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#technology
prime jasper
toxic zealot
they need to get specific model for a laptop
molten coral
@supple bane
prime jasper
they need to get specific model for a laptop
I guess I’ll send the laptop to asus after summer class
Hopefully i have enough saved
supple bane
<@!440595567291400213>
I meant to see what the temperature got to 😋
molten coral
oh let me run it again 
prime jasper
@toxic zealot anyways thanks for discussing about my faulty gpu
molten coral
@supple bane
supple bane
77c. That's not too bad
Especially at 140w power draw
My cpu draws 100w and my 240mm rad has it at 65c.
So its basically 240mm rad performance
molten coral
The 4.3 is just an auto oc within the bios.
Wonder how far I can push it
But on the other hand I've never overclocked in my life so have to look up how to do it
supple bane
Its pretty simple lol
Use ryzen master to start with
Its safer and more straightforward
If you push it too far in bios and can't post you will need to reset bios. If you go to far in ryzen master it will crash and start right back up because it requires you to re-apply the profile
If you download ryzen master, I think you could do 4.6ghz at 1.35v. Although I don't know anything about zen 3 overclocking so you should look into it first
molten coral
I'll have a look into it
So if I would apply and test it would basically test the system and if it crashes i'm fine?
supple bane
Yes
I'm going to tell you this. You must find the max safe voltage for your cpu on Google. And try to avoid going above it
The two ways to damage something with overclocking is temperature and voltage
You could put the frequency to 100 ghz, it will insta crash but no harm will come to the chip, but too much voltage will decrease its life span
Most people say that 1.35v Is the max safe voltage for ryzen. Some say 1.4 and some say 1.45. So as long as you keep the voltage below 1.35 you are perfectly safe
molten coral
Ngl this all seems like a pain in the ass but I'll look into later this week.
supple bane
Honestly it's not
I'm just making everything really long 😁
To summarise, don't put the voltage above 1.35v, and you just raise the frequency till it crashes then you are done
I mean you also don't need to overclock lol, it's not like you are strapped for performance. I just think it's fun
Generally ryzen doesn't benefit too well from overclocking anyway 🤷♂️
To provide proof, my pc id guess has hard crashed at least 30 times from Me going too far. And my cpu still performs number 1 out of 100 identical cpus lol, so its safe
ember lark
360mm
You should easily be able to push 4.6GHz all core on that with a 360mm AIO
I've been able to get 4.65GHz all core on my 5950x with a 360mm AIO with temps topping out around 85C
latent light
My brother has 5950x as well, peak frequency boost hit for single core was 5185 mhz
leaden swift
Kinda a waste getting a 5900x and a 360mm AIO and not overclocking it
lofty light
I mean it auto clocks up on temp
leaden swift
but then again, overclocking is all done for you nowadays
lofty light
And it's got almost no overclocking room on the ryzen cores
plucky token
Was able to hit 5,2 all core on my 9900k once. But i backed up to 5,1. And now that my AIO makes problems with not showing up anymore....
modern gull
Was able to hit 5,2 all core on my 9900k once. But i backed up to 5,1. And now t...
Only problem i have a the moment is VRM temps
modern gull
Mhm they sure can, but when i am using my cpu for compiling etc... it gets well over 100c
110 ish
quick locust
Low end board I guess
modern gull
Cpu isnt even intended for this board
It got an bios update
Been looking for a new motherboard actually
plucky token
Only problem i have a the moment is VRM temps
Which card?
modern gull
Which card?
Card?
modern gull
plucky token
Need to wake up
modern gull
Can easily happen 😛
quick locust
plucky token
Which cpu?
plucky token
I got myself an asus rog strix z390f
Same cpu
The thing is, they are rare and expensive
Atleast this model
modern gull
But is it any good tho?
plucky token
Got no problems with it
plucky token
current clock is 5ghz which is the normal boost clock
modern gull
Ah i see, i see
plucky token
and since my AIO starts doing funky things, iam not able to change it's speed and i don't know on what speed it is currently running
modern gull
Oh that sounds scary
plucky token
i'am happy that she is still running
modern gull
I would be too 
supple bane
my vrm's stay scarily cool considering its a cheaper b450 board
thats oc'ed with the cpu drawing 80w. so its not crazy high, probably 3700x ish power draw levels
midnight crypt
Keep in mind those numbers are probably not completely accurate
supple bane
not 100% accurate or not, 50c is cool for a vrm temp on an overclocked cpu lol
quick locust
80W is not much anyway
supple bane
ik
quick locust
i can draw double that with my 8700K
supple bane
like i said, probably stock 3700x power draw
its a 65w tdp chip, so with some boosting i imagine it would be about that
prime jasper
guys what limits gpu overclocking
is it always heat?
If you overclock it too much, and it crashes, is it just heat?
stable mountain
heat, power, the chip itself just not being stable
prime jasper
going to update my graphics driver, wish me luck
ionic hearth
going to update my graphics driver, wish me luck
what gpu?
prime jasper
5700xt
prime jasper
heat, power, the chip itself just not being stable
thank you sir
ionic hearth
If you overclock it too much, and it crashes, is it just heat?
like cpu, heat and stability, as being already said
supple bane
guys what limits gpu overclocking
its pretty much always power limits
the higher you can crank this slider in msi afterburner
the further you can push an oc generally
cards have hard set limits at bios level iirc. for my card its 14%
ionic hearth
My old GTX 550 Ti died 'cause of burnt power system. Maybe it will work if I'll replace broken chips
supple bane
probably not worth the effort
weak girder
My old GTX 550 Ti died 'cause of burnt power system. Maybe it will work if I'll ...
buy a new gpu 
supple bane
whilst possible, its very hard to replace surface mount components on a pcb without specialist tools
weak girder
Already did this in 2017
that was a long time ago
supple bane
unless you are a pro at soldering
ionic hearth
whilst possible, its very hard to replace surface mount components on a pcb with...
Yeah, I know, this is a case of curiosity, not the real one
ionic hearth
that was a long time ago
Yeah, 1060 still rocks, but for now I'm looking for 3090
supple bane
yeah its very possible. you just got to find the correct capacitor/resistor that blew and take the old one off and solder the new one one, without bridging any gaps or removing pads on accident
weak girder
Yeah, 1060 still rocks, but for now I'm looking for 3090
dont go for the 3090
pretty useless
go for the 3080
ionic hearth
It's not just for games
weak girder
It's not just for games
even
unless youre a pro dev that needs the extra horsepower I dont think its gonna be very usefull
supple bane
if you will benefit from the extra power and have the money then get the 3090 imo
ionic hearth
I almost got a job in gamedev (a few last steps remain), gonna study at least UE 5
supple bane
could also look at the 3080ti which is cheaper and really close to the 3090 in performance just with less vram
quick locust
if for work use quadro
ionic hearth
I also want play games :)
supple bane
quadro AND 3090
weak girder
3090 ti sli
ionic hearth
My case is 3090 for the home pc where I can study some professional related stuff and play modern games without any problems
supple bane
yeah i dont think you will benefit form the 3090 in that case
supple bane
or 3080ti if you have the money
i see the 3080ti as a glass half full half empty kind of card. you could argue that its close to the 3080 in performance but much more expensive or you could argue its close to the 3090 in performance and much cheaper
lofty light
Get a 6800 XT
supple bane
and both are true
ionic hearth
Get a 6800 XT
I sold my soul to Nvidia and Intel
supple bane
^
ionic hearth
Intel has better performance in case of memory in last generations. Idk what happens with AMD and Intel for now
supple bane
yikes. i was just teleported to 2015
you got some catching up to do bro heh
intels newer 11900k is 8 cores 16 threads whilst amds older 5950x is 16 cores 32 threads
the 5950x gets slightly more fps in games but absolutely demolishes intel in multithreaded tasks
lofty light
11900K 
supple bane
and its basically the same story up and down the stack
and we dont discuss workstation, because intel should be ashamed of what threadripper is doing to them
ionic hearth
intels newer 11900k is 8 cores 16 threads whilst amds older 5950x is 16 cores 32...
5950x in my country is 1.5 times expansive than 11900k if I'm not wrong
supple bane
that would be correct. but its a HEDT cpu. it shouldnt really be compared with the consumer 11900k if im to be truthful
it should be compared to intels extreme edition cpus.
which are even slower in gaming
lofty light
Either the 5800X or 5900X
ionic hearth
Also looked for 3080ti which is way-way cheaper then 3090 in terms of performance/price
supple bane
its direct competetor would be the 10980xe
they are the same generation, both HEDT and roughly the same price
lofty light
Also looked for 3080ti which is way-way cheaper then 3090 in terms of performanc...
Yeah the 3090 is a rebranded Titan
Best perf but awful price/perf
ionic hearth
3090 is for big gamedev/vfx companies I suppose
supple bane
its being marketed in the exact same was as titans always have
nvidia still sticking with their guns that the 80ti is the fastest card for gaming
even though everyone knows it isnt
ionic hearth
Thanks for advice on GPUs
lofty light
3090 is for big gamedev/vfx companies I suppose
It's for people who need the extra VRAM
quick locust
that would be correct. but its a HEDT cpu. it shouldnt really be compared with t...
5950x is not HEDT
ionic hearth
Now I'm looking for 3080/3080 ti which is close to my case
supple bane
you sure?
supple bane
ok well even if it doesnt, its still the same price and generation as the 10980xe
so my comparison stands
supple bane
well forget i said that then :P
quick locust
also fun fact
lofty light
It's a hedt part pulled down to a lower level
lofty light
Lol
quick locust
it was 970 usd
supple bane
and wasnt it terrible ? 
quick locust
ye
supple bane
yeah
it makes me so happy seeing how far amd have come
i love a good underdog story
quick locust
It's a hedt part pulled down to a lower level
it's more the full DT cpu
it doesnt have any features from hedt
supple bane
i thought HEDT was just a genre of cpus that are really expensive and not worth for the average consumer
opaque saddle
I remember how bad it was for the phenom
quick locust
well normal consumer doesnt need threadripper
supple bane
i didnt realise they actually had features to distinguish them
quick locust
😛
supple bane
so a NON HEDT cpu vs a HEDT cpu that are the same price and generation
its pretty one sided
supple bane
all of intels cpu's are
lofty light
fx 9590 cost more than ryzen 5950x does now
I knew a guy in my TAFE course who bought one of these and OCed it until it melted and set fire to his Mobo, yet he still went and bought another one
quick locust
xeon has 10nm and pcie 4.0 though now
so maybe they'll get around to HEDT eventually
ionic hearth
~~all of intels cpu's are~~ <:haHAA:562440524741476381>
As Intel guy I would not agree. i5 10400F/11400F is freaking awesome in budget segment
supple bane
was the 9590 not the cpu that holds the world record highest cpu clock speed?
like oc'ed to 8 ghz or something
supple bane
quick locust
nvm 8150
opaque saddle
But for the single core performance , Ryzen is still faster at base clock IIRC
5th Gen *
supple bane
As Intel guy I would not agree. i5 10400F/11400F is freaking awesome in budget s...
yeah.but amd doesnt have anything to compete at that low end. their cheapest current gen chip is still 100 pounds more than the 11400f
supple bane
its kinda impressive how bad it was lol
when you look at its basic specs now they still look like modern chips
i mean 8c8t at a max boost of 5ghz
thats like i7 9700k levels. but its just slow as balls.
like how do they do that lmao
quick locust
horrible architecture
ionic hearth
Any advice on nvme ssd? In case best lifetime, no matter cost for desktop pc
quick locust
thats the only thing you can change short term @supple bane
new archictecture takes years
quick locust
samsung or optane
ionic hearth
2 my last ssd are by Samsung, heh
opaque saddle
I remember a few friends of mine went for ADATA and never go back again
ionic hearth
Never looked for optane
opaque saddle
Coz it is so bad and they all have it for a day or two before it died
lofty light
Samsung are defs my ssd of choice
opaque saddle
Optane has less latency but I will go for Samsung for the system drive
quick locust
Optane if you got lot of cash, otherwise higher end samsung
opaque saddle
Coz it is quite versatile
opaque saddle
I got my 870 1TB for 110-114 AUD
ionic hearth
I've never had any ssd die yet though
I got the only HDD death, still all ssd are alive
ionic hearth
What vendor?
opaque saddle
Usually if you ask people who has tried other brands and Samsung in the past, they are more likely will go for Samsung for their next purchase
quick locust
Only drive fails ive had was an asus laptop that kept killing every drive i put in it
ionic hearth
Usually if you ask people who has tried other brands and Samsung in the past, th...
Same story with all my friends that tried Samsung
opaque saddle
I had HDD failure from Maxtor, Seagate and Samsung
quick locust
I've got samsung, intel and liteonit rn
opaque saddle
Same story with all my friends that tried Samsung
Coz you can’t go wrong with it
quick locust
and hynix
opaque saddle
And I haven’t heard of anyone who got a 850 PRO have had any issues with it so far
opaque saddle
I think I have 3-4 friends who are still using 850 PRO today
opaque saddle
What’s the SSD health?
quick locust
it doesn't specify
opaque saddle
What’s the percentage
I tried and I found that out from a software
But I cannot remember it
quick locust
crystaldiskinfo
but this drive doesn't give a percentage
doesn't show temps either
except for airflow temp i think
opaque saddle
Hmm yeah I think I got a crucial 275GB
quick locust
but this uses toshiba MLC with a marvell controller
opaque saddle
MLC ssd are priceless
I meant not Samsung “3 layers MLC”, that’s TLC
I don’t know what’s the SSD’ TBW number coz I’m currently away from home
Wouldn’t know whether I will be able to go back or not 
lofty light
I've got a remarkably shitty TLC SSD by OCZ that is barely faster write than a 5400rpm HDD
opaque saddle
Hopefully not eMMC
lofty light
I mean it was so cheap it's possible although it's 500gb
opaque saddle
DRAM less
lofty light
Did the "order by cheapest" and got the first 500gb, was cheaper than some of the 128gb drives I recall
lofty light
Probably is
opaque saddle
Can’t get over 60mb/s reading speed or something
I have a mini pc that uses 32GB eMMC chip storage
Those things can be found on lowest end chromebooks
lofty light
This was an SSD from like 8 years ago though
opaque saddle
EMMC was old tech
lofty light
Yeah it's still around too
quick locust
my intel ssd is dramless
opaque saddle
I’m actually quite surprised the number of people purchased the Samsung QVO
They all said, ah it is 10-20 bucks cheaper so I bought it
opaque saddle
And don’t notice the differences. Which is what we expected
You know the Samsung cashback programmes makes the EVO SATA SSD cheaper
Or the prices are on par to QVO
Oh yeah 1TB 870 EVO was $115, $13 more expensive than the QVO
quick locust
i bought 1 TB 870 evo
quite a bit ago
it'll last much longer than my OS drive
lol
kind of wish i went with an AIC ssd but oh well
opaque saddle
I bought 4 SAMSUNG SSD last year
quick locust
i don't buy hardware too often
opaque saddle
One for my portable SSD. Willing to run windows 10 on the go
dry pike
I hear the call of the Samsungs!
opaque saddle
Wait when did you get your 850 EVO?
I reckon I might have asked the same question in the past
dry pike
2017
molten bramble
I hope that Crucial is being used only as a page file drive
quick locust
I run 3 SSDs 2 HDDs
opaque saddle
My seagate 4TB died this year
quick locust
all my drives are going well, 15K hours and no errors
opaque saddle
I bought that 12-15 months ago
dry pike
I hope that Crucial is being used only as a page file drive
The crucial was hosting my local Onedrive backup. I'm actually moving that right now to one of the Samsungs :p
quick locust
i got one that can outdo you in ssds
molten bramble
I never had a Crucial drive that survived more than a year, more concerned about your data integrity.
opaque saddle
I remember some companies have changed their SSD specs to save money
Same speed but different parts
quick locust
is normal
which is why they don't specify too much
adata changed 8200 pro like 5 times
it's not just to save money but also changing parts availability
opaque saddle
And what’s the newer one that changed from TLC to QLC?
Can’t remember what brand was it
dry pike
I never had a Crucial drive that survived more than a year, more concerned about...
it's like 7 years old and has been performing flawlessly.
opaque saddle
How many TBW?
molten bramble
Like sleeping with a loaded pistol with the finger taped to the trigger in my experience 😄
dry pike
How many TBW?
Everything is good
prime jasper
Man I sure do love XMP.
Anyway, my drive is a Sabrent Rocket, 512GB, pretty dang happy with it.
supple bane
Everything is good
what tool is this ?
dry pike
what tool is this ?
CrystalDiskInfo
supple bane
is that different to crystaldiskmark?
opaque saddle
is that different to crystaldiskmark?
This is benchmarking tool
dry pike
is that different to crystaldiskmark?
CrystalDiskmark: benchmarks
CrystalDiskinfo: shows info
same developer, different application
supple bane
for such a big software entity, this is one old/dodgy site heh
quick locust
It mostly just takes data from SMART
Obviously
There's many programs that can do this
opaque saddle
Checking SMART is either a hit or a miss
supple bane
hey!
opaque saddle
I had 3 HDD failure in the past, 2 of them got detected with S.M.A.R.T, and another didn’t
dry pike
for such a big software entity, this is one old/dodgy site heh
Big software entity? It's like 1 guy making it by himself I think 😄
supple bane
i mean like in the tech world
quick locust
I had 3 HDD failure in the past, 2 of them got detected with S.M.A.R.T, and anot...
I rather meant its what crystaldiskinfo pulls from
supple bane
everyone knows what crystal disk mark is
all the youtubers use it etc. its not like something that one person uses
quick locust
Unless your drive is older than IDE
opaque saddle
I rather meant its what crystaldiskinfo pulls from
Usually when the software detected there are some issues via SMART check, usually it is within 1 week before the death of a HDD
Nah it was SATA
opaque saddle
Usually what happens when the HDD usage hits 100% without a proper reason, meaning the HDD can be dying
quick locust
So there's a lot of software to just read and show this
Well unless it's windows doing something
Before I reset my surface RT the eMMC was always 100%
Making everything insufferable
quick locust
I know
opaque saddle
Which is like SD card but with less latency
eMMC has greater 4K writes lower latency than SD card,
quick locust
I hope E1.S and E3 soon comes to consumer though
Replaces m.2 and 2.5 inch
Dont think it will anytime soon though
dry pike
Giving OneDrive something to do.
opaque saddle
Waiting for the day when SSD or flash memory is cheaper than HDD
ionic hearth
Giving OneDrive something to do.
Serial CPU and IO killer, love it
quick locust
Use tape
Even cheaper than HDDs
SSDs have gotten really cheap but
I hope they don't push PLC more to decrease the prices
dry pike
Even cheaper than HDDs
Depends on what you use it for. Quite high barrier of entry and damn slow.
quick locust
Since it's horrible
opaque saddle
I think PLC SSD will be a good archive drive for the price in the future
It is just getting worse and worse. It has defeat the purpose of having fast and reliable SSD on the computer
pure grail
molten coral
uwu drive 
weak girder
my grandpas pc
prime jasper
Nice
weak girder
orchid folio
can it run bf2042
weak girder
can it run bf2042 <:leo:760110335687524423>
yes
orchid folio
Wait there is a dark mode for that?
weak girder
Wait there is a dark mode for that?
windows dark mode applies to everything
orchid folio
Ah
weak girder
chrome, file explorer, taskbar etc...
orchid folio
Let me go enable it
near rune
bruh dark mode was on of the first things i did
weak girder
^
quick locust
267 updates today
near rune
im still on 20h2
slim depot
how tf do i boot into uefi
and how do i enable secureboot
and my tpm chip
my bios is uefi
and yet no option for secureboot or tpm chip in my normal bios
and the uefi firmware settings button is missing in troubleshoot
how do i fix it
if needing to know what my motherboard is is vital, it's a gigabyte z68p-ds3
according to windows it is UEFI
and i can boot into the bios by restarting my pc, but bios lacks any security settings, secureboot settings or tpm chip settings
and the troubleshoot section also lacks ''uefi firmware settings''
ionic hearth
If I'm correct your motherboard doesn't have tpm chip but have header (slot) for this. Also why would you need secure boot?
slim depot
for win 11
and also my motehrboard does have one
i looked it up
just tell me how to access the uefi settings please
slim depot
btu there's no secureboot or tpm chip options there
no security settings
and the bios is uefi according to windows
i checked via ms32info
fast wren
maybe u have tpm 1.0 default
slim depot
how do i enable the tpm chip
fast wren
and doesnt have any other setting
fast wren
how do i enable the tpm chip
lemme check the board specs
doesnt have tpm module from factory looks like
slim depot
but i looked it up it says it does
don't tell me ith as a slot for it but doesn't have it
fast wren
depending in the country it has it installed or not
slim depot
ain't no security menu for me
ionic hearth
Or it's like everything is enabled by default and you have to do nothing
fast wren
all depends of the motherboard
slim depot
i'm looking hold on
i heard csm has to be disabled to show secureboot
so hold on
uh
no sign of csm
or secureboot
or tpm chip
slim depot
Or it's like everything is enabled by default and you have to do nothing
then why does win 10 tell me my tpm chip is disabled
slim depot
but hwo can i enable it tho
fast wren
im looking in gigabyte's page
and as i told you, depending on the country it doesnt have the module
slim depot
well i'm italian
fast wren
what rev of the board u have, 1.0, 2.0 or 2.1?
slim depot
how do i figure that out
fast wren
do you have the box?
fast wren
mhh lemme think how we can figure it out
uh, so my final answer is that u dont have a tpm module
slim depot
i don't think that matters anymore actually
fast wren
i was able to activate the module without any problem
slim depot
there's this website that's got all the most recent iso's of windows
and windows 11 insdier build is part of it
and i believe it updates
so i think i can upgrade regardless of my system specs
lmao
microsoft's full of shit
slim depot
idk why they want tpm do
something to do with encrypted drives or someshit
their specs are bogus tho
fast wren
so my question is, when does tpm do something?
slim depot
i uh
fast wren
when i get malware or wut
slim depot
i don't know
it's so funny though
like
the iso's aren't cracked or anything
like you need ot have a previously activated windows version for them to work
but like if you can't officially update
outer saddle
TPM protects CMOS.
slim depot
you can jut take the iso off the website
and update that way
anyv ersio nof windows that is activated
it can even eb windows 7
or xp
you can use that iso
fast wren
TPM protects CMOS.
even the cmos button?
fast wren
i wont lose anything by clearing my bios lmao
slim depot
can i lnik the iso
it's not ap iracy thing
like it's legit
it won't work if your windows is not activated
and it's the official build
if you don't have an activated windows build it won't install
fast wren
better install in another device with nothing in case of any random bug
slim depot
well i was planning to install it on this laptop
it's a laptop with absically nothing on it
it's windows 8.1
mainly used for youtube netflix and shit
now i'm not sure if the iso that i foudn BYPASSES the tpm check
slim depot
if it doesn't you can bypass it by getting a windows 10 iso and replacing one of the files and that'll do it
fast wren
the pc we were trying to figure out
fast wren
ptt is like tpm but doesnt need a module
slim depot
ptt is like tpm but doesnt need a module
but that won't fit the bill for win 11 right
fast wren
it does
slim depot
wait rly
like it'll be detected as tpm
i so that's fucking sick
then the only thing left to solve is secureboot if i got ptt
fast wren
i was looking the use of ptt cuz u have it on my bios
fast wren
search for intel ptt
fast wren
goddamm
what a bios
also if u dont disable csm u wont be able to see the option i think
slim depot
there is no csm lmao
slim depot
what a bios
i can't tell if that's a compliment or not
fast wren
what bios ver u have?
slim depot
f3
fast wren
soo, you never updated the bios xd
slim depot
bruh it's not like that's a big necessity
are there options in teh updates that i need to have
fast wren
it could give support for some new things
dry pike
I'm more interested in if @slim depot will ever find the tech to remove those 2 annoying checkmarks 😄
plucky token
Never
proud trellis
lol
supple bane
my canned air is running out of puff though so it wouldnt go that fast
supple bane
its not thick. but it is braided
supple bane
i snagged it on something and the fabric is a bit torn there
proud trellis
supple bane
hmm. weird how it would change
proud trellis
whats the prodigy like ? is it basically just the same
supple bane
its older
proud trellis
ohh
supple bane
the prodigy game before the hero, then after the hero its the lightspeed
proud trellis
i saw the lightspeed and it looked decent but to much money lol
i think it was £140 when i saw it
supple bane
well its wireless.
so thats to be expected
its wireless and also lighter than the g502 hero iirc
proud trellis
i understand its wireless etc but i dont think they are worth it
supple bane
no neither do i
proud trellis
i think i bought this G502 for like 60 or 70 pound
i couldn't get a wireless for 140 just to have no wire
supple bane
g pro x superlight will be my next mouse
proud trellis
that looks all out clean
idk what my next mouse would be tbf, ever since i got a G502 i have got better at FPS games
alot better
supple bane
if it works for you then just stay with the g502
its not like it will be going away any time soon
molten coral
I like the wireless version of the G502
Once you go wireless you don't really wanna go back
proud trellis
i just dont see the point in it
my cable has enough slack so i never get caught yanking it or anything
if i had spare money later in life maybe i would get one but i doubt i would
supple bane
it makes your setup cleaner, theres that..
molten coral
also no dragging of the cable
proud trellis
uhhh....prices have changed since i last looked
quick locust
I just use a bungee
near rune
i dont like it
quaint topaz
I'm never switching to any other mouse I've gotten so used to my G502
proud trellis
DIY mouse bungee
short night
Here's a goood questions I'm sure many people have asked and many of you know the answer to. Ryzen 5600x or Intel i10600KF processors with a 3070, which CPU is better?
quaint topaz
Logi warranty and support is pretty good. My G502 Spectrum broke after 3 years of use, 1 email later they sent me the Hero one for free.
quaint topaz
I have no idea how long the warranty is
proud trellis
i had razer.....but i switched as the mouse was falling to bits pretty much
quaint topaz
I wanted to buy a new one but a friend of mine was like just email logitech first
midnight crypt
seems like Logitech has a 3 year warranty for their mice
molten bramble
Logi warranty and support is pretty good. My G502 Spectrum broke after 3 years o...
Interesting, I have a G703 series that needs the scroll wheel fixed. I'll check it out.
fallen harbor
i heard rumours about the 3060 being somewhat cheaper nowadays, is that true
molten coral
Depends on the country I guess
quick locust
Well GPU prices overall are dropping a bit
supple bane
Logi warranty and support is pretty good. My G502 Spectrum broke after 3 years o...
My g502 hero's scroll wheel has seemingly gone rusty, i might also have to check this out
digital hill
My g502 hero's scroll wheel has seemingly gone rusty, i might also have to check...
Rusty jeez
digital hill
Most likely a display adapter
supple bane
Rusty jeez
Its a common issue
normal matrix
Here's a goood questions I'm sure many people have asked and many of you know th...
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supple bane
Here's a goood questions I'm sure many people have asked and many of you know th...
The 5600x is faster but also more expensive
prime jasper
I have a Redragon Impact mouse.
supple bane
g903 is another good mouse
plucky token
the left side clicker failed after 3 months
ordered myself some good ones for 4€ (2 pcs)
supple bane
odd. those arent something that you usually hear from logitech products tbh
plucky token
installed them, done
the g903 had alot of problems with that
but only that one
one of my friends had the same problem
supple bane
im full out Logitech shill now heh. logitech keyboard, logitech mouse, logitech headset (that i dont use anymore) and soon to be logitech wheel
plucky token
repaired it for him
iam whatever
Corsair K100 Opx keyboard, g903 mouse, Sennheiser Headphones, Rode NT-Usb mic
supple bane
yeah i use sennheiser headphones now. but i do own a logitech headset
fifine k669b baby!
supple bane
mad catz
supple bane
its funny, i told you you would grow out of it
proud trellis
when i first got pc i wanted everything RGB but now i could not care and just look for quality stuff thats not stupid prices
i like my keyboard i have from razer and thats about it my mouse was very bad looking back at it
storm osprey
...
supple bane
question. when a certain physics teacher whos name i wont disclose worked at your school, did he use his own deathadder for the computer too? @proud trellis
or was that just something he did at my school
proud trellis
dm me the name of the teacher if u want
supple bane
you make me lose brain cells
proud trellis
eh
supple bane
inb4 it turns out i was the one being the idiot
storm osprey
you know why
proud trellis
hehe
supple bane
i dont :(
storm osprey
im at work yo
supple bane
its fine. ill just stay out the loop :(
proud trellis
maybe another day he can explain
proud trellis
im at work yo
how do you not have time. Everytime you sit at work you sit on discord
proud trellis
rip
supple bane
lmao nyphon
when you first got that job you said you would stop using discord period at work
and i told you that would fall through quickly
and guess what :P
weak girder
im full out Logitech shill now heh. logitech keyboard, logitech mouse, logitech ...
Im still full razer
storm osprey
when you first got that job you said you would stop using discord period at work
well when i did focus on work 100% i ran out of stuff to do
storm osprey
havent i told you like 5 times already?
proud trellis
no
storm osprey
ehhhhhh, "designs" is a bit misleading
mostly i get an image like this ^
and i create plans of what we are actually going to provide
sometimes the sizes they ask for are not recommended, or out of compliance with disability guidelines, other times its clearance issues, etc
feral ocean
@granite kestrel sorry to mention you but slow mode in the recruitment channel isn't working
Nvm was just fixed
Sorry again
umbral rose
Anyone here who tested a BF game with Windows 11?
short night
The 5600x is faster but also more expensive
what about upgrading to a i7 10700kf?
storm osprey
what about upgrading to a i7 10700kf?
at 1080p i would take a 5600x, at 1440p i would take a 10700k
storm osprey
then i would go 10700k
short night
is that the 8 core performance over the 6 cores
storm osprey
the higher the resolution/graphics settings the more gpu demanding it is, so your cpu is less of a factor
at 1440p 10700k and 5600x are pretty close to each other last i saw
so why not spend the same and get 2 more cores?
(the "why not" would be upgrade path, better efficiency and a couple of other features in favor of AMD)
short night
ahhh makes sense doesnt it
battlefield current and new version work better on intel right?
storm osprey
errrr, i dont think so?
supple bane
no
short night
amd is better for BF?
supple bane
thats not how that works
you cant just generalise the entire platform and say which is better than the other per game
the 5950x will be faster than the i3 8100. but that doesnt mean amd works better on bf games if you know what i mean
short night
love cooking up a debate
supple bane
it depends on the specific cpu, not the company it comes from
storm osprey
at the 300 dollar cpu price point i would say intel would probably win for bfv at 1440p
just because of the core count
yea im not seeing mp benchmarks between the 2 for bfv, just sp which intel has a lead in
molten coral
burnt hollow
short night
Alrigth cheers guys @storm osprey @supple bane 🙂
chrome skiff
<:uhh:718281783371628654>
So..... what did you do....
weak girder
Seems like my monitor is dying *again*
throw it out, live in the woods and return to monke
molten coral
Ye other monitor is fine but it's just this one
Seems like the panel is going bad again
latent light
Ye other monitor is fine but it's just this one
Bruh just hop back on to the more reliable platform, gaming consoles
molten coral
Isn't the first time as Samsung replaced the panel 6 months ago
weak girder
I seem to not have problems
supple bane
you dont have the g9, do you?
latent light
My RX 580 has problems with HDMI where the screen doesn't fit right or it flickers but no issues with DP or DVI, my motherboards BIOS is glitchy and won't let me tweak most of the RAM settings because when I do it just reverses everytime when I save and exit even tho everyone else with same motherboard doesn't have this issue
weak girder
My RX 580 has problems with HDMI where the screen doesn't fit right or it flicke...
tf
latent light
Both are from Gigabyte lol
tidal rivet
Does anyone know how to get the Xbox series X controller to work on PC for Bf4? Jw
molten coral
you dont have the g9, do you?
I've the CHG90
supple bane
right, for some reason i thought you had the g9
molten coral
Think it was the first version of samsung super ultrawide.
I wish I had the G9 lmao
molten coral
it was top range back in 2017 
supple bane
well yeah. my point stands, everything you own is or was at some point the best you could get
molten coral
I like good stuff
supple bane
i can tell
molten coral
It's only with electronics that I'm that way.
supple bane
you have more self control than i do, dw lol
i brought basically 2 pc's in the space of 3 years without having a job
ive grown out of that now though
molten coral
why 2 pc's? 
supple bane
i mean in parts
molten coral
ah
I did the same with my first build
I basically replaced every single thing in the span of a year
supple bane
i brought a prebuilt in 2018, and then because of this discord server i became a hyper nerd whom is just addicted to tech lmao
molten coral
except for the GPU as I had a 970
supple bane
and now i want a career in it
molten coral
nice
supple bane
and from that prebuilt i was just addicted to getting upgrades for it
and within 3 years i upgraded everything
only thing that remains is the psu
molten coral
Any particular field you want to get into?
supple bane
not really, there are some fields i dont want to get into though
dont wanna do tech support. at least not keyboard warrior tech support. i dont mind hands on stuff. and dont wanna be a game dev or software dev
my interest is with hardware. my dream DREAM job would be hands on in the data centre i guess
but id give me 1/1000 of getting a job like that
molten coral
Study hard and you can do it :)
proud trellis
you would earn alot of money in a data centre tho ig ?
supple bane
its a good field
because every company needs a cyber security department now
so there are plenty of roles for it
the problem i have atm is where i live it isnt a very big server/data centre place. there are plenty of tech companies though.
afaik the closest data centre to me is a good 40 minute drive
molten coral
I was the same at age 15-18 and after I did get a degree as furniture maker/carpenter I didn't do it because I started to hate it.
It's hard work and long days.
proud trellis
i will probably go into bricklaying or plastering
my cousin rn also wants to be a bricklayer and he has to be up at 5am to go to work rn and he is just an apprentice
molten coral
If you're really going that path use fucking knee pads or your knees will be fucked by the age of 30 lmao
proud trellis
oh god
i have been wanting to do something in construction since i was about 11 and im 14 now so i have been focused on it for a little while
supple bane
believe me
things change
let me tell you. i wanted to be a mechanic since as early as i could remember because its both what my dad did and my brother. but that soon was removed from my head lol
infact i basically lost all interest in cars since ive found computing
proud trellis
lol
supple bane
alright thats not true, im still a car fan, but not as much
proud trellis
i remember you having conversations about cars on ps4
i like tech but i couldnt go into the mindset of wanting to work in cyber security etc
it would just be to hard for me i think
supple bane
well. thats why you go through education lol
you likely have to go to uni for those kinds of jobs, and you will learn most things you need to know there
proud trellis
i still have work experience to do in year 10
and if i still like the idea of construction i will probs do that for my work experience and see if its my type
supple bane
treasure that. i didnt get to do it because of covid. infact covid potentially cost me a really solid career in IT
i managed to bag a once in a life time opportunity basically to do work experience at an IT soloutions company, and the people that did it before me got apprenticeships from it...
and i was prepared to do everything i could to try the same
wide swift
proud trellis
im hoping my work experience doesnt get cancelled either but i dont think it will
molten coral
Best advice I can give you is: Do what you wanna do, life is short so yeah do something that you enjoy doing. @proud trellis
proud trellis
i will probably do something in construction
rain void
is it a good time to try and build a pc rn?
proud trellis
its been in my mind for a while but like you guys said it might change. but i cant really see something else being my type of job
i would find somerthing in IT fun but i dont think i would meet the grades needed although i dont know what is really needed for those jobs
slim depot
as a lot of peopel will, i'm gonna install win 11 via iso
and use the bypass method
but the question is
will i be able to update win 11 through the official method after i instal it the first time
i don't gotta always install iso's and keep updating manually do i
weak girder
i would find somerthing in IT fun but i dont think i would meet the grades neede...
my plans are to become a software engineer at google or apple or stuff like that
weak girder
is it a good time to try and build a pc rn?
its prolly the worse time
pulsar sentinel
my plans are to become a software engineer at google or apple or stuff like that
Ah, I see you as a man of FAANG-sexual
marsh gull
is it a good time to try and build a pc rn?
no
prime jasper
No, but at least GTX 1060's are coming back into stock.
spiral tendon
Anyone have recommendation on wireless headset for Xbox?
burnt rose
Quick question for the tech wizards, will my old 750 ti run on a brand new AORUS Micro ATX B550M ELITE, S-AM4, AMD B550 ? Since iam upgrading my whole setup i wont be able to afford a gpu atm but will down the road, the point is to get it started, will it run? Thanks in advance
prime jasper
which battlefield?
burnt rose
no i mean like, will the motherboard be able to read it or accept it?
Or do i need a different gpu
tender rampart
you might be better off asking someone on reddit
lofty light
I mean it should do
The drivers will be outdated as they've stopped updating them though
digital hill
I mean my laptop workstation gpu drivers are very outdated due to the fact lenovo made drivers for gpu only on there site and using nvidia = error
opaque saddle
I mean my laptop workstation gpu drivers are very outdated due to the fact lenov...
You can install custom drivers on it. I have done that before which allows me to install desktop class GTX 960 on my Asus laptop with GT 630M on it. You will need to uninstall the exisiting GPU driver, download the driver for your GPU from nvidia website, change the code that matches your GPU model number under install file with notepad, that shall bypass the error.
quick locust
Quick question for the tech wizards, will my old 750 ti run on a brand new AORUS...
Yes it will work fine
quick locust
The drivers will be outdated as they've stopped updating them though
The 750ti will still get updates
lofty light
Didn't they recently kill 700 series drivers?
lofty light
Ohhhh
quick locust
So they'll be only 700 series left
780 ti dropped before 750 ti :P
The rest of the series will get last update in autumn
normal matrix
Anyone have recommendation on wireless headset for Xbox?
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spiral tendon
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I see there are different numbered ones. Which one do you use?
normal matrix
I see there are different numbered ones. Which one do you use?
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spiral tendon
Awesome! Yeah I currently have the wired steel series 1 I believe. Just wanted to see if they are actually a good brand or not. Sounds like they are!
spiral tendon
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Thank you!
normal matrix
Thank you!
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quick locust
burnt rose
@quick locust any GPU i should hunt, that is affordable and powerful? I mean if the prices ever drop, thanks a ton for the help btw
quick locust
Depends on what you can find in your area
burnt rose
hmm... i was thinking about a radeon 5700xt but idk...
quick locust
Those are good, but a lot of miners bought them up
burnt rose
i had my eye on a saphirie before it sky rocked to 30k pesos
quick locust
6700xt is actually worse for mining than them, so can be found easier sometimes
burnt rose
the 12gb one?
quick locust
yea
quick locust
oof
burnt rose
big oof
quick locust
what about 3060
burnt rose
sweet mama
supple bane
cards like that are just E waste tbh. because you spend money on getting something that can already barely give a nice experience. and it certainly wont last
you may as well just get a console
burnt rose
yeah, ima just wait for a 2070 i guess... i also need it for architecture
so i guess like in 2 or next year
weak girder
isnt that one like kinda old now?
not old but bad
it would've been a med range card in 2015... not 2019
midnight crypt
the 1650 is faster than a 960 but slower than a 970
storm rune
nvm thaught that it was better lmao
supple bane
yeah the 1650 is like the bare minimum for a gaming pc
BARE minimum
and i stick with my guns that you may as well get a console
instead of that
storm rune
yea
i have a rtx 3070 so i have no problem with games
but my cpu is the problem because it's bottlenecking my gpu
midnight crypt
what cpu?
storm rune
r5 3600
supple bane
it wont bottleneck in most games
storm rune
it bottlenecks hard af
supple bane
no.
storm rune
im going to change it for r5 5600x
supple bane
bfv yes. flight simulator 2020 defiantly too
but id say 90% of games its perfectly fine
midnight crypt
it might bottleneck if hes playing on 1080p
supple bane
yeah it will certainly bottleneck bf games at 1080p
storm rune
and i bought my montior last year so im not going to change it
so i rather change my cpu
same prize but still higher frames 
opaque saddle
I don't see the point paying for another one. People would usually get a decent "Lower tier" High -end products and it will last for long time
serene root
RTX 3070 for 1080p? So much lost performance...
chrome skiff
and i bought my montior last year so im not going to change it
if youre playing on ultra maybe you will get 20 fps at times. If you turn down your post processing to medium i doubt youd even see or feel a difference between a 3600 and 5600x. I have 3600mhz memory cl 16 16 16 on both my 3600 and 5600x and with my 2080ti it was about 20 fps at 1080p at 160fps plus. Is too close performance wise to recommend doing it but its your money.
weak girder
bruh u drunk
not so much eh
slim depot
i don't gotta always install iso's and keep updating manually do i
no one answered my question this whole time?
chrome skiff
i believe someone said it earlier better off going intel for the cores to price since 10700k is roughly 300 bucks for 8 cores but then you need a mobo too
slim depot
like me and a lot of other people are going to download windows 11 unofficially
aka via iso
like the official one
weak girder
like me and a lot of other people are going to download windows 11 unofficially
why bother
slim depot
but with the win 10 installer to bypass the tpm check and all
slim depot
why bother
cuz it's more optimized than windows 10?????
weak girder
cuz it's more optimized than windows 10?????
no?????
slim depot
no?????
yes????? have you seen teh benchmarks?????
dx12 games run a lot better
anyway my questio nis
considering i'll download it via iso
short pier
and i bought my montior last year so im not going to change it
Ay yo in battlefield just turn up the resolution scale to 137% and that's the equivalent to 1440p
slim depot
that doesn't mean i need to download every update's iso from that poitn right?
like i can update the official way? just go into the settings and update?
weak girder
Ay yo in battlefield just turn up the resolution scale to 137% and that's the eq...
doesnt look as good as real 1440p but it will certainly help with the bottleneck
chrome skiff
it sounds like he is worried about fps not losing fps due to scaling
weak girder
yes????? have you seen teh benchmarks?????
short pier
Alright but you're turning up the resolution scale. Looks much better than 1080p and it's the technical equivalent to 1440p.
chrome skiff
69 nice
short pier
it sounds like he is worried about fps not losing fps due to scaling
He has a 3070 i doubt it
weak girder
WOW WHAT A HUGE PERFORMANCE GAP
slim depot
when you got all teh settings maxed out on a 3070 ofc it works
cpu performance is wha'ts icnreased
someone benchmarked all teh games on the lowest settings so cpu is the one being used the most
and saw an increase
plus i came here to ask you a questio ncompletely unrelated
you're ranting about the os
and have yo noticed win 11 is using less cpu?
that's one of the big changes
chrome skiff
He has a 3070 i doubt it
did he say he wants more performance or better image? He was talking about performance
weak girder
plus i came here to ask you a questio ncompletely unrelated
just search it up on google, Im sure you'll get a response
slim depot
just search it up on google, Im sure you'll get a response
dude i got no response why do you think i' masking here?
stop being a dick
ffs
i asked one question and instead of answering you just rant about the os
chrome skiff
dude i got no response why do you think i' masking here?
its tech talk not tech support go to forums to find your answer
short pier
did he say he wants more performance or better image? He was talking about perfo...
Yeah but he's talking about a bottleneck. Says he doesn't want to switch to a new monitor and I'm telling him he can still play at 1440p in battlefield
slim depot
its tech talk not tech support go to forums to find your answer
this isn't tech support man
i' mjust asking one questio nrelated to tech
weak girder
i' mjust asking one questio nrelated to tech
If no one answered your question its for a reason
chrome skiff
and apparently noone wants to answer you about it
short pier
its tech talk not tech support go to forums to find your answer
In a cpu bottle neck increasing the resolution will have little frame rate impact going from 1080p to 1440p
chrome skiff
In a cpu bottle neck increasing the resolution will have little frame rate impac...
exactly he was talking about getting better fps?
weak girder
bro you can't not answer for no reason
why would we answer if its just to say we dont know
slim depot
why would we answer if its just to say we dont know
cuz it's nicer than ranting about the os for no fuckign reason
short pier
exactly he was talking about getting better fps?
I said little frame rate impact