technology

[quick locust]

Millions? No

A fab costs billions

[toxic zealot]

dont they have 1 big one?

for making batch at a time

[quick locust]

They have several

Depending on wafer size, process, etc

Tsmc has 13 active

[toxic zealot]

did he do functional chip with that setup?

i see he has a lot of dirt and stuff on his image lol

[quick locust]

Intel has 15

You can't really make them on scale that they do

[toxic zealot]

yes

but did the guy in the video make a functional chip

its different story making something that looks like a chip under microscope

and making actual chip

[quick locust]

Yeah I think it did

[latent light]

Windows 11 ain't bad tbh

[supple bane]

i like it.

[quick locust]

It looks more like chromeos/gnome

[magic monolith]

look like a cosmetics dlc for windows 10...I like it nevertheless

[quick locust]

It's decent

Don't like that they removed local account for home though

[magic monolith]

yeah I don't see the need for removal

[hoary bane]

Butt

[midnight crypt]

You can still make a local account

Also an early build doesnt say much

[quick locust]

Not in Home

In Pro you can

Iirc

[stable mountain]

Home is always online?

[quick locust]

The install is

[dry pike]

Home will require a microsoft account and for you to be online when installing Win11. But after that you don't always have to be online.

[prime jasper]

Well that's good to know if Microsoft planning to reach x amount of devices like they was going to do with windows 10 when it came out like they was trying to go for like 1 billion devices or something if i remember.

[latent light]

Navi 23 RX 6600 XT will have 64 ROPS/32 CUs... With an advertised peak boost of 2900 MHz, equating to over 10 TFlops performance, faster than last gen RX 5700 XT... and ONLY within 100W TDP

[fallow garden]

Yall when we finna be able to get da windows 11?😐

[dry pike]

The first insider build should be this week. People are guessing October/November for the general public.

[digital hill]

Wait that could also mean they're might be a 6500xt that just runs on pci forget the name they call it for only pci power

maybe weaker then the 5700xt but still more powerful then the 5600xt

[quick locust]

still better than series S

by far

[latent light]

6600XT is 100W
6600 is ~75W

[digital hill]

Oh wow that can run on pci e power with 75w

[dark badge]

Does battlefield 5 work on windows 11?

[visual quail]

gpu usage

[visual quail]

tested again on battlefield 5 dx12, 80+ fps 1080p in the campaign

[supple bane]

gpu and cpu?

[visual quail]

ah im too lazy to check now

[supple bane]

no i mean what cpu and gpu do you have

theres no way you know what your gpu usage is but dont know what gpu you have

[visual quail]

2070 super

new

[supple bane]

right, and cpu?

[visual quail]

i5 9400F

[supple bane]

80 fps is pretty dogwater for those specs on 1080p

i get that on 1440p with a slower gpu and cpu

unless you have raytracing enabled

[visual quail]

well when i took a screenshot it said 80

right now 110

[supple bane]

try dx 11

dx 12 is terrible on bfv

its a mess

[visual quail]

dx11 is no issue ill try though

dx12 on bfv makes the menu screens very laggy

[supple bane]

it makes everything laggy

[visual quail]

i did use DLSS though

im getting 90fps with dx11

[supple bane]

fuck that. thats also terrible on bfv

do you have raytracing enabled?

[visual quail]

i did yes

[supple bane]

oh thats why

these are screenshots i took

top one was 1440p ultra raytracing + dlss

bottom was 1440p low no raytracing/dlss

you can see why competitive players always play on low with this game lol

[supple bane]

yeah, thats normal on 1080p for a 2070 super

[visual quail]

oh the temperature i dont care about

the usage is normal?

[supple bane]

i mean the usage

[visual quail]

ah

[supple bane]

you will be very bottlenecked with a 9400f

[visual quail]

i heard

[supple bane]

this game is very cpu demanding. even more so at 1080p

[short pier]

ay do you guys think a ryzen 5 3600 is a good pairing with a rtx 2070 super

[visual quail]

how good would a 3600 be?

yeah that cpu

[supple bane]

not worth an upgrade for you

[supple bane]

if you are buying a pc new, its a good pairing

[short pier]

already have one

[supple bane]

what are you current specs

[short pier]

just need a new gpu

[supple bane]

oh so you are upgrading gpu

dont get a 2070 super

wait for prices to normalise and get a 3070 for the same price

[short pier]

thats a thicc boy

30 series sheesh

[supple bane]

yes?

[short pier]

with a 3600?

[visual quail]

3070 fit on a b365 phantom gaming 4?

[supple bane]

the 2070 super and the 3070 have the same msrp

[weak girder]

keep everything on ultra and put taa on low

game looks much better

[supple bane]

it will be slightly bottlenecked, but you may as well spend the same money and get a faster gpu lol

[short pier]

true

[supple bane]

there is little to no point buying a last gen card new

[short pier]

At that point i would just play at 1440p

or higher

[quaint sleet]

i really hope 2042 doesnt have forced AA

[supple bane]

because the new generation will ALWAYS have something faster for the same price

even the 2000 series which wasnt a good upgrade as to say. its still faster for cheaper for someone putting together a new system

[quaint sleet]

problem is that it wasnt cheaper

[supple bane]

if you have a 1080ti, there isnt any point really upgrading to a 2080 for example, but if you are building a new pc, the 2060 is cheaper than the 1070 and faster

[supple bane]

wut?

[quaint sleet]

GPUs have only been getting more expensive

[supple bane]

im talking about msrp

and in the past

[quaint sleet]

gpu msrp has gone up dramatically

[supple bane]

the top of the line cards have yes

[visual quail]

40 series will be better than the 3090 at $40

[quaint sleet]

all cards have

[weak girder]

a lot of people do that

for some reason

upgrading a 2080 ti to a 3080 or smth, I find that kinda useless

[supple bane]

they have gotten more expensive but not drastically

for the midrange cards

top of the line yes

[plucky token]

Went from 1080 to 3080

Was worth it

[supple bane]

i just worked it out, when you account for inflation the price difference between a 1070 and 3070 is 25 pounds

hardly drastic

[jovial crater]

I did the same upgrade. But, bBefore I did my GPU I upgraded from a 1080p 60hz monitor to a nice 1440p 240hz one. Holy fuck the difference was INSANE.

[supple bane]

going from 60hz to 144+hz is pretty poggers

but it also makes 60 fps unplayable for shooters sadly

thats what it did for me at least

well not unplayable, but not enjoyable

[jovial crater]

Yeah but going from 1080p 60hz to 1440p 240hz while only playing Warzone and still being on the 1080

[weak girder]

I bought a 144hz monitor when I got my pc 4 years ago

[jovial crater]

Was everything but poggers

As I barely hit 90 to 100 FPS because the game runs like doodoo hahaha

[quaint sleet]

look at 970
also that doesnt consider markups or taxation changes

[weak girder]

game is optimized like poopoo

[quaint sleet]

partner cards are getting more expensive

i dont think anyone really thinks GPU value has gone up when nvidia gets to charge whatever they like

[plucky token]

Are 1440p 240hz a thing?

[supple bane]

samsung odessy g7

[plucky token]

Ah

This

[jovial crater]

I got this one from Alienware ▶️ https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-27-gaming-monitor-aw2721d/apd/210-axsw/monitors-monitor-accessories

[supple bane]

bro the odessy g9 is like 5120x2160 at 240hz iirc

[weak girder]

I dont know any gpu's that can run modern games at 1440p 240 fps

[plucky token]

Nah, 240hz monitors only from Zowie with dyac

[weak girder]

my monitor is classic acer 1080p 144hz

[jovial crater]

3080/3090 definitely can depending on the title's optimisation and your graphic settings.

[plucky token]

1080p 240hz Zowie XL2546

[visual quail]

i get 30 fps on cyberpunk 2077 on low settings 144hz

[quaint sleet]

peep price performance
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/common_gpus.html
we haven't had comparable value since the 900 series (3070 is good but it's hardly sold at 500$ anymore)

[plucky token]

120fps in cyberpunk max settings with RT in 1080p

[weak girder]

can defo do 1440p 240 fps in warzone

[plucky token]

3080 makes it possible. And dlss

[jovial crater]

Damn, didn't know the 5000 series cards were already out

[quaint sleet]

3070 runs cyberpunk max with quality dlss and medium rt at 60fps 1440p

[visual quail]

quadro

[jovial crater]

How does Cyberpunk run since launch? Is it actually playable now?

[quaint sleet]

it was always playable

[weak girder]

no

[weak girder]

no

[jovial crater]

Expected but sad

[supple bane]

i forgot that game existed

[quaint sleet]

my 1660 ran that it at 60fps 1080p

[visual quail]

what the hell am i doing wrong my gpu is giving terrible stutters with ultra performance

[quaint sleet]

with a 7 year old i5

[weak girder]

cyberpunk is buggy af

[quaint sleet]

have you played?

lately?

at all?

[visual quail]

HOW

[weak girder]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk2077-good-graphics-bad-graphics-zako-gif-19529786

[plucky token]

It got patched recently. Had 0 bugs from launch ,👀

[visual quail]

i played the game today and refunded it because it was unplayable

[quaint sleet]

your pc must be a toaster

[visual quail]

its pretty decent

[weak girder]

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-gif-19718696

[plucky token]

Even a tesla can run it

[supple bane]

dont teslas have 5700xt equivalent gpu's ?

or am i making that up

[visual quail]

i must be doing something wrong then

[plucky token]

Dunno

No interest in tesla tbh

[short pier]

duh what the hell is your cpu

[visual quail]

i5 9400

[supple bane]

well there you go

[visual quail]

but cmon im getting 30fps with settings a 660 could run at 60fps

[quaint sleet]

well whats your gpu then

[plucky token]

Dlss?

[short pier]

I mean if your usage is garbage than its a cpu bottleneck

[plucky token]

Without dlss, rt is almost not playable

I want to get on my pc, but the storm is to heavy.... Lightnings everywhere

[weak girder]

cyberpunk is kinda shawty anyways

[short pier]

get a surge protector

[supple bane]

cough @ nacho cough

[plucky token]

I liked the game. 200 Hours into it

[supple bane]

his psu was killed when his house was struck by lightning like 6 months ago

[quaint sleet]

i have 150hrs in cyberpunk
one playthrough

I still havent touched maybe 30% of the quests

[plucky token]

@molten coral

[visual quail]

so this was a lie

[plucky token]

I do have that. But still worried

[quaint sleet]

what gpu?

[visual quail]

2070 super

[quaint sleet]

most of those sites are complete dogshit

[visual quail]

i know

[quaint sleet]

[molten coral]

[supple bane]

[plucky token]

Psu blown up by lightning?

[supple bane]

i think it was your psu

[molten coral]

Yeah

[supple bane]

i cant remember. was a long time ago

[plucky token]

Yikes

[supple bane]

yeah

[visual quail]

its crazy cause i hadn't played fortnite in a long time and wanted to try ray tracing for the first time. the first day i get 60fps average and now im being capped at 35fps for no reason

[molten coral]

Tomorrow 5900x poggers

[quaint sleet]

2070 is dying

rip

[plucky token]

Shouldnt it arrive today?

[supple bane]

but i have a 2070 :(

[molten coral]

It was delayed sadly

[supple bane]

nice

[plucky token]

Nooo

[weak girder]

wdym

[molten coral]

[prime jasper]

Man

PUBG looked like ass

[quaint sleet]

nvidia is gonna cancel all 2070s

[supple bane]

3000 fps in runescape :P

[weak girder]

it looks good now

[plucky token]

I hope you have thermalpaste around

[prime jasper]

Really?

[plucky token]

Otherwise its gonna be a dry contact

[weak girder]

except of your pc is ass, pubg looks pretty good

[molten coral]

Haven’t played runescape in months lol

[quick locust]

Nvidia doesn't set retail pricing or aib card prices

[quaint sleet]

neither do the consumers

nvidia does recommend a price though

and it hasnt been going down

[prime jasper]

Man that shit looked like a cesspool before

And it ran worse than cold war

[prime jasper]

I ran it at max settings

I couldnt find the difference from the mobile version

🤣

[supple bane]

@molten coral was it you that had the g29 ?

my steering wheel of 6 years is giving up the ghost and i need a new one

[plucky token]

His mind right now

[supple bane]

ping ping

im sure he doesnt mind

[molten coral]

You can have mine

[plucky token]

Aaaandthe power is out

[supple bane]

you stopped using it heh?

[plucky token]

Great

Fuckin great

[weak girder]

tf?

[molten coral]

Ye not really using it that much

[supple bane]

do you have the H shift add-on ?

the driving force its called i think

[molten coral]

I do but it’s pretty shit

[weak girder]

it isnt a screenshot but its the only image I have of this game and it looks decent

[prime jasper]

Oh hey that is nice

[molten coral]

It doesn’t feel like you’re actually shifting

[prime jasper]

That activate windows logo is NOT nice

[supple bane]

meh, i still want to try it :P

[weak girder]

its an old pic, I got rid of it 😎

[prime jasper]

oh

[weak girder]

are you running the game at 720p or smth?

[prime jasper]

No

1440

[quick locust]

Yeah but only one they can actually set is the FE cards on their website, which is a small minority of cards. Also they don't manufacture them, so they have other costs to consider

[quaint sleet]

gpus arent getting cheaper

[plucky token]

500€ pricedrop here

[short pier]

😳

[mystic shoal]

im planning on building my first pc soon so hopefully they will be slightly cheaper when the time comes

[weak girder]

maybe

[storm osprey]

yes, 10 dollars cheaper

[weak girder]

gaming in the countryside

[weak girder]

best setup

[dry pike]

Eeek. those poor strangled bottom fans

[young hearth]

Thats an ultra gamer setup you got there

[weak girder]

I raised the laptop up with a calculator

[dry pike]

https://tenor.com/view/its-something-gif-7339093

it's something

[short star]

I need help with the glitch saying i need to install another expansion pack. And i already have that pack. Its BF4 btw

[storm osprey]

acer nitro?!

[weak girder]

yes... why?

[storm osprey]

thats my work laptop

[weak girder]

what a shitty work laptop

its not made for work

[storm osprey]

seems fine for me 🤷

[weak girder]

battery doesnt hold more than 7 hours, its not the thinest laptop out there and macbooks are just overall better work laptops

[storm osprey]

i hardly ever need to use it unplugged, and i only carry it in a backpack

main reason for a laptop was so i could take my work back and forth and not have to worry about remoting in or multiple licenses for the software we use

[plucky token]

Fans at 100%

Jet engine

[storm osprey]

is front panel solid glass

[plucky token]

Yep

[supple bane]

That's not too bad

[prime jasper]

servers be like

[plucky token]

Gpu is in idle

With that on 100 as well....

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/voeding-computer-explode-cp-zijn-pc-gif-14578849

[supple bane]

Probably quieter than my pc during gaming tbh

[prime jasper]

OOF

[supple bane]

Gigabyte windforce cards aren't known for having good coolers

The fans have to run at 100% with case fans around 75% to stay under temperature limit of 84c

[weak girder]

thats shit compared to mine

[prime jasper]

go put on a cpu air cooler, a good one

i straped an aio to the 2060 super i have

went for 90c to 50c real quick

[weak girder]

fans at 100^

[digital hill]

DDR5 is here

https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb/p/N82E16820331704

[prime jasper]

sadly i still dont have headphones

XD products compared are DDR3

[digital hill]

also I recommend getting closed back headphones

[weak girder]

I remember seeing an ltt vid that speeds after 3200mhz is useless

[digital hill]

For now

[prime jasper]

no my issue is my earbuds have died completely i cant charge them

[digital hill]

Oh

[prime jasper]

i got 3600mhz

[weak girder]

2933mhz

[digital hill]

3000mhz

[plucky token]

100% with gpu on 100%

[prime jasper]

i have been stuck at work with the only noise being white noise makers and the phone

[weak girder]

sounds like a truck

[plucky token]

Hehe

[prime jasper]

probaly costs about the same

[weak girder]

hahaha

[digital hill]

All those fans look expensive

[weak girder]

that pc looks expensive

[plucky token]

3x 99€

[prime jasper]

people say gaming is expensive, now try cars

[plucky token]

12 of those installed

[digital hill]

also my opinion too much rgb

[plucky token]

I dont see the front while on the pc

[prime jasper]

so 396

[plucky token]

More or less, yes

[weak girder]

yeah it looks like a prebuilt

[prime jasper]

yeah way to bright when i want to leave the pc on to download games

[plucky token]

1 click and the rgb is off

[digital hill]

Ah whats the specs

[plucky token]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6NhVK3

[digital hill]

So many monitors

[plucky token]

just noticed that my AIO is not showing up anymore

3 in use, 1 as reserve

[weak girder]

why 3 60hz monitors

[plucky token]

i got them 6 years ago ish

still working fine for discord or browser

[prime jasper]

how much did the pc cost?

[digital hill]

Ah you got the k100

[weak girder]

57

[plucky token]

the whole setup.. 5k ish

[digital hill]

Jesus

[prime jasper]

dam

i thought my pc was expensive at 3k XD

[digital hill]

I lost my pc value

[plucky token]

if you take the prices i paid, not that are currently available

[digital hill]

Guess around 1-2k

[weak girder]

uhm, mine was 800

[prime jasper]

i got the same 3080 and 12 core ryzen

32gb of 3600 DDR4

[digital hill]

Very rare to get a 3080

[supple bane]

are you running those drives in raid?

[prime jasper]

like 2 tb nvme ssds 1tb sata ssd and a 2tb hard drive

[prime jasper]

yeah i ended up getting a prebuilt

i already plan on changing the fans and case out

as I had to pry the case open to install the new drives -_-

[plucky token]

nope

[digital hill]

@plucky token Full desktop as I am kinda curious on how all those monitors are arranged?

[plucky token]

i got my 3080 without prebuilt or so

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/422598689928773632/852415389383262260/20210608_135056.jpg?width=1082&height=676

[digital hill]

That looks pretty cool

[prime jasper]

nice i only got 2 monitors

[plucky token]

5.1 dolby surround system just for the pc

[digital hill]

I have 2.1 but I have a very powerful sub

[plucky token]

and one for the tv next to it

[prime jasper]

i just use headphones i dont like blasting music as i talk alot in vcs

[plucky token]

https://www.magnat.de/en/Archive/Beta-Sub/Beta-Sub-20A/Betasub-20-A got this one

[digital hill]

I have pretty expensive headphones with amp/dac combo and one headphones and 2 iems

@plucky token I got the dayton 10in sub

[supple bane]

I look forward to the day I can flex my setup as much as you can

[digital hill]

I have a planar magnetic hifiman he-x4, fiio fh3, moondrop starfield, kz zsn pro x, airpods pro

[plucky token]

the thing that bothers me atm, is that my AIO is not showing up anymore

maybe.. i will get an custom watercooler this time

[digital hill]

Ah I want to get one day a Monolith M565C because I want closed back

[prime jasper]

i was thinking about custom water cooling on xmas, should i ?

[plucky token]

sure, why not

just be sure to have enough space

[prime jasper]

do you know any good looking atx cases that would fit a 360 rad?

so i can get rid of this horrible prebuilt case that has already cut me 2x and i cant screw the panels back on

[plucky token]

hmm

corsair 5000D series?

like, my 1000D supports 4x 480mm rads

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-disappointed-will-smith-gif-10856401

[terse stirrup]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[pulsar sentinel]

Lol I've set my UEFI settings to boot from USB but it keeps booting to Windows.

Something's wrong, I can feel it.

But what?

[prime jasper]

have you tried changing the boot order in the bios so it does not pick the win drive straight away?

[pulsar sentinel]

iirc I've changed it

Well looks like it's not bootable, but how?

Confused

[tender rampart]

anyone really good at building pc's wanna help me choose specs and parts for a new build

[pulsar sentinel]

Apparently if I change the order and then restart it will just change the order to Windows again

Is it something that happens when the USB is not bootable or is it some pesky Windows stuff?

[pulsar sentinel]

Nice. It works now!

[stark epoch]

Hey guys anyone has a good idea how to get LG 27GN950-B
and RTX 3080? any bot to help find one or anything?

[storm osprey]

i mean, thats a pretty ideal pairing

idk about bot, ive only used the stockdrops discord to get gpus

[prime jasper]

a wish and a prare

[fallen harbor]

anybody knows if the driver for b450ma requires to be installed through the bios?

or can i just install it from the exe in windows

[stable mountain]

both look shit

[quick locust]

Yeah

[stable mountain]

looks like non aero W7, combined with some ungodly macOS dock

[quick locust]

It's their UI from 10X which meant to compete with chromebooks

[stable mountain]

if i heard the statement from m$ correctly. the leaked build was a test for touch integration so a lot was geared towards that

[pulsar sentinel]

Impostor

[visual quail]

this man has the same specs as me and gets 50 fps on cyberpunk ultra + ray tracing and i dont?

[plucky token]

Something is wrong with your pc

[visual quail]

no wonder it wasnt 1400 dollars like the rest

i get 90 days to return it. if it keeps going then ill just get a refund and go back to ym 1660

[toxic zealot]

what specs

did you upgrade a gpu

[visual quail]

yeah

[toxic zealot]

nvidia drivers can get messed up

if you dont do clean install

[visual quail]

i did

[toxic zealot]

aka manually removing all of nvidia files

[visual quail]

well after i refunded the game i did

[toxic zealot]

for amd idk

also cyberpunk

is fucking

trashly optimized

[visual quail]

but it was terrible for me

[toxic zealot]

i had 30 fps on gtx 1080

lmao

40-50 on lowest settings

[visual quail]

it was like playing on a 660 on ultra but on low

[toxic zealot]

did you try other games

what gpu do you even have

[visual quail]

2070

[toxic zealot]

what resolution

[visual quail]

i tried battlefield but i get higher fps with dx12 than i do dx11

1080p

[toxic zealot]

well yea

dont expect rtx 2070 to be much better than my gtx 1080

in cyberpunk

lmao

[visual quail]

well you're getting 40fps on lowest

higher than what i was getting

[toxic zealot]

which battlefield

whats your cpu

what settings on that battlefield

[visual quail]

i5 9400F

[toxic zealot]

did you turn on raytracing in cyberpunk accidently

[visual quail]

battlefield 5 i had ultra with ray tracing on max

no i checked

[toxic zealot]

or maybe resolution scaling

[visual quail]

i had dlss on ultra performance

still the same

[toxic zealot]

what fps did you get

in bf5

[visual quail]

i tested it in one of the campaign stories

110 average with extremely minor stutters

80-110

[toxic zealot]

yes

so your gpu is not a problem

a guy with i9 9900k and rtx 2070

got 100-120fps

cyberpunk is a problem

[visual quail]

i guess i cant run crysis😔

[toxic zealot]

wdym you cant run crisis

lol

[visual quail]

i cant play cyberpunk at low with dlss on

let alone run crysis

[toxic zealot]

cyberpunk is more demanding than crysis remaster

because its pure garbage code

[visual quail]

cyberpunk was using 22% of my gpu

[toxic zealot]

dont look at task manager lol

it gives fake info

[weak girder]

yep

idk why

[toxic zealot]

msi afterburner for example shows true info

[visual quail]

no i did use msi

[toxic zealot]

but yea in your case its def some

driver issue

[weak girder]

then stop playing cyberbug

[visual quail]

i refunded it cause it was unplayable

[toxic zealot]

but thats cyperpunk fault not nvidia

lmao

[stable mountain]

cyberpunk is pretty shit. even if it ran better it has no replay value to me

[weak girder]

^

[stable mountain]

i struggled through the sidequest because i didn't want to be finished with a "big"' RPG after what felt like 8 hours

[toxic zealot]

i bought cyberpunk before release

it release

played it for 1 hour

refunded

[weak girder]

also the npc's are just horrid

doesnt feel realistic at all

[visual quail]

i couldnt make it pass the part where we bribe the guy

[toxic zealot]

i couldnt make it past the first quest

[stable mountain]

i know it's just me, but being forced into becoming really good friends with someone for a good ending is cursed

because if you piss off panam slightly to much you'll be fucked

it was funny tho, that they made one ripperdoc stop selling to you if you ever punched him in the face during a certain quest

and he had the best jump boosting gear

[pulsar sentinel]

Dang I just installed Arch but I forgot to install the networking tools and ntfs-3g

[visual quail]

110fps on extreme settings on forza 4 and average 60 on watch dogs 2 ultra. guess it was cyberpunk

[pulsar sentinel]

brb, messing with partitions and stuff

Thank God I have a fresh drive

[supple bane]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/

@visual quail

download and run this

and send a link to the web page it opens when its finished

[plucky token]

no

DONT

[supple bane]

why?

[plucky token]

worst website you could use

never even think about it

[supple bane]

for that purpose, not true

the cpu comparison site is corrupt af

but the gpu side of things and the actual benchmark is fine

it gives you a rough idea of what is underperforming

[plucky token]

3dmark for gpu benches

[supple bane]

yes but its not a straight forward is it

and it doesnt do absolutely everything

i agree, if you use it to compare two cpu's. you need to rethink your methods

but for this its perfectly fine

[plucky token]

https://ownsnap.com/userbenchmark-is-not-trusted-by-tech-enthusiasts-find-out-why-this-huge-website-has-a-zero-credibility-in-tech-community/

[supple bane]

m8 ik

i havent been living under a rock

im not going to read that. but i bet if i was i would find they talk about how the cpu comparison section is bullshit

and i would agree

but what im trying to get him to do isnt that section

what im trying to get him to do will just tell us how his hardware compares to the same hardware, the problem comes when you try to compare two different pieces of hardware

[quick locust]

i prefer 3dmark for gpu

geekbench and cinebench for cpu

for consumer ones anyway

[supple bane]

i could tell him to download 3dmark, cinebench, crystal disk mark, and memtest, run all of them, then find results for the same hardware on google and see how he compares

but thats just a pain in the ass

[quick locust]

HEDT has a lot of features that wont be seen in those

[supple bane]

userbenchmark whilst not as accurate as any of those listed above. its just quick

and if something is really fucked then it will tell you what it is

you know some people really dont have the patience to spend like an hour downloading, running and comparing results from benchmarks

thats why i always recommend userbenchmark to people in situations like this were something about his computer is really underperforming

[plucky token]

they fake the nvidia and amd score as well

similar to intel

[supple bane]

youre not listening are you

[plucky token]

20-30%

its just bloatware

if you are interested in tech, go the right way..

[supple bane]

im not asking him to compare hardware >>>:::(((((((((

[plucky token]

no front at all

[supple bane]

the hardware comparision is the corrupt bit

but https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/44040961

that, is fine

[plucky token]

even for testing, whats up when his gpu underperforms 20% but the benchmark of this website pushes it 20% upwards

[supple bane]

no it wont, it does that for the hardware comparison section

but if you are comparing your card to the same card then its fine

which is what im getting him to do

this graph

this graph is all you should take from the page

the numbers, the results, all of that just ignore

that shows my cpu with a 400mhz oc is faster than 99 out of 100 ryzen 5 2600's

and that will be accurate,

all of this, not so much, i wouldnt touch these with a 10 foot barge pole

but yes @plucky token 99% of the website is utter horse shit. you cant use it to compare products, but i maintain thats its perfectly fine to see how your hardware is stacking up out of 100 identical systems

[dry pike]

I would not put it past that site to fail doing this too

[supple bane]

i guess i dont have any way to confirm that its accurate as i dont have two of the same peices of hardware, but from my experience overclocking and seeing how the results change, + never seeing anyone on the internet complain about that. im going to say that its fine

i guess their morals are kind of screwed up too. how they treat the community and journalists isnt acceptable, and i dont like that im supporting them rn

[toxic zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKfnct-j_-c

[molten coral]

[quick locust]

nice

5900x or 5950x?

[modern gull]

Pc upgrades

Did you get it for normal prices?

[orchid folio]

Congrats!

What gpu will you be running with it?

[quick locust]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16795/intel-to-launch-next-gen-sapphire-rapids-xeon-with-high-bandwidth-memory

[pulsar sentinel]

Lol I forgot to install network packages for Arch

Now I have to download them first with Windows and mess with pesky partition incompatibilities

[molten coral]

5900x

[molten coral]

Yes

[modern gull]

[supple bane]

v nice

[molten coral]

CPU prices have been normal for months lol

[supple bane]

be sure to spend some pics when its finished

[toxic zealot]

no

[molten coral]

If I can find the AM4 bracket for my cooler

[modern gull]

I mean you never know these days if some scalpers gonna grind all electronics

[supple bane]

is this your first amd cpu?

well. welcome to the club either way i guess

[toxic zealot]

i might get zen4

maybe

[supple bane]

ill be upgrading my entire pc when rtx 4000 releases

next year

[toxic zealot]

ye

my next gpu will be over twice as fast as my current one

[supple bane]

both my gpu and cpu will be 4 years old when rtx 4000 comes out so it would be right in line for when you should upgrade

[toxic zealot]

mine like 6

lol

[supple bane]

most people say gpu every 4 years and cpu every 5-6

but my cpu was a budget cpu 4 years ago so its starting to show its age now

[weak girder]

some upgrade every 6 months

[toxic zealot]

for gaming at 60hz cpus capped that out long time ago

[quick locust]

my cpu is already 4

but doing well

8700k stronk

[weak girder]

a guy upgraded his 3070 to a 3080

[supple bane]

your cpu was a top of the line cpu 4 years ago though so its fine

[toxic zealot]

i need more cores for multitasking tho

[quick locust]

cheaper than 1700x but faster

and 1800x

[supple bane]

other than HEDT your cpu probably was the fastest gaming cpu when it launched right?

idk if i9 was a thing then

[quick locust]

HEDT is usually slower at gaming

and yes there was 7980xe

[toxic zealot]

threadripper can game

[quick locust]

yes but its worse at it

[toxic zealot]

yes

[quick locust]

same with intel hedt

[toxic zealot]

fast threadrippers can do 144hz tho

[quick locust]

but they arent made for it anyway

[toxic zealot]

lmao

[supple bane]

yeah you really shouldnt buy a tr for gaming

its a multi thousand dollar chip that will be matched or beaten by a 300 dollar chip

[toxic zealot]

5950x can replace a threadripper

tho

[supple bane]

no

[toxic zealot]

unless you need 64 cores

[quick locust]

not really

not in what TR is designed for

[supple bane]

no consumer cpu will ever match TR

[quick locust]

Much higher memory capacity, MUCH more pcie lanes

[supple bane]

nothing can render a scene faster than TR

[quick locust]

special features

[toxic zealot]

yes

but 5950x is as fast or faster than some older hdtd chips

[quick locust]

yes but still worse in most of their usage

[supple bane]

^

[toxic zealot]

tbh i havent seen a single program on linus tech tips

that can use 64 cores

a single application

[supple bane]

there are programs that will utilise 64 cores

[toxic zealot]

linus has tr for a storage rack tho i think?

[quick locust]

LTT is more mainstream

they don't really do anything scientific or compute

[toxic zealot]

for video editing 5950x is prob best overall

[quick locust]

they even run windows on whonnik

[toxic zealot]

not sure if you need extra memory and shit of a high end tr for 8k footage

[quick locust]

it's not just video editing

it's compute workloads

[toxic zealot]

i know it isnt

lmao

[quick locust]

up to 2 TB ram, 128 pcie 4.0 lanes

and a lot of features

[toxic zealot]

even a lot of videogame servers are singlethreaded so

i have no clue what i would use for one

[quick locust]

youre not target audience for TR anyway

[toxic zealot]

wait

actually

i remember

AI dungeon

needs this shit

i actually forgot if it depended more on vram or ram

[quick locust]

servers usually dont use TR or hedt

[toxic zealot]

it had some ridiculous demands

that even dgx 2 could barely manage for the highest end version of it

[supple bane]

do intel even have 64 core chips now that i think about it

[quick locust]

they have 56 max iirc

besides xeon phi

which are discontinued

[supple bane]

what would an example of a 56 core intel cpu be?

[toxic zealot]

8xxx xeons

[quick locust]

Ampere has 128 core cpus soon though

they currently have 80 core

[toxic zealot]

ampere?

[quick locust]

yeah

[toxic zealot]

what is that

the 80 core one

has like

fucking

1.5ghz clocks

xD

or something

[quick locust]

no

[toxic zealot]

its slower than xeons

[quick locust]

3.3 GHz

base

in 7nm

[supple bane]

the 3990x boosts to well past 4ghz iirc on 128 threads lol

[toxic zealot]

are you talking about the gpu based cpu something

that had 80 cores

[quick locust]

no

[toxic zealot]

or something new

[quick locust]

the company ampere

[toxic zealot]

oh

because intel had

80 core slow as fuck cpu

[quick locust]

https://amperecomputing.com/ampere-altra-industrys-first-80-core-server-processor-unveiled/

yeah that was xeon phi as i mentioned

[toxic zealot]

amd will likely have 128 core epyc

[quick locust]

but this is ampere

[toxic zealot]

on zen 4

[quick locust]

a different company

[toxic zealot]

yea

arm chips

[supple bane]

that is THICC

[quick locust]

compared to a ryzen cpu

[toxic zealot]

everyone making arm chips now

[quick locust]

because only 3 companies have licence to make x86

and its restrictive

[supple bane]

how big is the die if the IHS and substrate needs to be that big

[quick locust]

amd, intel and via/khaoxin are only ones with licence

[supple bane]

or does it require way more pins than anything else so it requires a bigger substrate, but the die is the same size

[toxic zealot]

wonder if windows hops on to arms

[quick locust]

this is for servers so would be stupid to run windows on it

cough LTT

[toxic zealot]

yes

i said arms

not 80 core arms

[quick locust]

big boi

[toxic zealot]

since ARM chips might beat intel/amd for consumers

they already do in mobile market though amd is keeping up

[supple bane]

yeah so its just that it requires more pins

[quick locust]

ARM's power advantage doesn't really scale up to these huge cpus

[supple bane]

i imagine the die is a normal size

[quick locust]

so most of their advantage is just that they are competition

[toxic zealot]

cerbras exists too

idk wtf is even that arch

it just says ai optimized cores

[quick locust]

intel getting butchered in this

when 128 core mystique comes it'll be even more

though intel manufacturers far more cpus than amd and ampere does

so they have quantity at least

[toxic zealot]

https://cerebras.net/

[molten coral]

Absolute chonk of a cooler

[modern gull]

Was about to say lul

[quick locust]

now add a 3090 FE to that

then motherboard gone

[modern gull]

Pretty much

[quick locust]

or vega II

also huge

[modern gull]

Rog strix Mothergone

[quick locust]

itx board with that cooler and 3090

[modern gull]

Remember the 3090 being decently sized last time i looked

With the cooler config on my 3070 i think it might be close to the 3080 in the image

[quick locust]

my 2080 ti cooler isnt too big

3 fan but not the thickest

[supple bane]

thats such a good looking cooler

i love the style of it

it would go really well with a founders card

[molten coral]

Only going to use it for 2 weeks

[modern gull]

Water cooling next?

[molten coral]

Already had an AIO but don’t have a AM4 bracket

Got this one for free with the CPU

[supple bane]

cable ties

[modern gull]

Ah i see

[modern gull]

[molten coral]

I mean can’t even close my case

[quick locust]

refrigerant cooling

[supple bane]

man thats so close

just like sanding down the contact pad would probably give you enough clearance lol

oh actually it might be an optical illusion, not that close after all

[dry pike]

looks....dusty

[molten coral]

Its not that bad

[supple bane]

what are you going to do with your 8700k? sell it ?

[modern gull]

Talking about cable ties, my rear fan dont use screws

[solemn berry]

What kinda graphic card will be needed for 2042 ?

[supple bane]

i over tightened all the screws for my fans and bent the case

[modern gull]

[modern gull]

Nobody knows at this stage i'd say

[supple bane]

its really hard to show on camera

can kind of see it there

[solemn berry]

I've been playing all my games on steam on my laptop, with 1050, will hope that it'l be ok

[supple bane]

probably not

thats minimum spec for bfv

[modern gull]

It might work on lowest settings with reduced res scale

[solemn berry]

yeah, i kinda knew that it will be not ok

but i'll just hope for best

[modern gull]

We will have to wait and see. Depends on how the lowest graphics settings are i'd say

[solemn berry]

probably will get it for ps4

[molten coral]

Yeah gonna sell it

Can get around 150-200 for it

[quick locust]

noo one less in 8700k club

[modern gull]

Unsure if i see it

[molten coral]

Had no choice

They don’t sell 1150 boards and I don’t want second hand mobos

[solemn berry]

Btw guys, idk if its only me, but do yall also get annoyed by the origins servers?

[opaque saddle]

I was thinking to sell my 1150 board but too lazy to do so

[quick locust]

not really

origin works fine most of time

[solemn berry]

cause, i always have a problems with connections to the servers of with friends invites to the game

or"

[supple bane]

it would be cool if they did a potato pc mode, or a competitive graphics mode. remember that hack that appeared for bfv that made is super basic and cartoony looking. something like that would be really good

because its not unfair as anyone has access to it.

it broadens the accessibility of the game

[modern gull]

Might be the game don't need much gpu power at lowest setting. Also i would think dice would try and push the lowest graphics settings as low as they can to keep a certain amount of quality. Doubt that non textured environment will be an option one bit to be honest. Its a good thought tho i'd say.

[supple bane]

Bf1 lowest graphics settings were really low. Too low

It made edges all fuzz together and made it even harder to make out objects in a game with even poorer visibility than bfv

So there needs to be a way to increase fps whilst maintaining the ability to make out objects

[quick locust]

switch mode

[supple bane]

Which is why I think removing textures is a good idea

[quick locust]

intel graphics mode

😛

[supple bane]

Yeah lol

[modern gull]

The amd equivalent of dlss could be really nice for people with lower end pc's

[supple bane]

Tru

[modern gull]

I think textures mainly affects vram. More gpu intensive things would be masked materials or overdraw from foliage. Shadows, lighting in general

[quick locust]

all loaded textures are in vram so yeah

[modern gull]

There also is a limit how far they could reduce certain stuff at low settings so it wont be unfair for those who use max graphics

[quick locust]

cough ULQ in war thunder for a while

a lot of bushes etc wasnt shown

at distance

giving stupid high visibility

there was nvidia nspect for BFV

[modern gull]

BF4 had a somewhat issue like this where the reduced rendering distance would make certain objects invisible to people using low graphics but visible to max graphics user, allowing low graphics users to see trough some objects and pre fire the enemy.

[modern gull]

Ah i see

Bushes which are large and people would probably hide in should ideally be visible at most if not all ranges

They could set up the LOD's to keep players hidden in the bushes at longer range but also improve performance.

Oooouuu

[harsh mist]

Is a ryzen 7 5800x, rtx 3070 and 32gb ram enough for bf2042?

[quick locust]

Noone knows, but it should

Otherwise most people would have big trouble..

you have high specs

[harsh mist]

Pog

[weak girder]

why do you even buy a high end pc if youre gonna ask those questions

[harsh mist]

Cuz i dont wanna spend that much money without even knowing if it will run the games i wanna play

[coarse nimbus]

Will top of the line hardware be good?

Although isn't the 5800x the worst value for a cpu

[midnight crypt]

Nah thats 5950x

[supple bane]

i wouldnt say the 5950x is a bad value cpu

its not really a gaming cpu, its HEDT, and for content creation and rendering it crushes anything intel has to offer, only threadripper beats it really

[coarse nimbus]

@storm osprey talked about that the other week I thought

[inland goblet]

yeah it 100% will be enough

like ik the specs arent out yet but cmon, lets be honest here

we dont know the exact frame rates but u will 100% run

if thats what ur asking

[molten coral]

juicy

Only thing that isn't working now is windows key but oh well

[supple bane]

hows that cooler holding up?

[storm osprey]

for just gaming 5800x is one of the least compelling values out there

though better than 11700k and 11900k, but thats not saying much

[molten coral]

not amazing

I'm not even doing anything atm

[supple bane]

well.. cinebench it! >:(

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/evga-teases-amd-based-motherboard-x570-dark-coming

EVGA making AMD motherboard

Yo I heard crypto got hit so hard in China that they started selling off mining equipment (video cards, ASIC) by per weight, not per unit

[coarse nimbus]

Lul...us going to be number one mining spot in the world this year or next

[quick locust]

New AMD proprietary driver for linux

Version 21.20

Not big changes though

[dusk quarry]

Do yall think i will be able to run 1440p on bf2042 with ryzen 3700x and 5700xt. I have 200 fps on bf4 with ultra.

[coarse nimbus]

Bf4 engine is ancient

[inland goblet]

If anything base it off of the fps u get in BFV

But then again no specs

So just wait

[weak girder]

maybe but we dont know for sure and bf4 is too old to be a reference

[inland goblet]

^

[prime jasper]

yo anybody know someone in china i could pay to go get someone to buy some 3080s for me XD

[maiden cave]

hey ppl, I got a problem... I downloaded BF3 but when I want to play, I cant look around... I can walk, but I it feels like it doesnt see my mouse... but when I press ESC and go to game menu, I see the mouse... anybody has experience with this ?

[fallen harbor]

if you have any controller plugged in the pc, unplug it

or tablet

[maiden cave]

no controller. nothing

just, mouse, keyboard, speakers and new

net

[prime jasper]

Might be a program taking priority over the mouse and keyboard if that could be possible.

[maiden cave]

but how can I solve it XD

[prime jasper]

Well this might be a useless fix but have you tried verifying your game files on origin to see if that could possibly fix it.

[weak girder]

send me your bank account and Ill solve it

[prime jasper]

Do you take bitcoin

[weak girder]

only

[prime jasper]

ew bitcoin

gotta get that dogecoin

[prime jasper]

Well I hear that Ethereum soon will be bringing out smart contracts soon so that might be catching up to bitcoin

[prime jasper]

No you got to get that TRON coin to play the arcade games

[prime jasper]

[west imp]

I'm just waiting for them to confirm a RSP program with bf2042

[harsh mist]

Will a Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming work with a ryzen 5800x?

Sorry if i'm being stupid i'm kinda new to this whole pc thing

[supple bane]

yes it will

[harsh mist]

Pog

[inland goblet]

[dry pike]

Guess the Nvidia support is secured then https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1409944874879787009?s=19

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

NEWS: #Battlefield 2042 will support both NVIDIA DLSS and NVIDIA Reflex’s low latency mode on #PC.

Official Console Partner: Xbox.
Official Peripherals Partner: Logitech.
Official Off-Road Vehicle Partner: Polaris.
Official Gaming Storage Partner: Western Digital BLACK.

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[coarse nimbus]

Are you using the build a PC webpage?

[harsh mist]

Pcpartpicker.com

Well i'm not fully pc noob, just some of tge compabilities ixm not sure about

[prime jasper]

Anyone know a fix to the fps symbol I have the settings turned down I can run the game 150 plus but still get it BF4 BTW..

[tribal fossil]

quick question does anybody know if a gtx 1050 will run battlefield 4 fine?

[prime jasper]

@tribal fossil Yes

[tribal fossil]

Thank you

[near rune]

Ofcourse it will

Battlefield 4 is an old game

[tribal fossil]

Okay

Thank you

[mystic shoal]

this is honestly hilarious

it appeared in my 'recommended products' section

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724673151061065825/859516981342633994/unknown.png

oh no it failed to load

[near rune]

It didn't

You dont have embed perms

[mystic shoal]

oh

right

im stupid

[midnight crypt]

Its alienware what did you expect

[weak girder]

top of the line pc and fully worth its price

[mystic shoal]

true

[mystic shoal]

indeed

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Nh3p6779E

[prime jasper]

Is my GPU dead if my laptop isn’t detecting it?

The GPU is internal btw

[toxic zealot]

could be just some pin getting damaged

wdym detected

does it still work

@prime jasper

[prime jasper]

Well, I only found out when I tried playing bf4 on my laptop

I was wondering why i was having terrible frames

It was using the intel graphics

[toxic zealot]

so well

[prime jasper]

Instead of nvidia

[toxic zealot]

hopeful: some pin died

[prime jasper]

I tried to open nvidia control panel but the gpu wasn’t detected

[toxic zealot]

if it has fan

[prime jasper]

Can it be fixed in a repair shop?

[toxic zealot]

and it still spins after you open it

it might be still working

depends

in laptops its not uncommon that a some low quality solder pins get fucked

[prime jasper]

Damn

[toxic zealot]

that happens all the time with macbook for example

[prime jasper]

Whats funny is that i deleted and reinstalled the drivers and windows

The gpu got detected

And now its gone

[toxic zealot]

how old is the laptop

[prime jasper]

2 years

[toxic zealot]

cant you get it on warranty

[prime jasper]

It had a one year warranty sadly

[toxic zealot]

( backup your data )

oh well

what model of laptop is it

[prime jasper]

Asus ROG STRIX

Oh yea i forgot to mention

[toxic zealot]

@prime jasper did you try reinstalling the drivers

[prime jasper]

One time the fan went so loud and my laptop crashed

[prime jasper]

I tried but it won’t install cuz it doesn’t detect a GPU

[toxic zealot]

well that sounds bad

if the laptop psu accidently powerspiked your gpu

[prime jasper]

How does that happen? When you keep it plugged in all the time?

[toxic zealot]

randomly

if psu is shit

[prime jasper]

Oh my god

Even if the gpu is dead at least I can use it for work

Just with a crappy intel gpu

[toxic zealot]

im 90% certain it is now

[prime jasper]

How much do you think it costs to replace the parts

It’s a 1660 Ti btw

[toxic zealot]

depends

not sure how your local guys charge

oh

btw

bitcoin

big gpu prices