

does the mbytes of cpu matter

[plain stag]

Yes, cache matters

[atomic jackal]

for example theres one with 32mb l3 and 64mb l3

and theres a 1/3 price difference between them

[plain stag]

The reason why 5700G performs worse than 5600x even tho it has 2 extra cores

It has less cache

[atomic jackal]

i see

so more cache : more better

[plain stag]

Yes

Zen 3 refresh might be a useful upgrade for gaming

They are suppose to come out by the end of the year

They will have 3D stacked cache

[atomic jackal]

refresh?

[plain stag]

Increasing the cache size dramatically without increasing the size of the die

[atomic jackal]

ive not heard of such a thing

die?

[plain stag]

Die size

Where transistors are located

[atomic jackal]

oh

[plain stag]

Refresh cpus are mostly the same as current version

Just a bit upgraded

For example, 3600x

And they released 3600xt

There's very little difference between them

Very marginal cpu speed increase

By 0.1ghz

Refresh cpus are more fine tuned

Might be more efficient, slightly faster

[atomic jackal]

hm i see

[plain stag]

But they dont warrant na upgrade if you already have a current gen cpu

[atomic jackal]

wym?

[plain stag]

Cuz you only get a few % performance uplift at best

It's the same cpu, just more fine tuned

[atomic jackal]

oh you mean its not worth it

[plain stag]

Yes, they arent worth it if you already have a cpu in the same family

But a zen 3 refresh might be useful for some applications

Some programs can utilize extra cache

[atomic jackal]

no i have a zen 2 i think

[plain stag]

Yes

Amd showed off that cpu

With extra cache

I think it was a 5800x with 3D cache

And from their benchmarks, the performance upgrade was about 15%

[atomic jackal]

hmm

depending on the price

it may or may not be viable

[plain stag]

Well, its a first party benchmark

[atomic jackal]

yeah

very likely to be biased

[plain stag]

They usually put benchmarks that show their products in the best light possible

It's the same thing with SAM when they marketed

Or resizable BAR

[atomic jackal]

ill probably buy it anyway since my parents promised to upgrade to whatever i want in uni, so its not my money

[plain stag]

Some games saw big improvements

Some didnt even see 1%

[atomic jackal]

hmm

[plain stag]

It just depends which program or game can utilize those extra features

[atomic jackal]

probably cpu intensive turn based games and such

[plain stag]

Not really

Cuz ReBAR enables full access to gpu memory

Rather than 256mb chunks

All of the gpu's memory is immediately accessible

And some game engines can utilize that feature

Some dont, because they weren't made with more than 256 mb chunks being accessed at one time

[atomic jackal]

i understand

[plain stag]

Nvidia has a whitest and a blacklist when it comes to ReBAR

Some games even reduce performance with it enabled

So they are on their blacklist

[atomic jackal]

can you send the lists?

[plain stag]

I don't know if its a public list

It prob is

But just google nvidis resizable bar whitest or something

[latent light]

The CCD of Zen3+ has been thinned down to only 5% of the thickness of the normal Zen3 chiplets

Zen3+ CCD are so thin that the 3D Cache dies are thicker

Also I'm pretty sure they cut off the L3 on the CCDs themself so maybe less die area overall

[plain stag]

Right right

[latent light]

3D cache chiplets are very good at transferring heat from CCD apparently, temps should be lower than Zen3

[plain stag]

But the IHS is the same

Thsts what I meant

[latent light]

Pretty sure AMD aims to keep the same 40x40mm dimension of the CPU IHS for many generations/sockets to come

That way coolers stay compatible

Already hearing that Intel 12th gen isn't compatible with many coolers

Since it's a rectangular CPU

[plain stag]

Yeah

Intel always has a way to kick you in the nuts

Its either poor chipset support

Or something dumb like making most coolers unusable

[storm osprey]

imo chipset support is only relevant for a small portion of people

i mean, how many people are upgrading a cpu within 3 years, hell id stretch that statement to 5 years

[latent light]

Just people big on DIY tbh

Although AM4 has proven that chipset support is a huge selling point

[storm osprey]

yea, which is kinda ironic but 🤷

[latent light]

Many people with Ryzen 1000 and 2000 have upgraded to 3000 and 5000 series

[toxic zealot]

chipset support lowers cost of upgrading

which makes amd more compelling cost wise

but on the other hand amd chips are expensive now

so it doesnt matter

intel has better budget option

[storm osprey]

the point being that even within diy gamers most people arent upgrading a cpu often, so likely miss the upgrade window

[latent light]

I think a chipset supporting only 2 generations is very pointless, you might as well just support 1 gen at that point

Is anyone really gonna upgrade from a 6700K to 7700K or 10900K to 11900K

[storm osprey]

they shouldnt be

even amd 3000 to 5000 gets kinda questionable for most people not rolling in dough

[opaque saddle]

8700K was one of the worse processors that were severely impacted by Meltdown and spectre

I have a 4th intel and it feels slow coz of the patches. It is slow just like jumping from 2000 series Ryzen to 5000 series Ryzen

Then back to 2000

[latent light]

Ryzen 5000 series is about 25-30% faster than 3000 series

That's a big jump for CPU performance, wouldn't be for a GPU tho

[storm osprey]

i wonder if we will see another generation leap like that

[latent light]

Ryzen 5000 up to 50% faster than 3000 series in esports too btw

[quick locust]

My 8700K is still doing well

[storm osprey]

youre at 1440p too yea?

[quick locust]

Yes

[proud trellis]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[proud trellis]

ay

[storm osprey]

some youtuber just dropped an "official spec" video

[supple bane]

I am assuming that the leaked specs are legit

[plain stag]

The leaked tech preview specs are most likely to be changed for release

Still a lot of time to implement performance fixes and optimize the game

Last month or two are really for optimization

All of the content should be mostly done

[supple bane]

Tru

[craggy dagger]

do you guys think my 1060 6gb can handle the game at more than 60fps?

[storm osprey]

HopEfully My 3080 AnD 10700kf CaN Run iT

[storm osprey]

1080p low settings i think this would be easy, but who knows, cpu and ram is also important

[craggy dagger]

16GB ram, my cpu is i7 idk which one, i can screenshot if that can help!

[storm osprey]

hopefully its an 8700k at least

anything older will likely struggle a bit

[craggy dagger]

aight lemme check it

[pulsar smelt]

yo

we have the official system requirements for bf?

[craggy dagger]

TECHNICALLY, since we have the requirements for the Playtest

[pulsar smelt]

and this can be changed after the playstest?

[craggy dagger]

fuck, its less than that. Its i7-6700

how bad will it be? :/

[storm osprey]

i feel like youll still get around 60fps, but maybe not stable

thats just me guessing off bfv performance and 2042 doubling player count

for all we know though 2042 could be an optimization marvel

[pulsar smelt]

ofc

[storm osprey]

orim has a 1060 6gb

[pulsar smelt]

I have a r5 2600 and gtx 1660, should I run mix into med-high?

ps* 16 gb

[storm osprey]

i run low settings with a 3080 and 10700k for better visibility and fps

depends what your wants are

[pulsar smelt]

stable at good quality?

[storm osprey]

these definitions change person to person

[craggy dagger]

@storm osprey bfv was pretty stable for me, all i can do now is pray and wait for the beta to test the performance

[storm osprey]

not trying to be picky but yea, my stable is 120+ fps, my good quality is max textures and low everything else

[fallen harbor]

@craggy dagger im almost sure your pc is good enough to run any bf at a playable degree. Nobody can answer whether this will be the case for bf2042 or not but bf games are often well optimized so i wouldmt worry much. If you plan on upgrading anything, id start from the cpu. The 1060 is still good enough as a mid tier gpu tbh

that being said, your cpu isnt terrible either

in fact i think there wouldnt be that much of a difference if you only upgrade the cpu or gpu alone. Id rather sell the pc and build another

i fail to picture your computer struggling to reach 60fps on 1080p in any games except for those ridiculously demanding like rdr2 or no mans sky on ultra or whatever

[craggy dagger]

Thanks for the detailed answer

my pc was built in 2017, so that's the reason why the cpu and gpu are outdated

[fallen harbor]

the age doesnt always mean its outdated for gaming

there are computers built in 2021 that are slower than yours

it all depends on the tier

[craggy dagger]

True. I personally tried to have an A tier pc back then

nothing crazy like the 1080.

even the 1070 was a bit expensive so i settled on the 1060 6gb

[fallen harbor]

well it isnt a tier anymore for games that are released nowadays and are demanding, but it sure is a b tier

it still checks out

[craggy dagger]

Oh yea that's 100% true lol, i was talking about back then

i wanted to mainly run bf1, ow, csgo and minecraft (still back then)

[fallen harbor]

if 60fps and 1080p is what you seek, its still decent for most games that exist today

[craggy dagger]

Guess i'll just have to wait :D, thanks for the info!

[fallen harbor]

np

[wintry prairie]

I would imaging you'd get get 60+ fps. My computer was also built in 2017, and with a 1080ti I was hitting the 200fps cap in BF4.

[storm osprey]

bf4 came out 8 years ago though, idk if you can really make a connection to that

[wintry prairie]

Not sure. Hopefully we'll know soon enough for 2042. I'd check in BFV but I just upgraded my GPU a week ago.

[patent wharf]

is 1660 enough for modern day games

[storm osprey]

cyberpunk at 1080p max settings 60fps rtx off? probably not

[patent wharf]

not a huge cyberpunk fan

I didn't like it at all lol

I mainly play on console my pc is pretty shît

[storm osprey]

just an example how "modern games" could encompass something crazy like cyberpunk

[patent wharf]

yeah that's true

[storm osprey]

rdr 2, ac valhalla, etc

[patent wharf]

rdr2 runs fine

[storm osprey]

those games you likely wont be able to max out and get 60 fps

[patent wharf]

yeah

maxing out is a nono

[storm osprey]

but imo maxing out is usually a waste, so medium 60fps for most games i imagine a 1660 will be fine

[patent wharf]

yea

what about battlefield 5

never played it on pc

[wintry prairie]

One example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCBb838BK0A

[patent wharf]

thats actually great

but what do you guys recommend to get 60+ on maxed out games

gpu wise

[wintry prairie]

What's your budget? What resolution?

[patent wharf]

I don't exactly have a set budget yet

[wintry prairie]

So $3000 is ok?

[patent wharf]

but I have money saved up and gonna save up more

[patent wharf]

ye anything more than that I dont think I will be able to get this year

I have 2 options

pc or ps5

[wintry prairie]

Welp, if you can spend $3K on a GPU, I think you'll be fine.

What resolution are you going to be gaming at?

Are you willing to wait 1 to 1.5 years and get a next gen card, or do you want it now?

[patent wharf]

prob gonna play on 1080 wont play more than that since I don't got a good monitor yet

and I want one this year till 2022

[wintry prairie]

You have some good options as 1080p 60fps isn't very taxing.

You "could" get a 1080ti, or above.

Better yet, a 3060ti. It would be new, have RTX, DLSS 2, re-sizable bar, etc. MSRP is around $500 (good luck getting it at that price though)

You can always go with a "better" card, but doubt it would do much for you at 1080p.

You could also go with AMD cards, but I suggested an nVidia solution since that is what you already have and because of the benefits in BF 2042.

Good luck.

[prime jasper]

Can sumone help me, i laod bf1 and it wont even sart or enthing

[plain stag]

Amd is currently better at rendering 1080p

So for your use case they are a better value if you are not that interested in ray tracing

They can still do ray tracing okay, when its a mix of rasterization and ray tracing, like in shadow of the tomb raider, shadows are only ray traced, and that's the least demanding form of ray tracing

When its only one option for ray tracing, its okay, but when you start pushing more forms, like reflections and GI, thats when they suffer, like in Control for example

[granite kestrel]

For @latent light: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-arm-holdings-m-a-nvidia-britain-idUSKBN2F420W

[latent light]

Ye I posted and it disappeared lol

Anyway, pretty sure Nvidia isn't even planning to monopolize ARM, they just want their revenue

[midnight crypt]

monopolizing ARM would be a silly decision

[latent light]

ARM is worth a lot more than 40 billion imo