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prime jasper
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Yes

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If the risk of failure is so high, stop blowing so much cash on games

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it's simple

storm osprey
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ironically, as long as you have an ounce of self control, you can play a ton of (free) games, with free content going forward as long as you dont pay

prime jasper
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Okay that doesn't matter

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has nothing to do with the topic

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This is about AAA game prices

storm osprey
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you literally just said they are "producing products that ignore financial realities and then tries to rectify its broken business model on the backs of the customers."

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my response is directly in line to that..

prime jasper
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Yeah AAA publishers are

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F2P is different

storm osprey
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no...

arctic crag
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You guys are like Xbox and Sony or Samsung and Apple lol

storm osprey
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does apex and warzone just not exist all of a sudden?

prime jasper
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Yeah they do, but they are highly monetized to recuperate costs

storm osprey
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probably the 2 go to "greedy pubs"

storm osprey
arctic crag
prime jasper
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So why should a $60 dollar game that you said should really be $70 have the same amount of MTX as free games

red ingot
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hello frens

storm osprey
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yagman!

molten coral
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Because they can earn extra cash?

red ingot
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i am back from the dead

storm osprey
prime jasper
prime jasper
red ingot
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what have i missed

prime jasper
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Little hypocritical

storm osprey
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not at all if you have reading comprehension and critical thinking

molten coral
prime jasper
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It's logical from a corporate investors perspective sure

storm osprey
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we are just consumers, we individually decide what is worth our money and what is not

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this is all just logical shit dude, idk why you are so confused about it

prime jasper
storm osprey
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seriously... is this hard for you to understand?

red ingot
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it might be, considering DLC was a banned term in BF once upon a time

prime jasper
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If I am already paying $60 dollars why should they add tons of paid content to make up for stuff I already paid for

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simple answer is reducing budget

red ingot
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good ol beta days when the chat filter blocked DLC & White Man

molten coral
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I'm kinda hoping they bring back premium passes etc but I doubt that will ever happen again.

storm osprey
storm osprey
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now if you go around thinking 1 map in 2010 is the same as 1 map in 2021 then you are just dumb

prime jasper
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Okay how is that the fault of the consumer

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Hello

storm osprey
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youre at fault as a consumer if you think things are 1:1 at a face value like that and use that scenario to claim companies are greedy when its really you

prime jasper
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maybe if they didn't blow billions of dollars on "realistic" graphics they could actually make an artistic game for a lot cheaper with a lot smaller margin of failure

storm osprey
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realistic graphics in bf franchise is a selling point for me

prime jasper
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Okay cool

storm osprey
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i assume thats a lot of people as well

prime jasper
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doesn't matter

storm osprey
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so to drop that would be stupid

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now if there was another game to come out with lesser graphics and a cheaper price thats cool

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doesnt mean its gonna work (think ww3)

prime jasper
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"best graphics = best game"

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when in reality all it does is look pretty and greatly inflate budgets

storm osprey
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sadly good graphics is a huge point to a lot of people, especially casuals

prime jasper
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Look at nintendo

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None of their games look that great from a graphics standpoint

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yet casuals love them

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and their budgets are a lot smaller

storm osprey
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nintendo is hardly an example of anything other than what nintendo can do

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they are clearly an outlier

prime jasper
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What about all the indie games

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with small budgets

storm osprey
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i mean ffs, they hardly have sales on even games 5 years old and no one says anything

prime jasper
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and simplistic graphics

storm osprey
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how many casuals are playing indies?

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i think you forgot your point...

red ingot
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so who's hyped af for 2042

storm osprey
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lol yagman comes back from like a year absence and im stuck talking to a wall

prime jasper
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even among us

storm osprey
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congrats, you managed to list the handful of indies that broke into the mainstream

prime jasper
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theres a lot more than that

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do you really expect me to list every indie game with a big audience or what

storm osprey
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and i say mainstream lightly, because i cant ask random people on the streets if they know terraria and expect a lot of people to know it

storm osprey
red ingot
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id honestly only consider Minecraft mainstream tbh

storm osprey
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^

red ingot
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the others.. popular, yes, but not necessarily mainstream

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to me, mainstream means my parents who are technologically inept as fuck have heard of it

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/non gamers

storm osprey
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yea

red ingot
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non gamers probably a better term to use

prime jasper
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gamer is such a cringe word holy fuck

red ingot
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like everyone knows what call of duty is, battlefield, etc. those are mainstream

prime jasper
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I wish I was a non gamer

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end me

red ingot
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ok bye

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u can leave this server at any time

storm osprey
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no jokes about suicide

prime jasper
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That wasn't a joke about suicide

storm osprey
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what is your interpretation of "end me"?

prime jasper
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To die

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in anyway

red ingot
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-.-

prime jasper
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actually it would be more like murder

red ingot
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well

prime jasper
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since I said "end me"

red ingot
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now we're way off topic

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sooo

prime jasper
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I hate technology

toxic zealot
red ingot
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im actually so hyped ngl

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i just really hope they bring back community servers :/

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they do that they can have all my monies

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problem with every game is eventually gets overrun with hackers.. but at least community servers - community can police itself

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plus - when official servers get taken down - community can still run their own at least

toxic zealot
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lmao

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if they dont

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im not even buying i t

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thats why i wait for people to test it out

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if this game doesnt keep good things from bf4

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it cant beat bf4

red ingot
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yeah

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:/

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i am hyped that they're bringing back AI tho

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gud times in BF2

toxic zealot
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i dont think they will

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wasnt ai in bf2 kinda trash tho

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dont remember

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or was it bf vietnam

red ingot
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it was pretty good

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Vietnam I didn't play too much so I can't remember

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BF2 was kind of my go-to

plucky token
sacred vortex
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The only reason I’m getting Xbox series X instead of series S is the disc reader as that’s how I’ll play bf1

plain stag
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its insane how lazy they are that they literally reuse an intel bracket and an intel cooler for a ryzen cpu xD

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i expected it to be bolted to the chassis like the G5, kinda disappointed it wasnt xD

plucky token
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Dell in a Nutshell

plain stag
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a couple of years ago a friend of mine bought an alienware system

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he couldnt be bothered to make a system so he went the lazy route

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a few months later he bought a second 1080ti to run sli in that dell system, he couldnt even figure out how to get sli to work lol

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so his second gpu was just sitting in his drawer for months

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even tho i advised him not to buy a second 1080ti cuz sli was useless, i told him to buy an AC for his room cuz whenever it was summer, he had a fan blowing on him and you can guess how thats like to listen throughout the summer on teamspeak

toxic zealot
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could as well spend that on good water cooled system

terse stirrup
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One message removed from a suspended account.

opaque saddle
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You sure you didn't post it to the right discord server ThinkHmm

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@proud thorn

prime jasper
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can a nvidia GTX 1640 run bf2042

supple bane
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!!specs

silent oasisBOT
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Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

midnight crypt
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pretty sure a 1640 aint a thing

prime jasper
midnight crypt
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but it probably would run it

supple bane
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yeah my guess is its a no

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!!bfvspecs

silent oasisBOT
supple bane
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its not much above the bfv minimum specs

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never mind bf2042

prime jasper
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im not an expert in gaming stuff but is a GTX 1650 worse than a GTX 1080

midnight crypt
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yes

prime jasper
arctic crag
near rune
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bruh

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why wouldnt it be

plucky token
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the lower the better is a typical mindset Kapp2

latent light
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Upcoming i9-12900K around 25% faster than Ryzen 9 5950X in single-thread score

slim depot
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WHO IS GHOST PINGING ME ACROSS CHANNELS

supple bane
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the 5950x released at the same time as 10th gen

plucky token
plain stag
turbid verge
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cinebench normally is good to understand how good is for rendering

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not really to test if its good for games or data processing

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so even if said cpu is good for rendering doesnt mean it will be as good for gaming

plain stag
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but honestly, it would be a big L for intel if its not faster than 5950x or its a marginal increase

turbid verge
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depends the price

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if its as faster but cheaper

plain stag
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either way, its good to see competition again

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and seeing them one upping each other each year

turbid verge
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indeed

digital hill
toxic zealot
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wait

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how tf does a game fry a gpu

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its not like new world can bypass fucking thermal limiter

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unless its actual malware

supple bane
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it wouldnt be a thermal thing

digital hill
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actually it kills it by having insane FPS spikes for extended periods of time causing GPU temperatures to get out of hand and then the hardware problems begin

supple bane
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hmmmm

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but like laaven said the cards should thermal throttle external of what "type" of load its experiencing

molten coral
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Yeah the main menu is uncapped which is causing the issue for a lot of people.

storm osprey
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i mean.. i play games uncapped and my gpu just throttles where it needs to, why is this a special case?

molten coral
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dunno I don't work for amazon lol

latent light
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Reason for RTX GPUs bricking: Unlocked framerate, sudden 100% utilization, chip cracks due to instant thermal expansion and dies

digital hill
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Jesus

storm osprey
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theory, amazon is bricking 3090s and getting a huge shipment of 3090s soon

digital hill
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I wonder if you can sue amazon for that

latent light
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Nah

digital hill
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I mean if a game destroys your card I think suing amazon is pretty reasonable

turbid verge
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@digital hill yeh bet they have an army of layers bigger then ur town police force

latent light
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The main menu of that Amazon game isn't framelocked so frames were shooting through the roof. Ampere, especially the GA102 die has really high transients. Capacitors/Resistors started screaming from that heavy load and 💥

turbid verge
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Lemme clarify some things

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Seems like alot of missinformation here

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One has nothing to do with amazon

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Its due to the card

latent light
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Ik

turbid verge
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One specific model only which is the EVGA 3090's

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All other cards that are RTX and/or 3090's do not have this issue

latent light
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EVGA does it again

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Remember the EVGA GTX 1000 series...

turbid verge
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Second this can be avoided by turning on the vsync in the menu which will lock fps to ur monitor refresh rate

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Third this only happened to people running the game on 4K

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And Amazon can't fix this. Its a manufacturer problem, so far all reports are from with the specific EVGA 3090. The EVGA 3080ti, 3089, 3070ti etc do not have this issue

toxic zealot
digital hill
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Oof though all the cards under evga are still under warranty and user cannot be at fault here then meaning they can get there card back.

toxic zealot
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i guess i will stick to msi and gigabyte

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if gpu dies under any load

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it wasnt properly tested

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and the components inside are inferior to normal models

vast valley
turbid verge
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@vast valley They are known to have one of the best warranties for computer parts

toxic zealot
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this is not the first time ftw3 died

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there are reports way before

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of this card dying

vast valley
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That's good. Even with the chip shortage, hopefully they're able to replace quickly.

lean cipher
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why do i get 20 fps lower on some maps in bf5

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20-30 fps lower

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bf5 is so poorly optimized i think

supple bane
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more to do with size

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the smaller the map the worse the fps will be basically

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because there are more explosions, gunshots, smokes, and of course players packed into an area

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and thats what causes fps drops

toxic zealot
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depends

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idk how frostbite handles objects in multiplayer

supple bane
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well i can tell you for a fact op underground is the worst performing map

lean cipher
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a map like wake island is best performing

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its so big

supple bane
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and hamada is one of the best

toxic zealot
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which means

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it skips rendering objects that arent visible/not nearby

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so yea

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close quarters 2142 map = tanking fps

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idk if they would allow 128 players in metro like map tho

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same for every other bf

lean cipher
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soloman islands has low fps

supple bane
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i worry that bf2042 will be incredibly cpu intensive

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like nothing anyone has seen before

toxic zealot
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if they intend adding fps intensive features

supple bane
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because i notice on op underground my cpu usage is almost hitting 100% with gpu down in the 50s

toxic zealot
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it might be intensive server side

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which would be bad

plain stag
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theres more people in underground

supple bane
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i also know that in an empty server my gpu usage will be 95% and cpu like 70%. in a full multiplayer match my gpu will be 60% and cpu bouncing off 100

plain stag
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the more people are closer the more cpu intensive it is

supple bane
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which shows that more players = more cpu load

toxic zealot
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whats your cpu

supple bane
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ryzen 5 2600

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but that doesnt matter

toxic zealot
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it does

supple bane
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no

toxic zealot
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yes

plain stag
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it matters

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i had 6600k and my cpu was always at 100%

toxic zealot
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i mean 2600 is decent cpu

supple bane
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if im saying that i get lower cpu usage in an empty match and a higher cpu usage in a full match

plain stag
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while people with 6700k had lower cpu usage

toxic zealot
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but bf5 can prob eat up to 8 core cpu

plain stag
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meaning my 6600k was a bottleneck

supple bane
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as i said

plain stag
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well yes, thats a given

supple bane
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what cpu i have doesnt matter for that comparison

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thats what i meant

toxic zealot
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on top of that bf5 has more visual effects and shit than bf4 etc

plain stag
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and now with 128 players, a 6 core will be a recommendation most likely

next ether
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the new Nintendo switch is disappointing

supple bane
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im guessing 8

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6 minimum

toxic zealot
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also bf5 seems to not be so well optimized

plain stag
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nah, wont be that high

supple bane
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!!bfvspecs

silent oasisBOT
plain stag
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8 core cpus are not that common

toxic zealot
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i heard literally assigments in bf5 can give stuttrs lmao

supple bane
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we'll see

plain stag
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and devs always aim to have their game playable for majority of systems

supple bane
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i really think this whole 128 players will cause havoc on cpus

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gpu load probably wont be much higher

toxic zealot
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that could handle even more players

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without issues

plain stag
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yeh, planetside 2

toxic zealot
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its all about optimization

supple bane
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this is true

lean cipher
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i have a 5600x 3060 ti

toxic zealot
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planetside 2 was stupid intensive on gpu

plain stag
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i got a 5600x as well

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waiting for the gpu

toxic zealot
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but player count didnt matter much

heady pawn
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I think 128 player matches will probably be more of a problem on the wifi

supple bane
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no

lean cipher
toxic zealot
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no

supple bane
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gaming isnt speed intensive

heady pawn
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both

supple bane
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ping matters but not speed

toxic zealot
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its up to server to resolve 128 players

plain stag
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packet loss is the big thing

toxic zealot
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you just send data to server and receive

plain stag
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gaming through wifi is unreliable

supple bane
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the most ive seen a game consume is 200 kbps

plain stag
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regardless of the game youre playing

lean cipher
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i game through wifi

plain stag
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ouff

lean cipher
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i dont have ethernet cable

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well i do

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but it isnt long enough

supple bane
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my router is on my desk so, 5 foot ethernet cable has me sorted

lean cipher
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i am gonna use powerline ethernet soon

plain stag
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do yourself a big favor and buy a longer lan cable 😄

heady pawn
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I don't use an Ethernet cable and I still have no lag

lean cipher
plain stag
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its about sending/receiving packets

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each game does it differently

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but bf in general uses the most bandwidth

supple bane
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bfv was this

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the most ive ever seen a game consume

plain stag
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the more packets the game sends/receives the higher chance to encounter packet loss through wifi

supple bane
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erm, kinda.

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more packets does mean that more packets will be lost

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but it doesnt mean a higher chance

plain stag
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yes, thats what i mean

supple bane
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yeah, bad phrasing 😛

plain stag
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yea xd

toxic zealot
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the solution: SEND MORE PACKETS

plain stag
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the solution, GAME THROUGH ETHERNET

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xd

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especially if you got other people in the house

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and they all start using wifi

heady pawn
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are gpus expensive because there's a chip shortage or were they always like that?

plain stag
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a lot of things made gpus expensive

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it was basically the perfect storm

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crypto mining, supply not meeting demand, other things being higher on priority list when it comes to silicon production

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everything culminated at the same time during 2020

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they are producing gpus like never before, i think 40% more than last year

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but its still not enough to keep up with demand

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you only got a couple of fabs in the entire world that makes chips

supple bane
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ahhhhh back in the day, you could get a solid midrange card for 300 bucks

toxic zealot
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msrp midrange is now 200$

plain stag
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i woudlnt call it a shortage now as they are producing more than ever before

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its just that demand is still higher than supply

toxic zealot
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or it was at least

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lol

heady pawn
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So now's not the best time to buy one?

toxic zealot
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no

plain stag
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and a couple of months ago, gpus werent at the top of the priority list when it came to chip manufacturing

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the automotive industry was hit really hard

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gpu prices are going down in some parts of the world

prime jasper
plain stag
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damn

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how much are they

prime jasper
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well I want the new AMD Ryzen 9500x its like $850

plain stag
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oh 5900x

opaque saddle
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40% more expensive than US (our currency is "cheaper"), with extra 10% tax

supple bane
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i want the 9500x too Noice

prime jasper
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$850 is not cheap

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☹️

plain stag
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its 850 AUD im assuming

prime jasper
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yes

opaque saddle
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hang on

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where did you get 850 from? it was on sale for 629.25 AUD 2 weeks ago

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from pccasegear

prime jasper
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0_o

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LOOKING NOW

plain stag
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XD

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better hope its not sold out already

prime jasper
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nah its still the same price

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its never dropped

plain stag
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damn

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unlucky mate

prime jasper
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bruh

plain stag
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i bought a 5600x

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for 330 euros

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now waiting for the gpu

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i missed out on the 3070ti yesterday

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that was 850 euros

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hoping they restock it soon

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every other 3070ti is a 1000e

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3070's are the same price and sometimes even more expensive than 70ti's

midnight crypt
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it isnt worth 850

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so you dodged a bullet

plain stag
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thats basically msrp in serbia

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every single card that ever came out is like at least 150 euros more than anywhere else in europe

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when the prices stabilize, i dont expect any 3070ti to be lower than 800 euros

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we have stock of 3070's 70ti's 3080's in a bunch of stores

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cheapest 3070 is 950e from gainward

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the rest are 1000e and up

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so a 3070ti being 850 was a sale pretty much

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msrp for 1070 founders was 379$, and i paid that same founders 600 euros here

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and that was like 2 months after launch

plucky token
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plucky token
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supple bane
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does he say why it happens ?

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/do they know yet ?

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confirmed

plucky token
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it's out for 18 seconds

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iam not that far into the video yet

supple bane
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oh

toxic zealot
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what happens is

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specfic evga gpu is borked

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it cant handle running at 100%

supple bane
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well supposedly its not just evga cards ThinkHmm

plucky token
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mine runs at 100% without issues

toxic zealot
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then they are borked too

supple bane
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and ive heard about 50 different reasons now

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so i think no one knows for real

toxic zealot
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no d3d apps arent malware

plucky token
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whatever happens, it's bad

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even a 2080super died

toxic zealot
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like the game cant

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just

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up your voltage

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or something

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lol

supple bane
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voltage is limited by bios so it cant do that

toxic zealot
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gpus are desgined to handle 100% load all the time on stock settings

supple bane
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if it was something about 100% load this would have been happening long before now

toxic zealot
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having 4000fps in menu at best

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can make capciator generate hearable sound

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which happens for my gpu

plucky token
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my old 3080 died too in such a way

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coilwhine, dead

supple bane
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youve had 2 3080s?

toxic zealot
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coilwhine doesnt damage gpu

supple bane
plucky token
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ye

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RMA is a thing

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took 3 days

supple bane
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oh RMA

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i thought you just brought a new one

plucky token
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heck no

toxic zealot
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or those may be also false reports

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i bet someone has 10 3080s

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to test it

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from the benchmarking guys

dry pike
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New worlds alpha/beta causing 3090 cards to break. Interesting.

plucky token
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yep

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i hope Lost Ark won't kill it monakEXTREME

toxic zealot
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gpus and software behind it is very idiot proof

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so i wonder whats up there

dry pike
toxic zealot
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never heard of ark killing anything

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isnt ark in unreal engine anyway

plucky token
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true

dry pike
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BF has had the too high FPS in the menu issue as well

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The menu doesn't need to run at max FPS or having backgrounds rendered using the in-game engine.

toxic zealot
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well ye

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for some reason launchers are integrated with the game

dry pike
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I need light and fast menus with low latencies.

plucky token
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jay said mentioned it. if you launch NewWorld, the gpu usage skyrockets to max, core clock and vram usage for a menu with insane FPS in the thousands. Doom Eternal tho has thousands of fps but like 0% gpu usage

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capacitors could fail and thats what he suggests

toxic zealot
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yea

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because rendering hud

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can be done with few transistors

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hmmm

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but why capciators didnt fail before

plucky token
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i know one thing. i won't touch this game LUL

toxic zealot
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im pretty sure witcher 3 did the same thing

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max out gpu and stupid fps

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in menu

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btw

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jayz is not a good person to listen to about low level hardware

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thats not his field

dry pike
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My computer at 100% don't even draw enough power to make my PSU fan start up 😄

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So my 3080ti is safe I hope.

toxic zealot
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this guy would know

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if you send him bricked gpu

plucky token
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gamersnexus as well

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he just calls vince aka kingpin from evga LUL

toxic zealot
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ye

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he will prob release video about it

plucky token
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jayz said at the end, he will brick one, or try's to

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probably get's steve involved

toxic zealot
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i read on yt comments

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that even someone 1060 got bricked

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so like wtf

fallen harbor
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question

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my cousin has a ddr4 8gb 2400mhz ballistix sport white module

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and wants to have 8 more to reach 16gb

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it is an old module

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but he doesnt want to spend a lot of money and just wants 16 and, if possible, dual channel

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and since this product isnt built anymore, anybody knows what newer ram module is compatible with this one to support dual channel with?

supple bane
#

in theory any ddr4 ram is compatible

fallen harbor
#

afaik not all brands will cooperate to do dual channel

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might be wrong, idk

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idk much about dual channel

supple bane
#

but, results vary wildly. some will work as if they are the same, some wont even post

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its basically luck of the draw i think

fallen harbor
#

isnt this known though

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isnt there a list of approximate results

supple bane
#

im not sure

fallen harbor
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like mixing hyperx with ballistix

balmy fractal
#

i get some weird error message from origin when i shut down my pc, can anyone help?

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it only happens when i play two origin games in one session

fallen harbor
#

whats the error message

prime jasper
#

yeah we can't really tell anything with that description

dry pike
#

Troubleshooting and describing technical issues should be subjects in school.

upbeat nimbus
#

can someone help me with my bf1, i got it thru amazon prime and it is stuck on the startup loading, i can only see a black loading screen. i can send u a recording,

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ive repaired my game, disabled my windows defender, and i did perform a clean boot

dry pike
latent sandal
#

Hey

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I wanted to play BF1 and im so lucky i got it free

#

But can i play BF1 with this setup?
Im using a laptop
8GB Ram
i5 7700
AMD Radeon M5 330 2GB

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All low settings and small maps atleast?

lime sphinx
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you should get maybe a RAM increase just so you can dedicate some more VRAM

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also

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try this

latent sandal
#

Im not sure this site works correct but thanks

dry pike
latent sandal
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Thanks

storm osprey
#

or you can just try it since its free?

latent sandal
#

Yeah

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Ill do it probably

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it doesnt look bad

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Ill try it thanks yall

atomic jackal
#

man im really impatient about my pc arriving

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i feel like a kid again from excitement

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after using potato pc for 8 years

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getting a 3060 ti pc feels super exciting

novel creek
#

hey, have a black screen issue for BF1

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apparently it's quite common, however none of the fixes I tried have worked thus far

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fixes include repairing the game, switching DoF, Lighting Effects, Colorblind mode

toxic zealot
lapis narwhal
#

hey i have a problem when loading battlefield 5

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i load it and it shuts down

quick locust
#

!!support

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marsh gull
#

guys what cpu would you recommend for pairing with a 3060 ti? (looking for budget but still pretty powerful)

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this is my list

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I was hoping if you guys could tell me if it's a good choice: i've already got 1tb of nvme ssd and 32g of ram (the ram in the list is for my old computer)

dry pike
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For gaming a 5800x or the Intel equivalent would be my choice to pair with a 3060ti.

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Some would say 5600x.

marsh gull
#

ok

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found a ryzen 5 5600x for almost 300 usd

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that's a bit too expensive?

marsh gull
plucky token
#

yep

marsh gull
lusty star
#

So, im most probably gonna get a laptop
130W 3060
105/130W 3070
5800H or 5900HX as CPU
hows the performance gonna be on these specs? weakest and strongest combination
i.e. 3060+5800H and 130W 3070+5900HX

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like a rough estimate

storm osprey
#

unless you are doing production work on this you dont need a 5800

south token
#

I'm new to the PC and I was playing ps4, then I downloaded and played battlefield4. I connected the controller to the PC, but the settings are different. Do you know how to change the settings? I want to play on the controller

toxic zealot
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go into game settings?

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lmao

stray needle
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Does 4K give you an edge over 1440p in this game. Let say as sniper ?

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Or is it negated by hardware demands

toxic zealot
#

or less

supple bane
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Lets see

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!!specs

silent oasisBOT
#

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

supple bane
#

Dang it

proud trellis
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lol

stray needle
#

Anything below 1080 is just mediocre

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720p feels strange. I have a native one

storm osprey
storm osprey
toxic zealot
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but 300 fps is better

storm osprey
#

ehh, i doubt theres many scenarios where the pixel clarity will help in csgo

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at least when i think of the main maps i used to play on, the furthest sight line was a football field at most

toxic zealot
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idk where 4k helps in bf tho

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if something is pixelated in 1080p in bf its prob out of your reach anyway

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unless you use long range rockets

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snipers have zoom ofc

storm osprey
#

i mean, spotting someone while running around at 4k would be easier than 1080p for sure

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i play at 1440p and i scan horizons before scoping in when i snipe

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granted i think scanning before scoping is just overall better for situational awareness and acquiring targets faster, hence how 4k will be better for that

solar kestrel
#

cz_distortedcry when will the shortage end

zealous minnow
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bought a 970 for $200, feeling good

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it was the only thing in stock, and now i get to complete my first pc

supple bane
#

you brought it NEW for that price?

supple bane
#

it will

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it will run anything without issues yes

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its still a very powerful card

prime jasper
#

hey so uhhh while we are asking these type of questions then im gonna ask if my setup is good too
my processor is an AMD Ryzen 7 2700-eight core processor
and a graphics card which is the uhh Radeon RX 570 series
im not a specialist with these things so i cant really tell if this would be a good setup for the game or not

supple bane
#

it should run it

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how well? no one knows

prime jasper
#

i dont know im running BFH and BF4 on max graphics pretty goddamn well

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ignoring the fact that it sounds like a jet engine

supple bane
#

yeah they are very old lol

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a potato could run bf4 on max graphics now

prime jasper
#

huh, you dont say

supple bane
#

id say you should expect 60 fps on 1080p

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but thats just a guess, i cant say

prime jasper
#

that would be good enough for me

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honestly

slender turtle
#

Do yall think that there will be a bunch of servers that would be a repeat of the servers in bf 4 with stupid rules?

supple bane
#

thats because there are no/very little offical dice servers on bf4

slender turtle
#

That is true

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But for the custom ones such as portal

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Do you think this may happen?

supple bane
#

well the whole point of portal is it will have dumb rules lmao

slender turtle
#

True

prime jasper
#

hey while im still at this topic do you recommend that i should upgrade any of these or i should be fine in your opinion

storm osprey
#

at the very least i think portal will make it to where people can create servers that DONT let you pick a shotgun that people like

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so you wont get randomly kicked for bs

slender turtle
#

What are you upgrading I was not a part of this conversation before this?

supple bane
#

it depends on what games you are playing and what you expect out of them

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you could maybe go for a gpu upgrade, but at the same time the 570 should hold up for a little longer at least until the gpu shortage has blown over

slender turtle
#

Ok

prime jasper
#

thanks man

wintry prairie
storm osprey
#

the more pixels the more accurate the image, especially for farther away targets

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its less likely that a head peaking over a hill will blend into the image if there are more pixels to accurately represent the player

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like, with larger pixels, you are more likely to have 1 pixel represent a head and blur into the rest of the image

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timestamped

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higher resolution is really handy for BR's and large game modes like bfv if you are sniping

arctic crag
#

I think 1440p is the sweet spot

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4K will really make kids with your gpu

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1080p doesn’t look good anymore

storm osprey
#

agreed, 27" 1440p is here its at if you can afford it

opal cliff
#

I know if def going to have to upgrade for this game but how do you guys think i5 7500 gtx 1070 8vram 16gb ram would do,

storm osprey
#

for 1080p? yea?

opal cliff
#

Yeah only 1080p

storm osprey
#

id say at least 60fps medium settings

opal cliff
#

Oh okay. I’ll take that lol until I eventually upgrade

storm osprey
#

what do you get in bfv?

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maybe knock of 15% of your fps to get a ballpark idea

opal cliff
#

Never played bfv so not to sure TBH

storm osprey
#

ahh

opal cliff
#

Bf1 for me runs pretty well for the most part

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I guess take 30% off that lol

storm osprey
#

yea i just looked online trying to find benchmarks

opal cliff
#

For a ballpark

storm osprey
#

unfortunately i think 2042 is going to be pretty cpu intensive so i wonder if a 4c4t cpu will struggle

opal cliff
#

Yeah that’s my worry with my cpu lol

storm osprey
#

thankfully cpus are in stock and you have a good 1080p gpu

opal cliff
#

That’s I figured I would need to upgrade before even trying to play it

storm osprey
#

well if you want help with components you can ask here

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youd only need a cpu and mb really

#

10400/11400 for budget, 5600x for bang for buck

arctic crag
#

If you’re a gamer only go with intel

storm osprey
#

? what

finite meadow
#

yep

opal cliff
#

Honestly was going to upgrade my gpu as well so more was going to upgrade every part

storm osprey
#

amd 5000 series gives the best gaming performance..

opal cliff
#

When gpu prices are normal again

finite meadow
#

till now tons of games are not AMD proof

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always INTEL proof

storm osprey
#

? never heard of this

arctic crag
finite meadow
#

been that way since ages

storm osprey
#

well for ages intel was the gaming performance king

#

that has changed

finite meadow
#

nah

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for games nah

#

for other things yeah

storm osprey
#

for everything really...

prime jasper
#

Yeah AMD is currently king

storm osprey
#

the only time intel wins recently is with big sales that make them better values

arctic crag
storm osprey
#

and this is from someone that bought a 10700k

arctic crag
#

I just recommend intel for the dude up there because it’s cheap lol

storm osprey
#

hence "10400/11400 for budget, 5600x for bang for buck"

arctic crag
#

And equal (maybe a little behind) ryzen 5000

storm osprey
#

with what part?

arctic crag
#

How much is Ryzen 5600x right now?

storm osprey
#

there was just a sale for it a couple of days ago for 270

arctic crag
arctic crag
storm osprey
arctic crag
#

You’re right

#

My bad

storm osprey
#

sale seems to be over, so its 290 now

arctic crag
#

Really good

storm osprey
#

included cooler and cheaper motherboard too

arctic crag
#

But i5 11400f is 100$ cheaper

opal cliff
#

The combo im mostly looking for I think is the 5600x and 3060ti because someone said those go well together

arctic crag
#

But intel mobos are costy compared to amd especially 11th gen mobos

opal cliff
#

Don’t know if that a still true now though

opal cliff
#

I think someone said is great for 1080 high frames

storm osprey
storm osprey
opal cliff
#

I just wish the 3060 was normal price

arctic crag
opal cliff
#

Oh okay

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Or at least by the holidays

arctic crag
storm osprey
#

if you can find a card

opal cliff
#

Oh really

storm osprey
#

granted finding a card in store was usually msrp

arctic crag
#

Micro center got many cards for msrp

opal cliff
#

There is no micro cevter near me lol

storm osprey
#

yea mc is like the holy grail of storefronts to actually get cards

#

sadly i live in the 6th largest city by population and we dont have a mc in our state...

arctic crag
#

I’m not even in the us lol and prices in my country are 2.5x the msrp

storm osprey
#

wack

#

thankfully bestbuy kept msrp for most cards when they did go on sale

arctic crag
#

I think in 2 months everything will 100% go back to normal

storm osprey
#

ehhh, that seems a bit optimistic but lets hope

arctic crag
#

Chinese miners are selling their gpus

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All of them

#

So we will get plenty of gpus soon

storm osprey
#

yea i heard that, im sure it helps, i just dont expect it to solve anything that quickly

arctic crag
#

You know because China banned crypto currencies

storm osprey
#

id give it 6 months till you can walk into any store and buy what you want at msrp without thinking about it

arctic crag
#

I don’t think it will take that long

#

However let’s just hope for the best

opal cliff
#

That would great if by Christmas prices are normal again lol

arctic crag
#

Any news about iPhone 13

coarse nimbus
#

it will be more expensive than the iphone 12 WoahTea

marsh gull
marsh gull
marsh gull
opal cliff
#

Oh okay damn lol

toxic wigeon
#

Yeah i plan on spending 1500 for the desktop without the GPU and then gonna save up for a new GPU to put into it later

#

Cause the GPU will pretty much be as expensive as the damn desktop itself but should be well worth it lmao

neon current
#

A lot of people are just buying pre built computers and the. Reselling them with their old graphics card in it to friends with a slightly reduced price so they get very close to MSRP

toxic wigeon
#

Msrp?

timber bough
#

Retail price

toxic wigeon
#

oh got it

#

So the market changes

neon current
#

Manufactured suggested price

#

Yes it can

toxic wigeon
#

Yeah at this point you might as well buy the desktop WITH the desired card, Which would be way cheaper

neon current
#

But it isn’t always supposed to

toxic wigeon
#

I mean so the market changes more positively

#

Cause scalpers

neon current
#

The only problem with pre built

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Is you can’t always tell the quality of the parts

timber bough
#

^

neon current
#

In terms of who’s making it etc

toxic wigeon
#

True

timber bough
#

I would go with SI that allows you to pick parts

#

Like NZXT

neon current
#

Like if I get a SSD, or HDD, is it a seagate? Or is it a Samsung

toxic wigeon
#

If i may ask, What's the different between dual and triple fan GPU's? Just cooling?

toxic wigeon
#

i mean

neon current
#

Cooling and clock speed sometimes

toxic wigeon
#

haha

neon current
#

Sometimes 3 fan GPUs have higher clocks slightly or are just more suitable for OC

toxic wigeon
#

Ahhh got it

neon current
#

It’s funny because The card I have, it’s almost like those 3 fans just don’t exist

#

Im way self conscious about temps in my case so I overkill fans

toxic wigeon
#

3070's aren't even that much more expensive that the 3060ti wow

#

Yeah i get that

neon current
#

I have a 360mm AIO heat sink. With 1 back exhaust fan, 2 top exhaust fans and then 2 120 fans on the bottom blowing air underneath my card

#

Even tho 30 series cards have a higher threshold for heat

#

Their maximum I think is like 110

opaque saddle
#

It is better to have a triple fans than dual fans GPU

#

Coz you want lower idling temp rather than high idling temp

neon current
#

Yeah my idling is like 21-23 c

#

When I’m gaming it’s like 50 c

toxic zealot
#

3 fans doesnt mean better than 2

neon current
#

If it’s pushed at 99% bench it’s like 70 c

toxic zealot
#

Depends.on gpu dimension

#

fans quality

#

heatsink

opaque saddle
#

Yeah but in general

toxic wigeon
neon current
#

LOL

toxic wigeon
#

"you got a heater?"
"yes"

#

That'd suck during summer though

opaque saddle
#

You can fit in 230mm fan which is better than 100mm fan, if you can customise it

prime jasper
#

what kind of tower do you guys have?

toxic wigeon
#

I've got an old 2012 computer

opaque saddle
#

But in general, triple fans design is better than double

#

I got a mid ATX tower

timber bough
#

Mid ATX Tower as well

opaque saddle
#

Full tower is just too large and too bulky

neon current
#

Im pissed that this time I got a mid tower tbh

timber bough
#

Oh?

neon current
#

I should have got a full

#

The 3090 is a massive card

timber bough
#

Ah, yeah, it is

opaque saddle
#

Can you mount it vertically?

timber bough
#

If the case supports it

neon current
#

Not this one

opaque saddle
#

With pcie extension cable

neon current
#

My problem is I just couldn’t mount my 360 radiator at the top

#

I had to front mount it

toxic wigeon
#

Reckon you're gonna save for a new tower?

neon current
#

Which makes me nervous

#

I could buy a new tower rn but

toxic wigeon
#

It's not entirely a priority?

neon current
#

It’s a hassle to move an entire pc I just built into a new tower

#

If I get heat issues I’ll move it ASAP

toxic wigeon
#

ahhhh

neon current
#

Right now I’m not having heat issues

dry pike
#

I wish I was cold, my computer can heat my office quite quickly 😄

toxic wigeon
#

Fair enough

opaque saddle
#

Mod technology chat

toxic wigeon
#

Haha

dry pike
neon current
#

My boyfriend made me so nervous the entire time we built it

#

“Gee you know I never know anyone that front mounts it”

opaque saddle
#

I have been messing my PC around for 14 years

neon current
#

“Man I don’t really think this will work”

#

Constantly in my ear

opaque saddle
#

I figure it out it is better not to touch it

#

😂

toxic wigeon
#

"Get out of my head"

neon current
#

The worst thing is I seat the CPU in and you know that squeezing sound it makes

#

And he’s standing right over my shoulder

dry pike
#

Top mounting a radiator typically makes your CPU slightly warmer than if it was front mounted and front mounting typically makes your GPU slightly warmer. Overall heat in the case is the same.

neon current
#

“That didn’t sound right”

dry pike
#

what a help

toxic wigeon
#

"i didn't know CPU's squeaked like a mouse"

opaque saddle
#

I have stacked two identical desktop tower on top of each other's

neon current
#

I put my PSU upside down in my case

#

So the fan is not blowing hot air on my gpu

#

It’s just blowing out a bottom vent at the bottom of my case

#

Since the lancool 2 has a ton of air filters in the case

opaque saddle
#

So to save some space

neon current
#

Wait you stacked them

#

Like you put a whole case on top of another

opaque saddle
#

Stack the cases

#

Yeah

#

I don't use both at the same time tho

neon current
#

Ah Okay

#

Makes sense

opaque saddle
#

But what you can do, is to mount your 3090 onto another small case

#

With extension cables and psu

dry pike
opaque saddle
#

Otherwise you may get a new PC case

#

I cannot find as better solution than that

neon current
#

@toxic wigeon here is your new case way

#

The Corsair 1000D

#

You know you can fit 18 fans in this case

opaque saddle
#

I got my PC case for $39

#

RGB case

neon current
#

Thays a hell of a deal for RGB

opaque saddle
#

So I bought two

neon current
#

My case was like 120 bucks I think

opaque saddle
#

And carried it with my scooter

toxic wigeon
#

It's named corsair too

#

So

#

That's even better YeahBoi

neon current
#

Corsair makes amazing cases

opaque saddle
#

Your next goal is to make it invisible

#

Make it hidden inside your desk

neon current
#

But I’ve fallen in love with Lian li recently because their air flow

toxic wigeon
#

Holy hell that's expensive

neon current
#

Oh yeah it’s 549 USD

opaque saddle
#

You can spend heaps of money into getting new cases

neon current
#

Funny thing is, I don’t care about case design

toxic wigeon
#

But as usual, Spending a lot of money often means the objecti n question is of high quality and will last you a long time

opaque saddle
#

Or you can opt for the most cost efficient option

neon current
#

All I care about is space and thermals

opaque saddle
#

Usually be 69-89 AUD

dry pike
#

I use Fractal R6. It's simple, it got dustfilters in bottom, front and top + it got some sound dampening. Pretty much the most important things for me.

neon current
neon current
#

Fractal is very awesome makers

opaque saddle
#

Yours is with the infamous orange carbonic stickers

#

😂

neon current
#

I know their designs are called “boring” but I pick cases on efficiency

#

I don’t buy a case because it looks cool

dry pike
opaque saddle
#

He makes his boring case looks interesting

#

With his iconic sticker

neon current
#

If your case isn’t a Fridge

#

Then it isn’t cool

#

Having a box case is hilarious

opaque saddle
#

Now, show them your PC caseLULW

dry pike
opaque saddle
#

There it is. Isn't that awesome

dry pike
#

I like it at least 🙂

neon current
#

Why does this case look like it has no airflow. I’m sweating

opaque saddle
#

Coming from the side

neon current
#

I demand you take a picture of your ventilation before I get nervous

opaque saddle
#

And the top

toxic wigeon
#

That's actually cool as hell Carbo

neon current
#

Show the top carb

#

I DEMAND to see some sort of mesh

dry pike
#

I just open the front door if I'm gaming and it's hot, otherwise it is plenty cool. Got 1 bottom and 2 front 140mm intake, and then the top has 3 120mm fans in the AIO. I can take a picture.

neon current
#

Okay that’s not bad at least

#

You have a good number of fans

terse steeple
dry pike
neon current
#

Most unnecessary cases

#

Besides the one to the far left

terse steeple
#

Yeah, unless you have the money.

neon current
#

Yeah exactly

terse steeple
#

And really wanna show off some ugly ass designs for some reason 🙄

neon current
#

Id rather allocate case money to other parts

terse steeple
#

Yeah.

dry pike
neon current
#

Ah Yes excellent

dry pike
#

3x140mm in, 1x140mm + 3x120mm in AIO out. All Noctua or Corsair fans. Should be plenty of airflow.

#

I guess the PSU also has a 140mm intake in the bottom but it never runs so I don't count it 🙂

prime jasper
#

Is it a good idea to run games from a Portable Hard drive?

marsh gull
#

guys who here installed windows 11?

dry pike
#

On PC I tend to say no. Depending on the game ofc.

marsh gull
marsh gull
prime jasper
#

Oh ok

marsh gull
# prime jasper Oh ok

but external hdd is good for videos, documents and photos you don't wanna have on your main ssd

dry pike
#

I do have a proper external nvme ssd harddrive lying around. I should test if it runs well at some point. Just fear that the seek latencies might still be high despite USB 3.1/3.2 or whatever it is called now.

marsh gull
midnight crypt
#

you certainly can have an external nvme ssd

#

which connects with usb

marsh gull
#

aren't nvme ssds the ones who connect with m.2?

midnight crypt
#

yes

marsh gull
#

then you can't connect an m.2 ssd with usb

midnight crypt
#

you can buy an external enclosure for them

marsh gull
dry pike
#

nvme is a Interface Specification that utilizes PCIe - m.2 is a form factor and a connector

#

You can easily convert nvme to USB

dry pike
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the m.2 connector can both utilize nvme and SATA as interface.

dry pike
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My fear is that the USB connection will introduce some latency that will make it less optimal for gaming but it should still work.

marsh gull
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so a bit of preformance wasted

quick locust
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Yeah

wintry prairie
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this

And my GPU has no fans.

white crater
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Minimum device requirements released yet or not ?

wintry prairie
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Not

terse steeple
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Minimum spec wise.

white crater
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Atleast gtx1050

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I guess

terse steeple
solid maple
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anyone know system req for bf2042?

opaque saddle
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!!specs

silent oasisBOT
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Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

supple bane
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seriously tho when are they going to release this >:(

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my money was on right after EA play, but it still not out. my guess is we wont know until the beta where they can see how it performs on different selections of hardware ?

opaque saddle
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No one knows. AFAIK there usually be a big wave of replacing hardware for the new bf

supple bane
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it was a rhetorical question :P ik know one knows

opaque saddle
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coz i know others will be looking at this thread anyway. It is a response to others

coarse nimbus
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If there was even any stock to buy

wintry prairie
dry pike
# supple bane seriously tho when are they going to release this >:(

If I remember correctly for BFV minimum specs for the alpha/beta was released right before they were released and the final specs were like 3 weeks before release. So if they do the same that would make the beta specs arrive right before the beta sometime in September. I could be completely wrong though.

plucky token
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They come when they come 👀

supple bane
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thats something my mom would say Kappa

proud trellis
lean cipher
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if i have a 3060 ti 5600x 16gig ram should i play on ultra?

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i play on ultra and its good i get like 150 fps avg but is it a good or bad idea

storm osprey
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if youre a try hard, a bad idea for visibility

supple bane
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yeah the best try hard settings are vsync off, future frame rendering off, everything set to low except mesh which is on ultra

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but turning off future frame rendering will lower you fps significantly but comes with the reward with slightly less input lag. so i say if you can still hold 144fps with it off, then leave it off

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if you are dropping below 144fps turn it back on

lean cipher
storm osprey
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personally i run EVERYTHING low/off except for textures, i gotta have the best textures

storm osprey
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3080/10700kf/16gb

lean cipher
storm osprey
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yea, hard work and dedication pays off

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(im kidding, im lazy af)

lean cipher
storm osprey
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lol thanks

atomic jackal
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do you guys have a chair suggestion for gaming

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its not particularly technology but i dont think theres any other channels for this haha

small bough
atomic jackal
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my chair is uncomfortable

small bough
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F

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play on the floor then Troleador_Cara

atomic jackal
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its a desktop

small bough
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then idk man search in ikea or smh

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i dont find "gaming chairs" confortable

lean cipher
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or herman miller but those r super expensive'

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office chairs are better than gaming chairs

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but at a higher price