technology

[proud trellis]

im gonna reach out to the company tomorrow

ando gave me a heads up on what to say

[weak girder]

100% cpu usage even though it shouldn't
stuttering
crashes etc...

am I wrong?

[proud trellis]

no

the list continues actually lmao

[prime jasper]

I’m worried it’s my graphics card tbh

[proud trellis]

what gpu is it

[weak girder]

I dont think so

[prime jasper]

Gigabyte sent out of bunch 3070 bricks

[weak girder]

its can be a faulty driver tho

[prime jasper]

When I first got my nzxt streaming pc it had a faulty gpu

They for some reason had me send the entire pc in for repair

When it came back I have this problem now

It doesn’t always crash

Just like once or twice a day

But it feels like it’s becoming more frequent

[proud trellis]

mine freezes mainly when i open things like epic games and opera

[prime jasper]

And the part the trips me out the most is that I lose power to mouse and keyboard

[proud trellis]

seems like prebuilts are actually so shit looking at this chat more and more

[weak girder]

thats not gpu related

[prime jasper]

When I boot my pc back up...red led turns on DRAM

And then goes away

After about 10 seconds

Seb how do I check if I drivers are good?

[weak girder]

if you have faulty driver symptoms

you reinstall them

black screen and crashes mostly

[digital hill]

If you have 2004 and above windows 10 has a nice feature like mac os where you can reinstall the us on windows itself

without needing a usb

If it ever gets to that point

[prime jasper]

Do you think it could be windows 10?

[weak girder]

no

my friend blames every problem he has with windows

[digital hill]

Its easy to reinstall drivers

[weak girder]

ddu

still need to follow a tutorial to not mess things up

[prime jasper]

Someone on Reddit said that they turned down their core clock with cam and it apparently fixed it

Does that sound right?

[weak girder]

maybe, Im not rly sure

can't see how turning down core clocks might help tho

but you could try it

[prime jasper]

Is it safe to do that?

[digital hill]

Yeah

[weak girder]

yes

worst case scenario your pc crashes and boots back up fine

[digital hill]

It just decrease core clock which doesn't damage it

I don't think downclocking makes your pc crash

[weak girder]

sorry, overcloking does

your right

[prime jasper]

Right now it says it’s 4391mhz

Idk what any of this shit means LOL

[weak girder]

speed

[tender horizon]

megahertz

[prime jasper]

What are normal cpu temps when gaming

[digital hill]

Its relates to cpu temp limit

[prime jasper]

Ryzen 7 3600x

[digital hill]

Whats your cpu and temp your gaming at?

you mean 3700x?

[prime jasper]

Yeah

[digital hill]

Whats the temps?

[prime jasper]

Around 65

To 75

Celsius

I downloaded a gpu driver from gigabyte and not from nvdia

And just ran bfv without any problems

Hmmm

At ultra settings

[digital hill]

Should be fine

max temp is 95c

[weak girder]

always like to keep my temps at 65

but yours should be fine

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Perqf0dOGLk

Actually watch this video!

[weak girder]

already saw it before

it looks awesome but must have terrible cooling

[digital hill]

Not really

this dude designed it pretty well

40 fucking small fans

noctua too

[storm osprey]

He actually does an update to water cooling.

[prime jasper]

That’s so rad

[digital hill]

Damn

[molten bramble]

I would imagine it's loud AF.

Server fans aren't exactly quiet.

[ashen oak]

Is sex robots nd thot bots allowed in #technology

Like discussing it

[prime jasper]

not in this discord

I am sure there are many other discords where you can discuss it

[ashen oak]

Ya alright

Asked cause it comes under technology so...

[prime jasper]

we have some younger people in here

so on that basis its a no

[finite torrent]

Also that's just generally disgusting and shouldn't be talked about in a place like this no matter your age

[ashen oak]

K

[weak girder]

you usually talk about that in a nsfw channel and we don't do that here

[fallen harbor]

(not mine, its a random post i found on fb)

uh ok

[opaque saddle]

not allowed to show the email address of the person

[fallen harbor]

forgot about that

[latent light]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/77467/nvidia-reintroducing-geforce-rtx-2060-super-graphics-cards/

[strong breach]

🤔

i guess that makes sense

cause 20s prices are all around the place

[proud trellis]

is the 3060ti good for 1440p gaming ?

idk if the 3070 would be better to get or the 3060ti

[latent light]

They're not far off from each other

3060Ti uses the same chip as the 3070 just less cores

[proud trellis]

doesnt the 3060ti have more Vram ?

[fallen harbor]

still not possible to sell one of your 2k monitors?

[proud trellis]

i might sell one

[quick locust]

2k is 1080p

[fallen harbor]

if you dont care much about resolution and HZ higher than 60, id sell one and get a 1080p 60hz monitor and a computer fit for it, which would be much cheaper than a computer fit for 2k gaming

[quick locust]

i could consider getting better monitor eventually, bigger and not TN

But not rn

[fallen harbor]

no?

[quick locust]

2K is 1080p

yes

[proud trellis]

apparently 1440p is 2.5k which is just stupid

[fallen harbor]

2k is 2560x1440

[quick locust]

the K system is stupid

[strong breach]

2k indeed is 1080p but that's not relevant

[fallen harbor]

well whatever, ice's monitors are both 2560x1440

[strong breach]

whatever what people call them

[quick locust]

mine is 2560x1440 165 Hz, is nice

[latent light]

@proud trellis 3060Ti and 3070 have 8GB VRAM, RTX 3060 has 12GB

[proud trellis]

ohh

[strong breach]

im on 3440x1440p 160hz

very poggers

[proud trellis]

id rather get a 3070 then grim

idk why

[quick locust]

i want to eventually get something bigger maybe

[strong breach]

wonder why they put 12gb in 3060 lmao

[quick locust]

Since 24 in TN is ok but eh

[latent light]

3060 12GB at $330 is best value option this generation

[strong breach]

that GPU will never be able to utilize all 12gb

[latent light]

12GB is gonna have way more benefit than 8GB in a year or two

[strong breach]

before the game is too heavy for the GPU

[proud trellis]

3060 is alright for 1440p isnt it ?

[latent light]

Yes

[strong breach]

for sure

[proud trellis]

for like multiple years

[latent light]

Maybe

[fallen harbor]

as long as you dont seek much more than 70fps id say

or 80

[quick locust]

depends on game as always

[latent light]

I bet 8GB VRAM wont be enough for 1440p in 2 years

[fallen harbor]

if you want 1440p and over 100fps for a relatively long time id rather get a 3070 or 3080

[quick locust]

or 6800xt

[proud trellis]

unless i just sell one of the moniters like you said ando and get a 1080p moniter

[quick locust]

they're just all gone though rn

[proud trellis]

and get the 3060

[fallen harbor]

do that only if you feel comfortable playing on 1080p

[latent light]

Wait for 3070Ti

[fallen harbor]

the 1660super is good for 1080p, i dont think you need to jump to 3060 unless you want 144fps exclusively

[proud trellis]

thing is , i will have to play on a smaller moniter wont it ? or can you get 27" moniters 1080p

[fallen harbor]

1080p monitors are usually 24"

[proud trellis]

ahhh

[fallen harbor]

from 21 to 24

[quick locust]

there is 27 in as well

[proud trellis]

i like 27" alot

[quick locust]

just lower pixel density obviously

[fallen harbor]

i said usually not exclusively

[proud trellis]

its the perfect size

[latent light]

27" 1080p has low pixel density

[fallen harbor]

probably not perfect for 1080 tho

[quick locust]

i used to do 26 inch 768p

which was terrible in pixel density

lol

[latent light]

I was using 29" 768p not too long ago but didn't play games on it

[proud trellis]

i might just stay at 1440p 27"

[fallen harbor]

if you will use 1440p/144hz id really get nothing less than a 3070

[proud trellis]

its gonna be another few months until i do get a new pc if i cant refund this one

[quick locust]

annoying that i have to buy adapters for wall plugs for electronics but oh well that wont change

[strong breach]

i wouldn't even want a 4k monitor as my main monitor at least

[quick locust]

my pc could do 4k 60 i think

but i'd rather do high refresh

[proud trellis]

i dont like 4k

[strong breach]

same

[quick locust]

1440p high refresh is sweet spot for me rn

[strong breach]

1440p @ 144 is such a nice thing

instead of 4k at 60

[quick locust]

yeah

and 2160p 144 is hard to obtain

[ashen yoke]

its not worth it

[quick locust]

even with 3090 is hard

[ashen yoke]

4k for most people is unnecessary considering how small their screens are

[proud trellis]

thing is if your gonna get a 4k moniter for 4k 60FPS gaming for idk cod or something , its just a waste because on the next cod you will have to play lower settings if you stay at 4k which will just look shit

[ashen yoke]

no not really

[fallen harbor]

its always more improtant to have high frame rate than resolution in fps games

and in cod games its better to play in low graphics actually

cause you distinguish player models more easily

[proud trellis]

i didnt rlly know a game to do an example on so i just done cod as a new one comes out every year

[fallen harbor]

its a very tryhard thing to do

4k is only worth in at least 40" tv screens

or higher

id rather have higher res for movies and shows

and higher frame rate for games

[latent light]

Movies and TV shows majority of the time don't stream over 720p

Sports will sometimes use 1080i

Don't need high resolution for movies lmao

[fallen harbor]

oh right

i keep forgetting that it's not normal in the first world to torrent everything in whatever resolution you can find

there are many 4k torrents out there

[proud trellis]

if i get a refund would R7300X be a decent cpu to get ?

i want to run BF6 alright but idk if the 3700x is bad in BFV

[fallen harbor]

8 cores is really the max reasonable amount for gaming in modern times

ryzen 7 3700x is very good, not to mention 5700

both are high tier and meant for 144hz or 2k or 4k etc

[proud trellis]

might get a R7 then

im just worried i wont be able to get this pc refunded

R7 3700x is decent for streaming aswell isn't it ? as its 8 cores

[fallen harbor]

it depends on how you want to run the game. The cpu you have right now is actually very good and more than enough for 1080p and 100fps on bfv, its just that it came faulty so dont expect mid tier cpus to work like the one you unluckly got

[fallen harbor]

yes

anything higher than ryzen 7 3700 or 5700 is for non gaming purposes

[proud trellis]

i do want to stream later on in the year too when i get all this sorted

so a R7 is probs my best shot isnt it ?

[fallen harbor]

depends on your budget

and what resolution and frame rate you want

etc

[proud trellis]

oh

i might just stick with 1440p

[fallen harbor]

and what frame rate?

[proud trellis]

keep the 1 moniter i have now and sell the other one maybe

im hoping to be able to get around 100 fps ultra settings for BFV and probs if BF6 is alright 70fps high

might get a 3070 tho tbh if i can

[fallen harbor]

for 1440p and 100fps id recommend nothing less than ryzen 7 3700x yeah

maybe ryzen 5 5600 would be close to that

but its doubtful

[proud trellis]

im defo gonna get an 8c cpu

[fallen harbor]

i havent seen many benchmark videos of the 5600 yet

[fallen harbor]

then get 3700 or 5700

[proud trellis]

would you say a 3070 is alright with a 3700 ?

[fallen harbor]

my friend got a 3700x and a 3080 recently which is a good combo

so the 3070 must be decent too

[proud trellis]

yeah

[fallen harbor]

i mean

this is all high tier gaming, so itll be expensive

will probably cost double the price your current pc was

[proud trellis]

idk about the 5700 , the 3700 is like 280 pounds over here so ig the 5700 is like 340 or something

[proud trellis]

if i did get a 3700x with a 3070 it would cost me 1.2k

i already have ram , AIO , and storage

[fallen harbor]

youd need a new motherboard and psu

[proud trellis]

so i just need cpu , mobo , gpu , case and psu

[fallen harbor]

not case

[proud trellis]

why not

[fallen harbor]

why would you need a new case

if you want one sure go get one im not telling you not to lol

[proud trellis]

i wont have a case if i do get this pc refunded

the case i like is 60 pounds

[fallen harbor]

oh ok

what about the ram

[proud trellis]

it looks like it has decent airflow

[fallen harbor]

only 8gb are yours afaik so ull need 8 more

[proud trellis]

i have 2x8 3200mhz ram

i got 16gb for christmas

[fallen harbor]

oh ok

cool

then yeah

[proud trellis]

then AIO is a 120mm rad cooler

[fallen harbor]

itll still be a total of like 1400 maybe

[proud trellis]

i will check now one min

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QDJwHz

the gpu will probs be 100 pound cheaper depending on which one i do get

idk if 750 watts is too much

[fallen harbor]

700 would be enough

id recommend no less than 700

[proud trellis]

yeah

[fallen harbor]

so 700 or 750 would be what id choose

[proud trellis]

yeah i will stick with a 750 then

do you think mobo is too expensive ?

[fallen harbor]

it doesnt need to be gold tho

can

be bronze

[proud trellis]

ohh

why do they have bronze and gold rating

i dont understand it

[fallen harbor]

cant check right now but you can get an xt 570 pr whatever it was called, its the best budget mobo for the 3700 afaik

[proud trellis]

will look

[fallen harbor]

its about power saving

[proud trellis]

ohh

[fallen harbor]

bronze means youll waste only 20% of the energy used, silver is like 18%, gold 15% i think. It basically says how much youll end up paying monthly for energy when it comes to your computer, but it doesnt mean that a gold rated psu is better for your pc than a bronze one

most people will tell you that it matters for your pc or dumb shit like that

[proud trellis]

yeah

[fallen harbor]

id suggest to ignore them

[proud trellis]

i just thought bronze was worse quality then gold and that gold was safer kinda thing

[fallen harbor]

the only thing you really need is to have the sufficent watage and that the psu belongs to a brand with good quality parts, white/bronze/silver/etc categories dont speak for quality, its a different matter

evga and corsair are decent brands, seasonic is the best

[proud trellis]

i dont like the look of the EVGA ones ngl

idk why but imo they look bad

[fallen harbor]

then get corsair

[proud trellis]

i would probs mainly go with corsair yeah

[fallen harbor]

and if you want to have the best, seasonic

[proud trellis]

are seasonic ones more expensive ? or does it depend

[fallen harbor]

yes

they are

[proud trellis]

oh

[fallen harbor]

ive never had seasonic

always went for evga

cause ts much cheaper and still good

[proud trellis]

nahh i think i will stick with a corsair psu

yeah

i think im a bit stubon

i only like a few brands

[storm osprey]

damnit ice

[proud trellis]

oh shit

what now

[storm osprey]

its about models not brands

[proud trellis]

nyphon im thinking about choosing arctic p12 fans btw

[storm osprey]

best bang for buck

[proud trellis]

8 pound

per fan

[storm osprey]

get the 5 pack pwm

[proud trellis]

they wont be forever

just use em till i can get some RGB ones

[storm osprey]

woooow

why spend more money in the end?

[proud trellis]

idk if i will have enough for some RGB fans unless i ask my parents if they can just buy the fans for me and then i buy everything else

want to get some corsair LL120

[storm osprey]

or you can just stick to the better fans and get arctic p12s and leave them

[proud trellis]

the pc will look ded

nothing to it

[storm osprey]

youre a corsair fanboi huh?

[proud trellis]

no

actually i do sound like one

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

[proud trellis]

a corsair psu and now corsair fans

https://tenor.com/view/rgb-rgb-intensifies-intensifies-intense-corsair-rgb-gif-13433637

tbf these look nice

40 pound for 3 of em

[storm osprey]

pfffft

you can get 5 arctic p12 for that price

[proud trellis]

2 fans

extra

[storm osprey]

and they perform better

[proud trellis]

quality over quantity

shit that makes no sense

[storm osprey]

not in this case when its quality, quantity, and cheaper

[proud trellis]

so is there any decent fans around that are RGB

and dont start with arctic

[storm osprey]

wow you an arctic hater?

[tiny sorrel]

arctic do be worth the price

the cheap price

[storm osprey]

i have 7 arctic fans in my case

[tiny sorrel]

i dont have them but what from ive seen there pretty cash

[quick locust]

i just have 180mm fans

stonks

[storm osprey]

once i get my 3d printed part from a friend ill be done with my build and post pictures

[quick locust]

looks like kernel 5.11 is working fine

even on my nvidia pc

would have expected them to take a bit longer

[proud trellis]

no

[storm osprey]

sure sounds like it

[proud trellis]

nyphon send a pic of your pc with the arctic fans

[storm osprey]

i aint home homie

[proud trellis]

ahhh ok

[quick locust]

is 8514 multi and 1477 in geekbench decent for a 8700k

i cant get memory freq higher lol

[prime jasper]

Man I wish I knew one of you guys in person LOL so you can come and help me with this stupid pc

Nzxt want me to send it in for an RMA again. I live in Canada and they’re in California!

SMH

And their tech support is pretty much useless

[storm osprey]

wack

[proud trellis]

BF1 now decided to be ABSOLUTE SHIT

if i dont get a fucking refund i swear to god

[quick locust]

what

[storm osprey]

ice has had constant problems with his prebuilt for a while now

(i say its his fault)

[proud trellis]

its not my FAULT

[prime jasper]

I’m playing battlefield 5 and it says my ram is at 64%

Seems high to me, is that normal?

My gpu is at 90% with a temp of 63

And cpu is at 48 with 64

[storm osprey]

what?

[quick locust]

thats fine @prime jasper

just seem normal

[proud trellis]

depends how much ram you have

[prime jasper]

16gb

[proud trellis]

10gb of ram usage is fine

[prime jasper]

The freezing has become less frequent

[proud trellis]

yeah

[prime jasper]

So idk

I’ve been doing a bunch of stuff

And it’s seemed to have fixed it for a lot of game

[proud trellis]

my computer just freezes randomly when playing games and when not

[prime jasper]

Only ones I’m still having hard time with is Bf1 and bfV

[proud trellis]

yeah

[prime jasper]

I changed my power settings to high peformance which seemed to make it go away for a lot of games

I reinstalled some drivers and got rid of rgb software for my mouse and keyboard cuz I was losing power to them when it would freeze

And I’m able to play bfv right now without any freezing

Usually by now it’s crashed me

[proud trellis]

when mine freezes its like i powered my pc off , my gpu fans stop , and my screen goes black , and then after like 5 seconds it will come back all on

[prime jasper]

Yeah that doesn’t happen to me

[proud trellis]

mine seems to be worse then yours then lmao

[prime jasper]

For me it freezes on the game and I lose power to mouse and keyboard and I have to manually reboot

[proud trellis]

my keyboard and mouse dont disconnect

but i have to reconnect my mic

[prime jasper]

I’m wondering if it’s the psu

Becomes it seems like that’s the one thing these prebuilts usually cheap out on

[proud trellis]

yeah mine is prebuilt but im trying to get a refund for this shit

[prime jasper]

I don’t understand why they would put a 3070 and R7 with a bronze 600 psu

[proud trellis]

what company was it

[prime jasper]

NZXT

[proud trellis]

can you not contact them ?

[prime jasper]

I have been

They’re clueless and want me to send it in for an rma again

Mind you when I first got the pc the graphics card was faulty

And they had me send the pc in for repairs

[proud trellis]

yeah mine had to go in for a "repair" came back and worked for about 3 weeks and went to shit again

[prime jasper]

So this would be the second time...the pc has been in my possession for a total of 2 weeks since I bought it November

[proud trellis]

hmm

i would get a refund if you can

[quick locust]

600 bronze should be fine for it

unless it sucks

[prime jasper]

I think it’s the psu since Im losing power to mouse and keyboard

I think of anything else

[proud trellis]

could be mobo ?

[prime jasper]

It could be mobo

[proud trellis]

as its plugged into the back ?

[quick locust]

likely not psu

psu tend to shut everything instead of freeze

[proud trellis]

either way if i was you i would get a refund if you can , it seems prebuilts are very bad

mine is shit and its a prebuilt

[prime jasper]

I think I just got unlucky tbh because a lot people with my same build love it and have not had any problems

[proud trellis]

do you have any other uses for the pc like school or work

if you dont you could send it back to them

for them to have another look at

[prime jasper]

I do for work and school which what makes this really suck

But I don’t have problems with it when doing other stuff

[proud trellis]

yeah

[digital hill]

What psu is in your pc?

[storm osprey]

evga g3 850w

[digital hill]

and who built your prebuilt?

[storm osprey]

me

[prime jasper]

I run a lot of Adobe creative cloud - video and photo editing, design work and no problems

Prebuilt was made by nzxt

[proud trellis]

are you running anything in the background while playing games ?

[prime jasper]

And I think the psu is theirs

@proud trellis nope

[digital hill]

Talk to nzxt about a replacement psu as they should be decent

[proud trellis]

he doesnt know its the psu tho ?

[digital hill]

Oh

Question are you plugging it into an extension?

If you are plug it into the wall

[prime jasper]

It’s just did it again

And I realized that the fans on gpu stop too

But the other fans keep working

[digital hill]

What's your gpu and cpu?

and check your connectors again

sometimes shipping can cause connectors to be unplugged

and reseat gpu and ram

[storm osprey]

[proud trellis]

when i get nitro imma make an RGB fan

[storm osprey]

ew

[quick locust]

I use three 180mm fans

theyre nice

[storm osprey]

180? thats an odd size

[prime jasper]

Yeh already reseated

Just talked to nzxt again

They definitely think it’s a bad drivers

Doing a fresh install of windows

[quick locust]

yeah @storm osprey i use a rv02e

[prime jasper]

And ddu with gpu drives

Unfortunately I never did a ddu with gpu drivers

I just updated them

This could very well be the problem since it’s only happening with really demanding games

He also asked me if I had cortex installed which apparently is known to cause theses issues

I don’t but idk @proud trellis if maybe you do

[proud trellis]

razer cortex ?

[prime jasper]

Yeah

[proud trellis]

wait , could cause the freezing ?

[prime jasper]

Apparently it’s a known issue

[proud trellis]

imma uninstall it

[prime jasper]

Damn hope that was it! And it fixes it for you dude

[proud trellis]

hope so

razer cortex i wouldnt imagine caused it tbf

[prime jasper]

I really don’t know but he said it’s known to have caused it for a lot of people

[proud trellis]

jeeez

wait it cant be razer cortex

because my pc froze like 20 mins into me having it running when it come back from scan

and i never had cortex installed

[prime jasper]

Idk tbh

Worth a try still it might be making it worse

[proud trellis]

true

[prime jasper]

What program do you guys recommend for monitoring performance

Like a hud overlay

That displays temps and fps

[quick locust]

mangohud or rtss (rtss needs hwinfo64 or other additional software)

[prime jasper]

Okay thanks

[steep forge]

i need help

my computer seems like it's gonna explode

each time I run the Battlefield 1

:(

[prime jasper]

I guys I think doing a ddu and reninstalling my gpu drivers fixed the issue!

[storm osprey]

niceee

i always do clean installs when changing hardware like that

[prime jasper]

Dude it crashed again

Seems to be only bf5 and 1

Every other games works like a charm

Is there anyway to fix those games

Is it maybe origin or waylay

Ea play

[storm osprey]

@quiet mortar people want pc talk here so do the following

!!build

[silent oasis]

1. What's your budget/currency and country of purchase? Any preferred physical/online shops?
2. Gaming? Streaming? What's your resolution/FPS targets? What games are you playing?
3. Not gaming or professional/hobby use cases? What are the applications you will use and workload involved? Kindly elaborate as much as possible.
4. What else do you need to buy? (monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, speakers, Windows, WiFi)
5. Anything else you want to tell us? RGB, Small Form Factor, already have a part list? Tell us!
6. If you have a build list and are looking for a second opinion or are upgrading an existing system, please have a PCPartPicker permalink for it (https://pcpartpicker.com/list)

[proud trellis]

try and repair game files ?

[prime jasper]

@proud trellis I did and didn’t help

I want into task manager though while running the game and found something I that looked weird

Power usage was on “very high” for bfv

Is that normal?

This could be why it’s freezing and I’m losing power to my m&k

?

[proud trellis]

very high just means its using high ammounts of power

i think everyone gets it

[prime jasper]

Yeah but not everyone freezes and loses power to m&k

LOL

[steep forge]

!build

[storm osprey]

@steep forge you need perms to do that, which is regular or nitro booster in this case

[steep forge]

awwww

:(

[quick locust]

Remind my self: 5.1 GHz is tempting but don't try it anymore

Got hard locked

[storm osprey]

build is done

[molten coral]

Clean

[proud trellis]

OMFG

them fans look so nice

[digital hill]

Nice industrial look

[proud trellis]

what case is it

[storm osprey]

fractal design, define c

i wouldnt buy this case now, theres definitely better

but i bought this at launch like 4 years ago

[proud trellis]

looks nice tho

idk if i should get a lian li case if i do manage to get a refund

[digital hill]

lian li cases are pretty good

[proud trellis]

i like them due to there being alot of room and there are a shit tonne of fan slots

[tiny sorrel]

thinking on getting the Corsair 725, is it any good?

[storm osprey]

"good" sure

better thermals for cheaper? very likely

[tiny sorrel]

ah ok

[storm osprey]

lian li 215 is bang for buck king right now for thermals

(at stock)

[tiny sorrel]

how much?

[storm osprey]

msrp is 80

[proud trellis]

i want to get the 011 from lian li

[storm osprey]

but its really good so its been OOS since people found out about it

[tiny sorrel]

not surprised

[storm osprey]

oo even better its actually 70

[proud trellis]

nyphon do you think a case is worth 135 pounds

[storm osprey]

personally no, i think 90% of gamers can use something like a lian li 215 or phanteks p300/400 that cost under 80 bucks commonly

[weak girder]

no

[tiny sorrel]

those are really good temp

sheesh

[proud trellis]

its a nice case

[tiny sorrel]

it do be a nice case but for 140ish bucks and no fans

[storm osprey]

^

[weak girder]

^

[storm osprey]

and you know im in the camp of price to performance

looks dont mean much to me

[tiny sorrel]

but you build looks really nice

[weak girder]

rgb fans are worth it imo

[proud trellis]

is there actually any RGB in your pc nyphon ?

[proud trellis]

ikr

[weak girder]

too much rbg looks bad

[tiny sorrel]

there need to be a balance

and nut be unicorn trow up

[weak girder]

when the wwater cooling's rgb, the ram's rgb and the fans are all over the place it looks bad

[storm osprey]

thankfully buying all black parts generally correlates to good price since its basic

i spent maybe 20 bucks more in total to keep everything black

[tiny sorrel]

that isnt bad

only $20

[proud trellis]

i have an idea to become mutual with nyphon

[weak girder]

all black looks good

[tiny sorrel]

agreed

[proud trellis]

if i did get the lian li 011 i would get RGB for the side slots and top , and then none RGB for the bottom slot and rear slot

[storm osprey]

i had a black and orange build before this, orange is my favorite color and i like the all black more

[storm osprey]

the gpu is rgb, when pc is powered on i have it sent to orange

[proud trellis]

ohh

[tiny sorrel]

a little touch of orange would look nice

[weak girder]

yeah

black and orange go well

[storm osprey]

that was the orange before

[weak girder]

KAT

[storm osprey]

orange fans, ram, heatsinks, pcie slots, and light

[proud trellis]

red is for RGB fans and BLUE is none RGB

sound any good nyphon ?

[storm osprey]

FUCK NO

[proud trellis]

EHH

[storm osprey]

if theres one thing i hate more than RGB is being inconsistent

[tiny sorrel]

most of the time all the fans in a Li 011 all the fans are rbg

you never see a non rgb fan in them

[proud trellis]

it would pretty much look like that

[tiny sorrel]

that doesn't look bad

like it ngl

[proud trellis]

it looks nice

unless i just get a none RGB fan for the back as a rear exhaust

[tiny sorrel]

yea

but would look off tho

[storm osprey]

yea you dont buy a case like that to NOT get rgb fans

[proud trellis]

i admit at day time it would but ig at night you wouldnt be able to tell

[storm osprey]

its all glass, that basically says its gonna be a showoff build

but at the same time if it doesnt have a 5600x/5800x/10700k and a 6800xt/3070/3080 in it that extra case and fan money could have been used elsewhere

[proud trellis]

another thing is tho , i only have a 120MM AIO which i would probs put on the read fan slot

i am hoping to get a R7 3700X with a 3070

[storm osprey]

lian li 215 with fans for 70 bucks vs lian li mini and even arctic fans is gonna be 200 bucks...

thats 130 bucks towards a better gpu

EASILY getting you a step up

why a 3700x?

[proud trellis]

cuz man is a streamer innit

in the future i would like to stream and with the release of BF6 i dont think a 6c cpu will be good enough

[storm osprey]

but theres 5800x/10700k/11700k

wait youre at 1440p right?

[magic gust]

Talking about content creating, what do youtubers/twitch stream use to record gameplay

[storm osprey]

idk shit about that really, but i know theres capture cards called el gato or something like that

[proud trellis]

i suppose they use elgato or something isnt it ?

yup

[proud trellis]

ye

[storm osprey]

ok 3700x isnt a bad choice in that case

[magic gust]

Yeah elgato makes a lot of stuff for content creating

[proud trellis]

do u think 8 cores would be enough for BF6 nyphon ?

[digital hill]

Yeah

[storm osprey]

i think 6c12t will be enough for just gaming for at least 5 years

will some games benefit from more cores? for sure, will it be NECESSARY to have 8c? fuck no

[proud trellis]

its like i have PTSD from being pinned at 100% on task manager with 6c

ngl

[digital hill]

we are still in the transition era as before ryzen was ever made 4 cores were still mid range

[storm osprey]

your pc is fubar so i wouldnt take anything from that as indication of anything

other than to not get a prebuilt and youre personally cursed

[proud trellis]

i think i am cursed lol

might need to go see the priest

[lofty light]

Still need good single core nowadays

[latent light]

Recommended CPU for refresh rate:
60Hz/75Hz/85Hz - Ryzen 5 1600; i7-2600K or higher
100Hz/120Hz - Ryzen 5 2600; i7-4770K or higher
144Hz - Ryzen 5 3600; i7-7700K or higher
Beyond 165Hz - Ryzen 5 5600X; i5-10600K or higher

[prime jasper]

I reseated my gpu and now I’m not getting any signal to my display port

😳

[fallen harbor]

it's a common mistake not to push the gpu hard enough

[prime jasper]

So I should re do it but make sure it’s in all the way

Even though it clipped in

?

[fallen harbor]

yes

clipping doesn't mean it's necessarily well put

i mean

i can't tell what's the situation in your case ofc

i can only tell you what tends to happen to some people

maybe you did put it well

but fucked it up in some other and more obscure way

[prime jasper]

Okay

I’ll give it another go

Thanks

[fallen harbor]

np

[prime jasper]

Still no signal 😩

[fallen harbor]

did you reseat everything?

the ram too?

because what i said applies for the ram as well

[prime jasper]

No ram wasn’t touched

I reseated that the other day and it worked fine

[fallen harbor]

🤷

[proud trellis]

should get a reply from scan In like 10 hours

hope I can get this shit refunded ASAP

[storm osprey]

havent you tried already?

[lofty light]

Got my 3070 at the post office today

[digital hill]

Damn

[storm osprey]

yeeeee boiiiiii

[proud trellis]

Wrote a message explaining in detail with Andos help

[storm osprey]

well good luck

[proud trellis]

@storm osprey Logitech do be using the same mouse mat as yours

[storm osprey]

lol yep thats my mousepad xD

aqua control + ROB

[proud trellis]

i don’t like the mouse mat tbh

I suppose it looks good on some desks but not all

[storm osprey]

ice

rock

ice my buddy

its not about looks

[proud trellis]

WHAT

[prime jasper]

How hard is it to build a pc?

Am I gonna regret that experience too?

LOL

[proud trellis]

it’s not hard after watching a shit tonne of LTT

[storm osprey]

its not hard, first time with basic parts while watching youtube should take 2-3 hours

once youre comfortable sub 1 hour

the "hardest" part is compatibility (which pcpartpicker mostly takes over for), and troubleshooting IF you have problems

[prime jasper]

I’m not too nervous about putting the build together

It’s the software stuff that scares me

[storm osprey]

thats the easiest stuff

unless you get a cpu/mb that needs a bios update

[proud trellis]

installing windows is easy looking at it

[storm osprey]

otherwise most everything is plug it in and then download drivers online

[prime jasper]

The other thing I’m nervous about is it’s nearly impossible to find cards in stock

[storm osprey]

yea that sucks

[proud trellis]

ahhh shit

I didn’t think about that lol

[weak girder]

for me the hardest part is turning it on for the first time

[proud trellis]

my worst fear is dropping the cpu

[weak girder]

PLS WORK PLS WORK PLS WORK

[proud trellis]

just say your prayers and you will be fine

[weak girder]

eh

[proud trellis]

it’s because the pins can break easily

[storm osprey]

i HATE that first turn on where it boot loops 2 times and then everything is fine

[weak girder]

oof my temps were at 90

shouldnt go on google classroom and run meet at the same time as rdr2

[storm osprey]

It’s like that meme I made

[prime ore]

be like that though

can confirm as a dutch persoon

wait juice is not jus

juice is sap

jus is the water in the pan with the meat.

[digital hill]

I remember that little bit of dutch

[prime ore]

dutch isn't too difficult if you know english

same the other way around in my case

[prime jasper]

English is similar to most Germanic languages because it partially came from it

I’m learning German right now and am surprised by how many words are nearly identical

[proud trellis]

are you taking the FUCKING PISS

"we cant offer you a refund"

absolute joke man

[opaque saddle]

You meant the prebuilt machine?

[proud trellis]

yes

[weak girder]

ah fuck

excuse me your pc is shit

"nah man so soz cant take a refund"

[proud trellis]

i am gonna send them a video of what games look like

if they run normally now that i am recording it for them im gonna pass out

[weak girder]

plus they gave you shit ram didnt they?

and you had to change it?

[mild siren]

What happened?

[proud trellis]

LOLLL he said to me "i recommend YOU get 16gb ram as 8gb could be the problem , i do already have 16 but its not the point

[opaque saddle]

He simply can’t run bfv with his built. Problem unresolved

Anyway check whether your pc is running at dual channel

[weak girder]

who

[proud trellis]

scan

[proud trellis]

it is

he is pretty much saying 1440p is the issue

[weak girder]

they stoopid

[opaque saddle]

What res are you running tho

[weak girder]

didnt you litteraly change every setting possible

[proud trellis]

yes

i played low settings at one point and it was running like a slideshow

[opaque saddle]

Reinstall windows

Can’t help much coz I don’t exactly know what your rig is like

There’re many potential issues and i wouldn’t know what really causes it

As you have mentioned, the temp is normal

[weak girder]

did you check for malware?

[proud trellis]

windows defender picked nothing up

[opaque saddle]

Windows defender is much better these days

Do you have RTX VOICE installed?

[weak girder]

nothing occupying a lot of ram and cpu either

I remeber it was just bfv eating it all up

[proud trellis]

the only thing i could think that is taking up my cpu is discord but even with it closed and not running in the background i still cant run BFV/BF1

[weak girder]

discord isnt very intensive

lol

[proud trellis]

mine is

sometimes

[molten coral]

reinstall discord?

[opaque saddle]

Reinstall windows

[proud trellis]

done that before and it done nothing

[weak girder]

I just think they put in low quality parts

which made them break down a lot faster than if you built it yourself

[proud trellis]

i think they are saying that 1440p IS my issue

[weak girder]

1660 s isnt rly for 1440p but come on

[proud trellis]

surly is wouldnt make MOST games run badly

like even BF1 a five year old game this year is it ? and i cant even run that

SMOOTHLY

[weak girder]

it can run bf1 in 1440p

and even bfv at high

and you changed the res

[proud trellis]

i used to be able to play ultra 1440p

and get around 80FPS

[weak girder]

wow

yesh

[proud trellis]

but now its like a bouncy castle

[weak girder]

hahha

yeah like i said

low quality parts that broke down

in no time

[proud trellis]

yup

they want me to call them

now i have to wait all year to get a new pc

because i have to save

[weak girder]

so your stuck with a shitty pc for a year?

[proud trellis]

yes

[weak girder]

and assholes wont refund you

[proud trellis]

i dont see why they wont refund me

"ARGHHH ITS STORE POLICY"

[weak girder]

scam

thats why they wont refund it

[proud trellis]

they will full on just reinstall windows and sell it on for another ammount of money

[weak girder]

or they just think your dumb and havent try to solve the problems

[proud trellis]

yup

the person trying to help me seems alright , i guess its not his fault he cant get me a refund as he is only an employee

just annoying

[weak girder]

maybe they put old parts in your pc

[proud trellis]

probably knowing my luck

[opaque saddle]

What is your PSU tho

[proud trellis]

450 watts lol

[opaque saddle]

What brand

[mild siren]

God I hate the crap PSUs that they put in pre-builts a lot

[proud trellis]

corsair

[opaque saddle]

What model

Open the case window and look at it

[proud trellis]

VS

[proud trellis]

yup , i just checked and its like 40-50 pound psu

[opaque saddle]

Vs450?

[proud trellis]

yeah

[opaque saddle]

80+ white

Are you using a powerboard?

[proud trellis]

powerboard ?

an extension cable ?

[idle leaf]

The one with a row of plugs

yes also called that i think

[proud trellis]

ohh yeah yeah i am

[latent light]

Surge protector?

[proud trellis]

those he is on about i think

[latent light]

What motherboard does your prebuilt have

[idle leaf]

Yes ,

that

[opaque saddle]

Plus your Cord to the wall directly

Then run it once again and see how it goes

[proud trellis]

i dont even know

its like 80 pound is all i know

ASUS TUF H310M-PLUS GAMING

[opaque saddle]

Plug your PC to the wall directly

Without the board

[proud trellis]

i cant rlly , the plug socket is to far

from my desk

[opaque saddle]

Move it

[idle leaf]

mmm ye

moove

the whole setup

Across the room :3

[opaque saddle]

Hopefully you didn’t plug in a powerboard that gives 10 or 20 devices power all at the same time

[proud trellis]

it has 4 sockets

1 by my power supply and the other one is my moniter

[opaque saddle]

Do you think the other 2 draws more than 1500w?

[proud trellis]

i will see if i can move my computer near to the socket to see

[opaque saddle]

I can’t think of anything outside the box right now

[proud trellis]

idek what to do

cant get a refund , so im stuck rlly

[weak girder]

I proposed to sell the parts individually

[idle leaf]

good idea but theyre shit parts by the sound of it

[weak girder]

maybe its the combo of it all?

he can sell them as used but that would be pretty assholic since you dont know of the parts are shit

[idle leaf]

yeah

id propose doing a fulll revision of it and then sell it off for a couple hundred

like 2 hundred

less

[weak girder]

@proud trellis maybe just dont spend too much on a new pc

maybe dont get the 3070

[idle leaf]

How much was that one?

[weak girder]

idk

[opaque saddle]

Did you RMA it

[vast crane]

Bonjour

[idle leaf]

worrying my prebuilt will go to shit in a few years

[proud trellis]

are you in pounds ?

[idle leaf]

no,

euros

[proud trellis]

oh

[idle leaf]

i can check conversion

[proud trellis]

it would be 897 euros then

[opaque saddle]

Wow

[idle leaf]

how old is it?

[proud trellis]

like 8 months

[opaque saddle]

I can get the same PC for 830 AUD

[idle leaf]

bruh thats

not fun

now very worried

[proud trellis]

all i wanted was a refund tho

[idle leaf]

shitty that they wont give one to you

[proud trellis]

dont see why i cant get one

[idle leaf]

neither

[proud trellis]

yeah its policy

[weak girder]

cant argue?

[proud trellis]

but not like im gonna make the company bankrupt

[idle leaf]

they’ll keep their money and thats that though

[opaque saddle]

Unless you found an issue in the first week you bought it

[idle leaf]

grreeed.

[weak girder]

thats dumb

[idle leaf]

Duh

[opaque saddle]

Unless

[weak girder]

issues dont usually come the forst week lol

[proud trellis]

my issues first started about 4 months into having it

[weak girder]

the first week your setting it up

[opaque saddle]

I bought a new laptop and it is DOA

Ended up getting a refund after a few doa

So what I got was, a dead machine out of the brand new product box

[weak girder]

💯

[proud trellis]

rlly wish i built my own pc

[opaque saddle]

For 3 times in a row

[proud trellis]

should of listened

[weak girder]

to who

I thought your parents wouldnt let you build it or smth

[proud trellis]

me

[opaque saddle]

Did you ask for a repair?

[proud trellis]

it went to be "repaired" like 2-3 months ago now

but went to shit again

[opaque saddle]

What did they fix

[proud trellis]

i dont even think they did anything apart from reinstall windows and do the benchmarks

i have all the pics on my pc

[opaque saddle]

Reinstall windows then

[idle leaf]

Mmm yes

repairs

[weak girder]

hahha

[proud trellis]

i did the first time it had issues and it done nothing

[weak girder]

probably wont do anything

[proud trellis]

ask granty , he helped me reinstall it and it done jack shit

[weak girder]

if he reinstalled it twice it aint gonna be third times the charm

[opaque saddle]

So did you install that on your SSD

Or HDD

[molten coral]

I mean that is standard procedure for a lot of companies when there isn't a defect on the hardware itself.

[weak girder]

can installing on hdd cause stutter?

[opaque saddle]

Depends

[weak girder]

I thought it was just long loading time

[opaque saddle]

If he got a windows that was glitchy

[proud trellis]

think everything is glitchy tbh

[idle leaf]

Reinstall everything

[opaque saddle]

I had the experience before where windows installed on my hdd, everything was glitchy

HDD usage went all the way to 100%

With no background task running

[idle leaf]

Bwuh

[weak girder]

probably not

[opaque saddle]

That was like 9-10 years ago

[weak girder]

I already saw his task manager

[idle leaf]

lm a o

[opaque saddle]

I need the all info when it causes FPS drop

Unless

There is a capacitor that went missing or bent

Or CPU socket pin got bent

[weak girder]

thats falling in unknown land

[opaque saddle]

We got no idea what actually went wrong

[weak girder]

and quite hard to check

[proud trellis]

i would literally let them take it and "fix" it but i have all the online school to do

[weak girder]

I just stick to low quality parts go ded

[weak girder]

dont your parents have an old laptop or unused computer

[opaque saddle]

Wait up a sec

[mild siren]

Yeah probably

[opaque saddle]

@proud trellis do you have the benchmark of your 9400F?

Like userbenchmark or something that stated something like 70% WORST

or something

I think I have seen one of your pic

Can’t remember

[proud trellis]

i done one like 4 days ago and it was like 87%

[opaque saddle]

Do it again

To find out what was the issue

[proud trellis]

can i do it later and ping you

i have an online lesson rn

[opaque saddle]

Right sure

Do every single one of the test

Coz I remember maybe you were saying one part had an extremely low score

as far as I remember r

[proud trellis]

i know something was a very low %

[opaque saddle]

What was that

I remember one of it has relatively low marks

[proud trellis]

im not sure , i think it was a storage device

im out of my lesson in 10 mins so i will do the benchmarks

[opaque saddle]

Gonna take a nap anyway

Ping me with the result

[proud trellis]

ok

[quick locust]

userbenchmark is awful

[proud trellis]

how

[quick locust]

It's useless, use prime95 or geekbench or cinebench instead

[opaque saddle]

He wanted to compare his result to others to figure what actually went wrong on his machine

Not comparing from other parts to other parts

[prime jasper]

I am now not getting any signal on my display at all

Reseated my gpu to see if it would fix the freezing issue

And now I don’t get any display signal (made sure it was seated properly)

And a red vga led on mobo

[supple bane]

do you have a cpu with an IGPU ? or a spare gpu lying around ?

[mild siren]

@prime jasper Did you plug the cable into the GPU or the mobo?

(Gotta pug it into the gpu)

[prime jasper]

Gpu

I’m just sending back in for repairs

For the second time LOL

But they said if they don’t fix it this time I can get a full refund

[rustic plank]

Anyone knows what is a LaunchPad app its about changing servers.

Start the LaunchPad application.
In the upper left-hand corner, click on the Version link (you may be prompted to log in).
Use the drop-down menu under 'Select Game Version' to choose either US Servers or EU Servers.
Click 'Apply' to change your selection.

I have to do these steps

Please ping me if you know !

[finite torrent]

You mean a vpn

[rustic plank]

No its about server preference I think

[storm osprey]

guess who just got a 5600x

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-4th-gen-6-core-12-threads-unlocked-desktop-processor-with-wraith-stealth-cooler/6438943.p?skuId=6438943

apparently bestbuy is having a pretty big drop of stock for these

[proud trellis]

not you

is buying the windos 10 key thing worth it

the ones that are like 100 pounds

[digital hill]

Holy shit I can buy it now

Eeh I have 3rd gen already

[storm osprey]

i actually got one for a friend

[proud trellis]

does it bring anything tho apart from removing the water mark

[digital hill]

also seems like best buy does deal with bots better then newegg

@proud trellis Customization and thats it I think

[proud trellis]

is it worth it tho ?

i dont think it is