technology

[jagged torrent]

THEN STEAM DECREASED THE REFUND LIMIT

AND NOW

AAAGGHGHGHHHHH

[modern gull]

They have increased from 90 minutes. Calm down a bit tho

[jagged torrent]

decreased

it was 2 hours

[modern gull]

From what?

Did you even see the image i sent?

[jagged torrent]

yeah

I already tried

😭

[modern gull]

Then you see its 2 hours now. It was 90 minutes before

So you tried to refund?

[jagged torrent]

yeah

They declined

I tried like 5 times

[modern gull]

What did they say?

[jagged torrent]

an automated email

saying that i couldnt do it

ill try again

but im sure it wont work

[modern gull]

Did you use the free text box when selecting other issues?

[jagged torrent]

yes

I wrote like 4 paragraphs

[modern gull]

How long have you played the game in the first place?

[jagged torrent]

a whole enitrie fuckign essay

[jagged torrent]

since december

but I only have like 30 hours on the game

[modern gull]

Lol

How do you expect they would refund you then?

[jagged torrent]

because I cant fucking launch the game!

[modern gull]

Well if you played it for 30 hours i am sure it launched at somepoint

[weak girder]

[jagged torrent]

what I mean is, its unplayable

[weak girder]

yeah but judging its unplayable after 30 hours is a bit of a stretch

[modern gull]

[jagged torrent]

are you kidding me?

[modern gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422598689928773632/828094309655904266/unknown.png

[jagged torrent]

bro

[weak girder]

no

[jagged torrent]

I played for 30 hours with constant lag

[weak girder]

...

[weak girder]

well thats your problem

[modern gull]

Re read this @jagged torrent

[jagged torrent]

you're right

[weak girder]

if its unplayable for the forst 2 hours it aint gonna improve

[modern gull]

[jagged torrent]

im trying to not make the same mistake i did with rdr2

So I am asking if bfv is playable with my hardware?

[modern gull]

What is your hardware?

!!specs

[silent oasis]

ℹ Battlefield V: System Requirements:
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451791186642993152/509053395768705024/sys.png

[modern gull]

These are the Requirements atleast

[weak girder]

gtx 1050 is miles ahead the 660

[jagged torrent]

nvidia gtx 1060 3gb

i5-8400 cpu

[weak girder]

8gb ram?

[jagged torrent]

yes

[modern gull]

And you have issues in rdr2?

[jagged torrent]

correct

[jagged torrent]

its unplayable

[weak girder]

I dont understand how since rdr2 occupies around 8gb ram

[modern gull]

Its completly playable with 1060, you dont get 60fps at high settings ofc

[jagged torrent]

hey man

do you want me to screenshare a benchmark

I get around 11 fps

its incredible

[modern gull]

Then something is strange

[weak girder]

what settings?

[modern gull]

Was about to ask

[jagged torrent]

medium

[weak girder]

uhhhhh

1080p?

[modern gull]

Btw how do you play at 11 fps for 30 hours?

[jagged torrent]

dunno

[weak girder]

idk how you possibly could

[jagged torrent]

i spent 60 bucks on the game

so fuck it

I have a question

gtg brb

[modern gull]

Your pc should be able to reach 30 fps with pretty high settings in rdr2

[weak girder]

id say medium-high

[modern gull]

Make sure to disable certian things

[weak girder]

and rdr2 is very playable with 8gb ram

[modern gull]

Probably

[weak girder]

maybe its the ram speeds

[modern gull]

Could even high just some settings kill gpu lul

[weak girder]

water physics and reflection

[modern gull]

Most games actually should be

[weak girder]

even bfv is quite playable as long as you donr have too much apps running

[modern gull]

@jagged torrent Turn off parralax occlusion or tesselation. Also turn down volumetric/raymarch quality, then you should see some improvement. Also reduce shadows. I dont remember all the settings at this time but those from what i remember should give you a decent boost.

[weak girder]

keep textures on ultra

[modern gull]

[weak girder]

or else...

shit I lost my image perms

not long before I lose my colors

[modern gull]

Rip

[jagged torrent]

cant

Dont have enough vram for ultra

[jagged torrent]

really?

let me send you a screenshot

[weak girder]

change it in config files

[jagged torrent]

already tried

Thermal throttling happend

wears my pc

[radiant plover]

Seems like you need a good thermal paste.

[jagged torrent]

seems like you can go

[weak girder]

do you have a macbook or smth lmao

[jagged torrent]

no

[radiant plover]

[jagged torrent]

@weak girder buddy

here is the question

can I run battlefield v?

thats all i need to know

[weak girder]

normally id say yes but since all the games you play stutter like hell Id tell you no

[jagged torrent]

wdym

[modern gull]

Obviously not at max but should run

[jagged torrent]

red dead 2 is the only one

[jagged torrent]

rdr2 is the only game that stutters

everything else is fine

[weak girder]

yeah

[radiant plover]

@jagged torrent I can give you my costume settings I'm using the GTX 1050 4GB and 8GB ram and I7 8750h it's very playable at least on BF V.

[modern gull]

Dont forget rdr2 has certian settings that kills gpu also they might have those too high,

[weak girder]

costume

[weak girder]

what settings?

[jagged torrent]

its okay, I got the game on ps4

[radiant plover]

The Graphics settings

[jagged torrent]

@weak girder is BFV playable?

[weak girder]

lmao obviously but what ARE the settings

[weak girder]

yes

[jagged torrent]

okay

[jagged torrent]

how come rdr2 isnt then?

[radiant plover]

Let me DM you the screenshot of the settings

[modern gull]

I have typed it couple times

Also you only have 3gb vram

[jagged torrent]

OKAY

[radiant plover]

There I sent you.

[jagged torrent]

EVERYONE

FORGET ABOUT RDR2

I am now talking about BFV

[modern gull]

ok

[jagged torrent]

so

hopfully

it can run

i got rdr2 on ps4

[modern gull]

[latent light]

Only 8GB RAM and 6 CPU threads might be a bit stuttery in multiplayer

[solar kestrel]

Yikes

16 Gb ram is like the standard now

[latent light]

Dual channel RAM too

[radiant plover]

What if the 8GB ram was Dual channel instead of Single channel ?

[latent light]

8GB single channel is a disaster

[radiant plover]

Well good thing my ram isn't single channel then

[digital hill]

prebuilt companies want you to think single channel is good

[scarlet needle]

i use it

[bitter wadi]

pre built uses cheap stuff like motherboard and price it at a high peak

[near rune]

They generally don't use like a cool looking mobo or dual channel memory

And overclockable cpus

Since they use very basic mobos

[opaque saddle]

[quick locust]

lol

[prime jasper]

0 hz isnt that 0fps? xd

[quick locust]

Electronic stores in DPRK are interesting

TVs, radios and.. diesel generators

[jagged torrent]

lol

[latent light]

Zen4 may have a doubling of L3 cache over Zen3, RDNA2 based iGPUs could use the CPU's L3 cache as a substitute for Infinity Cache

[weak girder]

wall of text

[latent light]

DDR5 memory production is skyrocketing already this month, we're not too far from seeing next gen

Intel 12th gen Alder-Lake and LGA1700 socket looking at a October/November launch

[quick locust]

lol

[proud trellis]

wtf

[modern gull]

Am i seeing clearly that the 750ti is 500 pounds?

[supple bane]

Those are like wish level gpus too

Fucking amazons basic graphics cards

[quick locust]

yeah this is amazon UK @modern gull

[supple bane]

Could you link it?

I wanna dig deeper

[quick locust]

im not a brit but I wanted to explain someone that it isnt best time to look for 300 gbp gpus

[modern gull]

What a joke lul. Sad part is somebody might buy them thinking they are good or even worth that price

[quick locust]

I just searched gpu graphics card on amazon uk, those were pretty quick to find @supple bane

[quick locust]

that and people with 0 patiencr

[supple bane]

You are right

I thought amazon was a reputable company, I didn't expect they would be selling clearly rip off unbranded cards like that

[quick locust]

ye

I just searched graphics card and expected a mess

[proud trellis]

wonder if i should sell a 1050ti i have ? or would i literally make nothing

[latent light]

You could sell it easy

[proud trellis]

how much do you think i would be able to get tho

[latent light]

$100-120

[proud trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-blinking-okay-white-guy-blinking-gif-7513882

better get this shit up on ebay then

[modern gull]

Found out on reddit where all the new nvidia gpu's are. Its on the back of this trike

https://i.redd.it/82796yoe36r61.jpg

[turbid verge]

straight up going to a mining farm

[modern gull]

Highly likely

[dusk plaza]

Free btc

[jagged torrent]

If you have a decent knowledge about pc parts dm me

[prime jasper]

Does anyone think I can make a shitty pc into a good one by fillin it with good parts

[latent light]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-56635888

RIP LG phones

[supple bane]

Yes, but that depends on what the specs are of the machine you want to upgrade and how much you want to spend

[latent light]

LG has been suffering losses from smartphone business because they're having trouble competing with Samsung, Motorola, Huawei in both the high-end and value oriented sectors

[near rune]

Motorola?

Dont they make those simple cheap phones

With buttons

[latent light]

Nah they make brand new low-end and mid-range smartphones these days

They actually have one of the best value phones imo

[near rune]

Well i dont think theyr over lg

Brands like samsung huawei apple xiaomi

But lg just doesn't make phones they make everything

[quick locust]

lg phones have been decent

[orchid folio]

RIP LG phones, we will remember you

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-3070-out-sold-everything-march

[orchid folio]

expecting it would take around 1 year for it to be available

or 6 months

[modern gull]

Maybe i should sell mine for 2-3k usd, that would be some nice profit.

[orchid folio]

lmao

You got a 3070?

[modern gull]

Yes got it ages ago lul

[orchid folio]

nice

I found one in a store

and got it

[modern gull]

Was gonna buy the 3080 but changed the order. Good thing i did cause i wouldn't have received one for a pretty long time.

[orchid folio]

because we dont really have miners in my country

[modern gull]

Oh i see

[orchid folio]

Like there are miners but not to the scale of the US

[modern gull]

Oh ya fair enough. I dont really know where the most miners would be, but i would expect atleast a decent amount in the ASIA region

[molten coral]

Meanwhile in the Netherlands there is a queue for some cards up to 6 months.

Just insane

[modern gull]

Damn

The 3070 didnt take me long to get. I originally ordered the 3080, but good thing i changed my order cause they still didnt recive any several months after.

Might even check now if any came so far

Nope still no new 3080's

Wonder how long this issue is actually going to last

[molten coral]

until the end of the pandemic

[modern gull]

Mhm probably. I suppose the pandemic is causing alot of production bottlenecks here and there.

[quick locust]

laptops be like

[digital hill]

that ssd is not doing too good

[weak girder]

69

[near rune]

Wth

90c ssd

[modern gull]

[quick locust]

lol

[weak girder]

nice to grill a steak

[modern gull]

[modern gull]

Mine

Laptop temps are scary @quick locust

[quick locust]

ye

that picture wasn't mine but

my laptop ssd idles at 45C

[weak girder]

these are quite low

[quick locust]

and it's not nvme

[weak girder]

mine are around 65

[modern gull]

To be honest i dont know what the drive 0, 2 and 5 is. Since they are different

Atleast the bottom drive is m.2

[modern gull]

I have adjusted cooling for better VRM cooling, could be that it improved m.2 temps aswell.

HDD shouldn't be affected by the adjustment.

[latent light]

Why are people surprised that a upper mid-range GPU is the top seller?

Usually the xx60 and xx70 cards are sold the most

[turbid verge]

I think the point is that a xx70 never actually was at the performance of a ti version

the 2070 wasnt near the 1080ti performance

plus the 3070 might be the best car for price to performance

[digital hill]

damn I can get a car for 500-700 dollars great deal

[latent light]

3080 provides the best performance-per-dollar

The $200 gap between the 3070 and 3080 is quite small for a >40% increase in performance imo

[storm osprey]

i think it depends on resolution, especially for nvidia since for some reason 1080p performance isnt relative to 4k performance

[latent light]

True

3080 is 4K focused

[storm osprey]

3080 at 1080p is borderline dumb imo

[latent light]

3070 is aimed at 1440p

[turbid verge]

3080 is not 4k focused only

I know friends who got a 3080 for 144hz+ at 1440p

[latent light]

There's this dude in the war thunder discord that tells me his i7-8700K doesn't bottleneck his 3080 at 1080p lmao

[turbid verge]

at 1440p doesnt

3080 for 1080p is overkill

[digital hill]

for 75hz can a 3070 be good?

[turbid verge]

yeh just depends on res aswell

I mean I run 1440p but 2 monitors at once

[latent light]

For 1080p 75hz I'd get a RTX 3060 at most

[turbid verge]

I know people who run triple setup at 1440p 144hz for racing games etc

[latent light]

Maybe wait for 3050Ti

For racing games I'd rather have a super ultrawide monitor than having 3 monitors, fuck them bezels

[turbid verge]

@digital hill Friends of mine who have 3070 are runing it for 1080p 144hz and its not really overkill. Although if you in the future want to upgrade to 1440p or even just 1080p 144hz the 3070 is a good card for it

[digital hill]

ah

[latent light]

3070 is for maxing out all settings including ray-tracing in 1080p

[turbid verge]

even with current settings is good to give a thought for future investments in the hardware side

@latent light yeh but playing with ray tracing is limited to some games and its not really worth it since its barelly noticeable for example in multiplayer games where you want performance over quality

adventure games yeh sure I guess

but since DLSS is a thing playing with ray tracing performance wise is good

[latent light]

DLSS does cause ghosting in some games

[storm osprey]

looking at cyberpunk driving

[turbid verge]

if you say so. Doesnt defeat the point of using it

[storm osprey]

it is really distracting under certain scenarios though

[turbid verge]

@digital hill but if you get a 3070 or 3060ti. Try give a look at Gsync monitors

[latent light]

War Thunder DLSS is probably the worst implementation of it so far

[turbid verge]

I got my 1440p 144hz Gsync monitor is amazing

[digital hill]

eeeh I like 1440p 75hz proart monitor

I think I can enable gsync but I don't know what'll happen

[turbid verge]

gsync helps on the screentearing

[latent light]

I want a FreeSync Pro monitor

[digital hill]

enabled gsync

no difference really

[turbid verge]

mostly you see it is when you play games

[digital hill]

I can enable it but I don't want it to change my color accuracy

[turbid verge]

does something like that

[digital hill]

oh

[turbid verge]

basically helps when reading a frame isnt aligned

this is mostly applied in games

[latent light]

Screen tearing annoys me more than stutter for some reason

[digital hill]

I don't think its even worth it

my gtx 1660ti is not going to do 75hz easily

[latent light]

Hope this makes yall uncomfortable

[digital hill]

It is

[quick locust]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-google-oracle/u-s-supreme-court-sides-with-google-in-major-copyright-dispute-with-oracle-idUSKBN2BS1A9

[coarse nimbus]

anything WT tries is usually the worst version of it

[proud trellis]

so i think my ssd is broken. i had BF4 installed on my SSD and BF4 would usually freeze when loading into games but i just installed it on one of my hardrives and it runs fine with no freezing. any way of telling if my ssd if actually broke ? something like a performance test

[digital hill]

@proud trellis Check temps on it

[proud trellis]

thats what im thinking tbh

is there any way i can check the temps ?

[digital hill]

@proud trellis Open hardware monitor?

[orchid folio]

https://youtu.be/-1mrb5YH4ng

[proud trellis]

so my ssd is sat right on top of a HDD, could that possibly be an issue with temps ?

[supple bane]

temps arent an issue for drives

unless you have one of those stupid rgb ssds or are holding a heat gun to it

they basically wont go much above ambient

[proud trellis]

oh

[prime jasper]

where am I supposed to get game support?

[supple bane]

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[proud trellis]

does that userbechmark test the drives ?

[supple bane]

yes

[proud trellis]

i will do one of those then

[supple bane]

why do you think you have something wrong with your drives ?

[proud trellis]

you know how I got that 1TB SSD like 2 months ago now

[supple bane]

mm

[proud trellis]

Every game that is on there freezes when loading onto games

Eg I put BF4 on there and when I went into matches it would freeze and then I would have to ALT+F4 but last night I installed BF4 on my HDD and it didn’t freeze

[supple bane]

it amazes me how fucked your computer is

anything you touch breaks lmao

[proud trellis]

it’s actual bullshit man

I’m cursed

[supple bane]

i still think there is a motherboard or cpu issue

[proud trellis]

I think it’s a motherboard issue to

[supple bane]

my money is on motherboard,

[proud trellis]

It has to be the motherboard

[supple bane]

it would certainly explain the random and weird problems

[proud trellis]

surely it would explain the random freezing of my pc ?

[supple bane]

motherboards can cause crashing yes

[proud trellis]

I mean I’m not surprised if it is the motherboard because it’s like 70 pound

[supple bane]

you could maybe grab a b365 board on amazon and throw your stuff on it and see if it resolves the issues, if it doesnt just return it

i think amazon allows returns within a certain period at least

[proud trellis]

if my mobo is the issue wouldnt it come up on the benchmark about it being a low % ?

[supple bane]

its not possible to benchmark a motherboard

[proud trellis]

oh

thing is tho i doubt scan would be able to do anything because at this point i have had the computer for a year

[supple bane]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/P9WBD3/asrock-b365m-hdv-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b365m-hdv

[proud trellis]

wtf

[supple bane]

i only paid 80 pounds for mine 🤷‍♂️

[proud trellis]

oh

nvm

thing is tho my games/pc never froze before i sent it to scan

at first i thought something come loose while it was travelling

@supple bane all my drives are fine

just the 240GB is a lower

[modern gull]

Thats alot of drives lul

[proud trellis]

i could do with taking a HDD out tbf but i want to start making vids so im gonna keep it for now 😆

[supple bane]

im still pretty sure there are two windows installs on that machine too

two drives have an os on them

[proud trellis]

where

i can only see the 240GB with (system drive)

[supple bane]

idk, look in file explorer on all the different drives and look for these files

[proud trellis]

nope

just on my C drive

[supple bane]

oh ok

wait the wd green is the boot drive?

[proud trellis]

yeah its the m.2 drive

[supple bane]

yikes

such a shit drive

no ram cache, its performing worse than your hdds in that image

[proud trellis]

is WD green shit ?

[supple bane]

lol so many people have told you that

yes

it has no dram cache,

[proud trellis]

oh

[quick locust]

my 600p doesnt either

[supple bane]

ssds without cache arent much faster than hard drives

[quick locust]

They are in burst

They just hit a brick wall after a while in sustained

[storm osprey]

no dram is not the only factor, iirc something like the wd sn550 doesnt have dram but doesnt have a problem because it has some other feature

Why is the SN550 good when it doesn’t have dram nor HMB?

"The SN550 does not use HMB (if at all) in the conventional sense. If the SRAM cache has a miss (table data requested is missing), it evicts the last-used entry into HMB and puts in the new one. Most HMB drives have big issues with sudden power loss due to system memory being volatile and higher latency than local DRAM. The SN550 doesn't seem to have that issue. So that implies the SRAM is sufficient for consumer workloads and the HMB is probably just for already-committed data. Theoretically then, the SN550 (vs. SN500) could be better in heavy workloads although the SN500 when full still matched E12 drives largely because SRAM is faster than DRAM so for working sets that fit within it. SRAM, however, is way more expensive. SN550 uses HMB only as a victim cache. What makes the SN550 stand a little bit out further than SM2263XT or Phison E13T drives is in the fact it has more SRAM than those drives."

[supple bane]

can someone explain the difference between all of these ?

and which one would i need?

[storm osprey]

sizes afaik

[supple bane]

oh as in lengths ?

[storm osprey]

yea, but idk what those numbers mean if they are related to length

[supple bane]

mm, i have been considering grabbing an m.2 ssd but after watching some videos on boot time comparisons it doesnt really seem worth it

[storm osprey]

for just gaming, no its not worth it, been saying this for years

[quaint topaz]

Time for a case upgrade

[storm osprey]

niceeeee

[supple bane]

when the box is part of the instruction manual

[quaint topaz]

Cheaped out on storage

Still better than my 8 year old HDD

And no wonder my GPU screams at me for playing ow

[storm osprey]

sn550 is a damn good gamer ssd

[quaint topaz]

Phenomenal

[proud trellis]

i love that case

[storm osprey]

how is it so dusty!

[quaint topaz]

I've heard good things about it so just picked it up. I want good airflow and dust filtering. I don't really like my old nzxt case anymore

I've been so busy with work so I haven't cleaned it in like 8 months

[storm osprey]

even for 8 months that seems like a good amount

[quaint topaz]

My room has poor ventilation. I keep a humidifier running all the time

[storm osprey]

perk of living in arizona where you constantly have the ac running and it filters your air 24/7

supposedly arizonians get good sleep because of this too

[digital hill]

Ah the dust

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-preparing-x570s-motherboards-could-be-for-amd-zen3-warhol-cpus

[hard venture]

hi guys i have bad fps in bf 1 idk how

i have a 3070

i get only 120 on medium settings

and pretty bad drops

[storm osprey]

i mean.. if youre pairing that with an i7 2700 youre gonna have problems

[hard venture]

i have ryzen 5xxx

[storm osprey]

i mean.. if youre pairing those with 2gb of ram youre gonna have problems

(trying to get you to give us more information)

[hard venture]

2x8 3200mhz

and very good temps if u wanna know that too

[storm osprey]

that helps

drivers up to date?

[hard venture]

yes

[storm osprey]

are you hard stuck on 120 like theres a cap?

[digital hill]

dx12 or dx11?

[hard venture]

i capped the fps to 120

[hard venture]

how do i see

yes

its dx12

[digital hill]

change to dx11

dx12 is unstable still

[storm osprey]

im confused, you capped the fps at 120..

and youre saying youre only getting 120...

[hard venture]

i mean 200

capped

srry

[storm osprey]

ok lol

[orchid folio]

https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg

This is just hilarious

[hard venture]

guys and whats up with hdr?

hd10 best?

[storm osprey]

thats a certification which doesn necessarily mean anything afaik

are you using windows hdr?

[hard venture]

idk

i mean i have no problems with any game just bf1

[storm osprey]

iirc windows hdr implementation is shit and not recommended

[hard venture]

how do i check

[storm osprey]

probably display in windows

[lost venture]

Here’s my old pc

[fallow garden]

@lost venture what gpu

looks decent

[lost venture]

1060

[fallow garden]

wtf

so have I

damn

It aint bad right

[storm osprey]

lol pc looks like an old dell office tower, then has a good gpu in there

[supple bane]

thats a very good way to get a gaming pc

second hand office pc.

[storm osprey]

ive recommended that route here a ton

[supple bane]

slap a used low profile 1050ti in there, AAA games here we come for 300 bucks

[storm osprey]

only main concern is psu

[supple bane]

thats why you get a 1050ti

or 1650 super

because they dont need any dedicated power connectors

[storm osprey]

yea but id still be worried about the quality

[supple bane]

i wouldnt tbh.

they are usually like 300w.

so its pretty hard in this day and age for a power supply of that rating to have components inside that arent capable of providing that sort of power 24/7

[storm osprey]

i never skimp out on a psu

its like the 1 thing i definitely over compensate for

[supple bane]

like if a computer has a psu thats rated for 300w, its likely the pc wont draw more than 150w ish, and like i said you would be hard come by to get components that isnt capable of providing that comfortably

[storm osprey]

i remember i tried using an office pc to build an extra gaming pc, but i already had a random gpu that needed power connection but my psu didnt have any

i found a sata power to pcie power adapter...

[supple bane]

those are only designed for 30w i think

54*

[lost venture]

for the longest time I could run like any game max graphics around 45fps but it was getting slow, hdd was super old and was running out of storage

Also I lost the side panel lol

[supple bane]

ive considered building them and then selling them for like 25 pounds profit dell office gaming pc i mena

ive considerd that alot

i just couldnt cough up the starting cost

[storm osprey]

ehh doesnt sound worth considering all the time spent purchasing and selling and potentially troubleshooting

[supple bane]

i dont think you know/remember what its like being a teenager with no money and loads of time :)

not worth it for you defiantly, you have a job. but when all i get is 20 pounds a month in allowance, a potential 25 pounds profit from a few hours work sounds like a great deal

[storm osprey]

bleh fuck that

id rather work at mcdonalds

[supple bane]

so would i

but i cant

i got my national insurance number (social security number) now so i can get a job. but covid happened so that all went out the window

[lost venture]

I don’t get allowance

[storm osprey]

theres still jobs though right?

just harder to get

[supple bane]

i honestly havent looked

[latent light]

GTX 1080 Ti could be brought back into production

[lost venture]

Could do yardwork

[supple bane]

the country is opening back up here, april 12th and most shops and things will be fully open. so once this rolls around im going to start applying for weekend jobs

[latent light]

Walmart is paying $15/hr here now, when everything else pays only $8-10/hr

[supple bane]

minimum wage for a 16 year old here is 6 dollars ish

[quick locust]

No minimum wage in my country but I earned enough when I was a teen to afford pc

Average wage is decent

[lost venture]

Minimum wage in my state is like 7,25/hour

[supple bane]

for an adult minimum wage here is 12 dollars

but for 16 year olds its lower

[digital hill]

@fervent solar Please don't promote your music anywhere on our discord.

[quaint topaz]

Ah yes.

Cables

My hands are bleeding. Maybe one day they'll make a case appropriate for people with giant hands that doesn't have sharp corners

But so far I like that case.

[storm osprey]

thats a lot of tweezers

[solar kestrel]

General is wierd so I came here to some logical peole and instead I see a horrible mess of cables

[storm osprey]

lol goopy calling out peters cable management

[solar kestrel]

Indeed

[supple bane]

rgb be like

[storm osprey]

another reason to forego rgb

[supple bane]

i have a love hate relationship for rgb. its annoying, expensive and killed my mobo but its worth it

for the customisation

for example i had all my lights set to red, and once i got bored of that, one quick visit to the bios and i have a brand new looking pc that will probably look fresh for another few months

[modern gull]

Looks cleaner than my pc on the backside

[turbid verge]

@modern gull its a new case

[modern gull]

[supple bane]

i refuse to show the underside of my pc, its an embarrassment

[digital hill]

You don't want to see mine either and I removed the foam from inside the case

I forgot to remove foam inside my pc case

[supple bane]

foam?

[storm osprey]

now i wanna see everyones cable management

[quaint topaz]

I still haven't finished cable management

Have work tomorrow

Need to be up early

Will send an update then

That was just a piss poor build to make sure everything works lol

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-box-of-shame-peek-look-embarrassed-gif-3954733

shit photo

the fans are so bright my phone was having a fit trying to take a picture of dark cables next to those

Das better

[storm osprey]

oof

it is custom though

[solar kestrel]

[quick locust]

https://youtu.be/VFXGoL2rolE

hm

wish they were better

[dusk plaza]

Wish.com

Bam

[digital hill]

wish.com if you want pc parts that are from past for very expensive cost

I wonder if I can sell a pentium 4 on there for 300 dollars

[proud trellis]

I’m gonna put my 1050ti on eBay tomorrow and see if it actually sells

I doubt it will but worth the shot

[digital hill]

Well I still need to construct my friend a gaming pc

I have all the parts

amd athlon x4 forget which one but its 4c 4t doesn't do sse4

with rx 570 4gb and 8gb ddr2 ram

[lofty light]

I've still got a Haswell era i3 spare PC in my cabinet at home, was once used as a gaming server and ran an ARK server on it

[solar kestrel]

send me a link

[opaque saddle]

I have a haswell Xeon and a GTX 960 under my bed. It used to be my gaming rig

[lofty light]

I've still got my bros old bulldozer CPU and 970 PC under my bed too

Need to use it for something or find someone who wants PC parts

Without having to mail them

[opaque saddle]

I have 2 bulldozer PC parts at my parents’ house

One of them was only a few months old at that time until I got a new laptop and replaced it after all

[solar kestrel]

[vagrant flint]

Hey all I'm after a graphics card as close to South east England as I can get, my gtx 1060 died and want to get back into bfv 😅

[solar kestrel]

Rn ur kinda fecked for the most part

[supple bane]

Good luck getting a gpu lol

[solar kestrel]

[modern gull]

https://i.redd.it/82796yoe36r61.jpg

[supple bane]

just ordered an 870 evo for my laptop

noice

[solar kestrel]

[supple bane]

the hdd in that thing is amazingly slow.

it makes the thing unusable some times

[near rune]

you have a hdd

in a laptop

[supple bane]

ye

a 2.5" hard drive

[near rune]

must be painful

[supple bane]

its awful

[solar kestrel]

His laptop is probably better then what I have

[supple bane]

maximum read/write speeds are about 10mb/s

the specs are pretty good. just the drive is slow

[solar kestrel]

[near rune]

what are ur specs

[supple bane]

6th gen i5, 8gb ram

its not my main rig btw lol

i dont daily drive it

[solar kestrel]

Put 16 in it

[supple bane]

nah

[near rune]

i have some samsung nvme on my laptop

[supple bane]

pointless

[near rune]

1tb

[solar kestrel]

[near rune]

16 isnt pointless

im using 8gb basicly all the time

[supple bane]

it is for me

[solar kestrel]

It’s 16

Like a 60 dollar upgrade

That’s like 3 lawns mowed

[supple bane]

a 60 dollar upgrade for no benefit

[solar kestrel]

Or 10 hours of working at mc Donald’s

[supple bane]

i dont game on it or anything lol

[solar kestrel]

Ohh

[supple bane]

the most demanding thing i do on it is word documents

i said it wasnt my main rig

my pc has 16gb of ram

[near rune]

whyd you have a laptop then

[supple bane]

the same reason everyone has a laptop

in case i need to do something on the go

[near rune]

hm alr

[solar kestrel]

Why do y’all need a 970 for word

[near rune]

hdd in laptop is just

no

youll need to buy a new one every 6 months

[solar kestrel]

I have a hard drive and was downloading stuff at 29 mbs peak

I’m assuming if I had a sad I could download faster?

Ssd

[supple bane]

if you have an ssd you can do anything faster lol

[solar kestrel]

That’s what I thought

[supple bane]

my laptop takes like 2 minutes at least to get into a usable state on startup

i hate it

[solar kestrel]

So assuming I downloaded at 5mbs max at my house

[near rune]

my boot time with fast boot on is like 2 seconds

2 to 3

[solar kestrel]

[modern gull]

I have that turned off

[quaint topaz]

LOOK AT THAT TOP TIER CABLE WORK

Glad there's a door so I don't feel so bad due to my poor attempt at cable management

[supple bane]

lol nice

do you have to sit on the sidepanel to close it like an over packed suitcase ?

[quaint topaz]

Nope

[supple bane]

well thats good

[quaint topaz]

Unlike my old case

Where the side panel is literally bent

:))

Think I'll stick to corsair. Good build quality and amazing software

Looking at you, nzxt

[supple bane]

the 5000d does look very good

[quaint topaz]

It's huge

[supple bane]

i think id get the 4000d if i had the choice

did you get the airflow or normal version?

[polar thorn]

Hello, anyone who can help me? i got BF4 on steam but it takes way to long to join a server and while loading the map the audio is bugging out as well. i got the game installed on a SSD and i got a 2070 and Ryzen 3600 so it really shouldnt take this long

[quaint topaz]

@supple bane airflow

[supple bane]

good good

[quaint topaz]

My S340 Elite was a dust magnet

And it suffocates my gpu

Thing went up to 90° playing OVERWATCH

[supple bane]

jeez

welcome to nzxt i guess

[quaint topaz]

Nzxt products look good but unfortunately don't deliver great performance.

[storm osprey]

nzxt really are stuck in the past

at least for cases

[quaint topaz]

Plus I can now have an entire concert in my pc

[storm osprey]

then they made the h1 which seemed like a good step in the right direction, then they fucked that up with fire hazards

[quaint topaz]

NZXT lost me after their XMP warranty void bullshit.

While they advertise XMP support.

[zinc nexus]

i got a 3070

if you live in the us

Try to go to market center

I got a hookup

[quaint topaz]

30 series cards aren't even listed in stores where I live lol

I got a free 2080 Ti which is still performing quite well, no surprise there. Probably upgrading in 2 years

Have a year left on its warranty

Founders edition though

[supple bane]

my plan originally was to get a 4070 on launch. now im probably going to wait for the later models, hopefully they do a 4070 super or something along those lines a few years after launch

[quaint topaz]

30 series cards don't exist and this guy here planning on getting a 40 series

[supple bane]

yeah boi

[quaint topaz]

But yeah, sounds like what I would probably do

[supple bane]

i have a 2070 so i still got a long time before its bad

[modern gull]

3060 and 3070 are avalible to buy here. Got my 3070 1 month after i ordered it. 3080 is basicaly non existent 3090 have a decent stock.

[storm osprey]

ive still not seen anything stay in stock for more than a few hours here

[modern gull]

Probably the notorious scalpers

[storm osprey]

a few hours is generous too, ive noticed things last an hour tops

[modern gull]

lul

Some webshops here basicaly increased prices alot. Like you pay 3070 prices for 3060 and soo on

This is like higher price than 3070 at the start. maybe like 200-400 USD over 3070 MSRP

[turbid verge]

still can't get a 3070

[modern gull]

[turbid verge]

still trying to lol

[storm osprey]

i personally dont consider obviously scalped products to be in stock

[turbid verge]

but for a decent price not some overpriced shit

[modern gull]

Ya dont support overpriced prices

[digital hill]

I agree

looking on r/hardwareswap people are selling 800 for a fucking rtx 3060

[modern gull]

I payed about 900 USD for my 3070

I just found out

[digital hill]

and spoke to someone about 400-500 dollar for rtx 3060 he has people wanting to buy them for $775

da fuck how isn't that scalping

[modern gull]

lul

Payed about 7400 NOK for the 3070

isnt that 400 usd over msrp?

[turbid verge]

yes

sorta

depends on the model I guess

[modern gull]

3070

[turbid verge]

which model

or brand

[modern gull]

Nvm it was 7190 NOK

849,86 usd then

[turbid verge]

700€

[modern gull]

GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3070 Eagle OC

[turbid verge]

ah ok not bad

triple fan

[modern gull]

https://tenor.com/view/wind-windy-gif-14972041

[quick locust]

when you have delta fans

[modern gull]

FE cards those are supposed to be 500 usd msrp right?

[modern gull]

lul

[quick locust]

ye 3070 FE is 500 usd msrp

Pre-tax

[modern gull]

I see

[quick locust]

100 usd above 3060 ti

[lavish lion]

Anyone know any good aio coolers?

[supple bane]

i say this to most people

they all basically perform the same

go for what ever fits your budget and you like how it looks basically

[lavish lion]

👍

Ok

Thx

Amigo

[storm osprey]

@lavish lion cpu?

[modern gull]

Looks pretty nice

Is that like a lego bonsai tree?

[lavish lion]

Intel i5 11th gen

[storm osprey]

region?

[lavish lion]

NA

Intel better value and more available

Cheaper than the Ryzen 5 5600x

[storm osprey]

11400 or 11600k?

[lavish lion]

11600k

[quaint topaz]

@modern gull it is

[storm osprey]

hmm, it would be hard for me to pass up the evga clc 240 at 70 bucks, though this thing can get loud depending on your temps

theres basically no concern towards acoustics for thermals with this one

cm masterliquid ml240 is a good option if you want budget rgb aio, though idk how this performs in general, i just know its pretty popular

other considerations after that would be bequit pure loop, cryorig a40(utlimate), and msi mag coreliquid

@lavish lion see above

[lavish lion]

I see it

🙂

[storm osprey]

normally i shill the arctic liquidfreezer ii line, but its commonly OOS

i returned my evga clc 240 for an arctic liquidfreezer 240 and its a huge difference in acoustics and slightly cooler too

[lavish lion]

Ik some people recommend me the arctic cool aio

I’m considering about getting one

[storm osprey]

i personally got the arctic cooler and a 5 pack of arctic p12 fans and its great

if you can fit a 280mm rad thats in stock for 115

[lavish lion]

Nice 3080

[storm osprey]

i got stupid lucky with that

[lavish lion]

I almost got a 6700xt

But the website crash as I was checking out

[storm osprey]

lol yea, its rough

i thankfully had a team of roughly 5 people working together to get each other computer parts

[lavish lion]

Wish I had 5 people

Only me and my brother were trying to get it

[storm osprey]

together monke strong

[lavish lion]

Yup

Newegg has it for an arm and a leg

[storm osprey]

a 3080?

likely a 3rd party seller scalping

[lavish lion]

No the 6700xt

Yea 3rd party

[storm osprey]

ahh, yea this scenario sucks, i would be raging if i didnt get a 3080

march 2020 i told myself i needed to upgrade and would get a new gpu at launch no matter what

then.. you know what happened xD

[lavish lion]

I don’t have a pc yet

I was hoping to build it this year

[storm osprey]

ooof that one really hurts

do you have any components yet?

[lavish lion]

I have a rx560

That’s it

[quick locust]

Most components should be easy enough except gpu and high watt psu

[lavish lion]

And ryzen cpus

[storm osprey]

i would probably get an 11400 for a 6700xt rather than an 11600k

[quick locust]

ryzen cpus have become easier to get

except 5900X

[lavish lion]

Really

[storm osprey]

personally if i were looking at 11600k prices i would go for 5600x

then theres 10th gen intels which last i saw a 10600k was 200, which is pretty damn good

though all of this really changes the day you actually decide to purchase

[lavish lion]

Ok

[quick locust]

Stores here list expected 3080 delivery dates in september

But thats just a guess from them

[storm osprey]

september?!

[lavish lion]

Bruh September

[quick locust]

ye

[storm osprey]

shid, when do you think youll actually start making purchases?

[modern gull]

Oh interesting

[quick locust]

theres a few gpus in stock but heavily overpriced

[storm osprey]

can you imagine being rich and or desperate enough to pay scalped prices...

must be nice

[modern gull]

Isnt that like around the same price 3060 should sell at?

[quick locust]

its a bit more than 3060 ti

close to 3070 actually

[modern gull]

Damn

DKK is also worth more than NOK when i think of it

[storm osprey]

you can get a 6900xt for the price of an msrp 3070?

[fallow garden]

damn screen tearing ruins gaming experience.... so does vsync when it’s turned on

[storm osprey]

xsync ftw

[fallow garden]

What

wym @storm osprey

[storm osprey]

freesync or gsync

[quick locust]

what

[storm osprey]

im confused what your screenshots were for...

[fallow garden]

Poc: I have samsung monitor that doesn’t have gsync/freesync

[storm osprey]

idk what poc is other than person of color...

[fallow garden]

if we think about it...gsync/freesync is actually sooo good and needed like u can’t play without it

[modern gull]

I am wondering what the ram amount and cpu would be recommended for the next battlefield

Maybe recomendation will hit 16gb ram no DXR, hmm...

[modern gull]

I have freesync on my monitor but only HDMI

[fallow garden]

bro u lucky

U got free sync bro

[modern gull]

Why is that lucky? lul

[fallow garden]

Free sync

[modern gull]

I cant use it

[fallow garden]

That’s what I wish I had frfr

[fallow garden]

why

[modern gull]

I have nvidia gpu

[fallow garden]

Lol

ayoo that actually suck

[modern gull]

And it only works with free sync if DP

[quick locust]

1660 super for 3070 msrp @storm osprey

[modern gull]

[quick locust]

with the 6900xt being like 3K usd

[fallow garden]

also speaking of HDMI, wasup w it? what’s bad, do u have 4k monitor or something

[storm osprey]

ahhh, gotcha, you posted 2 images and i didnt notice the 2nd was a 1660 super

[modern gull]

Its the nvidia drivers or something

If i had amd i am sure it would work

[quick locust]

freesync over hdmi is proprietary to AMD

[modern gull]

[quick locust]

DP they can both use it

but my monitor is G-sync 😛

[modern gull]

Mhm nvidia only works trough dp apparantly

[modern gull]

[quick locust]

2560x1440 165 Hz

[modern gull]

Maybe i could get it to work with moded drivers or something

[quick locust]

😎

I doubt

[modern gull]

1080p 75hz

[quick locust]

It's proprietary to AMD

[supple bane]

Wait wait wait

You have a 1080p 75hz monitor

[modern gull]

[supple bane]

With a 3070?!

[modern gull]

Mhm

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[modern gull]

Whats the issue?

[supple bane]

Wdym whats the issue

[modern gull]

[supple bane]

You have spent so much on a gpu

To not utilise the benefits

[quick locust]

AMD owns the tech for freesync over hdmi @modern gull

[modern gull]

Ah ya i see fair enough

[supple bane]

You could have the exact same experience as what you are getting with a 1070

[modern gull]

Ofc i do get benefits

[quick locust]

I think nvidia might be able to use VRR on 2.1? But not sure

[supple bane]

How tho

I guess if you are playing with raytracing on

[modern gull]

Ya think i actually read something like thatg

[modern gull]

Both

Fast enough cpu and you get extra fps

Also its kind of future proofing anyways. Maybe in 5 years all games run at 100% on 75 fps

[supple bane]

Yeah but there is little point having the extra fps when you can't see it

[storm osprey]

or you could have spend 250 now and 250 in the future and get better performance in the future

[modern gull]

Well, no point in upgrading over and over 😛

[storm osprey]

.. but there is

[modern gull]

On what tho?

[storm osprey]

gpu one of the easiest upgrades too

[supple bane]

Yanno you can get a 1080p 144hz monitor for like, nothing right ?

You should pick one up

Like 200 pounds

[modern gull]

I just bought this 75 hz one

at the same time i bought the 3070

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[modern gull]

[storm osprey]

i would have spent less on the gpu and got a better monitor

[supple bane]

Like I said, other than ray tracing you could have gotten a 1070 and had the same experience

[lavish lion]

Bruh a 75hz

[modern gull]

Thats what i upgraded from man. How come its like an issue tho?

[storm osprey]

144hz for reaction based games really is a worth while step up

[lavish lion]

I got a 240hz 1080p

By zowie with dyac

[storm osprey]

your monitor is a portal to your game, with a 3070 on a 1080p 75hz monitor you are nearly wasting a ton of the 3070s performance

[supple bane]

Its not an issue

Its just a waste

[storm osprey]

is it a "issue"? no

[modern gull]

I know for a fact if i had higher hz monitor i'd probably always would want to keep that fps. It would just end up with me needing to turn down graphics settings.

[storm osprey]

its just a mismatch of hardware

[modern gull]

Lol but why?

I dont get it

[storm osprey]

because a 3070 is overkill for 1080p 75hz

[modern gull]

WHY? lul

[supple bane]

^

[lavish lion]

When you get a beefy graphics card you need to also get a better monitor

[modern gull]

[lavish lion]

You must balance it

[quick locust]

[supple bane]

Because let's say in bfv, a 3070 would easily get 150-200 fps on 1080p ultra

[lavish lion]

There is a thing called bottleneck on monitors

[supple bane]

But you are limited to 75

[storm osprey]

ill simplify this, a 3070 is a mid/high end card, a 1080p 75hz monitor is a low end monitor

[lavish lion]

Too

[supple bane]

So whaga the point in having a 3070

[modern gull]

Yes i can see what you are saying. But i wont play bf5 the next years will i

[supple bane]

Its not just bfv

Its every game

You play siege, thats a massive one

[modern gull]

I completly understand what you are saying, but are you understanding me tho?

[supple bane]

I play at 1440p ultra and get 100 ish fps, so a 3070 on 1080p will vomit frames, but you are stuck on 75

No not really lol

[modern gull]

Ah ok lul

[storm osprey]

no i dont understand

[lavish lion]

@modern gull you should get a 1440p monitor 144hz either gigabyte m27q or benq mobiuz

[modern gull]

[lavish lion]

Wait benq mobiuz is 1080p

[supple bane]

Not really

You still play on max settings

And just enjoy the fps you get

Even if you get 100 fps on ultra, thats a nice advantage over a 75hz monitor

[storm osprey]

with a 3070 most games you would be getting 144fps at 1080p

maybe not ULTRA EVERYTHING

[modern gull]

Many games.

[storm osprey]

its just a huge mismatch in hardware and that bothers people that want to make balanced builds

[modern gull]

I would want max graphics and monitor refresh rate then i am happy.

[storm osprey]

you might have you reason for it being mismatched, its still gonna bother most people though

[modern gull]

If you say soo

[fallow garden]

I have 60hz monitor

[modern gull]

Its just the fact i am not using high hz monitor

[supple bane]

You have a 1060 tho

[fallow garden]

Ye

wtf u know

[supple bane]

So its not so bad

[fallow garden]

lol

[storm osprey]

i can guarantee 99% of people that have a reasonable amount of knowledge in pc builds would say that a 3070 and 1080p/75hz monitor is a mismatch

[supple bane]

I know everyone's specs

Its my super power

[modern gull]

Can you guys come to gen2 in a few minutes? it would be easier for me to explain by voice.

[supple bane]

I can't rn

[storm osprey]

im at work

[fallow garden]

I’ve OCed it to 75hz, but when I use the 75hz, colors are sus and yeah there’s like green dots flickering on the screen, i’d rather stay at 60hz with normal colors

[modern gull]

Ah its fine. I just wanted to explain why, maybe you get a different perspective on it

[supple bane]

Its your setup 🤷

Pc master race isn't about specs and numbers, it's about respect

As long as you respect ya hardware, I'm happy

[modern gull]

I am not using high hz monitor cause i want to play at max graphics longer and without the feeling i need to play at 144hz constantly.

If i had high hz monitor like i explained earlier it would probably end up with me wanting that fps constantly

[fallow garden]

When I OCed from 60 to 75hz I instantly felt huge difference lmao, 144 would be nuts for me

[supple bane]

Yes

60 to 75 is a massive jump

In feeling

[fallow garden]

Cant tell if u joking

[modern gull]

Ya its nice

[supple bane]

Its bigger than the jump from 75 to 144

[fallow garden]

Cap??

[supple bane]

No I'm serious

[fallow garden]

lol

[modern gull]

[supple bane]

I've played on all 3

[fallow garden]

the thing is it sucks when u OC ur monitor to higher hz bc colors get fked up

[supple bane]

In something like valorant, going from 144 to 60 is unplayable basically, but going from 144 to 75 is somewhat fine

[modern gull]

I always played on 60hz so was actually thinking of getting a 60hz one instead of 75. But i wanted bit more fps cause i know it looks nice and all. I tried my friends 144hz monitor and i was sold

[modern gull]

Interesting