technology

[opaque saddle]

was 41C indoor, windy with ceiling fan, door and windows widely opened

[supple bane]

stuff that lol

[opaque saddle]

assumbly i can turn it on and game on it

the room temp should reach 46-47C

[dry pike]

Sounds like you need aircon

[opaque saddle]

i was living in tropics back then

aircon broke during summer for 2-3 years in a row

[supple bane]

i feel bad for constantly complaining how hot my room gets now :[

[opaque saddle]

it is 8C outside and it is 15C inside

[fallen harbor]

aaaaaa

[supple bane]

you good ando ?

[fallen harbor]

no

im at work

[opaque saddle]

i got my desktop running without turbo speed and without hyper threading

[fallen harbor]

and i dont want to work

i want to slack off

and sleep

and eat a big food

[opaque saddle]

still getting 15C inside which is good

[fallen harbor]

literally colder than cersei's heart

[latent light]

Memory manufacturers may use the DDR4 price hikes to their advantage and increase price of DDR5 for profits

https://videocardz.com/newz/der8auer-breaks-gpu-clock-speed-world-record-with-3-225-ghz-on-powercolor-rx-6900-xt-liquid-devil-ultimate

6900XT based on Navi 21 XTXH variant has a higher limit than all the other Navi 21 chips

It goes up to 4 GHz instead of 3

[supple bane]

something tells me thats fake lmao

cuz im pretty sure 65,000 degrees is well past the melting point of a graphics card

boiling point even

[latent light]

GPU-Z glitch

He's using a custom BIOS so there's gonna be some glitches on GPU monitoring software

[opaque saddle]

coz it is 'undetectable '

[latent light]

Actually found out that RDNA2 GPU temp sensors don't go that low in temp so when using liquid nitrogen, you confuse the sensors

They appear to spit out a random number lol

[quick locust]

interger limit is 65535

which that is close to

[dry pike]

If we assume the application runs with 16 bit unsigned integers

[latent light]

[orchid folio]

GPU temperature looks normal..

[quick locust]

Why am I lagging so much in BF1 today? oh well

[gaunt pecan]

Just bought a R7 5800X and have a 2080 do you think 60FPS stable is doable in BFV

[storm osprey]

1080p? low? med? high? rtx? dx11? 12?

[dry pike]

8K ultra settings, ultra raytracing = no
720p low settings = no problem

[gaunt pecan]

1080P ultrawide or 2K with RTX.

[dry pike]

again, probably depends on the RTX and DLSS settings etc. etc. but you can definitely find something that looks awesome with that hardware at 60FPS

although I always prefer to play with 100FPS even if I have to lower some settings a tiny bit

[gaunt pecan]

Monitor is only 75Hz so as long as I reach that im usually happy.

[dry pike]

Aim for a steady 75 FPS then

[modern gull]

I have 3070 which kind of is the same as a 2080, using DXR it may have abit better performance considering RT core 2.0. On most maps i get about 100 fps on all graphics max, but underground for some reason it goes down a fair bit even under 75 fps.

[gaunt pecan]

Which CPU u got?

[modern gull]

i9 9900k

[gaunt pecan]

Aight I should be good then

[modern gull]

But that might not matter as if the cpu is too slow it just cant give out enough frames

[modern gull]

Yep for sure

[gaunt pecan]

Thx

[modern gull]

No worries Btw what cpu do you have?

[storm osprey]

5800x

[modern gull]

[dry pike]

look further up Klikard ^^

[modern gull]

Ya

[quick locust]

yeah so his is better

lul

[modern gull]

lul

[gaunt pecan]

Not here till the 11th sadly. Had to upgrade motherboard so just said screw itand got a CPU too

I have a 1600x now

and yes i know 1600x and a 2080 wtf u thinkin. but that. Thats what I was thinking. CPU pgrade later lol

[latent light]

That's not that bad

[storm osprey]

its a bit odd but ehh

[modern gull]

This cpu good https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/4085vs3937

More than enough cpu

[gaunt pecan]

My mobo is flawed. and I have 2 dead dimm slots is all.

so had to get new mobo

[modern gull]

Oh

[quaint topaz]

BFV's DLSS isn't super great. It's still on the first iteration iirc which really isn't comparable to DLSS 2.0. While it may give you a bit of a performance boost, it really isnt that noticeable. Also - DLSS for BFV is available for 4K+ resolutions only, for some reason.

[gaunt pecan]

My power company is trash. I have a APC on its way too

Guess they be thinking anything 4K or lower should be able to run on a 2080+

[modern gull]

Ya DLSS 1.0 looks pretty horrible and smudgy. DLSS 2.0 its almost no diffrence what so ever, image might just be slightly sharper but not much.

[quaint topaz]

Should be able to run BFV with no problems. If you play at 1080p, focus on your CPU.

1080p tends to be more CPU intensive.

[gaunt pecan]

BFV and Quake 2 RTX. havent tried 2.0 yet

[modern gull]

You will be amazed how well it works

[quaint topaz]

Try Control for a proper DXR showcase.

[quick locust]

Metro Exodus on linux has rtx but not dlss, it makes quite a difference

[gaunt pecan]

I think I got that one on promo somwhere.

O SHID I GOT Wolfenstein Young blood. when did I get that.

Guess i'll try that to

[quick locust]

Yeah

[quaint topaz]

Wolfenstein Youngblood is one of the best games I've tried in terms of optimization. Too bad the story and gameplay threw me off lol

[gaunt pecan]

lol

It seems to be like the new DOOM 2016 in optimization. But not quite. Saw someone playing it on the switch even with decent frame rates even before they OCed it lol

[quaint topaz]

Can run on max graphics settings, DXR and everything at 1440p with around 100-120fps on a 2080 Ti and an 8700K

[gaunt pecan]

With or without DLSS

[modern gull]

In my opinion DXR is abit over rated. I would say only the reflections is worth it thinking performance/quality. There are other sulutions for like GI or ambient light that dont really need raytracing which has better quality to performance compared to ray tracing.

Also i think the materials looks much better in BF5 with SSR

[dry pike]

It makes less sense in a hectic FPS multiplayer like BF, but games like Control is should be great.

[modern gull]

But still other than the reflections its not worth it at all in my eyes

[gaunt pecan]

I just like pushing things to it's limits for fun.

Had this 1600x at 4.2GHZ for a little bit there.

[quaint topaz]

Should you use it for competitive/shooter games? No. Not yet at least.
The tech itself is amazing though once you really start understanding how it works

[modern gull]

Ya its totally amazing how they manage to ray trace in real time how its done now. People would drop their jaws 10-15 years ago i guess it could be somewhat jaw dropping these days aswell.

[quaint topaz]

Can literally see ray traced lighting in real time instead of waiting an eternity for Photoshop or whatever software you use to render stuff

[modern gull]

Ya its pretty useful in that sense, but again other than reflections in games its not worth it i'd say.

[quaint topaz]

ofc that isnt integrated in photoshop, probably never will but still cool 😄

[modern gull]

Mhm

[gaunt pecan]

Hell I drop my jaw at it now. I never believed we would get here in my lifetime

[modern gull]

[quaint topaz]

Lighting. Makes life easier for developers and lighting artists

[gaunt pecan]

I remember watchinga documentary on the Silicon Graphics computer clusters they used to do Toy Story and was floored.

but now. we have a whole luster in a 4-8inch card lol

[modern gull]

Yes that is true. But there are alot of tools that provide pretty good quality without ray tracing. Take battlefield for example i think they still use enlighten. That inst raytraced but it has pretty well quality considering its performance. Also i assume that is easy to use.

[gaunt pecan]

Minus the sunlight going through buildings sometimes 😛

[modern gull]

You mean like light leaking?

[gaunt pecan]

Yea

not as bad as Fallout 4 "Just working" but it happens somtimes.

[modern gull]

I havent noticed much light leaking in battlefield to be honest. If shadow quality is at low i suppose that could happend pretty easy.

[gaunt pecan]

I meant 4 and 1. Not 5 🙂

[modern gull]

Still havent seen much light leaking there

[gaunt pecan]

Maybe from 21:9 Aspect ratio?

Since it can be finicky

[modern gull]

Maybe, but what shadow settings do you use, cause like i said this could happend on lowest settings.

[gaunt pecan]

Ultra

[quaint topaz]

Just reminded me of this. https://twitter.com/PeterSMK2/status/1235514363190140929

PeterSMK2 (@PeterSMK2)

Well that's embarrassing... Maybe I should start playing with RTX off 😂😂 #BattlefieldV #RTXOn https://t.co/gOno0pzTs3

Twitter · Mar 5, 2020, 10:35 AM

[gaunt pecan]

LMAO

[modern gull]

That can happend

I really like the DXR reflections

I did i similar thing in bf1 with my shadow, let me see if i can find it

[quaint topaz]

I played the game in its early alpha stage in Germany during the RTX lineup reveal, did exactly the same thing,

[gaunt pecan]

Thats meme worthy

[modern gull]

Trying to kill my own shadow https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/idffc4/my_biggest_n00b_moment_ever_slightly_embarrassing/

[quaint topaz]

that scream at the end is glorious.

perfectly cut screams

[modern gull]

[quaint topaz]

Night maps can be a curse.

[modern gull]

I genuinely tought that was a enemy lul

[quaint topaz]

Need my FLIR sights and flash lights.

[modern gull]

FLIR are op

[quaint topaz]

lol yup

[gaunt pecan]

I can't get into night ops on BF4 😦

No one seems to play it.

[modern gull]

https://bit.ly/3guNMhN There are some

[gaunt pecan]

Oh snap

Gonna have to hop on later then

[modern gull]

It would depend on TOD and region. I suppose it would be most active would be evenings.

[gaunt pecan]

its almost 7PM now. lol

[modern gull]

What region are you in?

[gaunt pecan]

US EST

[modern gull]

Ah i see

[prime jasper]

How’s everyone doing

[storm osprey]

Good

[solar kestrel]

would be better

scalpers however

[quick locust]

ah yes, spotify

[bitter wadi]

Amazing sound quality

[quick locust]

m1 macbook air has already fallen a bit in price

from 8700 to 8027

[weak girder]

8700!!!

what

[quick locust]

dkk

[mild siren]

IMO the most recent Hitman trilogy has amazing light and reflections

Without ray tracing

no idea what tech they use

looks good though

[modern gull]

It looks decent. Ya games can look amazing enough without ray tracing, its abit over rated like i stated earlier. SSR also looks pretty nice and nice enough to me. But that only reflects what you see on screen which can seem a bit off sometimes, but it overall looks really decent. There are soo many different lighting solutions that looks amazing and even looks comparable to that quality of raytracing without the extra performance requirements. But i think it might be a bit over rated considering how nvidia marketed it.

[quick locust]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UKj4mq0e1OE

:P

[mild siren]

Yeah

Agree with that

[latent light]

Wired charging in 2021

[prime jasper]

oh yeah i have a question so on bf4 there are some servers that say 45hz since i have a ps5 does that mean im playing on those servers at 45fps?

[storm osprey]

no

thats how often the server updates

[quick locust]

that is server tick rate

[storm osprey]

basically players and projectiles are updated at 45hz to the server

like their location

[prime jasper]

am dumb does that mean its slower or faster/smoother?

[storm osprey]

relative to what?

[prime jasper]

30hz standard

i see on most servers

[storm osprey]

it means the server is updated more so its more accurate to player locations

[quick locust]

Higher hz = more updates a second

It's better but more demanding for server

[prime jasper]

ohhh okay that makes sense i was thinking of it takes 45secs to update lol vs 30

[toxic wigeon]

Heyyy how does the Ryzen 5 compare to the i7?

[quick locust]

which @toxic wigeon

[toxic wigeon]

Uhhh

[quick locust]

it is Hz, so 45 times a second, not 45 seconds lol

There's many of each so you have to find SKU @toxic wigeon

[storm osprey]

which amd cpu and which intel cpu?

[prime jasper]

thx

[quick locust]

https://youtu.be/aNK_VfUeBbQ

[latent light]

I like the $300 barebones NUCs

[storm osprey]

i think we lost way

[toxic wigeon]

I kinda uh

Wandered off somewhere off

[quick locust]

but yeah which ryzen 5 and which i7 😛

[latent light]

RTX 3080 mining rig caught on fire

Probably from VRAM getting too hot mining Ether

[proud trellis]

[quick locust]

oof

[fallow garden]

i hate tearing/stuttering that im getting in bf1

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KVk5_JqMI8&ab_channel=ServeTheHome

[fallen harbor]

ryzen 5 is mid tier, i7 is high tier, but new versions of each of these come out often so an old i7 might be worse than a ryzen 5 and vice versa

ryzen 5 1600 is better than i7 3770 but not better than i7 9700

[storm osprey]

5600x is better for gaming than any i7 though at 1080p

pre 5000 series though any amd cpu wasnt better for gaming than any modern i7

[latent light]

Ryzen 1000 single-core performance is comparable to Intel 2nd gen

Ryzen 2000 is comparable to Intel 4th gen

[modern ravine]

i3 8350k and 1070ti can ray trace bfv like 60fps but dips to 40fps in 1080p

[toxic wigeon]

How long should a processor usually last for?

[latent light]

Yeah wouldn't use a 4 core CPU that lacks multithreading these days

[modern ravine]

i3 still op

[supple bane]

depends how you mean

[modern ravine]

cpus can last like 8 years

[supple bane]

if you mean physically, like when will it just stop working, its usually about 10 years

[toxic wigeon]

Cause if i were to go for the i7 10700. How far can that get me. How long should i go before i need to upgrade it.

[supple bane]

probably 5 years,

ish

[toxic wigeon]

Ahhhh

Thats good

[latent light]

CPUs can outlive humans if they are actually taken care of

[molten coral]

3-5 years atleast.

[toxic wigeon]

Looking at the god damn ryzen 5950 god damn that thing is expensive and excessive

[storm osprey]

depends on a bunch of factors, but i would say a good cpu for gaming should look to at least get 3 years of use out of it

[toxic wigeon]

Ahhhhh cool

[supple bane]

well put it this way. i have a ryzen 5 2600 that is 3 years old now. and was AMD's lowest ryzen option on launch but is still going strong now

[toxic wigeon]

Daanb

Danb

Ugh

Cant see my keyboard

[quick locust]

Mine has been doing well for years too, a 8700K

[toxic wigeon]

Uhhh. What ryzen variant is comparable to the i7 10700?

[storm osprey]

5800x

[supple bane]

probably 5800x yeah

[storm osprey]

but 5800x is not worth it at all because of its price

[quick locust]

5800x is better, but cost more

[storm osprey]

5800x is a tiny bit better than a 10700k, but literally like 100 dollars more normally

[toxic wigeon]

So yeah if you want to go big. Its ryzen but an i7 10k should do one well. Correct?

[molten coral]

I also have a 8700k wanted to upgrade to AMD but I'll wait a bit until the prices are back to being more reasonable.

[modern ravine]

i think intel is winning the price-performance rn

[storm osprey]

they are

which is weird as fuck...

[modern ravine]

i9 for 250

[quick locust]

with 11400 to 11600 yeah

and some comet lake

[supple bane]

amd and intel have role reversed

[modern ravine]

i will prob stick to intel forever cause of compatibility

[storm osprey]

what resolution do you want to play at is the main question

[supple bane]

before it used to be amd was the sensible option but if you wanted the fastest on the market you had to go intel. now its the other way around

[toxic wigeon]

1920x1080

Nyph

[quick locust]

@modern ravine what would you have compability issues with amd with?

[storm osprey]

at 1080p its arguable to get a 5600x over a 10700/k

[toxic wigeon]

Basically i got that MSI Monitor and its gonna last me a long time

[modern ravine]

i keep hearing my amd friends complaining about set up

[toxic wigeon]

Oh?

[supple bane]

wut

[modern ravine]

dont really know the details that what i hear

[supple bane]

its no different to intel

just put the cpu in and off to the races....

[toxic wigeon]

If i say really you'd respond with yes really but in your opinion. How big would the difference be? @storm osprey

[latent light]

https://www.techpowerup.com/281355/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-ga102-225-gpu-pictured-and-detailed

[storm osprey]

varies on game, resolution, settings, and other components but if i had to put a number on it the 5600x is maybe 10% faster at 1080p

[modern ravine]

i would only get amd for their cpu gpu combo

[toxic wigeon]

The furthest i'd go is Planet coaster rlly for my computer

[supple bane]

come again?

[modern ravine]

g series

[toxic wigeon]

And while i know i shouldnt go big. I wouldn't mind having some power to spare.

[supple bane]

pairing an amd cpu with an amd gpu bares no benefit

[modern ravine]

i mean like the 3600g

[toxic wigeon]

But thats a personal question

Sooo yeah

[modern ravine]

mini pc

[latent light]

Best value CPUs are i5-10400F and 11400, if you want more performance step up to the 11600K or Ryzen 5 5600X

[quick locust]

5000G series are later this year

[supple bane]

oh you mean an igpu

[modern ravine]

apu

i think they are called apu

[supple bane]

weird way to word that. but yeah, AMD's igpus are better

[quick locust]

AMD calls them APUs when they have integrated graphics

[supple bane]

APU is the combo, IGPU is specifically the GPU part

[latent light]

Ryzen 5000 APUs are a good bit faster than last gen depsite still having the same compute unit counts

[storm osprey]

@toxic wigeon i assume you dont have a pc and are kind of theory crafting?

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah i'm trying to piece together what i want

I'm not trying to go big i just want a decent machine that i can use

[storm osprey]

when do you plan to purchase?

[modern ravine]

btw i 3d printed a pc case last month which i think looks hot but i need shorter individually sleeved cables

[toxic wigeon]

Uhhh.... I'm sorta thinking about it still so nowhere close to now

I won't ask why but at the same time, What do you have to say about it

[storm osprey]

ah, well atm 10700/k are recommended because they are commonly on sale for good prices

[modern ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/712419053590806571/834885638720454706/tq0te9lr_cYSZ6oyqoaXYyl86fbMfEqwwAP6Q_vrfP7NwemEc4-3eHfL50n_aPltzVqWvpGsoz3nXf-Nzh9XcrDIY9_u9HQFLQbZ.png

[toxic wigeon]

Ahhh yeah

[storm osprey]

so in the future i imagine you will likely get the budget king 11400 or spend a bit more for a suitable upgrade in the 5600x

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

[storm osprey]

maaaybe 11700/k will have a good sale but thats just something to wait on

[modern ravine]

intel slashes prices often which i luv

[storm osprey]

of course theres the always rumored 5600 non x variant for 230 which would be killer if its similar to 3600 vs 3600x

granted, last it was rumored thats not coming till end of year

[modern ravine]

i wonder if intel is gonna make a xe/i5 combo

would be cool to see

[quick locust]

well

the i5 11400 and 11500 is

the 11500 has a slightly better igpu

[supple bane]

man i forgot the x500 series was a thing

i didnt even know they did an 11500, that is the first time im hearing about it

[quick locust]

the 11500 just get slightly higher clock and better igpu

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/212277/intel-core-i5-11500-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html

it's the lowest sku with the uhd 750

11600 has it too obviously

[supple bane]

its such a shame not all of intels chips are overclockable

[supple bane]

afaik there is no physical reason for them to not be able to overclock, they are just software locked because intel want you to buy the more expensive models

[quick locust]

at least you can mem oc on all now

and on B560

but yeah they should just make the regular SKUs overclockable

So you just had regular and T SKUs

[supple bane]

whats an SKU again?

[quick locust]

The 500, 600K, etc

[supple bane]

oh right

nah they could still keep the k series cpus

they would just be higher binned

like AMD. just slightly higher stock clocks

[quick locust]

I guess

and nvidia A

They can still do T just fine

A lot of office/enterprise systems use the T variants, lower power

[proud trellis]

does anyone here have experience with the corsair T3 chair ? im thinking of getting it but i see that its cloth and not leather, is cloth just as good as leather chairs or is it personal preference ?

[supple bane]

no gaming chair will be real leather im pretty sure

it will be faux leather

[proud trellis]

oh

[supple bane]

i guess the main advantage of a leather like material would be it not staining if somethings spilled on it. It wont rip as easily and will be more comfy

[proud trellis]

im really stuck between getting the leather or cloth one

[latent light]

I hate that the i5-11400 got a weaker iGPU than 11500 and 11600

But it doesn't matter if you got a dGPU

[proud trellis]

the T1 is the leather one i would get and its 40 pound more then the T3

[storm osprey]

mesh chairs ftw

best bang for buck chair

[supple bane]

if only it was sold in the uk :P

[storm osprey]

imagine not living in the best country in the world

nO cAp

[supple bane]

here we go

[quick locust]

Imagine having a touchpad that can right click

And that doesn't have a driver that tends to crash

[proud trellis]

they look rlly dodgy, i feel like i would sit on it and it would insta break

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/america-patriotic-eagle-usa-patriotism-gif-9438241

[storm osprey]

im fat, mine havent broke

[proud trellis]

oh

[storm osprey]

ive had mine for at least a year now, im 240 pounds too

[toxic wigeon]

Honestly theres two routes that i'm gonna go

if i can't get the sound to work i think its best just buying a new desktop

Hang on. Aren't there limits to how many times computers may be upgraded?

Not many times but many years down the road

[storm osprey]

i think youre thinking of compatibility

cpus, motherboards, and ram change over time and wont universally work together

[toxic wigeon]

Ahhhhh that makes sense

[storm osprey]

storage, gpu, psu, and case will basically work with anything though

(sata storage, m.2 is very mb dependent)

[toxic wigeon]

Question. With graphic cards whats up with the whole x gb thing?

Is it just the load???

[storm osprey]

x gb?

gb is usually reserved for the amount of vram a card has

spec wise the "x" in gpus could refer the to the type of vram? im not really sure on this but there is types of ram like gddr 6 and with nvidia on something like the 3080 they have gddr6x

[toxic wigeon]

i mean like if the graphics card is a 6 gb one

Thats why i put in x, because i thought it must vary between them all or something

[storm osprey]

ahhh gotcha

yea thats the amount of vram the card has

for future reference i personally wouldnt buy a card for modern gaming with less than 6gb

[supple bane]

To explain vram, its just a super speedy peice of storage the graphics card has to store pre rendered frames, textures and other Graphical stuff that it might need

[toxic wigeon]

Ahhhhhhhh

[dry pike]

The higher the screen resolution, the larger the textures etc. need to be stored, the more vram you need. 4K gamer will need vastly more vram than a 1080p gamer.

[modern ravine]

got the same one

took out the arm rest tho

comfy af

[quick locust]

https://youtu.be/0mAesfFt4us

[plucky token]

so, which rigs are you guys running or planning to get till BF releases?

[digital hill]

@plucky token I'm planning on upgrading my gpu to a rtx 3060

[plucky token]

just hard to get right now

[digital hill]

Which is gonna be impossible since scapers go brrrr with stealing cards

[plucky token]

and if, its overpriced to the moon

[digital hill]

But for my rig I'm running its fine

[plucky token]

like, one of my country biggest tech stores has 3000 series cards in stock, just the pricing..

1500€ for an rtx 3070

[digital hill]

jesus

overpriced as hell seems in scalper terrority

[plucky token]

3090 for 3k

glad i got my card before the prices went skyrocketing

[digital hill]

jeez

[plucky token]

after cleaning... already dusty again

[digital hill]

oof

[plucky token]

Corsair Obsidian 1000D Case
I9 9900k @5.1 Ghz
32gb TridentZ DDR4 3200mhz
RTX 3080 ftw3 ultra (lucky catch)
Corsair HX1200I Psu (1200watts)
Asus Rog Strix z390-F
Corsair H150I Pro AIO
2x M.2 Crucial P1 SSD's
2x 1 TB Crucial SSD's
8Tb HDD thingys
Alot of Case Fans.

and that 3080.. paid 899 for it. even tho i waited 3 months for delivery

friend of me ordered on the same day, just an hour later, his card hasn't arrived yet

[bitter wadi]

Bro you got a machine

But there is so much space on the case

[plucky token]

i wanted to build an custom watercooling loop into it

[bitter wadi]

Ahhh understood

[plucky token]

but my money went 🥏

[digital hill]

@plucky token Any reason why your old card is still pugged in?

[plucky token]

its not plugged in

[digital hill]

or is that a rendering card?

oh

It looks like it since it looks like its on a riser

[plucky token]

thats just the safety thingy on the pins

[digital hill]

ah

[plucky token]

i hanged it in there cuz the case looks way to empty without it

[bitter wadi]

True you have a mtx motherboard

That's how it looks like to me

[plucky token]

thats a normal Atx board

[bitter wadi]

Ahhh from the pic it looks like a mtx

[plucky token]

Asus Rog Strix z390-F

the case is just huge

[bitter wadi]

Ye

[plucky token]

70x70x31

ish

cm

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sapphire-unleashes-toxic-radeon-rx-6900-xt-extreme-edition-up-to-273-ghz-gpu

[plucky token]

thats like the 3090 Kingpin

just for raytracing, i wouldnt recommend an amd card

[quick locust]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/40000-amd-b450-motherboards-to-be-manufactured-in-russia-for-the-first-time/

[prime jasper]

Is rtx 3080 worth it?

[near rune]

well yea its a gpu?

[prime jasper]

Ok :)

[quick locust]

Yeah if you can find one for decent price

[plucky token]

its not worth if you pay over 1k for it

[bitter wadi]

Just buy a 3090

If you have the budget

[weak girder]

no a 3090 is not at all worth it

its double the price and like 10 extra fps which you dont need

[solar kestrel]

is there such thing as aux to usb

[supple bane]

Idk but my money is on no

[dry pike]

It's called a DAC.

Basically what you are asking for is a sound card with an USB interface

[solar kestrel]

ohh ok

[sharp night]

Hi I have a 52600 and 2060 M2 SSD and 3600mhz. But every start of the game BF1 so laggy or low fps... Anyone knows why?

[molten steeple]

i have around the same setup but it's fine for me

[opaque saddle]

Disable adaptive sync?

[sharp night]

It's my first time having a game like this on my setup...

[opaque saddle]

Coz I have the same issue after switched that on

[sharp night]

Where can I find that? I have Vertical sync off.

[weak girder]

turn dx11 on

[sharp night]

It only says turn on DX12, restarting game now and will check if it works. Thanks!

[weak girder]

no keep dx12 turned off sorry, turned on it causes some stuttering

[sharp night]

Well it work it's less laggy on the start and the intro is now OK. But you are right in-game it's stuttering now =[

[magic gust]

Can you get hands on one 😆 ? At this point im starting to think its a myth

it doesn't exist

[prime jasper]

I have the the 3070 and it's pretty awesome

[plucky token]

tzz 3070s

[storm osprey]

my group of friends has 4 3080s

[plucky token]

there is a picture above

from my pc, it has 1 inside

[magic gust]

You mind doing a kind donation

[storm osprey]

too kind for my blood

[magic gust]

Understandable, have a nice day

[plucky token]

my close friends do own 3090s,3080s and 3070s

👀

they are even in stock at some point

just overpriced

[magic gust]

I really hope the price drops by fall

at least by a decent amount

[plucky token]

next year fall

maybe

this year? no chance

[magic gust]

Well i guess it depends where you live, some places have a way higher demand

[plucky token]

everywhere

like, car production is halted cuz they get no chips

[magic gust]

Quick question, i know on ebay they are overpriced but do stores like Best Buy or New Egg allowed to raise the price or do they keep it in a normal price

[plucky token]

that pic is from one of the largest Hardware stores in Germany

and yes, they do

[magic gust]

Wtf

[plucky token]

glad i got mine for 899

[magic gust]

How about Nvidia online store, can they sell it also at that price

[plucky token]

they dont sell it anymore

only retailers

[magic gust]

bruh

[plucky token]

and the nvidia ones (not msi or evga etc) are not going higher

just impossible to get

[magic gust]

the 3070 is still at alright price on best buy IF they restock but 3080 is just overpriced

almost 500$ over announced price

[plucky token]

3070... 1500€

[magic gust]

wtf

[magic gust]

thats like almost 2.5x the price there

[plucky token]

1807,60 usd

[magic gust]

actally nvm its like 800-900 but still double the price

[digital hill]

no just no

[quick locust]

😛

[orchid folio]

He is gonna be the next MKBHD

[supple bane]

i think that is real. there are bubbles from where water is rushing to fill the insides

and if its left to dry properly it would still work.

[quick locust]

https://9to5google.com/2021/04/21/google-pixel-5a-5g-chip/

[storm osprey]

thats good for 5a, but at the same time not? 765 was already a "budget" option wasnt it?

[quick locust]

yes

[storm osprey]

this is the part that i get mad about people comparing phone specs, apple gives a top of the line cpu across the board, even down to their budget phones, and people still shit talk them

[quick locust]

yeah, apple SoCs are very good

Been leading for long time

[storm osprey]

people still mention how expensive iphones are as well, when they have been cheaper than samsung for at least a few years now

[supple bane]

i think people mean that iphone dont offer any real budget options

the cheapest iphone i know is like 400 pounds. some people dont want to spend that much

[supple bane]

how tf is 765 budget?!

[opaque saddle]

765 is mid range

He was referring to Snapdragon 765G

[supple bane]

oh i seeeeeeeee

i still stretch my opinion with phone and what processors they have. it doesnt matter..

[opaque saddle]

the midrange android phones are awesome

[supple bane]

the things i use my phone for are- calling, messaging, discord, instagram, netflix, prime video and youtube. non of the above will give me any benefit from a better processor

which is why id rather have a phone get an adequate but cheap processor and splash out on things that actually matter to most people like battery and screen

[opaque saddle]

i dont get why would people wanna get a flagship android phone

when mid range phones are better in terms of functionality

the cheapest brand new iPhone here is iPhone SE 2020. The cheapest I can found is 497AUD (with 10% tax included, locked to Vodafone, no contract). which is about 277.75 Pounds or 385.15 USD

[storm osprey]

i really dont know many phone specs, i just know i saw some complaints about them using a 765 for their flagship phone

[supple bane]

yeah i thought you meant 765 as 765 dollars for a phone

[storm osprey]

ohhh noo the cpu for the phone

[opaque saddle]

Qualcomm's product lineup is really confusing

[quick locust]

imagine having locked phones

[opaque saddle]

they can unlock it for free anyway

[storm osprey]

i dont get phone power users personally

i imagine 95% of people just need something basic for calls, text, and social media/browsing

[supple bane]

^

[quick locust]

ye

I just want big battery and 3.5mm jack

[supple bane]

me too. to watch ma you tubes

[storm osprey]

i just want a phone that lasts the longest for a good price

[quick locust]

my secondary phone is a samsung xcover 4S enterprise

[opaque saddle]

i usually hold a phone for over 5-6 years

[quick locust]

user replaceable battery and 4 year software support

[storm osprey]

this is my first good phone in years, prior to this i had the moto g line of phones for 2-3 years each

[supple bane]

samsung a70 here

[opaque saddle]

i have an iphone xs

[quick locust]

Got my mom a moto G5 power I think its called

lasts long time

[opaque saddle]

also got a poco x3 pro

[storm osprey]

iphone 11 here

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-money-chappelle-king-cash-gif-5008243

[storm osprey]

got it for 600 a month after launch

[quick locust]

My dad was lucky to get iphone 6S from work lul

[opaque saddle]

i dont see the points paying over a grand for a new phone

[quick locust]

But my own phone is way overkill

ROG II

[supple bane]

my first phone was an iphone 4, then an alcatel, then sony xperia, iphone 6s+ then what i have now

[opaque saddle]

my first phone is nokia 3310

[quick locust]

My first was a sony ericsson something

Then a dual screen sony flip phone

[opaque saddle]

my first smart phone is iphone 3G for temporary use

and i bought an iphone 6 when i was in high school

[quick locust]

Mine was HTC something, running 2.2.4 android i think

[opaque saddle]

saved up for around a year

[storm osprey]

my first phone was something like this

2nd was this

[supple bane]

boomer

[opaque saddle]

pretty disappointed with HTC's lineup after htc one

[storm osprey]

slide up keyboards were bae

[quick locust]

mine was this but different colour

I kind of miss physical keys sometimes although not these

these were super mushy

[soft obsidian]

m8 wanna learn to code in python print(i love big massive meaty burgers)

[quick locust]

this phone gets scratched quite easily on the sides

oh well, its just cosmetic

[quaint topaz]

first phone

first smartphone. Well it was pretty smart at the time 😄

[modern gull]

My first

[quaint topaz]

one of the coolest smartphones ive ever owned

[modern gull]

Best i have owned, and still own lul

[quick locust]

Currently use a ROG II which is the most overkill I've owned lol

[quaint topaz]

My all-time favorite has to be the Note 3. It was amazing. I loved the S Pen

[quick locust]

Went sony erricson - some sony flipphone - HTC something android 2.2 - iphone 5 - iphone 7 - ROG II

[modern gull]

Bet that could run tons of games. My phone is pretty limited in what games mine could run.

[quaint topaz]

Tried the ROG phone at a convention. It was... A weird experience

someone working at the ROG booth just sat over my shoulder trying to explain to me how a smartphone works

[quick locust]

ROG III seems meh but ROG 5 looks good

[modern gull]

Nice

[quick locust]

III is just marginal improvement but removed headphone jack

5 had bigger improvements and put 3.5mm back

[quaint topaz]

I went from a OnePlus 6 to a Google Pixel 5

I really miss the headphone jack

[quick locust]

too bad the 5 is more fragile

yeah I like having it

[quaint topaz]

thought I got a free pair of Bose QC 35

so cant complain

they're good

noticable delay sometimes but its bluetooth so whatever

[quick locust]

I use sony something

[modern gull]

Might get a google pixel next, it seemed to have nice specs. Also looked at a blackberry one

Could be abit overkill for my use

[quaint topaz]

I just like the stock android experience. I couldn't uninstall Facebook from my old Samsung S7 edge like fuck that.

[modern gull]

Really?

[quaint topaz]

Could've rooted it but like nah too much effort

yea

[modern gull]

Damn, i'd just return it

[quick locust]

Luckily I've been able to remove it on mine

[modern gull]

Mine too

[quick locust]

Although I have to use facebook anyway

Since it's the only thing my family uses

[modern gull]

Ah i dont use it lul, i have had 2 accounts but deleted.

[quaint topaz]

I really don't like Samsung's TouchWiz or whatever they call it today UI.

[quick locust]

My entire family has facebook as their only social media so

[modern gull]

Well i have phone numbers

[quaint topaz]

I only have my facebook account just because I need it for work

that's about it

[quick locust]

my previous work only used facebook and skype for buisness

[modern gull]

Ah i see fair enough

[quick locust]

I like the lenovo duel 2 and the rog 5

Even though they're way overkill both

😛

more reasonable daily would be samsung xcover 4 pro

or 5

https://www.samsung.com/dk/smartphones/others/galaxy-xcover-5-black-64gb-enterprise-edition-sm-g525fzkdeeb/buy/

[quaint topaz]

Dont think gaming phones will ever grow on me

they just look too flashy

and uncomfortable to hold lol

[quick locust]

xcover series has user replaceable batteries, 4 years of updates, and more durable

so could be a decent daily

[modern gull]

Oh it has metal/rubber body?

I would never buy a phone with glass tho as there is a few times i might drop my phone. I just buy those with plastic body.

[quick locust]

yeah this is pretty durable

[quaint topaz]

I really like the fabric finish on these

and its washable 😄

[quick locust]

and has 3000 mAh user replaceable battery

[modern gull]

[quick locust]

in an ip68 phone with 3.5mm jack

[modern gull]

[quick locust]

so to those saying you can't have ip68 with a phone with both user replaceable battery and 3.5mm well

[modern gull]

Pretty nice

[quick locust]

It's pretty low spec but it's just meant to be a long lasting work phone

[latent light]

Hey look my phone

[quaint topaz]

https://i.petersmk2.com/6042021/VhHXUQRZYT.mp4

trippy as heck

[latent light]

Too bad not java

[quaint topaz]

Yeah

good luck getting that to work on Java though

wish Windows 10 edition wasn't more like Pocket edition

the menus suck

movement is weird

dont like it

[latent light]

I do give bedrock credit for running very well, smooth as heck even with render distance all the way up

[orchid folio]

I thought it was glitched

[latent light]

Java edition always has some microstuttering going on for me unless I got low render distance

[quaint topaz]

DirectX

Shame you're limited to only a few RTX maps

Somebody recreated the pinhole effect and it was just glorious the moment i saw it

[prime jasper]

I got pinged while sleeping

[latent light]

[latent light]

RTX 3080Ti launch May 25th

3070Ti launch June 15th

[modern gull]

2025 right?

[quick locust]

bruh

[dry pike]

not official yet is it?

[plucky token]

"launch"

like. 10 cards world wide

[dry pike]

rumors are that 3080ti wont replace 3080 but just be a cardbetween 3080 and 3090 = more expensive than a 3080

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzzAf64QwBU&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed

seems decent

except for price

MSRP is 480 usd for reference 6700xt, this is 830 USD

asus tax

[quick locust]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-now-google-stadia

[pulsar niche]

@remote rose

Nvm I can’t post pictures here

[remote rose]

lol

but you can post links

[pulsar niche]

I’ll post the amazon link

EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Super FTW3 Ultra, Overclocked, 2.75 Slot Extreme Cool Triple + iCX2, 65C Gaming, RGB, Metal Backplate, 8GB GDDR6, 08G-P4-3287-KR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VHSJ4GV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_SG6760TEP68V5NANJ913

Whelp

It’s a fat card

[remote rose]

not bad

[pulsar niche]

It gets a little sag too

[remote rose]

what is your level in bf5

[pulsar niche]

I don’t play bf5

I only play bf4

[remote rose]

oh

[pulsar niche]

I might start playing it though since I got ea play

[remote rose]

its really fun

try it

[pulsar niche]

I’ve played it, I like bf4 better

Bf5 came with my Xbox, I play on pc more tho

[quick locust]

most gpus hard to get

[gaunt pecan]

And apparently CPUs that are hard to get Amazon ships in bags.

[quick locust]

intel cpus you can get truckloads

[gaunt pecan]

Bought a 5800X like I was saying the other day and I cant share pictures but they sent it in a bag I gotta send it back ;u; im not opening that seal so it's automatically my fault.

[quick locust]

at least 5800X have decent enough stock

[gaunt pecan]

Yeahhhhh but still.

[quick locust]

meanwhile my friend still uses a pc that struggles to run mc

[gaunt pecan]

Mine crashes even on BF4 because of my RAM slot issue and it probably unreversably killing my CPU lol

[quick locust]

ah

my friend has 2008 pc lol

What ram slot issue

[gaunt pecan]

DIMM slots are dead, arent in the correct slots just so it turns on.

Even FFXIV crashes.

Not optimal for raids lol

[quick locust]

rip

not so common I see dimm slot issues

[gaunt pecan]

Yea. Happened after a half power surge and then it shot up to absolute highest power the house can output.

Killed my other PSU too

A 1000W Platinum PSU

[quick locust]

rip

Don't you have hpfi or similiar

[gaunt pecan]

Well according to my power company it is impossible. Even with a melmerter in the wall.

[quick locust]

bruh

[gaunt pecan]

wow

[quick locust]

either licensed or copy right infringement

[gaunt pecan]

why not both lol

[quick locust]

well if sony gave them license to do it, it isnt infringement

[gaunt pecan]

O O F

[craggy halo]

amogus

[hexed mirage]

@modern gull okey doke

so things i have tried

the low spec optimisation tool

compatibility mode win 7 win 8

messing around with nvidia inspector

[dry pike]

is it a laptop?

[hexed mirage]

no

no its not a laptop

[modern gull]

You wouldn't need to run compatibility mode atleast for that game. Did you have old drivers perhaps?

[hexed mirage]

define "old"

[modern gull]

6-12 months old

[hexed mirage]

hmm i think i might be one update behind

let me update those real quick

[modern gull]

👍

Might be some issues with the drivers you have now tho

[dry pike]

if you were on answers.ea.com I would have asked for a dxdiag file, but since this is Discord I would suggest a proper clean uninstall of your graphics drivers using DDU
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
followed by installing the latest ones.

[hexed mirage]

ill try that if the update doesnt do the trick

its kinda extensive

[modern gull]

It might be. Could maybe be also your cpu running at 100% for some reason

[hexed mirage]

wdym?

[modern gull]

Sometimes origin just uses unnecessary high load, so maybe your cpu is is causing the lag.

[hexed mirage]

i can do a CAM test real quick when i try it next

im not thinking that is it

cause i do BF1 with Orishit and it doesnt tank the cpu there

[modern gull]

[hexed mirage]

Lmao

CPU load 19%

heat 29c

def not the cpu cap

[modern gull]

Mhm

[hexed mirage]

also nvidia driver update didn't change it

i might say fuckit and just play BF1 instead

[modern gull]

Sadly i am really unsure what could cause this issue hmm....

[hexed mirage]

Yeah idunno

BF4 was running fine

[modern gull]

So that game specific then. You could try and re install it. Maybe delete settings folder in documents first to ses if that helps.

[dry pike]

What DDU fixes is just drivers getting messed up over time. Nvidia drivers are kinda a mess. I do a DDU probably twice a year when some odd behavior happens.

[modern gull]

Nvidia drivers can be abit messy sometimes ya. Personally i have never had the need to use DDU

[dry pike]

Arent you a lucky duck.

A clean install using the Nvidia installer is like 70% of a DDU uninstall

still catches a lot though

[proud trellis]

my pc just bluescreened when my pc froze....

this is a bad sign right ?

[young hearth]

I believe so

[dry pike]

I mean, it's not good

but could just be a rare software bug

[modern gull]

I suppose so 😛 Its either drivers being abit poor or other issue not so often drivers to be honest

[dry pike]

The typical thing causing it is people on laptops where the iGPU is being used instead of the Nvidia card.

but this case seems a bit special

[modern gull]

Oh i see, i see.

Ya i'd say so too

[proud trellis]

im hoping its fixed my freezing issue because it said "your pc ran into an error fixing now" and then a %

not sure if thats stopped my issue now or....

[quick locust]

it will bsod if something freezes for longer than the watchdog timer @proud trellis

[proud trellis]

yeah thats what came up

this little bitch

the freezing is really annoying me and i just have no clue on what it is, people say its windows install and others say its hardware

[quick locust]

Because it could be either

Look in event viewer and see if you can specify the issue more

the BSODs are just cause the freezes are longer than the watchdog timer, which will always trigger bsod

[proud trellis]

im now getting this on enlisted

@quick locust is this related to me blue screening ?

now geforce experience is gone

what the fuck

[quick locust]

yeah that's an nvidia issue

could be related to bsod

[proud trellis]

i cba with this anymore

would reinstalling my GPU drivers do anything ?

[quick locust]

Yeah try

use DDU then clean install

[proud trellis]

right so i reinstalled geforce

and my enlisted is working

so idk wtf is going on with my pc but i might reinstall windows one day ngl its just a joke

[molten coral]

I need to do the same

I’ve so much shit on my PC that if I even want to try to organize it will take me days

Probably just better to import the important stuff to the cloud and start over

[proud trellis]

its gonna annoy me having to reinstall everything but in the long run it should be worth it if the freezing stops

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ethereum-miner-32-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-gpus

Insane mining efficiency, makes GPUs look irrelevant

[proud trellis]

so my pc does still freeze afterall

would buy a new montherboard like granty said to see if it is that but im not wasting 50 pound just for it not to be my motherboard and something else

[digital hill]

Damn you realtek

With your crappy optical support

seriously I can't get audio through optical even though I done everything correct

[digital hill]

finally got it to work its called installing custom drivers

[solar kestrel]

just ordered a 3060 ti at msrp from a friend

then i woke up

[weak girder]

Ive had that dream but for a 3080

my friend was giving me a free pc

[lime orchid]

can someone help me please? i am trying to create a account because i bought the EA Play on Steam and downloaded bfv. and its saying

[bitter wadi]

wht

?

[near rune]

Its saying what

[tender horizon]

its saying

[uneven ginkgo]

Question for BF5 players with a 30 series card, what FPS are you getting running max settings without FFR on? And do you run DX11 or DX12? I seem to get better frames but micro stutters every second with DX12 on, making it unenjoyable, but with Medium - High settings I can only achieve around 70-90 frames on DX11?

[weak girder]

run DX11 but it shoulsnt give you negative frames, keeping ffr on is better but thats your choice and your fps might be related to your cpu

whats your cpu?

[uneven ginkgo]

i7 10700K

[weak girder]

oh

[uneven ginkgo]

I normally run DX11, but it's the low frames that bothers me

[weak girder]

dx11 shouldnt gove you low frames

[uneven ginkgo]

I understand 70-90 isn't bad

[weak girder]

check your cpu usage

[uneven ginkgo]

But it's annoying,

Yeah I tried all that nothing is taking it up, it's only BF5 with the issue

[weak girder]

you wouldnt expect that with a 3000's series card

[uneven ginkgo]

Even if I drop the graphics down to High-Medium, it will be around 90 average

Ultra-High, it goes around 70FPS on DX11

on High-Medium settings, Task Manager says BF5 is using around 70% average of my CPU

With DX12 on

But my game stutters non stop

[weak girder]

what resolution?

[uneven ginkgo]

1440p

[weak girder]

what card do you have?

[uneven ginkgo]

3070

[weak girder]

try ffr on

[uneven ginkgo]

Was the exact same with my 2070 Super before this

[weak girder]

idrk tbh

[weak girder]

uhh upgradin from a 2070 super to a 3070 aint rly that worth it lmao

[quick locust]

recent windows version had an issue with games, check if you have it

[uneven ginkgo]

It runs more frames with it on, but the input lag bothers me lmao

[uneven ginkgo]

I've seen a major performance improvement

[weak girder]

you wouldnt

[uneven ginkgo]

Definitely worth it tbh

[weak girder]

not rly but its your choice

[uneven ginkgo]

Every game I've played, I've seen a major improvement with my performance

[weak girder]

the difference in most games is 10-20 fps

[uneven ginkgo]

Eh, I've gotten a bit more then that

Either way, performance is a lot better for me, and I'm happy with it

[supple bane]

its more than that

[quick locust]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/nvidia-staff-suggests-rolling-back-windows-10-update-to-fix-game-issues/

stuttering.issues etc

[uneven ginkgo]

Correct, I've had a great performance increase

[uneven ginkgo]

I'll try that thank you

[quick locust]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-pushes-emergency-fix-for-windows-10-kb5001330-gaming-issues/

[versed burrow]

Hi! I've been having the most peculiar issue when trying to run BFV. I'm seeing massive reductions in CPU and GPU usage only when the game is focused. It runs at a smooth 60 fps in the background, but as soon as I focus the window my GPU usage falls down to <5% and CPU usage <30%. I haven't had this issue in any other game to date, so I feel like maybe someone else here has had similar problems.

My setup is the following:
CPU: i7-6700
GPU: GTX 1060 6GB
RAM: 16GB DDR4

Recording/images of the issue:
https://streamable.com/2mqqnn

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/546328626988056597/835631919675867216/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/546328626988056597/835632159024742420/unknown.png

Thanks in advance for any help!

[shy quail]

Anyone see any issues with this?

[weak girder]

its alright, the cpu could be better tho

for the gpu

[shy quail]

Really?

Like, a 5600X?

[versed burrow]

I mean considering the circumstances it's impressive to find all these components at a reasonable price

[prime jasper]

Can someone recommend me an intel mobo for around $200 that supports 4th gen ssds? (Not planning to overclock)

[quick locust]

Most B560 do and are fine

[uneven ginkgo]

Where abouts are you located? If you're in Australia I can help you find places you can buy a 30 series for a fair price

[shy quail]

I'm not in AU, but I would pay import

[shy quail]

This PC is around 2000eu

[uneven ginkgo]

Oh okay, yeah I'm not sure how it works with Australia to America, as we pay more due to our money difference and tax etc

[versed burrow]

not bad at all

[shy quail]

I'm in France

[uneven ginkgo]

Oh wow, yeah I'm not sure if they'd ship there haha

[shy quail]

Give me the site, I'll have a peek

[weak girder]

would be better yeah

[supple bane]

whats wrong with the 5600x

[shy quail]

Like, I can get a 3070, but it's preorder and backlogged

[supple bane]

also i dont think id pay 2000 eu for those specs

[shy quail]

I replace the 3600x with a 5600x

[versed burrow]

It's what you gotta do if you want these kinds of specs in 2021

[uneven ginkgo]

I paid $1250 for my 3070, but that's a pretty decent price in Australia

[shy quail]

And now it's 2100

[uneven ginkgo]

I'm not sure how the prices are in France, but from our websites it should be around that in AUD

[weak girder]

yeah but consider gpu prices atm

[proud trellis]

doesn’t that case have bad temps ?

the one Adam chose in that list

[supple bane]

yeah, so wait. is my point

[versed burrow]

considering 3070s are going for >1200€ second hand over here in sweden, 2000 for an entire build including a ryzen cpu is far from bad

[shy quail]

There are no prices dude, they arent here

[uneven ginkgo]

Damn, that'd suck

[shy quail]

I quiet case is essential

[versed burrow]

global chip shortage do be hitting

[supple bane]

yeah its not great

[weak girder]

what are your current specs?

[supple bane]

from my experience with it at lesat

[uneven ginkgo]

Walked into my local pc store and they always got 30 series cards

[shy quail]

2600, RX570, 16GB 2666

[versed burrow]

Here in sweden, every GPU newer than the GT 1030 is sold out pretty much everywhere

[uneven ginkgo]

There are Discord groups that will notify you when stock is available of 30 series cards, I don't know what they are but heard about them

[supple bane]

those specs are fine. wait until the semi conductor shortage blows over

[weak girder]

^

[versed burrow]

kind of depressing scrolling through retail websites seeing a big wall of "notify me when this is in stock" buttons

[uneven ginkgo]

I sold my 2070 Super Gigabyte for $700, used that to pay for half of my GPU haha

[quick locust]

same in DK

[opaque saddle]

yeah i dont see spending extra for extra performance

[quick locust]

[opaque saddle]

unless you wanna game at 1440p or ultrawide

[uneven ginkgo]

We got 2070's going for just under $1K here

[versed burrow]

I'm just hoping my pos computer survives for another year or two, I don't have the cash to replace anything right now

[shy quail]

YEha, I'm buying a 27inch moni, so 1440p is a req

[quick locust]

my 2080 ti be golden rn

[opaque saddle]

do you wanna get a 34" ultrawide instead?

[quick locust]

jk

[weak girder]

I want to upgrade to the 3060 or 2060 depending on prices by the end of may

[shy quail]

Why tho

[opaque saddle]

it looks awesome

[versed burrow]

lot of experts saying prices aren't going down in a looooong time

[shy quail]

Lol, good point I guess

[opaque saddle]

so a 34" ultrawide has the same height of 27"

but wider

[supple bane]

ive seen some really good deals on 34" monitors tbf

[uneven ginkgo]

I run a 32" curved monitor, it's awesome, definitely try something 32" or 34" some time, it's great fun

[supple bane]

like 120hz for 300 pounds

[opaque saddle]

yeah you can get a 34" VA 144hz panel for 420AUD

[uneven ginkgo]

Yeah VA panels are still good, IPS is nice but they're pricey

[shy quail]

4" is fucking huge

[versed burrow]

IPS is a must-have for me, can't stand bad colors

[opaque saddle]

nah

[shy quail]

It's the same size as my TV

[opaque saddle]

34" isnt that large

it is 27" but wider

[uneven ginkgo]

It's just a longer screen

Feels nicer to game on

You get used to it

[weak girder]

yeah but you'd need a good gpu

with it

[supple bane]

depends

its not much higher res than 1440p usually

[weak girder]

you not gonna run that 34 inch ultrawide on 108p

[uneven ginkgo]

I ran a R9 380 on my 32" 1440p pretty decently

[weak girder]

or its gonna look like shit

[versed burrow]

widescreen comes with a few caveats too, like programs not quite supporting it or issues with scaling

[shy quail]

That's why I either want a high end 20, or mid 30

[supple bane]

3840x1080 is about 4 million pixels and 2560x1440 is about 3.6 million

so its really not that much more than 1440p

[versed burrow]

Honestly there's no point in building a new PC right now, at least not if you're not willing to spend a lot of money on it

I'd say wait or buy a prebuilt

[shy quail]

I'd rather have 1440p on 16/9

PErsonal pref

[shy quail]

Do you know any SIs in france?

[weak girder]

you have to take ppi into consideration

[versed burrow]

sorry, I'm unaware of any

I don't know the french market

[supple bane]

not for how intensive it is to run you dont

[weak girder]

I mean on how good its gonna look

[supple bane]

oh, i was talking about how intensive it is

because you mentioned needing a good gpu, and my point is its not that much harder than 1440p to run

[shy quail]

I coulkd fuck with an amazon prebuild 0.p

[versed burrow]

I've been looking at some of the newer Omen prebuilts

actually not looking half bad, if you can stand subpar cooling and the occasional nonstandard component

the 25L looking like ~1700€ for a Ryzen 7 + 3070 build

not a bad deal at all

[shy quail]

But they don't sell their own stuff lol

Other than an expensive ass phone number

[versed burrow]

huh?

[shy quail]

Nothing

Modified

I think I'll just get this

And wait

[versed burrow]

let's cross our fingers and hope crypto crashes

[supple bane]

crypto crashing wont fix the semi conductor shortage

[versed burrow]

nope, but more gpus in gamer hands is better than fewer gpus in gamer hands

[supple bane]

this is true

[versed burrow]

let's also hope the water shortage in Taiwan is short-lived

[shy quail]

Crypto is crashing

HAs been for fucking2 days

[versed burrow]

world's really conspiring to make gpus more expensive right now

[supple bane]

but its not just gpus that are in shortage. my dad works at Land Rover and they cant even get their hands on enough chips to put 2 car keys in the deal for a new brought car

pretty much anything with a chip inside is in shortage

[dry pike]

We need all the non geeks to go away from their computers again :p

[versed burrow]

the chips are down everywhere

nobody has them

automotive industry suffering too, as is basically every industry that makes use of silicon chips

[supple bane]

in addition to this, 2 of the JLR plants are stopping production because they cant get enough chips to build the cars

[bitter wadi]

who has an idea of what will the specs be for bf 6

?

[proud trellis]

Battlefield 6 rumored minimum system requirements:
CPU - i7-6700/Ryzen 5 1500X or better
RAM - 16GB
GPU - Nvidia: GTX 780/GTX 970 or better
AMD: R9 380/RX 470 or better
Storage space: 70GB

Recommended system requirements:
CPU - i7-8700/Ryzen 5 3600 or better
RAM - 16GB
GPU - Nvidia: GTX 1080/RTX 2060 or better
AMD: Vega 56/RX 5600XT or better
Storage space: 70GB

this is what is rumoured.. but not sure if its true

[torn plume]

Rumored where? From who?

[proud trellis]

idfk

was posted by someone else in here

but i just CaP it for him

[quick locust]

They'll tell eventually

[prime jasper]

can anyone help me out with battlefield 3? i cant quickmatch, it says loading but i dont load in, win 10 chrome

[near rune]

1. dont use quickplay use the server browser

2. dont use chrome