technology

[weary cypress]

on some games, performance is shite
VBIOS is outdated

[arctic crag]

Which 3060 you got

[weary cypress]

Asus tuf

[arctic crag]

Can you explain more about the shitty performance?

Like in what games

[weary cypress]

Let's take minecraft as an example

[arctic crag]

And do you notice stutter and fps drop?

[weary cypress]

i barely go over 250fps with optifine

Yes

BFV i cannot go above 58fps (vsync isn't on)

[arctic crag]

Have you checked the temperatures and the gpu usage?

[weary cypress]

BF4 i get 160 (not ultra)
BF1 I need to lower the settings again to maintain above 160

GPU usage in BFV is 99%
my CPU is like 60%

temps never go above 65

[arctic crag]

What setting in bfv

[weary cypress]

tried Ultra

i get 60

tried lower

highest i got was 90

[arctic crag]

1080p?

[weary cypress]

1440p

[arctic crag]

That’s pretty low

[weary cypress]

My old 1070ti pumped out more frames ngl

[arctic crag]

Yes

Have you tried fresh driver installation with ddu for example?

[weary cypress]

I have reinstalled my drivers 4 times if that's any better

[arctic crag]

What’s your gpu clock while gaming?

[weary cypress]

am i ok to dm you a screenshot?

[arctic crag]

Sure

[molten coral]

[chrome skiff]

you have stuff open in the background or something?

something doesnt seem right https://www.3dmark.com/spy/20564181

[midnight crypt]

that one is water cooled

[chrome skiff]

thats a 12 core cpu vs 8

[midnight crypt]

i mean the gpu is watercooled

so ofcourse its gonna clock higher

[chrome skiff]

yeah the 12 core 5900x should only score 400 points higher because the water cooled gpu. you are right

[weary cypress]

jealous

[molten coral]

I don't have anything overclocked it's probably just that

[chrome skiff]

I was just asking since my 5800x has docp on and pbo

my 5900x stock is 13k

[dry pike]

actually didn't know you could get it to predict game FPS, is that a paid feature?

[chrome skiff]

nah they added that into timespy a couple updates ago

it has multiple games to choose from

[weary cypress]

125+ fps for BFV yet here i am struggling with 80

[midnight crypt]

its just a rough estimate

[molten coral]

^

But yeah it was added a while ago

[dry pike]

You have to run it again? Can't see it for my old results.

[molten coral]

probably

[chrome skiff]

Its on the breakdown page with the graph of temps and clocks

so right after the test

[dry pike]

Just checked, it's a paid feature.

[chrome skiff]

Timespy goes on sale for 3 or 4 dollars all the time but i guess i forgot paying for it ive had it so long

3d mark* goes on sale

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/20970588

waiting for my water blocks to come in so i can push the gpu more wanna break the 20k range

still only 49c on air

[midnight crypt]

do you live in the arctic or what

[quick locust]

Mine hits 76-77

[chrome skiff]

no i have per room central air and i keep it cool in my pc room

[quick locust]

But 3000 rpm all the time

[chrome skiff]

my fans are 70% i think idk the rpm

oh i lied gpu z says its 1900rpm

its 70f or 21c ambient for me

[quick locust]

My room is about 27-30C usually

[chrome skiff]

you dont have bad temps plus its warmer in your room thats pretty good tbh

[quick locust]

Yeah

CPU low 80s with a D15

Which is fine

[chrome skiff]

i run a drp4 but my 5800x only hits 70s

[quick locust]

Intel cpus don't boost based on temp

[chrome skiff]

i know

[quick locust]

Unless 100+

So I got plenty of headroom

[chrome skiff]

right now humidity is my problem. I went to work with everything off and its 80-90% humidity

[quick locust]

I really need to remove dust though

[chrome skiff]

I bought a hpa 300 for the pc room works amazing

[quick locust]

My room is usually 70-80%

[chrome skiff]

sucks up dust I didn't know I had

[quick locust]

My dehumidifier does nothing to it

[chrome skiff]

I have a big 5500 square foot dehumidifier that in 2 hours will bring me down to a steady low 50 or 40s

[quick locust]

Nice

[chrome skiff]

I don't run anything when I'm not home but it catches up fast

i have a finished attic just it wasnt attached to the central air, i have a lg air conditioner with its dry mode and it drops the humidity down to 50s as well. If humidity is bothering you that is

[quick locust]

Ah nicr

No air con here

But temps are mostly fine anyway

[plucky token]

[dry pike]

1000-1500 lower score due to my CPU not being overclocked like it usually is but doesn't really matter

[plucky token]

3080ti

but tbh, for the gpu score itself, only 445 points difference...

and the up price of 300€ msrp? not worth in my eyes tbh

is your gpu overclocked or not? @dry pike

[arctic crag]

Me with a gtx 1660 ti cough* cough*

[molten coral]

my card is stuck at 1350

[chrome skiff]

it doesnt boost?

[molten coral]

Nope

[dry pike]

Nothing is overclocked, just formatted a couple of days ago and reset my BIOS etc. with it.

[dry pike]

You would probably need a RTX core test to see the big differences.

[chrome skiff]

you dont use docp? I mean pbo and docp are easy gains

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/20809534

power slider up at 105% at 925mv and pbo and docp on 8 cores

[plucky token]

well, port royal is a thing

[dry pike]

DOCP/XMP is enabled yes. Don't use PBO but do plan on redoing my ClockTuner overclock on the CPU.

[chrome skiff]

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1074638 thats port royal

[dry pike]

Still need to do proper timings for the memory too.

[atomic jackal]

guys i need help

my dad is paranoid about using his cc on the internet

[chrome skiff]

paypal

[atomic jackal]

even though i told him time and time again

that numerous of my friends bought

[atomic jackal]

they closed down in 2016 here

[atomic jackal]

and nothing happened

yeah

but when I tell him that he has an attitude like "i wont trust them because other people did"

what kind of mentality is this

for fuck sake

[chrome skiff]

I mean he can put money on a prepaid for you or something. He has every right to be weary of his cc online.

Its his money but that isnt the discussion

[atomic jackal]

yes but he never uses it

i was forced to use my moms friends cc every time i made purchases

and guess what

they all arrived safely

[atomic jackal]

yes but when you dont have an option like "paying at the door" because its the fucking 21st century, it classifies as paranoia

[chrome skiff]

I did my port royal, was there a reason? Is noone else doing it?

You can talk about this in another channel @atomic jackal. Idk what to tell you its his choice not yours

[atomic jackal]

sure

im just tired and depressed

[plucky token]

i just did

[chrome skiff]

I dont see a results link? Did i miss it?

[plucky token]

its loading

jesus

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/63527587?

[chrome skiff]

redo drivers wipe any oc or fan profiles and start fresh and if its still a problem reseat the gpu. Then if its still a problem rma it

[plucky token]

2080ti doesnt clock as high

don't forget that

[chrome skiff]

he is stuck at 1350mhz

thats its base boost frequency

[normal matrix]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[chrome skiff]

pretty good score what model of 3080 do you have?

[molten coral]

I've never overclocked, honestly forget it too much trouble for that small of a gain lul

[plucky token]

evga ftw3 ultra

[molten coral]

also I won this card from EA and don't have any warranty

[chrome skiff]

I paid for the whole gpu that means im gonna use the whole gpu

gotcha im just teasing

[molten coral]

Nah I get it

[plucky token]

your gpu is way underclocked btw

[chrome skiff]

I know i said it was at 925mv

[plucky token]

1902mhz in your run. mine did 2100

[chrome skiff]

3080s also boost higher then 3080tis

Again i undervolted mine since it doesnt need anywhere near the stock power draw. I cut 85watts on average out of my gpu load and lost like 2% performance. Then overclocked and gain 3% over stock

so being 3% faster for 85 watts less id say it was a win. The cooler is complete overkill so 85 watts less is why my card stays at like 50c max

[plucky token]

mine is running on 450watts

[chrome skiff]

mine is 280-300

when undervolted*

stock is 365-370 and 10% power limit is 390 watts

[plucky token]

and evga is like. Here you go. 450 watts

and the 3090 is 500

[chrome skiff]

I have a couple friends with 3090s on water and its absolutely mental, 500 watt power draw 2 sided water block (front and back) still hitting 60 some c

get like 3 fps more then my 3080 ti

[atomic jackal]

https://m.trendyol.com/everest/x-mesh-4-rainbow-fan-1-usb-3-0-1-usb-2-0-oyuncu-kasasi-p-35425763

is this a good case?

[plucky token]

alone the name...

thats a company i don't know

so...

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[midnight crypt]

airflow looks to be decent

[normal matrix]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[chrome skiff]

I dont have it on this pc account but my 750ti is like 1300 points and my i5 2400 was like 2100 points. The score was like 1300 flat

or 1200 i dont remember

[weary cypress]

you guys are getting actual performance from a 30 series?

lucky

[desert harness]

3080

[weary cypress]

3060 but it's "faulty"

[supple bane]

sorry for late response, but that seems like your 3060 is underperforming

[weary cypress]

Yep, apparently the vbios is outdated as well

[supple bane]

that doesnt matter

[weary cypress]

I still need to contact Asus but they aren't open yet

[supple bane]

actually. i take that back

your parts might be fine

[plucky token]

those scores are fine

[weary cypress]

Scores might be fine

but the frames aren't

[supple bane]

yeah without an overclock those scores are about right

but that shows there is nothing wrong with your hardware,

its just an issue with bfv

which is good

[weary cypress]

It's not just bfv

[midnight crypt]

what games have you tried?

[weary cypress]

BF1, BF4, Insurgent : Sandstorm, Minecraft, etc

[plucky token]

display?

[weary cypress]

1440p

[plucky token]

like, is it a new monitor or a old one

[weary cypress]

uh, i bought it like 2-3 years ago

[plucky token]

sometimes the cables can be the fault

depends on the version of the connector on the monitor, the cable etc

[weary cypress]

Well everything works perfectly fine on Rainbow Six Siege, on my 1070ti i got just above 200, with the 3060 i average over 300

I use a DP

but then again even on Siege sometimes my frames match what would've been on my old card

[plucky token]

driver issue maybe as well

[weary cypress]

drivers been reinstalled i believe 4 times(?)

[plucky token]

with ddu?

[weary cypress]

What exactly is ddu?

[plucky token]

displaydriver uninstaller

[weary cypress]

with that, no

[plucky token]

it deletes everything which a normal uninstall doesnt

[midnight crypt]

i mean the 3060 and 1070ti arent that far apart peformance wise

[weary cypress]

I did uninstall through device manager once

[midnight crypt]

in most* games

[weary cypress]

either way I already opened up an RMA for it

[supple bane]

I'm 200 points off the WR for these specs

My spare rig, because my main rig overclocks like shit

[proud trellis]

did you get a new desk

[supple bane]

Yes

[proud trellis]

looks huge

[supple bane]

fastest in the uk now

just another 100 points

for WR

that AC unit is doing bits for the cpu clocks. its a 3.3ghz chip and its going up to 3.5 because its running so cool

[wooden dome]

hi

[opaque saddle]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1412396253720289284?s=20

Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica)

Meet the newest entry to the #NintendoSwitch family! Nintendo Switch (OLED model) brings the versatility of the Nintendo Switch experience with a vibrant 7-inch OLED screen, a wide adjustable stand, and more. Nintendo Switch (OLED model) releases on 10/8.

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[weary cypress]

that looks sleek

[unreal maple]

do you think an i5 3570k overclocked to 4.2Ghz and a GTX 1060 6gb would be enough to run BF2042?

[weary cypress]

I don't think there's any minimum specs out yet

[unreal maple]

Im just looking for an idea of how it may run with these specs

[pulsar smelt]

do you play bfv?

how much ram u have

[weary cypress]

if it's like BFV optimisation then i can't play it

[pulsar smelt]

really? I was playing bf4 and bfv... Noticed that my gpu usage is under 60% on bfv and up to 98% on bf4

high settings

[weary cypress]

Yeee, only because there's an issue with my system now XD opened an RMA for my 3060

[pulsar smelt]

oof

[weary cypress]

I get like 90fps on low

48 on Ultra

[pulsar smelt]

with 3060?

[weary cypress]

Yessir! Had people try and help me, but I can't work my head around why it's so shit

[unreal maple]

I run BF1 with the specs i listed and get 40 - 60 fps on 1440p max settings

[weary cypress]

That's not bad

[molten coral]

Ramsey RAM?

[pulsar smelt]

you need to try on warzone or bf5... is what ppl are saying to "test" if u will be able to run the next title

[weary cypress]

2x16 3000mhz ddr4

Not tried to OC ram but might try it and see how it goes

[vapid tulip]

is it actually 3000mhz tho?

[weary cypress]

yes

XMP is on

[vapid tulip]

bios updated?

That fucks things up sometimes

[weary cypress]

Yessir! Noticed 2 weeks ago my bios version was still 2017 so it's now 2021

I turned on XMP like an hour after i notice it was running 2333

[vapid tulip]

i was late a couple weeks and was getting BSOD like a mofo

[pulsar smelt]

but bf 2042 will be a challenge for everyone with a gtx series

[opaque saddle]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[weary cypress]

unlucky. But yeah it's updated, XMP is back on. Or so task manager said it's running at 3000mhz

[vapid tulip]

go to nvidia control panel and reset the settings

[weary cypress]

for the 3D ones or

[vapid tulip]

everything

[weary cypress]

alright
Sadly it's gonna have to wait until i get home D:

[vapid tulip]

Try setting power management to adaptive first if that doesnt work, then click the restore button under managing 3d settings

[weary cypress]

My power is set to High performance

it's also OC'd but that wouldn't be the issue

[vapid tulip]

what are average temps just using the PC

not playing anything

[weary cypress]

GPU normally idles below 40*C, it's a triple fan so only kicks in above 50

CPU idles between like 24-32 then under load highest it goes is 65

GPU doens't go above 60 under 99% load

[vapid tulip]

So its most likely a settings issue

[weary cypress]

Hopefully. I already contacted ASUS XD opened an RMA but I can cancel that if I need to

[molten coral]

What is your CPU?

It's the only thing I can think off without your GPU being fucked lmao

[weary cypress]

i7 8700k

4.7ghz

i can crank it up to 5

[molten coral]

Weird

[unreal maple]

i5 3570k at 4.2Ghz i can crack it up to 4.3Ghz

[supple bane]

its not faulty so they wont accept an RMA

[weary cypress]

well that's the thing, I don't know if it is either

But I can't think of anything else that could be causing it

I mean my PCIe slot is 3.0 but that wouldn't mess up performance that much

[supple bane]

we have already established that your hardware is performing perfectly fine with synthetics

so its some kind of software issue

id say try reinstalling windows maybe, if thats not too much of a pain

or put a fresh install of windows on a spare drive and try that

[weary cypress]

Well it kind of would be a pain, I can do it but that just means reinstalling everything on my OS drive

[supple bane]

do you have a spare hard drive anywhere ?

in an old laptop? anything

so you can disconnect all your current drives and put a fresh install on the spare one

[weary cypress]

I have 4 drives in my PC, It's on one of my SSD's so it wouldn't be much of an issue

Either that or I buy a new one xd

[supple bane]

i mean a spare drive that ISNT in your pc

[weary cypress]

Unfortunately no

I'll try re-slotting see if that does anything

[quick locust]

https://youtu.be/4mHq6Y7JSmg

[midnight crypt]

wow so worth buying

[supple bane]

Btw

[proud trellis]

that looks really nice

i wanted to get that type of desk but i didnt know if it would be to big so i got a smaller one.

what happened to your pc being in the desk though ?

[chrome skiff]

you like red? i enjoy blue i did the same thing with blue

[unreal maple]

my setup has my PC at the side below the desk and it has a case from 2001 i think but other than that its pretty similar

a bit messier but yeag

yeah

[latent light]

I had a i5-4690K @5.2 GHz with 1.28v, platinum bin

Sold it to my friend for $200 when I got a Ryzen 5 1600 when Ryzen first came out, was kind of a downgrade tbh but I wanted to be on new platform

[unreal maple]

@latent light wow 5.2Ghz would need some serious cooling

[latent light]

Nah just a Corsair 240mm aio

[unreal maple]

My current i5 can go to 5GHz its just i only have a 30$ fan off Amazon

[proud trellis]

i also like blue but mainly have my colours set to purple

[latent light]

There's this company called Thermalright that makes a big tower air cooler that performs like the Noctua D15 but only costs $45

It's just ugly tho

[unreal maple]

@latent light My case isn't very big, its from 2002 i believe and from a company who doesn't even exist anymore

'Time' if you are wondering

[latent light]

How wide is your case from where motherboard is seated to the opposite side

[clear harness]

Got my intel hd, ayyy

[stark epoch]

How can you handle the mic like that

isnt that bothering you with playing

[covert vale]

random question, how do you install a sata ssd as a an additional drive, do you do it through disk managment or control panel - system and security - storage spaces and create pool, im new to this.

[quick locust]

You install it then format it with disk management if it isn't already

[covert vale]

doesn`t show up

[quick locust]

Check if it shows in bios

If it doesn't check cables

[covert vale]

ok

[midnight crypt]

you do have to create a new pool though if its detected

[covert vale]

It’s in sata port 5 should it be in sata port 1?

[midnight crypt]

doesnt matter

[covert vale]

Ok

[midnight crypt]

although some mobos disable some sata ports

when you have like an m.2 drive

[covert vale]

Says it’s disabled

[midnight crypt]

well there you have it

[covert vale]

Now i have enabled it

Thanks for the help it worked now.

[latent light]

AMD Instinct MI200 compute GPU with 2x 128 CU dies and 128 GB HBM2e

Monster

[atomic jackal]

is high power a good psu brand?

https://www.teknobiyotik.com/high-power-600w-80-bronze-eco-aktif-pfc-yuksek-verimli-guc-kaynagi-hpe-600br-a12s.html?___store=tr was thinking of buying something like this

[wintry prairie]

No

[midnight crypt]

go for atleast an 80+ gold rating for your psu

[sinful mantle]

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/07/future-symmetrical-high-speed-internet-speeds

getting closer to 10Gbps symmetrical speeds

[weary cypress]

Managed to fix the FPS

For now

Card was set to “performance mode” but got more FPS on quiet mode

Don’t get how that makes sense but now I’m getting 3x my FPS in minecraft

Not tried BF5 yet.
In siege, averaging 330 FPS now

[sinful mantle]

yeah I found that shit out myself a couple years ago...makes sense though...it's because performance pushes the card and makes it work harder

[latent light]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-powered-dreamcast-gaming-pc

[prime jasper]

.

[prime jasper]

@wheat topaz you are a sussy baka

[wheat topaz]

😦

[weary cypress]

Even then, should it really be thermal throttled?

I haven’t messed with the card, it barely goes above 60*C and it works properly

[stable mountain]

why did you post that in like 5 channels

[weary cypress]

huh

[stable mountain]

oh not that, the thing lester posted

[atomic jackal]

too expensive

i wont pay a psu that has 1/3 of the price of my entire fucking setup

[weary cypress]

What is your budget?

if i may ask

gonna go have a look and convert it into your currency

@atomic jackal

[magic monolith]

What do I need to pay attention to, when I buy a UPS, besides surge and short-circuit protection?

[lofty light]

The size of the battery?

[near rune]

should i update to 21h1

[magic monolith]

Besides that?

[dry pike]

Do it when you have time to roll back if something don't work.

[fallow garden]

Yes

[ivory creek]

Just ordered a Roccat Vulkan TKL Pro keyboard, good for battlefield yes?

it got some linear optical switches

never had optical before

[storm osprey]

a functioning keyboard is all you need

[ivory creek]

im sporting a logitech k120 15euro keyboard right now

and it is awkward to type on, so i wanted to upgrade

i got the roccat on a huge sale

[supple bane]

A keyboard doesn't make you any better or worse at games as long as its functional

[ivory creek]

well i play some games where you have to mash the buttons like really fast, and sometimes bad keyboards doesnt register all my keystrokes

i hope this will

[supple bane]

Yeah but that's something I'd expect from a keyboard that's older than me

Anything that you buy new won't have any problems like that

[ivory creek]

i tried out a hyperx alloy elite 2 and it didnt register all my keys either, but maybe that ex was just defect. who knows

[storm osprey]

i assume that scenario is rare, but outside of being a keyboard snob, i would probably just buy cheap membrane keyboards

[midnight crypt]

watch out for key rollover

[storm osprey]

afaik theres a standard of like 10 key rollover which is more than enough for a vast majority of people

[midnight crypt]

there is no real "standard" there are some with only 5

[storm osprey]

i feel like even thats good for most people beside mmo rpg players

[quick locust]

If you want Full key rollover use ps/2

[ivory creek]

the alloy elite 2 claimed to have full n-key rollover. still didnt do it. roccat you better deliver!

[thick geode]

hello

ohh no slowmode

[plucky token]

[inland goblet]

[latent light]

RX 6600 XT gonna be around $379 MSRP, $100 lower than 6700XT

Meh

6600XT is slightly faster than last gen 5700XT but costs basically the same and uses less power lol

[digital hill]

@latent light Would the 6600xt be better then the 3060

[latent light]

Slightly faster, but less VRAM

[digital hill]

Ah so 4gb?

[latent light]

3060 is marketed as a 1440p card but 6600XT is marketed as "ultra 1080p"

6600XT is marginally faster still

150W max TDP

8-pin power on reference and most aftermarket, while few models use 6-pin cable

Small form factor models as well

Advertised boost of a whopping 2915MHz

Which is almost like 400MHz higher than what 6700XT was advertised lmao

[digital hill]

2915mhz jeez

[latent light]

Almost double the clockspeed of the last gen 5700XT

[digital hill]

wait it features 8gb of vram on there

[latent light]

[digital hill]

Drivers though

[latent light]

Drivers are good on RDNA2

[digital hill]

Ah 379 seems cheaper then 3060

[latent light]

Cheapest I ever seen a 3060 was about $410

Even though MSRP is 329

[digital hill]

Though scalpers are gonna get it first and make sure its value on ebay is 700-1000

[latent light]

RTX 3050Ti and 3050 are a huge fail

Only 4GB VRAM and slower than GTX 1660 Super

Might be as fast as normal 1660

[digital hill]

Didn't the 1660ti have 6gb of vram

[quick locust]

yes iirc

[marsh gull]

bruh lol looked at some benchmarks my 1650 super is almost as powerful as them

[quick locust]

usually mid end makes most sense imo

[marsh gull]

lol I have more fps in bf5 than the 3050 ti in ultra

this card is weird

[marsh gull]

for these times that's a really low price for that card

[quick locust]

[digital hill]

Helmet pc

[quick locust]

Lmao

[supple bane]

Is that a photo you took in your local pc store or did you find it on the internet ?

where ever it is, i wish our pc stores were that cool :(

ours just sell crappy OEM prebuilts from dell and such with ripoff prices. no parts or custom builds.

[quick locust]

From pcmr

Here is mostly average pcs

Though mostly laptops

When Amazon comes it might make a mess in that

[supple bane]

yep same, the only large computer company of similar scale to micro center is a place called pc world. and they sell all the pc things you could want online just never in store.

[quick locust]

Here they're more generalist

Not so specialized

[supple bane]

in store its 90% TV's, washing machines, action cameras, telescopes. things like that, and like a tiny gaming section with a few monitors and crappy prebuilts

there is a small shop near me thats cool tho. more what i would like, dope looking builds with loads of parts on the walls, cool stations you can just go and play games on etc. but thats just a tiny shop not a national company

[quick locust]

Yeah same

Most are like above

[supple bane]

What do yall think is causing this rattling type sound

Because its driving me nucking futs

The options are hard drives, aio pump, case fans, gpu fans or power supply

the camera doesnt pick it up very well. but its very audible irl and annoying

[cinder goblet]

Did u try r/pcmr?

[visual quail]

psu?

the sound is almost identical to mine but more louder

[lofty light]

Sounds like a bearing that's dodge from what I can hear

Defs stick your head around and hear exactly where it's coming from

Could also be air in the pump, easy to test by tilting the PC when it's running

[visual quail]

doesnt explode equals just fine

[lofty light]

But annoying means that's the worst thing ever

[near rune]

@supple bane open the side panel and listen then

Most likely a fan bearing though

It happens to all fans at some point

[ionic hearth]

Great case! Red and white look awesome together

[supple bane]

i should have mentioned this but the sound is very intermittent

some times its there, some times its not

which leads me to think its either the psu fan or the hdd's.

because neither should spin when not under load

[molten coral]

HDD

I had this a while ago and it’s almost the exact same sound

[molten bramble]

Sounds like a bearing.

[toxic zealot]

https://youtu.be/5XwjYsC5jxY

[molten bramble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arcGebjgM_k I might just have to pick one up.

[midnight crypt]

they arent any better than a 5800x

[molten bramble]

You might want to watch the video where he compares them to other processers towards the end and explains the tradeoff is actually a good value for the price.

[midnight crypt]

well yeah the only redeeming quality is the higher core count and more pcie lanes

other than that

theyre very meh

[supple bane]

could probably get 2nd gen threadripper for a similar price

i didnt watch the video so i dont know his points

i found im actually saturating all the PCIE lanes on my cpu. my cpu has 20 and i have a gpu using 16 and a usb add in card using another 4. plus i believe sata uses some and i have 3 sata drives so. i might be losing some performance somewhere

[quick locust]

sata is on chipset lanes

but yeah TR and HEDT in general have way more lanes obviously

[prime jasper]

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-urkel-family-matters-nerd-alert-geek-gif-14265266

[haughty ridge]

What app do you guts use to measure the cpu/gpu usage/temp, clockspeed and all that good stuff besides MSI Afterburner?

[molten coral]

Open hardware monitor

or hwinfo

[molten bramble]

You talking about benchmarking or are you talking about just identifying?

If the latter, HWInfo/CPU-Z.

[molten coral]

There are so many programs nowadays that you could be using for it.

[molten bramble]

If the former, there could be any number of benchmarks depending on what you're attempting to measure.

[supple bane]

Hwinfo is the most diverse and detailed

Pretty much If its measurable, it will be on there

[haughty ridge]

Does it have an in-game overlay?

[supple bane]

I don't think so

Use msi after burner (rivertuner statistics) if you want an overlay

[ivory creek]

afterburner is really easy to use to oc your gpu with aswell

[quick locust]

hwinfo supports rtss

has for long

so you can use it with it for osd

[modern gull]

I didn't know that, i just use afterburner. Thanks i'll check this out now 😛

[sharp epoch]

Will 2042 support 8k?

[latent light]

Yuh

[proud trellis]

i really want the spec requirements to come out

[latent light]

Nvidia AD102 and AMD RDNA3 should be able to handle 8K gaming imo

[supple bane]

your best hope is it will come with the extended gameplay later this month

[supple bane]

current gen can handle 8k though

[latent light]

Not at consistent 60 fps

[supple bane]

depends on the game

something like cyberskunk or rdr2 no. but games like bfv or r6, yes

although you wouldnt play those games at 8k i guess

[proud trellis]

i would only ever really play a singleplayer game on a very high res

[supple bane]

well currently only TV's have access to 8k. so it will be couch games

[proud trellis]

i feel like you wouldnt be able to really get the full experience of a high res on a comp game such as COD because your just running around shooting enemies you dont really have time to sit back and look at the graphics but on a singleplayer game such as FC5 or RDR2 you would

[supple bane]

i hate it when game companies do this

recommended cpu "i7"

gee thanks

may as well just tell me that the recommended cpu is to have a cpu installed

[midnight crypt]

imagine playing on the oldest i7

13 years old cpu

[proud trellis]

its an i7 it will run it

[visual quail]

ive never seen a game have a 1080 as recommended

[supple bane]

There are plenty of games that recommend a 1080 or more

[visual quail]

never saw one

maybe cyberpunk and crysis remastered

[supple bane]

I think flight simulator reccomends a 2080 super

[visual quail]

i need to check this

[supple bane]

Although flight simulator is the most demanding game on the market atm so

[visual quail]

recommended for flight simulator is a 970

[supple bane]

No

No way

[quick locust]

metro exodus enhanced has a 2070 and 6800xt as recommended

[visual quail]

a game with the whole world on it is 111gb but a call of duty update is 40

[supple bane]

2080 sorry

[visual quail]

but why so much

is it for ultra?

res?

[supple bane]

Because shits intensive lmao

[quick locust]

thats their ideal not recommended

but flight sim runs poorly

[supple bane]

It does

I have a 2070 and r5 2600 and it maxes everything out

[quick locust]

i dunno how they'll make it run ok on the series S

[supple bane]

Vram, ram, gpu, and core 0

All maxed

Its like ark or crisis

Won't run nice for another 5 years lol

The recommended gpu for ark on ultra was a titan x lmao

[visual quail]

what the hell man

[supple bane]

Imagine the recommended gpu for ultra settings on a new game being a 3090

[visual quail]

any UE5 game

[supple bane]

The titan x is equivalent to a 1070, so now it's not too bad but back in 2015 it would have melted rigs

[visual quail]

perhaps 5-10 years from now a game will recommend a 3090. and in 20 years the minimum will be a 3090

[supple bane]

20 years is a bit of a push lol

[visual quail]

660 released 2012? thats the lowest for games released like 4 years later not sure if thats a good example or not

[supple bane]

20 years ago a supercomputer would be slower than what we have in a pc

[visual quail]

going back in time giving nasa a 16gb ram stick and they can build flying cars

[supple bane]

Yeah according to Wikipedia the earth simulator super computer of 2004 the size of a huge room is about as fast as a 3090

That's not accounting for the cpu of that pc either

[visual quail]

crazy to think about

[supple bane]

Yep, we've come a long way in just 30 years

we have gone from 100 gigaflops in 1990,s to 400,000,000 gigaflops in 2021

[quick locust]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsofts-incomplete-printnightmare-patch-fails-to-fix-vulnerability/

[latent light]

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-rumored-to-launch-in-august-for-dollar399/

https://videocardz.com/newz/cryptominers-now-selling-geforce-rtx-3060-cards-for-as-low-as-270-usd-after-mining-crackdown-in-china

[midnight crypt]

i wouldnt buy one

[pulsar smelt]

allergic, whats your gpu?

[quick locust]

6600xt launch feels so late

but we'll see how it does

once people can actually get them

[lofty light]

Ex miner GPUs are often in fairly good nick as they run them at lower power

[latent light]

6600XT should be 299 not 399 lmao

[coarse nimbus]

low power but 100% use?

[burnt rose]

All I want is a damm 1660 cheap

[quaint sleet]

flight sim isnt demanding it just runs like shit

[worthy moon]

wait nvm

link dosent even work

;-;

and wrong channel

[molten bramble]

It runs fine.

[quaint sleet]

lmao

20fps is fine

for flight sim sure

not exactly impressive

[molten bramble]

Get better hardware.

[quaint sleet]

i have a 3070.

msfs is limited by the sim

[molten bramble]

Even on a 1050Ti I never got 20FPS. Something is wrong with your shit.

LOL

[quaint sleet]

LOL

[molten bramble]

Might wanna rephrase that.

[quaint sleet]

on minimum settings

[digital hill]

I mean also could be your running it on max settings

[molten bramble]

I'll give you a moment to retract that.

[digital hill]

But it seems to be ram or cpu if your having 20fps

[molten bramble]

Keep it up, that hole needs digging.

[digital hill]

Not all sims run bad

[quaint sleet]

ye farming sim

[digital hill]

Euro truck simulator 2, american truck simulator runs fine

Could be because flight simulator renders a 3d image which when high res = bad framerate

[molten bramble]

@supple blaze Watch yourself, make wise decisions going forward.

[molten bramble]

It has everything to do with their poor system specifications.

The game runs fine.

[digital hill]

ah

[molten bramble]

I've been with the title since I was a tester for it.

[digital hill]

I do get bad fps but that could be me playing on high to max settings

on a 1660ti

[molten bramble]

Initially it had hiccups early-on, but those were resolved in primarily November.

I played it on a 1050Ti, 1660Ti and a RTX 3080. I've never, not once, gotten 20FPS.

[digital hill]

cpu?

[molten bramble]

Likely the bottleneck for him.

[astral merlin]

what's a bottleneck?

[molten bramble]

If you look at say a bottle of Coca-Cola, you'll notice that the neck tapers to a small opening.

That means there is only so much throughput that can happen of pouring the fluid at any given time.

The same thing is true for computer components.

Bottlenecks can occur due to hardware capabilities or deficiencies.

Those can restrict the flow of data, much like the fluid in the bottle.

[astral merlin]

ah, so it's like having a really strong GPU but a really weak CPU

[molten bramble]

Pretty much, though that's not necessarily a bad thing depending on how the software is designed.

Some games don't put a lot of load on the CPU while others do.

[astral merlin]

then the other way around

[digital hill]

I might be bottlenecking my hdd maybe

5400rpm is not speed

[molten bramble]

The software can also contribute to bottlenecks. If we take Cities : Skylines for example, it runs on a very shitty version of Unity.

It was poorly coded in the first place and the development team cannot fix/enhance it much better than it is.

It does very little to take advantage of any GPU and instead relies on CPU and Memory.

[digital hill]

True sr2 would fit into this context since its bascially not taking advance of any gpu at all I heard

maybe some but doesn't matter it really runs terrible throwing even top of the line gaming pc at it.

[molten bramble]

When you're trying to play modded with custom assets, you have to significantly increase the Memory of the system to accommodate the additional custom assets. So, because of a shitty software design, the hardware system suffers a severe bottleneck if you're not running 32-64Gb of Memory.

[digital hill]

That's a lot of ram

which is very costly

[smoky magnet]

Blue men talk

[opaque saddle]

[visual quail]

they definitely used them up too much

[marsh gull]

honestly get a 1650 super instead its almost as powerful and costs wayyy less

[visual quail]

1660 good

better

the extra $100 is worth it

[supple bane]

Atm you shouldn't get either

Even the regular 1650 is going for more than what I paid for my rtx 2070

[ivory creek]

people sell gtx 1070 second hand today for the price i bought mine new at release years ago

crazy stuff

i got a really good deal tho

[molten bramble]

I've got the 1660Ti just sitting here next to me and it's been a solid card previous.

[wary saddle]

guys help me

im trying to copy paste a battlefield 4 emblem

[molten bramble]

Likely not--miners are looking for efficiency. They undervolt the cards, so they're likely not cooked through too bad.

[molten bramble]

Sounds like a topic for #battlefield-legacy-titles ?

[wary saddle]

oh

k

[supple bane]

its already been proven that gpu's dont loose performance as they age

[wary saddle]

thanks

[supple bane]

one day they just conk out, its not a gradual thing

LTT did a video where he compared a gtx 480 that had been heavily gamed on all its life to a 480 he somehow got brand new out of box and they were identical

[ivory creek]

isnt the biggest worry about some component on the card shorting out after being used too much

rather than losing performance

[supple bane]

not necessarily shorting out

but capacitors etc have a lifetime, once that lifetime is reached they just die

[ivory creek]

yeah

im worried that my gtx 1070 will die soon

[supple bane]

no

[ivory creek]

ive had it overclocked since release

to the max

[supple bane]

a 1070 still has years under its belt

id say it will work for another 5 years at least

[ivory creek]

ah nice

[supple bane]

you might be getting that idea from components lifting up off the pcb

which does happen

parts can come "un-soldered" just by general vibrations and wear and tear.

and that can often be fixed by sticking it in the oven

[ivory creek]

damn

i thought that was just a rumor

[supple bane]

nope

it melts all the solder on the pcb and reattaches any components that may have come loose

[ivory creek]

yeah

you dont want to have it in there for too long at too high temp tho or the plastic might melt, right?

[supple bane]

although it should only be used as a last ditch attempt to fix a card.

you dont put the entire card in there

just the pcb

it will melt the plastic cooler yes

[ivory creek]

hehe

oh well

im waiting for my new keyboard to arrive, the delivery company should be here in 2 to 7 hours

[supple bane]

you also shouldnt put it in your regular oven, if you are to do it you need to find a cheap table top oven on ebay.

gpu's contain harmful chemicals, not something you want around food

[ivory creek]

yeah

i was also gonna ask that, cant you harm the owen

[supple bane]

my gpu has a big warning saying "cancer and reproductive harm" on the back of the box

[ivory creek]

those cost way more than a cheap gpu

damn

[ivory creek]

cool

[unique tapir]

did anyones pc ever shut down while playing BFV?

(PSU IS FINE)

[rain perch]

I hope my 3070ti and i7 can run this game on high with decent fps

[latent light]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ceo-chip-shortages-to-last-till-years-end-but-supply-should-improve-w-every-quarter/

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6HJi0iqYbw

[neon current]

we dont have the official specs yet but the 3070ti is a great card

im more interested tho in how much space it will take up

most of the recent bf games have been 80-90 gigs

[rain perch]

I got 11tb so i should be fine

I'm guessing since it's MP only it'll take up less space

[storm osprey]

dont we though?

[neon current]

nope we dont have official word on specs yet

[storm osprey]

thats from nvidias website

[neon current]

all we have is really 1 quote

"“EA and DICE’s partnership with NVIDIA ensures the ultimate PC experience powered by next-gen GeForce RTX gaming technologies, the AI-powered performance boost of NVIDIA DLSS and NVIDIA Reflex’s low latency mode.” - Electronic Arts"

[storm osprey]

ohhh sorry, i thought you were talking about 3070 ti specs

[neon current]

Nah i was talkin generally

we dont know what the official specs are

we only know about the partnership with nvidia and BF

[molten bramble]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[latent light]

I still think the 3070 should of been the full 6144 CUDA while 3070Ti should of been a cut-down 3080

[storm osprey]

i was expecting the Ti versions to have more vram

[latent light]

Only the 3080Ti got more VRAM sadly

[turbid verge]

they dont have much choice either

the 3080 was either 8GB or 16GB
3070 8GB or 16GB
3080TI is either 12GB or 24GB

same with the rest

[latent light]

High resolution photogrammetry textures in next-gen games are gonna utilize more VRAM

[turbid verge]

its not like you can shove (insert the VRAM number here)

photogrammetry is already used

been used for ages now

even at high res

and on consoles too

[latent light]

Yes but they are pushing for extreme detail

Photorealism

12-16K resolution textures

[turbid verge]

there's always ways to trick the computer even with high res things

[latent light]

I give it 2 years for the 10GB VRAM in the 3080 to become redundant for 4K gaming

[turbid verge]

and photogrammetry has become a better way to build levels compared to the traditional ways os placing assets one by one or just put a texture on a plane and manipulate the terrain

I mean think most users with a 3080 don't even play at 4k I believe

[storm osprey]

i do, its one of the reasons i bought a 3080

[rain bolt]

can i ask here how to fix my btf3 launcher? it wont launch

[latent light]

I think the 10GB of the 3080 will be fine for 4K from now to when RTX 4000 series comes out but I'd look to 3080Ti or better for 4K

That 12GB gonna make a difference in the long run tbh

Plus the higher bus width

[finite mica]

12GB of VRAM is also a lovely addition if you want to use your rig as a workstation

[latent light]

Remember when leaks were suggesting a 3080 Ti with 20GB

[turbid verge]

yeh but trusting leaks is getting hope for something you might never get

😛

[naive roost]

those were good days

[quick locust]

not using clamshell for vram is a lot cheaper to do

so its pretty logical what they did

20 would still require clamshell so there wouldnt be as much price reduction

[latent light]

MSRP $699 for 10GB vs $1199 for 12GB

[quick locust]

ye

profit go brr

[digital hill]

16gb vram on amd goes 999

[latent light]

RX 6800 has 16GB VRAM at $579 MSRP

[prime jasper]

2080 ti is better than the 3090 ti

[proud trellis]

ok

[coarse nimbus]

does amd launch a card with less than 16 gb of stonky vram?

[quick locust]

6600xt

[prime jasper]

Im in desperate need of help. For the past 2 months whenever i launch certain games i get cut off mid game by the drivers or i dont even get to launch the game because of them. My system runs an rx570 8gb and a ryzen 5 3600 wich can run all the games im trying to. I have tried all possible explenations ive installed and reinstalled and wiped every single driver amd has to offer me and i still get the same bloody result. Some of these games i could run months ago but now im unable to. I really need help.
i get no error code, ive screenshotted the error message i get after the game crashes, if you could send me a DM help me solve the problem it would mean the world to me

[dry pike]

Have you reset Windows and just started over?

[near rune]

Yeah a fresh install

[prime jasper]

been there done that

didnt fix anything

[dry pike]

Assuming you did the fresh install correctly then troubleshooting is all about ruling things out. If you have spare hardware you can use to replace and test then that would be the next thing I would do.

[midnight crypt]

I would check the ram

[molten bramble]

Sounds like a hardware issue. Either disk or memory.

[quick locust]

thats a lot of updates

[neat stag]

anyone here know how to setup a BF4 server?

i want to rent one but i dont know how to set the settings

for example to disallowed claymores etc

like these admin plugins with !stats or !rules

and then disabled things like claymore or specific weapons

[marsh gull]

you sure bout' that?

[quick locust]

It's better than something that doesn't exist yes

[quick locust]

Intel DG1

around a 1030, but this is LP and not the mid/high end desktop

DG2 will be much more performant

[supple bane]

so they say

we'll see

my guess is like 1070 at most. but like sure thats very capable of gaming but its still a million miles away from amd or nvidia

[storm rune]

do you guys think that r5 3600 will be enough for 144pfs gaming in bf 2042? casue i don't think so and im thinking about upgrading

[supple bane]

no. one. knows.

[storm rune]

yea that might be the problem

[zealous river]

It probably will be tbh

R6 3600 is a very modest cpu. Just back it up with a good gpu

[granite wagon]

I'm upgrading to an i7 10700k + a GTX 1070 Ti I already had. I think I'm covered for 1080p, right? (I also use the PC for work)

[marsh gull]

yeah you can even do 1440p 60 hz

[granite wagon]

Nice!

[static niche]

My pc always sets on fire while playing bfv on max settings, is this normal? RTX 3080, i7-10700k, 32gb ram

[proud trellis]

what temperatures do you get ?

[static niche]

it says 65-70 but feels way more

i have the lianli o11 dynamic with 9x fans at 2300 rpm and the 3x fans on the gpu is set to max

[verbal cliff]

Bruh I haven’t raised my fan speed from 50% yet

Max fan speed damn

[proud trellis]

are you using msi afterburner im guessing ?

[static niche]

for the gpu yes, icue for the fans

[proud trellis]

msi afterburner is pretty accurate i think

what temp does it say when your not playing anything ?

[void saffron]

Oh hi mark

[latent light]

Lol hi

[void saffron]

Never thought you'd be here

But BF is a pretty big Franchise after all

[latent light]

Been here for years

[dry pike]

3080 is a hot card, 65-70c is to be extected if you play BFV

[pale quartz]

even though the 3080 has a VRAM thermal issue due to GDDR6X a range of 65 to 70 degrees is perfectly acceptable and isn't in the "too high" range

once you start hitting a peak delta of 80+ degrees you should be concerned, until then it's perfectly fine

[pale quartz]

that's probably because it is higher than that temperature, temperatures are only reported on the surface area of a GPU that contains a sensor, notably the core, any VRM configuration in the card and the VRAM, but other than that the outskirts of the card will typically be much hotter than what's reported

it generally isn't a concern, materials are built in a card to withstand extreme temperatures

[dry pike]

that's what I'm saying

[latent light]

Honestly when GDDR6X is at <100C for long gaming periods it should be fine for several years to come

But concerning once it gets around 105C

G6X has higher temp limit than G6

[pale quartz]

it's generally down to how terrible micron are at fabricating GDDR in general rather than the tech

[latent light]

I honestly wish HBM would come back to consumer GPUs

It will with MCM GPUs

[pale quartz]

GDDR6 micron-rev modules on the 2080ti were so badly fabricated that they set on fire due to pushing the voltage current so hard through the card

ehh

don't be so sure MCM doesn't require HBM

[latent light]

Intel APUs on Raptor Lake very likely have an HBM3 stack on SoC

[pale quartz]

that's because of how intel GPUs are built in general though

GDDR is much hotter than HBM and intel can't afford to push the thermal boundary especially for APUs which is why it uses HBM

MCM GPUs 90% wont require HBM on Radeon anyways due to how the IFC works

[latent light]

Nvidia is headed in the higher power consumption direction too

[pale quartz]

ah yes Samsung fabrication nodes not too surprised by that

[latent light]

Samsung 5nm is pretty good

[pale quartz]

anything to cut down on base cost even at the expense of temperatures hence why the coolers for ampere are massively overbuilt

[latent light]

I feel like Ampere Next is gonna use Samdung 5nm

[pale quartz]

it is, but it's still nothing compared to TSMC

[latent light]

Samsung 5nm is only like ~20% less dense than TSMC 5nm iirc

It's a lot better than TSMC 6nm

[pale quartz]

Samsung nodes are great for fabricating low TDP spectrum parts, aka exynos anything else involving high scalability is where you run into problems

hence why ampere is such a mess with power consumption

[latent light]

Nvidia and TSMC aren't good friends either

[pale quartz]

also why Nvidia are already buying out TSMC capacity

[dry pike]

I'm generally annoyed at the amount of heat new PCs spew out. Running cool should be more in focus again, been too long.

[latent light]

Nvidia tried to leverage Samsung's cheaper 8nm node against TSMC 7nm in order to make TSMC offer them a cheaper deal

TSMC wasn't having it

[pale quartz]

correct and that massively backfired

hence why they're buying capacity at whatever cost TSMC deems worthy

Nvidia cannot afford another ampere temperature situation for the next generation especially with RDNA3

[latent light]

I suppose you could say TSMC is best friends with Apple, AMD and Tesla

[pale quartz]

ehh depends what you're meaning really

[latent light]

RDNA3 is a monster

[pale quartz]

generally new nodes have a higher defect rate hence why they offer "discounts" to AMD apple etc for using them, it isn't necessarily because they buy the most capacity

AMDs situation is slightly different as zen has been used entirely by TSMC so there is a mutual goal for node development there

[digital tundra]

@fallen harbor do you know any argentine store to buy steam digital gift cards?

[latent light]

Fyi, Navi 31 with 160CU has a TBP of around 450W

Could use more than 2x8-pin

[pale quartz]

I saw the specifications for Navi 31 a while ago

not surprising if anything any TBP under 500W is a considerable achievement

[latent light]

I heard high power consumption and very high performance lol

[pale quartz]

that's the cost you bring with MCM GPUs in general

[latent light]

Heavily focused on machine learning

3D stacked Infinity Cache too btw

[short pier]

ay yo

that depends on the rest of your setup

[storm rune]

1080p but im not even getting stable 144fps in bf5

[short pier]

what is your gpu

I have the same cpu and no problems with BFV

[storm rune]

rtx 3070 msi gaming x

[pale quartz]

RDNAs infinity cache massively depends accelerating the clock so a dedicated AC was kind of expected

[short pier]

have you checked cpu usage and gpu usage in game?

[latent light]

1+GB of Infinity Cache is definitely possible

[storm rune]

ahh the cpu usage, sometimes up to 95% 🙂

[latent light]

Imagine if you had so much cache that it replaced VRAM

[short pier]

Oh damn.

[storm rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ISpb9Pk5ao

[short pier]

I never get past 80

[storm rune]

heres an example

[short pier]

most of the time not even past 70

[pale quartz]

would actually be a terrible thing

[storm rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7OBgjglPs one more

[dry pike]

6 cores is perfect for BFV, 3070 should be more than enough as well, I do recommend disabling DXR (RTX) though, doesn't really add anything much to the BFV multiplayer experience expect lower and less stable fps imo.

[storm rune]

i dont have RT

RT is useless.

[short pier]

are you overclocking to 4.2?

[storm rune]

yea it's overclocked to 4.2 ghz

with no problems

[pale quartz]

directstorage and PCIe BAR would refuse to work if the cache replaced GDDR entirely

[short pier]

I let the boost do the work

on my 3600

[latent light]

Maybe they could use GDDR as back up

[pale quartz]

nah there's no point for that

[storm rune]

https://imgur.com/6cBPc4r pretty high ngl.

[pale quartz]

cache is great for accelerating computation, it isn't great at holding assets

[latent light]

That can change

[short pier]

And really i would increase the resolution to 1440p with a 3070

[pale quartz]

and if you used it in place of GDDR you're more or less saying goodbye to what a GPU is to begin with

it becomes a computational accelerator not a GPU

[storm rune]

i don't care about the res, i care about the fps

[short pier]

to take strain off the cpu

The fps won't change much

your gpu usage will increase

[storm rune]

and i don't have 1440p monitor

so i rather buy a new cpu than monitor

[short pier]

Increase resolution scale in BFV to 137%

1440p equivalent

[storm rune]

just to get more fps, in 1080p the fps increase a lot

[pale quartz]

generally the answer is no

[storm rune]

While im seeing vidoes that r5 5600x performs way better than i7 10700k and a little worse than i7 11700k

[short pier]

I guess a 3070 might be pushing the limit for a 3600

[pale quartz]

frostbite was built with core scalability in mind for the iteration over to BF4>

[short pier]

If you can upgrade you should

[pale quartz]

a 3600x with 12 threads isn't surprising to be bound considering its moderate IPC

[pale quartz]

it outperforms both

[short pier]

otherwise i would increase the resolution to 1440p

[pale quartz]

rocket lake is a mess and nobody should touch it with a 10 foot pole

[storm rune]

yea

[short pier]

because you're not playing at a high refreshrate

on a 3600

[storm rune]

im playing at 144hz 😭

[short pier]

with a 3070*

[storm rune]

100 fps hurts my eyes

[pale quartz]

you're looking at a 10900k/5800x/5900x generally speaking

[storm rune]

the game becames smooth when its more than 120 fps

[pale quartz]

a 5600x won't cut it for BFV

[storm rune]

what do you mean by "won't cut it" (im sorry im not a native)

[pale quartz]

won't cut it as you will be thread bound

[short pier]

what?

[storm rune]

so 5600x wont be enough even for bf2042?

[pale quartz]

8 cores is a mandatory requirement for 144 frames consistently on BFV

[short pier]

Huh.

[pale quartz]

yes

it will "work"

not what you expect it to work at though

[storm rune]

that's tough

[short pier]

Alright what are you expecting

[dry pike]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[short pier]

So are you saying core count is all that matters in BF?

[pale quartz]

no

it matters a great deal of course it's not the be all and end all

[storm rune]

so i would need i9 10900k or r7 5800x to play it well? lol

that's pretty weird

[short pier]

I don't believe you need 8 cores, to run at a target framerate

[pale quartz]

single thread IPC is materially unimportant for games like BFV compared to multi core systems

frostbite isn't an old engine

it was built with higher cores in mind

[latent light]

You could theoretically have 4.3GB of L3 V-cache on 64-core Epyc Milan lmao

[pale quartz]

would be quite something

[pale quartz]

there's believe then there's running at 144 frames consistently on something like BFV

[short pier]

You can do that with a 5600x

[pale quartz]

you can, yes

[latent light]

I really wanna see a Zen 3 refresh Threadripper with 3D cache and 8-channel memory

[pale quartz]

but see above

just because you "can" doesn't mean it will

[short pier]

it's hardware

[pale quartz]

TR refresh on zen 3? likely but not with 3d stacked cache

[latent light]

Would be cool

[pale quartz]

yes..?

[latent light]

But too powerful for a single generation leap

[pale quartz]

it isn't necessarily, that

for TR on zen 3 with 3d stacked AMD would need to push any release back to where zen 4 is approaching release

[latent light]

Don't think 64 cores would benefit from having over 1 gigabyte of L3 cache

[pale quartz]

which doesn't mean a whole lot of sense

[short pier]

What does that even mean. If it can it will

[latent light]

AMD does work magic sometimes tho

[storm rune]

well we need to wait for beta

[pale quartz]

because CPU utilisation is a massive variable dependent on what's going on at any one time

it is not a GPU load

hence why engines are built for multi core systems

[short pier]

Alright so if it hits a 1% low of 143 then it can't?

[pale quartz]

you can run a 3090 at max VRAM utilisation if you stuff the buffer pipe, will it necessarily use it all? nope

[short pier]

is that your parameters?

[pale quartz]

no..

[latent light]

https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-series-s-clip-on-screen-basically-turns-it-into-a-gaming-laptop/

[pale quartz]

if you read what has gone on you will see they are thread bound

[proud trellis]

https://www.razer.com/gaming-pc-accessories/razer-raptor-27-vesa-mount/RC21-01730100-R3M1 so i have just noticed that my monitor can actually be put on a monitor stand that is coming out soon, but it has to be a custom razer one which is 100 pound

[pale quartz]

GPUs and core counts for framerate scale linearly

[latent light]

Memory bandwidth plays a role too

[pale quartz]

it is not possible for a GPU to push higher framerates without a raw core clock increase when your threads are entirely saturated

[short pier]

I'm talking about whether a 6 core cpu like a 5600x is capable of running BFV at 144 fps with a suitable GPU

[pale quartz]

the same issue still applies as above

zen 3 has around a 20% increase in raw IPC that issue is still there

[latent light]

Do you think a 5600X will run games fine in 2030?

[pale quartz]

the higher GPU you go especially in CUDA the worse it becomes

[short pier]

you guys are funny

[pale quartz]

6 cores is no longer enough and hasn't been generally since zen 2 came out

[latent light]

6 cores and 12 threads is perfectly ok

[pale quartz]

hence why the 10900k has 10 cores and not 8

[short pier]

ok

why does the 11900k have 8

[pale quartz]

because of intel temperature issues

[storm rune]

because intel sucks

[short pier]

thats bs

[pale quartz]

10 cores was targeted for rocket lake it exceeded maximum threshold temperatures

[short pier]

that's actual bs

[pale quartz]

that's why the 10900k outperforms the 11900k lol

[storm rune]

so tell me deco, if r5 5600x outperforms i7 11700k why would it be bad