technology

[opaque saddle]

hey

[solar kestrel]

I’ve never really understood the hate on loud fans

I mean I see how it’s annoying

But like I don’t mind it

[opaque saddle]

get a new 3rd party cooler

[solar kestrel]

I mean not like loud loud fan

[opaque saddle]

the intel stock fan is getting worse and worse over the years

[solar kestrel]

Just a fan thats loud enough where I can’t here it with my headphones on

I will get a new one

At some point

[opaque saddle]

you can get a really good one for 30 bucks

[solar kestrel]

Ik

A coole master

[opaque saddle]

i got the 212

[proud trellis]

dont arctic do decent stock coolers for not that bad of a price ?

[solar kestrel]

I actually bought a cooler master then retuned it cause my cpu came with a cooler

Now I feel stupid kek

[storm osprey]

@lavish lion https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4nB3QD

[lavish lion]

cl14 is better

for intel

[opaque saddle]

so a 3rd party cooler works with large fins (with more surface areas) works. but you have to look which one suits you the best

from youtube videos

[storm osprey]

sure, but not for the price increase

youre talking what? 5fps difference?

[solar kestrel]

Yike

That’s nothing

[storm osprey]

video im watching now using a 9700k is rarely even showing a 5fps difference

[solar kestrel]

[storm osprey]

i wouldnt spend... errrr 40 bucks more for that...

save 40 from the ram, 30 from storage, 20 from psu, now you have 90 bucks to get a 3070 instead of a 3060 ti

[digital hill]

I have spoke to logitech about my wheel

they state they will get me an approved replacement if I hand them a receipt which will take a while

So finally I can re-experience actual 900 degrees and not 840 degrees

[opaque saddle]

it reminded me 4770 vs 6700

[digital hill]

PSU never save from

[opaque saddle]

a really good psu that has 5 to 10 years warranty is worth getting

[digital hill]

Yeah

Might upgrade my psu to seasonic later

750w

[opaque saddle]

at least you don't have to pay for your next psu and it still last for 2 or 3 builds

[digital hill]

My psu is 500w 80+ white

I want to get 3070 - 3060

[opaque saddle]

i usually do 80% TDP load

maybe when you can finally get a 3060/3070, the enhanced version has been released

[digital hill]

decent or no?

[storm osprey]

psu tier list that ish

seasonics "gm" lineup is b tier

[digital hill]

decent or no for 3060 or 3070?

[solar kestrel]

Nyphon

You should make personal tier lists

[storm osprey]

frick that

[solar kestrel]

For different parts of a build

Could be cool

[digital hill]

simple list for psu diablotek no no

[storm osprey]

for 3060/3070 yea a 750w seasonic psu will be great

[solar kestrel]

And Maby they could get pinned for recommended parts from@our trusted bald guy

Like tier list on tier list maker

[storm osprey]

@digital hill hmmm im confused, is that a focus gold or a GM psu? its the one i picked as well, but i was under the impression it was a focus gold, which is A tier

[opaque saddle]

remember to get yourself a surge protection powerboard

[digital hill]

oh I can steal one

from the main living room

[opaque saddle]

brand new

better to get yourself one

[digital hill]

alright

[solar kestrel]

[opaque saddle]

i went to the hardware store, and one of them was like 8USD

[solar kestrel]

Just got irl modded

[opaque saddle]

but that would potentially saved your pc if there is a lightning storm

[solar kestrel]

I need to get a surge protector

I keep forgetting

[opaque saddle]

what happened before was, my housemate bought himself a new, $1500 pc and we got hit by a lighting storm

[solar kestrel]

oh no

[opaque saddle]

my desktop is saved and his didn't survive

[solar kestrel]

Oh no

[digital hill]

looks decent

[opaque saddle]

i usually replace it every 3 years

[digital hill]

Its 4 dollars more but on the ltt list its at the tier a

might be better to get this one rather than seasonic

[storm osprey]

i THINK the seasonic is this

[digital hill]

oh

but this one fully modular so hmmm

[opaque saddle]

isn't that seasonic is the manufacturer for OEM stuff

[storm osprey]

which is a tier

[digital hill]

tier a

[storm osprey]

though idk how to tell is a psu was pre 2018 production..

[opaque saddle]

code

it is hard to tell

[digital hill]

the list does state a-gf is tier a so I dunno

most likely might get it if its recommend for tier a

10 years warranty

rather then 7

[storm osprey]

10 year warranty on psu is niceeee

my evga psu has a 10 year warranty, ive already had it replaced for a noisy fan after 6 years

[digital hill]

I ordered my msi psu

[prime jasper]

Can someone give me their ram sticks and a bad graphics card they don’t need

I won’t pay u, but maybe u can help me

[weak girder]

the only other gpu I have is an hd 6950 kek

[prime jasper]

Is that good or bad

[solar kestrel]

[weak girder]

it was pretty good in 2010 but severely outdated

[prime jasper]

Well

It could come in handy with my outdated pc

Considering my graphics card and ram sticks were stolen

[quick locust]

such a gap lol

[opaque saddle]

i think if your 2080ti built ran inside my old bedroom in summer, it will rise up to 121C at the same frequency

[quick locust]

probably

still not as loud as my reference v64 though

[opaque saddle]

not good for the card i afraid

the card per se will bent

[quick locust]

well repasting it did nothing

but at least it's still stable enough and can run 1880-1915 MHz

So fine enough

Not sure how nvidia's hot spot has influence

[opaque saddle]

i wanna see if the card can be modified with larger fins and larger fans

[quick locust]

https://www.techpowerup.com/258228/110-c-hotspot-temps-expected-and-within-spec-amd-on-rx-5700-series-thermals well I guess it's just like an AMD card

[opaque saddle]

you forgot asus's

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyGFKCrnPM4&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed

hm

[quick locust]

this board is nice

[dry pike]

I just want my motherboard black. The blacker the better. That's why I have a X570 Unify. https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/x570-unify-performance-740x416.jpg

[modern gull]

This makes orange light i think. It does on my motherboard. Let me see if i find the image.

There https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422598689928773632/829729067447091220/2n828m.png

[solar kestrel]

You should get custom cables for your gpu

Would look hot nice

[modern gull]

Maybe it could look better. But i am happy now to be honest. I care more about performance than looks

[molten coral]

Pretty sure you can turn the light off if you want though

[modern gull]

Yep i can but decided to keep it on actually. Would be cool if i could change the color of it.

[dry pike]

The X570 Unify doesn't have RGB.

Another reason i like it. Motherboard RGB software is crap.

[modern gull]

Dont look like it. Looks more like you get same orange light

[dry pike]

No orange either.

[solar kestrel]

Ngl

[modern gull]

Are you sure? You could turn it of atleast. But it looks like you have the same light i do

[solar kestrel]

Wait carbonic what’s your build look like

[dry pike]

Took at picture at some point, lemme check

this is the non-window part of it

[solar kestrel]

A custom case

Ur whole suptuo looks fire I can not lie

[modern gull]

Ooooooouuuuuu

[solar kestrel]

Mans is living

[modern gull]

[solar kestrel]

Wait @dry pike do you stream ?

Only wondering cause I thought I saw a stream deck wich is prettty nifty

[dry pike]

I did and still can if I'd like to. Mostly just newly released games where people can ask stuff though.

[solar kestrel]

Oh ok

[dry pike]

Stream Deck is handy always though, controls the lights in the room, shows CPU/GPU usage and has a bunch of macros

[solar kestrel]

Oh that’s even niftier

[dry pike]

Don't have a recent desk and interior picture. Might have to remedy that.

[quick locust]

here's mine

[solar kestrel]

Sheeeesh

[quick locust]

I wish there was more coloured motherboards

Instead of just black with rgb or all white

[dry pike]

Looks nice, are those drive bays empty?

[quick locust]

The vertical 3.5 ones no, they are all used

But the 5.25 only has one used

[solar kestrel]

I’m fine when klikard is around but when tamkill starts having a conversation I enter the realm of confusion and wtf does that mean

[quick locust]

😛

[dry pike]

I was able to remove all my drive bays and mount my hdds vertically behind the motherboard, really improved the airflow and still have plenty of space.

[quick locust]

Nice

I barely have space behind mobo, two molex is enough to make the side panel bulge a bit

[dry pike]

these things cannot die quickly enough https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Amp_and_Molex_Connectors.jpg

[quick locust]

😛

The front case LED uses them, and something else

You have a full tower?

[solar kestrel]

Holy crap I just have 1 drive and it a hard drive

[quick locust]

HDD as boot drive?

https://tenor.com/16ld.gif

[solar kestrel]

Hdd as my only drive

Havnt gotten an ssd yet

If I wanted to could I switch my windows to an ssd

[dry pike]

have to be away for a little while, will see if I can snap those pics after

[solar kestrel]

See yah

And congrats on mod trainee

[quick locust]

256 GiB to 512 GiB ssds have gotten pretty cheap

[solar kestrel]

yah ik

i’m trying to get a new gpu firestone

cause i use loading screens as my 5 minute break in between games to go make dinner

[quick locust]

lol

[dry pike]

ty ty 🙂

computer internals

setup

[sour tinsel]

just bought a 3070 its sooo nice

165hz on every game ive touched

what keyboard is that? @dry pike

[proud trellis]

looks like a corsair keyboard

[dry pike]

If it's a 165hz monitor it always run at 165hz, the gfx card is what gives you the FPS to utilize those hz

[sour tinsel]

i have a 165hz monitor

[solar kestrel]

your pc is so hot nice

what gpu is that?

[sour tinsel]

im looking into a 240

for games like valorant

i get 300 on ultra on competitive games

[solar kestrel]

yup

3070 is a very good care

card

[proud trellis]

300 fps on valorant ?

[solar kestrel]

the real question is how many do you get in minecraft with shaders on

you should get more then 300 fps i feel like

[sour tinsel]

yeah

@proud trellis

[solar kestrel]

i get like 60 on medium settings

[sour tinsel]

i capped it

no reason for 300

[dry pike]

The keyboard is a Corsair K95 RGB Platinum, I have a 1080ti - looking to buy a 3080 / 3080ti / 4080 whatever becomes availible first and not stupid 2000 euro prices

[solar kestrel]

oh

[sour tinsel]

3080 was my go to i came from console

[solar kestrel]

lol i feel that

i got a gt 640

[sour tinsel]

i couldnt find a 3080

[solar kestrel]

my cousin gave it to me as a place holder

[sour tinsel]

so i settled

i paid 2000$ cdn 3070 1tb ssd r7 3700x

[solar kestrel]

i’m trying to get my grubby little hands on a 3060

[sour tinsel]

3060 at msrp is a steal

[solar kestrel]

yup

[sour tinsel]

good luck finding it though lol

[dry pike]

3060 doesn't make much sense for me with a 1080ti, it's a good card though

[solar kestrel]

yea

[sour tinsel]

1080 ti is a monster

[solar kestrel]

a 3060 makes sense for me tho

[sour tinsel]

still holds up till today

[solar kestrel]

it is

1070 ti isn’t that bad either

[proud trellis]

dont u need to get a new PSU to then ?

[solar kestrel]

solid card

yes

[sour tinsel]

i tried cold war with a 3070 game is optimized like a pile of shit

[solar kestrel]

but i can deal with that imma sell the one i have now

[proud trellis]

CW is so dead

[sour tinsel]

i get 180 on low which for how bad that game looks it shouldnt be getting anything less then 240 on a 3070 at low

[dry pike]

If I could get a 3080 at MSRP I could sell my 1080ti and get most of the money covered :p

[solar kestrel]

i mean i’m right here

[sour tinsel]

msrp 3080 is the dream

[quick locust]

for gamers

[quick locust]

not much reason to cap it

[supple bane]

I can kinnddaaaa understand that, I assume it has more optimised algorithms to not eat up as much resources and thus get more gigashits from your hardware

[orchid folio]

lmao

what is next? water for gamers?

[quick locust]

they advertise it as ddos prevention etc

[quick locust]

Already a thing I think

[orchid folio]

bruh

I give up

[quick locust]

Why are dell xps and surface so stupidly overpriced

[orchid folio]

they cost like 2k dont they?

[quick locust]

ye

for a min spec i5 one

[orchid folio]

wow

Isn't that a dell thing?

[quick locust]

yes

as I saif

well surface is microsoft

but overpriced as well

[dry pike]

Surface is apple equivalent

in the microsoft world

the high prices are a part of its value

then you can show people you can afford to pay too much

[quick locust]

lol

[latent light]

https://www.servethehome.com/asus-rs720a-e11-rs24u-review-amd-epyc-7763-and-nvidia-a100-in-2u/2/

[vernal spire]

Any reason for a new laptop to be throttling so much?

fine for a short amount of time then it starts to stutter every few seconds

At least I think its throttling not sure

[near rune]

Is it a powerful laptop?

[vernal spire]

it's solid, I run the games on 50 FPS until it starts

And then it fluctuates between 50 and like extremely low FPS values

[near rune]

50fps isnt alot

[vernal spire]

I can run all the games I play on it

the requirements are good enough

also something interesting

It only does that when Turbo is on

3.6GHz

on 1.0GHz it runs overall worse but the FPS is stable at least

[near rune]

Does it have an external gpu

[vernal spire]

nope, it's a i5 with a MX230

1035G1

8GB of Ram

I dont run anything heavy on it

It's all games it should be able to run I suppose

brand new

[near rune]

Brand new doesn't mean its fast

What game are you playing

[solar kestrel]

8gb of ram

bump that shit to 16

[near rune]

Won't really make a difference if its already bad

[solar kestrel]

true

[supple bane]

he has got bigger problems i think lol

[near rune]

Mx230 isnt a powerful gpu

The only issue im thinking is prob a power issue

The turbo eats power from the gpu

But idk

Maybe lower the graphics

And resolution

For more fps

[vernal spire]

I tried all that but as soon as the Turbo kicks in it just starts fluctuating and throttling

literally even in like Minecraft

I have 100 FPS doesn't matter

[near rune]

Have you had task manager open

While playing

[vernal spire]

sec

I will see what it says

task manager

I just don't get why it's not able to run something that I can run on my phone practically

without throttling

and jumping

and it's only on turbo, so i really doubt it's the hardware being inadequate

[near rune]

Have you updated everything

[vernal spire]

yep

[near rune]

Have you tried to google

[vernal spire]

yes

all the generic throttling solutions

with ThrottleStop and whatnot

None worked

[near rune]

Ive never had this issue so really hard to help

[vernal spire]

Okay the CPU is on around 80%

GPU around 80%

[near rune]

I used to use alot of slow pcs and laptops but had nothing like this

And nothing is hitting 100%?

[vernal spire]

I've had this issue before on old laptops

nope

But that issue was caused by dust and age

This is quite literally brand new

It's probably because it's around 80%

so the software is making it throttle because of the temperature and battery usage

even if it's not actually hot

trying to disable it though did nothing which is weird

maybe it's in the BIOS

[near rune]

The turbo?

[vernal spire]

the throttling

[near rune]

I think its in the bios

[vernal spire]

I will take a look at the BIOS right now

might be hard coded into the BIOS version

[near rune]

It should say like intel turbo boost technology

On or off

[vernal spire]

and I think the issue is definitely the throttling because of CPU usage

When it's running at around 1GHz it's 30% usage

when it's turbo and 3.6GHz it runs at 80% and stutters

I use ThrottleStop to automatically disable turbo and enable it

Okay im gonna take a look at the BIOS power management section

Intel Speed Shift technology - this allows the operating system to select the appropriate processor performance automatically

seems a bit suspicious

might disable it

[near rune]

never heard of that

[vernal spire]

Me neither

basically just HWP

From what I'm seeing here it apparently adjusts for battery usage and optimal performance

and that can possibly be the issue

Well I disabled it and I'm gonna boot it now

[vernal spire]

I've read that this is possibly a BIOS bug so I'm updating

[vernal spire]

didn't work

[solar kestrel]

[modern gull]

Is shuffle like a newegg subscription?

[solar kestrel]

not sure

[modern gull]

Was thinking p2w to buy

[supple bane]

Congrats on mod klikard

[modern gull]

Thanks, but trainee We will see if i perform well enough to become a mod tho.

[storm osprey]

shuffle is literally a raffle

you put your name in saying you want to buy and people are chosen at random to be able to purchase

[modern gull]

Ah i see makes sense

[gaunt pecan]

Shuffle is a drawing. You win the drawing you can buy 1 of that limited stock. If someone does not buy one thr next person up gets the chance.

And so on

[deft crow]

Try going to notebookcheck and at the end put your graphic card name

And just check over and make sure everything is fine

It will tell you alot like what it should clock

Make sure your driver is working fine

And is updated

Reset your laptop

Try changing frame rate settings

[proud trellis]

so i think i have 2 windows installs on my pc, but there is a bunch of files from 2016 which im very confused about

anyone know if its safe to just remove them or ?

[digital hill]

seems like its not c:

not C: mean its removable

[proud trellis]

you 100% sure ? i dont want to remove it and then have my pc broke 😆

[digital hill]

You can always have a backup

make a windows installer usb

That way incase you f it up then you can always repair it

[proud trellis]

yeah

i think i do have windows on a USB from ages ago when i reinstalled windows

[digital hill]

Make a new one

[proud trellis]

does having 2 windows installs mess up your pc tho ?

[digital hill]

You don't want to go through 4-5 years of updates

@proud trellis Not really

[proud trellis]

oh

[digital hill]

most likely that was meant for updates

[proud trellis]

oh

but there are files there from 2013 also

[digital hill]

Erase it

[proud trellis]

im scared to delete them incase i break something 😆

shall i just delete the whole folder ?

[proud trellis]

the program files, system and system64 folders ^

[digital hill]

Just delete the whole folder

[proud trellis]

i will do it now

[digital hill]

windows update does that

[proud trellis]

done

they are all gone 😆

[digital hill]

reboot to test

jesus christ

seagate is the first to ship out 3 zettabyte of actual hdd's

[latent light]

A Digitimes report now confirms the recent statement of South Korean media, The Elec. The report claims that Apple will use LTPO screen technology in the iPhone 13 series. The energy efficiency of LTPO helps keep the iPhone run at a high refresh rate of 120Hz, without affecting battery life too much.

[digital hill]

whats ltpo screen technology

[opaque saddle]

they have adopted the tech into apple watch S5

[digital hill]

Ah

Pretty cool

[lofty light]

Series 5? So it's been there a while then

[weak girder]

budget setup

[opaque saddle]

not even a budget setup

you can use an ipad pro as a monitor with the 120hz display

[ashen ether]

i have a 1650 super and ryzen 3 3100

should i hardware accelerate discord

[quick locust]

sure why not

[marsh gull]

lol exact same for me

[ashen ether]

@marsh gull just curious how much fps do you get in BFV and in what setting?

[marsh gull]

ultra: 50-60fps high: 60-70 fps medium: 60-80fps low: 70-90fps

[marsh gull]

I run it in high-medium

[ashen ether]

is that average?

[marsh gull]

yeah

[ashen ether]

aight

i was paranoid lol

i also get 70-90 fps i play on all low

[marsh gull]

dont wottu you'll run it fine if you enouph ram

[ashen ether]

but sometimes it spikes up to 120

[marsh gull]

medium is better

[ashen ether]

i have 16gb 3200

[marsh gull]

i know

[ashen ether]

nah

[marsh gull]

good

[ashen ether]

bfv is visually stunning even on the lowest setting

frames > visuals

for me atleast

[marsh gull]

i know, its a good looking game in general

[quick locust]

wonder how bf6 runs

hopefully better dxr/dlss implentation

[marsh gull]

I hope its fun and takes the positive aspects from all previous bf games to make it awesome

[tender horizon]

I FIXED MY CONTROLLER DRIFT

holy fuck i feel like an expert mechanic

all i did was slam my right analog stick

3 times did the charm

[odd goblet]

Typically I use alcohol to fix problems with drift

[dry pike]

In IT we call that "percussive maintenance".

[tender horizon]

heh

[tender horizon]

I've tried everything spanning from compressed air, blowing into it and physically opening it an cleaning it

alcohol too*

[patent zephyr]

Hi

[supple bane]

something tells me that this is going to be complete horse shit. gonna watch it anyway tho cuz i have no life

[opaque saddle]

i felt like LTT's videos are click baits these days

[serene orchid]

They always were. Plus the sponsors.

[opaque saddle]

i mean it is getting worse these days

[supple bane]

im not even going to watch the rest of the video. basically its NVIDIA response to smart access memory and in most cases in reduces performance and in the rest of the cases it only improves by like 2%

so no, mr sebastian, you cannot download a faster gpu. on ya bike son

[opaque saddle]

i used to watch LTT videos but it gets even more and more annoying these days

it went off

[quick locust]

I've had resizable bar for a while

[supple bane]

but did you DoWn LoAd A fAsTeR gPu?

[sharp pollen]

you have to download more RAM first

[dry pike]

GTA V seems like a crappy title to test Resizable BAR. The benchmarks I've seen for GFX intensive games like BF there's generally a performance increase.

[supple bane]

Well that completely contradicts what those benchmarks say

the biggest gain in perforamance was 18% but that was a complete outlier, it was the only one that did that and most all other games saw either exact same performance or slightly reduced

[dry pike]

I've usually seen benches like this one for GFX heavy DX12 games. Not GTA V which is CPU bound and therefore silly to test in. But guess I should see the LTT video to see what you are talking about.

[supple bane]

it basically makes no difference in most games as i said. and a few games its more and a few its less

besides my argument never was resizable bar is a bad thing. it was about ltts clickbait lol

its a free improvement in certain games which the user can enable or disable at will. its a work in progress. my point is that ltt worded that as "download a faster gpu" which is textbook clickbait

because it doesnt make much of a difference at all

[dry pike]

Looking at the LTT video Re-sizable bar seems like a win in almost all graphics card intensive games (the games that actually needs more performance). Adding CS:GO and GTA V in those benchmarks are just silly, if they had added something like Metro and BFV instead the average FPS gain would have been bigger.
I don't agree that it "basically makes no difference". Resizable BAR seems like a complete WIN unless you only play old titles.

[supple bane]

youre not reading my message are you

my point was never resizable bar was badddddddd

its ltt is click bait

[dry pike]

Yet you still mentioned "it basically makes no difference in most games as i said" which I don't agree with. I never mentioned LTTs clickbait title which is obviously clickbait.

[supple bane]

how can you not agree with it lol. in that video that average improvement was 2%, how is that not basically no different

and you are taking my point out of context. RB is a free addition, and a work in progress.

so i believe it has promise but needs work, but you certainly cant "download a faster gpu"

[dry pike]

It's average is 2% for LTT because they test against useless titles. Pick relevant titles and it's more. Especially for 1% lows which can be quite the noticeable improvement.

[supple bane]

well then they would be hand picking titles to show the best improvement at that point lol

they show a range of titles from easy to run like csgo, and super intensive like fs2020. and popular games like gta

[dry pike]

I don't care if I loose 2% in CS:GO if I gain 9% in Battlefield V.

[supple bane]

besides. i still fall back to my original statement. RB is a free addition that needs work. it will improve and based on that i couldnt care if its good or not. but as it stands it is false to say you can get a faster gpu by downloading the new driver because, well, you cant

but eventually you will. once it matures

my point was to never say RB was bad, it was to say LTT is using too much clickbait

[dry pike]

I dislike picking irrelevant titles more than the clickbait title tbh

[supple bane]

why are the titles irrelevant tho?

[proud trellis]

so in the past hour my pc has froze 4 times, if anyone knows what can cause this shit machine to freeze can you please tag me because its such bullshit

[dry pike]

step 1, figure out why it freezes

[supple bane]

good luck with that

ive already said, its faulty hardware 🤷‍♂️

it has to be

[proud trellis]

something is faulty but idk what

[supple bane]

well you are the only one who can find that out besides shipping the pc to someone

you have a spare pc right? time to start swapping parts and find what fixes it

[proud trellis]

it only started freezing when it came back from being repaired tho

i dont have a spair pc anymore

[dry pike]

Take CS:GO, if you have hardware that supports Resizable BAR you probably run it at 250+FPS. Loosing 1-2% performance is irrelevant. Lets say you run BFV 1440P at 100FPS, a 9% performance increase to 1% lows and average FPS is huuuuge.

[supple bane]

so again, thats hand picking titles that are good for RB 🤷‍♂️

he has chose a range of titles that are popular and good for benchmarking

you cant just say "oh well that shows bad results, thus is unfair and should be removed"

i believe tomb raider showed an 18% improvement, thats huge considering you would do well to run that game at 60 fps for most people. so as i said the games chosen were perfectly fine

[dry pike]

I'm not hand picking. I'm just discarding the titles where small performance dips or increases don't matter. Tomb Raider was a fine pick.

[supple bane]

k

[proud trellis]

could a bad windows install be the issue of the freezing ? it would kinda make sense because the freezing only happened when it came back from being repaired and they reinstalled windows before sending it back

[fickle mauve]

Sup, I've gotten this input lag of some sort out of nowhere. A couple of days ago it was fine and now it's like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ2uou-91Wc

Anyone that knows a fix?

[sour tinsel]

anything i can do to increase bf5 perfomance

[silk quarry]

turn down antiscopic filtering

[solar kestrel]

Im being cyber bullied twee said my gpu is like a floppy disk

hes not wrong tho

[patent zephyr]

Bllitzo

Oops

[latent light]

Samsung Odyssey G9 monitor being refreshed this year with VESA DisplayHDR2000 support

[fallen harbor]

one of my fans is doing a lot of noise and it doesn't have a hole where i can pour lubricant below its stamp, am i supposed to disassemble it or what

[solar kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827924715971674192/830841066197352518/video0-31-4.mp4

@proud trellis

[supple bane]

I was horrified when I watched that vid. So glad it was a fake card

Hence the gently clatter and not nuclear war head explosion when it hit the ground

[deft crow]

thats horrifying i hope the ground is okay

[proud trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[solar kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[deft crow]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-cat-cpr-funny-animals-cute-revive-gif-13712625

[digital hill]

Oh no not the one few stocks of the rtx card

[solar kestrel]

[orchid folio]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[ancient ridge]

omg getting random black screen

s

[dry pike]

F

[viscid lion]

my heart sunk.

[fickle quarry]

We all know that GPU was not a test/dummy one

[solar kestrel]

yup

could have used that

tired of my crap GT 640

[tender horizon]

tired of your floppy disk gpu

[solar kestrel]

yes

[deft crow]

Sus

[pseudo adder]

Gt1030 here

ಥ‿ಥ

[serene orchid]

Intel HD Graphics here

[supple bane]

you play bf on integrated graphics ?!

[serene orchid]

No, ofcourse not.

I have a different pc for that, but mainly use the intel graphics one.

[supple bane]

hmm. why tho?

laptop or something?

[serene orchid]

I like to keep my work and gaming separate. To avoid distractions.

Yeah, intel graphics one is the laptop.

[supple bane]

thats fair enough i guess

[opaque saddle]

i usually disable dedicated graphics on my laptop

so it keeps at lower temp

[serene orchid]

What graphics card does it have?

[opaque saddle]

Radeon Pro 555X

[serene orchid]

Never heard of that one. What's its Nvidia equivalent?

[opaque saddle]

between 1030 and 1050?

[supple bane]

random but. more vram usage than ram usage

[weak girder]

my imac has that and I think it runs closer to a 1050 but that could differ because of the macbook

[solar kestrel]

thats mee

just relized how late of a ping that was

[serene orchid]

All good.

[solar kestrel]

im basically running intel hd graphics

with my GT 640

[supple bane]

what cpu do you have again?

[solar kestrel]

i-5

[supple bane]

if its a newer intel chip maybe the onboard gpu is actually better

[solar kestrel]

10400f

[supple bane]

never mind

[solar kestrel]

so no intel hd

ive heard i should be ablke to get a 3060

what other nice cards could i pair with

[supple bane]

10400f would go nice with pretty much anything

[opaque saddle]

the iGPU is used for display

not for gaming

even if you got an iGPU, it will be useless anyway since it is a desktop

However, you will be using your Nvidia for gaming

[supple bane]

yes but made for gaming or not. it might offer better performance than the weak sauce gpu he has.

besides his cpu doesnt have an igpu

[storm osprey]

10400 is a mid tier cpu, i would say up to 3070 makes sense

while not inherently bad, pairing a 10400 and something like a 3080 just seems unbalanced

[opaque saddle]

i thought it is similar

i suggested him to get a 3060

coz he is a middle/high school student and unlikely be able to afford for more expensive gpu

[solar kestrel]

yup

basically

[opaque saddle]

either 3060 or 3060ti will be nice to have

[solar kestrel]

but a 3060 would have me set for a while

or a ti yea

just depends on wich i can get for cheaper let alone in stock

[opaque saddle]

looking forward to see if minecraft java has offical rtx supports

[solar kestrel]

i mean i know the 3060 will be cheaper

[storm osprey]

with msrp 3060 ti existing i would go for that

"existing"

[opaque saddle]

if msrp is a thing

[solar kestrel]

[opaque saddle]

the companies can set the msrp to as low as possible

but the price tag from microcenter will be different from msrp

[storm osprey]

you can get a 3060 ti FE for 400

[solar kestrel]

i dont have a microcenter near me

theres one like 5 hours away

[storm osprey]

considering the cheapest 3060 ive seen is 380 i would easily go for the ti

[solar kestrel]

7*

[solar kestrel]

yea

worth peding that extra like 30 bucks

[storm osprey]

But ThE VrAM

[digital hill]

Well I ordered a usb handbrake on amazon

[solar kestrel]

[digital hill]

Which one isn't out of stock.

[solar kestrel]

none

[opaque saddle]

i bought this case and carried it all the way through home with my e scooter

[solar kestrel]

that would be funny to see

[opaque saddle]

29.7 USD

[solar kestrel]

just a grown man driving a scooter while carrying a case

[opaque saddle]

i know. i was riding at 25km/h

[storm osprey]

hot damn thats cheap

[digital hill]

thats a cheap ass case

for the price

[opaque saddle]

yeah

[digital hill]

tampered glass?

[opaque saddle]

yes

[solar kestrel]

loigic 100

[opaque saddle]

mid tower atx

[digital hill]

Well my usb handbrake, psu and power surge protector is coming today

[opaque saddle]

cool

[digital hill]

Gotta get that realism with handbraking

[latent light]

What game

[supple bane]

dirt rally 2.0

[digital hill]

Ah

[opaque saddle]

i bought a cooler master 550w bronze for my 2nd desktop

coz it is a cheap one

34USD

[digital hill]

I bought a msi psu 750w 80+ gold for 109 dollars

it was on sale

[opaque saddle]

so 58 USD for those 2 things

tax excluded

[opaque saddle]

so i was carrying 30kg of the stuff at my back, like 21kg on my left shoulder and a giant case on my right arm

[solar kestrel]

[opaque saddle]

almost got hit by a car

coz my e scooter went out of control

[supple bane]

how did you ride a scooter doing that?!

[digital hill]

oof

[supple bane]

thats impressive tbh

[solar kestrel]

derek is a legend

dont doubt him

[storm osprey]

no drivers license?

[opaque saddle]

e scooter

not scooter

i don't need a rego for that

[supple bane]

idk why you would need a drivers licence for a scooter anyway?

[opaque saddle]

oh

i dont drive

i dont have a car

so it takes less time for me to walk to uni than driving

i don't usually go out much coz i no longer have to. so i don't need a car

[storm osprey]

a good gaming xl mouse pad for 10 bucks?!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N396YXC/ref=twister_B07N38ZF6R?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[solar kestrel]

i got mine for 15

and my accuracy

so nice

[opaque saddle]

i got my mousepad for 2 USD

80x30cm i think

[solar kestrel]

[storm osprey]

must resist buying more mousepads

[deft crow]

Did they state how many studios are working on battlefield 6?

[latent light]

Nvidia GTC is today, if they're gonna announce a 3080Ti or 3070Ti, this would be the right event to do it

[latent light]

3 studios

[deft crow]

Its gonna be battlefield 4 and 3 combined right?

[latent light]

I even got rumored BF6 spec requirements

Battlefield 6 rumored minimum system requirements:
CPU - i7-6700/Ryzen 5 1500X or better
RAM - 16GB
GPU - Nvidia: GTX 780/GTX 970 or better
AMD: R9 380/RX 470 or better
Storage space: 70GB

Recommended system requirements:
CPU - i7-8700/Ryzen 5 3600 or better
RAM - 16GB
GPU - Nvidia: GTX 1080/RTX 2060 or better
AMD: Vega 56/RX 5600XT or better
Storage space: 70GB

[deft crow]

Hopefully it runs smoothly on my 2080 super

[proud trellis]

yeah fuck that then

i wont be running that shit

[latent light]

6 core and 4-core + 8-thread CPUs gonna be the new bare minimum

[lofty light]

I mean for BF that's been the case for a while

Trying to play on a non-hyperthreaded 4 core is hell

[supple bane]

wut.. you basically meet recommended spec

you smash minimum

[proud trellis]

at 1440p tho

surley i would have to play low

to be able to play it

[supple bane]

my cpu is really lacking for bfv. so its not going to keep up at all for bf6

[latent light]

BFV recommended GPU is GTX 1060 6GB, meanwhile RTX 2060 for BF6

That's a big difference

[proud trellis]

thats a whole series above ?

wtf

[supple bane]

if i can hold 60 fps i guess ill be happy

but based on the performance i get in this game. i dont think that will be happening

[proud trellis]

im just gonna wait till people do benchmarks on the game when its out

[supple bane]

im going to pre order it

[deft crow]

I legit need to buy a better monitor literally behind the game i only have 144

Its good but people have 200 or more

[supple bane]

i never reccomend going above 144 hz

with every increase in refresh rate, the benefits get smaller and smaller

to see this, do 1000 divided by any refresh rate, that will give you the frame time

you will see how going from 144 to 165hz is a small improvement, then to 240 is even smaller and 360hz is basically no different

[latent light]

You really don't need more than 144hz, you're just going to have to buy the most high-end CPU and GPU to meet the framerates that 240Hz achieves

Unless you're only playing Esports games

[supple bane]

even then, the benefit is dubious at best

for the average joe its certainly not worth shelling out for

[latent light]

The RTX 3080 can barely do 144 fps in 1080p on the most recent Assassin's Creed at max settings, which is crazy for a GPU aimed at 4K gaming

Just imagine later this year or next year when true next gen games come out

Anything beyond 120/144hz is really only for Esports

[coarse nimbus]

Imagine a world where assassin's Creed is actually optimized

[quick locust]

AC runs awful

Even console versions have drops at times

[deft crow]

I mean i have good cpu its the i7 ten gen or some shit

[storm osprey]

... is there some context for that comment?

[deft crow]

Ye

[deft crow]

I was talking to grim

[fallen harbor]

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-914229906-fuente-500w-evga-white-80-100-w2-0500-80-plus-oferta-_JM?searchVariation=80391048585#searchVariation=80391048585&position=2&type=item&tracking_id=4afae827-9945-4aea-af29-2675486fa28f

anybody knows what this exactly is?

what does the w2 stand for

[storm osprey]

seems like the model?

w in reference to its while rating, and revision 2 of sorts?

assuming evgas gold lineup of gpus and how they are up to g5

[fallen harbor]

so this is an older model?

[storm osprey]

if i had to guess according to the G line, yea

[fallen harbor]

ic

ty

btw i almost fucking died today at the office

i forgot i had plugged a psu, and it was all open

and i grabbed it by the transistors part shit

and i exploded

the computer fucking died

and id have probably died too if it wasnt for the security thing that shuts everything down in the entire building

[quick locust]

bruh

[near rune]

Getting a shock ain't funny

I accidentally touched a broken extension cord and shaked

[quick locust]

good thing you have hpfi relay

[near rune]

And felt like my heart had skipped a beat

[quick locust]

a prisoner was spared from electric chair once but died when he was repairing his crt tv since he got electrocuted

I think iMacs have exposed psu as well?

I don't remember

[sharp pollen]

I seen someone get blown backwards from a CRT before. It was my tech school teacher.

The guy told us every time where not to touch things. He liked to throw back a 6-pack at lunch and would get a little careless.

It didn't kill him, but it threw him against a wall.

[digital hill]

I own that 500w 80+

still using it in my midrange pc

bought it 2 years ago I think

[violet plank]

dunno what the w2 stands for,newer revision,but technically identical,only difference is the cable set included,1 is black the other (w1) is that red/yellow old style

[fallen harbor]

oic

ty

[storm osprey]

yooo wtf is isuni

[supple bane]

isuni

[violet plank]

sus af! 😛

[supple bane]

@storm osprey arctic p12 based?

i dont get it?

[storm osprey]

i dont get the use of based

so i just made that up

[supple bane]

how can you not get the use of based?

"based on this evidence"

erm.

"based on the fact that"

[quick locust]

arctic fans are mostly decent

[supple bane]

dont get nyphon started on his p12 shill

he will never shut up about it

[storm osprey]

isnt the zoomer use of based supposed to basically mean idgaf?

[supple bane]

i have never heard this ?

[storm osprey]

i think the definition was "not caring what others think, true to yourself"

when i originally thought it meant it was BASED on logic/facts

[quick locust]

I am supermicro shill

jk

[supple bane]

linux shill

[storm osprey]

and p12 are like, 95% of what noctua fans are, but waaaaaay cheaper

[supple bane]

here we go

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[quick locust]

yeah but better exists

[storm osprey]

YOU CANT ARGUE AGAINST MATH

better DOES exist, at a price

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-blah-blah-blah-roll-eyes-eyeroll-whatever-gif-16216173

[storm osprey]

price to performance is king

[supple bane]

BUT THEY ARE UGLLLYYYYY

[storm osprey]

p12?

they are black...

[supple bane]

ugly

[storm osprey]

noctuas are ugly

[supple bane]

you are ugly

[quick locust]

noctua is overpriced

[storm osprey]

=[

my mom says im handsome

[supple bane]

im sure she does

[quick locust]

But at least they aren't LL120s

[supple bane]

i really like AF120's, in white

[supple bane]

non of that rgb. just one cable, with perfect white LED's

[storm osprey]

look at you guys with your expensive ass fans

i got 5 for 40 bucks

8 bucks a pop!

[molten coral]

Nyphon is pretty based

[storm osprey]

[supple bane]

the above mentioned af120's are from my maths about 9 pounds a pop. id much rather pay that premium for the visuals

[storm osprey]

thats assuming they have the same performance

which i doubt they do

[supple bane]

not even

if they perform worse id still get them

[molten coral]

Do you even notice the difference?

[quick locust]

my 180mm fans would be a bit pricy to replace

but they should last long

[storm osprey]

im a sound whore, my shits gotta be quiet af

[supple bane]

my next build will have something similar to the AF series i think, no RGB, just a 3 pin fan header with a static LED colour

[quick locust]

All my fans are 1200 rpm, but my gpu fans ruin it with 3000

[supple bane]

super easy, and great for a colour theme

[molten coral]

Personally I don't care about the few extra degrees that comes with more visual fans.

[supple bane]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[molten coral]

It isn't like you gonna notice i t

[quick locust]

I just do performance over anything

[supple bane]

im just a shill for good looking builds

[quick locust]

I won't be looking at it anyway

[storm osprey]

im not gonna notice my pc under my desk while im bustin headshots

[molten coral]

My PC is on my desk

[supple bane]

my pc IS my desk :]

[storm osprey]

the on desk master race

wait nvm

the pc is desk master race

[molten coral]

My desk is 180 centimetre so I've loads of space

[storm osprey]

i do too, i just play games in the front room commonly so i made a cart

its been really helpful lately with It Takes Two

[quick locust]

my case is 64 cm long

[molten coral]

I think you posted that before yea

[quick locust]

abour

[storm osprey]

yea ive posted it in here before

i definitely over engineered it but whatever

[quick locust]

i posted mine two days ago

[storm osprey]

wtf.. is that upside down?

[quick locust]

no

[supple bane]

i hope im not the only one that twisted their head like a curious dog trying to workout what i was looking at

[storm osprey]

is it one of those inverse builds?

[quick locust]

yeah

[storm osprey]

like you build on the left panel instead of right?

[quick locust]

the IO is on top of case

its an RV02E

[supple bane]

that is.. weird

[supple bane]

bet thats a fun time trying to cable manage

[quick locust]

pretty old, they made quite a few since then

[storm osprey]

that thing is LONG

[supple bane]

also do those fans have fan guards or is it like 50 fins?

[quick locust]

fan guards

[supple bane]

those are funky fan guards

[quick locust]

to focus air

its pretty old but ive had no reason to replace it

But I might eventually

Maybe to a mid or full tower

Don't want matx

Look at people water cooling it :P

[storm osprey]

i want a new case too

[quick locust]

I want both new case and desk eventually

[molten coral]

I need/want a new gpu

[quick locust]

Good luck

[molten coral]

I know

[quick locust]

[storm osprey]

lol such shitty times

[molten coral]

I'm getting blue screens a lot more frequently and my FPS drops from 120 to 20-30 fps sometimes

[supple bane]

another question, your motherboard. is the chipset heatsink not supposed to light up?

thats what mine looks like^

it looks like a high end gigabyte board, weird for it to not have rgb there

[proud trellis]

my friend kept getting blue screening but when he reinstalled windows it stopped. have you tried reinstalling windows ?

[molten coral]

It's the card, it isn't Windows fucking up.

[proud trellis]

oh

[molten coral]

I've tested enough to know the GPU is the problem lul

[quick locust]

mine?

[supple bane]

yus

[quick locust]

I turned it off

but it does have rgb there

[supple bane]

oh ok. makes sense

[quick locust]

its a z390 aorus pro

[supple bane]

yeah mines an aorus elite

considering i payed what i payed. its gud

[quick locust]

A lot of oem boards dont even have a chipset heatsink

[supple bane]

bios sucks ass, but other than that

[quick locust]

well its fine

less buggy than when I used MSIs

just a mess

also they gave it rbar support pretty quickly

[supple bane]

yeah, i first got into tinkering with computers on an asus gaming board bios. and then i moved to gigabyte and it was a big step down

the ui is so much more confusing, and i cannot for the life of me work out cpu voltage lol

[quick locust]

Had once where it booted into second bios and I was like what happened

[supple bane]

i gave up trying to apply an overclock

[quick locust]

Intels bios is best imo on their NUCs

[supple bane]

i know what the settings i need to dial in are, because ive done it with ryzen master. i just cant figure out how to do it

i need 4ghz and 1.35v. i KNOW thats stable as ive been using it for about a year through ryzen master. but i means i have to launch RM and apply the OC every time i start my pc and its annoying

[quick locust]

I wish supermicro did AM4 boards

they make decent mobos

[supple bane]

its just the voltage, its a weird offset thing, but idk what its offsetting from and what its increasing to.

so just telling me "+0.02v" isnt very helpful considering idk what its starting from

[supple bane]

lolll ive been ranting about how shit and how much of a scam oculus is. i just got a driver update and i thought maybe that would finally fix my problems. NOPE it just made them worse!

before i could get 10 minutes ish of playtime out of the headset before it borked out and i had to restart my pc, now it borks the moment you put it on

A* oculus. you really are the worst company ive ever brought anything from :)

[sinful mantle]

I hear ya Granty. VR is still in it's infancy much like cinema at the turn of last century...imma hold out a few more years before I shell out thousands for a gimmick

[digital hill]

Setup my new psu

It looks quite weird in the front but the back is horrible but not as horrible as my evga 500w 80+ white one'

Well I can't do much about that

Yeah i can't do much about it

[proud trellis]

is that the corsair 4000D ?

case

[modern gull]

Wonder whats next

[storm osprey]

i kept reading bluefield as battlefield

[modern gull]

lul

[digital hill]

@proud trellis Yes it is

[quick locust]

nvidia doing well

[digital hill]

yes it is

[quick locust]

nvidia doing well

https://www.engadget.com/nvidia-mediatek-arm-pcs-gpus-170021586.html

[turbid verge]

Why do you think Nvidia aquired ARM

[quick locust]

They designed some of their own too

Nvidia grace

and alta

[dry pike]

Erhm, there's NO PSU in that picture 😄

Unless you want us to imagine how it looks under the shroud.

[storm osprey]

yeaaa i was confused by that as well

[digital hill]

The cable is different

If you look closely its not mustard anymore

[storm osprey]

"Setup my new psu
It looks quite weird in the front but the back is horrible but not as horrible as my evga 500w 80+ white one'"

i think we are looking for a new psu

[latent light]

ARM won't pass up x86 in gaming anytime soon

[ashen sable]

using the power of handy links, i present to you a piece of low tech that some among you may recognize

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/335481707010719746/831318719342968832/20210412_193448.jpg

[chrome skiff]

I have my grandfather's old 91 carcano. Rounds are little hard to get and run about 2-2.50 a round from local shops

[wooden creek]

No kidding eh

Has the stock/barrel been chopped down on it?

[viscid lion]

What cpu should I go with if I dont want a huge bottleneck with my 3080 tryna 4k or 2k game

Im thinking an AMD somewhat ryzen 9? along the lines

[latent light]

If you're strictly gaming, i5-11400 for $180, or Ryzen 5 5600X for $300
The i5-11400 is massively cheaper and is only about 7% slower than the 5600X tho

If you need more than 6 cores, get a Ryzen 9 5900X as it's much better value than the Ryzen 7 5800X

[viscid lion]

thanks

[latent light]

5800X has 2 more cores than the 5600X but is $150 more, meanwhile the 5900X has 4 more cores than the 5800X and is just $100 more

[viscid lion]

I want more cores though

so 8 will do

[latent light]

5900X offers much better cores-per-dollar than the 5800X

5800X is one of the worst AMD CPUs ever in terms of value

[viscid lion]

uhuh then i wont get it i wasn't planning to get it anyway '

[latent light]

i7-10700K is an 8-core is usually over $100 cheaper than the Ryzen 7 5800X, while being only about 5% slower

[viscid lion]

it's not a big difference, so i might go for it because i dont wanna spend to much

but also if you know different currency

so yeah we will see

[solar kestrel]

i thought it was battlefield and i was confused

[latent light]

If a Nintendo Switch only scales up to 1080p, will it be shrunk down or blurry on a 4K TV?

[weak girder]

no

[opaque saddle]

I see what you mean. It won’t look sharp on UHD display but it looks nice and sharp on Full HD display

[digital hill]

Tested my usb handbrake

dislike only one thing

its clamping system is metal and metal and glass is not really ogod

and would fall out almost half the time

[supple bane]

glass desk. yikes

i would fear doing anything on a glass desk tbh

[sinful mantle]

As I was cleaning my glass desk I accidentally dropped a monitor and it shattered. Good thing I just removed the PC.

[opaque saddle]

time to get a kensinton lock

[quick locust]

Lenovo your website is a mess

Spelling errors, a mess of a layout

It's like they just used google translate for the danish page

[hasty snow]

Because they most likely did, as long as the point gets across there’s nothing to point out

[proud trellis]

https://youtu.be/EQMeq2MWCYk

[storm osprey]

how does on drag click?

[proud trellis]

i want to know how to do it too tbh but i have no clue how they do it

[storm osprey]

i dont see a reason to be able to do it

its a minecraft thing right?

[raw turtle]

Something to do with tape and dragging your finger on it causes your finger to bounce because of the resistance

[supple bane]

i feel like that is very unhealthy for the mouse

putting weird pressure on the switch

[storm osprey]

i imagine the lateral pressure is more on the mouse button than the switch

[latent light]

The reason Resizable BAR doesn't work as well for RTX 3000 as is it does with RX 6000 is because Ampere isn't memory starved like RDNA2 is

Resizable BAR helps a lot with GPUs that don't have fast memory

Nvidia may not have needed to buy expensive GDDR6X at all.... Now there's software that tightens the communication latencies between your CPU, GPU and memory

[raw turtle]

Also considering Nvidia slapped on support with a half assed driver

[supple bane]

https://youtu.be/zk97ywS-fGc

29:12

All those dropped items are fighting back

[quick locust]

:P

@latent light still helps

pcie and ddr4 is slow in comparison

[storm osprey]

!!r3