I know that's a wide range but it differs a lot
#technology
proud trellis
does anyone have experience in cats and mouse matts lol. the cats have been in my room this morning walking over my desk and have clawed my mouse matt and left little pieces of loose fabric and its in the one spot where it actually annoys me. anyone know how to remove em (already tried scissors)
weak girder
my cat walks on my keyboard and leaves fur on it but thats about it
my mousepad is hard so it cant scratch it
solar kestrel
I just don’t own a cat
proud trellis
they arent even mine. they are my sisters but they run round the whole house in the mornings doing random shit
solar kestrel
near rune
Im looking to get new headphones
Is the jbl live 650 good
Or something else around 100€
Thats wireless and wired
quick locust
2 hrs
dusk plaza
@linustechtips
supple bane
update with my rift s. it now completely doesn't work on my machine what so ever
so im gonna have to play vr games on my spare pc
i tried a different boot drive with a different install of windows and the exact same problem occurred. which shows there is a hardware problem. well less of a problem more of an incompatibility.
supple bane
from that video
so 6700xt is probably slightly faster than a 3070 then ?
or about the same
although that might be using SAM so i guess waiting for real world numbers is better
yep, similar to the the 3070
storm osprey
its always interesting to see how companies make charts
strong breach
latent light
40 compute units competes with the RTX 3070
RDNA2 is clearly the better architecture here
dusk plaza
storm osprey
although that might be using SAM so i guess waiting for real world numbers is be...
tech jesus says amd numbers are with SAM
supple bane
I guessed they would be
latent light
SAM barely makes a difference, smaller than 3%
I've seen it even cause performance loss in some titles
latent light
Doubt
storm osprey
tech jesus says they on average see 5-10% gains
and yes, the occasional performance loss
storm osprey
ill just wait to see
latent light
Did they announce new version of Super Resolution yet
Or a new mid-range CPU that ain't over $300
quick locust
asrock and powercolor 6700 xt look meh
storm osprey
lol is that a surprise?
latent light
Not surprised to hear mid-range designs looking worse than high-end
storm osprey
its weird to see the difference in tone for amd launches and nvidia launches. nvidia new gpus "blah stock is shit, they dont care about gamers", amd launches "this is super important and we are looking forward to them solving the stock problems"
smoky kettle
@supple bane @chrome skiff @latent light a re-install of the game onto my NVME has sorted battlefield btw
thanks for the help
smoky kettle
yeah I can only assume it was some fault that occured after cloning or something
it could be
storm osprey
clean installs ftw
smoky kettle
thankfully 1tb ssds are cheap as chips nowadays
latent light
Always try to get an SSD with DRAM and TLC or better
chrome skiff
Mildly inconvenient price of chips lol
quick locust
neither of them can solve their stock problems rn
storm osprey
of course not, but it seems youtubers are being biased about it
maybe its just timing and they dont want to talk about stock shortages for the 6th gpu launch in a row
the tones for the 3060 were pretty bleak, and so far for 6700xt they dont have that same negative feeling
latent light
So the RX 6700 XT at only 2.4GHz trades blows with the RTX 3070, imagine the factory OC models that reach over 2.8 GHz
storm osprey
smoky kettle
Always try to get an SSD with DRAM and TLC or better
cool thanks, got a sandisk ssd plus in there atm
only got it around september time so would be surprised if its failed already
I will believe the more stock claims when we see it lol
AMD has been woeful
quick locust
the 6700 xt seem nice but expected it a bit lower msrp
digital hill
10ms later its sold out
storm osprey
i keep telling my friend that we got super lucky to get gpus when we did
dry hull
AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT 6-core processor
opaque saddle
I think you can pair a gpu that is way better than that
opaque saddle
What I usually see people is, getting a decent processor but it lacks of gpu power
fallow garden
yea
opaque saddle
Sad but true
fallow garden
what u wanna me do
supple bane
What I usually see people is, getting a decent processor but it lacks of gpu pow...
for id say like 80% of games, provided you have at least 6 cores, cpu performance really doesnt matter that much
turbid verge
stock
supple bane
the difference between a budget and highend chip being like 20 fps
turbid verge
non existent
opaque saddle
Yeah coz gpu is much more demanding these days
turbid verge
fallow garden
i would want to upgrade my gtx 1060 to like 1660 super but eh money
opaque saddle
Like people did OC their 7350K and got a pretty decent result apart from 0.1 or 1% low
And don’t forget the infamous Pentium G3258
dry hull
I think you can pair a gpu that is way better than that
Trying to save up for one just can afford a different one right now
fallen harbor
i would want to upgrade my gtx 1060 to like 1660 super but eh money
where are you from
fallen harbor
Trying to save up for one just can afford a different one right now
where are you from too
like, country
opaque saddle
Trying to save up for one just can afford a different one right now
I see. Don’t afraid to get a more expensive one, coz the less you spend, the faster you will need to get a new card. Assuming you are using it for 5-6 years
smoky kettle
strange but glad to hear
scrap that
fallow garden
ye i know where latvia is
fr?
smoky kettle
just gone back on
opaque saddle
Or intel?
smoky kettle
and game is back down to 90fps
fallen harbor
non geographically ignorant people ig
dry hull
I see. Don’t afraid to get a more expensive one, coz the less you spend, the fas...
mite get a new gpu for christmas idk
opaque saddle
I thought XT would be the refresh models
fallow garden
non geographically ignorant people ig
where u from
opaque saddle
And X is the model that cost a bit more than standard
storm osprey
mite get a new gpu for christmas idk
we can only hope they are readily available at that point xD
fallen harbor
where u from
argentina
opaque saddle
Cryptocurrency mining rip
storm osprey
you are european
near rune
Well yea
opaque saddle
Coz those countries were split a larger country
fallen harbor
what is hard to remember are the tiny islands in the pacific and in central america
near rune
I know some
dry hull
we can only hope they are readily available at that point xD
lol yeah
storm osprey
i suck at geography in general, but i feel like eu is harder than most since things are so close to eachother
opaque saddle
Typical gamers can’t get their cards these days
opaque saddle
Especially the new 30 series gpu are getting more and more expensive
storm osprey
3060 msrp 330... cheapest 3060 is 380 xD
storm osprey
you have taxes included though
supple bane
edit. its 530 dollarinos
storm osprey
but that free healthcare though
supple bane
storm osprey
imagine caring about others
supple bane
if you break your leg whilst installing your gpu and you save tons of money
storm osprey
my friend is in queue for evga gpus still
he recently got a 3080 ftw for its first price
at least in usa msrp went up because of tariffs
opaque saddle
Don’t worry. Our oz dollars is affected by the tax and the exchange rate is similar to Canadian dollars
smoky kettle
@supple bane I may have found out what my performance issues are caused by, you cannot turn DLSS on on a 3000 series card
what a dumb fucking error
supple bane
Thats not it
Not being able to turn dlss on doesnt reduce fps
You should still be seeing 200+
smoky kettle
hmmmmm
opaque saddle
Unless there is a power issue there..
smoky kettle
maybe I should do a DDU re-install
supple bane
Could work
smoky kettle
Unless there is a power issue there..
well I wondered that but using a 850w psu
and two individual PCI-E power cables
which you have to with the 3080
opaque saddle
Which I was thinking whether it was the cable itself, but what you said doesn’t seems like it
opaque saddle
Not 80+?
smoky kettle
but it never caused issues on the old rig I was using with two 780s
its 80+ gold
RM850
opaque saddle
Hmm. A PSU can last for a really long time, sometimes 10+ years without issue
opaque saddle
What game were you referring to?
smoky kettle
but like if other games were having issues I would expect that
smoky kettle
What game were you referring to?
battlefield v
smoky kettle
yeah tried with and without
opaque saddle
Interesting. What is the processor then?
smoky kettle
5800x
opaque saddle
Coz my pc do get FPS drop before the game started. That was possibly be gsync/ adaptive sync issue
alpine cargo
Mine does this as well
supple bane
What settings are you using? @smoky kettle
smoky kettle
Just about to eat, will come back to you
smoky kettle
What settings are you using? <@150306126280392704>
ultra everything, dx12, ffr on, no motion blur
1440p 144hz
dry hull
Description : A fatal error occurred while creating a TLS client credential. The internal error state is 10013.
this bad
smoky kettle
Description : A fatal error occurred while creating a TLS client credential. The...
you got tls 1.0 enabled?
smoky kettle
What settings are you using? <@150306126280392704>
no joy after DDU re-install
at this point I might give up lol
supple bane
do you have another GPU you can throw in there to see if you get expected performance on that ?
smoky kettle
do you have another GPU you can throw in there to see if you get expected perfor...
its currently with a mate, but could probably get it
its a 780 so no idea what expected performance would be on that 😂
supple bane
you can just look on youtube
smoky kettle
true
smoky kettle
last question, do you have the ram in the right slots ?
yep
this is the thing
I am in IT support so I do this sort of thing daily
yet this has stumped me
have never troubleshooted low fps in a game tho mind hahha
supple bane
i too am stumped
molten coral
modern gull
was gonna say 1k but used price closer to MSRP
This made me want to check pricing in local shops
smoky kettle
i too am stumped
think I have sorted it
dx12 brings me up to expected performance
why oh why did it have to stutter when I first played it the other day
thus me googling that and then turning it off
turbid verge
2 things in that post Iam suspicious
he's 100% not using factory setup on the card
he most likely OC'd it
second and biggest none you should never do
open the card because of warranty issues
also thermal pads being burned means nothing, board can be cleaned and ZOTAC can put new pads on it
or even the guy
solar kestrel
turbid verge
I saw that post early and havent seen anyone getting their thermal pads being fried like that
there was people blamming VRam was overheating a bit reaching 90ºc
opaque saddle
I thought the VRAM modules on the 3080 goes way higher than 90C, like 95 or 100C in gaming, or >110C in cryptocurrency mining??
If any of you remember the RX 5700 XT from Asus, the vram from those cards were constantly getting 95C in gaming. It does caused a lot of issues still.
latent light
Yeah even 90C will degrade over time
Probably be 5+ years but still
100C on the other hand
quick locust
reference 5700 XT lol
opaque saddle
These temp are way too high. Like constantly toward the melting point
Maybe soon will be putting a heat sink and a fan on it
quick locust
vram and vrm usually does
opaque saddle
But it needs to level up ground clearance a bit
Not sure why they are using thermo pads for most of the product these days
quick locust
I need to improve temps on my card and make it stop revving up all the time
opaque saddle
I mean, they knew it but they still put the pads on it
quick locust
Actually it could be vram or vrm temps that make it keep revving up the fans, but I've got no way of checking
This is unenforcable in some areas though
latent light
It's unenforced in US
Navi 21 left and Navi 22 right
Half the compute units but 3 quarters of the cache
More cache per compute unit
quick locust
Its a nice card
latent light
2424 MHz is a weird number to land
Aftermarket will get to 3 GHz easily
Considering many 6800XT hits 2.7 and 2.8 GHz
opaque saddle
Maybe a few generations later, will soon be hitting 3.5ghz or 4ghz
smoky kettle
I thought the VRAM modules on the 3080 goes way higher than 90C, like 95 or 100C...
yeah I am getting around 103 and up whilst gaming
maxed at 106
opaque saddle
No good
molten bramble
Quite literally there is a law barring a company from not honoring a warranty, provided that the modification did nothing to cause the issue.
digital hill
Well corsair got back and I didn't know there was a damn feature to reset the mouse that the manual never mentioned
Fixed the left click problem
solar kestrel
digital hill
rtx 3070 open box for 519 on best buy and best buy decided to limit the shipping area
solar kestrel
fuck bestbuy
all my homies hate bestbuy
@proud trellis what model/ brand 1660 super do you have?
latent light
Xbox Series and PS5 use FXSR too
Maybe this means AMD's Super sampling method will see great support by game devs
proud trellis
<@!779429414328074250> what model/ brand 1660 super do you have?
EVGA
solar kestrel
okay thank you mister ice your services are appreciated
fallen harbor
hello cuties
supple bane
ando you know you can change your colour right ?
proud trellis
lol
weak girder
hello cuties
hello Ando 
weak girder
yes
fallen harbor
nice
weak girder
are you a duckoon
what is your pfp supposed to be lol
fallen harbor
an anthropomorphic hellhound
chatting on her cellphone
the character is called loona, from "helluva boss"
tis a dark humor show
proud trellis
ando you have cats dont you ?
fallen harbor
no
proud trellis
oh
supple bane
nyphon
proud trellis
oh its nyphon
lofty light
Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-2Scfj4FZk
Oh that really isn't embedding
storm osprey
i like how i seem to notice when im mentioned without being mentioned often
fallen harbor
why are you a borger
storm osprey
why wouldnt i be?
supple bane
why are you a borger
He's american
fallen harbor
oic
storm osprey
its more so that its my favorite food
they are so versatile
burrito is a close 2nd
supple bane
What makes a food, versatile ?
fallen harbor
that you can modify it quite a lot while still maintaining the same original scense i suppose
storm osprey
pretty much
supple bane
I see
storm osprey
like.. how do you modify spaghetti? change the sauce and meat?
thats pretty wack
but with a burger, theres so much to change
supple bane
Yeah I'd say you can modify any food the same amount you can a borgor
storm osprey
nahh
fallen harbor
smh
proud trellis
what the actual fuck
supple bane
There are endless different combinations of seasonings along for the spaghetti example
storm osprey
burgers and burritos are more of a vessel than anything
storm osprey
There are endless different combinations of seasonings along for the spaghetti e...
technically all those seasonings can apply to a burger, but i have more individual things to change/add
yea id say sandwiches are more versatile than burgers, but i like burgers more
(im not claiming burgers are the most versatile, and thats only a small fraction of why i like burgers so much)
supple bane
My problem with burgers are they are too, impractical
storm osprey
sure, but how often are you eating that the food has to be practical?
supple bane
Eating a burger is hard because you have to squeeze it in your gob. Then shit falls out whilst your eating
supple bane
Compare that to like, a solid. pot of pasta
Easy to make, simple, can be eaten cold, not messy
storm osprey
... pasta is way more impractical to eat...
supple bane
Can be taken anywhere
storm osprey
oh, are you not talking about only eating?
supple bane
Yes, if I wanted to have a day out and I wanted to pack lunch
storm osprey
when i hear impractical for food im thinking of something like how easy it is to drive and eat or something like that
supple bane
If I have dirty hands, I wouldn't wanna eat a muddy burger, instead I use a fork and have a pasta pot
There is a reason you can buy pre-done ready to eat pasta pots at a super market
They are cheap and easy and taste good. Unlike a burger
fallen harbor
how in the everloving world is eating a burger hard or messy
storm osprey
i imagine granty just eating plain pasta by itself for "max convenience"
supple bane
Yes
fallen harbor
im preparing my lunch at work rn
supple bane
I've eaten just toast for breakfast no butter or anything just cuz I was in a rush and that was fastest
storm osprey
you live a sad sheltered food life
supple bane
Bang a slice of bread in the toaster, run upstairs get changed, come back take bread out eat and done
Out the house
That was a real example, I was going mountain biking at 9, I woke up at 8:50, I got dressed, got all my kit ready, packed stuff and had breakfast all in 10 minutes
storm osprey
idk if i would call a piece of toasted bread breakfast
supple bane
It is when you only weigh 110 pounds
storm osprey
how tall are you?
weak girder
It is when you only weigh 110 pounds
wut
supple bane
how tall are you?
173 cm
supple bane
55kg
fallen harbor
ty
supple bane
I guesses the conversion to pounds
supple bane
Idk what it is in pounds exactly
near rune
Im like 175 and 65kg
fallen harbor
im 182cm and 79kg
near rune
Idk i might have gained more weight
fallen harbor
yall are thin as hell
near rune
Yes im thin
weak girder
yall are thin as hell
youre tall
fallen harbor
no im ando
supple bane
weak girder
fallen harbor
storm osprey
im 178cm
fallen harbor
no ure boger
storm osprey
yes i am
molten coral
I'm 188cm
molten coral
solar kestrel
proud trellis
😳
proud trellis
i put my moniters refresh rate down to 60HZ on bfv and it runs fine
fallen harbor
does it work better with only one monitor at a time instead of two too
proud trellis
yeah yeah yeah
fallen harbor
i dont understand why the refresh rate would affect the performance
proud trellis
that did help too
fallen harbor
he lowered the hz not the fps
fallen harbor
also lowering your fps so your game doesnt run like a slideshow doesnt make sense either
quick locust
Hz itself has no impact on performance
While lowering fps means cpu has to do less so if its getting maxed and stutters it might help
molten coral
wait since when is nacho a weeb
since always
quick locust
It's kinda stupid though
fallen harbor
that's not the problem between an i5 9400 and bfv
quick locust
Hz has no impact on performance so it is not linked to it
fallen harbor
the only scenario where what you say can hold true is if the cpu is overheating insanely
proud trellis
the only scenario where what you say can hold true is if the cpu is overheating ...
my temps are fine tho
fallen harbor
i know your temps are fine
quick locust
Nicr
fallen harbor
im saying that it makes no sense to limit the frame rate to not get stutters on bfv when having an 9400
proud trellis
i will go on BFV rn
latent light
BFV makes my R5 1600AF stay above 80% usage lol
quick locust
How it runs on jaguar apu I've no idea lol
fallen harbor
bfv doesnt become a slideshow when reaching 100% of cpu
supple bane
core 0 is at 100% and the rest are at 95%+ for me
proud trellis
the only time its laggy is when i first load up the game and when i first enter matches
fallen harbor
yeah thats the hard drive
proud trellis
but after like 20-30 seconds of running round its fine
proud trellis
yeah thats the hard drive
its on an SSD
fallen harbor
guess its heavy even for an ssd then
but it's the drive
hard or solid
and thats normal
for bfv that is
most people get stutters when entering the match
proud trellis
yup
quick locust
Compiling and assset loading
proud trellis
COD or tarkov run fine tho. on cod my cpu is around 60-80 and on tarkov its in the 40-50s
i think its just BF
supple bane
out of interest. when you are installing bf are you stopping the install mid way, or turning your pc off half way through?
proud trellis
do HDD/SSD get hot when ur playing a game ? cuz my ssd is touching a HDD
supple bane
no
proud trellis
out of interest. when you are installing bf are you stopping the install mid way...
no. i mainly install games overnight and leave the pc on
fallen harbor
hdd/ssd should literally not work at all during the game only except for when the map is loading
proud trellis
oh
quick locust
@fallen harbor it might do much more in future cause of texture streaming
storm osprey
do HDD/SSD get hot when ur playing a game ? cuz my ssd is touching a HDD
depends?
quick locust
Which ps4/xbox one sucks at so when they get dropped it'll be more common. PS5 and xsx will be much better at this
See: Cyberpunk
storm osprey
@proud trellis
afaik theres few m.2 drives and scenarios where a drive will get hot, but its possible
quick locust
Gen 4 ssds can get hot when used 100% but they usually include heatsinks
storm osprey
even with heatsinks they can get hot
quick locust
Only a few SSDs have major overheat issues like the stupid RGB one
proud trellis
its a WDblue SSD
storm osprey
that doesnt help at all really
i assume youre talking about the wd blue 3d nand sata drive i recommended
quick locust
but yeah probably not causing you any issues
proud trellis
all that matters is my game runs fine
fallen harbor
all that matters is that despite all of the disgraces that this world brings, you are still here with us sharing the present which is the best of times and the reason why you are a present for all of us
smoky kettle
Only a few SSDs have major overheat issues like the stupid RGB one
thats what annoyed me about my 980 pro
it has a throttling issue
so I complained to amazon and they gave me it for free 😂
storm osprey
thats rather generous
smoky kettle
yeah amazon are good like that if you have an issue
its literally not worth their time to go through the admin of returning shit sometimes
they make so much money per second etc
latent light
Samsung NVMe drives are overrated
Their SATA drives too
Their NVMe sure do run hot
quick locust
They are good usually but overrated yes
storm osprey
yeah amazon are good like that if you have an issue
ive returned... maybe 3 products in 6 years, randing from 80 to 320 bucks, and they made me return it every time
fallen harbor
f
smoky kettle
Samsung NVMe drives are overrated
hence why I used the money to get an SN850 as well 😂
storm osprey
which is understandable imo, but if people are getting samsung ssds for free why can i xD
smoky kettle
ive returned... maybe 3 products in 6 years, randing from 80 to 320 bucks, and t...
tbh I am not telling the whole story, we had just gone back into lockdown after being free and I was under the impression we could not go to the post office
turns out we could
I had done no pre-checks
storm osprey
ah
storm osprey
lucky
smoky kettle
rude not to really
they required 0 proof of this tho
so in theory you could do the same
although thats definitely not legal
fallen harbor
i will make it legal
storm osprey
im confused what this is supposed to be about
storm osprey
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-gk-w0wc4-km360-h10na-usb-wired/p/N82E16823828021
44 bucks for cherry switch keyboard from a fairly major brand? hell of a deal
@supple bane sorry for random ping but if this deal applies to you, here it is
supple bane
I'll check it out in the morning
molten bramble
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-gk-w0wc4-km360-h10na-usb-wired/p/N82E16823828021
...
ROFL, I thought you said a "Buckcherry" switch keyboard when I read that. 😄 I was like, who would want a keyboard from an infamous craprock band?
storm osprey
lol, given the right price i would buy one xD
molten bramble
bahaha
digital hill
Found old pc on curb help me identify who made it
I have no idea because well
Missing a whole chasssis
digital hill
Yeah
molten bramble
Looks like an old POS system, was it near any retail outlets?
digital hill
No it wasn't near anything just some normal homes
molten bramble
It's about mid-way through. Doesn't seem to be linked to a specific OEM.
Might be a small board like that D845GRG MicroATX Desktop mb
Era is around 2002.
molten bramble
Is it a separate monitor and case? Or all integrated @digital hill ?
Gateway Computers was pretty big around that time, but usually had a mark.
digital hill
all in one
molten bramble
Fujitsu had an all-in-one that didn't go anywhere, think it was called the Model 40
https://pr.fujitsu.com/jp/news/1998/Feb/5-3e.html That's the 220
Still a little too comparmentalized
Gateway's Profile series of AIOs is pretty close.
digital hill
Well I accidently broke the lcd
it still works only left side is a little broke
The only information on the whole pc
manufactured by bell microproducts
near rune
Wargame red dragon is free on epic
sinful mantle
If it has a AGP slot slap this bad boy in and run some doom3 (3dfx Voodoo5 6000)
supple bane
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-gk-w0wc4-km360-h10na-usb-wired/p/N82E16823828021
...
Yeah looks good
magic latch
Hey guys, i have a question, so i want to buy a new SSD NVMe M.2, any good brand for this type of ssd?
supple bane
samsung
near rune
Um samsung?
Theres no other answer really
Just find a good deal
Like thats all im gonna say
opaque saddle
I would go for Samsung. You can’t go wrong with 970 EVO PLUS or 980 pro
But I would avoid any QLC version of NVMe, or any products from ADATA
storm osprey
Yeah looks good
is it available that cheap for you?
fallen harbor
weak girder
why
storm osprey
i hate that he used a knife
fallen harbor
yeah wtf
proud trellis
why did i just waste a minute watching this
craggy valve
how architects and carpenters make their foot longs
proud trellis
storm osprey
superlight is out for delivery!
quick locust
lul
this guy just builds computers to high end customers i think
he makes many of these
one a few days later
storm osprey
could murder someone with that
supple bane
is it available that cheap for you?
52 pounds on amazon uk so its in budget
storm osprey
niceee
supple bane
it says that its a detachable usb type c tho
id imagine that would be type c to type a right?
storm osprey
yea
supple bane
good
digital hill
The all in one I found on the curb has standard matx
I wonder if I can make it a gaming pc
orchid folio
sooo thats where all the gpu stock is going
Lmao
storm osprey
never
solar kestrel
zoinks
latent light
4GB isn't enough for 1080p ultra
opaque saddle
That pushes people to get a 3060 or higher
Just like the 16gb iPhone back then
Depends on whether you want a budget built or quality built
PSU is the only thing can’t cheap out
near rune
If its your first pc i assume you need a whole setup
opaque saddle
Like 80+ gold is the bare minimum should be considered. Coz a good PSU can last for 10+ years, the saving you will get is more than getting a cheap PSU
And please consider 80+ gold as a bare minimum coz cheap one don’t last long. If your PSU is faulty, that would be costly to replace one
Yes
opaque saddle
effeminacy rating
near rune
Theres like 80+ bronze gold platinum
supple bane
Its a standard that tells you your psu isn't drawing like a bazillion watts and wasting them all.
opaque saddle
Now. What’s your budget?
near rune
Are you just gonna game or do something else
opaque saddle
I would go for 10400f (more likely) or 3600 as a start
near rune
For the whole setup?
opaque saddle
The only thing you may not be able to get, is a gpu
near rune
Because that isnt alot
fallow garden
ye
near rune
144hz?
fallow garden
U aint gonna get 144fps in games with that pc
near rune
Well with ur budget of 1.1k you wont get 144fps
Like 100 for the mouse and keyboard and 1k for the pc
Should get you decent one
fallow garden
Like 100 for the mouse and keyboard and 1k for the pc
togehter 100 right lol?
near rune
Yes together
fallow garden
Not really high but
I get 80fps avg high settings bf1
near rune
Then upgrade the gpu later
opaque saddle
I can’t find a gpu tho
fallow garden
gpus rn📈📈📈
oak ibex
What you could do is get a good mobo and cpu and a bit worse gpu
ok ok
they expensive ahah
oak ibex
ideal
fallow garden
gtx 1660 super/ti
opaque saddle
So if you go for 10400f with a 70 quid board, 2x8gb (16 gb of ram), 1TB Samsung 860evo and a 80+ gold PSU should be 550 quid
oak ibex
sure, that’s helpful
opaque saddle
Of cause you can get it cheaper if it is on sale. Or 2tb hdd with a 500gb ssd
near rune
Why such a big ssd tho
opaque saddle
Also with a cheaper case can push the price down to 520
oak ibex
a gpu is the overly expensive part then
i have a case
it’s sat in the loft
brand new
near rune
Remaining
oak ibex
gpu taking half my budget, i like that
near rune
Im 8 hours behind you
oak ibex
it’s cool dw, it’s 9.32pm here n i’m abt to play bf5 for a couple
quick locust
10 pm here
opaque saddle
Hmm what game is it
oak ibex
oh boy, let’s say bf4 sure
near rune
Btw can you send your monitor @oak ibex
opaque saddle
Nah it’s better to go for more expensive build tho
near rune
Like what is it
oak ibex
sure
opaque saddle
Coz people use 144hz gaming monitor these days
oak ibex
lemme find the model
opaque saddle
Highly recommended coz you can get more kills with the faster refresh rate
Since you have that computer; it will be a waste if you got a 60hz monitor, coz I’m assuming you can get higher than 200fps in bf4
opaque saddle
Around 170fps in bf4 ultra settings
near rune
Whats the monitor
oak ibex
i’ve been living like a rat
opaque saddle
Yeah coz TN should be eliminated
oak ibex
so i should definitely upgrade
opaque saddle
If people stopped buying TN panels, the IPS panels will be cheaper to buy
near rune
Even my phone has an ips display so yea
oak ibex
i thought i had something
opaque saddle
If you go for 1660S or 1660Ti, I mean you may be able to get a gaming monitor
But still, I reckon it will be a bad move for the future
Coz, you want a PC that runs everything well beyond your expectations, not to worry about the performance for the more intense titles
storm osprey
first impressions, superlight is fucking great
near rune
Well you gotta get to that fps
storm osprey
your computer has to push out more fps
opaque saddle
Not a requirement, but it will be capped at 60hz which isn’t what you really wanted since you will be getting >144hz
Tbh with you, 60hz and 144hz monitors will be a massive jump in first impression
If you got a chance, visit the nearest electronic store and check out the 144hz monitor. Not asking you to buy one, but to look at it
supple bane
first impressions, superlight is fucking great
You brought a superlight?
What happened to loving the viper mini?
storm osprey
You brought a superlight?
i got the m800 which is a viper medium but wireless (ripoff), and fell in love with wireless
so just went straight to the top with superlight
opaque saddle
No worries. Take your time
fallen harbor
go to youtube and look for videos testing games with the following parts (literally type this in your youtube search bar) and decide which does it for you and go for that one. These videos will show some graphs or number info, just check the FPS info and the resolution. I am sorting them from cheaper to expensive although it might depend on the area:
a) ryzen 5 3400g benchmark
b) i3 10100 gtx 1650 super benchmark
c) ryzen 3 3100 gtx 1650 super
d) ryzen 5 3600 gtx 1660 super benchmark
e) i5 10400f gtx 1660 super benchmark
f) ryzen 5 3600 gtx 2060 benchmark
g) ryzen 7 3700x rtx 3070 benchmark
h) ryzen 7 3700x rtx 3080 benchmark
supple bane
i got the m800 which is a viper medium but wireless (ripoff), and fell in love w...
You lost me
Super light as in the g pro superlight?
storm osprey
@supple bane
opaque saddle
Still, I wouldn’t sacrifice getting a 1660ti in return for a gaming monitor. It is a real sacrifice, if you can spend a bit more. But let see how it goes
storm osprey
bought that since its supposed to be a viper mini clone but wireless
theres some problems that will prevent me from using that as a main for serious gaming, so i just bout the logitech g pro x superlight since its considered the best
opaque saddle
3100 with a 45 bucks board will be >145 GBP
Yeah. But not everyone will agree on that
Coz you can always get a monitor after you got a fully built pc
But if you got a cheaper part (built) that isn’t what you really wanted, you may regret getting the cheaper part
Not sure whether you wanna play newer titles tho
fallen harbor
id say get a monitor that does anything beyond 1080p and 60hz only if you are getting a high end pc which could cost you approx from 1200 to 1500 i guess
opaque saddle
Coz I reckon 10400f and 2060S/3060 will be a bare minimum if you want a better gaming experience for the upcoming AAA titles
fallen harbor
you wont make full use of a high end monitor on a mid end pc unless u play older titles
opaque saddle
Coz I reckon 1660s with a 3100/3300X is a real sacrifice for me. It is my personal opinion
fallen harbor
if youre new to pc gaming id say go for mid end tbh
youll most likely not tell the difference
opaque saddle
In this case, a gaming monitor will be an add on, GPU and CPU will not be add on coz you have to sell it and buy for new parts
oak ibex
okay
opaque saddle
Coz I saw many people who regretted getting cheaper parts. This is sad
fallen harbor
144fps is better than 60fps sure but if you never or rarely had any of those before, your first reaction will be the same when you get any of them. You will instantly love 144 only after you get super used to 60, but right now i dont think youll get shocked by jumping from 30 to 144
opaque saddle
Still depends on your budget. You cannot go wrong with better parts
supple bane
the beauty of pc gaming is upgrades. it may be worth cheaping out on some things like the peripherals and spending every penny on the pc. then once you saved some more get something nicer
like fuck a gaming keyboard, cheap office keyboard, spend the money on some more storage instead
then get something nicer later
opaque saddle
Yeah I went from 60 to 144hz. Big differences
I got an AOC keyboard for 15 USD
Brown switches, not cherry keys
fallen harbor
you dont need gold rated psu
opaque saddle
Hmm actually he will save more money on that later
supple bane
for a mid teir system, not really
opaque saddle
Like in a few years time
oak ibex
yh
fallen harbor
only make sure its certified 80+ and of good brand. The rating doesnt translate to the pc performance or care
supple bane
no
oak ibex
no
opaque saddle
Not performance gain, but speaking of reliability and longevity
fallen harbor
by rating i mean white bronze etc
supple bane
rating is how much power it draws compared to what it supplies
fallen harbor
Not performance gain, but speaking of reliability and longevity
neither
oak ibex
kk
supple bane
for example a bronze 500w powersupply under full load might draw 550w or 600w
from the wall
oak ibex
i get that
supple bane
so the higher efficiency saves you money
fallen harbor
the only difference between white and gold is your monthly electricity tax bill
supple bane
and like i said, the difference will be pennies
fallen harbor
your pc will perform the same either way
oak ibex
of which i don’t have to pay currently
opaque saddle
Nah, coz I have to pay for my bills, if there is a electric storm and using cheaper parts may actually kill my PC, even with a storm surge protector
fallen harbor
and yeah the difference isnt even big
supple bane
Nah, coz I have to pay for my bills, if there is a electric storm and using chea...
the rating doesnt effect reliability
or security
just efficiency
opaque saddle
the rating doesnt effect reliability
Was referring of build quality. Coz 80+ white uses cheaper parts
supple bane
right
fallen harbor
just go for white or bronze or the lowest you find as long as it belongs to a brand of good quality
supple bane
yeah i guess in general a higher rated psu will be built out of nicer parts
opaque saddle
I had a 80+ white and it only last for 2 years and killed my entire pc
oak ibex
uh oh
supple bane
i have a corsair vs550
fallen harbor
you were either unlucky or had a bad brand
opaque saddle
My friend got a 80+ white and it was malfunctioning. He switched off his pc and didn’t wait for long, he got electrocuted along with his GTX 970
supple bane
surely it was a knock off no name tho right?
opaque saddle
And replaced his entire build afterward
supple bane
there would be outrage if something like that happened with a known name
fallen harbor
a platinum rated psu wont lower the chances of your pc getting fried compared to a white rated. It has 0 impact. Just get a good brand
opaque saddle
My old one was cooler master
oak ibex
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/vs-series-c...
bro, ‘low power office system’ lol
supple bane
also from what i understand if a powersupply is bad it will die very quickly
if you have a psu last a few years or more then its probably fine
that mightt be wrong tho
opaque saddle
For longevity, since they are giving 3-5 years warranty. A better one will simply last for way longer than that
fallen harbor
high rate doesnt give you longevity
proud trellis
my psu is also white rating
supple bane
i do have experience with a power supply going kaboosh too
although it didnt kill anythingg
just stopped working
opaque saddle
From my personal experience, yes. A friend of mine got a really good gold PSU. He got that in 2011 and he is still using it today
fallen harbor
white can be literally better than gold if the brand is good. Your personal experience doesnt matter
opaque saddle
i do have experience with a power supply going kaboosh too
For my another pc. It fried the motherboard as well
oak ibex
for longevity, i might take the dingos word for it and go for a gold
digital hill
i do have experience with a power supply going kaboosh too
Diablotek I presume?
supple bane
aerocool
digital hill
Oh
supple bane
annoying, although the pc it was powering stays on 24/7, it never goes under load
probably draws like 15w
also reading articles on my psu is really making me want to buy something nicer heh
digital hill
go with evga or seasonic
opaque saddle
So i have seen those things and I was the person who helped my friends and myself to fix it in the last 13 years. With my experience working in a computer repair shop, I wished I got a better PSU
Back then
digital hill
and never buy a shitty psu
supple bane
i didnt buy this. i got it with my first prebuilt
its one of only 2 components i havent upgraded
the psu and the hard drive
opaque saddle
When did you get your prebuilt?
opaque saddle
Coz i have seen my old customers, they usually came back to us and their hdds are dead within 5 years time
The longest was 7 years
supple bane
idc about my hard drive dying tbh
and honestly idc about my psu dying provided it doesnt take anything with it
opaque saddle
I usually get a new hdd before the old one is showing symptoms
And yes I have lost 160gb of my data. So I tends to do that before it actually dies
supple bane
man i dont want to get another pc component tho :( i promised myself i was done upgrading
opaque saddle
If you got a good PC that is beyond your original expectations, shouldn’t worry about it
I shall go to bed soon
At least I don’t see the point upgrading my pc in 5-6 years time
supple bane
its just a tough decision. do i spend 100 pounds on a new powersupply despite this corsair one being fine for the 3 years ive had it but risk it killing my components if i dont
opaque saddle
I know how it feels like. I have seen many people who got a cheap PSU and fried their PC and ended up spending for a new computer
digital hill
I might buy a new 750w seasonic psu
opaque saddle
Still, my personal experience. Doesn’t mean it will 100% happen to anyone just because i have seen it, fixed it
digital hill
Most likely this
my evga 500w 80+ is fine but I do want at least some room for upgrades
supple bane
i would also have to glue L brackets to a new psu which i wouldnt like doing
opaque saddle
At least they give you 7 years warranty. As they would expected the part shall last longer than 7 years
supple bane
opaque saddle
Meaning if it failed, you can still get a replacement one without spending extra pennies with their warranty policies, stated
supple bane
this still pains me every time i look at it
i wish i had spent the time to figure something better out than that. but i rushed it 
digital hill
It looks ummm painful
opaque saddle
You sure you wanted to mount it on a wooden board?
molten coral
You could have made a bracket that goes around the PSU
supple bane
IK, but like i said i rushed it
my pc was already out of action for 3 days at that point whilst i built it and i was getting bored
it wasnt even supposed to go underneath. the original CAD designs had it inside like the rest of the components but my plans where spoiled by AIO tubes not being bendy enough
opaque saddle
I usually use 80% TDP rated from my PSU
supple bane
it was supposed to sit where the HDD is in that photo
and those to fans where supposed to go above the motherboard
but the tubes werent flexible enough so i just had to wing it
opaque saddle
Maybe I’m the only person who doesn’t care about how my pc looks like
As long as it works, it doesn’t matter to me how it looks like
supple bane
meh ive always liked how my pc looked
opaque saddle
Coz I cheap out those things for better quality parts
supple bane
ive had this convo before. id be willing to take certain hits like temperatures for better visuals
like a worse cpu cooler but one that matched the colour scheme
i would be very willing to do that
opaque saddle
Lol maybe that is related to the days I have to fix my pc daily
Open up the case and fixed it as daily basis
opaque saddle
Malfunctioning motherboard. That was around 11 years ago
Can’t be bothered to get a new PC as I was too broke for it. I ended up saving 1 year worth of money from lunch and got a new pc. And only used for a couple of months
Coz the old motherboard was playing up. It could be working yesterday, may not work today. And will be working fine for the next day
supple bane
i see
im addicted to tinkering with computers at this point, hence why i promised i was done upgrading
because in the space of 3 years ive brought a prebuilt, 2 motherboards, a cpu, a gpu, 2 sets of ram, an ssd, 7 fans and an AIO
i keep trying to find excuses to build a new pc when rtx 4000 launches too. but i need to tell my self NO!
kinda sad really
opaque saddle
Well if you got a pc that is beyond your expectations. You don’t even need to worry about it
opaque saddle
I was like, I bought what I needed at first
So I bought a cheaper part, regretted getting it and ended up getting a more expensive part
Which means I have spent at nearly twice as much as I would have thought
And nah your pc is fine. There is no competition about, I need a better pc to win the game
supple bane
well in fairness to me
the main 2 games i played are ark and bfv
and the prebuilt i got had a 4c4t cpu at 3.3ghz and a 1060
and the cpu wasnt enough for bfv and the gpu wasnt enough for ark
opaque saddle
1060 is a common card
supple bane
that solid 22 fps tho at 1440p ultra
opaque saddle
Coz it was cheap
I mean it isn’t really that cheap
But it is cheaper than getting a 1070 and it satisfied many others
I usually go for quality build coz I know myself so much. If I got a cheaper part, regretted immediately and ended up getting a more expensive one. So I paid for a premium and ended up getting a way better part with the similar price (old + part vs premium but more power part)
molten coral
1060 is a common card
it's the most used card with like 20-25% of the steam population using it.
solar kestrel
you have a desk pc :O
supple bane
i do
solar kestrel
fancy
proud trellis
did it take the piss to do
solar kestrel
i would smash my desk and it would break
supple bane
Oh that bitch ain't breaking
It made be a bit rough around the edges, but one thing it isn't is weak
Its definitely stronger than the ikea desk I started with
solar kestrel
id still break it
i dont bang my controler or mouse i just slam my hand into my desk
supple bane
Besidez, its an L desk, if I was to bang my hand into my desk it wouldn't be the desk pc
storm osprey
yea i got it this noon
played a few matches already, feels wired
except for no wire
tender horizon
did your hot sauce arrive nyphon
storm osprey
@solar kestrel lol how much?!
storm osprey
did your hot sauce arrive nyphon
yep, came in yesterday, its delicious but borderline too hot
storm osprey
this is a habanero sauce, so i guess thats my so far limit
5k on scoville scale iirc
solar kestrel
<@!596882173743857684> lol how much?!
storm osprey
this shits rare
one of a kind too, its been used by me
#2 bfd mini mod
#1 bfd no lifer
molten coral
prime jasper
What would be the guns and weapons the military would use in the years 2500-3000?
proud trellis
the raygun
molten coral
The blasterpack-9000
prime jasper
Hhmmm thanks
zealous lantern
does anyone know how to make it so that you can use the cursor in battlefield 4
i already tried making it borderless and windowed
niether worked
nvm
u have to disable the ingame origin display
supple bane
latent light
More than 4GB
weak girder
*4gb or more
modern gull
I need 24gb vram
modern gull
4-8 gb too little for 1080p need 24gb for that
I got 8 gb now, doubt i'll any higher at this point
8gb might be more than enough for alot more years
weak girder
yup
supple bane
TLDR was that 8gb is more than enough
pastel lily
Bro, 24 GB for 720p gaming is the new standard
modern gull
weak girder
solar kestrel