technology

[short pier]

that's their problem

what the hell

[pale quartz]

it's not their problem, it's how resource allocation works for cores

I didn't say it's bad

I'm saying it's not enough to satisfy your requirements

[latent light]

Imo any CPU like the Ryzen 5 1600 and i7-3930K and better should run games smooth for years to come

[pale quartz]

[short pier]

why would they

release a new generation of cpus

[storm rune]

i've seen some pics and 5600x single core is very GOOD

[short pier]

with less cores

than the preivous

[pale quartz]

because they didn't have much of a choice

[short pier]

why wouldn't they create a new architecture

befoer

[pale quartz]

it was either drop the frequency or drop the cores

[latent light]

4 core/8 thread is borderline getting outdated

[pale quartz]

rocket lake is a half way generation step

it was supposed to be developed on 10nm

but it had to be backported to 14nm hence why 10 cores do not work in the temperature envelope

it runs a newer architecture which wasn't built for 14nm fabrication

[short pier]

alright

Here is the deal.

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[short pier]

HAHA

victory

[storm rune]

so we shall wait

till 22

and see if they give us the specs

[pale quartz]

intel were kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place regarding rocket lake

[short pier]

recommended specs are usually poo poo anyways

[storm rune]

so why would they even push it out

[short pier]

money!

[pale quartz]

sales

[short pier]

be more specific deco

[storm rune]

yea but no one is buying it because it's shit 😭

[short pier]

actually

[pale quartz]

they needed anything to plug the gap till alder lake

[short pier]

be more broad

[pale quartz]

sales for CPUs are reported on a quarterly basis

[short pier]

BROAD

MONEy

[pale quartz]

and if intel delayed the release they would have had to tell investors they had effectively no new product for the entirety of the quarter

which is.. not something any company wants to tell investors

[short pier]

It's quite dubious indeed.

[pale quartz]

there's also the issue with alder lake

any delay is around 6 months in length, generally anyways

if they delayed it till well now and released it on 10nm it would have 10 cores

but you would have no reason to buy it as alder lake is launching in little under 4 months

[latent light]

Alder-Lake ain't that big of a leap and DDR5 is very expensive

[storm rune]

do you guys think that bf2042 will have dlss?

[latent light]

Windows 11 came out in time for Hybrid architecture tho

I still think that big.LITTLE isn't suitable for high performance desktop

Hopefully there are models with Golden Cove cores only

[latent light]

Yes

[short pier]

they confirmed that already

I think

or something

because dice is working specifically with nvidia

[pale quartz]

it will yes

it will also 90% have FSR

[pale quartz]

alder lake generally is a big question mark

big.little is long overdue for desktop platforms, how intel go about handling task scheduling and bin tasking will determine how successful alder lake is in general

[latent light]

AMD wants to do hybrid with Zen 5 apparently

Don't think effecient cores will affect gaming

Pretty sure games will just use the fast cores

While slower cores handle background processing and operating system

[pale quartz]

it's a lot more complicated than that generally for big.little

[short pier]

What makes you think that

[pale quartz]

games will want to use the big cores in the system, the trouble is however is that it will also want to use the little cores at the same time

[latent light]

FSR very easily to implement since it's simple tech

[short pier]

Yeah but

What if they don't

[pale quartz]

DICE does not have exclusivity with nvidia

it is an official partnership

[short pier]

Oh ok

[pale quartz]

all it means is Nvidia can use battlefield 2042 for DLSS branding

[latent light]

Yeah

[short pier]

Alright

Well that's good news

Hopefully fsr can be as good as DLSS

[pale quartz]

don't expect it to be

the technologies are very different from each other

[latent light]

FSR has a lot of needed improvement but I imagine it will in the coming months

[short pier]

It's already released I don't know if it can be improved upon

[pale quartz]

FSR will be good, however it won't be as good as DLSS, it's simply down to a difference in scalable complexity

[short pier]

It's just a post process effect

It's sussy

[latent light]

FSR isn't a competitor to DLSS since it's not AI accelerated

[pale quartz]

FSR has a broad advantage as DLSS is dependent on RT cores to perform its neural processing

[latent light]

I imagine there will be an official response to DLSS with next-gen

[pale quartz]

FSR doesn't depend on any sort of neural acceleration

[short pier]

Then what do tensor cores do

[pale quartz]

hence why it will be implemented on the consoles

[pale quartz]

TC cores were utilised mostly for DLSS 1.0

it made sense at the time due to how it functioned

[short pier]

Well yeah because that was 2000 series

But 2.0 uses mostly tensor right? That's what they are designed for

[pale quartz]

2.0 uses both

where it can, anyways

the trouble with 1.0 and TC cores was scheduling was a massive issue that's why you saw stuttering etc and bad sample textures with it

[short pier]

Yeah cause they trained specific games

And it was poo poo

[pale quartz]

it was to do with how the GPU interpreted the sample

not the sample itself

[short pier]

Yeah trained the network I mean

With the games

[pale quartz]

anyways cut a long story short 2.0 "fixed", the correct term is improved the neural processing by offloading resources to RT cores away from TC cores

which they should have done to begin with

[dry pike]

That's quite the guess.

[pale quartz]

it's an assumption, it's not without merit

frostbite has already endorsed FSR

[latent light]

Ampere Next (RTX 4000) is gonna have an L3 cache just like RDNA 2/3, 72% more CUDA than Ampere

[short pier]

Ay look it's carbonic my favorite

[pale quartz]

and well it doesn't make sense for DICE not to implement FSR anyways

[short pier]

He do be lurkin

😳

[dry pike]

Aaahhh, the "Spacestar Ordering" approach to getting what you want 😄

[pale quartz]

it's little development time for a boost in all platforms that the game runs on

pc console etc etc

[short pier]

I really do want fsr though

I don't have a 2000 or 3000 series GPU

And I need to breath life into my card

With amd

[dry pike]

I hope the game will get FSR as well and I don't see why it shouldn't get it. But it's gaming, plenty of things that don't make sense happen so I dare not come with any guesses regarding FSR.

[pale quartz]

FSR as time goes on will likely just become the defacto standard for how upsampling is handled where DLSS isn't used and will lose the AMD branding

[short pier]

Carbonic I can't use your sticker I'm on mobile 😔

😏

[short pier]

Lose the amd branding where

[dry pike]

Discord on mobile is a bit slow, especially Android.

[pale quartz]

in the games it is implemented

aka it will go from "AMD FSR" to just "FSR"

[short pier]

Oh yeah

I don't expect it to ever be "AMD FSR"

[pale quartz]

it's already being worked on to be included in the engines that it's necessary so 90% in a few years time that's how it'll go

[short pier]

Yeah it's cringy

Open source fsr

Is the code out yet?

They said they would release it

[pale quartz]

the code is already "technically" out, it just hasn't been posted under the GPL yet

[dry pike]

FSR and DLSS should both have been part of DirectX but Microsoft has been dropping the ball with DirectX for quite a while.

[pale quartz]

the repository will be made available on the 16th iirc

[short pier]

Very good

[pale quartz]

the fact that a sample model for FSR was modded in for GTA without the code being publicly available yet should show how easy it is to implement though

[quick locust]

DLSS is getting added to proton

will be nice

[pale quartz]

ah yes nvidias war with Linux finally being forced to actually be compliant with it

long time coming

[latent light]

Microsoft making their own version of super sampling called DirectML, which is supported on Xbox Series and possibly RX 6000 series GPUs

[fallen harbor]

if it's not in mercadolibre.com.ar then it isn't anywhere

[analog hollow]

if i get a new ssd how would i install windows to that ssd

[digital hill]

Buy usb stick over 8gb use microsoft tool for putting a windows 10 on it and then boot that usb to install windows on the ssd

and I recommend using this link by microsoft for help on that https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d

[dry pike]

I usually migrate Windows from the old drive to the new drive if possible. I currently use Samsung SSDs and they have their free "Samsung Data Migration Software for Consumer SSD" which allow me to do that. Other brands often have similar tools. Might we worth looking into.

[near rune]

Probably easier to install it

[analog hollow]

thank you

[marsh gull]

uninstall windows, use a USB stick with the windows installer and plug it in: select your ssd as boot drive

[pale quartz]

it's possible to clone to the partitions over from non Samsung devices if your current SSD does not use GPT, you can also compress your current windows installation into a recovery package which will allow you to restore it on your new SSD

[fallow garden]

@analog hollow https://youtu.be/5Wml2PfkE-k easiest way, assuming u have windows already, u just wanna move it to the new ssd

[river plume]

yo

[prime jasper]

i plan to buy a game on g2a. do you recommend that page?

[river plume]

How much should you ask for a relatively unused RTX 3060 TI

Used for less than 3 months, 0 mining

[river plume]

I've bought from g2a, they have some nasty fees but i havent had any other problems

[prime jasper]

thanks man

so not bad?

[river plume]

Just don't use the saftey net or whatever

Just paying extra for not much reason

i cant remember it was called but you can just untick on checkout

[prime jasper]

And what is the safety net for? and why do you have to pay for it?

[river plume]

It's some insurance bullshit

idk i never use it

[prime jasper]

just in case I don't buy it in g2a I saw many comments that the game does not work or was already used

[silent oasis]

ℹ️ Discussing keysites (especially advertising and/or linking keysites) is against the rules of the server as these websites can either give you the wrong product that you have asked for and can be used to phish your account and payment information. Additionally, any illegally obtained EA product WILL be disabled by EA, and your access to that product will be lost.

[prime jasper]

okey

thanks man

[analog hollow]

thank you i will try it when I get the ssd

[astral trellis]

ihpone

[midnight crypt]

whats that

[prime jasper]

Is there an app or a website where we can get real money by drawing?

[quick locust]

Not really tech related but you can do commission on many

[prime jasper]

Hmm ok thanks for telling me

[midnight crypt]

twitter is a really common place for that

[molten bramble]

!!r4 @analog hollow

[silent oasis]

Rule 4: Do not bypass the filter, disrupt voice/text channels, impersonate users, abuse spoiler tags, discuss cheats, post cheat websites/exploits, name & shame.

[analog hollow]

srry didnt know this

[quick locust]

https://www.techradar.com/news/new-linux-release-candidate-cuts-thousands-of-lines-of-unnecessary-code

[arctic crag]

Who the fk still uses linux anyway in 2021

[quick locust]

A lot of corporations

Where windows server is pointless

Why wouldn't they use Linux lul

Except a few cases where some of the BSDs are better

[arctic crag]

Mate maybe corporations but what about the standard user like me and you

We can buy windows key for under 15$ now

[quick locust]

Linux works just fine

Not for everything obviously

Also don't mention keystores here

[arctic crag]

I didn’t mention any store did i?

I said you can get it under 15$ anywhere if you search

[quick locust]

So

I can get Linux for 0

[arctic crag]

You don’t have to activate windows

[quick locust]

But to each their own

I know

I use both

[supple bane]

linux has its advantages

its much easier to run compared to windows, and you can get CLI OS's based on linux, which are both very efficent and very useful for something like a raspberry pi

[quick locust]

Ironically it would be better for the surface RT as well

Since windows 8 RT was both restrictive and too much for it

But it's also good for large projects on high end

Though I mostly use Spyder and LaTeX for uni, so not exactly demanding

[supple bane]

the reason a lot of server deploments chose linux over windows server is that CLI. being able to devote basically ALL resources of the server to its client instead of having to use them running the OS. also allows the operator to do commands immediatly instead of having to click through endless menus to get to the setting they want

[weary cypress]

windows keys are like £5

[quick locust]

My professors also use linux

Except for a few Mac users

[weary cypress]

I used Ubuntu once, it was fun

[supple bane]

i personally wouldnt use linux. i see its advantages but its not for me

[quick locust]

I use both

Fedora/windows dual boot on my laptop

[supple bane]

i have a 500 gig hdd that is collecting dust in a draw that i could use as a dual boot for linux i guess

[quick locust]

Artix and windows on desktop

And OpenSuSE

So triple boot I guess

But to each their own

Just wanted to tell that there's reasons to use Linux in 2021

Or BSD

[dry pike]

I used to have dual boot, now if I want to play with Linux I just boot up hyper-v and install it in a VM.

[supple bane]

does anyone have experience with raid ?

i have two seagate hdd's that are the same model but one is 1tb and one is 2tb

if i was to put them in raid 0 for the extra performance, what would be the downside ?

i mean because im using two different capacities

would it take the capacity of the lower drive giving me 1+1tb instead of 1+2tb?

[dry pike]

depends on the raid level

[supple bane]

0

[dry pike]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels

[supple bane]

im only interested in the performance, not the security

so raid 0 is the one i want

[dry pike]

You would loose 1GB total space. Each drive need to use the same amount of space in Raid 0.

[supple bane]

i assume you mean tb?

but yeah thats what i thought

[dry pike]

oh yeah

[prime jasper]

Is the M1 Garand EBR a designated marksman rifle or a semi-automatic rifle? Is it used in the military?

[near rune]

you mean mk14 ebr?

thats a designated marksman rifle

[molten bramble]

Provided you've got a backup solution, it's about as performance minded in RAID configuration as you're going to get. Don't use it if you value your dataset though if you don't run some sort of external repository to tuck it away.

[dry pike]

If he is just using it for game files and not save or settings files Raid 0 would work as you could always just download the games again.

[ashen ether]

hello i have Ryzen 3 3100, ASUS TUF B450M and a 1650super, i need UPS recommendations

i know nothing about UPS specs

[molten bramble]

So an external repository then...

[molten bramble]

I believe I have a site for you to calculate that, one moment.

[molten bramble]

https://www.newegg.ca/tools/power-supply-calculator/

[ashen ether]

error

[molten bramble]

?

[ashen ether]

ok i just refreshed the page

it just showed error

not loading the site

[molten bramble]

Ah

Loads it for me, maybe a route on your end?

You running a VPN or no?

[ashen ether]

nah

this is for PSU

[molten bramble]

Yup

[dry pike]

First thing you need to know and explain when buying a UPS is why you need a UPS.

[ashen ether]

frequent power outages

[molten bramble]

What kind of board is the ASUS TUF B450M, ATX?

[ashen ether]

i just want to shut my pc down

safely

ASUS TUF B450M Plus

[dry pike]

Good, so you don't need a big battery.

[molten bramble]

How much memory and how many SSDs/HDDs?

[ashen ether]

one nvme SSD

SN550 but planning to get one 500gb MX500

[molten bramble]

memory?

[ashen ether]

8gbx2 3200mhz

[molten bramble]

so 16Gb

[dry pike]

Use a UPS calculator like the one on https://www.apc.com/shop/dk/en/tools/ups_selector/ - you don't need a long runtime as the computer just need to shut down.

[molten bramble]

Estimated 271 Watts

[ashen ether]

https://shopee.ph/AWP-Aide-900W-1500VA-UPS-with-AVR-Uninterruptible-Power-Supply-(6-Sockets)-i.358765028.8804331335

would this be good?

[molten bramble]

900W? I don't even run that and I have a 3080 in this machine with top-end hardware. https://www.apc.com/shop/dk/en/products/Back-UPS-Pro-BR-900VA-6-Outlets-AVR-LCD-Interface/P-BR900MI would do you fine or something similar to those specs.

https://www.apc.com/shop/dk/en/products/APC-Back-UPS-650-230V/P-BK650EI

[dry pike]

If you leave the computer on once in a while I would get a UPS that your can setup to auto shut down your computer.

[molten bramble]

Just realized these are Denmark links, but likely still similar equipment available in your area.

[dry pike]

My link was Danish yes, they have a good calculator for UPSs so that's why I picked it, not because you had to buy from there.

[molten bramble]

Given that you're pushing allegedly 271W, giving yourself an additional 100W of headroom minimum is likely the best play--so nothing less than a 400W solution.

[ashen ether]

thanks guys

[molten bramble]

I don't know what's wrong with this site btw, I can't click on any links in the breadcrumbs and whatnot. 😦

Otherwise I'd help you dial in.

[ashen ether]

it's a philippine website

this is what it looks like

[molten bramble]

Yeah, I can see it, just none of the links function on it for me.

Weird

[supple bane]

all you need is something with enough oomph to power a pc and monitor for probably 60 seconds, thats plenty of time for you to shut it down properly

because thats what you want a UPS for, its not really recommended to continue using the pc running on the ups, its designed to give you enough time to power it down to prevent damage

so for a gaming machine, a cheap one would do nicely, you only need to spend more on an expensive one if its super delicate and important hardware

[arctic crag]

Anyone knows what’s up with rtx 3080/3070 super cards for laptops?

Are we getting them?

[quick locust]

None announced

[prime jasper]

Could military police use these semi-automatic battle rifles: Kel-Tec RFB, PTR 91F, and HCAR?

yo guys, i got battlefield 4 on pc and for some reason my game keeps making me spin forever its unplayable, any way to fix?

[molten bramble]

This has nothing to do with #technology . Please take it to other channels, thank you.

[molten bramble]

!!support

[silent oasis]

ℹ️ Have an issue with Battlefield or your EA/Origin account? Contact EA Help:
If you need to contact the EA Help team for questions you might have regarding game or account issues, head over to https://help.ea.com

ℹ️ Have thoughts to share regarding Battlefield? Submit your feedback:
If you want to help the Battlefield team with constructive feedback to make the title/franchise even better, head over to https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield/ct-p/battlefield

ℹ️ Have you encountered a bug? Report it:
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[supple bane]

an update to this, i have determined what was at fault and how to fix it

https://streamable.com/l3rc3u

its pretty obviously the gpu fans

and i found if i run them at 50% speed at a minimum its fine, only happens below 50% speed

[prime jasper]

Can someone here help me with a issue im getting when launching the game?

"The application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b) Click okay to close the application, this is said by the BFHWebHelper.exe.

[supple bane]

!!support

[silent oasis]

ℹ️ Have an issue with Battlefield or your EA/Origin account? Contact EA Help:
If you need to contact the EA Help team for questions you might have regarding game or account issues, head over to https://help.ea.com

ℹ️ Have thoughts to share regarding Battlefield? Submit your feedback:
If you want to help the Battlefield team with constructive feedback to make the title/franchise even better, head over to https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield/ct-p/battlefield

ℹ️ Have you encountered a bug? Report it:
If you have previously unknown technical issues you'd like to highlight, head over to https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/i/m-p/7141703

ℹ️ Have an issue related to the Official Battlefield Discord server? Let us know:
If you need help related to this Discord server you can send a Direct Message (DM) to our ModMail bot! Please know that we can not help you with any game or account issues!

[prime jasper]

Thanks.

[kind kiln]

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 and Intel Core i5 10600KF prices are almost equal (3600 is +2.5$)

Still remember days when AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT was ~40$ cheaper than 10600K

[storm osprey]

how much are they?

[kind kiln]

approx 226$ in my country

or 191€

[prime jasper]

battlefield 4 maps slow to load in normal?

[kind kiln]

If you have it on HDD and your first map load, yes

[prime jasper]

Thanks man

The game said error

😐

[verbal token]

anyone with razer deathadder elite

[prime jasper]

Guys I have a problem is that when I want to enter a battlefield 4 game after they load me and enter the game the game crashes and everything goes black. neither can I close the game in any way nor with the alt + f4. The only way to close it is by restarting the pc. Could you help me?

[dry pike]

Have you tried any of the many solutions on answers.ea.com ?

[prime jasper]

No

[latent light]

Crazy how well Ryzen 3000 series is still selling

Has so much mindshare that people still buy the 3600 over CPUs like 10600K and 10700 lmao

[storm osprey]

i think it comes from a general lack of education

[prime jasper]

Dont work battlefield 4

:,(

It's work

Omg

[prime jasper]

😧

Thanks man

I love you 😁

It's works

Amazing

[dry pike]

Which solution ended up fixing it for you?

[supple bane]

I found my laptop does actually have tpm 2.0, so I signed up for insider program. Holy cow does it take forever to install

Been going for like an hour now

[dry pike]

oh yeah, so many checks to make sure the install goes smoothly it ends up taking a loooong time on most computers

[prime jasper]

uninstalled origins

[dry pike]

oh dear

[prime jasper]

Yeah

Haha

I think is my pc

[supple bane]

Yeah and my laptop is not exactly fast

A solid 2 cores and 4 threads

At.... not many ghz

Well it's done. Windows 11 babbyyy

[dry pike]

Looking forward to seeing if the Win11 drivers can really lower driver crashes by 90+%

[prime jasper]

i cant play bf4 in a big screen

😦

:(

[supple bane]

i didnt want to install it on bare metal on my main rig because of the warned potential harmful effects. but after just some playing im really excited and i might do it anyway

[molten coral]

I was thinking the same until I read that people are getting banned in some games

[dry pike]

Wasn't it like 2 games and they both got fixes within a few days?

[molten coral]

dunno

I know it was a problem with cod and pubg

[prime jasper]

help me optimize battlefield 4 for pc?

[alpine haven]

That's not the point of this channel really. That's something more for #battlefield-legacy-titles .

[prime jasper]

@prime jasperyourea legened

legend

reading ur messages made me laugh

What

[distant oar]

guys what the most stable driver rn for GTX 1660S? im using 457.30 should i upgrade?

[shadow bluff]

so uh any gaming laptop recommendation 1000-1500 dollars?

[prime jasper]

OK thanks, sorry

[shadow bluff]

any good gaming mouse in 100 dollars?

[digital hill]

g502

[shadow bluff]

ok then

[toxic mauve]

anyone else have no sound on bf4?

[cinder musk]

restart ur com

and just open audio console

see if its like

[stable mountain]

sometimes it takes a few second for the sound to start for me when i load into a server

but after that it's fine

[toxic mauve]

nope

[crude pewter]

BF4 should be just press and play.

[thin kindle]

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/07/cheat-maker-brags-of-computer-vision-auto-aim-that-works-on-any-game/ u r ded

[prime jasper]

look I explain the solution. When I play in full screen and join any game the game crashes. After it crashes, it takes me out of the game and makes an error.
When I play it in a window, the game crashes but I can enter the game. Can you explain why that happens? any solution??? take it seriously

[nova yew]

atleast tell us which game

cuz it does make a difference

[dusk quarry]

Damn loading into a match is super slow on pc, ive got an ssd and ps4 with hdd loads in alot faster.

[nova yew]

what ssd?

[dusk quarry]

samsung

500gb

dont know the model its a few years old

[nova yew]

idk which game ur talking about but in bf4 it definitey makes a difference

and its definitely faster than an hdd

[dusk quarry]

in settings it says my ssd is an hdd for some reason

[midnight crypt]

That aint right

[lofty light]

Are you sure you don't have an SSD and a HDD?

[dusk quarry]

i've found the problem i think, my ssd shows as scsi when it should be sata. Dont know how to change it but many others have the same problem

@lofty light i have 1 m.2 and 1 ssd no hdd

[naive turtle]

i get garbage ping on bf4 exclusively

nowhere else

the game is unplayable as i get kicked every 5 minutes

i have 4 ping

and in every other game i get like 20

at most

[ember bolt]

maybe you got big spikes

[lean cipher]

ok

so 3060 ti on low settings on bf5 is not good

but i have a 5600x

[rose umbra]

R6?

[lean cipher]

bf5 mb

maybe medium

[past iron]

3060ti should be fine for bf5...?

[lean cipher]

of course its fine

lol

more than fine

[past iron]

^

[lean cipher]

but i need to put right settings

[rose umbra]

You don't need low settings to get 144fps probably

[lean cipher]

well i tried it and it was good but if it becomes cpu bound, i dont want that

[lean cipher]

ill try medium. ill make the gpu work a bit

or high

ill try w dx12 on and off

[rose umbra]

What resolution? 2k?

[past iron]

Settings won't change CPU load nearly as much as gpu

[lean cipher]

1080p

[past iron]

1080p with a 5600x and 3060ti should be high/ultra no problem

[lean cipher]

yes

[rose umbra]

Lower GPU load makes a CPU bottleneck more likely though

[lean cipher]

ill go on high

and ill see

dx12 on for one try and off for another

[rose umbra]

He wants 144fps, so ultra I don't see work

[lean cipher]

and ill compare

[lean cipher]

i am fine w more

like 160-170

i was playing all on low before and i was getting super high per my gpu probably wasnt working much tho

cpu temp was low as well

i do have wallpaper engine running in the background tho

and apparently it lowers frames

[rose umbra]

It can, yeah

Definitely check the setting that the animation is paused when another program is in focus.

[lean cipher]

yes

[weary cypress]

you guys get stable frames on BFV with a 3060ti?

lucky

[storm osprey]

define stable

[latent light]

I get over 60 fps on ultra with RX 580...

Got 80-90 fps on ultra when BFV came out but the game's performance has gotten worse over time

[midnight crypt]

Ultra

[digital hill]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amds-radeon-rx-6800-and-the-rtx-3060-are-faster-than-rtx-3070-in-doom-eternal-w-ray-tracing-enabled/

That got me laughing when a rtx 3060 cheaper then the 3070 runs doom eternal better

[heady pawn]

I will never be able to afford a graphics card

[storm osprey]

1 fps slower vs 3060....

if im reading the graphs right, only at 4k max settings with ray tracing on is when a 3060 beats a 3070

[toxic zealot]

huh

wtf

[molten bramble]

Imagine playing DOOM.

[lean cipher]

im like 50 fps under the benchmark in bf5?

all on low settings

i have like 120-130 fps and on benchmark its like 170

im deleting wallpaper engine i think thats the problem

[molten bramble]

WPE created all sorts of issues on my desktops so I removed it.

At one point, it introduced artifacting into the background images themselves.

[lean cipher]

yeah

but maybe its what i have in the nvidia settings

i have it all on default

in the nvidia control panel

all on default

dx12 is disabled

future frame rendering is disabled

[wintry prairie]

I'm trying to get 360FPS.

or higher

[molten coral]

understandable, have a nice day.

[wintry prairie]

Almost there.

[noble widget]

that feeling when you might have to wait until 2042 to get your RTX 3070 :FBM:

[civic phoenix]

im good with my 130 fps

[visual quail]

geforce 210

[quick locust]

https://phys.org/news/2021-07-team-quantum-simulator-qubits-largest.html

Cool stuff

[subtle hinge]

The heck

[rose umbra]

Something something can it run Crysis?

[subtle hinge]

Lmfao

[stable mountain]

the first one? that can be run on a smart fridge at this point

[latent light]

16-core/24-thread Intel Alder-Lake CPU is 10% faster than Ryzen 9 5950X in Cinebench multithreaded score

[quick locust]

Surprising

Considering big little

And less threads

[toxic zealot]

Why are you surprised that intel can keep up with amd

its on actual working 10nm.process

[orchid folio]

Intel only gets better if there is competition

[latent light]

3D cache Zen3 is gonna blow away Alder-Lake

Js

[quick locust]

Because it's big little compared to 16 big

Not because it's intel

I mean to laaven

Half the cores don't have ht

And is slower

[latent light]

Alder-Lake uses DDR5 which is gonna run like $400 for minimum spec 32GB kit whereas you can get 32GB DDR4 for like ~$150

Zen3D still uses DDR4 and is looking to be faster than Intel 12th gen on DDR5

Also heard about Zen4 performance

8-core Zen4 could match/beat the 12-core 5900X in multithread performance

[quick locust]

Good if true

[latent light]

40% IPC gain

[quick locust]

Just rumours so far though until we hear from official sources

[latent light]

Expect Bulldozer to Zen type of Jump

[toxic zealot]

i hope it also isnt 50% more exoensive

Since buying zen 3 makes no sense for me

Entry cpu too expensive

[latent light]

5600G is cheaper than 5600X and comes with iGPU

Which is strange but oh well

I ain't buying an APU now tho, I'd wait until RDNA2 APUs or when Intel has GPU tiles in their APUs

APUs are the reason why LGA1700 is rectangular btw

Intel is wanting to fit a decent size GPU onto a SoC

Their iGPU for 12th gen should be double performance of current Ryzen 5700G

Or more

Then there's Xeon APUs...

Xeon APUs exclusive to enterprise stuff and won't come out until Raptor Lake

HBM3 on board

[plain stag]

its not the same as 5600x, they are made like zen 2 cpus, with split cache if i remember correctly, and the G version is overall worse for gaming, even the 5800G performs worse in games than 5600x while having 2 extra cores

[heady pawn]

Do FPS boosters work?
Or is it just like downloading free RAM

[plain stag]

not really

[quick locust]

No

They just change config file at most

Which you can do anyway

[proud trellis]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[proud trellis]

hurry up !

[wintry prairie]

!specs

You need a computer or console
CONFIRMED

[dry pike]

I think you will have relax with that. The BFV specs were released like 3 weeks before release of the game. For 2042 that would mean the beginning of October.

They could do it completely different this time around ofc.

[proud trellis]

im just really eager to see the specs

[prime jasper]

@neon current Im curious, what type of monitor do you own?

or types

[neon current]

The current one I’m not sure because it’s old

But it’s a ASUS swift ROG something 1440p 144hz monitor

[prime jasper]

Hm alr nice

[neon current]

But it’s about 5 ish years old so I need a new one soon

[prime jasper]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012018?nm_mc=KNC-MSNSearch&cm_mmc=KNC-MSNSearch-_-Gaming+Monitors-_-GIGABYTE-_-24012018&source=region&msclkid=44c74e8e5e2613afef732e617cb83e67

this is the one I wanna get

Pretty fucking good for the price I think

[storm osprey]

damn monitors are getting cheap

[prime jasper]

Yeah idk why but that monitor is priced extremely low

for how good it is

and it also has great reviews

and it's IPS

I guess its because 1440p is kinda becoming the new norm

[neon current]

This is definitely a good monitor

[prime jasper]

yeah I cant wait

if you have the money I'd honestly recommend looking into that one yourself

[neon current]

I might tbh. Might be saving up rn tho for a 4K one that’s supposed to have released this month

But who knows. I’ll give it another 2 months before buying a new one if I don’t see a release

[plain stag]

M27Q is a banger

great value

apart from being a bit weird with BRG pixel arrangement instead of RGB

so reading text in some applications can be a bit weird

[prime jasper]

yeah

I still just dont feel like im ready for 4k

PC would probably chug heavily on games like RDR2

just not worth it imo

at least not yet

maybe if I get a 3080 eventually

idk

Dont really feel the need to upgrade though

2080ti is still beefy enough

[neon current]

Oh yeah absolutely

Just upgrade when you want tbh

[prime jasper]

probably going to wait until the next nvidia gen comes out

after the 3000 cards

[neon current]

Fair enough

That sounds like a good compromise

[prime jasper]

yeah, even though it may hurt my heart, I can handle turning a few settings down to high or medium

if need be

[limber isle]

hello i play battlefield V well on medium - high settings in 1080p with i7 980x - rtx 2060 and 24gb ram. this year battlefield will be more expensive in terms of graphic settings?

i have to try the beta first 🙂

[supple bane]

that pc should handle it ok, you will be cpu bottle necked slightly though i think

the i7 980x is still a decent cpu, but its not great

[prime jasper]

Nobody knows for sure, but I imagine that it will be a little more intensive than V, still though you should be able to run it good

[limber isle]

yep 🙂

but i think in october i will make a new beefy pc ehehe

[nocturne pine]

can 128 players on big maps run on xbox 1 and ps4 if you play solo mode?

[limber isle]

if money will drop down

[prime jasper]

no

[nocturne pine]

damn

[supple bane]

last gen and console will be 64 players only

[limber isle]

there will be a public beta to everyone? and maybe when? XD

[supple bane]

if you pre order you will get access to the beta

[plain stag]

@prime jasper not sure how you can only see the difference on tvs, i even noticed a difference on my phone moving from a 5.2 inch 1080p screen to a 6.47 1080x2340 screen

its only about a half a million pixel difference

and its pretty noticeable

[limber isle]

@supple bane only if i preorder? last year was public for everyone

[supple bane]

afaik its something you get for preordering

[plain stag]

you get access to beta regardless

its an OPEN beta

you just get earlier access by preordering

[supple bane]

there you go then

[limber isle]

😄

[gusty harbor]

@prime jasper what’s up

[prime jasper]

I usually play on a decent size gaming monitor

[plain stag]

@prime jasper the density is even smaller on my newer phone, abour 400 ppi compared to about 430 ppi

and yet the screen is noticeably sharper on my newer phone

[prime jasper]

How big is your phone?

there is probably a difference but not a big one

[plain stag]

6.47 inch screen

compared to a 5.2 inch screen

[prime jasper]

There is probably a difference but not a big one.

[plain stag]

well, it was pretty noticeable for me

[prime jasper]

k

[plain stag]

and when i turn on my old phone, im like damn this screen is bad

well, the newer one being oled as well, so colors are miles better

[prime jasper]

Same

[plain stag]

but app icons are more blurry

[prime jasper]

but the difference doesn't worry me due to my ps5 arriving next month.

[plain stag]

even tho the pixel density is smaller, theres a higher amount of them, and our eyes dont really see a very small difference between ~30 ppi compared to half a million more pixels

[prime jasper]

Do we agree on the fact that 8k is too much.

[plain stag]

8k is pointless

unless the screen is like 150 inches

[prime jasper]

Unless your in a movie theater

[plain stag]

they are mostly 4k either way

or imax

[prime jasper]

No

[prime jasper]

wdym no!?

its pointless

It will eventually become the new 4k, and then 8k will get passed up by 12k or whatever is next

etc

8k will eventually be normal

[prime jasper]

Human eyes cant see more then 8k pixels lol

[prime jasper]

Ah the old "human eye bad lol" argument

"human eye cant see over 60 fps" 🐒

[prime jasper]

Ye one day we will all be cyborgs

[plain stag]

imax theaters use trickery to fool our eyes into perceiving the movie is in higher quality than it is

[prime jasper]

Its more of a feel thing

no it isnt lol

[plain stag]

of course there is a difference between 8k and 4k

but its literally pointless on a 80 inch screen

[prime jasper]

if our eyes saw in pixels or FPS equivalents irl would fucking suck

[supple bane]

probably not

[plain stag]

the screen has to be massive in order to have a significant impact over 4k

8k tv's are just a gimmick

[prime jasper]

You can feel that its way smoother with more fps

[supple bane]

id say 4k will become normal but it wont go past that

for a monitor

[prime jasper]

Agreed

[prime jasper]

it will once games reach a point beyond 4k

as games are doing now with 1080p

[supple bane]

no, games will get more photorealistic, but not higher resolution

[prime jasper]

most game will stay in 1080p

[plain stag]

panel manufacturers will keep making screens with higher resolutions

but it doesnt mean its all that useful

[prime jasper]

y e s

[prime jasper]

1080p is already quite low res

for most new games

[supple bane]

because 4k at 27" is already so high that you cant distinguish pixels even whilst your right upon the monitor

[prime jasper]

no its not especially for 2042

[supple bane]

so the industry wont go beyond that because people wont pay for it

[prime jasper]

Uh yeah it is

[supple bane]

8k and 12k will have its uses, but not in competitive gaming

[prime jasper]

No its not lol.

[plain stag]

in general 8k tv's wont be a thing for a while

[prime jasper]

1080p legit looks horrible on most newer games because of advancements in anti aliasing

[plain stag]

at least affordable

[prime jasper]

1080p on RDR2 is my best example

Its a blurry mess

[plain stag]

cuz of TAA

[prime jasper]

which MOST modern games use

[plain stag]

TAA implementations blur the image

by default, unless the dev applies a sharpening filter on top of it

[prime jasper]

and on top of that modern games are being made with 1440p as the standard res

[plain stag]

yes, most devs use TAA because its good

[prime jasper]

for consoles anyway

[plain stag]

good in a sense that its pretty cheap and gives good results

[supple bane]

1440p is the sweet spot for monitors

[plain stag]

with the right amount of sharpening

[prime jasper]

Never fixes the ghosting 1080p has with TAA

[plain stag]

MSAA died out cuz its literally supersampling

there are games with good TAA implementations

doom for example

[supple bane]

but my point stands that gaming wont reach 8k mainstream, not on a monitor at least. it will on TV's

[prime jasper]

yeah but most of them only look good with 1440p

[plain stag]

it just depends how the dev implements TAA

[supple bane]

also refresh rate wont increase much more past what we have, we have basically reached the limit

[prime jasper]

I have a 1080p monitor and DOOM, RDR2 (native res), and Shadow of the Tomb Raider, all look like blurry paintings

even with sharpening to the max

its just not good

[plain stag]

cant remember a game

it had really good TAA implementation

pretty much no ghosting

but i cant remember which one was it

it was the best implementation that ive ever seen

[prime jasper]

cyberpunk has pretty good TAA but I used DLSS with it so I might be a bit bias

[plain stag]

point a gun at my head and i still wouldnt remember which one im thinking about xd

regardless, TAA is here to stay

[prime jasper]

which is why I'm saying, you may aswell just move up to 1440p

otherwise you'll suffer like me

[plain stag]

oh im gonna go for 1440p

but first, gpu

xD

M27Q is gonna be my next monitor

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/arm-performance-per-watt-new-metric

[prime jasper]

at least RDR2 has a render scaling option so I can just render it at 1440p anyway

looks so much fucking better than native

like holy shit

[plain stag]

yes, you can only cram in so many transistors

yes, cuz you are effectively applying supersampling

rendering the game at 1440p, and downscaling it to 1080p

[latent light]

TSMC got 3nm in risk production iirc gonna be used in the iPhone 14 series

[prime jasper]

yeah I know that, im just dogging on 1080p once again

[plain stag]

i used to play bf5 with 150% render res

until an update fucked me hard

and completely destroyed my performance ever since

i think IBM made like a prototype 1nm transistor as well

but the thing about transistor sizes

they arent what they seem to be

its not a standardized measurement

intel for example treats their transistor size like the actual size of it

and amd treats the size of the transistor as a distance between two transistors

so that 3nm transistor doesnt necessarily mean its 3nm in size

intel's 14nm and amd's 7nm transistors are very similar in size

its just that AMD counts that 7nm size thats between two transistors

[prime jasper]

I have a transistor

in my balls

[plain stag]

they also do a lot of rounding

but you know, marketing, "the smaller the number, the better it is"

[prime jasper]

the lower the fps

the better

agreed

I can run rdr2 with everything maxed out at 2 fps

[plain stag]

lool

[latent light]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-rdna-gpu-on-samsung-exynos-2200-reportedly-codenamed-voyager-to-be-fabbed-on-4nm-process/

This is huge

[prime jasper]

small

[latent light]

[prime jasper]

how can it be huge if it looks small

real talk

[latent light]

4nm process is tiny

[supple bane]

just 20 silicone atoms wide

[storm osprey]

a piece of paper is about 100,000 nm

[sweet cloak]

anyone know why bf5 kills my keyboard RGB it a logitech one

[molten coral]

henlo windows 11

[storm osprey]

doesnt logitech have some setting where its light coordinate with certain games?

[sweet cloak]

It look like that but then that set to blue but it just turn it off like if I press the button

[pulsar smelt]

someone have noticed a error on gfe when you try to optimize the games?

"Unable to retrieve settings"

[shadow bluff]

is the rtx 3050 close to rtx 3060? because in comparisons its like the 1660 (FPS)

also i wanna buy 1000 dollar gaming laptop, any recommended? rog g513qc?

[molten bramble]

Are you running G-hub? @sweet cloak

Re:

[waxen pewter]

does anyone know if the rtx 3060 is worth $500?

Im seeing alot of legit retailers sell for that price even though its msrp is $329

[digital hill]

nope

[marsh gull]

no but for these days it's an ok deal

[quick locust]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16827/russia-to-build-riscv-processors-for-laptops-8core-2-ghz-12nm-2025

[hushed dirge]

What is the best graphics settings for BF4, I've 1050Ti (In Laptop)
For multiplayer

[visual quail]

ultra

if you want more than 60fps probably medium

[sweet cloak]

yeah I am

[near rune]

I run texture and effects at high, mesh at ultra and the rest at lowest

Mesh is the only important one to keep at max

[stable mountain]

gasp so you're cheating! /s

[hushed dirge]

Okay thank you so much

[dry pike]

DRM causes worse performance yet again https://www.pcgamer.com/resident-evil-village-drm-denuvo-stuttering/

[ember bolt]

is it Denuvo again?

oh it is

ofcourse

[dry pike]

It uses Denuvo and Capcom's own DRM technology. Dunno which is causing it.

[ember bolt]

interesting

[dry pike]

Capcom told Eurogamer that they will fix it though https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2021-resident-evil-village-cracked-performance-beats-official-code
while good it still doesn't look good that their Q&A team didn't catch it, but guess they don't get test DRM vs. non-DRM performance

[atomic jackal]

how does palit rtx 3060 dual and inno3d rtx3060 ichill 3x compare?

is the price difference worth it?

[opaque saddle]

i would go for something better than that

i had both palit and inno3d GPU back then. Wasn't the wise option to get those

[atomic jackal]

why?

[opaque saddle]

Quality Check issues

[molten bramble]

Worth looking at, but sometimes you have to clear the game preset and/or re-map to default. It’s some feature/bug in G-Hub. I had it happen when R6S and SC myself.

It’s in your keyboard settings in G-Hub.

[sweet cloak]

May of been that as I am playing now and it working

[molten bramble]

👍

[runic valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865196365637353472/865196414606901268/119588f34d2caa684f67f08ea86e0401_001.mp4

[little zinc]

Do it ah

Yes

Niceee

[atomic jackal]

video doesn't open

can you send it as a file instead of an url?

[runic valve]

it opens fine

thats on your end

[atomic jackal]

it doesnt open for me

[runic valve]

that sucks

[plain stag]

might not be denuvo, on crysis remastered for example, it uses denuvo, and someone did a frametime analysis over at that discord, and denuvo has no noticeable impact

as far as i know newer versions of denuvo barely affect performance in games

[storm osprey]

if people didnt cheat games that havent increased in prices in a decade we wouldnt have this scenario

[ember bolt]

what has that to do with prices

[storm osprey]

its just an added point that gamers are self entitled greedy shits

wed rather blame that a company is trying to make money on their product from people pirating the game instead of blaming people for stealing

[latent light]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-30-series-shipments-reportedly-halted-till-august-on-account-of-ether-crash/

Nvidia halts the shipments of RTX GPUs until next month because the "used market is flooded"

[molten coral]

Bruh

[latent light]

Maybe it's also to build up a large stock

But doubt

[prime jasper]

Hey I wanna buy the new Xbox. What should I buy? Series S or X?

[storm osprey]

so glad i dont have to deal with wanting a gpu...

[latent light]

The X is worth it more in the long run

Double the storage of the S and 3x the graphics performance

Series S is aimed at 1080p displays imo

It can barely even do 1440p

[prime jasper]

Cool.

Im trying to buy it but it’s either out of stock or the retailers overpriced it

Like by 150-200 bucks extra

[latent light]

Yeah especially online retailers

I went to Wal-Mart the other day and saw Series X and PS5 in stock at normal MSRP lol

[prime jasper]

Cool

[latent light]

But online they were $700+

[prime jasper]

K

@latent light thanks for the tips

[visual quail]

xbox series X is 1,000 everywhere i look

[quick locust]

https://interestingengineering.com/japan-shattered-internet-speed-record-319-terabits

[digital hill]

Too much speed

[latent light]

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-fsr-resident-evil-village-unity-unreal-engine/

[humble breach]

https://youtu.be/oLtiRGTZvGM

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtiRGTZvGM

Zen2 CPU and RDNA2 graphics in a handheld starting at $399

[storm osprey]

basically xbon/ps4 power performance, but for a 720p display

honestly, its pretty cool

[proud trellis]

i can finally play steam games while sitting on the toilet

[gusty bison]

What about sleep walking

[weary cypress]

yes

[prime jasper]

What!?!

pog

i cant find my gpu photoosss

im to lazy to take anotherrr

That's the stupidest thing to put on gummy bear the CPU.

You can dm me

[lean cipher]

bf5 is a bit blurry any fix. i play on ultra rtx 3060 ti

[latent light]

2 TFlops is roughly GTX 1050Ti performance

Good for an early RDNA2 APU with only 4 compute units

Ryzen 6000 APUs will feature 12 compute units

Also has Ray-tracing support

Pretty interesting considering it's built for an 720p display, I think it will handle well

[raw turtle]

Keep in mind: TFLOPs don’t show actual performance expecially when comparing Radeon/nvidia

[raw turtle]

Amd FSR is looking better and better

[storm osprey]

TFLOPS is really the only single statistic we can use

[prime jasper]

Anyone know of some really banger 4k monitors I can look at?

I'm torn between getting a 1440p one or 4k

not sure which at this point

[toxic zealot]

@prime jasper for?

[prime jasper]

pc obv

gaming

[plain stag]

i'd rather get 1440p tbh

for 4k you need a 3090 or a 3080ti to get decent performance

[prime jasper]

hmmm yeah I suppose

I just want the highest visual quality with at least 60 fps

sick of games looking like blurry messes with TAA on 1080p

[plain stag]

i'd honestly go for 1440p

depends how much you wanna spend on the monitor tho

and 4k monitors dont come in cheap either

[prime jasper]

true

[lean cipher]

should i have spatial sound on or off

in bf

[prime jasper]

depends on your audio setup

I would say, if you already have fake surround sound headphones, then turn it off

[lean cipher]

steelseries arctis pro

[prime jasper]

Yeah I would leave it off

[lean cipher]

ok

[prime jasper]

but its really up to how you think its sounds

more of a personal preference

[lean cipher]

it sounds the same tbh

[marsh gull]

what is spacial sound?

[prime jasper]

artificial surround sound for people who don't have actual surround sound settings for their headphones or audio setups

[marsh gull]

oh ok, so if i have surround sound in my headphones and have razer 7.1 surround sound i don't need it

[prime jasper]

yeah

[marsh gull]

ok cool

but 3D headphones?

[marsh gull]

should I use that?

[prime jasper]

idk

I use war tapes personally

[marsh gull]

It works well but I was just asking

[marsh gull]

I don't hear much difference between normal sound and war tapes

[prime jasper]

yeah war tapes just usually amplifies background ambient war noise

[marsh gull]

ok

[prime jasper]

and far away gunshots

[quick locust]

It's 1280x800

16:10

And they changed steamos quite a bit, now arch based

[lament flare]

Which is better for gaming perfromance? RTX 3060 130W + Ryzen 5900HX or RTX 3070 95W + Ryzen 5700H?

[dry pike]

The 3060 use 36% more power than the 3070? I swear, laptops are weird 😄

[opaque saddle]

TDP and heat dissipation. The laptop manufacturers can manipulate the power wattage to fit a powerful gpu in it. However, it is down to whether the laptop design and the manufacturers, whether they are willing to make the laptop colder or hotter

[dry pike]

Oh I know. But it's too extreme when the wattage can jump that much, also too customer unfriendly. A 3070 should always be more powerful than a 3060, if a 3070 uses too much power for the laptop in question then that laptop should not have a 3070.

[lofty light]

It'd be a 3070 Max Q I guess

Where you can get a high end part and clock it right down for power economy

[atomic jackal]

https://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/asus-geforce-rog-strix-rtx3060-gaming-oc-12gb-gddr6-192bit-nvidia-ekran-karti.html#yorumlar is this a good card?

[latent light]

Samsung Exynos 2200 to feature a 6-core AMD RDNA2 GPU designed to deliver unrivaled graphics performance in upcoming Galaxy S22 series smartphones

[atomic jackal]

i like snapdragon more

exynos is almost always weaker for some reason

[latent light]

Not anymore lol

Exynos 2200 is expected to be faster than A14 Bionic and should rival/beat the A15 even

Graphics are about 3x faster than any other android smartphone currently available using the latest SnapDragon 888

As for CPU... About 40% higher single-core performance

[toxic zealot]

Bruh

So its getting laptop gpu

[atomic jackal]

same, a 3090 is 3400 dollars here

[lean ingot]

Prices are getting better

[atomic jackal]

crazy i know

[lean ingot]

At least in Europe

Prices are not at MSRP yet but they are close

[atomic jackal]

is a strix 3060 overkill by the way?

should i get a tuf gaming one instead

[stable mountain]

it probably won't make a giant difference, especially when you're not trying to overclock it to the edge

[atomic jackal]

yeah, might as well get a founders edition 3070 for that money

ill probably get a tuf then

big price difference for minimal changes

[quick locust]

Founders been nonexistent here

[latent light]

Samsung Exynos 2200 graphics on Galaxy S22 faster than Xbox One, PS4

[quick locust]

Those are also 8 year old midrange ones

[toxic zealot]

wait

6 vega cores are faster than ps4?

[quick locust]

They aren't Vega

Rdna2

[latent light]

RDNA2 at very low power

[crude creek]

Do you guys know anything about AMD releasing new CPU this year

[latent light]

Zen 3 refresh with new 3D stacked V-cache

[crude creek]

This year?

[latent light]

Yeah November

[crude creek]

my friend is rebuilding his PC for 2042 and he's thinking of getting a 5900x rn if nothings coming out

[crude creek]

you have a link for that?

[latent light]

That's plenty

[supple bane]

id say wait for zen4 tho

because itll release at the same time as 2042 and will obviously at the very least be the same performance for less money

[crude creek]

well where are you guys getting these release dates bc my friends been looking for leaks and he came up empty

[supple bane]

you can just look at past release dates and work it out

[latent light]

5900X is all you really need tbh, although AMD demonstrated a prototype 5900X with 3D cache and it was 15% faster in gaming on average than the regular 5900X

15% faster as an engineering sample

It's gonna be on AM4 socket still

[supple bane]

i thought the rumour was the next amd release would be LGA?

[latent light]

Nah that's end of 2022

[supple bane]

oh

[latent light]

AM5 socket could launch a little bit earlier than Q4 2022

Maybe for Rembrandt

[lament flare]

Go for tuf.

[storm osprey]

lol like you have a choice of what you can get

[digital hill]

https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-deck-handheld-pc-ecosystem/

299 deck might be coming soon if companies invest in the handheld market

[opaque saddle]

the problem is that, people shouldn't get the base model because it has 64gb storage and more imporatantly. it is eMMC

[storm osprey]

id rather spend 30 bucks on a 256gb sd card than 130 more for internal nvme

[opaque saddle]

nah... it doesn't work this way

AAA titles shall not be run on eMMC (slow. unless it is fast) because it can get quite slow. the 256gb version can storage 1-2 AAA games

[storm osprey]

the first "not base model" is 256 gb though

[opaque saddle]

sd card has too much in latency

[lofty light]

"It's beginning to sound a lot like Steam Machine-mas"

[opaque saddle]

the base model starts at 64gb of storage

[storm osprey]

right, and mid tier is 256

so thats still 1-2 AAA games regardless of nvme or not

[opaque saddle]

depends. unless it is codmw

lol

if it needs to be docked with DC power. shall better get a usbc hub

[proud trellis]

MW's size is so stupid

200+GB for a cod game....

[storm osprey]

i expect people to be buying this for mostly indie games or old titles

[opaque saddle]

it looks like it has two USB c slot. one at the top and another one at the bottom

unless people wants that to be docked all the time, they shall be getting a desktop or a gaming laptop

otherwise 256gb version shall be the lightest and a more portable option

[storm osprey]

i bet theres gonna be people buying this as a stop gap to desktop gaming

[opaque saddle]

if i have to travel a lot, then yeah

[atomic jackal]

what is a steam deck?

[opaque saddle]

https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck

[atomic jackal]

first time im hearing this

that's not going to be comfortable to use for mouse focused games like hoi4

[storm osprey]

they have track pads on both sides

[atomic jackal]

yeah way too minimal changes for that much money

[opaque saddle]

dont forget steam controller lol

[atomic jackal]

track pads can't click can they

[storm osprey]

so sure, youre not gonna be global elite on csgo with this thing, but it should be good enough

[atomic jackal]

i dont think you can play hoi4 in that

[opaque saddle]

steam controller has a cheap laptop quality trackpad

[storm osprey]

i think you certainly can, its just a matter if you really want to

[atomic jackal]

how are they going to be able to run aaa games on a handhled device anyway

[opaque saddle]

i guess they want you to use the joysticks or Keyboard and mouse

800p res

[atomic jackal]

i ran it on my mobile device on geforce now, just that its unplayable

[storm osprey]

thats not similar though?

[atomic jackal]

i know, i was just giving my experience with it

[storm osprey]

gotcha

[atomic jackal]

but i still dont know how its going to run aaa games

[opaque saddle]

not really for fps

it can do video output via usbc

[lament flare]

So do you want to buy TufA15 or TufA17? In the top of Tuf A series If you go for TufA15 you will get 15.6 inch with 240 Hz screen but if you go for TufA17, you will get 17.3 inch with 144 Hz screen. Both almost has same spec (RTX3070 + Ryzen7-5800H​)​.

[atomic jackal]

i was thinking of getting the ryzen 5 3600 as cpu

will that bottleneck my 3060?