technology

[agile quartz]

My platoon cant be found at all for some people, is this because it was created through the app?

Could creating it through the in-game Battlefield 'platoons' section fix this?

[weak girder]

[fallen harbor]

the heck's a battlefield companion app?

[agile quartz]

Its available for Android and Apple

You can see progression (BF4 and BF1), manage platoons and see friends

[fallen harbor]

oh like battlelog ig

[agile quartz]

It doesn't really support BFV, but you can still use the platoon section

[orchid folio]

[digital hill]

well I'm off to watch south park

[solar kestrel]

[fallen harbor]

wish that were me

am i the only person with a job here

[opaque saddle]

@fallen harbor you considering working holiday?

[fallen harbor]

what?

wdym

[opaque saddle]

working holiday visa

like working overseas

[fallen harbor]

oh

[opaque saddle]

earn great money

[fallen harbor]

y-yeah but

why

[opaque saddle]

nah, coz i know the pc part prices are too high in your country

[fallen harbor]

ah yeah but thats not the reason why id do that

not the main reason at least

[vale shadow]

So ive cloned my hard drive with my os on it. Its working perfectly no issues at all. Really satisfied. If anyone wants to know I´ve used minitool wizard partition 9.1 version. The newer one is not for free.

[prime jasper]

How many more GB do my GPU get if I install rgb?

[solar kestrel]

20+

[prime jasper]

Thx

[raw turtle]

15-20 terashits

[prime jasper]

Just ordered rgb fans I hope I get some fps boost

My friends told me it should work

[proud trellis]

i cant tell if ur joking or fr

[solar kestrel]

there joking

from BFEE

i think

i think ive seen them on BFEE

[prime jasper]

Wait does it not work?

Just ordered fans for 150$

[proud trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[solar kestrel]

christ

!jumbo

[proud trellis]

double uhhh

[storm osprey]

arctic p12 gang gratata

[prime jasper]

Haha nah but tbh I saw once a guy someone actually fooled

[solar kestrel]

[digital hill]

cheap noctua fans gang

[raw turtle]

Noctua fans look like dog poop smeared on a ceramic plate

[storm osprey]

fairly accurate statement

[quick locust]

They do have other colours

https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15-chromax-black

https://noctua.at/en/nf-a12x15-pwm-chromax-black-swap

[quick locust]

yeah saw

con of AM4 cpus lol

[opaque saddle]

You know people are meant to heat up their system before removing it

[storm osprey]

hmm, cant say ive ever particularly done that

not that im pulling apart cpu/cpu coolers commonly though

[latent light]

Never done that with any PGA socket

Seems like the default thermal paste that comes preapplied with AMD stock coolers does it the worst tho

[opaque saddle]

The thermo paste on Stock cooler yeah

[quick locust]

I've only ever used LGA so haven't had it happen to me

[opaque saddle]

You know the PGA intel processors tho

[quick locust]

Yeah

[opaque saddle]

I was using those back then

[latent light]

I've got a PGA Intel CPU

[opaque saddle]

I think mine was Pentium 4

[quick locust]

buy an LGA amd cpu

aka TR or epyc

[latent light]

Threadripper

[modern gull]

The cpu is stuck on the cooler?

[opaque saddle]

Can’t remember which model was it, since they didn’t name it

No point of getting threadripper coz the top of the range r7 can do 70% of it

[quick locust]

dual epyc

[opaque saddle]

I made so many typos

Damn

[quick locust]

Which btw, Milan is announced in 4 days afaik

EPYC 7643, EPYC 7663 and EPYC 7763

the 48 core seems equal to the current 64 core in multicore

[latent light]

Yep

[quick locust]

gimme dual Epyc 7763

[digital hill]

@modern gull Yeah its an image I stole off reddit

[latent light]

Epyc Genoa is gonna be the real enchilada

96 cores

[quick locust]

I wonder how Genoa will compare to Mystique

[latent light]

AVX-512 and BFLOAT16 instructions

[turbid verge]

you can't even buy an EPYC CPU

[latent light]

Xeon is in a pickle

[turbid verge]

[quick locust]

you can buy them

just expensive

[turbid verge]

the lower end you can

[quick locust]

you can even buy POWER cpus if you wanted to

[turbid verge]

the high end they dont sell it for the avg consumers

its mostly for enterprise kind of processing

[modern gull]

lul how does that happend, did they welded it or something?

[quick locust]

yeah i totally can't buy them

[turbid verge]

I mean sure go for it

[quick locust]

sure, gimme a few thousaind dollars

[turbid verge]

having a store to have access to EPYC cpu's is rare

most end up in data centers or as processing units for companies

[quick locust]

I know, but you can still buy them like this

[turbid verge]

I mean Iam not even surprised its in denmark

[quick locust]

the 7702P is 5200 usd before tax here

[turbid verge]

since denmarks capital is beyond different from most EU countries

[quick locust]

well i am danish so i just searched it

[turbid verge]

yeh most of EU stores just tell you to go look somewhere else

[quick locust]

can buy xeons as well

[turbid verge]

eh I mean xeons you can buy them anywhere tbh

[quick locust]

a lot of the xeons seem to be out of stock though for some reason

[turbid verge]

since they're the most common used if you wanna build yourself a server

[turbid verge]

xeons are good ngl

[quick locust]

not compared to epyc and ampere

and mystique will destroy them even more lul

Although they both have lower production than intel does

iirc

[turbid verge]

from my time building some server rackets most partner prefer intel over amd, literally 8 out 10 was intel xeons into it

both for data storage or for data processing

[quick locust]

hm ryzen 3100 is in stock, those arent in stock that much

and yeah i know, intel has majority

[turbid verge]

depends from customer from customer

some ask pre selected parts

some just say whats best over performance price and warranty

[quick locust]

i dunno why amd made this one though

other than for market segmentation for SIs or something

is the same price as 3600

then again intel has the 10400 and the 10500 which is nearly same cpu

[fallen harbor]

10400 is a bit faster than 3600

[quick locust]

i meant 10400 compared to 10500

[storm osprey]

in gaming alone i think they are within 1% eachother

[fallen harbor]

idk isnt the 10400 0,20ghz faster

it isnt a lot but i imagine it's more than 1%

[storm osprey]

thats only like... one part of many that decide a cpus performance

nvm, seems like its 5% faster

which.. is still not a lot, the main point here is that 10400 is cheaper

[hushed jolt]

hey everyone, i have a question regarding battlefield 1's performance. I bought the game today and played a couple matches, but the performance was pretty weird. I would get about 50 fps with a lot of frame dops on max graphics and lowering settings didnt really do anything. Are there any settings is should turn down/off to increase performance? I still want to have some good graphics while playing the game. Keep in mind my computer can run red dead redemption 2 on 50/60 fps on max settings

[fallen harbor]

what are your platform specs?

@hushed jolt

[hushed jolt]

lemme look

processor is a intel i5 9400 cpu

8gb ram

gpu is a nvidia geforce 1660ti

[fallen harbor]

and graphics card?

ah ok

are you running any other background softwares while you play?

like chrome/firefox or any explorer

or whatever

[hushed jolt]

just discord

nothing else

no downloads or anything

[fallen harbor]

does your hdd/sdd have the enough free space needed?

[hushed jolt]

yeah

im playing on a hdd tho

[fallen harbor]

thats fine

as long as you have at least 50gb free space iirc

your cpu and gpu are more than enough for the game. Your ram is tight though, but it shouldnt make your game stutter

maybe i'd suggest disabling DX12 if you haven't yet

[hushed jolt]

im playing with dx10 i think

[fallen harbor]

also make sure your resolution scale is 100%

the game doesnt support dx10 iirc, only 11 and 12

[hushed jolt]

mightve been 105% so ill check it

[hushed jolt]

oh then its probably something else

[fallen harbor]

you can try disabling "origin in-game" from the origin client

it causes stutter in some pcs

[hushed jolt]

oh yes i should do that

alright, thanks for helping!

[fallen harbor]

np, let us know if the problem still persists

[latent light]

https://youtu.be/JLEIJhunaW8

Interesting findings

[strong breach]

so basically CS:GO, League of Legends and Valorant

and maybe Rainbow 6 siege

can't think of any more games that are CPU limited and from AAA publishers

[latent light]

The return of a king

The 5700XT

TL:DR - Radeon is faster than Nvidia in CPU limited games and with low-end CPUs in general

Basically Nvidia software has too much useless shit in it that takes up pointless utilization of the CPU

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsYUKQyNGwM&ab_channel=ServeTheHome

32 fans that spin at 29000 rpm

18 TB ram

[vale shadow]

what happend to his eye lol

[modern gull]

Didn't he get roughed up by nvidia?

[latent light]

Jensen didn't like what he had to say in the video about driver overhead

[modern gull]

ngl that is sad those nvidia drivers

Nvidia wont fix this in the near future i assume?

they got hotfix for every driver these days btw

[quick locust]

lol

1.6 kW for a system with no gpus and minimum amount of ram

[thick grail]

Ram = storage

[latent light]

Somewhere in Q2 of this year AMD could announce: FidelityFX Super Resolution, Rembrandt, Zen 3 refresh, RDNA2 refresh

[thick grail]

What’s the difference between the cpu and gpu

And what do they stand for

[quick locust]

no

only very short term

[thick grail]

😔 what does it do then

[quick locust]

RAM contains the data that the programs/OS that is running needs right now

Very quick access essentially

To your cpu, the central processing unit that does nearly all calculations needed in your pc

long term storage is ssds and hdds

[supple bane]

Programs are made of thousands of tiny and simple logic equations called instructions. These are what make up a program and the cpu calculates and finds the value to these instructions. Ram is super high speed memory that stores upcoming, running, frequently used, or required instructions for the cpu to execute. The cpu goes through something called the fetch execute cycle which is fetch the instruction from ram, decode the instruction, execute the instruction and output the value

[thick grail]

Oh so ram is like the most important thing

[supple bane]

In terms of computer responsiveness? Not really.

[quick locust]

Mostly matters that you have enough

[latent light]

Would be cool if we could install OS on RAM

[quick locust]

You can

[supple bane]

Because the instructions still need to come at some point from the non volatile secondary storage (hard drive) and that's basically where the "waiting for programs to load" comes from

Files being pulled from the hard drive to the ram

[latent light]

Won't it erase when you turn off pc

[supple bane]

Yes

Ram is volatile

[quick locust]

Tails OS works this way

Leaving little evidence

But you can do it with most OS

You can also do it on vram

If you wanted to

[supple bane]

How tho?

[latent light]

If Windows 10 was installed on RAM wouldn't it be way snappier than an SSD

[quick locust]

yes and no

a lot of stuff in windows is still single threaded so that will be a limit

@supple bane RAMDisks

[supple bane]

If you had every program installed on ram, it would load faster but not run faster

[supple bane]

But its a physical limitation of ram tho, it has no way to store values after a loss of power

[latent light]

What if motherboards had OS ROM storage built-in

[digital hill]

Impossible

you need an ssd on it

[quick locust]

@supple bane Yes, although some servers use optane for persistency layer

[latent light]

Make motherboards with integrated SSDs built-in

[digital hill]

Yes but problems is what if the ssd fails

[quick locust]

You can install it in ram, no ssd needed if youre going that way lul

[latent light]

Solder on a new one

[digital hill]

Mac OS had rom chips and well it was removable

[supple bane]

Well I guess servers wouldn't shutdown do thats not really an issue in that case

[quick locust]

Even if you did they'd have that to save it

[supple bane]

And if they do like you said, they have secondary storage there just in case

[quick locust]

Most servers would lose what is loaded in ram

Just that some newer has optane persistency

https://www.provantage.com/intel-nma1xxd512gpsu4~7ITE9323.htm

the 2019 module

lol

[supple bane]

Oh so its an actuall dimm stick, not just an ssd

[quick locust]

yeah

cheaper than dram but slower with more latency

but much faster than other ssds

[latent light]

The integrated memory controllers on Intel 11th gen Rocket-Lake CPUs are gimped heavily, leading to insane cache degradation

[quick locust]

yeah I know

11th gen is a weird step

but 12 th comes soon

[latent light]

12th gen also only goes to 8 performance cores

[quick locust]

yeah

[supple bane]

When is 11th launching again?

[quick locust]

plus who knows what shenanigans windows will do about it

[latent light]

Windows 10 is not built around utilizing different types of CPU architectures in one SoC and the core scheduler would require a lot of work to make it somewhat efficient

12th gen seems to be focused around Windows 10X imo

[quick locust]

@supple bane A weeks time iirc

[supple bane]

Wat

I've literally heard no real news about them at all

And it was only last summer 10th gen launched

[quick locust]

March 30th i think

so two weeks

[supple bane]

Thats insane

[quick locust]

12th gen is late 2021

[supple bane]

Every generation intel is falling further and further off the map it feels

[quick locust]

@latent light would do fine in bsd and linux

AMDs milan is in 4 days

On monday

Though I dunno how much supply issue there will be for them

[supple bane]

Milan?

[quick locust]

yeah

EPYC milan

server

[supple bane]

Oh

Oh so they actually are calling their processors after places

Last was epyc Rome right

[quick locust]

yeah

[supple bane]

Can't wait for epyc birmingham

[quick locust]

next is genoa

[supple bane]

Seems they are only interested in Italy

Id love to hear the story behind that

[supple bane]

"Lets name the most powerful cpu's in the world after cities in Italy"

Wonder if we will see more than 64 cores this time

96 cores on a single socket

[quick locust]

Not on milan

48, 56 and 64

but the 48 core performs like the current 64 core in multicore

[supple bane]

Dang

I don't keep up with server releases, but did intel ever manage to make something that out performs the 7742?

[quick locust]

but its quad

[supple bane]

I've never heard any of those names :)

[quick locust]

epyc then ampere then xeon

[supple bane]

I always was under the assumption the 64 core epyc cpu was the most powerful server cpu, with the 3990x taking desktop

[quick locust]

7H12 is 64 core

there are multiple

[supple bane]

Wait that doesn't make sense because the 3990x is also 64 core, but higher clock speeds

Infact iirc the 3990x was identical just less pcie lanes, less ram capacity etc

But a higher xlockspeed

[quick locust]

yeah less features but higher clock

and it uses chipset which epyc doesnt

@supple bane

On monday we'll see how milan does

lul

[latent light]

About 25% faster per-core performance

AMD RX 6600M spotted in a laptop, 28 compute units and 50W TDP

[turbid verge]

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-nvidia-cmp-crypto-mining-processor-has-been-pictured

86MH/s lmao

thats less then the 3080

[wide relic]

WOAH

thats nice

i play bfv with a 1050ti

and i put it into a 2005 office dell pc

No cap

[weak girder]

what settings and fps do you get?

[wide relic]

I think like 55-60 fps

[weak girder]

what settings?

[wide relic]

default settings

[weak girder]

[wide relic]

i only change the controls a bit

[weak girder]

low, medium, high?

[wide relic]

let me check that rn

medium

[weak girder]

oh

[wide relic]

I only had lag issues before but i fixed the internet

so gameplay is smooth with not much issues

[torpid kelp]

Wow

[digital hill]

Wow look at the value

[solar kestrel]

[latent light]

Value king

[onyx iris]

2 CORES! OMG

I NEED THAT'

[opaque saddle]

I have the Athlon X2 4000+ inside the storage box at my parent’s place

[digital hill]

I ordered more storage

[opaque saddle]

I paid for 70USD (including tax) for this 4TB drive

Coz it is a barracuda drive inside Seagate expansion desktop. I cracked that open

[digital hill]

taxes made this like 89

[opaque saddle]

So I saved money but I have lost the 3 years warranty

[digital hill]

[near rune]

Ok first of all 25 bucks is alot for that if its new

But its refurbished

[opaque saddle]

GT710 can be slower than the iGPU from the CPU

[ancient ridge]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/175940700630004/

cringe?

[quick locust]

Its not the gpu most likely

Either background task messing with your cpu or just some maps being too hard on the cpu

[weak girder]

open task manager and check your cpu usage

while playing the game

and quit any problematic task eating it all up

[quick locust]

like xbox game bar

lol

[weak girder]

not rly

[quick locust]

That can really tax the cpu in games when its doing background recording

[weak girder]

sometimes service host diagnostic policy can eat up 25% of my cpu

[quick locust]

Its just one of the background programs that can do it

[weak girder]

so I just quit it and gain a lot more fps

[quick locust]

An example

[weak girder]

yeah

[peak kayak]

Rx 570 decent for battlefield 1 right ultra

[weak girder]

yes

[peak kayak]

ok

[prime jasper]

is battlefield v a cpu intensive game? people with the same gpu as mine can get up to 70 fps on ultra, but i only get 30-40 fps on medium

[weak girder]

its probably one of the most cpu intensive games out there lol

[supple bane]

As far as I'm aware it may actually be

Flight simulator is in close competition, but that just needs SCP flowing out the asshole

It doesn't care about core count like bfv

[prime jasper]

okay, i just bumped my settings up to ultra and it's more playable now

still 30-40 but less stutters overall

[supple bane]

Specs? @prime jasper

[prime jasper]

1050 ti
i3 3220
12gb ram

[near rune]

3rd gen ouch

[prime jasper]

yeah..

[near rune]

thats pretty old

only a dual core aswell

[prime jasper]

came with my dad's work pc lol.. like ive built a pc straight out of a junk pile

[near rune]

its not bad tbh

if you got it for free

or for a really low price

[prime jasper]

I got it for cheap a few years ago. I was mostly a ps4 player

[fallen harbor]

your gpu is more than enough for any bf game

but yeah that cpu

just to give you an idea even the i3 6100 struggles to reach 60fps in bf1 and bfv

i think you can only expect to have stable 60fps up to bf4 if you use dual core

bf games are cpu intensive but that doesnt mean you need a high end cpu either

just a decent 4 core cpu will do 60fps and a bit more

i have an i5 8400 (6c) and i get like 90fps on high settings on bfv

and that isn't even high end

[cloud sphinx]

I have an i5 4460 with 4 cores and i'm playing in 45-55 fps

[fallen harbor]

i wouldnt say the 4460 qualifies as decent for today standards

[cloud sphinx]

Agree

[fallen harbor]

an old but still decent quad core would probably be the i7 3770

or smthn like that

i mean the 4460 will still allow you to play any modern game anyway

so its actually not bad if you think of it that way

but its not good if you want very fluent experience in demanding and competitive games

but im sure you get more than 100fps or 150fps on valorant and cs

[cloud sphinx]

I'm trying to find a i7 3770 but it's just unable to find it in my country

[fallen harbor]

and ow

[cloud sphinx]

Yeah dude

[fallen harbor]

im sure you could get something more modern of similar power for a cheap price

[cloud sphinx]

I hage a B85 and it will take more money to change motherboard

[fallen harbor]

as far as im aware the i3 9100f is stronger than the i7 3770

[fallen harbor]

oh yeah and the ram

[cloud sphinx]

Once i saw i5 4690k

But it's cost was 3 times bigger than for i7 3770

[fallen harbor]

f

[opaque saddle]

I think 9100f is quite a bit stronger than 3770

[fallen harbor]

ye

[opaque saddle]

New architecture

I think maybe 30-40% in real test

[near rune]

Well obviously going from 3rd gen to 9th gen

[fallen harbor]

the only thing that the 3770 has that the 9100f doesnt is 8 threads but thats of very little importance

if any at all

[opaque saddle]

Single thread performance means a lot actually

[fallen harbor]

after all i think the 3770 max clock speed is 3,90ghz

or 3,80

when the 9100 is 4,20

but yeah also lots of new architecture detalis

the 9100f is a very good cpu for its price if u ask me

unless u wanna go full rgb pc gaymer

[opaque saddle]

No

No RGB

[solar kestrel]

but rgb gives me more fps

[near rune]

Well prob less because it eats power

Not much but some

[supple bane]

Yes you are very cpu bottlenecked.

4 core cpus will get ruined by bfv, very stuttery, and that's a 2 core

[prime jasper]

welp time to get a job

[fallen harbor]

it do be like that

[fast python]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-1/Community-servers-under-attack/m-p/10153255

[hushed jolt]

the performance is so fucked up

the performance is so broken it should be way better

my pc is really good i shouldnt have stuttering on medium settings

[weak girder]

well what cpu do you have

and did you try future frame rendering on

[hushed jolt]

how do i turn future frame rendering on

[weak girder]

its in advanced options

for graphics settings

[weak girder]

but what is your cpu?

and also turn dx12 off

it causes stuttering

[hushed jolt]

intel core i5

[weak girder]

which gen

and exact model

[hushed jolt]

9400

intel r

core

[weak girder]

hmm

do you have dx12 off and future frame rendering on

[hushed jolt]

should i have it in fullscreen instead of borderless

i have dx12 off

but i dont see future frame rendering anywhere

[storm osprey]

fullscreen gives better fps

[weak girder]

its over vsync

above

[hushed jolt]

that shows brightness

[weak girder]

just dm me a screenshot of the whole advanced

[green lintel]

How can i be a ISP in my area ?

[hushed jolt]

there is something very wrong

i should be able to run this game 60 fps max settings

but now i have 10 fps on medium

it keeps getting worse

there is something very very wrong

[proud trellis]

on BFV ?

or...

[hushed jolt]

battlefield 1

my specs are more than enough to run it

[proud trellis]

oh BF1

what is your resolution

[hushed jolt]

1920 1080

144hz

fullscreen

[green lintel]

@hushed jolt are you sure that you're using your graphic card and not microsoft basic ?

That problem happened to me ones

[hushed jolt]

its using my graphics card im pretty sure

[green lintel]

Ok

[hushed jolt]

oh my god i only gget 250kb ps wifi

my wifi is just broken

wait how do i make sure im using the graphics card

cuz it might be using something else

[green lintel]

Msi afterburner

[hushed jolt]

??????????

[green lintel]

It's an application that you can download for free

It can detect your gpu and cpu and ram

[near rune]

He doesnt mean that

@hushed jolt do you have an nvidia card?

With nvidia drivers

If so go to nvidia control panel > 3d settings > select the application and see if it runs on the nvidia high performance

[hushed jolt]

its using the driver

actual tech question how do i make it so my pc gets more wifi i get less than 1% of our wifi network

[proud trellis]

ethernet cable

[hushed jolt]

what

[proud trellis]

an ethernet cable

[hushed jolt]

we have more than a 100mb total and i get 250kb

i dont have ethernet cable i think

[near rune]

You most likely won't get that max speed all the time

Ethernet cable is the 1st thing

Maybe try switching ur router to 5ghz

If it isn't far away

[proud trellis]

make sure ur router is facing towards ur pc too

[supple bane]

not sure that would do much

[near rune]

Well i guess routers have 360 view nowadays

Coverage*

[tender horizon]

point the antennae to your room

[hushed jolt]

i could try using the 5ghz

[tender horizon]

it can help

[near rune]

5ghz wilk help

[quick locust]

Better wifi card and antennas, being closer to router, using 5 GHz wifi

[tender horizon]

5ghz if you're close to your router

2.4 if you're far

[quick locust]

Opposite

[near rune]

No lol

[tender horizon]

oh fuck

[proud trellis]

swear down years ago you had shit internet because it wasnt facing towards your ps4 ?

or am i wrong ?

[supple bane]

that was years ago, way before i knew anything about tech. it was probably just a coincidence

[proud trellis]

oh

[quick locust]

Oh and dont use those tiny crappy usb dongles for wifi

[supple bane]

yeah lower frequencies are always better at range

[quick locust]

Higher frequencies are easier to stop

[supple bane]

radio frequencies like 14 mhz can very easily transmit signals that circle the earth

[quick locust]

Same with sound

[supple bane]

using very little power too, with a good antenna you can transmit using like 50w and circle the earth easily

[quick locust]

There is 60 GHz wifi too which is fast but can be stopped by you just walking between source and pc

lol

[near rune]

That's just useless then

[supple bane]

i wouldnt say useless

[quick locust]

it can hit 7 gbps

but is short range and easily stopped

[supple bane]

if you have a few servers in a room, it could save running cables

[quick locust]

So if you have them in each room theyre usable

[supple bane]

although id guess it would be MUCH more expensive than a 10gig nic and switch setup

so maybe it is useless still

[quick locust]

eh not really

its not a new thing

[supple bane]

60 ghz, to me that sounds really expensive

and 10 gig network hardware is kinda slow now. and its pretty cheap iirc

[quick locust]

my phone has it built in

its not uncommon

Well

[opaque saddle]

[quick locust]

Its pretty cool

Can't cover a house with 1 router but can have mesh

[storm osprey]

how big is your house?

[quick locust]

60GHz gets blocked fast

Doesnt have to be big

Infact I think the first wall would stop it

Since I have all brick

dual 2.5 GBe and dual TB4 on a B550 board

[fallow garden]

🤨

[latent light]

11900K and 11700K dies are about 30% bigger than 10900K's die

Maybe that helps spread out the heat but definitely increases manufacturing cost

[digital hill]

how does that help though?

[latent light]

More die area usually helps with temperatures but maybe not with Sunny Cove architecture

[digital hill]

Ah

[lost venture]

got a new pc

now i can play 8bit Valheim at 140fps instead of 60

[solar kestrel]

what card is that @lost venture

[lost venture]

1660 Super

[solar kestrel]

got dayum

im gonna get on of dem

[latent light]

NVMe drive and RAM look questionable

[lost venture]

What's wrong?

[solar kestrel]

its not 3200 mhz

ace is gonna throw a damn fit

[latent light]

They put a MSI Gaming X 1660 Super which is one of the most expensive models of that GPU but they cheap out on the NVMe SSD and RAM

RAM is probably CL17 2666

[solar kestrel]

still better then my shit pc

[lost venture]

lol well

my old pc was like from 2009

[turbid verge]

@lost venture Looks fine to me, only advice for future reference maybe get a bigger ssd or hdd to storage stuff

Noways 500gb can fill easly

[solar kestrel]

what gpu did you have lol

[lost venture]

idek lol

it was my dads pc from work

but i put a 1060 in it

[solar kestrel]

oh damn

[lost venture]

yeah, my old pc had something around a terabit with an HDD

[solar kestrel]

did you sell it or are you making a secondary

[latent light]

Dont download any call of duty lol

500GB will be gone quick

[solar kestrel]

lol

[latent light]

1660 Super is up to 30% faster than 1060

Not a big difference but your CPU upgrade is probably the biggest change

[solar kestrel]

[lost venture]

all the new warthunder qol updates took my frames down to like 10 on my old pc lol

[latent light]

If old PC was from 2009 it must of had an Athlon CPU in it or some shit

[solar kestrel]

what did you do with the 1060

[lost venture]

oh

[solar kestrel]

[lost venture]

gonna give it to my grandma

[turbid verge]

[latent light]

[solar kestrel]

[lost venture]

[latent light]

Farmville 8K 240 fps

[lost venture]

lol

[latent light]

@lost venture how much did that prebuilt PC cost

[lost venture]

$999

+tax

coulda bought an OP harrier instead

[turbid verge]

Not bad considering how graphics cards prices are

[solar kestrel]

mhmh

a 1660 super costs about that rn

[latent light]

CPU $150, motherboard $70, RAM $60, SSD $60, GPU $260, PSU $50, legit Windows 10 key $100

[lost venture]

gonna have to buy photoshop aswell

[solar kestrel]

damn

[latent light]

Case is probably $50

[turbid verge]

Lmao the gpu is nowhere 260$

[solar kestrel]

funny joke

1050ti maby

[latent light]

Going from 1660 Super msrp

[turbid verge]

More like 500-600 at current prices

And if its in stock lol

[lost venture]

[solar kestrel]

you guys are funny lol

[turbid verge]

260$ msrp lmao

[solar kestrel]

looks like im stuck at 10fps gaming for a long ass while

[latent light]

$260 is how much the MSI Gaming X costs before shortage

[turbid verge]

During a semi conductor crisis and a cryptomining fever

[solar kestrel]

fucking hell i could not havevpicek a worse time to say

ahh yes i shall upgrade my pc

[turbid verge]

Good point "before"

[latent light]

Shortage is gonna clear up by 2H

[lost venture]

[solar kestrel]

whats 2h

[latent light]

Second half

[solar kestrel]

of the yaer

[turbid verge]

The thing is dunkin bought it recently so in the end at the price he paid he's winning for that bargain

[lost venture]

got that MF dub

[latent light]

AMD CPU shortage is clearing up some, the 5600X and 5800X are in stock and at normal prices

[lost venture]

[latent light]

Their GPUs steadily going up

[turbid verge]

Gpus prices are indeed going up

[solar kestrel]

here me out dude, just make more cards... well hot damn problem solved

thank me later everyone

[turbid verge]

3070 for 1300€

[weak girder]

oof

[turbid verge]

And amd cant even supply enough gpus because part of the APU is to also make the ps5 and xbox one x

[latent light]

Nvidia shortage is result from two things: 1. Poor Samsung chip yields 2. Panic from pandemic and canceled a lot of orders

[weak girder]

and the rtx 3000 cards being too cheap at stock

[turbid verge]

The crisis is enough to know that world governments plus private industries all together put a total of 1 trillion plus in dollars to build factories of semi condutors and chips

People forget the market isnt just intel/amd/nvidia

[solar kestrel]

so my question is

when the fuck will i be able to get a decent price on the 1660 super

casue im starting to get a little sad

[latent light]

RX 6700 XT is gonna be in massive supply apparently, more so than the entire Navi 21 product line

[turbid verge]

Same said companies such as samsung, Qualcomm, ARM, TSMC are supplying car factories and 90% of recent eletronics

[weak girder]

you can get a rtx 2060 for a decent price

[solar kestrel]

below 300

lol

[weak girder]

this is approx 360

usd

[turbid verge]

So if someone tells me in a fever for gpus to make money or/and in the middle of a eletronic components crisis says that the market is fine idk man

[lost venture]

[turbid verge]

@weak girder how much for a 3070/3080?

[solar kestrel]

A bit expensive e

[turbid verge]

Iam here still trying to snag a 3080 near msrp. Could have bought an amd but they're just bad for work porpuses

[solar kestrel]

What do you have currently

[turbid verge]

1070

[solar kestrel]

[turbid verge]

Does the job for now

[weak girder]

850

[turbid verge]

Yeh I work with 3D

[weak girder]

but Im in the only country which has stock lol

[turbid verge]

USD or EUR?

[weak girder]

USD

[solar kestrel]

If you ever get that 3080 and need to get that 1070 off your hands I’m always willing to spend a little money

[turbid verge]

Oof

Nope

1070 stays

[latent light]

Nvidia and AMD are delaying low-end products such as GA107 and Navi 23 because those will face the huge demand of the value oriented crowd. Expect RTX 3050/3050Ti and RX 6600/6500 series in the summer time.

[solar kestrel]

Damn

[turbid verge]

I have extra plans for it

[solar kestrel]

[turbid verge]

Can use it as a holding gpu while use the 3080 for renderings

[turbid verge]

While semi condutors demand keeps going up and supply getting lower, yeh dont wait for stock only marketing of it

[weak girder]

I think Imma buy a 2060 around May if the prices are not too high

since I finally have the money saved up

[turbid verge]

Lets see how things turn around with the pandemic ending

Tbh of crypto stays at this rate in the future gpu demand is gonna be bad still even with a normal follow of fabrication

[latent light]

Supply is getting better, at least in the case of AMD. Ryzen CPUs, Radeon GPUs, PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series are being seen in stock more often across most North American retailers compared to a couple months ago

[turbid verge]

Unless a crash happens lol

I mean we can look at a chart of demand for gpus

Around 60-70% is nvidia alone

[latent light]

Demand for GPUs skyrocketed because GPU mining started trending again

[solar kestrel]

If you ever wanna get that 1060 off ur hands

[turbid verge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/m1gays/graphics_card_market_share_q42020_amd_17_vs/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[weak girder]

sure

tbh

I wont have a use for it

[solar kestrel]

[weak girder]

bur youll have to pay me

[turbid verge]

Lol

[solar kestrel]

I’m very aware of that good sir

[weak girder]

I can give you my imac

[solar kestrel]

I have money

[weak girder]

its got a rx 560 inside

but Im not giving it away except if you pay me 1300

[solar kestrel]

Not giving you 1200 bucks damnit

[weak girder]

lol

and I dont want to give it away either

[digital hill]

Imagine turning that pc on

[weak girder]

it would summon a sandstorm

[modern gull]

[opaque saddle]

Cooler master case

[quick locust]

lmao

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-only-a-few-thousand-cards-at-launch-for-the-whole-european-union

[ember breach]

I got myself an absolutely nutty pair of headphones

[latent light]

Lol that's a lot better than the launch of the 6800XT, which only had like 80 available to all of Europe

Still not good tho

[oak ibex]

is 1080ti any good?

[supple bane]

i wouldnt buy one now unless you get a really good deal. but it still holds up very nicely

still holds up with the latest cards. not far from a 3060ti

[oak ibex]

ok cool

i’m building a list of what to buy

[supple bane]

not a 1080ti

[oak ibex]

sure

so what would you suggest?

[supple bane]

at the moment, nothing

wait for the gpu shortage to blow over

[oak ibex]

i’m not buying until later this year

i have heard there is a real shortage atm

[weak girder]

your budget is 1k right?

if gpu prices are normal by the end of the year I think you can be a pc with an rtx 3060, i7 10700k, 16gb ram

but right now you cant do much

[oak ibex]

yeah seb my budget is 1k maximum

i don’t know much but if you believe that i could have those specs by the end of the year, it’s looking promising

i have heard that a 3060 is top quality

i was gawking at current prices but wasn’t comparing it to the shortage

[supple bane]

id spend less on the cpu and more on the gpu

3060ti and like 3700x if they are still around by then

easier to cool, cheaper mobo and cheaper chip whilst still wont bottleneck a 3060ti at 1440p

[latent light]

We may not see new lower end GPUs such as the RTX 3050Ti, 3050 or RX 6700, 6600XT, 6600 until summer time

[weak girder]

the i7 10700k is cheap for what its worth

you could buy an i5 9400f and encounter no problems but its good to keep future proofing in mind

btw what are the rtx 2060 prices for everyone rn?

[latent light]

https://wccftech.com/thermalright-introduces-the-venomous-plus-cpu-cooler/

Cooler, quieter and cheaper than Noctua NH-U12S and U12A

[near rune]

I guess 0 because theyr out of stock

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-slower-than-rx-5700-xt-in-ethereum-mining

6700XT is 25% slower in mining Ethereum than last gen 5700XT

Uses more power and costs more too

[digital hill]

Oof

that could be great for gamers then as miners would most likely go out and buy 5700xt instead of 6700xt

[modern gull]

After nvidia said they would make 3060 be slower with mining trough drivers, it made me think maybe 3080 is the same as 3070 just limited somehow

[digital hill]

I mean nvidia might be trying to do that for other reasons then mining making a second card for mining then if a drop in bitcoin drop then they will try to sell it but that card is useless and becomes ewaste

[modern gull]

mhm

ngl doubt my next gpu gonna be nvidia anyways. saw a video the other day nvidia drivers gives less fps

also nvidia drivers is currently a joke. each new driver gets an hotfix.

Talk about selling a car without tires

[fallen harbor]

amd is the same if not worse

[proud trellis]

im about to clean my GPU

gonna have to take it out the case to do so

im scared

[supple bane]

why?

[chrome skiff]

Just hit it with the garden hose, turn it on right after so the fans help dry it out

[fallen harbor]

lol

[proud trellis]

i was thinking about putting some fair liquid on too

ngl

[proud trellis]

the fans are rlly dusty and i cant do anything with it in the case so im just gonna take it out

[supple bane]

yeah but why is that scaring you ?

[proud trellis]

incase i drop it or something

[supple bane]

then just dont drop it

[proud trellis]

before i do anything...when i put it back on do i need to do anything or will my computer just turn on and just be normal

[supple bane]

it will just turn on

just turn the powersupply off

or unplug it

[proud trellis]

yeah i will

[oak ibex]

boys, just found out that my cousin knows people that buy parts directly from the manufacturers

i’m set

[fallen harbor]

hello set

im depressed

[oak ibex]

try eating

[fallen harbor]

i do but im full

[oak ibex]

i’m about to eat

[fallen harbor]

so i have to wait till i empty myself again

[oak ibex]

loaded fries

with

water

[fallen harbor]

wdym loaded fries? did you put them inside a sniper barrel or something

[oak ibex]

lol k

yh, i give them a meat shell casing

[fallen harbor]

oh

[turbid verge]

doesnt matter, since there's pirated drivers that allow you to still bypass

[modern gull]

Oh i see

[turbid verge]

even with the 3060 "nerf" its only for the ETH type of algorithm on which if you mine something else works plus with ETH 2.0 next year (as per what the devs claim) its gonna be complete useless

[modern gull]

[turbid verge]

not the first time AMD/Nvidia try to put these nerf in the cards

happened 2 years ago

and was easly bypassed with hacked drivers

with the RX 500 series and the 10 series

also ETH and BTC hit ATH today, getting worse and worse for who wants to get a gpu like me

[latent light]

What is ETH 2.0 gonna be like

Not reliant on memory bandwidth?

If ETH devs want RDNA2 cards to be useful for mining, the algorithm would have to be programed to depend on L3 cache or "Infinity Cache"

[turbid verge]

devs are keeping it very closed to themselfs

if they spoil people will start stack for it to then scalp or take full advantage

RDNA2 are already usefull

[latent light]

RDNA2 is pretty useless value wise for mining

[turbid verge]

Iam confused rn

[latent light]

RTX 3070 is faster at mining than AMD's highest end

[turbid verge]

do you know how its calculated?

[latent light]

Going off of ETH, BTC and alt-coins

[turbid verge]

what I meant is do you know how its calculated the mining speeds

because AMD's are as good as nvidia at mining even more rentable per its price

the 6800 XT which is equivalent to the 3080 has similar hash rates

6800 XT has around 58-65 MH/s (same hashrate as the 3070) meanwhile the 3080 around 78-86 MH/s

[latent light]

RTX 3080 is the perfect mining card

[turbid verge]

no

if you really want to calculate it its more about Hashrate to how much you can mine in a day

if you bought a 3080 at MSRP yes, if you bought at current prices no

also the 3080 consumes more energy even undervolted

which adds to the pernalty cost

right now at the prices of AMD they're better then the 3070 upwards

with 3070 going as low as 1300€

[latent light]

The 2 year old 5700XT at $400 launch MSRP is nearly as fast at ETH mining as the $650 6800XT and $1000 6900XT

Tbh 5700/5700XT should be more attractive to miners than the whole RDNA2 product stack

[turbid verge]

they still are bad due to the GDDR6X

I remember back 2 years even a year ago the best cards were the 580 from radeon

low power use, saves you couple grand

cheap cards

[latent light]

Yeah mining companies could buy RX 580s in bulk at $100 a piece or less

[turbid verge]

also some AIB's made 580's that were dedicated for mining

which was a good vantage over any card

[latent light]

RX 580 was good at undervolting right?

[turbid verge]

wasnt worth it

[latent light]

Did people buy Vega cards for ETH?

[fallen harbor]

man my grandparents had been using a very old and shitty pc for long so i got them a new pc

and i think i made a big mistake

[proud trellis]

why

[fallen harbor]

they can't use their printer nor his webcam because they are also old and not compatible with w10

and now they got this "your pc ran into a problem" loop

and it seems it has no fix other than formatting

ffs

and they call me all day for these things because its kind of my responsibility i suppose

[fallen harbor]

fml

[oak ibex]

are itx cases problematic at all?

[supple bane]

Pretty much yes

An itx case will always be harder to build in and worse temps than a bigger alternative

Often more expensive too

But they look cool and are... small (duh)

[oak ibex]

so terrible for a beginner but if you’re experienced and know what doing you can make it work

n yeah they look cool

i’ll just go for a mid tower

[weak girder]

they can call tech support

[fallen harbor]

ah yes

my friend seb

seb understands me

seb is an ally

dont worry my child

you will be remembered during the andocalypse

you wont be harmed

[weak girder]

[steel elbow]

yo why does bf4 look so bad on xbox

[latent light]

720p with no anti-aliasing used, for some reason they don't enhance the game for the One X or Series X\S

[weak girder]

on the xbone ?!

[opaque saddle]

congrats your 4tb seagate has arrived

[digital hill]

thank you

its time to mod my vita

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/yeston-radeon-rx-6800-xt-sakura-edition-pictured

Love the aesthetic tbh

[digital hill]

damn

[solar kestrel]

Lads

Say I had 500$

And I need a new psu and gpu

What would I get

[digital hill]

gpu wait

psu get a 850w gold or platinum or 750w gold or platinum

[latent light]

Yeah buy an insanely good PSU and just hold off on a GPU for now as they all are 2-3x their original prices or out of stock

Actually don't buy an overkill PSU

Rather an extra SSD because storage upgrades are always good

[latent light]

Only GPU you can get for under $400 in the current situation is maybe a GTX 1650 Super lol

[digital hill]

@latent light Buy like a good psu like 850 or 750w if he wants 3070

also my vita is officially jailbroken

time to install gta 3 on it

after I get sd2vita working

[tropic prawn]

Anyone know if Xbox supports mouse and keyboard for BFF

[bitter wadi]

Don't know really but you can do research cause I play on PC

[turbid verge]

Gpu is hard to get but if u wanna try. Go for an FE 3060ti since those are ways sold at msrp which is 400$~ at whatever stores sell them in the US
For a PSU u can try go for a gold 80+ full modular somewhere between 750-850 watts, should be around 100$

[latent light]

Just get 650w gold

[bitter wadi]

700w gold is the safe zone

[quick locust]

the gold rating has nothing to do about how "safe" it is

And yeah 650 is fine

[oak ibex]

[bitter wadi]

No I am saying 700w zone is the safe zone for upgrades on your PC

[weak girder]

you could go a bit lower

[opaque saddle]

Worth going for gold with longer warranty period (5 -10 years, instead of only 3, representing the product is expected to last at least before the warranty ends.

Still, 10 years warranty is a really long time. Meaning you can replace your computer twice, or maybe three times before it runs out of time in the warranty period

[quick locust]

Yeah, that's how mine is

[opaque saddle]

And yeah that is a good investment actually. If the PSU died, take to back to replace it

Within the warranty period

[turbid verge]

The meaning of bronze silver gold plat on psu's is the components grade used

At this point I wouldnt go for a watt graded psu would just buy a 12 volt and do e but buying a high wattage psu rn is more of a future investment for upgrades

[quick locust]

@turbid verge Technically it is just an efficency rating

Yes better components can get higher effiency, but the rating is just the effiency itself

Most bronze PSUs are just fine

There's not many crap PSUs anymore except for a few mistakes and/or wish psus

[modern gull]

EVGA never buying again lul

also XFX is on my blacklist for psu's

[turbid verge]

seasonic is maybe the best PSU brand you have

they literally produce components for other PSU brands

[modern gull]

Heard those was good

[quick locust]

For the most part yes, mine is seasonic based too

And yes that's how it is mostly

Corsair don't make their own

for example

[modern gull]

I once had Corsair white, it was better than the xfx/evga

[quick locust]

Neither does evga

[modern gull]

xfx one broke pretty quick, evga one has insane amount of coil whine

funny thing both was alot more expensive than corsair one also

[quick locust]

Many of corsairs is seasonic based, at least their higher end

[modern gull]

Maybe i just stick with corsair or seasonic from now

[quick locust]

FSP and delta is also nice

Well

They're the big OEMs

[modern gull]

ngl i know pretty little of psu's

but corsair have been nice

[quick locust]

https://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm

a few of corsairs OEMs

[modern gull]

nice

Think i had the cx series

[quick locust]

Man CWTs website is horrible

[prime jasper]

anybody can help me on pc battlefield 5 my game is laggy as hell when i try to make it look good but i want it to look good and not lag any tips?

[modern gull]

isnt too bad tho

[modern gull]

Quick tip would be low graphics settings

[prime jasper]

k

i had it on medium

[quick locust]

What's your specs

[prime jasper]

specs?

[quick locust]

Not your glasses but your pc hardware

[modern gull]

[prime jasper]

um my graphics card is a geforce rtx 2060

[quick locust]

should be just fine in bfv with rtx off

[prime jasper]

pretty good i think

[quick locust]

yeah

[prime jasper]

what is the setting called?

[quick locust]

DXR

[prime jasper]

k

[modern gull]

like how people still call directx raytracing, rtx

[prime jasper]

visual settings right?

[quick locust]

yes

@modern gull nvidia marketing is too strong for me

[modern gull]

[quick locust]

Although AMDs raytracing still kinda sucks

[prime jasper]

i put dx12 on?

[quick locust]

In performance

dx12, medium or high, 1080p