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opaque saddle
weak girder
increasing your resolution helps if your gpu can handle it
with the resolution scale
opaque saddle
Nah it is bottlenecking
weak girder
Nah it is bottlenecking
increasing the res scale can make the gpu work a little harder
opaque saddle
It is bottlenecked
weak girder
sure its not gonna fix his problem but it may help, I dont get you
opaque saddle
Nah he wants to get a better fps count
weak girder
oh
woven basin
Nah he wants to get a better fps count
That's right
opaque saddle
So he has to lower the resolution
woven basin
It's been odd, turn everything to lowest actually cut my fps
woven basin
1650
opaque saddle
I see
woven basin
I7-4770
weak girder
Coz it is bottlenecking
hes not gonna see much of an improvement by reducing the res scald
opaque saddle
Hmm the problem is tho. 4770 is pretty old
I have a Xeon that is about 3% slower than 4770
woven basin
It's already been paid for, I'll cross that bridge when it comes to it
But just for now, I'd like to see if you know a site where I can see what GPU graphical options I can turn up to take the load of the CPU
opaque saddle
I guess the next challenge for you even you got an used CPU will be… trying to limit the CPU usage
I think your 1650 has reached the maximum potential for the 4770
Anyway I reckon you shall better look at gaming FPS videos on YouTube and I wouldn’t trust those “is it bottlenecking” website.
opaque saddle
hes not gonna see much of an improvement by reducing the res scald
Anyway the problem is tho, reduce cpu usage is what he can do. The problem now is, the cpu has reached 100% usage and the game will be dropping frames. Increase the resolution will only decrease the CPU performance. CPU and GPU are working together. Either one of them will have to wait for another to catch up. Increasing the resolution will only increase the workload for both hardware.
woven basin
Anyway I reckon you shall better look at gaming FPS videos on YouTube and I woul...
That's good advice, thanks
supple bane
you are downloading and rendering a 4k image that is being downsampled to 1080p
and it will look slightly better than 1080p because it has a higher bitrate,
supple bane
if you have the internet and gpu horse power for 4k, and you dont have a data cap, you should use it
storm osprey
solar kestrel
hell ya
fervent sleet
Ambient occlusion turned out to be the main cause of terrible frames in bf4 for the 1060 6gb vram, turned it off & 4xMSAA is flawless. I love potato PC.
That being that along with using
"sfc /scannow"
in windows powershell to repair windows also provided a boost in everything on the rig, just leaving this here for anyone who's experiencing problems
proud trellis
That being that along with using
"sfc /scannow"
in windows powershell to rep...
do you just do /sfc scannow in windows powershell ?
im trying to do it now to try and fix an issue i have but i just get a message saying/sfc scannow is not recognised
fervent sleet
The command won't work unless you've run the program as administrator
proud trellis
ohhh
fervent sleet
😀
proud trellis
nope not working still
fervent sleet
Hmm idk 😳 maybe someone here knows?
dry pike
can you post a screenshot?
proud trellis
ohhhh
weak girder
carbonic is everywhere
dry pike
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proud trellis
hopefully this will fix my issue
fervent sleet
https://youtu.be/7KOMhjgW6j0 this lad explains it
proud trellis
doubt it will but its worth the shot
fervent sleet
@dry pike 💖
dry pike
doubt it will but its worth the shot
If it finds errors then keep running it until it doesn't, make take a scan or two
dry pike
yes
The command just scans the system files. They can become corrupt if you bluescreen or close down the computer wrong.
proud trellis
i have bluescreened once before
dry pike
it only fixes your issues if the files that broke were actually causing the issue
proud trellis
my computer freezes randomly every now and then
some days it does it once of twice but other days its about 6 times it freezes
people think its a hardware issue but i have no clue on what it is
dry pike
Have you used the built in w10 disk error checking tool recently?
dry pike
Advanced solution 2 in https://www.carbonic.dk/punkbusterguide/#adva
proud trellis
will try this now 🙂 thanks
weak girder
Advanced solution 2 in https://www.carbonic.dk/punkbusterguide/#adva
you made this?
dry pike
ye. probably one of the reasons for my first DICE friends dogtag. Had thousands of users each week at one point.
proud trellis
hmm its said no errors were found on my windows drive
weak girder
ye. probably one of the reasons for my first DICE friends dogtag. Had thousands ...
it helped me a lot in the past
dry pike
it helped me a lot in the past
Glad to hear that 🙂
proud trellis
ye. probably one of the reasons for my first DICE friends dogtag. Had thousands ...
how long did it take to make ?
dry pike
A 1-2 days if I recall correctly, at first it was an experiment on if I could get 100% in Googles pagespeed tool. Server was a bit too slow for that so only made it to 99%, then I added the third party comments in the bottom and that kinda ruined it 🙂
dry pike
Any progress @proud trellis ?
weak girder
some days it does it once of twice but other days its about 6 times it freezes
your pc is just bonkers mate
marsh gull
some days it does it once of twice but other days its about 6 times it freezes
has there been one time where your computer hasn't blown up on you since you first got it?
odd goblet
When I was having memory errors and blue screens, it turned out that it was my power supply that got bricked
proud trellis
Any progress <@!779429414328074250> ?
I went offline after I done that Sfc/scannow as it was pretty late
proud trellis
your pc is just bonkers mate
it’s fine now apart from the freezing
proud trellis
When I was having memory errors and blue screens, it turned out that it was my p...
I have a spair powersupply I’m pretty sure, think it’s worth swapping it to see if it is my psu ?
molten bramble
nope not working still
You can open PS in Administrator and then run: .\/sfc /scannow
proud trellis
You can open PS in Administrator and then run: ```.\/sfc /scannow```
I managed to do it in the end 🙂 I was putting the command in wrong lol
molten bramble
Oohhh
proud trellis
I don’t know if it has fixed anything but I will find out today ig
quaint topaz
Anyway if that Android 12 update bricks something imma be pissed
prime jasper
anyone here with xb series s?
proud trellis
so i was going to try a new psu in my pc today to see if that is the issue to my pc freezing but i go to get the psu and turns out my mum got rid of it 
dont know how or why but she just gets rid of anything which has just pissed me off
weak girder
so i was going to try a new psu in my pc today to see if that is the issue to my...
but...
why?
manic spear
Guys, in msconfig, is it a good idea to change how many processors do I want to work at the same time?
I mean cores
Cuz I want to increase my performance
manic spear
Can someone help?
I restarted my laptop and now I have the weather forecast blocking my button for background apps and I can't shut it off or remove it
fallow garden
Guys, in msconfig, is it a good idea to change how many processors do I want to ...
Yes, set it to maximum number
dry pike
I restarted my laptop and now I have the weather forecast blocking my button for...
There's like a gazillion guides out there on how to remove it I would imagine. It never appeared for me though, but I also have my W10 locked down quite tight.
manic spear
I have it locked as well but I've fixed it
ancient cobalt
burnt rose
Anyone knows why my pc wont boot into Bios? I changed the hard drive of my pc cause of a blackscreen after a windows update
And when i press del key in order to go into Bios nothing happens
near rune
are you sure thats the right button
supple bane
Are you just pressing it once ?
quick locust
windows and hard drives do not affect bios
but you can restart to bios in windows settings
if you can't get the shortcut to work
and yeah spam it a bit before it inits OS
burnt rose
Its just that this new hardrive doesnt have windows in it
Okey ill try hitting the del key like a maniac and pray for the best
Thats why i want to go into bios
near rune
hdd as a boot drive?
burnt rose
I have the usb ready to install the windows 10
quick locust
on some boards you can also press F12 to enter boot menu
supple bane
Also f2 ?
quick locust
yeah it varies
burnt rose
Welp nothing happened with del
It says f12 for boot menu ill try with that
Didnt worked
Back to a blackscreen
supple bane
Its just that this new hardrive doesnt have windows in it
wait. if it doesnt have windows on it, then it will just be a black screen?
quick locust
then it will state no bootable device
but if he has the usb plugged in it should show
supple bane
if he has the usb in yeah
burnt rose
I have the usb on the pc
When i first power it the motherboard logo comes up and says, del to Bios f12 Boot menu, system info F9
supple bane
have you tried a different keyboard?
burnt rose
I have pressed all keys like a maniac and nothing happens, after a few secs go down its just black screen
I dont have another keyboard in my house :( but when i press ctlr del the pc restarts
So idk if the keyboard would make a differance
Or can it?
burnt rose
Its a G1 Sniper M3 its like 8 years old
supple bane
i assume you dont have another motherboard to try
burnt rose
Nope
supple bane
the only thing i could suggest is to update the bios. but im not sure if you can do that without getting into the bios heh
burnt rose
Maybe its just time to upgrade my pc after like 8 or 9 years
:/
yeah i cant go into Bios
burnt rose
well sound like bios is working
hmm then could it be the graphic card?
Maybe i just cant see the Bios?
burnt rose
Yep nothing happened
dry pike
Third party render of what might be one anyway
Testing out a tiny productivity keyboard (that can also be wireless) to compliment my gaming keyboard. So small ^^ But reduces errors when I type which is nice.
solid stirrup
Is there a way to change DirectX from 11 to 10 in Battlefield 4 to attempt and fix lagging and stuttering.
Heres my setup:
GTX 560 TI 1GB
16GB RAM
Xeon E3 1275 v2
Settings:medium
Resolution: 1280x1024
Ping me when answering because im not online at all times
dry pike
advanced graphics settings
prime jasper
Isn't bf4 only dx11 and mantle?
dry pike
I might be remembering it wrong
solid stirrup
Isn't bf4 only dx11 and mantle?
How can it run on an 8800GT then if its DX11 and Mantle only?
dry pike
Oh well, it doesn't really matter I guess, I don't see why DX10 would run better than DX11.
lofty light
That IHS looks like the 5th Gen Intel ones
fallow garden
is keyboard Tracer GAMEZONE Stinger 87 good? Looks sexy https://prnt.sc/13mkxou
plucky token
never heard of it
dry pike
Seems to be a pretty standard branded Chinese OEM keyboard with some sort of Cherry knockoff keys. I would not get it but it might be a perfectly fine budget keyboard.
Those kind of keyboards have come a long way since mechanical keyboards became popular.
fallow garden
@dry pike @plucky token maybe yall can recommend me some red switch, non full size keyboards under 70 eur/85usd?
and what keyboards you have
quick locust
silk quarry
dry pike
I use a Corsair K95 Platinum with MX Speed switches and have a tiny second keyboard now which is a CM SK-622 with MX Blue switches.
quick locust
I use a DasKeyboard model s with Mx blue
I would probably go with unicomp now though idk
obtuse kettle
Testing out a tiny productivity keyboard (that can also be wireless) to complime...
baby keyboard hanging out with daddy keyboard
dry pike
they do say 60% keyboards are getting quite popular
opaque saddle
I reckon 120hz display is kinda overrated. I have a XS and android mid range phone with 120hz display
lofty light
TKL keyboards are pretty great if you don't need the numpad
weak girder
I reckon 120hz display is kinda overrated. I have a XS and android mid range pho...
what?
120hz are loads better than a 60hz
lofty light
I reckon 120hz display is kinda overrated. I have a XS and android mid range pho...
Definitely not overrated imo, I've got an iPad pro and a 5th gen, the pro is SO much nicer to use with the 120 display
opaque saddle
it uses a lot of power for 120hz
opaque saddle
the animation is nice. as a 120hz display phone owner, i reckon there is no use for me to use 120hz
quick locust
they do say 60% keyboards are getting quite popular
Full size ftw
opaque saddle
i always use 60hz coz the apps runs lower than 120hz for most of the time
if it is a racing game tho, i will switch to 120hz but for other games, 60hz works as fine
sometimes the games even runs at 30hz
quick locust
My GPU fans are faster
nova ginkgo
hi so when i launch bf 5 the sound works fine, and then i get in game and i get no sound from my computer, help please!
deft crow
Does nvida reflex harm your pc?
quick locust
No
deft crow
Idk
latent light
sometimes i wish i waited for zen 2
Do you use this laptop for work or just for media
If youre just watching videos and shit even a 2c/4t Zen 1 CPU is enough
latent light
Laptops have changed drastically since Zen 2 came out tho
AMD took performance crown in mobile while using far less power draw
Tho despite lower power draw, some laptop manufacturers seem to gimp the cooling on AMD laptops
quick locust
This CPU is 10W when plugged in and 3W when on battery
So the cooling is easy
It doesn't get higher than 76C in full load plugged in
latent light
I remember when Zen laptops first came out and there were 35 watt CPU models with only 10-15 watt rated cooling
quick locust
Lol
The MSI made intel reference laptop for TGL-H sucked
This laptop is decent enough though
I upgraded ram but that's cause it came with 8GB and Vega 10 graphics reserves 2 GB for itself
And 6 GB is not much for system
latent light
I thought Vega iGPU reserves 256MB by default
quick locust
Vega 10 takes 2 GB and won't let other things use that
latent light
Damn
latent light
I can't wait for 10 GHz DDR5 memory with 256-bit bus width shit gonna be great for APUs
latent light
RDNA2 APUs will be faster than top-end Polaris RX 590
latent light
Vega 8 Ryzen 5000 ain't even 10% of the speed of an RX 590 lmao
quick locust
Radeon and ryzen doesn't work on same schedule or planning so it didn't become a thing
latent light
Ryzen 6000 iGPU should be well over 5x faster than Vega 8 on Ryzen 5000
latent light
Not even lmao
quick locust
They are
latent light
Vega 8 on Cezanne is like 20% faster than Vega 11
quick locust
Still slower than TGL
latent light
UHD 750 is ultra slow
quick locust
Not TGL-H though
Those were cut down because they were assumed to be always be used in a gaming laptop where you have dedicated anyway
quick locust
So TGL-H has 32 EU while low power TGL has 96
Because you don't need integrated much in gaming laptops
latent light
Every APU suffers from slow memory bandwidth, even putting Vega 3 on DDR5 would benefit
quick locust
And yeah their drivers are meh atm
But they beat Vega apus
Which doesn't take much, they are both integrated and slow
Apple beats both but still slow compared to dedicated
It's pretty funny to see apple doing gaming benchmarks
fallen harbor
tender horizon
modern gull
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813982446869151744/849042494738137128/vid...
tf Twee 
tender horizon
goopys pc after trying to run bfv
modern gull
tender horizon
modern gull
strong breach
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813982446869151744/849042494738137128/vid...
hehe
Meatsink
solar kestrel
latent light
Prototype Ryzen 9 5900X with additional 3D stacked 64MB of SRAM, for a total of 192MB L3 cache, lead to gaming performance gains of up to 15%. Percentage gains like this are usually expected on a new architecture, but this is just a cache change to Zen 3, very impressive.
latent light
AMD Fidelity Super Resolution set for June 22 launch
You can vote for what games you want to see supporting it
Over 100 different AMD GPUs will support FSR, all the way back to RX 400/500 and Vega 56/64
Nvidia supports it too all the way back to GTX 1000 series
One massive thing: FSR is in early test phase and yet game developers are claiming it's easier to implement in its current state than Nvidia DLSS
Oh another thing
It doesn't just work on GPUs, it's supported on CPUs too somehow lol
For unknown reasons as of now
quick locust
if its entirely in software
latent light
It is 100% software afaik
quick locust
yeah hence why it works on everything
solar kestrel
Ngl i dont even read half the shit you guys say in this channel simply because its like learning a new language lol
quick locust
while dlss requires hardware cores
solar kestrel
and in this language i only know the bare minimum
latent light
My insider buddy told me expect more than double framerates in some games with FSR
quick locust
yes
would be cool to try
wonder if consoles will start using it too
since they already have to run some games at lower res
cough series S
would also help in RT where rdna2 doesnt do that well
latent light
Nvidia DLSS requires a fairly recent version of Windows 10 while FSR will be supported back to Windows 7 and Linux
latent light
AMD is just blowing the competition out of the water at this point
quick locust
nvidia could do dlss in linux rather easily though
latent light
Fucken 3D stacked Ryzen 5000 refresh and fucking FSR in the same announcement
quick locust
dont think they will in win 7 though
well technically
linux does have dlss
since last june
but ive not had it work yet in games that has it
mild siren
Ngl i dont even read half the shit you guys say in this channel simply because i...
I constantly come back to this channel to view all the news they post haha
Don’t have time to chat though
😔
dry pike
The new Nvidia cards are giant cash grabs. Sigh.
toxic wigeon
So what's the difference between AMD's Graphic cards and the Gtx's(?)
marsh gull
So what's the difference between AMD's Graphic cards and the Gtx's(?)
the main diffence is in features (nvidia has more) and price. But radeon makes more budget-friendly cards than nvidia
both companies mostly make good graphic cards but nvidia rn is still a better choice for their features (rtx (if you want it), dlss, better drivers, more support and optimisation in some games, shadowplay...etc)
marsh gull
The new Nvidia cards are giant cash grabs. Sigh.
there are some pretty good choices like the 3060 and the 3060 ti
but to be fair it's true that the 3070, 3080 and 3090 are pricey
dry pike
the 3080ti is like a 70% increase in MSRP for like 15% increase in power - greedy is what that is
marsh gull
the 3080ti is like a 70% increase in MSRP for like 15% increase in power - greed...
yes
like the 3070 is like 10% more power than the 3060 ti but 100usd more
bruh
supple bane
So what's the difference between AMD's Graphic cards and the Gtx's(?)
they are both graphics cards, and both companies offer v fast parts. its just nvidia in general has better mod cons to play with
marsh gull
they are both graphics cards, and both companies offer v fast parts. its just nv...
yeah
supple bane
it could be argued that if you are just a competitive gamer who doesnt care about ray tracing, dlss non of this jazz, you just want the highest frames possible with basic rasterization. amd cards are better
marsh gull
it could be argued that if you are just a competitive gamer who doesnt care abou...
yeah tru, but shadowplay is very nice to have in games that support it
supple bane
however for most people who would like all the features, its a hard sell for amd
marsh gull
exactly, and nvidia is more widely/well known than radeon
supple bane
i guess a good way of thinking about it is a top fuel dragster vs a Lamborghini, sure the dragster is faster in a straight line, but try do something its not capable of then youve made the wrong choice
marsh gull
i guess a good way of thinking about it is a top fuel dragster vs a Lamborghini,...
if you see it that way
supple bane
the lambo will have leather seats (shadow play) and air conditioning (dlss), and would be faster around a track (ray tracing) but isnt as fast in a straight line (basic rendering)
you get my drift
marsh gull
like both companies are a good choice, but for poeple introducing themselves to pc gaming or just content creators/casual players, nvidia is a better choice just fot the features that are soo sweet to have
marsh gull
you get my drift
yeah
marsh gull
like both companies are a good choice, but for poeple introducing themselves to ...
like there are so many moments on bf5 that im glad to have recorded because nvidia shadowplay was activated
it's just nice to have
mild siren
Nice helpful features
dry pike
the lambo will have leather seats (shadow play) and air conditioning (dlss), and...
AMD has ReLive instead of shadowplay, they just announced FSR instead of DLSS and they do ray tracing too.
marsh gull
AMD has ReLive instead of shadowplay, they just announced FSR instead of DLSS an...
yeah, they're catching up
supple bane
AMD has ReLive instead of shadowplay, they just announced FSR instead of DLSS an...
they do these things yes. but simply they arent as good as the nvidia counterparts. although they will get better
marsh gull
they do these things yes. but simply they arent as good as the nvidia counterpar...
yeah, they are progressively getting better, catching up with nvidia but for now nvidia still has the high ground
dry pike
Oh sure, how good they are is up for debate. I just didn't think you portrayed the situation fairly by making it seem like only Nvidia has the features.
marsh gull
Oh sure, how good they are is up for debate. I just didn't think you portrayed t...
I mean it's a big part of their advantages, but in fairness, not all of them
dry pike
FSR seem really cool though, and it being open source means it will work on Geforce too https://www.anandtech.com/show/16723/amd-formally-unveils-fidelityfx-super-resolution-open-source-game-upscaling
marsh gull
FSR seem really cool though, and it being open source means it will work on Gefo...
never said that amd was bad, but now they are getting better
marsh gull
FSR seem really cool though, and it being open source means it will work on Gefo...
but that's cool anyways
dry pike
oh yeah, the above reply was meant for @supple bane - didn't notice you sneaking your way in there 🙂
marsh gull
oh lol sry
weak girder
So what's the difference between AMD's Graphic cards and the Gtx's(?)
AMD has some pretty affordable cards which are pretty capable, but to me the main difference is that nvidia has better rtx cards and owns the high end market
dry pike
In any case, I do hate all the Nvidia proprietary tech. It would be much better for the gamers if there were open standards.
weak girder
also nvidia has more stable drivers
modern gull
AMD has some pretty affordable cards which are pretty capable, but to me the mai...
Raytracing is over rated thinking of rtx cards 
modern gull
Its not really ideal for devs to focus on using it as not everyone has a DXR capable card. It has pretty poor performance to quality ratio in many cases
modern gull
There are many rendering features which is pretty comparable to raytracing at much less performance cost
marsh gull
Its not really ideal for devs to focus on using it as not everyone has a DXR cap...
yeah most poeple have gtx cards and can't afford a still sort-of experimental rtx card/option
modern gull
Mhm
Only thing that is good with raytracing is the reflections other than that its a complete waste imo
marsh gull
yeah most poeple have gtx cards and can't afford a still sort-of experimental rt...
for example the first top 8 cards installed in systems on the steam gardware survey are gtx cards
modern gull
Unreal engine 5 now has their own thing which is pretty close to raytracing reflections and it works completely fine in dx11 even.
marsh gull
Only thing that is good with raytracing is the reflections other than that its a...
it doubles-down your fps
litterally
if you dont have dlss activated
which of course only comes with rtx cards
modern gull
Ya dlss is nice to compensate for the fps loss tho
modern gull
which of course only comes with rtx cards
Sadly but it will be more avalible to people in the future i suppose
marsh gull
Ya dlss is nice to compensate for the fps loss tho
i think they designed it that way so that poeple dont complain too much about the preformance loss of the rtx-on setting
marsh gull
Sadly but it will be more avalible to people in the future i suppose
naa, this is just another way for nvidia to make poeple buy more rtx cards
marsh gull
naa, this is just another way for nvidia to make poeple buy more rtx cards
because if you put all of the best and newest features on rtx cards, poeple with gtx cards are gonna want to upgrade
modern gull
Mhm
marsh gull
DLSS use tensor cores, hence requiring 20 series or newer
oh nvm
marsh gull
because if you put all of the best and newest features on rtx cards, poeple with...
still valid for other features I guess
modern gull
because if you put all of the best and newest features on rtx cards, poeple with...
In a few years, more will have cards that support dlss
Well that is if they still in stock
quick locust
And Nvidia cards could also support fsr theoretically
marsh gull
In a few years, more will have cards that support dlss
yeah, because gtx cards will slowly become obsolete over time
marsh gull
yeah, because gtx cards will slowly become obsolete over time
(like very other pc part in existence)
dry pike
all cards become obsolete over time :p
modern gull
marsh gull
all cards become obsolete over time :p
yeah
dry pike
FSR looks promising though, hope DLSS dies or become an open standard as well
quick locust
DLSS use tensor cores so even if open, it'd still require the hardware
marsh gull
FSR looks promising though, hope DLSS dies or become an open standard as well
yeah, i dont mind having dlss on my gtx card
quick locust
Even if it was open, AMD would not have it (nor gtx except a few)
marsh gull
DLSS use tensor cores so even if open, it'd still require the hardware
fsr then
quick locust
FSR already is
Would be cool for series S as well
Since it already suffers in some games
:P
marsh gull
FSR already is
can you put it on gtx cards?
dry pike
DLSS use tensor cores so even if open, it'd still require the hardware
No reason the tensor cores can't do FSR
quick locust
Yes iirc
quick locust
No reason the tensor cores can't do FSR
I meant in regards to the comment about DLSS should be open
opaque saddle
The good things AMD provides for OEM is, they are cheap and powerful
quick locust
FSR on intel would be interesting too
opaque saddle
if XBOX or PS uses Nvidia and Intel then i guess they have to sell it for >1000
quick locust
Original Xbox did
opaque saddle
IIRC it was a pentium 3
quick locust
Also no since they sell them at a loss
Since they get 30% from software sales
Unless you're Nintendo, switch isn't sold at loss
So many computers still running XP :P
Wonder the percentage
dry pike
FSR on intel would be interesting too
It's open source, it can be used on the consoles, Linux, Intel cards etc.
Smoother looking raytracing for all and only 1 implementation to optimize for 🙂
quick locust
Indeed
Linux has DLSS as well, but yeah only on rtx cards
And only 2.0
But 1.0 suck anyway
FSR could be great
For integrated graphics too
Which has had nothing so far, yet needs the most help
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** Hi, can you help me choose between these 2 boxes? **
https://www.pccomponentes.com/lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-rgb-cristal-templado-usb-30-blanca
https://www.pccomponentes.com/corsair-4000d-airflow-cristal-templado-usb-31-blanca
molten coral
Personally I would get the corsair 4000d
dry pike
same
calm spoke
Personally I would get the corsair 4000d
I am a very indecisive person and I do not know which one to buy, I like them 2, I want to put this heatsink
https://www.amazon.es/Be-Quiet-BK022-Refrigerador-líquido/dp/B07BY6F8D9/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_es_ES=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=BLWRK4NX6EW2&dchild=1&keywords=be+quiet+dark+rock+pro+4&qid=1622549585&sprefix=be+quiet%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-1
but the heatsink above is good right? I saw that it is compatible with the 4000d and fits
I need to buy the 2 things as soon as possible, it is for my 3700x that the stock heatsink gets very hot and makes noise
quick locust
yes it's decent
calm spoke
I need to buy the 2 things as soon as possible, it is for my 3700x that the stock heatsink gets very hot and makes noise
quick locust
cools a 3700x easily
molten coral
but the heatsink above is good right? I saw that it is compatible with the 4000d...
Yes it's a good cooler
Pretty sure it's on par with many AIO coolers.
calm spoke
I suppose that a 5800x / i9 or something similar would also hold in the future, right?
quick locust
yes
calm spoke
great then it's a good combination the corsair 4000d with that cooler, I'm going to buy it now 😋
I have a gigabyte aorus x570 elite on the motherboard, I hope it fits well with the ram
the corsair 4000d is better black or white with that cooler ?? what do you think?
quick locust
the only exception will be full AVX load which you won't do 99% of the time
well looks decent with both, but is your preference
calm spoke
"the only exception will be full AVX load which you won't do 99% of the time"
forgive me but I don't understand what you mean
quick locust
i just meant it'll work fine for you
as for colour that's your preference, imo it works with both
calm spoke
and what color would you choose? also for future changes 🙏🏼
I'm very indecisive haha sorry
calm spoke
oh okay
quick locust
but both look decent imo
calm spoke
ok great, is that I currently have an nzxt s340 and it is a very hot closed box, I need a change 😅
calm spoke
but my box is very hot
the corsair 4000d has very good airflow and cooler as well as bigger
quick locust
yeah
many newer cases have decent airflow with mesh now
except those that put glass everywhere on front
modern gull
Imagine buying a new case with glass panel, and you accidentally drop it 
calm spoke
but ... do you think the corsair 4000d or the lian li mesh ii performance is a better option ??? being sincere
chrome skiff
quick locust
@modern gull some cases have stupid glass panel that are held on by knobs that makes the panel easy to drop when taking it off
and some do not survive mr mailman 😛
modern gull
Sad, i make sure i buy plastic ones even tough i doubt i'd drop it. I mean i do have my clumsy moments
modern gull
and some do not survive mr mailman 😛
Mhm ya
quick locust
@calm spoke just get 4000d in the colour you want
then a dark rock pro 4 or similiar
a 3700x is not hard to cool
chrome skiff
Had a kid just turn 14 and wanted a gaming pc for highschool, he settled on a thermaltake v71 i believe and he was super careful with it bringing the box over to my house and when he pulled the case out the thumb screws were in a bag and not installed holding the panels. He pulled on the front and back of the case and as soon as it was mostly out of the box 2 pnaels podded off and shattered when they fell.
All they had to do was pre install the thumb screws but i guess it woulda raised the price of the case too much lol
chrome skiff
Now the view doesnt have thumb screws its magnet and a swind door on hinges. Much better design imo
swing*
quick locust
I like doors
Convenient and less likely to drop it like that 😛
my current case just has steel panels held on by screws though so that won't move at all
chrome skiff
I run the fractal design series for most of my gaming rigs , the woman has a lian li lan cool 2. I like the visual and the case looks good but its clunky to work in imo, Then any water cooling pcs i do on a big peg board and wall mount em.
chrome skiff
Yeah i have a 2x2 hole recessed into the wall for cable management and once its on the wall all the wires are behind it and only come out at the devices It was my fastest pc so i made it up real nice
quick locust
Next time I upgrade things in some years I want a GPU with aio though
Tired of noisy gpus
chrome skiff
Put on an aio? The kraken g12 is a wonderful upgrade and can really get performance up and sounds down
quick locust
My current Gainward is less noisy than my reference Vega 64 I used before but still
Yeah I considered it
Also the alphacool ones
Which are more board specific
chrome skiff
I have one on my 2080ti i just have a the evga clc 360 on it and it never breeches 43c and its like top 5% on 3dmark
quick locust
Nice
Mine hits 80C and 109C hotspot
Even though its triple fan
Seems to still clock well but it's noisy
Considered the alphacool cooler for it for quite a while
chrome skiff
Yeah i mainly did it for the noise my pc is whisper silent and still not lacking in cooling
quick locust
It's by far the noisiest part of my pc since the CPU cooler is a D15
chrome skiff
I personally never used an alpha cool one so i dont have an opinion but the kraken ive used on 5 gpus and every single one was a huge upgrade
my 1080ti flashed with 330watt bios doesnt go over 38c. Like its not even running
quick locust
I should have put one on my reference Vega 64 that thing was an ear destroyer
:P
I sold that one though
320 USD in 2019
Now it'd cost more but oh well
modern gull
You guys know any cases that has side fans? Like on the window
chrome skiff
I always buy a triple fan gpu but recently past the 1080ti just doesnt seem like its enough without getting too loud. 2080ti was too loud 3080 was too loud 6900xt was too loud. I wouldnt sweat it you still got money back and it didnt die or anything so thats a plus
modern gull
My old one did but i dont seem to find any tbh. I would have kept my old case if it wasn't so inconvenient every time i am changing a component.
quick locust
I could put something on mine @chrome skiff
Considered for long time just never did
chrome skiff
I have a super old cm 690 II that has 2 intakes on the side, idk if they make em anymore
chrome skiff
I could put something on mine <@165619904303726594>
quick locust
i use an old rv02e
chrome skiff
It pretty much fits anything unless you have a super unique pcb
modern gull
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/tower/GS5/SCGS50-000R
Oh nice
Side fans
modern gull
Can you fit a 240mm radiator on the top? Then this would be pretty perfect
modern gull
If it has fan mounts it would probably fit without issues
modern gull
their cases arent exactly modern super gamery rgb but
I dont really care about RGB 😛
weak girder
Im curious, but how does single channel ram affect gpu usage in bf5?
modern gull
I think it actually affects it quite abit 
weak girder
lower cpu performance
but one of my friend with a ryzen 3100 with a 1650 super gets around 100% cpu usage and 60-70% gpu usage with 1x16gb ram. Is it cpu related or ram related?
quick locust
more cpu limited = gpu has to wait on cpu = lower gpu usage
it is both
the cpu has half the ram bandwidth available because of the ram config
so it performs worse
weak girder
cuz he thinks getting another stick of 16 gigs will help his fps/frame drops and I agreed with him
quick locust
yes
is it prebuilt
they often put one ram stick
which is annoying
32 GB is way overkill but dual channel will help
weak girder
is it prebuilt
no but at the time he bought it he didn' t know a whole lot about pc' s, he chose the parts he wanted and decided to get it built by professionals at a computer center and they kinda scammed him to make the build cheaper
I think it' s pretty unprofessional they didn't tell him about it
quick locust
this is with a 8700K
weak girder
this is with a 8700K
yeah, significant impact
weak girder
32 GB is way overkill but dual channel will help
yeah but he only has 2 ram slots and he's not gonna buy 2 stick of 8 gigs when he already has one slot occupied by 1 stick of 16 gigs
quick locust
ah
chrome skiff
Well for compatibility it might be easier. He has to get ram that works with the stick he has
quick locust
ye
it also depends on game, some don't make difference while battlefield 1 and 5 do a lot
depending whether the game is cpu intensive or not
in BFV dual channel helps a lot
so yeah tell him to get another stick 😛
weak girder
it also depends on game, some don't make difference while battlefield 1 and 5 do...
true, gpu intensive games dont affect him a whole lot
chrome skiff
Eft is also getting a nvidia reflex update today at some point
weak girder
wonder if genoa increase core count
funny how ryzen is getting a lot better than intel when before, they couldnt even compete
weak girder
yeah
prime jasper
Quick question, can I use 4 ram sticks if my CPU supports Dual channel only?
quick locust
yes
weak girder
using 4 ram sticks is kinda wierd to me
quick locust
i do that, i run four 8 GB sticks
weak girder
i do that, i run four 8 GB sticks
dont you get the same performance than with 2x16?
quick locust
@prime jasper you will see many intel and am4 boards have 4 slots despite no am4 cpu supporting more than dual channel, but they'll just use two sticks in each channel
prime jasper
<@456226577798135808> you will see many intel and am4 boards have 4 slots despit...
Oh I understand now
chrome skiff
I also run 4 8's since amd likes it
prime jasper
As I have 16 GB now, later I want to add 2 more 8GB sticks
weak girder
As I have 16 GB now, later I want to add 2 more 8GB sticks
why?
quick locust
both intel and amd just use dual channel on mainstream cpus
quick locust
I also run 4 8's since amd likes it
still the same bandwidth as with 2 sticks.
quick locust
(also you can do dual channel with 3 sticks too, even though it looks weird)
weak girder
except if you really are working with a huge amount of data
prime jasper
except if you really are working with a huge amount of data
Oh ok
weak girder
16 gigs is enough for gaming and multitasking
prime jasper
Oh then I'll stick with the 16
chrome skiff
still the same bandwidth as with 2 sticks.
there are videos of ryzen doing better with 4 sticks vs 2
prime jasper
Bruh lol
chrome skiff
Its been known since ryzen 3 and 5000 series came out. I have 4 sticks of dual rank and i score almost 10% consistently higher then most other ryzen systems
near rune
you need 64 gigs to run the game correctly
even simulator games take less than that
that game is just buildings
quick locust
there are videos of ryzen doing better with 4 sticks vs 2
it's cause of ranks, not 2 vs 4 sticks
chrome skiff
it's cause of ranks, not 2 vs 4 sticks
He has scores of 4 sticks vs 2 sticks. He references the whole video every score of 4 sticks scores vs 2 sticks scores. Even said each kit shows improvement with 4 sticks instead of 2 on ryzen.
quick locust
because they are single rank sticks
two dual rank sticks would perform the same as the four single in his video
weak girder
ram is wierd
chrome skiff
In the beginning he says accidental discovery of 4 sticks vs 2 and all kits scale some better then others but all kits scored higher. He has multiple kits with different ranks and they all showed improvement
I would watch the whole video its pretty informal
Just click on the end stretch of the video the conclusion. I brought up ranks gn didnt
He says 4x8 for real gives positive impact and can be up to 4-10% INCREASE
oops
quick locust
he did bring up ranks
in the part with Wendell
Though he only went over it briefly
chrome skiff
He doesnt reference ranks after that at all. In the conclusion he says 4 sticks vs 2 can offer up to 10% improvements nothing about ranks or kits
quick locust
yes when they are all single rank
but a dual rank kit with two sticks would do the same as the 4 single
chrome skiff
His g skill kits is a gtzkw which is a dual rank kit. Scales with 4vs 2 sticks also
You can find a list of dual rank kits on any mobo vendors website with x570s x470 mobos
He has used that kit since it came out and talks about using that kit in any cpu testing video
quick locust
I know
chrome skiff
So both single and dual rank kits with 4 sticks vs 2 sticks has shown increase across the board
quick locust
I use 4x8 dual rank
chrome skiff
per his video
chrome skiff
rip
my 3d mark scores drop 8% if i take out 2 sticks and a game like bfv can see performance increase too. I get better gpu usage with all 4 slots filled
not really like max fps but the lows and the drops are much higher
quick locust
chrome skiff
woah i have bank lable what command is it to get all that info
thats your cmd yeah?
quick locust
lshw
chrome skiff
? is that the command?
quick locust
yes
chrome skiff
command not recognized
quick locust
im not on windows
chrome skiff
oh gotcha
I figured it out anyways but thats was pretty neat to learn
The aio talked reminded me i have some screws to shave down today
chrome skiff
My back plate mounts but it flexes under the kraken mounting screws. Not that it hurts anything but it bends out and looks funny
weak girder
btw @quick locust whats your gpu?
chrome skiff
Is that stock? my 8086k did 5ghz at 1.275
quick locust
gainward 2080 ti
yeah ive had issues getting 5.0 stable on this
it is now though
and no its not stock
quick locust
5.0 1.35V
chrome skiff
still not bad its under 1.4 so id say a win
quick locust
z390 aorus pro
chrome skiff
yeah mine was the master
quick locust
yeah i just had issues with llc for a while until gigabyte came with update
chrome skiff
what llc are you on? I have sensors all over my parts so im on asus atm i have a 6 llc and the 1usmus ryzen tuner so it does 5ghz all core at 1.345 volts sometimes 1.4v which is better then thestock 1.49
quick locust
i ran geekbench quite a few times lol
i am on turbo i think?
gigabyte doesn't use numbers there
i think high and turbo
got 1501 in single and 8601 in multicore in geekbench 5
chrome skiff
Huh my master had 10 numbers with like turbo in quotations next to 3 etc
chrome skiff
i think master was a high end board or higher end board so maybe? Doesnt matter it gets the job done
quick locust
yeah works anyway now
latent light
quick locust
nice
fallen harbor
woah
grave basalt
My 1070 will actually be able to run Battlefield 2021
prime jasper
AMD has been coming out with some awesome tech.
fallen harbor
My 1070 will actually be able to run Battlefield 2021
latent light
BF6 should be better optimized than BFV imo just because better dev teams and longer dev time
proud trellis
i might get it. just need to wait for the specs list
fallen harbor
idk i think bfv is super well optimized
got like 100fps on my 8400 and rx590 on 1080p on high settings
supple bane
Its just really cpu intensive
quick locust
Indeed
supple bane
On op underground my gpu drops below 50% usage
and I get like 70 fps
quick locust
And a lot of money and luck
There's not many
Nvidia driver already has it, but proton doesn't yet for non native games
But not a partnership I'd expect
prime jasper
of course there are not any official system requirements yet, but if we just had to give a guess would a ryzen 5 2600 and a 1660 ti run bf6 at least on medium 60+fps?
quick locust
ye probably, but noone knows yet
prime jasper
yeah, aight thank you
gritty mulch
yo guys has anyone here had a persistent problem with random crashes on bfv?
because I been getting crashes for almost 2 years at this point, making it impossible to play the game
I think it has to do with the game's management of ram, but I'm not sure
its a shame because I really like the game
fallen harbor
@gritty mulch Share the specs of your computer
gritty mulch
ryzen 5 2400g
fallen harbor
i don't think it's a ram problem, would rather assume it's a storage drive problem
fallen harbor
ever tried it in a different drive?
fallen harbor
operating system?
fallen harbor
idk
latent light
fallen harbor
do you have a monitoring software?
latent light
AMD RX 6000 mobile is insane
gritty mulch
yeah I have
fallen harbor
never surpassed maximum tolerated temps?
fallen harbor
i imagine youre not overclocking your gpu
fallen harbor
you never had a consistent crash problem like this in any other game?
gritty mulch
no
latent light
https://twitter.com/ExecuFix/status/1399777495730249728 @quick locust
Twitter
quick locust
wait does bfv have linux support?
not offically but it runs in proton
gritty mulch
I had a similar issue with rainbow 6 siege, but it looks like it was a driver issue
latent light
4.3GB L3 cache on Epyc Milan-X
gritty mulch
not offically but it runs in proton
thats very interesting to know
fallen harbor
given you tried it in different drives and the problem still persisted i can only assume it's a processor problem. You have RTX on? tried switching this option off?
fallen harbor
i would try disabling your IGPU absolutely in the bios
fallen harbor
so this started happening ever since you got the 2060
thats weird
i really dk what to say
gritty mulch
I was checking and the game on dx11 uses 10gb of ram singlehandedly
gritty mulch
so this started happening ever since you got the 2060
no, it was actually fine for a few months and then slowly began declining in performance, where it finally began crashing
fallen harbor
whats your psu?
gritty mulch
500w seasonic
not sure what model
but I haven't had any power failures at any point
fallen harbor
if its seasonic i wouldnt care
gritty mulch
I was reading that dx12 uses more ram than dx11, so I'll keep trying dx11
fallen harbor
sorry for this silly question but are you 100% sure you connected the pcie wires?
gritty mulch
yes
I was playing for like 2 hours yesterday and it didn't crash on dx11, but for all I know it could a coincidence
I've been able to play for a few hours without it crashing on occasion
but most of the time it crashes within 15 minutes
fallen harbor
i can only imagine its a very rare and specific problem related to your hardware but theres no way i could put my finger on it
supple bane
anyone know how to force delete a folder ?
found a folder that is completly empty but is saying i need permission to delete
chrome skiff
You can go through properties and find the directory and delete it through cmd, windows 10 has had a ton of those is it still there after a restart?
quick locust
Use powershell
near rune
Powershell or cmd
supple bane
i know how to do neither of these things :)
if i told you the name of the folder was fg and the directory was just (f:)/fg
what would the cmd command be ?
chrome skiff
Is the folder on your desktop?
supple bane
no but i can put it there
chrome skiff
no but i can put it there
del C:\Users\mini\Desktop\test.txt
can you put in your own info?
I just tested it and thats the one that works
chrome skiff
in properties of said file it should give you the location and directory
chrome skiff
I asked already he didnt say
supple bane
its been there for a while, thought it was something actually needed but i just checked and it was empty so it wont go from a restart
chrome skiff
was it any type of update file? Or a duplicate of an important file? Or just random stuff
like the folder
supple bane
idk, it was named program files but its not on my boot drive nor has that drive ever had an os installed on it
and it didnt work, the command ran but the folder is still there
chrome skiff
Did it say anything on cmd? Also was it in admin mode like itinn recommended?
supple bane
nope. just asked me if i was sure and then nothing
chrome skiff
Interesting, i just tested it before i gave you a dummy command it took the file away.
Maybe do a trim of the drive and restart
supple bane
well i mean im not that desperate to get rid of it
its just an empty folder. just my OCD man.
chrome skiff
ok go to folder properties and go to security
gritty mulch
@supple bane do you not have administrator permissions on your pc or something?
chrome skiff
if it doesnt say you have permission to change it so you do
you have to change it so you do*
gritty mulch
because you should be able to delete empty unnattached folders without problems
chrome skiff
lemme pull it up on windows forums
supple bane
yes i have admin permissions lol
gritty mulch
then thats weird
supple bane
ehhhhh. i think ill just leave the folder there heh
chrome skiff
Im gonna delete that message since its so large
Like i said trim/disk cleanup can clear a lot of residue from old files like temp files and stuff maybe try that
supple bane
i just named it z so its at the bottom of the list. that will do me for now till i can be arsed to find a work around
i could also probably transfer all wanted folders except that one, format, then transfer back
chrome skiff
move it to a usb and throw the usb away :[)
supple bane
yeah lol
its like 800gb tho and the only drive i have with enough room is external and capped at 120MB/s, so it would take a while
infact yeah its exactly 800gb
supple bane
all the folders that i want,
i wonder if on another computer it would be delete-able 
anyone wanna try? xD
ahh you cant send folders on discord, shame
biggest prank ever, immortal empty folder
chrome skiff
i mean the persm seem off or just lost so it probably wouldnt allow them to delete it either
supple bane
slap a rick roll in there and its good to go
quick locust
windows moment
supple bane
alright mr linux 
supple bane
great im sold, moving over tomorrow
molten coral
quick locust
do rm -r -fo dir_name
molten coral
I've a love and hate relationship with Linux
quick locust
in powershell as admin
supple bane
and finished :)
done some changes. before my dads pc had a 2tb hdd that i networked so i could use as well. and then i basically turned that hard drive into a network drive server for all ma devices. but i changed it around so now the drive is local to my machine and mapped to my dads pc. so my games launch faster and he still gets his solitare high scores or what ever he is storing
win win
even went all fancy so its segregated. my dad only sees his stuff whilst on my laptop and my phone i see all my stuff but not his stuff
quick locust
command worked?
supple bane
no
quick locust
bruh
whole knot
What is technology
proud trellis
...
storm osprey
quick locust
Ye shortage
fair perch
Anyone here a fan of Neuralink/the "wait but why" articles?
lofty light
Neuralink is something I'm super interested in honestly
gritty mulch
Same
I'm mostly fascinated about the idea of totally paralyzed people moving again
That's what would blow my mind
And the monkey who plays pong
fair perch
Have you guys read the Wait but Why article? It's pretty lengthy, but totally worth it lol
gritty mulch
I have pretty unstable hands so I'd like to see if neuralink can fix that
lofty light
Defs see the appeal there then
gritty mulch
I mean it could have so many medical applications
I don't really care about the AR vr crap to be honest
Just the misuse of revolutionary technology
Vr and ar headsets are already a thing and are constantly being improved
lofty light
That's the problem current VR and AR are bandaid solutions
Some kind of BMI setup is the gold standard that would fix all of it
digital hill
Honestly I just want neuralink for AR/VR purposes
I see big problem there.
If neuralink goes into brain than would there be technology to be able to hear your thoughts and make it free data for other companies to know what you can buy.
lofty light
Of course, the privacy thing is big there
So long as it only goes into the motor functions section then we're good though
digital hill
So long as it only goes into the motor functions section then we're good though
THat's true
fair perch
not sure if I can post links but this is relevant https://imgur.com/a/ewIIzGd
sinful mantle
tell that to those that suffer Tourette's Syndrome
mild siren
If neuralink goes into brain than would there be technology to be able to hear y...
When when cyber attack
plucky token
quick locust
orchid folio
Lmao wtf
quick locust
Intel gpu
orchid folio
sonic marsh
igpu?
latent light
dGPU
half kelp
Anyone playing on low desktop like norml pc?
gritty mulch
bro what
gritty mulch
wdym normal pc
half kelp
o0mg
gritty mulch
everyone plays on a normal pc
half kelp
you stupid lol?
proud trellis
a desktop pc ?
gritty mulch
you stupid lol?
bro don't blame me because you're tech illiterate
half kelp
a desktop pc ?
mhm
gritty mulch
bruh gaming pc's are also desktops
proud trellis
these lol ?
half kelp
Yea but most people play on gaming
gritty mulch
if you're talking about office-grade pc's
half kelp
Like i have normal desktop
quick locust
theres some that play on office and optiplexes
half kelp
You know HP
gritty mulch
yes we do
proud trellis
yes
quick locust
yes..
half kelp
Yea that what im using.
gritty mulch
christ man you got a bad habit of assuming that people are stupid
proud trellis
what is ur point tho ?
half kelp
and im curious if i buy the game will it be laggy if i turn my setting low
gritty mulch
when you yourself are a tech illiterate skrub
gritty mulch
and im curious if i buy the game will it be laggy if i turn my setting low
it depends what specs you have
dry pike
There's no such thing as a "normal" PC. Just PCs of various specifications.
dry pike
when you yourself are a tech illiterate skrub
Don't call people names, just ignore it if you don't like it.
half kelp
NVIDA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
proud trellis
!!specs
gritty mulch
probably you could run it, just don't expect 60fps
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gritty mulch
I mean to be fair that like console settings
half kelp
and I only got 9gb left cause i download a game which is borderland 3
gritty mulch
ps4 graphics and probably a similar framerates
gritty mulch
and I only got 9gb left cause i download a game which is borderland 3
bfv is definitely not going to fit into that
half kelp
I know
quick locust
bfv is 90 GB ish
half kelp
But when i unstall my game
gritty mulch
yeah I moved it to my ssd a while ago
gritty mulch
then it might be enough
quick locust
but yeah 720 should be ok
gritty mulch
ok
half kelp
I wish there a video of a guy playing low end pc
quick locust
otherwise you can use geforce now if your internet is ok
gritty mulch
my friend plays on a gtx 650 and i5 3470 so you should be ok as long as you lower the resolution
half kelp
my friend plays on a gtx 650 and i5 3470 so you should be ok as long as you lowe...
Is he laggy tho
half kelp
nvidia geforce now, game streaming
ah ok
gritty mulch
I wish there a video of a guy playing low end pc
there is dude, just look up your specs and watch someone play the game with your specs so you can get an idea of what its like