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plain stag
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Oh

frail elm
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You:Heeeey mum..... You know when i did the thing and you owe me 30
Mum:no?
You: uuuuh
😂

cloud solar
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also the M27Q is flat

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i cant go back to flat

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the monitor im looking for is to go with the series s for my brother lmao

plain stag
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They have a curved version as well

wintry prairie
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The g27c4 is 1080p, right?

plain stag
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M32Q i think

cloud solar
cloud solar
plain stag
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I'm not sure about the model name, but i know I've seen a curved version as well

opaque saddle
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I saw the 24” 1080p 144hz IPS monitor was selling at 149 AUD. Was tempted to get one

plain stag
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You will find it on gigabyte's website

opaque saddle
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Wait up

quick locust
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mine is an acer xb241yu

opaque saddle
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I think that’s gigabyte

plain stag
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They also have a 1080p 144hz monitor as well

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M27F

opaque saddle
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27” 1440p is a step up from 24” 1080p

plain stag
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But its an older panel from au optronics i think

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So response times are a bit slower

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Their new 1440p lineup uses newer panels from Sharp

quick locust
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i run 24 in 1440 rn

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but 27 in VA would be nice

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or IPS

cloud solar
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am i the only person that likes 32 inch monitors

quick locust
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At least TN on my monitor is way better than the TN display on my laptop

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32 is nice as well

plain stag
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Theres no point in getting a tn nowadays

cloud solar
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i like the bigger screen

plain stag
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Ips advanced so much that tns are kinda useless

quick locust
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my screen is from 2016

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i would get IPS nowadays

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or VA

plain stag
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Hell, even va

quick locust
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VA is slow but nice contrast

plain stag
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Panels that samsung uses are generally faster than ips panels

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But theres more ghosting as well

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Theres literally no point in getting aorus monitor models

frail elm
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You know what monitor/TV your getting yet?

plain stag
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They are barely any better than "budget" gigabyte options

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And they cost like 300 more

opaque saddle
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Personally I love IPS more than VA

plain stag
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But they use exact same panels with same response times

cloud solar
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ive never seen va irl

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only ips

opaque saddle
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TN is just not worth to be mentioned if getting a new monitor

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VA panels are widely used for TV

quick locust
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I wish I picked a IPS laptop

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instead of TN

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on this 800 usd laptop

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wish it had usb C and nvme as well

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but oh well

opaque saddle
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So it is possible and more likely that your TV has a VA panel

plain stag
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It was 800

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Can't expect too much

quick locust
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ye

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decent price for a ryzen 3700U laptop

opaque saddle
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Was tempted to get a gaming laptop

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I realised I don’t like gaming on laptop often so I decided not to get one

quick locust
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mine is just average laptopt

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but i dont need more

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i use my desktop for gaming

opaque saddle
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Plus I got a MacBook Pro 15” early 2019 model

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I just don’t need a new laptop. That’s all

quick locust
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mine is from 2019 as well

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changed ram but nothing else

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cause 6 GB in windows 10 was annoying

opaque saddle
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You got 8 initially?

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Or 4+2

quick locust
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8

opaque saddle
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Oh

quick locust
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vega 10 just takes 2 for itself

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that it doesnt share with rest

opaque saddle
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4gb on windows can’t do much already

quick locust
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ye

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luckily ive had more for long

opaque saddle
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So you got 1.5-2GB available for other things

quick locust
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my 2013 laptop had 12 GB

opaque saddle
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Weird config

quick locust
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8+4

opaque saddle
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My 2012 laptop has 16

quick locust
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meanwhile they still sell windows laptops with 4 gb ram

opaque saddle
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I built a desktop in 2015, it still has 16

quick locust
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which feels like they belong in 2009

opaque saddle
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Terrible decision

dry pike
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I'm on an old laptop atm. Made sure it had 8GB memory though. Need my RAM.

quick locust
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my vista laptop had 3 GB, and they still sell laptops with 4 GB....

opaque saddle
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However… they shipped those laptops with 1366x768 TN display and eMMC storage

quick locust
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feels like ram capacity has stagnated for PCs for so long

opaque saddle
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And a celeron or Pentium processors

quick locust
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my 2013 laptop had 1366x768 display, a 1200 usd laptop

frail elm
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We still going on about looking for a monitor

opaque saddle
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My 2012 one was a 1000AUD

quick locust
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that had 4700HQ though

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and a GT 750M

opaque saddle
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So… it was 3210M with GT 630 on it

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The 3210M and GT630 was a MID range option at that time

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Both of them were mid range (closer to low end) coz they didn’t make that many higher tier options

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Your GT750M is pretty good in 2013

quick locust
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yeah

dry pike
quick locust
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should have upgraded sooner though

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kept using it as main until 2018

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really didnt like bf1

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its the ddr3 version

opaque saddle
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My previous desktop has a Phenom 1045T processor

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I bought that in 2011 for bf3

quick locust
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I saw one in another server buy a 1090T desktop recently

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for 300 usd

opaque saddle
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and bought a laptop not long after

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Those things are awesome tho. They are power hungry but it does the job just like a dual core processor does

quick locust
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thats what he bought

opaque saddle
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Till a few years ago tho

quick locust
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newer CPUs are more power hungry anway

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mostly

opaque saddle
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It won’t be until you switch off turbo boost

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I won’t let my laptop processor to run the clock speed higher than boost clock

quick locust
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cooling was just mostly worse back then

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my laptop cpu doesnt get that hot but its power limited a lot

opaque saddle
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I don’t need a powerful laptop but I want a laptop that last for ages

quick locust
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80-90C will still last ages

opaque saddle
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Bought that way before ARM processor being used on laptop

quick locust
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m1 macbook dropped in price here decently

opaque saddle
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Yeah but I usually run that at 45-55c

opaque saddle
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Coz the newer one will be coming shortly

quick locust
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1066 for macbook air here

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usd

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dropped quite a bit

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launch it was around 1300 usd ish

opaque saddle
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MacBook Air is ace for uni. I don’t see the point getting the 13” pro unless it needs better cooling and storage

quick locust
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yea

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i just use my laptop for uni

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hence 3700U being just fine

opaque saddle
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I’m going back to sleep. Good night

quick locust
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sleep well

frail elm
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Nighty

atomic jackal
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hello, i have a ryzen 5 3600 and it gets to 86 degrees on max settings with stock cooler on gta 5, is this too much, and should i get a aftermarket cooler?

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bear in mind that the temperature is 40 degrees celsius outside

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so it contributes as well

cloud solar
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does it run cooler on cooler days?

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if so, how much cooler

atomic jackal
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i dont know

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i just got the pc yesterday

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it does drop immediately after closing the game though

short pier
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Ye invest in an aftermarket cooler

atomic jackal
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for example it runs at 80°C on high settings gta 5,but gets down to 62 after closing

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by the way what is dram ras# pre and act time?

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im trying to enable xmp on my bios and they shoved up at saving settings

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cant share because no img perms

quick locust
atomic jackal
quick locust
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It's not too high temp

atomic jackal
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will test for a few games

quick locust
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Just meh compared to most coolers

atomic jackal
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okay then do you have a good cooler that is like 60 dollars at most

short pier
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Hyper 212 black edition

atomic jackal
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but i also have to buy paste for that dont i

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or does paste come with the fan

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is it hard to install a fan?

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i had the guy in the pc store build my pc for me so i dont know

quick locust
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No it's easy enough

atomic jackal
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considering i almost messed up installing a gpu im not too confident in myself

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but i mean my card was too big okay i didnt see the pci eMkekhands

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my card is very cool though

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it gets to like 55°C at most

arctic crag
atomic jackal
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yeah

arctic crag
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Mine was like 62c when i first bought it

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But now it’s 70

atomic jackal
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im just confused man

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is it the weather that makes my cpu hot

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or is the cooler not enough

arctic crag
atomic jackal
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i mean

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it is 42 degrees

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celsius

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so yeah

arctic crag
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Ok my cpu in winter was like 72c max

atomic jackal
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107 f for muricans

arctic crag
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Now it reaches 80 or even 85

atomic jackal
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and its brand new

arctic crag
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Stock cooler?

atomic jackal
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yes

arctic crag
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Ryzen?

atomic jackal
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yes

arctic crag
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5600x?

atomic jackal
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no

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r5 3600

arctic crag
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86 while gaming?

atomic jackal
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yes

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55 at idle

arctic crag
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Damn that’s hot

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What game?

atomic jackal
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gta 5

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on max settings

arctic crag
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It’s fine I guess

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But try to change the cooler

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Later

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Ryzen stock cooler sucks ass

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It’s noisy and not efficient enough

atomic jackal
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at least better than intel coolers

arctic crag
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Whatever man

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Intel coolers are junk

atomic jackal
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yeah

arctic crag
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Being better than intel coolers doesn’t mean it’s good

atomic jackal
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i know

arctic crag
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I would recommend cooler master hyper 212

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It’s cheap

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And 20c cooler than stock cooler

atomic jackal
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is it hard to install

arctic crag
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It’s 40$

arctic crag
atomic jackal
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yeah but is it hard to install? after nearly screwing a basic task such as mounting the gpu im not confident

arctic crag
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Go to local pc store and let the dude do his job

atomic jackal
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lol yeah that is an option

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ill try with other games

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and if i still get high temps

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i will buy the said coolwr

arctic crag
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Anyway you have AC right?

atomic jackal
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not in my room, no

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my room is currently 35°C

arctic crag
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Because nobody will ever live in 42c without ac

arctic crag
atomic jackal
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well we have one in the living room

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not my room

arctic crag
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Damn man that sucks

atomic jackal
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stuff is expensive

arctic crag
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How do you live lol

atomic jackal
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you cant just buy 5 of them or something

arctic crag
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35c room temps

atomic jackal
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plus its bad for the environment

arctic crag
atomic jackal
arctic crag
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If it’s cheap shit it will ofc affect the environment

light wave
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36C ambient here 🙂

atomic jackal
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yeah we got the inverter thingy

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so its efficient

arctic crag
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lol

atomic jackal
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kinda the same actually

arctic crag
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And I use AC 50% of the day

atomic jackal
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i dont think my parents will buy me anything for the next year or so after getting a pc for like

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24k egyptian pounds?

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idk

arctic crag
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Umm 24k?

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Is that how much does your pc cost?

atomic jackal
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yeah

arctic crag
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Yeah that’s expensive

atomic jackal
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idk if thars considered expensive for you

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oh

arctic crag
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It is lol

atomic jackal
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it is 13000 lira originally

arctic crag
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Are you Tunisian?

atomic jackal
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no

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turkish

arctic crag
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Oh

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I heard Turkish is burning rn

atomic jackal
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arson yeah

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by a terrorist group

arctic crag
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That’s sad

atomic jackal
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by the way

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do you have an ac on your room

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since you sounded shocked

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that i dont

arctic crag
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I have yes

atomic jackal
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how much btu's does it have

arctic crag
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I will check the app

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20kwh last week

atomic jackal
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no i mean the cooling power

arctic crag
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Oh 1.5hp

atomic jackal
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i think we measure it by btu's

arctic crag
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Oh yeah my bad I remember now

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24k btu

atomic jackal
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wow thats a big ac

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our living room is big as fuck and we only have a 18000 one

quick locust
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I don't have AC but weather is cooler here

atomic jackal
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well if you live in central europe

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you probably wont

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or uk

quick locust
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I don't live in central

atomic jackal
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north?

arctic crag
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lol I didn’t know that it’s that strong

quick locust
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Yeah

atomic jackal
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yeah i mean it barely gets to 30 there

quick locust
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AC is rare here

atomic jackal
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its pointless to get one

quick locust
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Yeah

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Though humidity is crazy

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I've had 85%+ in my room for some weeks

arctic crag
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Actually I searched the wrong model it’s 12k btu not 24k

atomic jackal
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oh yeah

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24k ac is extremely big

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12 is like a medium size

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man my chair broke

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my neck hurts when playing now

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by the way

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it might be just gta 5 too

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i booted up hoi4 which is known to use a lot of cpu

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and my cpu is at a steady 70

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68 now

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i will try battlefield 1 after installation

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if it also gives good results(i hope it will) id probably use the cooler for a while

arctic crag
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Good luck mate

atomic jackal
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yeah ill leave the pc on for download

opaque saddle
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If your room temp is constantly staying at the right temp with the windows and doors are sealed properly, running the AC 24/7 shouldn’t cost a fortune. Unless it is heating up and the room is losing the cold air. Then the aircon will need to generate more cold air to balance the temperature you have set from your remote, it will consume lots of power, just like opening your freezer door 24/7

toxic wigeon
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Winter is just free cooling

frail elm
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Lol

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Did that guy ever choose a monitor or TV for his 8 yr old?

atomic jackal
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guys in bios

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there is 2 fab controls

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cha and cpu

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is cha case fans?

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and should i set it to full speed as well

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also i set my case fans to turbo but i still dont feel air coming from them

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are they turning in the wrong direction or not working properly

dry pike
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CHA is chassis and is indeed the case fans.

atomic jackal
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i think i need a new cooler

dry pike
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Or at least they should be the case fans.

atomic jackal
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my gpu is 58 degrees

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but my cpu is 82

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stock fan is probably not enough is it

midnight crypt
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Check your thermal paste

atomic jackal
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i didnt build it myself, i bought it on one of those custom prebuilt pc's

midnight crypt
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Do it anyways and check if the cooler is mounted correctly/with enough pressure

atomic jackal
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im afraid ill mess something up

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since i barely got the card in place

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jesus fucking christ

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92 degrees on battlefield 1

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yup

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definitely have to buy an aftermarket cooler

quick locust
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It doesn't damage it

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It just sucks

plain stag
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It can reduce its lifespan

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But chances of your cpu dying is very slim to begin with

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But yeah, quite possible that they didn't mount the cooler properly

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If its an amd stock cooler, its actually somewhat decent if you don't overclock and have a lower powered cpu

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Intel stock cooler is just trash

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So if it's an Intel, then I'm not surprised of those temps

atomic jackal
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by the way

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my cpu gets to 93 on full speed

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is my cpu faulty?

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its brand new

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it shouldn't be heating this much

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im really skeptical about this

midnight crypt
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Its the cpu cooler

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Cant be anything else

atomic jackal
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maybe the paste dried out?

midnight crypt
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How old is the system?

atomic jackal
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2 days old @midnight crypt

arctic crag
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In my opinion just wait a week or so and if it’s still high get an aftermarket cooler

fallen harbor
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still waiting for gpus to cost less than a car where i live

arctic crag
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When I first got mine temps were high after a week of use temps became cooler

fallen harbor
arctic crag
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I think he said like 35

atomic jackal
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it got to 95

fallen harbor
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35c is a lot

atomic jackal
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and cpu started undervolting

atomic jackal
fallen harbor
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then thats normal my man

atomic jackal
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let me send you the stress test

fallen harbor
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if its 35 or 40c in your room then its expected for the cpu to reach unhealthy temperatures on full usage

atomic jackal
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uh

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can you add me real quick

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i cant send it

fallen harbor
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yes

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is it 40c in your room? or do you have air conditioner?

atomic jackal
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no

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its 35

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and i dont have an ac

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its ambient teml

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but i run all the fans at full

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it shouldn't be getting to 95

fallen harbor
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it should tbh, unless you have water cooling or some bigger dissipator

atomic jackal
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im starting to think that the place i bought it from didnt remove the plastic

fallen harbor
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35c is a lot, computer parts will normally reach insane temps during summer if you have no AC or high end coolers

atomic jackal
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should i send it to warranty

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or just change the fan

fallen harbor
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if you want to make sure they removed the plastic without losing the warranty, then yes, do it

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send it back

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but odds are it's just your room temperature tbh

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what cpu and what gpu did you get?

atomic jackal
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and you have to move the fan carefully since it sticks to the fan

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the funny part is

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my gpu never gets above 55

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its asus tuf gaming 3060 by the way, the gpu

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ryzen 5 3600 is the cpu

fallen harbor
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hm

atomic jackal
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if it was the room

fallen harbor
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idk what to say, did you try a very demanding game?

atomic jackal
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surely the gpu would be hotter tol

atomic jackal
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but again

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gpu was barely 56

fallen harbor
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ok thats weird then

atomic jackal
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it wasnt hot at all

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all this points out to a problem in the cpu

fallen harbor
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was the cpu hot during the game? or ony du

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or only during the tests*

atomic jackal
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under load yes

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on idle its 55-60

fallen harbor
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and you got the stock default cooler right?

atomic jackal
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yes

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im running it on full speed

fallen harbor
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55-60 again seem normal to me on idle during summer with no ac

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and ryzen warms more than nvidia in general

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also has more tolerance to high temps than nvidia

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really to me this isnt all too weird

atomic jackal
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but doesnt r5 3600 shut down at 95?

fallen harbor
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i wouldnt think so

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id say it does at 100 or 110

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we can google this

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give me a second

atomic jackal
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i mean

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it did start to throttle

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it lowered the ghz

fallen harbor
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once you get to 81 it starts to decrease ghz

atomic jackal
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yes

fallen harbor
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but theres a difference between that and total shut down

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google says 95 is the absolute maximum, but im not seeing it mention it will shut down, it says that the computer will do anything to not surpass 95

atomic jackal
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yeah it capped at 95 in my video too

fallen harbor
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it says it will shut down if it keeps at 95 during several minutes

atomic jackal
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i should try several minutes next time

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i only left it for 30 seconds

fallen harbor
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games wont normally make your cpu go 100% anyway, that only happens during loading times as you said. I assume your gpu reached probably between 75 and 85 during bf1?

atomic jackal
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nope

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58

fallen harbor
fallen harbor
atomic jackal
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93

fallen harbor
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93 during the game?

atomic jackal
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the loading screen after matchmaking

fallen harbor
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im refering to the actual game time

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when you play around

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whats the cpu temp there

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in average

atomic jackal
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game time?

fallen harbor
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when you are running around and shooting people

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playing the game

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what are the temps there

atomic jackal
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oh i just panicked and closed the game when it hit 93

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haha

fallen harbor
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you closed it during the load times you mean?

atomic jackal
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yeah

fallen harbor
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it should go down after loading the match

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probably 85 i guess, or 80

atomic jackal
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it went down to 55 immediately after shutting down the game

fallen harbor
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try to join a game and dont close it

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it wont be worse than the benchmark tests that you did

atomic jackal
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ok i will try

fallen harbor
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if theres any place where you should panic is during benchmark tests

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those exhaust your computer to the limit

atomic jackal
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im amazed at how my gpu is cool at all times yet dissapointed in my cpu

fallen harbor
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i would avoid the tests for now and just see how it goes during gaming

atomic jackal
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okay

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ill send another video

fallen harbor
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by the way you will probably need to update your bios drivers if you get a lot of temps or full usage of your cpu when playing most games. My cousin got the same cpu and got super high temps when playing any game because the motherboard failed to calculate the proper usage needed so it always went up to 4,20ghz during any task

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until we downloaded a newer bios driver and then it started to regulate the ghz correctly

atomic jackal
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alright

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i only downloaded gpu driver

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others windows did

fallen harbor
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youll need to apply the bios driver manually, by downloading it from your motherboard's site, putting it inside a pendrive, restarting the pc and entering the bios

visual stump
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Hey if someone could help me battlefield one wont open for me

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it says vc runtime

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dll

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whatever that means

fallen harbor
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google for vcruntime.dll

fallen harbor
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try to make sure it doesnt go much beyond 80 when playing a game

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you will notice a great decrease of temperatures when you are in winter

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your cpu will probably be around 30 on idle

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and 70 max in games

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depends on where you live ofc

atomic jackal
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hmm

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i just loaded the game up

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it got to 87

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but now it is 83

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in game

fallen harbor
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ah

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wait a sec

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i got what could be a solution for you in these times

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give me a second

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dont close the game

visual stump
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should i just use something like restoro and clean my pc

fallen harbor
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have you got a 144hz monitor?

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@atomic jackal

visual stump
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cause its only for me

atomic jackal
fallen harbor
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at what frame rate is your game running?

atomic jackal
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no clue

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where do i check it

fallen harbor
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do you know how to open the command console

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in the game?

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should be the key at the left of 1

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i think

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youll get a type box up

atomic jackal
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ok what do i type there

fallen harbor
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PerfOverlay.DrawFps 1

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it will show you the frame rate

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at your top right corner

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i think

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or top left

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cant remember

atomic jackal
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it is currently 120 fps

fallen harbor
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ok so its configured to run at 120 in the graphic settings then

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i thought youd be getting like 200 and was gonna tell you to limit them to your monitor's refresh rate

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but this isnt the case then

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unless you dont mind limiting your frame rate to 60

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that should decrease the temperatures

atomic jackal
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meaning use 60hz?

fallen harbor
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in the video settings yes

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if it doesnt bother you

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that is

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maybe it will

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only you can tell

atomic jackal
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um its already 60

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since its windowed

fallen harbor
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you play windowed?

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or is it like that just now so you can chat

atomic jackal
fallen harbor
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you can use msi afterburner if you want to check temps ingame

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it shows the temp stats and usages in game

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its pretty cool

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but anyway

atomic jackal
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oh how do i do that

fallen harbor
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put the game on full screen and then change the hz to 60

fallen harbor
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id tell to lower either your frame rate or resolution or graphic settings if you want to get lower temperatures in games during summer, but that will probably suck if you got a high end computer and monitor

atomic jackal
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is it the rivatuner thing

fallen harbor
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yes it's two ssoftwares in one

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rivatuner displays the info in the game

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and with msi you tell rivatuner what info to display

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in settings > monitoring

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you will have temps for every CPU core, choose the one that just says CPU temp, not CPU (number) temp

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then gpu temp

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then ram/memory usage if youwant

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and cpu usage too if you want

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but then again

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you said you got 83 during the game, it is warm, but considering it's 35c, it's not thatbad

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your pc wont die for playing a couple of hours a day at 83c during summer

atomic jackal
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it gets to 87 sometimes

fallen harbor
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then if i was you id lower the frame rate

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or the resolution if you are any above 1080p

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make sure your resolution scale in the video settings isn't any higher than 100%

atomic jackal
#

man fuck this shit

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if i cant play with highest

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why did i buy this expensive pc in the first place

fallen harbor
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35c in a room is just too high

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its not just pcs

#

this is a problem that consoles have too

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consider getting an ac

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or a better dedicated cpu cooler

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that isnt the one that comes by default

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ever heard of consoles dying after a couple of years?

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many die due to high temps

atomic jackal
#

sent you a pic

fallen harbor
#

computers are actually more resistant to this than consoles

atomic jackal
#

where do i enable it

fallen harbor
#

you can also download ryzen master to like, limit your ghz to 4,00, that will work too

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youll get lower fps but still plenty above 60

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wait you do have rizen master right?

#

i think its in your screenshoot

atomic jackal
fallen harbor
#

limit the ghz usage to 4000mhz/4ghz

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that might make it not surpass 80 during game

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and you might not notice the difference either

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in gaming performance i mean

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if the place where you live is this hot very often, you will have to get either an AC or a better dedicated cpu cooler

magic monolith
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Hello guys. My PSU fan just died and I am looking for a replacement. Should I look for the same wattage or should I look for something with more headroom if I want to do some upgrades?

Beware that the system is already 8 years old, upgrades like more RAM or SSD are likely to happen 😛

fallen harbor
#

if your pc is 10 years old it means you wont be able to do big upgrades like cpu or gpu, so the wattage wont matter a lot, just get the minimum that you can get nowadays

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the minimum but certified, like, not any shitty crappy psu

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id probably get a 500w evga or corsair psu, white rating, doesnt need to be gold or anything

magic monolith
#

No need to look for 80 plus bronze?

fallen harbor
#

80 plus yes

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bronze not necessarily

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what are your specs?

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do you have a high consuming part?

magic monolith
#

Nope😂😂

Intel I5-4430
Nvidia GeForce 210
Toshiba 1TB HDD
2x2 GB G. Skill RAM

fallen harbor
#

ok then just get a 500w 80 plus psu, evga or corsair will do, those are decent brands

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if you plan on throwing that old computer and buy a new one and use your new psu for thatnew one, then get something higher

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but if not, 500 or 450w will do

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ssd's consume less than hdds

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so dont worry about that

magic monolith
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I was looking to buy a Samsung 860 SSD to improve performance. My parents use the computer mostly for browsing, so no need to go ahead with heavy upgrades

fallen harbor
#

yeah i5 4430 with an ssd is super good for office or home usage

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make sure to give it more ram though

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at least 8

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ive read somewhere that using an ssd with low ram can limit the ssd's lifespan significantly

magic monolith
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Yeah, that was in the pipeline as well, but then the PSU crapped out

fallen harbor
#

not sure how true that is though

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if its windows 7, you can get rid of one module and put a 4gb module to reach 6gb. If it got windows 8 or 10 you will need to put 8gb on it tbh

magic monolith
#

Windows 7 ultimate

fallen harbor
#

6 will probably do then

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go for 8 if you have the money though

magic monolith
#

Do different capacity modules hamper the performance?

fallen harbor
#

with office or home work, no

magic monolith
#

Money is not the problem. DDR3 RAM is relatively cheap is my country

fallen harbor
#

okie

lusty hare
#

so like i have the following components

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G7
Max mode: 2560 x 1440(p) (240.000Hz)
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.9GHz

Are these good gaming specs?

fallen harbor
#

what is good enough for you?

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depends

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you can play all games with that

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you wont get 60fps on some very demanding games though

plain stag
lusty hare
#

Well I am able to easily play bf4 on ultra

fallen harbor
#

yes

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its good for bf4

lusty hare
#

crysis 3 on ultra maybe 30fps

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better than nothing though

fallen harbor
#

the 1060 6gb is very good for mid tier gaming nowadays too

lusty hare
#

so i was thinking of upgrading for 2042 which one would be best suited?

fallen harbor
#

its a well balanced pc, its old but relatively strong for its time, its kinda like getting an entry level gaming pc nowadays, you can play everything, just not 60fps on all games

lusty hare
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especially the graphics card

fallen harbor
#

id upgrade the cpu

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not the gpu

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for bf2042

lusty hare
fallen harbor
#

bf games are respectively more cpu demanding than gpu demanding, and your gpu is respectively better than your cpu id say, when it comes to battlefield engine

plain stag
#

@quick tangle a friend of mine bought a noctua NH D15, to cool his ryzen 2600, and it was still thermal throttling cuz theres literally zero airflow, i even told him not to waste money on NH D15 cuz his case was trash

lusty hare
#

so like which cpu is best for 2042?

lusty hare
#

i wanna get 190 fps like in bf4 on medium at least

toxic zealot
fallen harbor
toxic zealot
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lol

fallen harbor
# toxic zealot where

some comments somewhere, thats why i said idk how true that is, but it unnerves me a little

toxic zealot
#

its not true

lusty hare
toxic zealot
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ssd lifespan solely depends on nand type

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and capacity

fallen harbor
#

yes but i thought it made sense because when you run out of ram, your storage drive begins being used as a replacement, and since ssds have a total bytes written, well..

toxic zealot
#

for normal use you would rather see controller break

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before you use cells too much

fallen harbor
#

look for videos on youtube

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i7 3770 vs i5 10400

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benchmark videos tell the truth

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its all you need to know

prime jasper
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And btw, i5-10400F is cheaper than the normal i5-10400

toxic zealot
#

the obvious difference is 7 gens of architecture changes

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lol

lusty hare
toxic zealot
#

no

fallen harbor
#

get the one with the f on it, it means it doesnt have integrated graphics so its cheaper, and you dont need integrated graphics cause you got that 1060

toxic zealot
#

it gets way more complicated than this

fallen harbor
#

yeah

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dont think too much about it

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just watch videos

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comparison videos

lusty hare
#

ok

lusty hare
#

thanks @fallen harbor

fallen harbor
#

no pro bro

toxic zealot
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looks like 100% faster

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when its not gpu bottlenecked

fallen harbor
#

also, another reason why i recommend upgrading cpu rather than gpu, is because gpus are ridiculously expensive nowadays. You could get a high improvement by upgrading your cpu instead

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youd bottleneck hard if you got a new gpu but no new cpu

toxic zealot
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depends

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its not super hard to achieve 60fps

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if thats someone goal

prime jasper
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I have a Core i5-10400F, good performance

lusty hare
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at 1:39 i can literally see the difference on the gun the i5 10400 gives dirt marks and the 3770 is squeaky clean

fallen harbor
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also the 10400f is on a sweet spot of price-performance

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as you can see the 3770 is still decent though

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i dont think youre in a huge need to upgrade

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but if you have the money and want to

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the 10400f is in a good spot

lusty hare
#

ya i definately should upgrade once the system requirements come out

fallen harbor
#

official system reqs are usually bs

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tbh ngl

lusty hare
#

yup the official once are most reliable

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but one can guess if enough data about the game is given

toxic zealot
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there is 0 data

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the only way to check is to benchmark

lusty hare
# toxic zealot there is 0 data

what we know is that tons of storage and bigger maps than last time double the players and judgine from the trailer the map be 1km square. bigger than before expet el alamaine. so we need to up most likely

toxic zealot
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that doesnt tell you anything

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because you dont know whats the optimization

plain stag
toxic zealot
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it can be as far as modern bf4 demanding

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to cyberpunk catastrophe because someone rushed the game

fallen harbor
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i trust it will be decently optimized because afaik all battlefields since bc2 were, but stillt heres no way for me to tell, its just a gut feeling

lusty hare
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i think i might have to upgrade the one or two components soon according to the features.

fallen harbor
#

all we know is that frostbite engines (the one used for battlefield since bad company i think) are relatively cpu demanding, and a bit better optimized for amd gpus than for gpu gpus

lusty hare
fallen harbor
#

1060 6gb is still good unless you want to go for 4k or 120hz

lusty hare
#

in fact i can do 4K and 240 Hz

fallen harbor
#

youre not understanding what i mean

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you cant get 4k and/or 240fps on battlefield v with your pc

weak girder
#

^

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maybe minecraft lmao

lusty hare
#

maybe a blank white screen rofl

fallen harbor
#

I can only estimate that with a 3770 and 1060, bf2042 will run at like almost 60fps on any settings, from low to high, because of a bottleneck, maybe like 55 or 65fps

lusty hare
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hmm so to get 100 fps ill have to upgrade

fallen harbor
#

and that with a 10400f youll rather get like 55 on ultra, 70 on medium and 90 on low

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probably 80 on medium

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its just a wild estimate

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dont trust my word so much

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its only my guess after seeing how all battlefield games perform

lusty hare
#

ya until the offical comes out we just guess

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what happens if i slap together a 3070 gpu and a 10400f?

fallen harbor
#

if what i said above is true, i assume youll reach 120fps easily that way

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but what do i know

silent oasisBOT
#

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

fallen harbor
#

again, go to youtube and type 10400f + rtx3070 benchmark

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it will give you an idea

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just dont upgrade before the game comes out

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itd be foolish

lusty hare
#

ill wait till the system requirements i guess

fallen harbor
#

I dont think the 3770 will reach 60fps easily on a new bf game with 128 players, BUT what i say doesnt matter a lot, maybe its super well and godly optimized

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or maybe not

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id say not

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but i know nothing

fallen harbor
lusty hare
#

yup

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btw what's the difference between rtx and gtx

real kernel
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rtx has ray tracing tech

fallen harbor
#

nvidia cards with "rtx" in their names mean they have a technology that has been recently added to games in real time rendering, called ray tracing

real kernel
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its a different way of rendering light

fallen harbor
#

games often look prettier with ray tracing, there are more reflections, but it consumes a lot of gpu power

lusty hare
#

so the gtx is replaced by rtx? i cant find a gtx 3080 but i can find a rtx 3080

fallen harbor
#

theres no gtx anymore

real kernel
#

yeah

fallen harbor
#

the most powerful gtx is the gtx1660ti

real kernel
#

gtx 16's is last

lusty hare
#

after 1660 its rtx?

fallen harbor
#

yes

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ever since the 2000 series its all rtx

real kernel
#

im scared i wont be able to run bf2042 on my gtx 1060 6g Sadge

lusty hare
#

hmm

fallen harbor
#

i really think bf2042 will have to be poorly optimized for a 1060 6gb to not reach 60fps on it

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on 1080p that is

plain stag
#

And medium settings

lusty hare
#

i just found a rtx 4000 wtf i thought the latest was 3090

plain stag
#

Rumor

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I mean its going to come out

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Eventually

fallen harbor
#

the latest is 3060 i think

plain stag
#

But specs of it are all rumors

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3050ti for laptops

real kernel
#

3090 exists

fallen harbor
#

3070 3080 and 3090 came first, then 3060

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and 3050 now i think?

real kernel
#

pretty sure 3060 already was there

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at launch

plain stag
#

Just on laptops

fallen harbor
#

no

real kernel
#

and 3090 was later

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might be tripping

lusty hare
#

3070 released latest

plain stag
#

3060 and 60ti came out later

lusty hare
#

last month

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oh its ti not the og

fallen harbor
#

the very first announced ones were 3070 3080 and 3090

plain stag
#

When 6700xt launched with 16gb, nvidia released 3060ti with 12gb

lusty hare
#

so the ti ones are more powerful right?

plain stag
#

And its 12gb for marketing purposes

lusty hare
#

i think they mean titan

fallen harbor
#

titanium

#

and yes

plain stag
#

Titan is a whole different card

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That no longer exist

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3090 should have been a titan card really

fallen harbor
#

3090 would be the new titan

#

ye

#

the titan of the 2000 gen was just called rtx titan

#

but itd be just like a 2090

lusty hare
#

rtx 1 million real life in computer lol

fallen harbor
#

what

plain stag
#

The latest card from nvidia is a 3050ti on laptops

#

But you can bet your ass they will announce for desktops soon as well

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Cuz 6600xt was announced yesterday

#

They usually announce very close to each other

lusty hare
#

so which one gives most power?

plain stag
#

Well 6600xt competes against a 3060ti

lusty hare
#

cos it will run 2042 at ease and the next battlefield games for 15 years

plain stag
#

But its more expensive as well

#

It's about 15% more expensive and about 15% more powerful

#

Depending of the game that is

arctic crag
#

How much is it?

fallen harbor
#

1 kidney

plain stag
#

379$ msrp

#

I think

arctic crag
#

Something weird has just happened

#

I set my pc to screen off after 30mins

#

The screen did turn off normally but after a couple hours the screen turned on by itself

#

And I’m sure the mouse didn’t move as it’s rgb also turns off after 15mins

#

And Microsoft store was opened and it saidi purchased Twitter and Candy crush

#

Then the screen turned off

#

Am I being hacked rn?

atomic jackal
#

why is my cpu 75 degrees when its only using %35?

wintry prairie
#

Because of thermals

near rune
#

because its maybe at a high clock speed

#

but not using all cores

atomic jackal
#

now it is %7

#

but 71 c

#

can i underclock my cpu?

#

can somebody show me how

near rune
#

why

#

do you have any programs running

#

that use cpu

#

check task manager

atomic jackal
#

only chrome

#

and even then

#

its still %17

south sierra
plain stag
#

It doesnt have a good mount

#

Its a very common thing when it comes to prebuilt pc's

#

But still, 70 degrees is well within operating range

#

It's just annoying that its that high

#

Since its a ryzen, max temps are 105c

#

But should you ever reach that kind of temp, the cpu will downclock itself to not reach 105

#

If that fails, then it will shut itself down to preserve itself

atomic jackal
#

i know

#

i will get my pc to a computer shop to see whats up

#

its either

#

1)old thermal paste

#

2)improperly seated cooler

#

or cpu is just faulty

#

like look at this dude

#

800 mhz

#

%10 use

#

60 degrees

#

that shit aint normal

#

worst case scenario

#

ill refund

#

i have a 14 day conditionless refund

plain stag
#

Your pc fine

#

Your cpu isnt faulty

#

It's operating well within spec

#

You don't have to refund anything

#

It's just a low end cooler that's not even mounted properly

#

And its not thermal paste age either, your pc is new and it was prob built in the last couple of months

#

And task manager isnt showing you real cpu speed

#

When your pc is barely doing anything it reduces clock speed to save power

#

You can see your real usage in ryzen master

#

And how much current you're drawing

#

Plus, it's very hot in your room

#

And it matters where your case is too

chrome skiff
#

I have a good cooler on my ryzen cpu in the ac and it idles at 40c and hits 50c on YouTube twitch movies etc

plain stag
#

If its in a smaller space, bellow desk, its circulating hot air more

#

My idle temp on 5600x is 35 degrees I think

atomic jackal
plain stag
#

35-40

#

But i have an AIO

#

Yes, but look at the cpu itself

#

When you're gaming

#

You're getting advertised speeds

#

Within operating temperature range

#

So you can immediately rule out that its faulty

#

The temps are high, but still well within specs

#

Your high temp issue will be fixed with a proper air cooler and a good mount, and that's it

#

I've seen your case, the front is mesh so you have enough airflow if you even have fans on the front

#

A poor mount is like the most common problem with prebuilt pc's

#

And cables not being plugged in

quasi dawn
#

just dont get a prebuilt next time lmfao

#

no shade though

plain stag
#

When you don't know about pc's it's not a bad option

#

It's just a matter of finding good SI's

quasi dawn
#

i agree. but learning doesnt take long

plain stag
#

That pay attention

quasi dawn
#

especially just the basics

#

fax

plain stag
#

He is worrying too much because he doesn't have pc knowledge

quasi dawn
#

yea

plain stag
#

But its a very easy fix when you identify a problem

atomic jackal
#

that is why

quasi dawn
#

agreed. i read and its definitely just cooler shit

#

i feel that

plain stag
#

It doesnt matter what you used, you don't have enough pc experience

#

And thats fine

atomic jackal
#

and i couldnt trust myself building an entire pc

plain stag
#

That's also a valid point

quasi dawn
#

but hey. once you do build one some day. its a great experience

plain stag
#

Yep

#

Very rewarding

quasi dawn
#

oh yeah fo sho

#

booting that shit up for the first time is the best

plain stag
#

Built one just recently

#

After a couple of years

#

I could build them every day

quasi dawn
#

fr

#

just wish i was linus

plain stag
#

Xd

#

So many parts

quasi dawn
#

right

atomic jackal
#

by the way

#

my gpu also has low usage

#

why is this

plain stag
#

when youre not doing anything, you wont have high usage

#

if youre playing a demanding game and you still have low usage, then it means your cpu is a bottleneck

#

but considering that you have a ryzen, i dont know which one, but im guessing in the 5000 series, you wont encounter too many bottlenecks

#

also if you look at the usage through task manager, it doesnt always show its being utilized

prime jasper
atomic jackal
#

on idle

#

this pc sounds like big trouble

opaque saddle
#

See if your cpu fan is working fine and not dusty? Or whether the cpu cooler is attached to the processor tightly?

plain stag
plain stag
#

its not big trouble

#

you literally just need a better cooler

atomic jackal
#

i will try a new one

#

but if it also doesnt help

#

ill refund

plain stag
#

well, you wont be able to refund

#

cuz you changed the cooler

atomic jackal
#

hmm

plain stag
#

i mean, it depends of your refund laws and shit

#

but your cpu is literally working properly

#

you dont need to refund, the cpu isnt defective

atomic jackal
#

They have 14 day conditionless refund but i can email them if they will accept the refund if i changed the fan

plain stag
atomic jackal
#

they probably won't

#

but this pc seems too much trouble

plain stag
#

but how is it too much trouble

atomic jackal
#

it gave me way too much anxiety, way too much stress on the past few days

plain stag
#

you literally have the most common and easiest problems that can be fixed

prime jasper
#

i get just over 70c with my 240mm aio

atomic jackal
near rune
#

50c is normal idle temp

#

for most pcs

plain stag
#

the other option you can do is you can return them the pc

#

and tell them that you want a new cooler

near rune
#

like doing idle tasks

plain stag
#

and let them put it on

atomic jackal
#

they dont do that i think

plain stag
#

that way you arent doing anything between them, so then your warranty will stay

plain stag
#

hence, the cpu is completely fine and not defective in any way, shape or form

atomic jackal
#

it runs at 800mhz and still 60 degrees

plain stag
#

whats your cpu

atomic jackal
#

amd r5 3600

plain stag
#

its running 800mhz

#

when

atomic jackal
#

idle

plain stag
#

when youre not doing anything?

atomic jackal
#

1000-800 idle

plain stag
#

ill tell you my idle speed now

#

oh would you look at that

#

800mhz

#

why?

#

because i have google chrome open only

#

and im not doing anything in the background

#

im even bellow now

#

400mhz

#

when im not typing its almost as low as 300mhz

#

turn on cinebench, or any other cpu benchmark tool

#

it will run within 3.6-4.2ghz

#

i.e. within spec

#

imagine if cpus were running at full speed at all times when youre not doing anything, sucking 100w for nothing

#

why would the cpu use 100w when it doesnt need to

#

cpu power usage for me now is 12W

atomic jackal
#

is my gpu not using %100 for the same reason?

plain stag
#

that depends of the game

atomic jackal
#

it barely reaches %50

#

in battlefield one

#

the most ive seen was %50

#

shouldn't it be using %100

prime jasper
#

its bottlenecking from your cpu

plain stag
#

i didnt have 100% usage either in bf1

#

but my cpu was the bottleneck

#

and i dont know which tool youre using

atomic jackal
#

tool?

#

i used afterburner to check

#

my cpu was at %15 and my gpu was at %50-40

plain stag
#

okay

#

temp?

#

settings

#

im running cinebench R20 right now, and im at 4.6ghz on all 6 cores right now

#

using 71W of power

atomic jackal
#

temp is 55 on gpu

#

83-79 on cpu

#

but

#

with %30 usage

#

not under load

#

for the cpu

plain stag
#

and my temp is 67c

#

What about game settings

#

Which gpu you have