technology

[plain stag]

if the price is very similar like it is in my region

[short pier]

Whatever is available

[plain stag]

i feel you

[short pier]

Ye

[plain stag]

but a 3070 is great

for 1080p/1440p

you should be fine for a couple of years

[short pier]

Yeah 1440p with 3600 should be fine with only a small bottleneck. With DLSS it won't be an issue

[shrewd isle]

Is it worth getting a gpu now? i mean the prices are all a rip off here and im based in the UK

[storm osprey]

No

[fluid jolt]

wait until after the chip shortage

[night laurel]

i thought of replacing my mouse with logitech hero but i changed my mind and got another g102, except with improved lightsync

[storm osprey]

Why not just get a g203?

[quick locust]

I use wired with a bungee, is nice

[dry pike]

I had a Roccat plastic mousepad at one point. I couldn't handle the heat from the mouse and began bending. Most useless thing ever.

[supple bane]

im using a plastic mousepad rn from logitech. and i love it

my aim has never been better whilst using it

[dry pike]

I use large cloth mats now, that is what I like the most

But, with 1 product Roccat managed to ruin their reputation with me.

[storm rune]

Yo does anyone here have like an 2m desk table that isnt made from solid wood?

[runic valve]

what an odd question

[plucky token]

and yes, i do have one

[runic valve]

same here

[storm rune]

So does it bent in the middle or no? Because im planning on buying 2 ikea alex dressers and a desk table that is made from this http://imgur.com/a/MCXJ8Cj (sorry that it is in Polish, it was the only picture that i could find) and im wondering if it will bend (the desk table is gonna be 195x80x3.8 cm@runic valve @plucky token

[runic valve]

mine doesnt, and its a 20 dollar plastic table

[storm rune]

Oh

[plucky token]

mine doesn't as well. it's Ikea

and your's is thicker then what i have

[runic valve]

it is a miracle that my desk has not imploded

[storm rune]

Yea i was thinking about buying an ikea desk table but its only 3cm

Could you show me how your setup looks?

[plucky token]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/422598689928773632/852415389383262260/20210608_135056.jpg?width=1082&height=676

[runic valve]

god its so good

i wish i had the time to do that

[plucky token]

there you go

[plucky token]

thanks :)

[storm rune]

Ngl looks great, but what does it lay on?

[plucky token]

magic~

it has 4 feets in total

[storm rune]

Damn so I should be fine

[plucky token]

one on the left side, 2 in the middle (you can see them) and one and the right

[storm rune]

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/alex-drawer-unit-white-00473546/

Im planning on putting these two to the sides

[plucky token]

that should be fine

[storm rune]

http://imgur.com/a/4ZV07Dr

Something like this

Sadly in Poland we dont have the grey drawers

[plucky token]

that won't budge a millimetre

[storm rune]

Ok, thanks

[plucky token]

like, my setup weighs in total around 70kg

and the table thickness is 2cm

[storm rune]

Only?

[plucky token]

yep

[storm rune]

Lol

So yea i should be more than fine

[plucky token]

for sure :D

[pulsar sentinel]

Nice

[unreal torrent]

hi guys, im having an issue where when i load up BF1 i cant hear anyone in discord and they cant hear me unless i tab back out of BF1 to discord, anyone have any fixes for this?

[prime jasper]

Should I buy the ps5 now or wait?

[proud trellis]

just get a leg, i have an ikea desk also

just get a leg to put in the middle of it

[toxic zealot]

what the f

[quick locust]

https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_s_r_d_spending_has_been_boosted_by_over_40_year-over-year/1

[agile oasis]

Is there a way to boost my internet

or am I stuck with shitty internet forever

[near rune]

buy a better one

[quick locust]

Getting a better ISP or subscription

And use wired when possible

[agile oasis]

tf is wired

Is that like Ethernet?

[near rune]

yes ethernet

[agile oasis]

I'm too poor ):

[agile oasis]

Alr, is there an Ethernet cable you'd recommend?

[near rune]

theres so many of them theres really not one thats good

i would just pop into a store and buy one

[agile oasis]

So they are all pretty much the same?

[near rune]

they have different speed caps depending on the generation

but like 99% support over 250mbps

[agile oasis]

Wait bruh I can't even get Ethernet unless I have some kind of USB extender

cos I need to use all my USB ports

Or whatever they are called

[agile oasis]

Is that.... good?

[near rune]

your pc doesnt have an ethernet port?

[agile oasis]

It might do

not sure didn't check

[near rune]

its a big thing its easy to notice

[agile oasis]

What do they look like

[near rune]

google

[agile oasis]

uhhhh lemme seeee

bruh I just noticed I have an entire other set of USB ports

bruh

[near rune]

unless its a cheapo laptop it has an ethernet port

[agile oasis]

Yeah it has an ethernet port

btw why are BF games so well optimised?

like my shitty ass PC is running BF1 60 fps medium

and BF3 50-60 FPS high

[near rune]

because they just are

[agile oasis]

I mean they must of put alot of money into that

[near rune]

when i got bf4 i was really surprised how optimized it is

i get better fps in 4 than 3

[agile oasis]

Bf5 is the one filled with hackers isn't it

[near rune]

not really

none of the games are filled with cheaters

[agile oasis]

Thats what I got from all the steam reviews lol

Hackers that are recognised by their users

[near rune]

most of them just think every good player is a cheater

i dont listen to those

[agile oasis]

XD

Omg he shot me in the head 3 times!!!! He's a hacker!!!!!!

Report him now!!!!!!

[midnight crypt]

The amount of cheaters varies by region

[agile oasis]

I haven't came across any cheaters yet in BF1

which is good

Well I probably have but haven't realised it

[quick locust]

But yeah get better ISP, subscription and use wired

[agile oasis]

hm alr

I use BT network

which is decent

[visual quail]

i havent came across any cheaters at all playing battlefield

ive never ran into cheaters in any game but gta

[agile oasis]

How long u been playing battlefield?

[visual quail]

late 2015

[agile oasis]

sheesh

[supple bane]

Its not just the isp but the package you get

[visual quail]

bf3

[agile oasis]

ah right

I think it's pretty much the street I live on really

[supple bane]

No

[agile oasis]

If I go to one of my friends houses thats closer to town he has good internet

I live more in the country

so thats probably why

[supple bane]

Well if you live in a rural area its less likely any isp will provide a good package

[agile oasis]

Yeah apparently BF3 has barely any hackers

[supple bane]

I live in a city and the max speed i can get is 500mpbs.

[agile oasis]

Sheeeeesh

thats fast bloody internet

[prime jasper]

??

[agile oasis]

wait

[supple bane]

But my cousin lived out in the country and couldnt even watch youtube

[agile oasis]

wait for the prices to go down

[prime jasper]

I found it for 400€

[agile oasis]

Oof, I sometimes can't watch youtube too, or I watch it in 144P

[supple bane]

You live in the uk im guessing ?

Cuz you said bt

[quick locust]

What's your package

[agile oasis]

Check it's not the box or just a controller

[midnight crypt]

400?

its 100% broken

[agile oasis]

Yeah I live in the UK'

[prime jasper]

Yes, the whole ps5, no digital

In a store

[supple bane]

https://www.bt.com/products/broadband/deals?s_cid=con_bt_dg-home_ess_ppc-brand_vidZ60&vendorid=Z60&esskwid=p9328922039&gclsrc=aw.ds&ds_rl=1276299&gclid=CjwKCAjwo4mIBhBsEiwAKgzXONjbguyTVnWogqgHmyV4mtk7B3jZ2lutVj_jrjs_riLJ3BCBNTncIhoCAzgQAvD_BwE

Put your postcode in there and itll tell you what package you can get

[agile oasis]

"stay fast Gurantee"

bruh BT is lying

[supple bane]

It may also be that you are paying for a package and not getting the advertised speeds. In which case you need to call bt and get them to sort it out

[agile oasis]

Well that fucking explains it

bruh my max package is under 100Mb

[quick locust]

What's your current package

[agile oasis]

I've no clue

under 18 so I don't deal with that stuff

I assume it's pretty shitty though

[supple bane]

Bt doesnt offer diddle squat for my address

[agile oasis]

XD

[supple bane]

With bt the best i can get is less than 100mbps, on a 4g router.

With virgin they offer gigabit now for my area

[agile oasis]

Yeah 100mbps is the highest I can get lol

[supple bane]

And the gigabit from virgin is cheaper than what bt is asking for 60mbps

[agile oasis]

65mbps to 73mbps is fucking 35 pouds

MB*

not mpps

[supple bane]

Thats about right

[agile oasis]

or is that the same thing

[supple bane]

Its the same thing

[agile oasis]

ah right

[supple bane]

Pretty cheap actually

[agile oasis]

I don't really havem uch of a concept of internet cost so

[prime jasper]

bro

[agile oasis]

so

[prime jasper]

Its not possible to go to another solar system at the moment when it may take us 15 years to go to mars

[agile oasis]

I mean, it is possible

[prime jasper]

bro like i said

its still being researched

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Starshot

read this

[agile oasis]

you just might be dead at the end of the trip

[prime jasper]

We can't even get to a solar system yet with a probe

We conquered earth and the american frontier in the late 1800s and early 1900s

now we are focusing on the final frontier of space

[agile oasis]

I mean, we could, it would just take a while

[shell salmon]

Through culling the indigenous population

[prime jasper]

Not before humanity dies off no

[plain stag]

we still didint even explore the full extent of our planet

[agile oasis]

But we still could, so I don't get your argument here

[prime jasper]

It would take 78,000 years for a probe that went to pluto to reach the closest solar system with a planet

thats 70s tech

we are in 2021 now

almost 50 years ago

[prime jasper]

2006 tech

[shell salmon]

Much as I agree that man's destiny lies in the stars, we do not have the technology to make trips like this to habitate a planet

[agile oasis]

We'll probably still be around in 78,000 years

[prime jasper]

That's not true

[agile oasis]

Your evidence...?

[shell salmon]

Ehhh

[plain stag]

well, if we continue to destroy our planet, we wont

[shell salmon]

Not before we kill ourselves

[prime jasper]

@prime jasper Bruh wtf?

We aint gunna kill ourselfs

its impossbile for humans to go extinct

[shell salmon]

So let's get some stuff down

[prime jasper]

Climate change will burn us up if we don't stop it, overpopulation, etc

[plain stag]

no, but we will kill our planet, or out planet will kill us

[prime jasper]

maybe a few million years ago

[shell salmon]

First off, the materials

[prime jasper]

That's not true

[shell salmon]

Resources are finite

[agile oasis]

in 78,000 years Elon Musk would of probably made some kind of human incest alien program

[plain stag]

impossible lol

[shell salmon]

You cannot synthesize everything

[prime jasper]

Lmao bro you underestimate how easy humans adapt to climates

[agile oasis]

and launched us to different planets

[shell salmon]

Second off,

[prime jasper]

the world will get hotter and wetter and we will adapt

end of

get over it

[shell salmon]

Let's not forget that nuclear weapons exist

[prime jasper]

now reversing it now

[agile oasis]

Boom

[prime jasper]

You mean the people who can't even follow cdc guidelines can adapt to climate change?

[shell salmon]

Mankind will destroy itself regardless if it comes to it

[prime jasper]

no one is brave or stupid enough to se nukes

" just wear 10 masks bro"

[agile oasis]

Just kill people who don't follow climate change rules simple

[plain stag]

lmao, you overestimate the ability the amount of food that we can produce if we continue to destroy the planet

[prime jasper]

That's inhumane

[agile oasis]

So???

[prime jasper]

we have unlimtied food

[agile oasis]

Have you read about ww1?

[prime jasper]

you ever been the beach?

1000s of fish there

to eat

[plain stag]

okay, clearly he's a troll so

[prime jasper]

That will die with climate change

[agile oasis]

Over fishing.......

[plain stag]

or you are so uneducated that

[prime jasper]

Ill just eat squid then

[agile oasis]

it's already a problem

[prime jasper]

or sharks

[shell salmon]

Sure the civilized world agrees, but how about those countries who are too brave for their own good?

[agile oasis]

Over fishing......

[prime jasper]

That will die with climate change

[agile oasis]

Nuke them'

[plain stag]

the amount of sharks reduced so much in the past 20 years alone

[prime jasper]

@agile oasis bro me catching and eating 1 fish wont do shit

[shell salmon]

I know MAD has been disputed and agreed upon

[plain stag]

cuz the ocean temperatures went up by a few degrees

which is too much for sharks

[shell salmon]

Nuclear Disarmament is a big thing

[plain stag]

let alone other fish

and mass finishing thats happening all around the world

[agile oasis]

By the time climate change started then most of de fish r dead

[shell salmon]

We have come a long way from the cold war, but not everyone has agreed

[agile oasis]

cus of warmer oceans and shit

[prime jasper]

We all need to accept that the world is only going to get warmer and wetter

[plain stag]

1 fish for you, but theres 8 billion people on the planet

[agile oasis]

What kind of wet

[prime jasper]

Enjoy the new tropical europe

@agile oasis extreme rain

flooding

[agile oasis]

like wet and sticky or...... just wet wet

[prime jasper]

WW3 is inevitable, russia will nuke the us and the us will nuke russia, accelerating the decay of our planet

It will happen sooner or later

No one is going to nuke anyone

[shell salmon]

Ehh, probably not russia

[prime jasper]

nukes are just a toy

[agile oasis]

Yo russia isn't that stupid that it'd nuke America

[shell salmon]

Russia and US are not that dumb

[plain stag]

even if nobody nuked anybody, the climate change will destroy most of our food production

[prime jasper]

No one on the planet is dumb enough to use nukes

[agile oasis]

They wouldn't cause an end of the world scenario

[shell salmon]

It would a chain reaction thing,

[midnight crypt]

This isnt Tech talk

[prime jasper]

nukes were used only 2 times

[agile oasis]

cus they are not stupid

[prime jasper]

and it was in 1945

[agile oasis]

Sure it is, if you put it in the right context

[shell salmon]

Atom Bombs,

[prime jasper]

@midnight crypt ? it is

[shell salmon]

Not nukes

[plain stag]

fish will die out at seas

[agile oasis]

Atom bombs would destroy us all

[shell salmon]

Nukes are far more destructive

[prime jasper]

You say that now, but what president will we have in 10 years, and will putin be gone in 5, there are situations that we cannot plan for that can affect our attitude on nukes

[agile oasis]

very quickly

[plain stag]

crops wont be able to survive the everincreasing temperature

[prime jasper]

I want a putin in every nation

every nation ran and led by a putin

[shell salmon]

Hah, Putin will never get rid of his seat of power

[prime jasper]

putin will be in power to 2036 btw

[shell salmon]

He's been in power since the fucking 90s

[prime jasper]

I didn't mean voluntarily

[plain stag]

yeah, some, but most crops that we produce cant

[prime jasper]

thats when his "term" ends

[agile oasis]

I'm sure humans will find a way to have sex with plants and make them unable to be killed by heat

[prime jasper]

?

bruh

[plain stag]

thats not how biology works

[agile oasis]

Humans can do anything

[prime jasper]

He's a troll

[agile oasis]

Have you seen some of the shit that humans have made

[prime jasper]

lol

[plain stag]

the planet can make us extinct with a blink of an eye

[prime jasper]

Nah

it cant

[plain stag]

we are so insignificant and powerless

[prime jasper]

All it takes is one solar flare coming the wrong direction, we are all dead or our planets destroyed

[shell salmon]

My personal opinion on nukes stands on MAD, they are forces of raw destruction that leave scars for generations to come, and will claim the lives of million upon millions, perhaps billions of innocent lives

[agile oasis]

says the fucking person that said we won't ever be able to make it to another solar system and we would be all dead in 78,000 years

like wt

[plain stag]

one random asteroid coming in too close, and half the world is gone

[shell salmon]

Nuclear power? Yes. Nuclear armaments? Not ideal

[agile oasis]

Yes lol

[shell salmon]

Let's not forget supernovas

[prime jasper]

can we all agree that we are all stupid as fuck and wont agree on anything?

[prime jasper]

That's not a troll, we can't make it to a solar system right now, and we won't be alive in 78,000 years at this rate of damage. Its not trolling

[agile oasis]

Yes we are all stupid as fuck

[plain stag]

no, we arent stupid as fuck like you

[shell salmon]

I'm stubborn, but I aint stupid

[agile oasis]

Dude, Jeff Bezos went to space in a dick shaped rocket, anything is possible

[prime jasper]

I'm not stupid, we all have factual arguments except @agile oasis

[agile oasis]

I'm not arguing

[plain stag]

good job for him

its not like its the first time humans went to space

so its hardly an achievement

[agile oasis]

Yes but that was like the first commercial flight

[plain stag]

still

[prime jasper]

Nope

[plain stag]

hardly an achievement

[agile oasis]

Who was the first commercial flight?

[prime jasper]

Virgin Galactic beat him by a week

[agile oasis]

Sure, but in like 10-20 years or so Elon musk is plans to land fucking Humans on mars and establish a colony

thats an achievment

[prime jasper]

Just planning

[agile oasis]

Ah right

[plain stag]

being the first commercial flight is not a significant achievement

[agile oasis]

He's already got drones and rovers and all that shit up there

[plain stag]

and mars is a hostile planet

[shell salmon]

Mars is allegedly habitable, but I'd say it's about barely that

[plain stag]

that we cant just willy nilly teraform

[agile oasis]

Yeah I think it's ganna be super hard to settle there

cos of all the toxic gasses and stuff

and the dust storms

[prime jasper]

Mars is not habitable without a space suit (wrong reply)

[agile oasis]

and the travel there

[agile oasis]

Yeah I know

[plain stag]

even if we end up making a colony on mars, its not a guarantee that humans will survive

[shell salmon]

I'd love to see mankind explore the final frontier. Man's destiny ever since the 70s lies among the stars, but we cannot say when this will fully be possible to fulfill

[agile oasis]

Yeah, I recon they'd have significantly reduced life span

[plain stag]

the nearest earth like planet is 4 light years away

[agile oasis]

Thats a long fucking way away

[plain stag]

a planet that we wont be able to reach

[prime jasper]

Also you realize that IF humans made it to mars, the first people will be by themselves with no help for at minimum 8 months - a year

No way to verify if they are dead either

[agile oasis]

How long does it take to get to mars via rocket?

[prime jasper]

8 months to a year and a half

[agile oasis]

They'd have vital monitors wouldn't they, just an 8 minute delay or something

[plain stag]

and mars is relatively close

[agile oasis]

Oh wow thats a long ass time

[prime jasper]

Pretty sure its a 30 minute delay

[plain stag]

now imagine how far is proxima b

[agile oasis]

Oh yeah

[plain stag]

thats the nearest earth like planet

even if they can monitor them, its next to useless

[agile oasis]

How long is 4 light years in like

normal years

[plain stag]

cuz they cant send help in the next 8 months at least xD

[prime jasper]

The fastest ship we have ever flown would take 78,000 years to get to the next solar system

[plain stag]

well, if we went at the speed of light, it would take us 4 years to reach it

[agile oasis]

Yeah, imagine reviving a distress signal and going up there just to come across corpses

like oof

[agile oasis]

Oh I thought it was a different measurement, right

[shell salmon]

LV-426

Yep

[plain stag]

and clearly we arent anywhere near to having tech thats possible at traversing at ~300.000km/s

[prime jasper]

Any first researchers on mars would be walking to their deaths most likely, even elon admitted

[agile oasis]

According to Einstein isn't it impossible to travel at the speed of light

[prime jasper]

Not impossible =/= possible by humans

[agile oasis]

Because of some kind of relativity law

[agile oasis]

ah right

Just extremely difficult

[prime jasper]

Also moving at that speed of light messes with time according to Einstein

[agile oasis]

Yeah I bet it woudl

I wonder what it would feel like going at the speed of light

going at 200+ MPH feels weird as hell

[plain stag]

well, we would first have to make a way to negate the G forces

[shell salmon]

I imagine the human mind cant comprehend such a thing

[agile oasis]

so wtf would 300,000 km/s feel like

[agile oasis]

Yeah that would kill you almost instantly

[plain stag]

actually no

negating G forces is way way way down the list

[prime jasper]

Also by the time mars can even become self sustainable, our planet will probably be dead by then

[agile oasis]

Send a shit tone of seeds up

send a shit tone of people up

send a shit tone of animals up

bingo bango self sustainable

[prime jasper]

That wouldn't be enough to replace earth

[agile oasis]

True

[plain stag]

things that cant survive on mars

[agile oasis]

You'd have a dome

Or some kind of Ecosystem

[plain stag]

even with a dome, the amount of work needed for them to survive in artificial environment

[agile oasis]

Yeah I guess

it would be a shit tone of work

[storm rune]

Nah im not getting an ikea desk, im buying alex drawers there and thats all

[proud trellis]

but what top are u putting on ?

[atomic jackal]

guys

i got a tempered glass case

but i dont know where to open it

[plain stag]

the back of it

[atomic jackal]

its asus tuf gt301

[proud trellis]

you want to take the glass off basically ?

[atomic jackal]

i want to open it because im going to install the gpu

[plain stag]

you have two thumb screws at the back

you unscrew them and slide out the glass

[atomic jackal]

oh i see

[plain stag]

its always either two thumb screws at the back of the case, or the side where the glass is

[atomic jackal]

can you help me install it via video call?

[storm osprey]

install the gpu? just look at a youtube video

hell, take off the gpu sleeve, unscrew the amount of slots your need on the back of your case, slide gpu into pcie slot until it clicks, screw gpu into place at the back of case, plug in pcie power connectors, done

[arctic crag]

The most important thing is to hold it gently

[quaint sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNs8-nyi7mU

[quick locust]

38 core 10nm Xeon W

[atomic jackal]

guys

uhh my extremely stubborn father insists on mounting a card himseld

but he has no computer knowledge

whatsoever

and he doesn't let me near the pc

what do ido

he "mounted" the gpu

but the fans arent spinning

[supple bane]

they wont at idle

[atomic jackal]

oh

[supple bane]

is the computer on and working ?

[atomic jackal]

yeah

[supple bane]

well then its fine

[atomic jackal]

but

the gpu isnt visible

on the list

[supple bane]

you need to install drivers

[quick locust]

A lot of newer GPUs don't have fan spin at idle

Yeah get driver

[supple bane]

you cant play any games until you install drivers

[atomic jackal]

device manager doesnt show it

is it normal

[supple bane]

becauseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

you need to install

drum roll please

DRIVERS

what gpu is it? @atomic jackal

[atomic jackal]

asus tuf gaming 3060

[coarse nimbus]

Did you get a CD in the package

[supple bane]

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/177774/en-us

[atomic jackal]

well we havent connected ethernet yet

so i will do it after

[coarse nimbus]

No cd drive?

[supple bane]

i hope you are joking bmac

[coarse nimbus]

I mean... would his father not use one still

Or do they not send those out anymore.. sorry haven't been able to buy a freaking card this year

[quick locust]

Some do like my Gainward

But you can just download anyway

[supple bane]

yeah for some reason they do despite no one havinig disk readers anymore

[atomic jackal]

the pc itself doesnt have iy

why are elderly so stubborn?

[quick locust]

I have one

[supple bane]

yeah but you have like a 50 year old case so.

[atomic jackal]

he didnt even let me build my own pc

[quick locust]

50? Wow I'm retro

[quaint sleet]

make sure the power cables are plugged in lol

[coarse nimbus]

Also a USB one is like$20 same as a built in one so..not impossible to get

[quick locust]

But yeah just connect ethernet then download

[supple bane]

@atomic jackal seriously you NEED to do that though. its not just something you can shrug off

[atomic jackal]

need what drivers?

[supple bane]

i sent you a link >:((((

[atomic jackal]

i dont have ethernet yet >:(((

[supple bane]

well then plug in the cable >:(((

[atomic jackal]

man why cant my family just be normal

i was going to build my pc in peace

i was kind a struggling with the gpu and my dad came over and just ruined it all

he broke the pci e button thinh

2 tines

[quick locust]

What

[coarse nimbus]

but I'm the crazy one for mentioning a CD drive 😩

[supple bane]

you mean the clip on the slot ?

[atomic jackal]

yeah

[supple bane]

yeah been there done that

[atomic jackal]

the one you put down before mounting gpu

[supple bane]

it usually only happens on cheap boards tho.

[atomic jackal]

cheat boards?

[quaint sleet]

m8 tell your dad to piss off unless he bought it

[supple bane]

i imagine his dad did buy it

[atomic jackal]

he did

thats why i cant tell anything

its his money

[quick locust]

Just let him do it then

[quaint sleet]

🤷

[atomic jackal]

man my family members are so tech illiterate

they jump like monkeys

when they saw me installing gpu

"desktop is such a hassle, why didnt you buy a laptop"

well you didnt let me

[supple bane]

that hurts my soul

[atomic jackal]

yeah just chillin in the living room now

[quick locust]

He could've just bought prebuilt with that mindset

They're mostly alright

[supple bane]

gamers nexus would disagree

[quick locust]

He recommended a few

But yeah the Dell ones

[supple bane]

the best ive heard from him is "i mostly recommend this"

[atomic jackal]

hm

now ethernet is connected

but there isnt internet

[supple bane]

is it connected on the other end ?

[atomic jackal]

unrecognized network - no internet

that's what it says

[atomic jackal]

yeah

[supple bane]

do you have it plugged right into your router ?

[molten bramble]

Sounds like your eth0 doesn't know where the gateway is.

[atomic jackal]

yeah

[supple bane]

do you have another cable you could try?

[atomic jackal]

he says that it lights green

which port do i put it

theres one blue

4 yellow

[supple bane]

well i dont know what router it is so i dont know

try a different one and see

and do you have a different cable you can try?

[quaint sleet]

in yellow

the one blue port is for your modem/otp

[atomic jackal]

ok im downloading a driver

my dad is paranoid now

i keep telling him to wait until the driver

he keeps blabbing stuff

why is he so weird

if youre so worried

why didnt you just let me

i dont understand elderly people

[atomic jackal]

man

you wont believe it

he plugged it in the blue port

hahahaha

[quaint sleet]

👏

[supple bane]

Whats he paranoid about if the computer is working?

[quaint sleet]

the feds

[atomic jackal]

the fans werent working

but i installed the drivers

and it spins now

👍

[supple bane]

Well tell him they dont spin at idle

[atomic jackal]

but now

hes paranoid about spare parts in the mobo box

"if they put it there it must have a use"

"youre missing something"

[supple bane]

They come with spares yes

[coarse nimbus]

Extra screws and standoffs?

Or some connectors

[atomic jackal]

yeah

some cables

it says gdv on it

i overheard their conversation and apparently i was a "dumbass" and if they put it there, it must be put on the pc and that i didnt know anything about computers

he brags about his electrical degree in 70s

like dude

there werent even gpus at that time

[supple bane]

show him that

thats my box of spares that ive accumulated

[atomic jackal]

he also criticizes me asking for help online

man im just so fucking tired

[supple bane]

there is about 5000 screws. brackets. cables, plates

[atomic jackal]

whenever we get a new thing

they just flock to my rokm

my brother shit talks me for the entire time

when he doesnt help anything at all

anyway where can i install the other drivers

i think Microsoft update downloads those drivers right

[quaint sleet]

m8
did you forget the io shield

[atomic jackal]

well i didnt mount the tempered glass yet

because agaib

he insisted i didnt put it now

for some reason

man im afraid im finna become a murderer

[supple bane]

have you installed the drivers from the link i sent you?

those are the only ones you need to install

windows will do the rest

[atomic jackal]

yeah i did

i installed the card drivers

its up n running now

ill check from the device manager again

after windows

but i dont know if i installed uefi or normal

i get asus logo first then windows

shouldn't i get only asus

[quaint sleet]

asussy

[atomic jackal]

[supple bane]

Bro. Your computer is fine.

Quit stressin

[atomic jackal]

man my family members are assholes

[quaint sleet]

unless it aint then you should be stressin

[atomic jackal]

what can i do

[supple bane]

Nothing. There is nothing to do.

[atomic jackal]

its normal to be stressed a little when you are shit talked and looked down for 2 hours

[supple bane]

Your finished

Put the conputer on the desk and start gaming!

[atomic jackal]

wait

i dont have the "activate windows" message

yay?

why is my program files on the 60gb windows partition?

why cant i use my 2tb ssd

[quaint sleet]

why tf is windoze only 60gb partitioned

[atomic jackal]

i wanted to use the other part for my games

and 60gb for my windows

[quaint sleet]

you have 2 driveS?

[atomic jackal]

yws

a ssd and a hdd

[quaint sleet]

2tb ssd

woop

[atomic jackal]

hdd

250gb ssd

2tb hdd

[quaint sleet]

brogram files will be on the ssd

[atomic jackal]

uhh what do i do then

[quaint sleet]

steam and origin can install to the hdd

[atomic jackal]

did i fuck up

[quaint sleet]

nah m8 thats windoze

[opaque saddle]

SSDs are getting cheaper these days. Especially TLC (please ignore QLC ssd)

[atomic jackal]

can i also download games on my hdd even though program files are on ssd?

[quaint sleet]

might want to repartition that windoez part to use the full ssd then

[opaque saddle]

Yes

[quaint sleet]

yesh

steem and orgn will do that

[atomic jackal]

alright so ill combine the 2 partitions

from disk mgmt

correct

?

[opaque saddle]

But I would only run older games or less resource demanding games on HDD

[quaint sleet]

✅

[opaque saddle]

People should be running AAA titles on SSD and not HDD

Coz it will save a lot of time

[atomic jackal]

so

do i delete the 160gb partition

to combine it

[quaint sleet]

ehh

[normal crow]

Hi

How many fps can i get in battlefield 5 with r5 1600 and gtx 1650

[quaint sleet]

as many as you want honey

id guess about 60

[normal crow]

Oh

[quaint sleet]

depending on settings and resolution

[normal crow]

Medium settings 60fps?

[quaint sleet]

🤷

[normal crow]

🫂 😩

[atomic jackal]

wait

i deleted the ssd partition now

but it doesnt let me enlarge c

why

[quaint sleet]

"Extend volume"

is that greyed out in the right click menu?

[atomic jackal]

yes

i dont know why

[quaint sleet]

pm me a screen of dskmg if youd like

[delicate wharf]

1440 or 4k going forward?

[molten bramble]

This is not a topic for this channel.

[high bay]

oh sorry wrong one

[quaint sleet]

1440

[opaque saddle]

1440p 144hz gaming is better than 4K 60hz gaming

[arctic crag]

4K is more than you need

[opaque saddle]

I have both 1440p 144hz monitor and a 4K monitor. We don’t really need 4k especially in gaming

[arctic crag]

1440p is the sweet spot

[opaque saddle]

I think 1080p 144hz is cost efficient

[arctic crag]

1080p isn’t enough anymore in my opinion

[quick locust]

I use 1440 144

[midnight crypt]

1080p looks too blurry

[opaque saddle]

Cost efficient doesn’t always mean good

[arctic crag]

1080p is good if you want a semi constant 240fps

That’s with at least an rtx 3060 ti

[opaque saddle]

It means good balance between hardware and the price

[arctic crag]

Once you go with 1440p you will never ever go back to 1080p

[supple bane]

i have a 1440p and a 1080p panel side by side. both 27" and i struggle to see the difference

[opaque saddle]

I have jumped from 1080p to 1440p and to 1440p ultrawide

[supple bane]

its there. if i look for it

but if i was playing a fast paced game i wouldnt notice

[opaque saddle]

1080p fps gaming is more than enough

1080p is capable for everyday tasks in 2021

However, I feel like for productivity wise, I will go for 4k or 1440p ultrawide, rather than 1080p because it is so limited in productivity wise.

[heady pawn]

If you have a low FPS rate, just decrease your resolution

[quaint sleet]

this is cap

[proud trellis]

hm cap

[storm osprey]

you gotta have poo eye sight to not notice jaggies on a 1080p 27" monitor

[quaint sleet]

mf got bacon grease on they glasses

forced aa

[atomic jackal]

bruh i realized

i installed ide windows

💀

its fine though

[quaint sleet]

m8

[atomic jackal]

i reinstalled windows in a minute

its all good

[quaint sleet]

nah go back and do ntfs or whatever

ide is from the stone age

[atomic jackal]

exactly

i reinstalled windows for that reasob

god bless ssds

windows installed in 20 seconds

[arctic crag]

And they say money can’t buy time lol

[atomic jackal]

if anyone tells you "money cant buy x" call them out on their bullshit

you are able to buy everything with money

[lean cipher]

what should i have my resolution scale at i have a 3060 ti 5600x

[arctic crag]

100% why would you change it?

[lean cipher]

dont know

i dont rlly know what it does lol

[lean cipher]

and for bf1 should i have anti aliasing at TAA or off

[arctic crag]

TAA

[lean cipher]

ok

[lean cipher]

what about mesh quality

ultra or high

[arctic crag]

Resolution scale can make your gpu render the game at a higher resolution than your native

[atomic jackal]

its normal for gpu fans to stop when not under load right?

like i only have a chrome page rn and fans dont spin

[lean cipher]

oh ok

[arctic crag]

But you will not get the same results as someone with 1440p or 4K it’s like simulation

[arctic crag]

Mesh quality ultra

[lean cipher]

yes

[lean cipher]

ok

[arctic crag]

If your gpu is under 60C your gpu fans shouldn’t be running

[atomic jackal]

yeah they arent running

[arctic crag]

What model you got?

[atomic jackal]

asus tuf gaming 3060

i think it is a feature

[arctic crag]

Yes it’s a feature

[atomic jackal]

great

[lean cipher]

here are my settings
texture quality: ultra
texture filtering: high
mesh quality: ultra
AA: TAA
post processing: low
lighting: medium
effects: medium
terrain: low
undergrowth: low
ambient occlusion: off
are they good

[atomic jackal]

it occasionally starts every once a while

its like 39°C here

so its normal

i have a lot of fans on my case though

at least 5

so it helps

[arctic crag]

Are you a competitive player?

[arctic crag]

While being idle?

[atomic jackal]

yeah like when i downloaded the drivers fans started for a while

but stopped again

[arctic crag]

You mean installing?

[atomic jackal]

yeah

[arctic crag]

Yeah pretty normal

[atomic jackal]

im so glad i didnt break the gpu

it felt like it was going to break

[arctic crag]

Don’t worry these things are solid

But remember

Hold it gently like you’re holding a woman

[atomic jackal]

sweat doesnt cause shortcuts right

i mean if my gpu is working it means it doenst

haha

i was sweating from nervousness when installing

[arctic crag]

Haha chill man it’s not a bomb

[atomic jackal]

hahaha i know

it's like a cocktail of excitement and nervousness

it has passed though

i feel a little bit pressure on my chest still for some reason still

leftover adrenaline

[arctic crag]

We all did don’t worry

[atomic jackal]

id probably install the tempered glass once im done with stıff

is it fine if i install while its running?

its not conductive or anything so

[midnight crypt]

its fine

[arctic crag]

It’s mostly ok

You can’t turn off your pc and put it on if you’re really worried

[atomic jackal]

probably what im going to do tbh

[lean cipher]

im in between

i want good visuals and i want good fps at the same time

[arctic crag]

Ok just make sure mesh quality is ultra

[atomic jackal]

btw

[lean cipher]

ok

[atomic jackal]

an update is stuck at %100

[lean cipher]

are the settings good tho

[atomic jackal]

is that ok

i mean the pc is fine

its just that it kinda bugs me

[arctic crag]

Yea

[plain stag]

you can put texture filtering to ultra as well, it hardly affects performance at all, texture filtering in bf is anisotropic filtering in other games and the settings for that is usually x1, x2, x4, x8, x16, you can set it to x16 as theres no impact to performance at all, or maybe like 1fps from x1 to x16 at best

it determines how blurry are the textures when viewed at an angle

[lean cipher]

ok

[plain stag]

also ambient occlusion set to off destroys a lot of visual quality when it comes to objects giving off shadows

with it being set to off, they dont create any shadow around them

which looks really bad

you got SSAO and HBAO+

im pretty sure those are the two settings that are in bf games

HBAO+ is nvidia tech, and it looks better than SSAO

SSAO occludes objects only that are in your view

[storm osprey]

ambient occlusion looks fake af to me

objects just dont create a shadow "aura"

[plain stag]

and HBAO+ isnt that expensive

that depends where the light source is coming from

[storm osprey]

right, so again, universally creating a shadow aura is wrong

its like that time gamers were complaining that car game didnt have the under car shadow that everyone was used to

[plain stag]

its not universally creating a shadow aura

light bounces off an object

and as light bounces, it loses intensity

[storm osprey]

thats not what ambient occlusion does

[plain stag]

https://vr.arvilab.com/storage/app/media/posts/ssao-vs-xsao.jpg

this is a pretty good example of SSAO and HBAO being rendered

if you put a stack of balls on top of each other, the balls that are more in the middle will be lit less, because of the balls on top of it

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fe1nYnvmiA

this is the example i go by

ambient occlusion looks better, but isnt accurate

its like crushed blacks and high contrast

yea it looks more dynamic and cooler, but its not realistic

[plain stag]

if theres no AO at all, then all of those balls would be lit with the same intensity

[storm osprey]

and with ambient occlusion on you get shadows where shadows shouldnt be

[plain stag]

that depends how accurate a dev implements AO

[storm osprey]

i think by definition AO isnt accurate though

[plain stag]

and how many samples there are

SSAO isnt accurate

because its screen space

but there are many other implementations

hbao is the most popular as it looks good enough while not being expensive

[storm osprey]

i dont use SSAO either, im not arguing for a tech

[plain stag]

youve got voxel based AO too

[storm osprey]

all ive said is i dont like AO because its not accurate

[plain stag]

hdao, being an older implemenation

and possibly the most accurate and most expensive RTAO

which is ray traced AO

SSAO was first made for crysis and was made in cryengine 2

back in 2006

its hard to convey a 3D world on a 2D screen as it is

so devs use these tricks to make it behave more as it should in the real world

and it highly depends of the game, older games will have worse AO implementations, even if they use the same technique, but they dont use the same amount of samples to make a more accurate representation

something like gta 5 will have worse AO than rdr 2, as gpus are more powerful today than back when gta 5 was in development, so they can use more samples to more accurately represent how objects interact with each other and with light

https://i.imgur.com/3UXO6OJ.png

GTAO vs no AO

the ground just behind the tire shouldnt be visible

as its mostly blocked by the tire itself and the crates

without AO the ground is evenly lit like there is a light source there, which looks quite bad

[storm osprey]

the problem is that if there was a light source going to that spot, it would still get blocked out from AO just because of proximity

[plain stag]

if there was a light source there, then it wouldnt have that shadow

but theres no light source there

[storm osprey]

AO doesnt know theres no light source there though..

[plain stag]

more advanced techniques do

[storm osprey]

like ray tracing which solves all these lighting problems in the first place?

[plain stag]

https://i.imgur.com/bpHscVH.png

theres a more direct light source in there

and the effect of AO is significantly less than in the previous picture

its darker, but not pitch black

so its not only RTAO

[storm osprey]

and how often is this good example of AO implemented?

[plain stag]

but newer techniques like VXAO or GTAO are more advanced than super old SSAO and HDAO

in AAA games, pretty often

heck even HBAO+ looks pretty good

which is the most popular

[storm osprey]

ill have to test this, but last time i did some 3-5 years ago it was bad

[plain stag]

an upgraded version of HBAO

[storm osprey]

i hate that you can put a character near a wall and suddenly theres a shadow around the character, even if theres clearly a light source directly to the wall

[plain stag]

its not shadowing around the character, and it shouldnt just universally put a shadow

but depending where the light is coming from, parts of the wall will and should be darker than other parts

[storm osprey]

ehh last time i looked this up AO was pretty much proximity based

[plain stag]

https://i.imgur.com/FPR3Svd.png

this is HBAO, the older version

[storm osprey]

yea that looks like shit

err, correction, doesnt look accurate

[plain stag]

well the light source is directly above the dragon

so inside his mouth should be darker

and the part of the body thats blocked by the light source

[storm osprey]

of course its going to be right in some parts, and not in others

[plain stag]

but thats from 2008

its when pretty much AO was becoming a thing

AO was nonexistent before 2007 when crysis launched

but now since unreal supports more advanced AO implementations like RTAO, and gpus that can do ray tracing, we'll be seeing more and more games using RTAO in the future

rise of the tomb raider uses voxel based AO, which put next to hbao looks a lot better

https://developer.nvidia.com/sites/default/files/akamai/gameworks/blog/vxao/rotrhbao.jpg

https://developer.nvidia.com/sites/default/files/akamai/gameworks/blog/vxao/rotrhbaovxao.jpg

hbao there is okay, but its as if there are artificial light probes in the hut itself, rather than just being lit from the sun

[arctic crag]

I’ve seen something I doubt that it’s fake

[plain stag]

if there was no AO, the whole hut would have been lit like it is at the front door

[arctic crag]

Rtx 3080 laptop vs rtx 3080 desktop

[plain stag]

they are two different gpus

[arctic crag]

Also the laptop is 130w

[arctic crag]

I know

[plain stag]

desktop version is a GA102, while laptop version is a GA104

[arctic crag]

According to hardware unboxed difference between the 160w laptop and desktop should be around 50-60%

Can I dm anyone to post a image here

[plain stag]

you can upload the image to imgur and post a link

[arctic crag]

I will just dm you

Ok?

[plain stag]

i cant post pictures either

all pics that i posted i uploaded them to imgur and then i just posted a link

[arctic crag]

No I just want to show it to ya

[plain stag]

sure

btw the 3080 mobile is pretty much exactly like a 3070ti desktop

same shader, tmus and rop count

the difference in them being the frequency and ofc the power usage

[arctic crag]

Gaming laptops is now way better

Than how they used to be

[plain stag]

well yea, parts became more efficient

[arctic crag]

Even the cooling

Lenovo legion 5 for example

[plain stag]

but i would still not get a gaming laptop unless i moved a lot

[arctic crag]

Yes

The point of laptops is mobility

[plain stag]

and in the normal times, high end laptops arent a bargain

like at all

but we dont currently live in normal times

[arctic crag]

Yeah who would buy a 2500$ 3080 laptop while you can build one with 1500$

If we’re talking in msrp prices ofc

[plain stag]

i mean i guess you would have to consider a monitor and keyboard for that pc price

but still, you can get pretty decent 1440p high refresh rate monitors for like 300-350e

[arctic crag]

Yeah

[plain stag]

and a mechanical keyboard for a 100

[arctic crag]

I personally wouldn’t pay more than 70$ on a keyboard

[plain stag]

me sitting with a full logitech setup that was 400e be like

[light wave]

Some keyboards are worth the extra cash.

[arctic crag]

Lmao

[arctic crag]

I mean yeah but a 70$ keyboard should be enough

[plain stag]

G903, powerplay, G910, Pro X headset

[light wave]

Same, but Razer.

[arctic crag]

At least for me

[plain stag]

you do the math...

hello Wildeeeeee

[light wave]

Greetings.

[arctic crag]

Is that a full wireless setup?

[plain stag]

Hi TheWarOwl greets you

keyboard and headset arent wireless

dont need a wireless keyboard tbh

[arctic crag]

But you need a wireless headset

[light wave]

I finally gave my pc a 2042 color scheme haha

[plain stag]

but i plan on trying the G733 headset

i had a G933 before

and a G633

[arctic crag]

That’s great

[plain stag]

pic? 😄

[quaint sleet]

gaming headsets are shoddy

[light wave]

One sec then

[arctic crag]

I perfer investing in headphones more than headset

[plain stag]

i spent like good 600e on logitech gear

hm, okay, not that much

cuz i sold G633 and bought G933

i also sold G933 and bought pro x

i didnt sell my g502 and g402 mice

[arctic crag]

You can get a good quality studio headphones and mic separately and it will be better than a gaming headset

[plain stag]

yeah, i know, but i dont really care that much about a good mic

the mic on the pro x is more than good enough for teamspeak and such

[arctic crag]

Also sound

[plain stag]

sound is also really good with pro x

its not like audiotechnica level

but its pretty good for a gaming headset

[arctic crag]

I was going to say that

[plain stag]

music sounds good

games sound good

[quaint sleet]

but it can be better

rgb cables also a waste imo

looks cool tho

[plain stag]

im still hesitant about switching to G733 cuz they use a 40mm driver, instead of 50mm in the pro x

damn, looking nice

[arctic crag]

Nice

[light wave]

That's the whole point

[plain stag]

also you know whats a shame

[quaint sleet]

might wanna tidy up those fan cables then

[plain stag]

me buying arctic liquid freezer II 360, 2 weeks before they announced an RGB version of the same cooler

[quaint sleet]

one looks like its gonna get the clip

[arctic crag]

Honestly Corsair fans can be good looking with anything

[light wave]

The one near the rad?

[quaint sleet]

i dont like my pc too bright it gives me headaches

[quaint sleet]

yeah top of the mb

[arctic crag]

I bet Corsair gets 50% of their sells from just rgb fans lol

[plain stag]

looks like a fan cable

or pump header

[light wave]

It is, repasted last week and didn't bother to tighten it.

I'm still hellbent on moving it into a ROG Helios case

And making it almost full ROG themed

[arctic crag]

You will need a strix gpu

[light wave]

When 3090 prices drop

[quaint sleet]

I prefered to debrand my case
no shiny logos except for evga gpu

[arctic crag]

ROG is solid

[plain stag]

right now im running a purple color scheme in my case

[light wave]

Ran blue/purple before.

[arctic crag]

I turned off all the rgb I have

Because light gives me a headache

[plain stag]

i would share but i cant post pics

XD

[light wave]

Eh, if it gets too bright, I can just dim it.