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near rune
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use edge or firefox

prime jasper
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do i have to set it as my main browser?

near rune
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no

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when it opens ur main browser

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close it and open the other one

quick locust
near rune
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then just go to battlelog

quick locust
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I put 380W limit

prime jasper
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@near rune still not fucking working, its saying joining server and nothing else

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im on firefox and using server browser

near rune
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does campaign launch

prime jasper
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sec

near rune
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let me see if i can play bf3

prime jasper
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nah i dont launch

near rune
prime jasper
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my profile is loading

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i just cant fucking join servers

near rune
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are you using steam or origin

shy quail
opaque saddle
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1080p Thonk

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i would go for 1440p if it is 27"

shy quail
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Yeah, I can afford 1440, but my current PC cant really run most games at that res

opaque saddle
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coz the pixel density is too low for 27"

shy quail
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I guess I could get 1440 and just run at 1080p for games until I upgrade?

opaque saddle
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you can run games at 1080p with 1440p display

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it will be blurry because it isn't running at native res

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you should be getting a 1440p display coz you don't have to buy the monitor twice

shy quail
opaque saddle
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i paid for 399 AUD for a 1440p display last year

opaque saddle
shy quail
opaque saddle
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i bought one actually. i like it

shy quail
opaque saddle
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the colour looks great. it is similar to a 500 Euro Monitor

opaque saddle
shy quail
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Yeah, this is well over 400

opaque saddle
shy quail
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593 AUD

opaque saddle
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personally i wouldn't recommend VA panel due to ghosting

shy quail
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Yeah$

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I'll get the one you recced then lol

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If you think it's good

opaque saddle
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i would wait till if it is on sale

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just wondering do you guys have 'end of financial year sale'

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ghosting on VA display

opaque saddle
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i reckon they are overpriced

shy quail
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Everything is expensive now

opaque saddle
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im looking at the other monitors

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give me a moment

shy quail
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Cheers

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These are the ones that are recommended buy the site

opaque saddle
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the viewsonic one was the cheapest 1440p monitor at that time, which was 80% cheaper than the gigabyte alternative model

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do you have a different website that i can pick from?

shy quail
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Um yeah I guess

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Amazon?

opaque saddle
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...

shy quail
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I prefer LDLC because I'm not just getting the monitor

opaque saddle
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sure

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you getting nvidia card?

shy quail
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I'm honestly not sure yet

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Depends on availablity

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I'll either go 6800XT or 3070

opaque saddle
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if you got nvidia card and a freesync monitor, you will need to use adaptive sync (g-sync alternative)

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i'm just checking other monitors

prime jasper
versed burrow
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Didn't get any answers last time I posted this, so I'll repost and see if anyone knows anything.

I've been having the most peculiar issue when trying to run BFV. I'm seeing massive reductions in CPU and GPU usage only when the game is focused. It runs at a smooth 60 fps in the background, but as soon as I focus the window my GPU usage falls down to <5% and CPU usage <30%. I haven't had this issue in any other game to date, so I feel like maybe someone else here has had similar problems. Edit: I've now begun having this issue in several other games as well (although not all). I have ran both Prime95 and Furmark, both of which have no problem getting the GPU/CPU up to 99% without any throttling or reduction in speed.

My setup is the following:
CPU: i7-6700
GPU: GTX 1060 6GB
RAM: 16GB DDR4

Recording/images of the issue:
https://streamable.com/2mqqnn

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/546328626988056597/835631919675867216/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/546328626988056597/835632159024742420/unknown.png

Thanks in advance for any help!

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sorry for wall of text lol

opaque saddle
versed burrow
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1080p high

dense shell
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I have the vx2758 2kp mhd it’s excellent

versed burrow
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my memory is configured to be dual channel, do I have to do anything else to make BFV recognize it as such?

opaque saddle
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scroll up and you can find the product box

dense shell
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Yes it’s very good

versed burrow
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Prime95 also stress-tests the memory, which showed no issues

opaque saddle
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Not much I can choose from tho. The 1st and 2nd option is cheaper than the 3rd one. Both without cannot be move up and down

  1. Acer 27" LED - Nitro VG270UPbmiipx (FreeSync - Standard monitor stand. 350nits, NO USB) - sRGB 100% [330 Euro]
  2. ViewSonic 27" LED - VX2705-2KP-mhd (FreeSync - Standard monitor stand. 350nits, NO USB) - sRGB 131% [350 Euro]
  3. Acer 27" LED - Nitro XV272UPbmiiprzx (G-SYNC and FreeSync VESA Mount Stand. 350nits, 5 USB) - sRGB 130% [380 Euro]

I reckon the 3rd option will look the best If want to get the VX2758 2KP MHD you don't mind spending 380 Euro (I will not get VX2758 2KP MHD but i will get 3rd instead for the price). Otherwise, the 1st option looks good for the price and it works as it is

versed burrow
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what confuses me is how the game can run at 60 fps while in the background, but not when focused, makes me think there might be some bios options wrong somewhere

opaque saddle
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@shy quail

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screenshot your settings

shy quail
opaque saddle
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do you want to move your monitor up and down

shy quail
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Thanks for your knowledge though gamer

opaque saddle
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height adjust

shy quail
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Nah

versed burrow
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height adjust is pog

opaque saddle
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it is awesome

shy quail
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I honestly just want a decent monitor

opaque saddle
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coz i got 3 monitors. 2 with height adjust. i can move up and down to suit my height

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get the 3rd one

shy quail
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Will do

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Thanks man

opaque saddle
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no worries

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if you got a chance. you shall visit a store in person and see how it looks like compared to other monitors

shy quail
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None are open

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Vive la France

opaque saddle
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oh i forgot it was/is in lockdown

weak girder
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does anyone know why I have a lot more stuttering in bfv after a windows update?

opaque saddle
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i wouldn't consider VA panel because of ghosting. The most expensive VA panel has almost no ghosting but that is a samsung g7

weak girder
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is this version causing stuttering in games or smth?

opaque saddle
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idk

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i'm going to test it

quick locust
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People still running 1 core / 1 thread cpus and 1 gb ram then trying to run windows 10 on it lol

weak girder
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No blaming it on their shitty hardware
Yes blaming it on poor optimization

quick locust
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How dare windows 10 not run smoothly on my 21 year old single core pc

weak girder
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however this new update seems to be giving stuttering to a few people

quick locust
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I know

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I linked it

weak girder
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bfv was litteraly unplayable

karmic canopy
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Should i use dx 12 in bf 5?

weak girder
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no

karmic canopy
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what are the downsights?

supple bane
fair saffron
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does anyone use a cracked VPN?

opaque saddle
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@shy quail the last thing i must mention. Please triple check with other people before getting new parts for your PC.
For your monitor tho... I would get the 3rd one because it has a monitor stand and it is G-Sync available (I don't have to deal with annoyance setting up adaptive sync). Others may think sRGB 100% is enough but i like the extra colours that i can see from the sRGB 130% panel). As you said you don't mind paying extra, i guess the 3rd one is the best for you

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versed burrow
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I feel like it is fairly factual that windows includes a lot of bloat that isn't necessarily useful to the average user

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that doesn't mean it's the evil of all evils, but it does mean that some Linux distros will tend to run faster

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still, expecting a 1-core cpu to be able to pull its weight in 2021 might be a bit much

versed burrow
supple bane
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thats happening as a consequence, not as a cause

versed burrow
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in fact, my entire (normally quite noisy) computer becomes deathly quiet

supple bane
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because the fps is tanking, i imagine usage will also tank?

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and thus the hardware is making no heat. and therefor the fans will spin down

versed burrow
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I feel like if that was the case, the fans would stop spinning as soon as the hardware cooled down, and not immediately once I focus the window

supple bane
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you would be supprised how quickly heat can be disipated once load is removed. but you tell me, is your hardware over heating ?

versed burrow
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Furmark runs fine

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idk what overheating looks like but it definitely isn't heating up enough to clock down

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I can hear the fans making a "rat tat tat" noise as they start and stop spinning every time a new frame is running

weak girder
versed burrow
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this is not how a game is supposed to work

tender horizon
young hearth
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This better be able to have RTX onleo

versed burrow
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ok so get this

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I did literally nothing and now the game runs

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I opened up the computer and tried to locate which one of the fans was having problems (it wasn't all of them)

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and now it works, didn't even do anything

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lets hope it stays this way

humble crane
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Hey, I'm new here. I gotta ask something.
I usually play CS:GO. Today I installed BF1 which I bought back in the day, and gave it another shot. Input lag was horrific. I disabled dx12 and all overlays (origin, discord, nvidia) and it is now much better. But it's still far from being as crispy as CS:GO, and so aiming is quite cumbersome and slow.
I'm on a gaming laptop (gtx 1070) with a 144hz screen. I get around 70fps in singleplayer, which isn't great, but I didn't expect much more on a 5 year old laptop.
Is there anything else I can try to reduce input lag, or is battlefield just laggy by comparison? I know some other games never felt as crispy as CS:GO either.

proud trellis
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CSGO is very old and isnt rlly a graphical game

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so you would get way more frames then BF1

humble crane
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Yes. But the input lag shouldn't be due to fps.

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At least I don't think. I'm gonna throttle csgo to 70fps tmr and see how it feels.

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Maybe I'm just too used to 144hz

dry pike
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CSGO has simple bullets, Battlefield has realistic bullets with bulletdrop, traveltime etc. it's simply just a different type of FPS game.

opal cliff
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How well do you think I would be able to run resident evil village with these specs. I5 7500 gtx 1070 16gb ram

dry pike
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I could speculate but the guess wont be better than if you enter the specs and the game into Google/Youtube and take a look for yourself 🙂

opal cliff
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Yeah that is true. Better to look at videos when it’s out lol

orchid folio
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ban him

dry pike
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@orchid folio Use modmail to contact the moderators plz.

orchid folio
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I pinged him to remove the message because he sent a suspicious link

coarse panther
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Hello does anybody know a good discord bot that displays BF4 stats ?

orchid folio
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@brittle rover

proud trellis
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if you go to #stats and type in what BF, platform and what your name is

orchid folio
proud trellis
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it will come up

tender horizon
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stat tracker only works for bf5

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id try the bot ive linked

coarse panther
tender horizon
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have you tried this one?

coarse panther
tender horizon
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ahh rip

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@coarse panther

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i had to dig around a bit for this one but it looks great

coarse panther
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Ou okey I’ll check it out @tender horizon thank you ! I’ve spent all evening trying to find a good application bot so I didn’t have much time for this

tender horizon
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no problem!

shy quail
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That is your one clue

proud trellis
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fans

shy quail
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I'm an idiot

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Fucking mobile

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Swear down I thought this was gen

prime jasper
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so the chip shortage is going to last at least to 2022

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according to TSMC investor call

shy quail
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That's very old news gamer

prime jasper
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Could a portable missile launcher similar to THAAD have been possible? Could it have been effective with kinetic missiles?

humble crane
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I’m trying to find out whether it’s my pc that’s slow, or whether it’s just the natural sluggishness of the game.

dry pike
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Hard to know what you consider "noticeable". All I'm saying is that CSGO is so simple it's easier for it to have lower latency compared to games like BF1 which has way better weapon physics. BF1 will have slightly higher latency. That being said, it could be your BF1 is not running optimally and that is adding extra latency but I don't really have the information to come to a conclusion about that.

humble crane
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Ye hard to find out

dry pike
ancient ridge
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look at these scams going on on ebayt

humble crane
sinful mantle
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Just in time for BF(TM) release. ...coincidence?...is EA that powerful?

ancient ridge
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i get the best fps in BF4

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BFV yeah its great but even with powerful computer stil get low fps

sinful mantle
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My machine was optimized for bf4 and I get expected frames for bfv with some nvidea control panel custom settings.

weak girder
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what I hate in bfv is stuttering

fickle quarry
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I have been using an older GPU and still get over 100+ FPS on Ultra settings (I have locked the FPS to 144hz and on most maps it is pretty stable). Are you sure your PC meets the requirements?

quick locust
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and that you aren't using the bugged windows patch

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the bugged patch also causes that

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but if you had this for long then yeah its not that

weak girder
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do you think setting the pre rendered frames to one might help?

marsh gull
storm pelican
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I feel so sad that there is a really big chance that bf6 wont come to the xbox one x... i thought it would because the xbox one x can run 60 FPS and 4k

weak girder
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and it wouldnt anyways for recent games

near rune
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I get 200 fps in it no problem

quiet kettle
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yeah

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i play with a gtx 1050 ( OMEGALUL ) and still get a lot of fps even at high settings

near rune
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Nice

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I have 144hz so

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Its partly why i enjoy bf4

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Theres no lag and its always smooth

quick locust
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well

quiet kettle
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I play on a Fucking 60hz monitor and it's still smooth

quick locust
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it was improved quite a bit from launch

quiet kettle
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I'm talking about Bf4 specifically, i have not played Bf5. But my pc would probably struggle with that game.

coarse panther
prime jasper
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oddly i get more fps in bf1 than some of bf4 maps

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if you get stutter in bfv its probably caused by cpu. the game is insanely cpu demanding you really need powerful chip

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my first gen ryzen could not handle it for example

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use console command "perfoverlay.drawgraph 1" to see if its cpu or gpu

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do you get stutters in 24 player match or only in 64 player? i could play 24 player but not 64

opaque saddle
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You shall see whether your GPU usage spikes up to 100% occasionally, and always use dx11

prime jasper
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yes dx12 dont seem to work on battlefield, tons of stutter

opaque saddle
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I had a 960 with a quad core 4th Gen Intel. Either the cpu or gpu would go up to 100%

storm pelican
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Are there ways to get better colors and graphics in bf4 or is 720 max? I have an xbox one x and a 4k tv

prime jasper
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if its not enhanced for xb1 one x there is nothing you can do really for the resolution

storm pelican
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That sucks... they legit let there almost best game die just of the resolution....

prime jasper
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i think they did it to bf1 as its newer

proud trellis
shy quail
proud trellis
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I was close enough pogrich

tender horizon
radiant plover
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Any way I could make bf 1942 menu widescreen? Just wanna play it again.

near rune
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no i dont think

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i never found out how to do it

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its just when you enter the game

latent light
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AMD 4700S (not named Ryzen 4700S) might actually be an embedded Zen2/RDNA2 APU with video memory modules built around it, similarly to the new gen consoles. Looks like it's coming to OEM desktops and possibly laptops too.

sinful mantle
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BFv Nvidea control panel setting @ "Manage 3D settings" under program settings tab:

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Anistropic filtering: Off
Antialiasing – FXAA: Off
Antialiasing – Gamma correction: Off
Antialiasing – Mode: Off
Antialiasing – Setting: None
Antialiasing – Transparency: Off
Maximum pre-rendered frames: 1
Power management mode: Prefer maximum performance
Shader Cache: On
Texture filtering – Anistropic sample option: Off
Texture filtering – Negative LOD bias: Allow
Texture filtering – Quality: High performance
Texture filtering – Trilinear optimization: Off
Threaded optimization: On
Triple buffering: Off
Vertical sync: Off

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I run a AMD FX 8350 w/GTX 1060 used to have GTX960 on the same settings...machine optimized for bf4 but with these settings BFv runs smooth as silk

proud trellis
digital hill
molten bramble
latent light
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AMD growing a lot in the data center segment lately

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Because of Epyc Milan

turbid verge
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they dont need it lol

latent light
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390Hz monitor

weak girder
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I saw that somewhere

molten bramble
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The human eye cannot process faster than 60FPS. Not sure where you saw 300Hz.

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The advantages of higher Hz is the seamlessness of the source.

young hearth
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isn't the human eye like a quarter millisecond off or something, because it has to send the information to the brain

molten bramble
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So while we can only perceive to a certain FPS, we can compound the amount of input up to what 60FPS could transfer.

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I think they did a good job of explaining.

weak girder
molten bramble
# weak girder yeah but we can notice 120fps tho

Noticing or reacting and actually processing are different. The body can react to stimuli. The FPS of that has nothing to do with it though in terms of our raw intake. What it has to do with is how much the receptor is bombarded.

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The high FPS 144Hz (or even the 240Hz) can achieve in a monitor provide a higher bombardment rate that makes the image less of a picture flipper show (in nanosecond/millisecond scale) and more of a movie. We're still only receiving in 60FPS for intake, but the amount of input in that intake is doubled or more.

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This is the limitation inherent to Bloch's law.

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What does this mean for us? Image quality, uniformity, unadulterated motion, etc..

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Anyways, that's a pretty simplified explanation. The topic is actually pretty complex. PC Gamer awhile back tried their hand at explaining some of it as well: https://www.pcgamer.com/how-many-frames-per-second-can-the-human-eye-really-see/ I know that Linus also tried with his experiment with Shroud and friends.

pcgamer

30 fps? 60 fps? If you've ever debated framerates, the cognitive researchers we spoke to have some complex answers for you.

quick locust
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human eyesight is not uniform

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And you can detect far faster than 60 with eyes

alpine haven
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Pretty sure the detection versus processing was discussed above.

quick locust
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You can process it faster as well

alpine haven
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Heh, okay.

opaque saddle
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With 144hz monitor, You can see the frames earlier than a typical 60hz

quick locust
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60 Hz is just common because that's the frequency of the power grid which old tvs were tied to

weak girder
quick locust
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50 if europe

alpine haven
weak girder
# alpine haven ???

for example in csgo with a 144hz monitor you can see someone before they see you if they have a 60hz monitor

quick locust
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I know, just why 60 is common

opaque saddle
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Yeah I have tested it

alpine haven
weak girder
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no

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Im not

alpine haven
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Okay.

weak girder
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I think you are

alpine haven
opaque saddle
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Coz the pictures from live television was 50 or 60 FPS interlaced due to the bandwidth

alpine haven
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What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

quick locust
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You can process faster than 60 by far, but the eyesight is not uniform in your field of view

alpine haven
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You can detect in your peripherals faster than 60Hz.

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I think some reading needs to be done.

molten bramble
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What is this?

weak girder
molten bramble
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Passwords should be hashed.

molten bramble
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Yes, I'd mentioned this previously.

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The second video on the topic is better, however.

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Better control.

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I would never enter a password into Discord outside of their authentication vehicle.

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The case study on Bloch's law is where folks should start. Then go from there.

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Everything else is a broad base of speculation and theory.

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If it's endorsed by the platform, then I'd consider it. If it's an add-on/mod, absolutely not.

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I posted the write-up from Science Direct above.

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It's nearly 3AM, gotta sleep. Y'all have a good one.

quick locust
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Your own linked article

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And that 13 ms was their limit because they used a 75 Hz screen

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and the second one doesn't exactly agree with itself

sonic marsh
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Wait... Human eye can catch out 75 fps?

quick locust
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Much higher, but the eyesight is not uniform

sonic marsh
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I remember some guy told me that 400 fps is max

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And i fricking play in 75 fps , its smooth

quick locust
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Yeah I use 165 hz

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is good

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Try using VR at 30 or 60

sonic marsh
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VR is another thing

opaque saddle
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Unless your app is high traffic/ you will it will be popular. SSD for database is a good option. However, it is down you how much you are willing to pay up front

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Coz it sounded to me HDD is capable

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At the same time, you have to pick the right hard drive for the right tasks

sonic marsh
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HDD depends on its RPM

opaque saddle
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Database

sonic marsh
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Do . not . buy . the low - RPM

quick locust
sonic marsh
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yeah

opaque saddle
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The entry level server hard drives are usually 5400

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If he can pay for the price for a higher end products, he can pick SATA SSD

sonic marsh
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7200 RPM should be good

opaque saddle
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Personally I don’t get anything other than Samsung SSD. I preferred to get a HGST HDD if you don’t want server HDD

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You should do a stress test first

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You should setup a website and record the bandwidth required for 1 person

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Then, multiply it

quick locust
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And use a decent file system

opaque saddle
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You will be very surprised how much bandwidth will be required

sonic marsh
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I have around 4500 RPM on my HDD and BF4 maps are loading by 7 minutes...

opaque saddle
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Sounds like your HDD is either full or really old

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We are talking about Servers, which is a completely different thing compared to gaming

quick locust
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HDDs don't slow down when nearly full

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And they generally don't with age either

opaque saddle
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Depends. If you got a 99% full hard drive then you can tell

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I had one. It was shuffling data and it was slow, really slow

quick locust
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Mostly only if you have pagefile or swap on it

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Otherwise there shouldn't be difference between 1% full and 95%

opaque saddle
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What happened was, it was constantly at 100% and 99% full

quick locust
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Don't have pagefile/swap on a hdd

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:P

weak girder
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I cant stand it when my code doesnt work and I have no fucking idea why

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and just spend a week doing nothing except changing some stuff I kbow aint gonna fix it

quick locust
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Me with javascript and matlab

weak girder
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c++ is a pain in the as well

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I mostly only code in python, java, javascript and html

sonic marsh
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ah , yes , the easier ones

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Remember that visual scripting exists lol

quick locust
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I started programming on C, but my current courses requires projects to be done in js and matlab

weak girder
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I make minecraft mods with java lol

opaque saddle
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I hoped there is an enhanced weather mod in MC developed by Microsoft

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I mean supported natively

quick locust
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people get annoyed when using my laptop cause short shift

weak girder
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java is prolly my favorite

quick locust
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I started with C but I just use whatever uni requires, I don't really use it outside of it

weak girder
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Id say python is the best starting language

quick locust
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Had to start with C cause uni required it in a course

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Now using javascript and matlab

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Previous course I used python

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so it varies

weak girder
opaque saddle
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I wrote a little software with python 2.6

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That was ages ago

sonic marsh
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I started when my dad got me a C++ book from windows XP era...

quick locust
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lol

sonic marsh
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Well.. I know Java & C# a little too

quick locust
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At least the code I write is small enough to be fast on anything

sonic marsh
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But i need to say , Unity's Bolt is really good

molten bramble
sonic marsh
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Which Graphics API option in BF4 is better? DirectX or Mantle?

weak girder
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dX

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Id say

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but try both out

sonic marsh
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Whats the diffrience?

weak girder
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depends on people, some get stuttering, other less fps

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itvdepends on your system mostly

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for me theres not much of a difference

dry pike
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Mantle is no longer being developed, many of the ideas behind it were implemented into DX12

quick locust
opaque saddle
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I gave up on virtual box

molten bramble
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LOL, okay.

quick locust
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Wonder if bf6 gets vulkan

opaque saddle
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I realised that once I installed windows 7 on it

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Virtual box is opensource

ebon yarrow
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kinda funny when you use virtual machines inside your virtual machine inside your virt... you get the idea

Once at work I've had to remote desktop from my work PC into an off site PC, from which I had to remote desktop into a server on the same network as the second PC, from which... I had to remote desktop into another server not available to the second PC

Work PC -> off site PC -> off site Server -> other Server

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the details on that might be off, but I do remember there being 3 remote desktop top bars on my computer

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wasn't really anything I'd do daily so to speak. It was a once-in-a-year sort of thing

quick locust
#

:P

ebon yarrow
#

And not everything can be automated

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yet at least

celest lichen
#

I hope you guys have continued to develop this technology over the years. As someone with spotty internet connection I would love to have an offline multiplayer with intelligent AI bots.

https://youtu.be/ZZsSx6kAi6Y

plucky token
prime jasper
#

anyone with sennheiser epos game one headset?

storm osprey
#

no, but those are basically sennheiser pc37x which are fairly common

prime jasper
#

Hey what software do you guys use to monitor temps and performance

storm osprey
#

hwmonitor

molten coral
#

^

supple bane
#

and if i want more precise things like motherboard temperatures or cpu voltage its HWinfo

prime jasper
#

Rivertuner is msi afterburner or they’re two different programs

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And why do you choose this over hwmonitor

supple bane
#

msi afterburner comes installed with RTS

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and has it built in

#

and the reason i use it over HWinfo is it has a really customisable overlay for games

prime jasper
#

Okay awesome

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Thanks for advice guys

quick locust
#

RTSS can get data from both hwinfo64 and msi afterburner etc

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I do that since hwinfo has more info to put on osd than msi afterburner

prime jasper
#

is it possible to

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get an xbox series x

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and use a ps5 controller for it

#

i heard the xbox controller was shit for fps games

quick locust
#

why not just use a ps5 then

prime jasper
#

because

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i want to get

quick locust
#

But I don't think you can

prime jasper
#

gta 4 and my old gen games

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and more of my friends use uhh xbox as well

prime jasper
#

are they like good or? is everyone that plays with them shit

quick locust
#

Don't know, I haven't played with a controller since ps3

prime jasper
#

same as any controller really

quick locust
#

Except sporadically

#

But I doubt they are cross compatible on consoles

#

Apparently chronus thing could do it for ps4

#

But I dunno about current gen

storm osprey
latent light
#

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dry pike
quaint topaz
digital hill
latent light
#

Dammit boy

#

Data center almost quadrupled

forest hare
#

Aside from this video https://youtu.be/i-6OxRBHG3o does anyone have any resources about the audio in Battlefield games? I'm doing an honors project on game audio integration and have always been blown away by DICE's audio quality/immersion/HDR/literally everything!

quick locust
#

Contact DICE, they might answer it well

quick locust
#

They've been increasing it for a few years

#

Epyc is doing well

#

Their most recent is 7763

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Because intel has more marketshare still

#

7763 beats all intel cpus quite a lot but theres not that many of them in comparison

#

Both rn

#

Cost less, is faster

#

Not in everything but most

#

Yeah you got intel ice xeons recently, amd milan and ampere mystique

opaque saddle
#

AMD was making server chips since a really long time ago

lofty light
#

They've only started to be picked up because server farms rarely roll their hardware over and it's also easier to use the upgraded version of what you already had

opaque saddle
#

AMD EPYC has higher performance and efficiency with much cheaper price. Xeon is known for its famous brand and awareness.

#

If I were a CEO of a data center with little or no computer knowledge. If I need to replace the machines, I would go for intel due to the brand reliability. If I listen to others, then I will go for AMD and make much savings

#

I remember AMD used to make Opteron

regal arch
#

Nvidia's ARM cpus OpenEye

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mfw GRACE cpu looks sexy for AI n whatnot

opaque saddle
#

I think reliability is what they also considered

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Servers can’t be failing all the time.

#

Yeah. It’s like this case. For example, I’m a owner of a data centre and I have been intel for the last 20 years

#

In assumption, intel is great because they (I) haven’t tried AMD, the alternative

#

People still preferred intel these days

#

In fact, I was using both Intel and AMD machines in the last 20 years

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And I’m 24 this year

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Idk how AMD is gonna react after intel releasing the 7nm chips

#

Yeah. I know people been using mac from 20-30 years ago, they are in their late 50s

#

Depends on what they are working on. Mac is a better alternative for anything other than a gaming computer

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Coz mac has more advanced features windows cannot provide.

#

I use both mac and windows

quick locust
#

ampere might be bigger challenger to epyc

#

they are about to release 128 core

opaque saddle
#

I know my workload is much faster using a mac than windows. Coz windows gives everyone a headache when something important needed to be completed

quick locust
#

both amd and ampere has lower manufacturing capacity than intel though

weak girder
#

it looks so good

quick locust
#

Wanna see speed

opaque saddle
#

Gaming works on Linux

quick locust
#

Yeah their screens are nice

opaque saddle
weak girder
#

I dont have an apple watch and my phone is an s10 haHAA

opaque saddle
#

So what it means is, you can open the lid and it unlocks automatically

#

Well. There are lots of apps can be done on an iPhone, then it will sync it across to iCloud and your computer

#

No regrets getting a mac for me

#

You shall try steamOS

quick locust
#

steamOS is far behind

opaque saddle
#

Yep

#

Not big picture mode

#

Steamos

#

Steam did OEM their steam machines running on Linux, which has a new UI and interface and calling it steamos

weak girder
#

because it must take a lot of time to make it compatible with every OS ig

supple bane
#

What for tho?

opaque saddle
#

I think Apple is trying to minimise the differences between mobile and desktop

#

Using the same chips meaning the apps can run ideally the same on both desktop and mobile

#

I just realised the 12.9” iPad Pro has 16GB of ram…

#

It uses the M1 chip

weak girder
#

what for lmao

supple bane
#

3d design I guess

#

I've actually seen a lot of people running cad on ipads

opaque saddle
#

I don’t know what it is for. But 16gb of ram is over killed for normal task. It works excellent on Adobe suites

quick locust
#

M1 is either 8 GB or 16 GB in all cases so

opaque saddle
#

Yeah

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1 and 2TB model has 16GB

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Otherwise it has 8GB instead

supple bane
#

Yeah I know what apple is trying to achieve but i don't really see the point in it. It's a solution looking for a problem as to say

opaque saddle
#

At least I wouldn’t use Linux phone for now

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Maybe not in the next 10 years

supple bane
#

I have a basic server that only has 2tb of storage but it does the job for accessing my work from any device, so the "cross compatibility" I need already exists

opaque saddle
#

Linux phone is so basic that… it has all the basic features from feature phones

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Except for camera, last time I looked it

quick locust
#

I've not rooted mine but meh

opaque saddle
#

Not sure how it works. The Linux phones needs people to write codes for specific hardware

supple bane
#

Well, I actually looked into finding ways to turn my pc on from my phone but then I realised, would it not just be easier to... press the button? Most these smart home features are gimmicks at best

opaque saddle
#

Coz there are too many android phones on the market. Each with different specs

#

It is a pain to extend its compatibility to all existing android phones

quick locust
#

I don't like most smart home devices

opaque saddle
#

I bought a lamp and a smart lightbulb, 21AUD in total. I can switch on the light if I’m like 200m away from home

supple bane
#

Asking alexa a question is handy. But I think things like "turn the lights on" is just stoopid

quick locust
#

my sister only has voice commands, no switches

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which is annoying

supple bane
#

Like I said, it's a gimmick

quick locust
#

you can use kdeconnect

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and similiar

opaque saddle
#

I can’t be bothered to get up to switch off the light

#

I think it is mainly for automations

supple bane
#

Its just as easy to press a switch when you walk into the room than to speak a small sentence

opaque saddle
#

You know you can do it in the more complicated way

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Or semi auto

#

I have set it up as. If I left home, switch off the light. switch on the light before I came home

quick locust
#

I just have a light switch

#

No need to have lights on if I'm not there anyway

opaque saddle
#

My mum worried if her iPad got overcharged. I bought her a smart plug. (I could also get a plug with a timer at that time). She is so happy that she doesn’t have to worry about it anymore since we have set up it charges it for 4 hours max.

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She used to leave her phone in the living room and forgot to bring it back, or sometimes with 5% battery left for the next day

#

It keeps charging, but in a really slow pace

#

Nah. That’s not the case. It keeps charging till you unplugged the power

supple bane
#

Most modern devices control their battery and charging to preserve the battery though

quick locust
#

i set my phone to stop at 80% until 20 minutes before i wake up

supple bane
#

I know my phone shuts off before 0% to stop a complete discharge

opaque saddle
#

Yeah. The newer tech allows it to charge the phone at specific percentage at specific time

supple bane
#

I think it shuts off at about 3% battery

opaque saddle
#

The iOS 14 update have learned your daily pattern

#

Same as laptop. Because the computer have no idea when you are going to unplug the power

#

If it draws 100% of the power from the wall and you switched it off. The computer will be shut immediately

plucky token
supple bane
#

would be pretty easy to fake lets be fair

molten coral
#

No, everything on the internet is true.

supple bane
#

sorry, yes you are right

orchid folio
#

indeed

proud trellis
#

how do i change my ip adress ?

molten coral
#

Just the IP from your PC?

supple bane
#

why would you need to change your ip adress?

proud trellis
#

baso long story short on fivem the server i play on some shit went down and one of the co owners just threatened to DDOS the whole server

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i have been on the server today so i just want to change it incase he actually does DDOS

young hearth
#

I would buy a VPN

supple bane
#

that wouldnt effect you

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or shouldnt at least

proud trellis
#

idk the full story but one of the admins come and told me to just change it incase

supple bane
#

i dont even think you can DDOS a home network as to say

young hearth
#

Wouldn't it just DDOS the server and not the people?

supple bane
#

because a DDOS is infecting hundreds of computers with a virus that you made to send requests to a server and overload it and shut it down

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but you cant ddos a network that doesnt have a server that is open to the public

#

and if you can DDOS a network that doesnt have a server open to the wide internet, then my entire understanding of networking is wrong

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since @molten coral is studying this stuff, maybe he can confirm or deny what i said above :)

urban thicket
#

Lol I bet he was banned

#

That was a shit reason

proud trellis
#

no he can DDOS

young hearth
#

I'm pretty sure you just need some sort of connection to something and then you can DDOS anything

#

I'm not really a tech expert

supple bane
#

im sticking to my guns and saying you cant

urban thicket
#

You as a user can't be ddosd

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Your can ddos a server or a service

supple bane
#

only a server with open ports can be DDOS'ed

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like i said. "because a DDOS is infecting hundreds of computers with a virus that you made to send requests to a server and overload it and shut it down"

young hearth
#

Can't you're IP be DDOS'ed

supple bane
#

this isnt possible on home network im guessing

molten coral
#

That isn't entirely true, but I wouldn't think too much about it personally.

urban thicket
#

I'm going to guess this guy was banned from five m and wants back in

supple bane
young hearth
#

I would guess the guy is sending empty threats though

supple bane
#

oh yeah im positive of that

urban thicket
#

"how can I change my IP" classic I was caught question

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I swear I wasnt being an ass

#

I just need a new ip

#

Lol

proud trellis
#

i will show u the screenshots if u dont believe me

young hearth
#

Hmmmmmm

supple bane
#

what that he said he could DDOS? xD

proud trellis
#

of what went down

molten coral
#

In simple terms, they can still fry your router if they want to do so but if really want to be sure contact your ISP and let them change your WAN IP.

young hearth
#

Can't all they do is shut off your internet for a couple hours

urban thicket
#

"how can I change my IP" Thinkeyes

young hearth
#

Yes that is the question

molten coral
#

By contacting your ISP

#

You can't change your WAN IP by yourself

supple bane
#

yeah so i just did some digging and i was both half right and wrong with what i said. a home network CAN be DDoS'd for the same reason that a server can. like nacho said the router has to reassemble the packets when they arrive.

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the reason i thought a DDoS on a home network wasnt possible is because i thought the actual device they are being sent to is the one reassembling the packets which is why i said unless you have a server which is publicly open, its not possibler

urban thicket
#

You can attack any open port on a home network but if you aren't using it or someone else isn't you aren't denying anything or anyone a service

#

It's usually a waste of time

#

That s why you ddos public shit

#

It's being used

supple bane
#

another thing, the cpu's on modern routers are powerful enough to handle a request loop from a single device, meaning a DoS wouldnt be possible and you would have to use a DDoS which is so much more complicated

young hearth
#

So basically unless you've got some really old tech you should be fine

supple bane
#

yes. i guess

#

the thing is. as rownin said. you would HAVE to use a DDoS to overwhelm a modern router. and to infect many computers with a virus that you created and have them all programmed to send requests at the same time is a very complex task

#

and to go through all of that. to DDoS some random home network... very much pointless

#

a lot of people dont realise there is a difference between DoS and DDoS i think.

molten coral
#

I seriously doubt a kiddo from a FiveM server will actually do something.

supple bane
#

they are orders of magnitude different in complexity and effectiveness

proud trellis
young hearth
#

Why do people just randomly say I'll DDOS you if you make them slightly mad

#

Like in cod and siege everyone says it

#

I'm pretty sure their slightly partnered with rockstar

latent light
#

No embed 🅱️eter

patent zephyr
#

Probably should get a new computer

#

I’m stuck with a Dell running windows 7

#

With one hard drive with 40 Gb total space

#

And takes half a day to reboot

#

Would send an image but I can’t

digital hill
#

That is quite old

#

and 40gb total space jeez

patent zephyr
#

It’s pathetic

#

I actually posted an image of it on Reddit

#

That’s what I use lmao_oaml

prime jasper
#

I'm broke

#

I need pic perms frfr

bitter wadi
dull granite
#

copped a 3080 the other day

weak girder
solar kestrel
#

fuck scalpers and there inflated prices

#

dickwad no lifes

gaunt pecan
#

Yea managed to actually find a 5800X and a ASUS STRIX X570-F board.

#

Im not proud of how much I had to pay for it ;u; even tho it wasn't super scaled.

molten coral
#

Oh nice, enjoy.

#

I'm still trying to get a 3080 for a reasonable price but I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon.

molten bramble
#

Years ago, they had resistance from Rockstar. There was a lot of threats made. They came to an understanding and FiveM remains respectful of certain things Rockstar has in place, such as not monetizing the operations as Rockstar does. Anything that would threaten their revenue model is a non-issue. So, Rockstar doesn't give them a hard time.

#

At the same time, FiveM directs that you must have a valid licensed copy of GTA V. So, Rockstar is still making money to a degree and their IP is being respected.

#

I had this conversation briefly with Summit1G at one point, and the general consensus is that Rockstar would be crazy not to incorporate elements of it it into GTA 6 or make their codebase more accessible to select mod partners to extend the life of the title. If FiveM didn't exist, it's argued that their long-term revenue model Rockstar is currently enjoying through way more years of popularity in comparison with previous titles in the franchise would not have been a thing.

#

Essentially, both environments can be symbiotic and mutually beneficial--which costs less money to maintain than litigation.

solar kestrel
#

@molten coral what do you have at the moment?

molten coral
#

2080ti with issues

solar kestrel
#

oh yah thats right

#

i remembe you talking about issues with it

molten bramble
solar kestrel
#

damn

#

when do you think i could get my hands on a 3060 or 3060 ti for msrp

molten bramble
#

Yup, same thing with Arma. And it puts a lot less pressure on the studios to continuously develop content instead of evolving the technology into the next title.

#

I mean, look at Squad. That was developed by the Project Reality mod team in part into a stand-alone title.

solar kestrel
#

like in the fall

molten bramble
solar kestrel
#

hmm alright

#

what card are you going for or do you already have the one you want

molten bramble
#

I have a RTX 3080 TUF.

solar kestrel
#

Damnnn

#

what did you upgrade from

molten bramble
#

1660Ti (x2)

solar kestrel
#

oh so a pretty sizable upgrade

molten bramble
#

Very

solar kestrel
#

no

digital hill
#

All cards right now are being scalped even the gtx 710

solar kestrel
#

i mean like wait time

#

brO

molten bramble
digital hill
#

had to delete some info

digital hill
#

I might want to sell my rx 570 4gb

solar kestrel
#

i dont think anyone would want to buy my floppy disk

#

*Gt 640

digital hill
#

250 used price and I paid 100 for it

molten bramble
#

If these new Chinese ASICs come out, it's going to take a lot of stress off the GPU market.

solar kestrel
#

thats not bad

#

570 is an ok

#

card

#

the thing about bots tho

#

do they just buy as many as they can?

#

I also dont want to use a bot

#

feels a bit scummy and setting it up would be yikes

latent light
latent light
#

Insanely efficient

#

Even after tweaking the power limits, 32 RTX 3080s would be at around 7000 watts

knotty spade
#

hello guys please tell me in bfv why when i level up i did not get any company coins my level now is 19

bitter wadi
#

Must be a bug did you restart your game

knotty spade
#

yeah i restart to many time

#

and nothing happin

plucky token
solar kestrel
#

no shot

quick locust
#

bruh

plucky token
#

thats msi

prime jasper
#

will dx12 give better fps for a 3080?

weak girder
#

probably not

supple bane
#

Depends on the game

#

Bfv. No

weak girder
#

^

shy quail
#

PRICING ADVICE REQUIRED : URGENT

#

IS this worth it

#

I'm gonna get it. I'm awar that it is over priced as shit

plucky token
#

wont be able to use raytracing or dlss

#

and thats overpriced af

#

$479 is the retail price

quick locust
#

you can do raytracing in all games that nvidia also has it

#

but it runs worse

#

But yeah that's way overpriced

plucky token
#

Like, worse in kind of 10 frames

marsh gull
shy quail
#

None exist

#

That's the issue

marsh gull
#

yeah also

ancient cobalt
#

Ps5 or PC or Xbox Series X?

weak girder
#

depends

shy quail
#

PC

#

There is a 2060 for 580

#

But it's not a great card

ancient cobalt
#

After the crypto mining things

fresh pulsar
#

just wait until the RTX super's come back into an okay price range

#

i got lucky and snagged a 2070 super at msrp before the holidays

proud trellis
solar kestrel
#

1660 super to 2060?

#

is that even worth it

proud trellis
#

probs not but still even if i didnt have a 1660 i would get one

shy quail
#

So I end up just paying a premium

#

If it were a 2070 or a 3060, hell yeah I'd buy it

#

But I can't find any from reputable sources

solar kestrel
#

the upgrade would not be worth

weak girder
proud trellis
#

omg i just said if i was to not have a 1660

#

i dont want to upgrade anyway

shy quail
#

I will

proud trellis
#

just saying

opaque saddle
#

i dont think 2000 series cards are good to handle RT tasks

#

except for 2080ti

#

as a 2070S user. not happy with the performance

slow crown
#

hey boys got a question here my pc spec is gtx 1660 and Intel i5 core only one issues im having rn is my bfv stutters a lot even tho i adjusted all the resolution or tried several fixes from YouTube as well it still doesn't work it only runs 30-40 fps for me and i tried all bf games it run smoothly in around 120+ fps

opaque saddle
#

are you using 8gb ram?

#

and what i5 is it

slow crown
#

yes

#

intel core i5

prime jasper
opaque saddle
#

which i5 is it

#

he wanna pay triple the price..

#

i said no to him at first

prime jasper
#

I will sell him my 2080ti for that price

#

which is a faster card

#

or is it

#

hmm

slow crown
opaque saddle
#

what gen

#

what model is it

slow crown
#

9th gen

prime jasper
#

should be up to 800 eur from ebay classifieds germany

opaque saddle
#

lower your sdttings. use dx11

shy quail
#

If you're selling yours I'm interested

#

I'll pay 800 for a ti

prime jasper
#

you're based in eu, right?

shy quail
#

France

prime jasper
#

mine has 3 noctua nf a9's strapped to it

shy quail
#

But I would like to go through something that has buyer/seller protection

#

Maybe eBay or something

slow crown
shy quail
prime jasper
#

I suggest paypal invoices for this stuff. If you ever get a seller who doesn't take those just don't buy it

prime jasper
#

sorry for the confusion 😦

shy quail
#

Wai

#

How much are you selling for then

opaque saddle
#

please go to dm

prime jasper
#

👍

slow crown
#

and what resolution suit my monitor, im using a 27" @opaque saddle

shy quail
#

Agree

#

Sowee dewek

opaque saddle
#

27" has 3 different res. not sure which one your monitor has

#

2160p, 1440p or 1080p

#

choose the native res for your monitor

slow crown
opaque saddle
#

use 1080p

slow crown
#

thanks

shy quail
#

What frame of PRice would I be looking at for a 3060Ti atm?

storm osprey
#

msrp SHOULD be 350-400, though idk prices for you region

shy quail
#

You're kidding

storm osprey
#

how much you will pay for scalping is probably around 700 at minimum if i had to guess

shy quail
#

Lowest I can find is 800 euro

#

+shipping from germany

#

And the guy didn't say he was offering shipping on the damn thing either

#

BUt I asked

storm osprey
#

wait, i was thinking 3060 pricing, 3060 ti msrp is 400 usd

opaque saddle
#

i know nyphon

storm osprey
#

so yea, 800 minimum

storm osprey
opaque saddle
#

i dont think it worth paying triple the price for a single gpu

storm osprey
#

oh, was "i know nyphon" not a "i know this guy"?

shy quail
#

That's all that can be found

#

I'm seeing assholes with fucking 10 card mining setups, all 2080s or better

#

Pisses me off

storm osprey
#

if you want msrp your best bet is to join a stock alert discord/stream and be diligent

plucky token
shy quail
plucky token
#

big retailer

shy quail
#

I'll have a peek

#

Insanely bloated prices though

#

More than ldlc

#

But they do hjave stock

#

So hmmmmmm

plucky token
#

thats the thing

#

3070s

#

3060ti's

#

3090s

#

just no 3080 LUL

shy quail
#

No 3060TI either

plucky token
#

then they got sold

shy quail
#

Where do the 3060 and 3070 place compared to the 2k series?

plucky token
#

they had a few 2 days ago

#

3070 = 2080ti

shy quail
#

Oh damn

shy quail
#

3070 big bucks though

#

I'm trying to stay under a grand

plucky token
#

i paid on the same website 899€ for my 3080

shy quail
#

FUCKIGN WHEN

supple bane
#

you should just wait

storm osprey
supple bane
shy quail
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UNfortunatly they dont stock 2000 series cards lol

plucky token
shy quail
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Hm

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2060 can't do RTW properly though

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So you're paying for cores that you cant use

plucky token
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yep

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tbh, wait

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the market is f**d up atm

storm osprey
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plus its not a HUGE difference

toxic wigeon
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Is there a way I can check what kind of motherboard my computer has got?

fallow garden
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easy

storm osprey
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open up your case and look for a model number

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usually right under the cpu

toxic wigeon
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Ahhhhh

fallow garden
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or download speccy

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😐

quick locust
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or hwinfo64

storm osprey
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will those tell models or just general brand?

quick locust
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model

fallow garden
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everything

quick locust
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lshw too

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But yeah its usually written on motherboard itself too

fallow garden
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I have msi b450m pro m2

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@quick locust what u got

quick locust
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z390 aorus pro

fallow garden
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damn

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bro got sick pc

quick locust
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ye

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8700K good

fallow garden
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wtf

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Kinda sick

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I got ryzen 5 2600

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and gtx 1060 3gb😐😐😐

quick locust
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8700K is in between 3600X and 5600X

fallow garden
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insane

quick locust
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in most things

fallow garden
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whats ur gpu

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rtx 2080

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no cap

quick locust
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2080 ti

fallow garden
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bruh

plucky token
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ha

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3080

fallow garden
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Yall rich

quick locust
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I went GT 750M DDR3 to 1080 to 2080 ti

shy quail
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Where does the RX 6700 XT fit in the Nvidia line up lol

quick locust
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My laptop is pretty avg but it doesn't need to be more

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Near 3060 ti I think

shy quail
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Hmmm

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I mightn get one of them then

fallow garden
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😶

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@shy quail whats ur current gpu

shy quail
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RX 570 8GB

fallow garden
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Wow

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that’s still better than mine- 1060 3gb

shy quail
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The thing is, I have just bought a 1440p 144Hz monitor, so I need the graphics power to push that + a 1080p display

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These are good prices

quick locust
fallow garden
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Sheesh wonder how much was the monitor

quick locust
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😎

shy quail
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Any other sites to recommed?

shy quail
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eu

plucky token
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alternate

fallow garden
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wtf

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Where u from

plucky token
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hes from france

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iam from germany

fallow garden
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wow that’s fancy

quick locust
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Theres not many 6700XT anywhere so you'll have to be lucky

shy quail
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Honestly, so long as it is western europe/UK, we gucci

fallow garden
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Im from eastern europe

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😐😐

shy quail
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I would lose my Freesync

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IS that an issue or no

plucky token
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amd gpus are way less produced

shy quail
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Wait

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THis site is garbo

toxic wigeon
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500 is a very good price for a 2k monitor

shy quail
plucky token
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thats alternate france

shy quail
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That's the entire selection

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YEah

plucky token
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alternate germany has more

shy quail
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Holy shit yeah they do

plucky token
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german company

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

shy quail
plucky token
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if they have something in stock

shy quail
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MSRP

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IN STOCK IN 15 DAYS

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That's the one

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But my banker didn't do what needed him to

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No preorders either

plucky token
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just be fast enough

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camp the website 24/7

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thats what many of my friends did

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and now are owners of 3000series cards

shy quail
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Alternate DE dont ship to france @plucky token

molten coral
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I've been camping multiple websites for a PS5 for the last few weeks but don't have the feeling I'll every get it FeelsMeowMan

storm osprey
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me and my group of friends joined stockdrops discord

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we got 4 3080s in the first 2 months of launch at msrp

plucky token
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

shy quail
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Alternate NL however has cards in stock now, and ships to france

plucky token
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as mentioned. Gpus are rare for a good price

shy quail
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Wallop

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That's as good as it(ll get without preordering or waiting agaes

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For a 3070 eq that doesnt look bad

dry pike
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The official Nvidia website is still taunting me, claiming I can buy 3080s from 760 euro and up. Well, the up part is correct at least.

fallow garden
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ᅠᅠ

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damn kinda scary cpu temp

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playing bf1, stock cooler

shy quail
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EMbed

fallow garden
fallow garden
shy quail
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Yes

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You should regularly clean it

fallow garden
fallow garden
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and with what tools

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and how u clean, everything?

storm osprey
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XPOWERRRRRR

fallow garden
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tf 49 for dat

storm osprey
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how much is canned air?

fallow garden
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i might as well just use hair dryer xd

storm osprey
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thats not a strong wind, and wouldnt trust a heat source on pc components

fallow garden
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cold mode

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: |

digital hill
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some hair dryers have cold mode

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Mine does

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and it can blow fast

fallow garden
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imma pray mine does

storm osprey
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it might take a few years to pay off the xpower vs buying canned air, but at that point its worth

quick locust
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my pc is rather dusty

storm osprey
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i dont think theres a hair dryer in our house

fallow garden
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i aint gonna use this bruh, its scary