technology

[supple bane]

erm. doubt

[chrome skiff]

Do you have the launcher in one folder then the game in another?

[supple bane]

pretty sure i dont

i didnt do that intentionally if thats how it is

yeah i looked everywhere, no other files to be found

nvm. found it

it installed its self in its own directory, not under steam. its on the right drive at least

[chrome skiff]

ah okay I was asking cause I've seen people move it and not know

[chrome skiff]

I'm undervolting my 3080ti now and gaining performance with no stability issues. I hate this generation of gpus

[supple bane]

has anyone else noticed the weather thing on the hotbar with the latest windows update is blurry

[chrome skiff]

I shut it off instantly so I can't say

[storm rune]

yea it isn't sharp

[quick locust]

https://www.techspot.com/news/90033-google-abandons-experiment-show-simplified-urls-chrome-due.html

[wanton sky]

https://explore.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-software-fidelityfx-super-resolution/survey
"What are your three favorite PC games that you’d like to see support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution? Let us know, as AMD is looking for feedback on the top titles to potentially add FSR to."

AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution also works with Nvidia video cards. Maybe if we fill in Battlefield 2042 this feature will maybe come to the game (if BF2042 isn't already one of the games). Extra fps will be a win win for all BF2042 gamers.

Info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHPmkJzwOFc

[fallen harbor]

when will gpus come back to our plane of existence again?

[plucky token]

Hmmm

You want the nice or the lesser nice answer?

[wanton sky]

I don't think within 12 months

[quick locust]

Intel's might be in a bit better supply

Maybe

[raven yarrow]

so

[fallen harbor]

the best answer

[plucky token]

mid to end 2022

[fallen harbor]

yikety yikes

[wanton sky]

I don't think people should wait for a specific AIB Nvidia or AMD video card. If you can get a video card you want (a RTX 3080 or 6800 XT) for a +/- good price, just buy it

[fallen harbor]

you are talking as if there were 3080s and 6800s around for a more or less good price

[digital hill]

Well telsa did it

First car to run cyberpunk 2077

[proud trellis]

lol

[coarse nimbus]

did it crash?

[heady pawn]

in what way?

[coarse nimbus]

i mean asking that about a tesla could mean it in 2 ways 😱

[wanton sky]

I don't know if you can buy Nvidia cards for a good price. But you can buy AMD cards for MSRP

[fallen harbor]

msrp?

[solar kestrel]

manufacturer's suggested retail price

[fallen harbor]

uh the amds in my country are as ovepriced as nvidia atm

[warm lynx]

could this handle 1440p bf1 at +60fps? ryzen 7 2700 rtx 3070 16gb

[fallen harbor]

trolling?

most likely

anyway

[sudden raft]

lol

[fallen harbor]

my friend gets 100% usage of his cpu in the performance tab of task manager, but in the processes tab there's nothing that sums up 100%

anybody knows what this might be?

[weak girder]

why do you buy a powerful system if you don't even know what its capable of?

[warm lynx]

i know what the parts of capable of, i want to know if they work well together

[weak girder]

well of course its gonna run well at 1440p

with 144 fps

[warm lynx]

cool

[fallen harbor]

man look at his nickname

why do you even respond to him

[coarse nimbus]

msrp is the suggested retail price but yeah..good luck

[warm lynx]

no

[verbal cliff]

bf2042 recommended specs been revealed yet?

[coarse nimbus]

the alpha hasnt even happened yet

[opaque saddle]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[modern gull]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-fire-gif-18709628

Any pc that tries to run Battlefield: 2042

[short pier]

Dubious

[prime jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5DuXeqnA-w

[quick scroll]

hey yall what do you think is the lowest end graphics card that will run BF 2042 properly

[sinful mantle]

properly? The most popular card now is the GTX 1060 I'm sure Dice is aware of this ....so that's my best guess...also since the GTX 960 runs BFV on high (with custom Nvidia settings) this might cut it

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kvkqb/how-ea-games-was-hacked-slack

they use Slack channel?

would seem wiser for EA to use a deep web URL

[warm lynx]

id recommend a 1660 or the ti version, but it also depends on other parts of the pc

[sinful mantle]

he said lowest end

[warm lynx]

1060, 960 would not do too well

[sinful mantle]

GTX 960 about the lowest end card I can think of that might could render BF2042 prperly

i use both cards for BFV 960 on high 1060 on ultra

[warm lynx]

what do you get?

[twin beacon]

Hopefully 2070 will be fine

[sinful mantle]

so I'm asuming EA doesnt want to alienate their player base by going too off the BFV mark

i get a steady 60 frames on both cards

[warm lynx]

wow

[sinful mantle]

custom Nvidia settings go a long way

[warm lynx]

i gotta look into those

[sinful mantle]

ill send you my configs if you need

what card you running now?

[warm lynx]

lemme check

1650

[sinful mantle]

nice card you shouldnt have any difficulty

[warm lynx]

i cant run bf1 at 30 on low

[sinful mantle]

low???

why low...your probably bottlenecking your CPU

go up to at least medium and see your frames improve

your card isnt being driven hardly at all

[warm lynx]

no its worse on medium

and on high, and ultra

[sinful mantle]

what's your CPU?

[warm lynx]

i5-10300H

[sinful mantle]

well the thing is your GPU is a lot more powerful than your CPU on low your taking the load off your GPU and placing it on CPU

[warm lynx]

i try running it on ultra but i get 15fps

[sinful mantle]

basic question are you running with motion blur on?

[warm lynx]

no

[sinful mantle]

have you ever checked out Nvidia's control panel?

[warm lynx]

nah

[sinful mantle]

would you like to custom set it via control panel?...no config files just settings

[warm lynx]

yea

[sinful mantle]

okay imma DM you and turn you on to my settings

[warm lynx]

aight

[sinful mantle]

your not accepting DMs message me

[warm lynx]

ok

neither are you

[sinful mantle]

hum...looks like one of us muted one of us at some point....haha

must have been some tift in general chat

what was your old nick?

[warm lynx]

i never had a nickname

[sinful mantle]

you're new here?

[warm lynx]

yea

[sinful mantle]

weird

[warm lynx]

joined when i saw the trailer

[sinful mantle]

why that nick?

[warm lynx]

you mean why is my name Deleted User?

[sinful mantle]

yeah

[warm lynx]

i messed with some guys a few months ago and i never bothered changing my name back

[sinful mantle]

okay go to general voice ill walk you through my custom control panel settings

[warm lynx]

i dont have speakers and my headset broke

[sinful mantle]

oh well

[warm lynx]

well im getting a new build soon so its not really worth it either

[sinful mantle]

right click on desktop...then select Nvidia control panel....manage 3-d settings ...choose programs....BFV

[warm lynx]

aight

[sinful mantle]

hang ill copy paste settings instead of going through each

[warm lynx]

aight

[sinful mantle]

remember if you dont like these you can always restore (upper right)

Image shapening: OFF
Anistropic filtering: Off
Antialiasing – FXAA: Off
Antialiasing – Gamma correction: Off
Antialiasing – Mode: Off
Antialiasing – Setting: None
Antialiasing – Transparency: Off
Maximum pre-rendered frames: 1
Power management mode: Prefer maximum performance
Shader Cache: On
Texture filtering – Anistropic sample option: Off
Texture filtering – Negative LOD bias: Allow
Texture filtering – Quality: High performance
Texture filtering – Trilinear optimization: Off
Threaded optimization: On
Triple buffering: Off
Vertical sync: Off

[quick scroll]

@sinful mantle @warm lynx thanks both

[sinful mantle]

glad to help quertyquirgle

[warm lynx]

aight thanks

[sinful mantle]

not problem Deleted user

[warm lynx]

i have an amazing computer lined up

[sinful mantle]

nice what ya getting?

my guy is bf4 optimized im ready for a new one myself...hope I can manage one more BF

[warm lynx]

ryzen 7 2700 rtx 3070 16gb and 3tb of storage

huge upgrade

[sinful mantle]

wonderful...might I suggest 32 gigs ram...I believe BF2042 might be ram intensive...though 16 would work...im thinking every BF it seems to double

[warm lynx]

i might get 32

[sinful mantle]

well maybe not every but BF4 was 8...BFV was 16 so I'm sorta speculating

[warm lynx]

but what i have now is and i5 gtx 1650 8gb and 256 of storage

[sinful mantle]

right I have a AMD FX 8350...both of our systems are mules but getting tired

[warm lynx]

that 3070 is so exciting

[sinful mantle]

i feel ya

[warm lynx]

my friend has a gaming beast, with a 2 core processor , integrated graphics of course, 4gb of ram, and a massive 64gb of total storage

[sinful mantle]

wtf??...lol and he playes bf1942?

actually that would have been a beast for BF2

[warm lynx]

it doesnt even have fans

[sinful mantle]

dont need fans...hahaha

[warm lynx]

no i touched it once and it burnt

and his insane cpu is directly under the wasd keys

[sinful mantle]

probably a decent media box though...streaming movies and such

[sinful mantle]

what alien device might this be?

[warm lynx]

he bought it 3rd party and it only had a trial version of windows

[sinful mantle]

i was thinking of buying one of those pocket PCs for a streaming device

[warm lynx]

no it has like a 14in display so its pretty large

[warm lynx]

thats probably an upgrade

[sinful mantle]

that is a full fledged PC

[warm lynx]

he hooked his gaming beast to a 70hz projector

[sinful mantle]

800x600 resolution?

[warm lynx]

i have no idea

it overheated and shut off

[sinful mantle]

heh-heh...poor thing

[warm lynx]

he cant even get 20fps in minecraft on the lowest settings

[sinful mantle]

you gonna give him yours when you upgrade?

[warm lynx]

nah selling this thing

[sinful mantle]

you should im crying for him now

[warm lynx]

hes building a desktop

[sinful mantle]

thats a relief

[warm lynx]

i tried playing on it and got 1% of 1 frame every 10 seconds on minecraft

it was like a slide show

[sinful mantle]

he should sell it to a museum

[warm lynx]

he tried running shaders

and it froze his game

[sinful mantle]

im thinking of restoring one of my AMD T-birds

[warm lynx]

i used to console, when i bought this thing i knew nothing about computers

[sinful mantle]

last console I had was ps1

[warm lynx]

i had xbox 1

[sinful mantle]

played Doom and Road Rash

[warm lynx]

i use to use one of those dreamcast things

[sinful mantle]

i never had the first machines

[warm lynx]

with the dream cast you'd have your own memory thing that you'd plug into the controller

it was so strange

[sinful mantle]

yeah gaming and tech is so amazing when you think of how far its gotten in so few years

[warm lynx]

yeah

i had this one laptop that takes 5 minutes to open chrome now

[sinful mantle]

i need a faster machine

missed getting SSDs

[warm lynx]

i dont have a ssd on this

[sinful mantle]

i suppose I can get one now...but like you I want a totally new machine

[warm lynx]

dont cheap out on storage

get a good amount

[sinful mantle]

nope it blew my mind how soon I ate up a terabyte drive

[warm lynx]

with the 256 i have now i have to delete a battlefield and reinstall the next one i want

[sinful mantle]

fuck my first PC had 40 gigs and that was massive for back then...and I had a whopping 32 Mb ram...up from 16

[warm lynx]

can you only open like two tabs on it now

[sinful mantle]

i still have that bitch with a burned out memory controler...im looking for a mobo for it now...love to boot that old fucker up again just for laughs

[warm lynx]

id rather put that money to a new build

[sinful mantle]

a 1 gig AMD T-Bird processor...and that was amazing back then when most machines were 333Mhz

[warm lynx]

i have no experience with old computers

[sinful mantle]

funny but the price through the years seem to remain the same

[warm lynx]

the oldest computers i have used are those box imacs

[sinful mantle]

$1,200 - $2,200 range

for gaming at least

[warm lynx]

the one i mentioned its 1,700

[sinful mantle]

thats about right

thats right in the middle of the prices i mentioned

[warm lynx]

hp sells a $100,000 pc

[sinful mantle]

fuck that...even if i were a millionaire i wouldnt buy something as audacious as that

[warm lynx]

but imagine how many frames you might get on csgo

[sinful mantle]

i configered one for the hell of it that costs $20k

but really i wouldnr even spend that much if i were bill gates

its insane...and totally hedonistic

[warm lynx]

i want the pc for tetris

[sinful mantle]

hahaha...you can have my T-bird

imma play q3 with it again

[warm lynx]

hmm i actually wonder if my friend could run csgo

[sinful mantle]

probably CS 1.6

[warm lynx]

i used to think the go meant mobile version

who knew it meant counter strike globally offensive

[sinful mantle]

not me

last CS i played was 1.6 in fact

soon as I played bf42 demo I was hooked on BF

[warm lynx]

i thought everyone had csgo in their steam library

[modern gull]

You havent tried the new ones at all?

[sinful mantle]

i actually have it

[modern gull]

Ah i see

[sinful mantle]

but never played it ...no

[modern gull]

I remember playing soo much CSS

[sinful mantle]

Klik i have a half dozen games Ive never played yet

[modern gull]

Same actually on steam

[sinful mantle]

im just a BF fan boy...heh-heh

[modern gull]

maybe 10-20 games i havent played yet

[modern gull]

lul

[sinful mantle]

yeah me too including GTA5

[modern gull]

lul you didnt play gta 5?

[sinful mantle]

no...lol...i havent even opened it yet

[modern gull]

[sinful mantle]

ive been meaning to but well you know how addicting the BF games are

the one game I promised myself to play this summer is Elite dangerous

[warm lynx]

zen what build are you looking at

[sinful mantle]

havent really decided this GPU crap has me sitting on the fence

[warm lynx]

i hate the whole gpu thing

[sinful mantle]

@modern gull this DLC for Elite Dangerous https://www.elitedangerous.com/

[modern gull]

I havent tried that game before

Looks kind of cool

[sinful mantle]

its like eve online in FP with a FPS DLC

you know Star Citizen?

it's like that but playable

[modern gull]

Havent tried any lol. But i assume you can go from planet to planet?

[sinful mantle]

yes they have built the milky way in fact...well close to it

[modern gull]

Oooouuu interesting

[sinful mantle]

mine , transport, fight, pirate, bounty hunt, etc...plus now FPS on planets that you control or want to take

yeah it is,,,but they found bugs on release gonna wait until things are sorted out...i do have the base game though...just havent selected my ship yet

[modern gull]

Oh i see, i see

[plucky token]

Elite Dangerous is hard for new players and takes ALOT of time

like. ALOT

[arctic dragon]

!specs

!!specs

[wanton sky]

Check AMD.com 🙂 There's no stock at the moment, I know. There are drops almost every Thursday

[vernal meadow]

i have gt720m what gpu should i get for 2042 and processor on a budget price?

[supple bane]

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[wanton sky]

It's better to wait for the official specs before buying new components

[vernal meadow]

Oh gonna save money i guess shit!Mom i need $

[wanton sky]

But a GT720M is a laptop video card or what?

[vernal meadow]

Laptop

dell latitude e5440 i7 4600u

12 gb ram ddr3 ssd 512 sandisk

it can run bf1 on low i need an upgrade

[wanton sky]

If you have the money, I would recommend a desktop PC instead of a laptop

[solid stirrup]

Hello here I am, in #technology

[vernal meadow]

Hi

[solid stirrup]

Hi

[vernal meadow]

nah i dont have much budget i guess i just buy the game now after a year or two when i have job i can play it xD

[solid stirrup]

I mean you can buy it now and play it later if you want to

I will do that if my PC is too weak to run the game

[vernal meadow]

yea my pc is weak im studying rn when i have job ill build a pc and can play it then 😂

[solid stirrup]

Alright, its up to you to decide

[wanton sky]

Consoles are also expensive now

[solid stirrup]

Yeah, a PS5 goes up to 1000€ here

[wanton sky]

Same here

[vernal meadow]

i'll buy it just like bfv and bf1 my pc is weak but im owing games ah! 😂

[vernal meadow]

in Pakistan here everything is expensive

[solid stirrup]

Somewhere near me there are PS5s for 800, but that's still over MSRP

Game prices are fine, about 60€

[raven yarrow]

.

[wanton sky]

Maybe it's better then to look for a new laptop? GPU's are too expensive now + no stock, same with consoles

[solid stirrup]

I mean... still expensive, but theyre fine compared to console prices

[vernal meadow]

I dont have money and my parents wont give me that much !
ill be doing a job in a year from now.. then ill buy on my own xD

[solid stirrup]

If you can take the pain of plugging in an external GPU, you could use your laptop for BF2042

[supple bane]

i doubt his laptop can use an external gpu

[wanton sky]

If you don't have the money, I should wait until you can get something good. Don't buy low end things

[supple bane]

it requires a thunderbolt port. and thats only found on highend laptops

[vernal meadow]

i dont know if my latitude e5440 have it or not

[supple bane]

most certainly not

[solid stirrup]

Its a 2013 laptop

[supple bane]

its a highend feature, id only expect to see it on laptops costing near or above the 1000 mark

[vernal meadow]

2013*

[solid stirrup]

Ah ok, 2013

[vernal meadow]

oh i should study now for a year and get a job biuld my own pc then play xD

[supple bane]

i wouldnt bother buying bf2042 with that laptop

you are just wasting money. wait till you have a decent pc

[vernal meadow]

i guess i wasted money on nfs heat bfv and bf1 xD

[solid stirrup]

Well, I have a PC, and it most likely can't run BF 2042, but l still might buy it.

[supple bane]

well if you can play at 480p on low settings with possibly less than 30 fps then thats on you

knock yourself out

but i certainly wouldnt be buying games with a laptop like that

[solid stirrup]

Laptops can overheat, too

[vernal meadow]

Ah money money money xD

[vernal meadow]

yup they does

[solid stirrup]

You can still play Battlefield 4, which is kinda similar to 2042

[supple bane]

doubt

i really dont think that laptop will play anything 3d related

[vernal meadow]

yup bf3 and bf4 runs decent on my laptop

[supple bane]

define decent?

[solid stirrup]

He has already mentioned that he can run BF1 in 25 FPS

[supple bane]

yeah thats not running decent tho. thats unplayable

[vernal meadow]

i7 4600u
gt 720m 2gb ddr3
ddr3 1600 mhz 12gb ram
ssd 512 gb

[vernal meadow]

gamer can compromise

xD

[solid stirrup]

SSD? Did you replace the HDD or

[supple bane]

it has a dedicated gpu which is good i guess

[vernal meadow]

yea i replaced hdd & i replaced 8gb with 12gb ram

[supple bane]

but its a terrible gpu at that

[solid stirrup]

Still, the 720M is not a powerhouse, it's very slow compared to, idk, a 750 Ti

[vernal meadow]

Yup its low

[supple bane]

i think the integrated graphics on the cpu may actually be faster

[vernal meadow]

i know that hurts 😢

[wanton sky]

GT 720M (100%) => GeForce GTX 550 Ti (266%)

[vernal meadow]

its intel 4400 on integrated gpu 0 gpu 1 nvidia gt 720m

[solid stirrup]

He can at least try to disable his dedicated card

Actually

Nevermind

[supple bane]

no it is not

[solid stirrup]

The integrated card is VERY slow

[supple bane]

the 720m is slightly faster than the hd4400

[vernal meadow]

yup

[supple bane]

modern integrated graphics will thrash that tho

[solid stirrup]

Slightly faster... that's a suprise

Vega 8 integrated can run any modern game quite well

[vernal meadow]

im gonna sold my laptop rip uni and software engeenering xD

[supple bane]

modern integrated graphics vs the 720m

[wanton sky]

Oh wow haha

[solid stirrup]

Please, don't use UserBenchmark.

[supple bane]

the gpu side is fine

the cpu side is the bad side

[wanton sky]

I was looking to this one https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gt-720m.c2297

[plucky token]

never ever use this trash website...

[solid stirrup]

UserBenchmark is not trushtworthy

[supple bane]

i would never use the cpu side as an accurate comparision

but the gpu benchmark is perfectly fine

[opaque saddle]

Yeah I do the same

I don’t trust CPU benchmarks at all

[solid stirrup]

I use sites like TechPowerUp

[opaque saddle]

But I usually look at the YouTube benchmarking videos as references

[plucky token]

gpu benchmark go to 3DMark

[supple bane]

my problem with 3d mark is that its a paid software

meaning mostly enthusiasts will use it

[wanton sky]

You can buy it sometimes for +/- 4 Euros

[supple bane]

enthusiasts with well tuned OC's

[plucky token]

there is a free version of it

[vernal meadow]

Discussion result : Cant run bf2042 on my current laptop need upgrade xD

[supple bane]

i also own it tho, im not hating on 3d mark

[wanton sky]

Upgrade

[solid stirrup]

The GT 640 is faster than the 720M, well, that tells us something about how slow/fast it is

[supple bane]

not very

lol

[opaque saddle]

Btw…

!!specs

[silent oasis]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[opaque saddle]

!!bfvspecs

[silent oasis]

ℹ Battlefield V: System Requirements:
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451791186642993152/509053395768705024/sys.png

[vernal meadow]

donations xD

[wanton sky]

We told him already there are no specs atm 🙂

[opaque saddle]

BFVspecs is a new command

[supple bane]

is there a..

!!bf1specs

[solid stirrup]

No

[supple bane]

no :(

[opaque saddle]

Nope

I shall look at up

If we still have it lol

[solid stirrup]

OS: 64-bit Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10.

Processor (AMD): AMD FX-6350.

Processor (Intel): Core i5 6600K.

Memory: 8GB RAM.

Graphics card (AMD): AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB.

Graphics card (Nvidia): Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 2GB.

DirectX: 11.0 Compatible video card or equivalent

Minimum.

[supple bane]

i dont need to know the bf1 specs lol

i was just wondering if that was a command

[keen cypress]

Lol

[supple bane]

my pc is perfectly capable of running bf1

[vernal meadow]

i have a pc too btw in the closet xD

[keen cypress]

You guys all run higher than 60hz monitors right?

[supple bane]

i do

[solid stirrup]

I'm not sure how but I can run BF1 at 60 FPS(most of the time), and my PC is under the minimum requirements.

[keen cypress]

I couldn't imagine an fps gamer playing at 60fps in 2021

[vernal meadow]

Xeon w3580 with rx470 4gb but i dont remember if my dad sold out the gpu

[opaque saddle]

Remember the time intel makes a few percent differences on their cpu?

[solid stirrup]

I don't. I have a 60hz 5:4 monitor.

[keen cypress]

5:4?

[wanton sky]

I think you can use the DXR specs of BF5 for BF2042 for now, as a reference if you want to be safe. But... we don't know the specs so it can be wrong

[opaque saddle]

1280x1024

[keen cypress]

Wtf aspect ratio is that?

[solid stirrup]

Yes.

[opaque saddle]

Very old monitor

[solid stirrup]

1280x1024 is the default resolution

[opaque saddle]

Like 15 years old

[solid stirrup]

The thing is, I got it 4 years ago.

[supple bane]

i dont think it would be that high.

[wanton sky]

That was my first monitor ever haha

[solid stirrup]

Lol

[opaque saddle]

I was using one of those back then

[vernal meadow]

What about xeonw3580 with rx 4704gb

[opaque saddle]

Like 15 years ago

[keen cypress]

I've never heard of a 5:4 ratio before

[solid stirrup]

That can most likely run BF 2042 fine @vernal meadow

[wanton sky]

I know but if you want to be safe (decent quality and fps), you can look to that

[opaque saddle]

5:4 is a weird resolution but it makes sense if you are reading the websites

[supple bane]

well i meet those specs so that would be nice if that is the case lol

[opaque saddle]

I mean the articles

[vernal meadow]

i think dad sold that gpu away but cpu is here dell t3500 i guess

[solid stirrup]

I have to use a VGA to DVI converter for the monitor to work

[keen cypress]

Omg

[opaque saddle]

It is really old tech

[wanton sky]

Dell isn't a CPU brand 😉

[keen cypress]

You're the kid who had a jammed 500gb HDD?

[vernal meadow]

no the casing towerpc t3500

[keen cypress]

@solid stirrup

[solid stirrup]

Huh?

Jammed?

I don't think so

[keen cypress]

Like full

[wanton sky]

Do you have a link to it?

[solid stirrup]

Yeah, full

4GB of space left

[vernal meadow]

ah puff no :3

https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/desktops-all-in-one-pcs/dell-precision-t3500-tower-computer-workstation/spd/precision-t3500

got it

[solid stirrup]

https://youtu.be/FdFiuI0mbMY
Precision T3500

[keen cypress]

Damn kid, respect for playing games at all. You're setup is crazy to me

[opaque saddle]

I had a 8GB HDD on my desktop when I was 9

Was Using Used parts to assemble a desktop

[vernal meadow]

my first pc was core i5 2400
gt 610
8 gb ddr3

[solid stirrup]

Thanks. Somehow I'm able to run some modern titles just fine, most likely it's the CPU, the GPU is too slow.

[keen cypress]

I wouldn't be surprised if you used a typewriter and a ergo mouse to game

[wanton sky]

This one is better (same PC but with specs) https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/313364/dell-precision-t3500-3500-1716/specificaties/ (in Dutch)

[opaque saddle]

my first desktop was Pentium 3

I got that when I was… 4? Or 5

[solid stirrup]

My first PC had a Pentium 3, 128MB RAM, 40GB HDD, in 2013.

[keen cypress]

In 2013!

[solid stirrup]

Yes

Not sure if its exactly 2013

I don't remember

[vernal meadow]

me too in 2014 core i5 2400

[keen cypress]

That tech would have been half a decade old at that time

[opaque saddle]

Oh I got that when between 2001 and 2002

[solid stirrup]

Actually it was over 10 years old at the time(CPU)

[vernal meadow]

im a gamer since i was a kid xD my dad used to play IGI 1 and IGI 2 thats where i got in loved with games

[keen cypress]

Shiiit

[solid stirrup]

The Pentium 3 was released in 1999

[opaque saddle]

My current desktop has a R5 3600 with RTX 2070SUPER

[vernal meadow]

rich dude :3

[keen cypress]

All the guys I know that started on really shit hardware are software devs now

[opaque saddle]

Not really

[wanton sky]

Nice! My current desktop: Ryzen 9 5900X, 32GB RAM, RX 6900 XT, 3TB SSD

[solid stirrup]

Between 2015 and 2019 I've had a decent enough PC, Athlon 64 X2 5000+, Nvidia 6150SE, 1GB RAM, 80GB HDD, the GPU died in 2020, if it didn't, I'd still be using it

[opaque saddle]

People can get better and expensive parts then I do, but I went for what I could possibly afford

[keen cypress]

Yea that's totally fair

[opaque saddle]

I had a Athlon 64 x2 4000+

Was playing BF3 on it

It was bad

[keen cypress]

I didn't get into PCs until I had already left school and could afford decent gear

[opaque saddle]

I’m current studying at uni

[vernal meadow]

me too

[keen cypress]

I'm 24 btw, you guys seem super young hahaha

[opaque saddle]

24 this year

[keen cypress]

Ayy

When?

[vernal meadow]

me 21

[opaque saddle]

September

Hmm can you not

[keen cypress]

Oh damn, I was only having a laugh haha

But fair enough

[opaque saddle]

People can be a teenager from this server

Or an adult

[keen cypress]

Yeah I get ya

[supple bane]

[solid stirrup]

Ok, I got it.

[keen cypress]

Keep it pg

[opaque saddle]

Please. Remember this is a public server, don’t forget to read the #500058972234055710

[vernal meadow]

Im in uni too 2nd sem / 8th sem. Studying Software eng.

[opaque saddle]

Anyway. I grew up with CRT monitors and switched to 4:3 and 5:4 monitors afterward

Turns out i have bought 3 monitors last year

[solid stirrup]

I'm not sure if I should buy a monitor or a GPU for 100€

[vernal meadow]

i have started from LCD to LED

[opaque saddle]

An 34” ultrawide 3440x1440 at 144hz
27” 1440p 144hz
27” 2160p 60hz

[vernal meadow]

bro pls xD dont flex

[solid stirrup]

I've grew up using a Dell CRT.

I am not able to find images of it online, but it was a Dell.

[opaque saddle]

You can run as long as the monitor supports the bandwidth

[keen cypress]

Good luck mate, I'm an ex software dev. Now I'm working on a station in Central Australia

[opaque saddle]

Hopefully not Alice

[keen cypress]

Nah, further North East

Alice is too much

[solid stirrup]

Is the GTX 670 good enough to play modern games ?

[supple bane]

depends on the game

[quick locust]

My first was a packard bell but I forgot the specs of it

[opaque saddle]

Alice springs region

[keen cypress]

QLD

[supple bane]

my first very own pc was an i5 7400 and gtx 1060

[opaque saddle]

Well that isn’t central Australia

[keen cypress]

Depends on what you're basing it off

[solid stirrup]

Battlefield 2042
Battlefield 1
Battlefield 4
GTA 5
War Thunder
CSGO
Also, Premiere Pro(which is not a game)

[opaque saddle]

720p on modern titles shall be fine

[vernal meadow]

thanks man i might need u after a year for a job in Aus

[supple bane]

you will play all of them on 720p or lower

and you will not be editing video on it

[solid stirrup]

I was able to make a 12 minute video on a 560 Ti(tho rendering was done using the CPU)

[opaque saddle]

Depends. If he got an Intel cpu with iGPU inside, he can use intel quick sync

[keen cypress]

Mathematically not exact centre Aus but, environmentally identical.

[solid stirrup]

In Vegas Pro 15.

[supple bane]

heres me thinking central Australia was empty

[solid stirrup]

Australia is 90% desert

[opaque saddle]

Usually the IT or tech related positions are located in Melbourne and Sydney

I’m currently staying in cairns at the moment

[quick locust]

My friend edits videos on E8600 and G33 motherboard graphics

[solid stirrup]

How long are those videos and what kind of software does he use

[opaque saddle]

If you remember onboard GPU…

[vernal meadow]

Worked on C C# C++ CURRENTLY WORKING ON c++ OOP, after exams on 2 july ill be working on sql visual basic and database

[quick locust]

Not long and a not very legal premiere

[solid stirrup]

Well, I have illegal versions of Davinci Resolve and Vegas installed.

Free video editing software sucks

[keen cypress]

Righto there are plenty of jobs, but projects make the difference

[quick locust]

Kdenlive is decent

And is free

[solid stirrup]

Yeah, kdenlive is pretty good

[vernal meadow]

Yea looking for projects

[solid stirrup]

Should I even try to use Premiere CC 2017 on my current hardware

[keen cypress]

Doesn't have to be extravagant

[opaque saddle]

Some motherboards used to have a gpu chipset inside

[quick locust]

Yeah

G33 does

[keen cypress]

Just follow a structured development process and demonstrate your understanding of the language

[vernal meadow]

Hmmm any more tips

[keen cypress]

Go to meetups

If you've got soft skills, you'll find it very easy to find work

[vernal meadow]

I have data structures in sem 3 and 4th sem algorithms

[vernal meadow]

Nice

[keen cypress]

Righto good luck bro

[opaque saddle]

I gave up on computer science and did IS

[vernal meadow]

Thanks mate

[opaque saddle]

IS (information systems) is non coding related but more into business and business management

[vernal meadow]

Rn im not looking for jobs till 4th sem i should be able to create a soft on my own in a year than ill look for it

[solid stirrup]

My only source of income is video editing, and it's not great.
It's good enough. How hard is it to learn programming?

[opaque saddle]

I reckon you shall started developing your own demo before you applied for a job

Python is easy to learn

[quick locust]

I didn't have high enough grades for IT courses except one female only one

[opaque saddle]

Usually people starts from python, before moving on to other languages

[quick locust]

😔

[keen cypress]

Constantly apply what you learn in school

I'm self taught so that's literally how I learnt

[opaque saddle]

The problem is, I know the bare bone of it, I can’t code

[vernal meadow]

I learned c first thn c++ c#. Now c++ oop after it sql and visual basic

[opaque saddle]

It is like, I know where it went wrong, but I can’t fix it

[solid stirrup]

Anyways, can I buy a decent game for $10?

[quick locust]

I started with C since I had to use it for a project

[keen cypress]

Yeah that's usually where senior devs come in hahaha

[vernal meadow]

I got grip on it now

[opaque saddle]

Usually I will be the one thinking as a whole

And assign stuff to others

[quick locust]

Since in that course C and Fortran was used most

[opaque saddle]

Depends on how decent games you are talking about. And whether you or can run it

[keen cypress]

What's uo there in cairns bro?

[vernal meadow]

cout<<"CODING IS FUN";

[quick locust]

Cairns is too warm, been there :P

[keen cypress]

Pretty out there for a software job

[solid stirrup]

Is there something like Escape from Tarkov for $10?

[vernal meadow]

Console.writeline("Coding is fun");

[solid stirrup]

Print- Coding is hard

Idk.

[vernal meadow]

printf("Coding is fun");

[solid stirrup]

Why doesn't DICE release remastered versions of their older games?

[opaque saddle]

Visiting my mum and dad

[vernal meadow]

It'll be a junk just like nfs prostreet

[keen cypress]

Console.log( "are we coding now" ? "Proceed" : "stfu")

[vernal meadow]

[vernal meadow]

Is that java

[solid stirrup]

Because of EA, they ruin everything

[opaque saddle]

I don’t know how much games costs these days

[keen cypress]

Just js mate haha

[vernal meadow]

[solid stirrup]

[keen cypress]

My boss used to get off on ternary statements hahaha

[quick locust]

2042 already down to 52

[vernal meadow]

For each sucks

[solid stirrup]

52?

[keen cypress]

Yeah

[vernal meadow]

Condition?1:2 fuckkk

[keen cypress]

Just throw in a while(true) loop

[vernal meadow]

While do while are easy for loop is flexible

[quick locust]

Only 51 TB written but already used 18% of spare capacity

[solid stirrup]

51TB? Wow

[opaque saddle]

I remember I was doing IS tho. I have to do bug testing for CS Students (devs)

[quick locust]

My other drive has 600

[vernal meadow]

Haha

[vernal meadow]

Test case

[opaque saddle]

I crashed their software so many times and they are so happy with that

[vernal meadow]

Lol

[keen cypress]

My mate works for a sec company right.
They hack stuff for fun and they brought in an atm and they literally spam it with a while(true) loop until it crashed and revealed a vulnerability

[opaque saddle]

If it didn’t happen tho, it will either be a really good software or I’m not doing my job properly

[keen cypress]

Idk how that worked but that's sec stuff

[vernal meadow]

Well i have to create Pharmacy management system in OOP using C++ for my finals on 24 june

[keen cypress]

What an inventory system?

Or does it have to calculate doses and stuff

[solid stirrup]

Will you get paid or is it just a test?

[keen cypress]

Lol Uni doesn't pay you to do an assignment

[vernal meadow]

Semester final project for grades

[vernal meadow]

No

[opaque saddle]

If it is IT related, that’s good enough

But we don’t get paid for that

[vernal meadow]

Calculate and dies stuff

Does*

[keen cypress]

Yea...fun

Why not throw in some chemistry

[solid stirrup]

Do games run better or worse on Linux?

[opaque saddle]

Can’t really tell

I remember steam machine existed

It was based on Linux

[quick locust]

usually close to it, sometimes a bit slower

rarely faster unless its native

[vernal meadow]

Im planning too install ubuntu but i hvnt used it before most of my seniors in uni uses linux

[opaque saddle]

But which Linux version is it

[solid stirrup]

I've never used Linux, I might download a VM and use it there.

[keen cypress]

Yea linux is the standard for software dev

[quick locust]

BFV and BF1 run quite well in linux

[keen cypress]

WSL worked fine for my uses

[solid stirrup]

Does anyone here play Hell Let Loose?

[opaque saddle]

People usually install Linux on thinkpads

Not always happening

[quick locust]

I dual boot on desktop and laptop

[vernal meadow]

Im planning to do it

[keen cypress]

Nah mate

Anyone here into Vim?

[opaque saddle]

But I reckon if you also do business, using macOS and VM Linux on it. It shall be better

[quick locust]

fedora on my laptop, artix and opensuse on my desktop

[solid stirrup]

Ok

[keen cypress]

Tbh I've never heard of anyone vming linux on a Mac

The base operating system is perfectly acceptable in my experience

[quick locust]

I have heard of them but mac is fine for devs too

[opaque saddle]

Windows is really bad for devs

[keen cypress]

Aye

[quick locust]

yeah unless you're a .net dev or something like that

[keen cypress]

God windows is a dumpster fire

[opaque saddle]

Coz what I heard is, macOS is based on Unix

[quick locust]

or your company use archaic software that requires IE in compatibility mode

[keen cypress]

Microsoft as a company is baffling to me

[opaque saddle]

And the stuff they do on Linux is pretty similar to the one on macOS

[vernal meadow]

Hey jack

[keen cypress]

I guess that's me

[vernal meadow]

why cant i paste ss here

xD

[opaque saddle]

Coz macOS is pretty good for everything in the category. If I were on of the devs and wanna enjoy the Linux environment, I will install Linux on VM

[jovial crater]

Bruh, I wonder what their game plan is when IE is no longer supported next year

Using IE is such a security vulnerability

[quick locust]

most of it is offline anyway

or closed network

[opaque saddle]

You know governments wants The IE compatibility

[jovial crater]

Still

[quick locust]

but so much stuff still run on late 90s/early 2000s software

[jovial crater]

Governments are so fucked with IE deprecation next year

[quick locust]

a lot of industrial and medical too

[keen cypress]

Yikes

[jovial crater]

Yeah it's ridiculous

[quick locust]

but those are usually not connected to internet anyway

[vernal meadow]

how can i paste ss here

XD

[jovial crater]

Understandable to a certain extent but still ridiculous

[opaque saddle]

Speaking of which… There are so many machines that runs windows XP on it

[jovial crater]

Only staff, regulars and server boosters have that permission

[quick locust]

our trains use XP in entertainment systems

[vernal meadow]

Ah

[keen cypress]

Your trains?

[quick locust]

I know cause they crash quite a bit

the entertainment system that is

[opaque saddle]

TransLink (our QLD train service) uses XP on their kiosks

[quick locust]

a lot of IDE errors

[jovial crater]

Netherlands upgraded their software in trains, I believe we're on windows 7

[opaque saddle]

ATM uses XP

The newer ATM shall be different

[jovial crater]

Outdated but at least Microsoft still offers support if you pay up

[quick locust]

worse is all the IoT devices that are always connected to internet but doesnt get updates from oem

since a lot of the industrial ones are at least never connected

[jovial crater]

Anybody here use a stream deck without streaming? I'm considering getting one for keybindings and script activation

Seems like a useful gadget

[opaque saddle]

IIRC most of the machines that uses XP have an Itanium processor

[quick locust]

windows why do you have to send 3 prompts in a row that my licence expires in a month

[opaque saddle]

Intel Itanium

[jovial crater]

Good old early 2000s hardware hahaha

[quick locust]

yeah but a lot of them arent connected anyway

[opaque saddle]

Actually they companies bought those machines coz of reliability

And it is secure

[jovial crater]

Intel was still releasing itanium models in 2017

Didn't know that https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/451/intel-itanium-processor.html

[quick locust]

you can still use itanium in linux too

[opaque saddle]

Itanium is so different compared to other processors

Companies bought Itanium machines coz they can’t be failed

IIRC the hardware and software are made differently than normal software you are using on windows

Coz it is a different architecture

The problem is tho, those softwares are really difficult to code as a dev

[quick locust]

theres many different architectures

Intel might buy SiFive that does RISC-V

look at FreeBSD's support lul

or gentoo

if you are a masochist

[modern gull]

To be honest i am not really into those space games, but they sure look pretty cool.

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sharp-unveils-8k-lcd-with-1000-nits-brightness

too close to the screen mister

[modern gull]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-eyes-steve-buscemi-big-eyes-gif-5312326

[quick locust]

now with 1000 nit of discord white mode

[modern gull]

[plucky token]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-light-mode-gif-19503048

[modern gull]

[plucky token]

[prime jasper]

[gloomy obsidian]

What monitor would be ideal to pair with a 3070? Mine is fucing ancient, in need of an upgrade. DM or @ would be appreciated ❤️

[supple bane]

1440p 144hz or 165hz

[keen cypress]

Nothing less surely

And at least 27inch but gotta go for a 30+ ultrawide

[opaque saddle]

34" ultrawide can fit a 27" 16:9 perfectly

if it shows 16:9 contents with the 34", it will be similar to a 27" 16:9 (on the 34" ultrawide)

[limber isle]

hello guys, which cpu do you recommend to buy for a new pc? i have an ancient i7 980x. do you stay on i7 or do you upgrade on i9?

for playing in 1080p at high settings

[wanton sky]

Just wait for the official specs before buying a new PC or replace some components

But I recommend AMD Ryzen 5 or 7 (3600 or higher), no Intel haha. + you need a new motherboard (same with Intel)

[supple bane]

ancient but still competent

its still a solid cpu for gaming

[opaque saddle]

i would go for 5600x for similar price

[solid stirrup]

Why does Battlefield 1 crash when I use Process Lasso?

[quick locust]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-to-officially-end-driver-support-for-kepler-gpus-and-windows-7-8-8-1-on-august-31

Old cards

9 years old

The 750 and 750 ti are not included in this since they are Maxwell

https://tenor.com/view/gtagif-gta-one-liners-you-did-good-back-there-kid-real-good-gif-17440903

[dapper ocean]

i have the Ryzen 5 3600, very good cpu

[quick locust]

Yeah, it is good

[quick locust]

6900xt in a mac

Lul

[wanton sky]

@leaden sierra I can DM you with information how to get a RX 6000 series video card for MSRP, if you live in Europe

[leaden sierra]

@prime jasper € 2.099,00 lmao

[leaden sierra]

sadly no

[prime jasper]

eu>us

[livid bolt]

what case is that?

[wooden dome]

corsair 680x

[solid stirrup]

Water cooling, nice

[wooden dome]

yeah its got a i9 9900k, 2080ti and 32gb ram

[livid bolt]

nice

I need to get more ram but sadly it looks like their prices went up

[wooden dome]

im sad as i bought the 2080ti a week before the 3000 series was introduced

yeah ram is expensive

[livid bolt]

yeah I waited too before I sold anything but now people don't regret since stock issues

unless your area has decent stock

[wooden dome]

yeah

[livid bolt]

I was lucky to be able to snag a rx6800

[wooden dome]

nice

[solid stirrup]

Is the GTX 600 series cards still worth buying?

[opaque saddle]

no

[digital hill]

I mean great for windows xp gaming machines if you want one for that reason.

[opaque saddle]

6000 series amd cards is really bad in gaming

with massive stuttering

[digital hill]

your saying the new rx 6800 is bad?

[leaden sierra]

you can play bf1 with them but no

[digital hill]

also you kinda forgot amd is not very good at drivers

[opaque saddle]

my friend got one tho. it was really bad tbh

[digital hill]

Ah

[opaque saddle]

coz amd didn't actually optimised their drivers

[digital hill]

I think that's very true

[opaque saddle]

it didn't go beyond 60% gpu usage

[digital hill]

That's not good.

[opaque saddle]

i realised the drivers are the main issues

[wanton sky]

Ehh? I don't see any stutters with my 6900 XT

[latent light]

@digital hill @opaque saddle I rarely see problems with any RX 6000 series cards. AMD drivers are in their prime thanks to help from Microsoft, Sony and Valve.

[digital hill]

True but at the same time mostly linux.

[latent light]

Last gen RX 5000 had many problems that were thought of being driver related but it's really a problem at silicon level for that series

RX 6000 on the other hand improved so many things

[opaque saddle]

my friend got one and showed me the issue

it was painful to see it drops fps every 10-15s

[latent light]

Could be a bad egg

[opaque saddle]

brand new 6900xt...

[latent light]

You do know there is about a 7% chance of a new graphics card being defective

It's not impossible to blow a lot of money on a piece of hardware only for it to not work

Unreal Engine 5 demo favors AMD and Intel GPUs over Nvidia

RX 6800XT up to 15% faster than RTX 3080 in UE5

Something I thought I'd never see

But consoles have influence on that I believe

[quick locust]

Facebook also helped AMD drivers quite a bit

And Google

They are worse in DL and RT though

But that's not really only driver related

[wanton sky]

Some cards can have some problems. Maybe he had a bad egg. But overall the RX 6000 series don't have that problem

[opaque saddle]

Idk

[latent light]

Yeah most likely defective unit

[quick locust]

I very rarely have driver issue with any of the 3

[wanton sky]

I'm playing with my 6900 XT for 2 months, without problems

[opaque saddle]

It was quite disappointing to see how it went tho

He bought the 3080ti initially

[quick locust]

Last one was last year where Nvidia driver had a bug in doom eternal where it would use system ram instead of vram

[opaque saddle]

He saw 6900xt is cheaper and faster

[quick locust]

Lol

[wanton sky]

That price difference 😅

[quick locust]

But mostly stable

[opaque saddle]

So he sold his brand new unopened 3080ti and bought 6900xt

Turns out it doesn’t work as intended

[wanton sky]

If he mailed AMD / Digital River (if it was a reference model) he will receive a new card within few weeks

[opaque saddle]

Idk but he bought it from the store in the same day

[latent light]

@opaque saddle you said his problem was stuttering, usually stuttering is caused by combination of CPU or RAM not being able to feed the GPU the data what it needs on time

[opaque saddle]

Should be able to replace it through the store

He uses 3700x with 32GB (2x16) of ram

[latent light]

Resolution?

[opaque saddle]

1440p

165hz

[latent light]

CPU is a bottleneck at that res

[wanton sky]

RAM speed? Idk if it can be something

[opaque saddle]

He bought 4400mhz ram but it didn’t work with his mobo

And replaced with 3600

MHz

[wanton sky]

3600 is good

[latent light]

Can't guarantee 3600 on a Zen2 CPU

I've seen a 3950X fail to run 3200 before

[wanton sky]

It should work

Maybe no support for the RAM?

[opaque saddle]

I asked him to check the list

[latent light]

There's so many possibilities to what can cause stutter especially running high speed RAM

[opaque saddle]

And the motherboard manufacturers put a check on it

[wanton sky]

My RAM wasn't on the support list of my motherboard. But my motherboard was on the support list of my RAM

But it worked

[latent light]

Ram speed isn't determined by motherboard

It's determined by the IMC of your CPU

Silicon lottery

[opaque saddle]

It works and it will work if it works

[wanton sky]

I don't mean the speed, just the RAM. Like: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-PRO-rev-11-12/support#support-doc

[quick locust]

It's influenced by both

My board will not run 3733 or higher regardless of the cpu or imc

[opaque saddle]

My rule of thumb is: if it has stated on the list, it should be 95-99% works

[quick locust]

Same limits with other mobos, varying

Ask Buildzoid

[latent light]

My B350 board can run 3733 MHz as well

[quick locust]

My z390 can not regardless of cpu

It's both dependent on board traces, layering and CPU's imc

[latent light]

My first Ryzen 5 1600 wouldn't boot with RAM speed above 2666 MHz so I sold it for $70 and bought a new 1600AF for $85 and now run 3200 MHz daily

[quick locust]

I run 3600 cl 14 14 14 28 daily

With four sticks

[latent light]

What kit

[quick locust]

Trident Z red/silver

3600 cl 15 kit

[latent light]

Damn did you pay DDR5 prices for that

[quick locust]

My previous was 2666 cl 21 lol

[latent light]

[quick locust]

Nah

[latent light]

1T command rate?

[quick locust]

But they recently put electronic tax

Luckily I bought right before

In 2019

[latent light]

Just one DIMM of 16GB DDR5-4800 CL42 will cost around $300 btw

[quick locust]

Anything that can carry or store data can be used for copyright infringement so they are taxed to pay distribution companies

Yeah DDR5 expensive

But that'll go down once more use it

[latent light]

Intel 12th gen is likely DOA just because DDR5 prices

[quick locust]

Maybe

They have much bigger part than amd

Might not be cheaper until 13th I guess

[latent light]

12th gen launches in October

[quick locust]

I know

[latent light]

13th gen will face Zen 4 at the end of 2022

[quick locust]

Saphhire rapid soon too

Which can use both hbm3 and ddr5

Not consumer though

[latent light]

Intel GPUs will have good performance but I hear drivers are bad

[quick locust]

Yeah for now

Lisa Pearce sometimes answers on twitter etc

[latent light]

Sapphire Rapids should be good but neither AMD nor Intel will be able to compete with Nvidia Grace

ARM gonna take over x86 in server and data center

[quick locust]

Maybe

Currently their power consumption is not really much lower when scaled up

Arm loses most of its advantages for huge cpus

But Ampere is designing some great ones

Nvidia too soon

[latent light]

Zen4 Epyc Genoa is a beast

96 cores and over 1GB L3

In theory, with 3D stacked V-cache, you can put up to 4.3GB of L3 on Zen3 Epyc Milan

[quick locust]

Yeah

Wonder how they compete with Mystique

128 cores

[latent light]

With cache

Inb4 Zen4 CPUs have so much cache that you can use it as system memory

[quick locust]

Crysis in cache when

We already had it in vram

[latent light]

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/12/22530738/nvidia-windows-7-windows-8-driver-support-end-october-2021

[quick locust]

I already posted

They drop Kepler top

Too*

[latent light]

Dropping 7/8 support because 11 is about to launch

[quick locust]

Their reasoning was that they were EOL

And that 8.1 is soon EOL

They have a faq

Last driver for Kepler too

But that is 9 years old by now

600 and 700 series (except 750 and 750 ti which are Maxwell and thus still have support)

[wispy shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/170631712676642816/853296916921188362/unknown.png

anyo

anyone know why my CPU temp is so fucking high when playing bf4

I only have it on medium settings and yet its nearly 85c..

[quick locust]

Which cooler

And cpu

[wispy shore]

Ryzen 5 3600 and stock cooler

[quick locust]

The wraith stealth sucks

But should still run ok just warm

[wispy shore]

I mean yeah

other games I play which are newer run cooler

but when I play BF4 it just

goes up to near 85 wouldnt be suprised if it lurks to 90

and its not even like im playing the game on ultra

[quick locust]

It depends how much they load the cpu

But yeah wraith stealth sucks

But should still not be an issue, 85C is normal for that cooler under load

[wispy shore]

is there a way to like

cap fps

might help if I capped it to like 60

[quick locust]

Yes, use vsync and put monitor to 60 Hz

Sometimes games have a cap setting built in too

Not sure if BF4 does, I don't remember

[latent light]

My 1600AF overclocked to 4 GHz still under 90C on prime95 with Wraith Stealth lmao

[quick locust]

Yeah

[latent light]

12nm vs 7nm heat density

[quick locust]

But it's still a crap cooler for 3600

And 3500

They should have used something slightly better

[latent light]

Spire with copper core

[quick locust]

Not sure what 5600X has

[latent light]

Stealth lmao

5600X stays cooler than 3600X just because Zen 3 cores are much larger and there isn't so much heat trapped in a tiny core

[wispy shore]

origin itself is

using 20% of my cpu for some reason

tf..

[quick locust]

Could be updating something

[wispy shore]

yeah it was

downloading legacy operations but I stopped it and all other updates

hm

not suprised though

its EA afterall

[quick locust]

No, using CPU quite a bit during uncompressing and updating is normal

Steam just does it at weird times

[wispy shore]

yeah

I just

restarted and cancelled shit

it went down to 1% now

prob not even gonna get bf2042 until I can get a new cooler

cant imagine the temps if I tried that

[quick locust]

Lul

Yeah wraith stealth suck

[wispy shore]

yep

good cpu but ofc they gotta bundle it with a dogshit cpu in order to save money

[quick locust]

Worst ryzen stock cooler

[wispy shore]

XDDDDDDDD

[quick locust]

Well

3600X get better

[wispy shore]

well yeah they probably knew they couldnt keep reusing the wraith cooler so they just put in a slightly better one

[quick locust]

Well they did reuse it for 5600X :P

Apparently

But yeah it doesn't damage it or anything

It just sucks for cooling it

[latent light]

I prefer to set a manual clock speed and voltage than have stock Ryzen boost with stock cooler

My 1600AF at 4 GHz runs about as cool as it did when it was stock but I'm also feeding it less voltage than stock

[quick locust]

Only Ryzen CPU that I own is not unlocked anyway

So I've not messed with OCing ryzen

[supple bane]

i can get my 2600 to 4.1 at 1.4v

but thats the brink of stability

stays around 60c on my aio

[quick locust]

I run 5.0 at 1.30

But on intel

😎

I might upgrade eventually

[supple bane]

yeah yeah. my cpu is 1/3 the price of yours

[quick locust]

But my CPU has done great for 4 years

Well

My CPU was cheaper than 1700X

I might change eventually

I don't want AM4 right now though since it's at its end

Same with lga1200

"If you think about RTX laptops as a game console, it’s the largest game console in the world. There are more RTX laptops shipped each year than game consoles. If you were to compare the performance of a game console to an RTX, even an RTX 3060 would be 30-50 percent faster than a PlayStation 5. We have a game console, literally, in this little thin notebook, which is one of the reasons it’s selling so well. The same laptop also brings with it all of the software stacks and rendering stacks necessary for design applications, like Adobe and AutoDesk and all of these wonderful design and creative tools. The RTX laptop, RTX 3080Ti, RTX 3070Ti, and a whole bunch of new games, that was one major announcement."