Linus had a great comparison video on the 30-series cards though
#technology
molten bramble
storm osprey
msrp in usa was 100 bucks difference iirc
proud trellis
3060ti is 400 and the 3070 is 469
storm osprey
weird
proud trellis
but i doubt i will be able to get a FE
so its like 500 for the 3070 im pretty sure
molten bramble
I mean... 69-difference between the two? 3070 is a no-brainer then.
molten bramble
That's not really something anyone will know.
proud trellis
ahh fair enough
molten bramble
the top-tier cards always stay in play for awhile though.
storm osprey
isnt the only diffference clock speeds?
proud trellis
honestly idk
storm osprey
pretty sure both 8 gb of ddr6 vram, same features
main difference your looking at is performance
proud trellis
what about cpus , any cpus that will go perfect with the 3070
proud trellis
main difference your looking at is performance
yup
molten bramble
Yeah. I think all of them do RTX now, unlike my 1660Ti previous versus a 2070SUPER.
storm osprey
at 1440p? 5600x/10600k minimum
proud trellis
i want a R7 tbh but the 3700x is 285 pounds
storm osprey
3700x is an odd choice but ok
proud trellis
the 2700x looks like something i would get but im not sure if its good
storm osprey
why would you get a 2700x?
proud trellis
its cheaper lol
storm osprey
for a reason...
storm osprey
going 3700x/2700x is trading gaming performance for core count
at 1440p you are less cpu restricted than a 3700x vs 5600x at 1080p, but i imagine they are similarly priced... so why give up performance unless you need more cores?
quick locust
Though running star citizen with that good luck lol
molten bramble
SC runs fine, but too much is being handled by the CPU--the visuals need to be offloaded to the GPU for the heavy load.
quick locust
I tried having it on a HDD some years ago
molten bramble
Ouch
molten bramble
Latest version is probably the most solid since I've been playing it
molten bramble
Ew
quick locust
I didn't have enough ssd space for it back then thats why
But now I do so it runs nicely
Imagine star citizen on ps4/xbone @molten bramble
tender horizon
subnautica runs at like 10 fps at times on the previous gen consoles
very very odd
it sometimes freezes for seconds
latent light
It stutters on my PC
Subnautica stuttered a lot when I had i5-4690K + GTX 770 and also with current R5 1600AF + RX 580
Average fps is like 190-200 but it dips down as low as 40 fps when I'm travelling in a seamoth or sea glider
Also stutter when entering different biomes
tender horizon
whenever i spam the shield gun (not sure what its called) my game just freezes altogether then stays in a loop of 10 fps to 60 fps
digital hill
Damn corsair
Their new dark core rgb pro se doesn't feel right
No rubbery feeling plastic on the sides only on top
weak girder
so....any coders here?
yeah, I do python
floral cedar
So, how do I host a python project online so I can link to my Linkedin and shit for recruiters to see
I've been learning NLP and made a simple chatbot with it but I'll be working on it to make it better and add more options to it
but I dont undestand how to show it to people
weak girder
So, how do I host a python project online so I can link to my Linkedin and shit ...
You can upload your document with all the code to your linkedin I think but theres no way the can check out the program unless the copy it into pycharm/python or whatever
floral cedar
hmm okay
Can't I just turn it into a web app or something and link the url?
you know with sites like wix and all making it so easy to make websites these days
floral cedar
No I'm just asking if it is a possibility
weak girder
yeah I think you can
.
floral cedar
aight thanks
molten coral
Hmm for some reason videos and games have this ‘glow’ on them
restarted my PC and it's gone 
strong breach
magic!
molten coral
weak girder
restarted my PC and it's gone <:uhh:718281783371628654>
no, this is a sign that your pc is infected with 5 trojan viruses.
email us at totallymicrosoft.gmail.com and contact one of our specialists to fix this
latent light
AMD RDNA3 Navi31 with 160 Compute Units, internal performance target to be 2.5x of predecessor RX 6900 XT
turbid verge
and wont release till 2022 most likely
supple bane
could POSSIBLY be late this year
turbid verge
with 0 reason
when you got the recent released 6000 series
plus they have more in the line up that havent been released
supple bane
well they only recently released rx 5000 before that lol
turbid verge
meanwhile you have a supply problem with semi conductors in the market rn
supple bane
rx 5000 was 2019, rx 6000 was 2020, so its perfectly possible for rx 7000 to be late this year
although id rather them properly refine it and release it in 2022
supple bane
eeh, i disagree. but i see your point
the drivers sucked
but the 5700xt outperformed a 2070 super for less
turbid verge
also the rx 5000 series had lots of issues aside from gaming
they dont even work with blender
supple bane
i chose to get a 2070 over a 5700xt so i know the disadvantages
but i kinda regret it considering i paid more for like 15% less performance
and because they were being discontinued i had to get a crappy one that was still in stock lol
2070 super was out my price range
turbid verge
both nvidia and amd stated on their press conference the current gens are to stay for a while
AMD hasnt released 2 of the models that are from the 6000 lineup
Nvidia is releasing the 2060 this month, still no 3080ti or 3050ti or 3050 (judging this from rumours and previous gens)
and if the semi conductor problem keep going for couple more months things will slow down in productions even more
supple bane
i have no plans for upgrading this gen. 2070 still holding up fine. However i will probably build a new pc once rtx 4000/rx 7000 releases
turbid verge
I have, rn have a 1070 anyways. skipped the 20 series
because first gen of a tech is never a good ideia to buy
or its to much of a risk
weak girder
because first gen of a tech is never a good ideia to buy
hmm I wouldnt say so
the 2000's series were overpriced but good
latent light
RX 5000 series could hardly compete with 2070 Super
Then you got RX 6000 series beating RTX 3090
turbid verge
we are talking about the regular 20 series
the super were improved versions of the already original ones
also the 6000 series arent bad no, problem for me
badly works with blender or some softwares that require graphical power
for average gaming guess the 6000 series is fine, for mix gaming and working nvidia is still better overall
also the real time raytracing in the nvidia 30 series is much better since its a big improvement compared to the 1st version of AMD on the 6000 series
latent light
RX 6000 series has slow memory bandwidth especially compared to RTX 3000
But very tight cache latency and huge cache pool
Also very powerful GPU core
turbid verge
which in terms for the avg customer means nothing
solar kestrel
Thats a new word in a language i vagley understand
turbid verge
when all they want is a capable working hardware
latent light
RX 6000 series have solid drivers as far as I can tell, FidelityFX Super Resolution should come out in a couple months to compete with DLSS
weak girder
Then you got RX 6000 series beating RTX 3090
hmmm the rx 6000s series rtx is garbage tho
latent light
It's actually not bad for 1st iteration
weak girder
nvidias was much better
turbid verge
because they saw what Nvidia did
nvidia took a bigger risk for doing it in the first place
meanwhile seeing how it worked amd made their own
latent light
Next gen RDNA3 is gonna have a whole new pipeline for Ray-tracing, a co-processor that handles the new pipeline
turbid verge
would be bad if it didn't
weak girder
lmao
latent light
latent light
the super were improved versions of the already original ones
2060 Super is really just a badly binned 2070 being sold cheaper, 2070 Super is a bad bin 2080 for cheaper
latent light
also the real time raytracing in the nvidia 30 series is much better since its a...
Also ray-tracing still isn't that popular, only 25 games support it out of tens of millions out there
turbid verge
its more a marketing thing. It is popular just not in games
you know nvidia doesnt design cards only for games neither AMD
latent light
Server Compute cards have 3D engine removed from the processor, makes a lot more room for cores that do server and datacenter tasks
weak girder
also Nvidia cards perform better at higher resolutions
latent light
I'm sure higher memory bandwidth is the reason for that
Ampere is designed to be heavily dependant on memory bandwidth, hence why GDDR6X already exists
19.5 Gbps is pretty crazy
Plus large memory bus
RX 6000 series has a big focus on cache, Radeon recreated RDNA caching system entirely and Nvidia is gonna do the same thing with next-gen LoveLace
LoveLace gonna be a wider architecture than Ampere and features a new cache design
Bet you GPU mining craze is gonna be worse next year than it was in 2017
latent light
Very tiny, very fast memory that's built into the processor itself
solar kestrel
ah mk
latent light
There's typically 3 levels of cache
weak girder
What is Cache
annoying thing that you have to clear
latent light
L1, L2, L3
In a decade we could see L3 cache pools so large that they replace VRAM in GPUs
supple bane
I used to be a weed dealer that's about it
You work in construction or something right?
opaque saddle
If L2 is large enough, it can replace L3
latent light
You work in construction or something right?
A while ago
proud trellis
does HDR lower fps if its enabled in windows settings
i found that it was turned on
storm osprey
iirc windows HDR is really bad and shouldnt be used at all
proud trellis
yeah it fucked up my moniter
i thought it was the moniter its self that was broke
but it was the windows HDR
quick locust
windows hdr is awful
they've had so long to do anything about it
but this is the same company that has taken 7 years to switch control panels
proud trellis
im just wondering if the HDR was something that was affecting BF
because my cod runs better now
that i turned it off
quick locust
ah yes giving smoother images compared to uhh
well
90% of screens is 60 so not much achievement
Smoother compared to movies which still do 24 and 25 cause they are used to it
supple bane
i believe on the motherboard website
storm osprey
generic brits are salty?
supple bane
storm osprey
(his name and avatar)
supple bane
Oh I see
latent light
"Motherboard vendors are reportedly releasing revised H410 and B460 motherboards with the H470 chipset to provide Rocket Lake support. This tactic allows them to circumvent Intel's new rules, which only supports Rocket-Lake chips on Z490 and H470 motherboards while not allowing support on H410 and B460. "
digital hill
Lol I bet they secretly now call any h410 and b460 mobos v2
misty geode
generic brits are salty?
salty that we lost the empire
storm osprey
understandable
digital hill
a little salty that the rebels or usa have a larger navy then any european country?
storm osprey
indigo narwhal
storm osprey
just working
proud trellis
THIS IS THE BULLSHIT WHICH I DONT GET
my cpu isnt as 100%
and its stuttery as FUCK
yet cod CW runs fine
strong breach
hmm
onyx coral
and its stuttery as FUCK
turn on vsync
onyx coral
what refresh rate is your monitor
proud trellis
144
onyx coral
if its an option, try 1/2 vsync
proud trellis
wait
I capped my refresh rate at 60hz
and it’s working
FINGERS CROSSED IT CONTINUES
proud trellis
so i tried BFV on 60HZ also and it runs fine , i have capped my FPS to 60 to make sure i dont stutter
what the fuck
digital finch
is it dx12 or 11?
weak girder
for some reason when I stream on discord, my friends always tell me that the stream is 1 fps even though I get good fps in-game
and I always set the streams to 60 fps
opaque saddle
OBS or discord
Coz you need a video capture card for OBS if you got a basic system for gaming
If you need to stream, you will need 960 or 1050 card for running OBS alone
lofty light
Also what's your upload like
molten bramble
for some reason when I stream on discord, my friends always tell me that the str...
Drop it to 30FPS.
weak girder
I tried both
weak girder
OBS or discord
I said discord
lofty light
Tbh discord streaming sucks
opaque saddle
Not sure if you’re running the game on full screen, windows or boarderless
Coz the bit rate is relatively low, manic
weak girder
can running on windowed or borderless help?
opaque saddle
Not sure tho
Coz there isn’t much you can do on discord
I mean you can’t adjust much via discord settings
weak girder
why would you tho?
ancient ridge
because i bought mine for like 240 dollars?
man even if i bought it brand new for 400
i would sell it for 800 lol
weak girder
hmm gpu prices are quite terrible tho
ancient ridge
yeah so strange
lofty light
And you can pick up something else
weak girder
even if youd sell it prices are so high it wouldnt be worth it
ancient ridge
well i got lot of gpu's anyway
and i can try to track down a 3000 series card
also
weak girder
and i can try to track down a 3000 series card
they're not gonna be much cheaper than 800 dollars
except maybe a 3070 or 3060
ancient ridge
yeah i wouldn't mind a 3070
weak girder
but it wouldnt be really worth the upgrade imo
weak girder
yeah i wouldn't mind a 3070
rx 5700 is like the 2070
ancient ridge
3070?
it doesn't really matter upgrade smuthgrade
point is more mooney
even my vega 56 worth like 400
i only got it for like 130
weak girder
yeah ig you could
ancient ridge
are ppl mining like crazy right now is that why prices so fooked?
weak girder
but all your profit on your 5700 is gonna go to buying your new gpu
ancient ridge
cause i heard some chinese ppl buying out new nvidia laptops too
Yeah or I could just save it
weak girder
what are you gonna game with then?
weak girder
yeah ig you could sell them
but tbh I would keep my good gpu
and sell all the others
quick locust
both low supply, mining and scalping is bringing up prices rn
for gpus and ryzen 5000
lofty light
Also low supply of components has actually caused some companies to have to raise prices themselves
Which is why I impulse bought my 3070 when I heard that was going to happen shortly
latent light
quick locust
nice if it turns out true
latent light
I think they can do better
They got ~19% IPC gain going from Zen2 to Zen3 and that's while still being on 7nm node
quick locust
now intel needs to actually get better ipc
latent light
Rocket-Lake is gonna come ahead of Zen3
lilac surge
hey i got a question. I just recently bought bf4, and I've noticed the graphics look kinda grainy, even on absolute maximum settings. Any solution for this?
Would it be the AA?
just realised it is fine in windowed
opaque saddle
Either film grain or filter may caused it
lilac surge
Either film grain or filter may caused it
dont believe film grain is a setting from what ive seen
ah well
i can deal with it
funny thing is i have the same problem with black ops 2
opaque saddle
I don’t have bf4 installed atm, but I shall do a check later on
Do you have a HDR display?
Either ways, Coz I remember my old IPS display was a lower end model, and was dying at that time. Turns out it became so grainy on brightest settings. And it died a few months afterward
lilac surge
Do you have a HDR display?
Do not believe so.
lilac surge
Either ways, Coz I remember my old IPS display was a lower end model, and was dy...
Ok. I’ll check the monitor settings tomorrow then
modern gull
Dont HDR in games just over expose the image? Just wondering, videos i have seen does that
HDR is supposed to do the oppisite
onyx coral
@modern gull HDR is supposed to offer a lot more contrast between light and dark scenes of a given picture, including in games.
modern gull
I am not quiete sure if i understand what you are saying?
Are you saying dark is supposed to be darker and light is supposed to be lighter?
latent light
Yes
modern gull
thats basicaly opisite of what HDR means
latent light
For example, looking at the sun in a game with HDR will be bright like looking at sun irl
proud trellis
proud trellis
oh
onyx coral
hdr is supposed to give a more realistic image, closer to irl
finite torrent
Hey I have hdr on my camera
opaque saddle
Movie looks fine but photos looks really bad on HDR
supple bane
Hey I have hdr on my camera
yeah most phones do now
modern gull
HDR means high dynamic range which means you should get alot of information in shadows/highlights
quick locust
hdr on windows suck
onyx coral
Movie looks fine but photos looks really bad on HDR
idk sometimes when I take pictures it looks nothing like what my eyes see, and when I look at this comparison picture hdr seems to fix that issue
onyx coral
HDR means high dynamic range which means you should get alot of information in s...
Exactly
opaque saddle
I do photography and people have started a trend making their photos into HDR, so it means it looks “dirty”
modern gull
Movie looks fine but photos looks really bad on HDR
Movies are filmed with cameras that have high dynamic range
finite torrent
When I take pictures with my phone they literally look better than my own eyesight
onyx coral
When I take pictures with my phone they literally look better than my own eyesig...
you either have a godlike phone or bad eyesight
onyx coral
My point is hdr isnt supposed to over expose the image tho
No, never is supposed to
proud trellis
when i had HDR off on BFV the dirt looked horrible and so did the sky but when i turned on HDR the dirt looked like it was from IRL and the sky was actually a sky and not just a blinding sight
modern gull
No, never is supposed to
From what video i have seen on HDR it just over exposed image
onyx coral
From what video i have seen on HDR it just over exposed image
bad video then?
quick locust
me neither
finite torrent
you either have a godlike phone or bad eyesight
Well I think it also does a bunch of shit after to make the photo look better
quick locust
I could go hdr eventually
opaque saddle
So portrait (a human in the picture) will make the person looks bad because human is suppose to have contrast on their face
If you wanna get a HDR display, do not get hdr400
quick locust
yeah I know
modern gull
bad video then?
Perhaps. i dont remmeber, there could be several variables to the over exposed image but i am sure i would have tought out and remmeber those variables. but ya i might just not remmeber properly aswell
opaque saddle
Coz it’s the absolute basic on specs sheets
onyx coral
Perhaps. i dont remmeber, there could be several variables to the over exposed i...
An hdr monitor is meant to be built to go really really bright, in order for the hdr effect to work properly, maybe it's just your monitor?
opaque saddle
A very good TN can be as good as low end VA
quick locust
yeah
modern gull
An hdr monitor is meant to be built to go really really bright, in order for the...
I dont have HDR monitor
onyx coral
Well then there you go
opaque saddle
What about your phone?
quick locust
and theres night and day difference between the TN on my laptop and the TN on my desktop lol
modern gull
Well then there you go
Was talking about videos i have seen if that was not clear 😛
demonstrating hdr
onyx coral
I got 2 IPS screen on my desk and one VA
weird flex
quick locust
I just wish I got a non tn laptop
opaque saddle
Nah my old IPS broke and I bought a P3 display afterward
modern gull
bought a 4ms gtg ips monitor, now i cant use motion blur in games anymore
opaque saddle
I saw an ultra wide VA display on discount and scored one
Then I saw a 4K display is cheap AF so I scored for another one
onyx coral
bought a 4ms gtg ips monitor, now i cant use motion blur in games anymore <:OMEG...
you want to use motion blur?
opaque saddle
I bought 3 monitors (and a mini display) in less than a year
modern gull
you want to use motion blur?
The monitor has built in motion blur 😛
onyx coral
quick locust
this 24 in tn was 500 usd, the 27 in version of the same monitor was like 900 for some reason
onyx coral
motion blur vry bad
onyx coral
this 24 in tn was 500 usd, the 27 in version of the same monitor was like 900 fo...
the square law, that's why lol
opaque saddle
USD or EURO
modern gull
motion blur vry bad
If its not to much its great tho
quick locust
usd
opaque saddle
Sorry can’t see
modern gull
gives sligtly smoother image
onyx coral
no motion blur makes me sick honestly
opaque saddle
Coz I’m currently on medication atm
onyx coral
Also low fov makes me queasy
Maybe it's because for half of my life I played minecraft on quake pro setting lol
opaque saddle
I got my 34” VA ultra wide for 386 USD and 27” IPS 4K for $230
quick locust
lol
modern gull
Maybe it's because for half of my life I played minecraft on quake pro setting l...
lol isnt that like really high fov?
onyx coral
I think it's 90
quick locust
I usually do 80-90 fov
onyx coral
the normal fov in mc is 70 and that's good for taking pictures
quick locust
but some games dont allow fov change without messing up
onyx coral
but some games dont allow fov change without messing up
I hate games that don't allow that
modern gull
90 is pretty decent in many games. Some gives you really a fisheye effect and it might seem like to much, example battlefield is kind of like this.
onyx coral
Anyway off to lunch
opaque saddle
I use maximum(I believed that’s 110) for bf1 coz I can see more enemies on the edges
opaque saddle
Bye data, will talk to you on PGS soon
modern gull
for me that is like 106 with 90 fov i think
opaque saddle
Degree
modern gull
which of them is the actuall fov most game refer to as fov?
quick locust
usually horizontal
quick locust
what
latent light
G-sync panels aren't required to meet HDR-1000 specification anymore, so they can now cheap out on HDR implementation
modern gull
which of these are the real fov?
weak girder
74
opaque saddle
I think 120 degree is the real vision for human
modern gull
guys look
weak girder
oh your normal vision
modern gull
one says 90 one say 106
weak girder
idk
supple bane
its 106
opaque saddle
I believed it’s horizontal
latent light
200-220 degrees is a humans perceptual vision
modern gull
oh so i am using techincaly 106 fov then?
supple bane
yes
weak girder
Grim where tf do you get all your info
modern gull
Grim where tf do you get all your info
Google
opaque saddle
I would use larger than that for more benefits in game
supple bane
i have mine cranked in all games so i dont look at the number 🤷♂️
modern gull
I would use larger than that for more benefits in game
I think its high enoug ngl
supple bane
nah man, max that shit out lol
opaque saddle
I mean... you can get more kills with higher number
weak girder
when the fov is too large it just looks horrible
weak girder
things are zoomed out tho
supple bane
things look further a way is the main drawback
opaque saddle
Like better scores, better kills and you can see more on screen
Unless you aims for realistic
modern gull
nice 90 horizontal kind of looks like normal 90 fov less fisheye and all
latent light
I stop increasing FOV before the fish-eye effect becomes noticeable
weak girder
I usually do 90
latent light
I don't want any bit of that fish-eye effect
opaque saddle
But I mean, come on it’s a game, unless it’s a life simulator
weak girder
yeah but the fish eye effect looks quite bad
opaque saddle
Yeah but I realised I got even better score with higher FOV
weak girder
you can set fov to 64 in bfv
ZOOM
opaque saddle
especially I’m using ultrawide atm
modern gull
why do they confuse people with two different numbers. Like in all other games fov look nice at 90 but here its like fish eye. but seems horizontal thing is the reall fov
quick locust
with alt+mousewheel i can just zoom in anywhere on screen
not always practical thoufg
latent light
Higher FOV makes things towards the middle of screen appear smaller which negatively affects visibility
weak girder
with alt+mousewheel i can just zoom in anywhere on screen
why would you?
modern gull
So slider value of 74 = actaully 90 fov means it seems
latent light
I find it easier to aim with lower FOV but drawback is tunnel vision lol
opaque saddle
Wait up can you change that to 16:10 resolution?
quick locust
because one is vertical other is horizontal @modern gull
opaque saddle
Coz our human eye is like 16:10
weak girder
btw I saw increasing your fov can increase your fps in bfv
latent light
It shouldn't
supple bane
So slider value of 74 = actaully 90 fov means it seems
wait your playing that in vr?!
quick locust
its usually the opposite depending on game
modern gull
because one is vertical other is horizontal <@279414895974285314>
Oh soo slider is vertical value then?
modern gull
wait your playing that in vr?!
no my headset is just conneccted
quick locust
yeah slider is vertical fov, while right side is horizontal
supple bane
<:OMEGALUL:562440529573576714> no my headset is just conneccted
oh, i was about to play bf to see if that was a thing
quick locust
in bfv
latent light
Higher FOV renders more graphics assets @weak girder
supple bane
can you actually output to a vr headset tho?
supple bane
if so i need to try that
quick locust
unless the game renders everything
modern gull
can you actually output to a vr headset tho?
probably not
quick locust
cough bad game devs
supple bane
:(
weak girder
latent light
Battlefield V is terribly optimized to this day
modern gull
yeah slider is vertical fov, while right side is horizontal
Ah so basically all other games say 90 fov but they use horizontal value then?
quick locust
usually
weak girder
theres not a huge impact on fps
quick locust
BFV slider is vertical fov but state the horizontal in the description
weak girder
but there still is a 5-10 fps difference
quick locust
i get 200 fps at 1440p maxed in bfv anyway
proud trellis
THE FUCK
modern gull
theres not a huge impact on fps
In certian cases high fov might decrease performance alot
proud trellis
what specs do u have takmikill
iron canyon
i get 200 fps at 1440p maxed in bfv anyway
did you sacrifice your firstborn or what? 
quick locust
2080 ti
weak girder
I mean, you should pretty desperate anyways if you're trying to get more fps by fixing your fov
modern gull
BFV slider is vertical fov but state the horizontal in the description
Yes i got that. but what i was asking is other games use 90 fov but they refer to horizontal fov?
modern gull
Mirror
weak girder
the shittest 2080ti in existence tho <:Kappa:562440529028055040>
no 200 fps ultra 1440p should be prwtty expected
supple bane
no 200 fps ultra 1440p should be prwtty expected
i was talking about his cooler
supple bane
its really bad
quick locust
@modern gull most games refer to horizontal
modern gull
looks like a piss puddle
Was there when i woke up after drinking last night
opaque saddle
I only get 100fps at 1440p lowest settings with recordings on with highest FOV, on my 3600+ 2070S build
quick locust
yeah this gpu cooler is meh
weak girder
I only get 100fps at 1440p lowest settings with recordings on with highest FOV,...
what
modern gull
<@279414895974285314> most games refer to horizontal
Figures as 90 fov would look to much fish eye in battlefield
opaque saddle
BFV
modern gull
atleast now i know horizontal fov is what is the fov i am used to
opaque saddle
I’m getting a really bad headache
modern gull
is that with raytracing on ?
Yes
opaque saddle
I shall go before I passed out
weak girder
oh no
quick locust
i turn rtx off in bfv as theres some areas that tanks or stutters
modern gull
Haha ya
weak girder
rtx is useless in bfv anyways
modern gull
i turn rtx off in bfv as theres some areas that tanks or stutters
DXR*
opaque saddle
Not even full RT
quick locust
well yeah i know
proud trellis
50fps looks horrible for me
modern gull
50fps looks horrible for me
Play long enough on 30 and it will look amazing 
proud trellis
i have my game capped at 60 rn
weak girder
does it help with stutter?
quick locust
im in an intel graphics server where some has to play 2013 games at 600x400
proud trellis
it runs fine lmao
i capped my refresh rate at 60
and fps at 60
runs sweet as a nut
supple bane
i wonder if it has something to do with g-sync then?
weak girder
runs sweet as a nut
these are the things I used to see on yt and only thought were placebo lmao
proud trellis
its still laggy when i first join the game but i dont rlly mind it
i just stand still at spawn for a few seconds and then i can run around fine
weak girder
thats expected
quick locust
probably cpu
weak girder
in bf1 the first 20 seconds ar unplayable for me
weak girder
yes
weak girder
wtf is wrong with your ram utilization
quick locust
3700 mhz, okayden
supple bane
wtf is wrong with your ram utilization
thats to be expected with these settings
proud trellis
holy fuck
weak girder
is that with rtx on?
proud trellis
how come where the FPS counter is it has "D3D12"
quick locust
directx 12 @proud trellis
proud trellis
ohhh
proud trellis
i finally played BF1 normally last night and it felt horrible
it was running fine but it was just horrible playing
i prefer BFV now
weak girder
rly?
weak girder
doesnt water have reflections with RTX off too ?
yes
supple bane
everything has reflections
weak girder
but thats with high post processing
I ususally keep my post process to low because it reduces sharpening
and all my other settings to high-ultra
and taa low
proud trellis
i was stuttering on medium settings when i was testing BFV last night
but when i put it up to high it ran fine
....
modern gull
@supple bane What gpu?
supple bane
2070
supple bane
that was everything cranked
modern gull
oh
supple bane
1440p, ultra everything ray tracing on
modern gull
not to bad
weak girder
I wouldnt play ANY multiplayer with rtx
modern gull
i play with no less than my monitor frame rate lol
modern gull
I wouldnt play ANY multiplayer with rtx
why?
supple bane
ive used it in tech demos to friends and thats it lol
modern gull
i doo
proud trellis
i'd love to play with RTX on
weak girder
and 144hz
modern gull
ah fair enough, there is a reason i only got not higher than 75 hz lol
supple bane
i'd love to play with RTX on
its really fucking cool to play around with for like 20 minutes then it starts to hurt
proud trellis
hurt ?
supple bane
yeah
modern gull
was gonna buy a new 60 hz one but decided 75 would be within reason considering max graphics and framerates
supple bane
your eyes
proud trellis
you know how there is GTX and RTX cards
supple bane
mmm
supple bane
probably not
weak girder
^
quick locust
yeah, the 1010
weak girder
they made the budget and power friendly 1600s series
modern gull
do u think they will still make GTX cards ?
Probably not, they even stopped support for VXGI when raytracing came. Raytracing GI is worse quality to performance ration comparing to VXGI
weak girder
so they might do like gtx 2600 series or something
probs not since the rtx 3050/ti will already be great budget options
proud trellis
why was there no 2050 ? or was there ?
supple bane
no
weak girder
why was there no 2050 ? or was there ?
it would be too similar to the 1660
proud trellis
oh
supple bane
probs not since the rtx 3050/ti will already be great budget options
well they released the 1660ti which basically replaced the 2060. so they could do something similar
supple bane
maybe
weak girder
Im still waiting for the 3050 ti
weak girder
cheap
proud trellis
lol
weak girder
honestly nvidia made the 3000's series almost too cheap
proud trellis
i would get the 3070 out of anything
weak girder
yeah but making them cheap ended in the cards prices going up
supple bane
rtx 4000 will be the perfect upgrade for me
weak girder
rtx 4000 will be the perfect upgrade for me
2070 can still last an extra 3 yeara id say
supple bane
yeah
proud trellis
will they do the same linup , 4070 , 4080 etc ?
weak girder
very likely
supple bane
but, my cpu will need upgrading by rtx 4000. so if im doing a gpu and cpu upgrade i may as well build a new pc lol
weak girder
1080 ti was op in 2016 seeing how it still holds up
supple bane
its still op now,
weak girder
yeah
proud trellis
thats the card that has a shit tonne of Vram isnt it ?
weak girder
a shit ton of horse power
weak girder
id say its like the 2070
weak girder
its way faster than the 2070
what
weak girder
the 2060 was like the 1070 ti so I would expect the 1080 ti to be around 2070 power
proud trellis
when do u guys think i should upgrade or is there no way of rlly telling ?
supple bane
weak girder
when do u guys think i should upgrade or is there no way of rlly telling ?
when prices go down
1080 ti was a kick ass card and I dont get why some people upgrade the 1080ti to 2080 ti
supple bane
ok i remember the gap being bigger
proud trellis
im hopefully moving house in a few months so i might be able to get a new pc if i wanted but idk if there will be any point
proud trellis
oh
weak girder
the upgrade cycle is about 4 years for most people
4-6
but content creators upgrade every year practically
supple bane
yeah lol
weak girder
like shroud
*ahem jackfrags
proud trellis
i think out of everyone they should pay for it
they are the ones making a shit tonne and then they just get sent a new card every year wtf
weak girder
they get their shit for free so
honestly sometimes id love to just contact msi and get a fucking free beast of a pc
supple bane
why msi? 
proud trellis
start YT and become popular
weak girder
weak girder
become a scalper and get hated by everyone
why a scalper
quick locust
money
weak girder
yt has problems ngl
supple bane
its pretty stressful i think
latent light
My brother spends 5 figures on PC hardware every year
supple bane
because its not a secure job and the platform is super volatile
weak girder
yep
proud trellis
only thing that would annoy me would be editing vids but at that point id pay for someone to edit my vids LUL
supple bane
you can be going from loved to hated in hours
proud trellis
true
supple bane
and lose all your income
supple bane
and since you have had little work experience most likely it would be hard to get a job
weak girder
you can be going from loved to hated in hours
nah logan paul still makes truckloads of cash every day
proud trellis
i think that will happen to tommyinnit in a few months tbh
supple bane
also no benefits from youtube
proud trellis
god knows how his channel blew up so fast
weak girder
hes overrated imo
proud trellis
ikr
quick locust
i dunno who that is
proud trellis
some minecraft streamer
proud trellis
who has gained like 6 million subs over lockdown
weak girder
yeah
weak girder
who has gained like 6 million subs over lockdown
hes like 16 or smth like that
weak girder
I see his tumbnails are of extreme originality
supple bane
oh he is just a typical minecraft youtuber lol
proud trellis
i wonder what specs he has
weak girder
1070
supple bane
you can barely see what the thumbnail is actually about because his ugly mush is so big infront of it
proud trellis
oh a 1070
supple bane
not like you need dual 3090's for minecraft lol
weak girder
lmao
proud trellis
ignore the fact i watched that vid
weak girder
one of my friends has an rtx 3080 i9 10900k and 64 gb of ram
he doesnt stream and were in high school
ig he needs it for online class :leo-1:
proud trellis
im not sure who it is but some guy has a 2080ti for minecraft
128gb ram
and a i9
quick locust
lol
weak girder
ooh mumbo jumbo
proud trellis
probs has a 3090 by now
weak girder
and he has a 3090 btw
proud trellis
YES YES YES mumbo jumbo
weak girder
he only plays minecraft
proud trellis
its so weird tho
supple bane
isnt that the redstone guy?
weak girder
yeh
supple bane
mm
weak girder
I only saw 2 vids of him
proud trellis
i only know him because of hermitcraft
weak girder
honestly the only mc youtuber I watch is dream
proud trellis
i watch no minecraft youtubers anymore
only person i used to watch was stampy when i was like 6
lofty light
How about RTGame
weak girder
only person i used to watch was stampy when i was like 6
I havent heard this name in years
lofty light
He's the biggest Minecraft story mode YouTuber 
proud trellis
I havent heard this name in years
his channel is dead nowadays
lofty light
He does show up in story mode
weak girder
his channel is dead nowadays
I assumed 6 year olds still watches him
weak girder
He does show up in story mode
story mod sucked tbh
proud trellis
loll minecraft storymode , i remember that
supple bane
i actually owned that
lofty light
Minecraft story mode is awful
supple bane
i played like 5 minutes of it
proud trellis
lol
supple bane
even as a 7 year old i knew it was crap
lofty light
Which is why I loved the RTGame vids on it
supple bane
it kinda looks like a sticker bomb
quick locust
yeah
quick locust
its on the gpu and motherboard as well
proud trellis
yeah i was aiming more at the mobo
quick locust
nearly everywhere lol
supple bane
tbh i dont get how rads work
what dont you het ?
weak girder
what are these drugs?
proud trellis
so u have the fan on the rad , where does the water travel to get cooled ?
does it travel through the middle ?
idek
lofty light
No
supple bane
no?
lofty light
Each one of those horizontal lines is a pipe
supple bane
are you sure?
supple bane
hmm, well there you go
quick locust
yeah its a ton of horizontal
lofty light
To spread the heat out as much as possible and makes it as close to air temp by the time it gets back to the pump
quick locust
with the fins to increase surface area for the heat
proud trellis
ohhhhh
supple bane
that makes a lot more sense in terms of heat transfer lol
modern gull
man this market is crazy, these are almost msrp prices
older gpu's usually is for some reason, alot of times not worth buying old generation gpu. Sometimes you do find decent deals tho.
woah its even pre owned wtf
storm osprey
yea these are ebay listings
modern gull
lul
storm osprey
SOLD listings
modern gull
oh damn but on top of that they used
storm osprey
a 1080 is BARELY better than a 2060
which should be a 300 dollar card...
3060 is going to murder that price performance too... but stock is the problem
modern gull
idk why they keep higher prices ngl
storm osprey
used market?
modern gull
3060 is going to murder that price performance too... but stock is the problem
Nvidia claims its lack of silicone
storm osprey
covid low stock and cryptocurrency are high
cant only be nvidia since amd has shit for stock as well
seemingly worse from what ive seen
modern gull
probably same silicone vendor or something
Might just be bs to cover their ass lol
btw same issue with ps5, i think manufactures is using the situation to earn more money maybe
like shortage thing or something
storm osprey
cynic will say all these companies decided they can blame covid and other tech launches as sources of low stock, and somehow sell these products at higher prices to make more money
but that sounds a bit farfetched compared to there actually just being a shortage
modern gull
idk what it is lol
storm osprey
what?
modern gull
I mean i dont really know the actuall root cause of the issue
But i did read somewhere nvidia said they had shortage on silicone wafers
storm osprey
i think covid with a bunch of parts coming out and crpyto being high are valid reasons
modern gull
mhm
solar kestrel
if im spending 500 dollars on a gpu you best believe im waiting for a new card to come out
storm osprey
imagine spending 450 on a gpu that will be DESTROYED by a 320 dollar gpu in a couple of weeks...
quick locust
@modern gull nvidia and amd use different foundry rn
But both has massive supply issue
modern gull
Oh i see
quick locust
AMD is using tsmc and ampere is samsung
modern gull
Oh ya
supple bane
I mean i dont really know the actuall root cause of the issue
There isn't a root cause
Its just a bunch of shit hit at the same time
And the more you think the more you realise the high demand
Covid has production ground to a fault
Shipping is very delayed and backlogged
The lockdowns mean more people are playing games thus wanting a new pc
Steam are reporting 50% growth in a single year, all those new pc's have to come from somewhere
Bitcoin price has increased
The performance increase and offered price made it a viable option for a lot of gamers
New games such as cyberpunk see a lot of people upgrading
And the new consoles are absorbing some of the production of electronic components
There are probably more but those are all the ones I could think of off the top of my head
modern gull
Ya i suppose there are several variables to it
supple bane
I might fucking sell my gpu tbh haha
I'm looking on ebay and I could actually make a profit
I paid 375, I'm seeing open bids of 400+
I could basically get a free upgrade
Sell, wait for prices to calm down and get a 3060
proud trellis
ohhh
digital hill
Clean it pr it needs more
the outside dust or debris was from keyboard
and thats a 128mb usb stick
proud trellis
holy shit that keyboard must of been dirty
proud trellis
now you need to clean your desk LUL
storm osprey
tell this man about the dishwasher method
velvet jay
yo i need help with the game performance pls. (its kinda serious)
digital hill
I got 0 diswasher
opaque saddle
Lol
proud trellis
i never let my desk get messy idk why , i just hate it when its dusty and has bits everywhere
opaque saddle
I was asking my dad if he wants to get a dishwasher a few years ago. He is now looking at it hahaha
Those things is better to run during day time with solar power
green lintel
How many GB's are in halo reach
digital hill
36?
green lintel
@digital hill thx
green lintel
@digital hill That what i was looking for
digital hill
Steam usually tells you
green lintel
But it says 43gb
Steam requirment is kinda unaccurate in halo games
digital hill
eeh
green lintel
It said halo 3 require 105 gb
opaque saddle
I usually leave 10% more space for a single game
digital hill
No I only own halo reach
surreal citrus
Steam sale is awesome
green lintel
@surreal citrus Ofc he have to give us the best deals . He has 3 competitors
Or more
digital hill
You get the same verison
green lintel
New beginning
solar kestrel
since i have bf4 already on origins
that wont matter becase when you buy a game like battlefield on steam it also connects to your origin account
It did that for me at least when i got bf3
Also I have my own issue
Whenever i try to download this application for school it asks me to do this
but what should i select
opaque saddle
What is .aia
solar kestrel
there is no desktop option
solar kestrel
solar kestrel
opaque saddle
What about browse..
solar kestrel
and thats it
solar kestrel
opaque saddle
Then you should be able to download it
solar kestrel
ok ill try that
opaque saddle
No worries
solar kestrel
Btw how ya feeling