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opaque saddle
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Think about this, you are tapping on your phone

wintry wadi
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It’s sorta like the iPhoke 7 home button right

opaque saddle
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But it had a haptic feedback that feels like a click

wintry wadi
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I tried it in person

opaque saddle
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Yeah

wintry wadi
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Yeah it’s like the iPhone 7

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It feels insane

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I kinda want it just cuz of that tbh 🥵

opaque saddle
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And the MacBook Pro that I have, the trackpad is still larger than my iPhone

wintry wadi
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Haha

opaque saddle
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And I didn’t plug in the mouse for general tasks, or even in creative works

wintry wadi
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Ohhhhh wait

modern gull
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You guys still want mac's even tough there is so little software choises?

wintry wadi
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That’s one thing

quick locust
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the 1400 usd macbook air beats my sisters 1500 huawei matebook so much its not even close lol

wintry wadi
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What do you do with mice @opaque saddle

opaque saddle
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For light gaming

wintry wadi
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I meant

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Only bluetooth?

opaque saddle
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USB

wintry wadi
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Since no usb a

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🤔

opaque saddle
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Nah I do have a decent desktop, I use a USB C to A adapter

quick locust
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my 2019 laptop doesnt have usb C

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which is meh

wintry wadi
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So I’d just need a female usb a to usb c adapter?

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To use a mouse

opaque saddle
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Apart from the power supply cable, I don’t plug in anything for the most of the time

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You can choose a Bluetooth one

quick locust
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I plug in ethernet most of time

wintry wadi
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Eck

quick locust
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and power

wintry wadi
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Bluetooth doesn’t feel right for me when it comes to mice

opaque saddle
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Or USB C MALE to USB A FEMALE

wintry wadi
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Well I heard the trackpad is godly

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Right

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Like it’s one of the best in the world

opaque saddle
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Nah the mouse feels weird in macOS

wintry wadi
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What’s weird

opaque saddle
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Even the trackpad can do the job, as good as a mouse

plucky dove
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☠️BF4

quick locust
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I pretty much only use trackpad on laptops, but i dont do any gaming or the like on them anyway

wintry wadi
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I’d only use a mouse for gaming

modern gull
quick locust
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Desktop I got all wired periphials

opaque saddle
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I have never seen people using a MacBook with a mouse for general tasks tbh

wintry wadi
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Yeah

quick locust
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I had wireless before but i dont want anymore

wintry wadi
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My Logitech mouse has 3 year battery

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I’ve used it since 9th grade

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No batteries changed

plucky dove
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My PC it windows 10 and GEFORCE 750 but as ll my Games lagg 100,000 ping and I try to fix it and also my INTERNET 5G

quick locust
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750 PensiveFish

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play singleplayer games or use wired

modern gull
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100k ping kekleo

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Try and get better signal, and reduce graphics. ez fix

latent light
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Nvidia roadmap:
LoveLace on Samsung's 5nm node in 2H 2022, Hopper on TSMC's 5nm node in 2024.

mild siren
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5Ghz or 5G?

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Because 5G is 5th Gen mobile internet

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And 5Ghz is usually a local network that is better than 2.4Ghz ones

tender horizon
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use 2.4 ghz if you're far from your router @plucky dove

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5ghz if you're close

glossy plinth
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gonna have to ping @storm osprey

modern gull
wintry wadi
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Hehe

modern gull
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you gonna get that m1 tho?

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it costs like 1.8k EUR ish here

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expensive

misty sapphire
mild siren
molten coral
proud trellis
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very clean

proud trellis
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hopefully get my ram tomorrow , is this right way to install it ...

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unplug everything from my pc

then put my hand on my psu and turn on the psu switch at the back to remove static

then install ram and turn pc back on

storm osprey
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I usually just turn off pc, unplug psu, and touch metal and then work on pc

proud trellis
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would it be fine to touch my psu then ?

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like just put my hand on it for a few seconds and then change the ram

molten coral
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I never really do anything special I just open my case and do stuff

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Never had any issues

coarse nimbus
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can also unplug/turn off psu and then hold the power button down to discharge what power is left over

proud trellis
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might do that yeah

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just dont want to either break my pc or kill myself on christmas day

storm osprey
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per jayztwocentz its stupid hard to mess up a computer

fallen harbor
modern gull
weak girder
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guys my external 1080p monitor feels blurry even though I set it up a my main monitor

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however 144hz feels noticeably smoother

proud trellis
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hopefully when I turn on , all goes well

modern gull
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or do you have like 4x sticks or only 2 ram slots?

proud trellis
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only 2

modern gull
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ah i see

proud trellis
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hope a goes well when I turn it on tho lol

modern gull
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Probably will

weak girder
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I cant go back to 60hz now

modern gull
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i mean you cant really fit wrong ram into those slots i am sure

weak girder
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now I understand

proud trellis
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60hz is trash

modern gull
proud trellis
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I remember when I changed to 144 I was like holy shit

modern gull
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got 75 hz now tho. better motion compared 60 hz

weak girder
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I still run rdr2 at 40 fps and it still feels ok

supple bane
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did it work? @proud trellis

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the ram ?

modern gull
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They are staling for tension kekleo

proud trellis
modern gull
proud trellis
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it’s glowing so ig its working ?

modern gull
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lol do you see fire?

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if no fire you should be safe

proud trellis
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nope

modern gull
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do you have windows installed tho?

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i mean so you can see if it boots right away

proud trellis
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yeah

modern gull
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nice

proud trellis
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oh

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something isnt right

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my headset is making some weird noise , it is new tho

modern gull
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the headset is new or the sound?

proud trellis
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the headset

modern gull
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try your old one see if same noise

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also are you using onboard audio?

proud trellis
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SHIT

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my old headset is making the noise too

modern gull
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hmm

modern gull
proud trellis
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how do i check

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idk what that is

modern gull
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that is if you plug audio plug into mother board. or case connector

proud trellis
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its plugged in at the front of my case

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near the power button

modern gull
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try different port

proud trellis
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ok

modern gull
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btw these sounds is the reason why i never really use onboard sound card

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many times you get sounds like this from the mother board

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last time i used onboard i remmeber i could hear the framerate of my gpu lol

lofty light
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Wow you guys get really crappy inbuilt apparently

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Honestly I've lucked out

proud trellis
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right so

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i put it in the back ones

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and its working fine

modern gull
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great!

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ez fix 😛

lofty light
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So dodgy cables or ports on the front I guess

proud trellis
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yeah

modern gull
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probably

lofty light
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Could also be interference from other cables if they're tied around each other internally

modern gull
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porly isolated

proud trellis
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my whole pc is dodgey derrikk

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lolll

lofty light
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Oof, I'll have to send pics of my brother's but his would be way worse I'm sure 😛

proud trellis
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lol

lofty light
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He bought a mini PC Case and a water cooler, so crowded that the tubes are at a very dangerous angle

proud trellis
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woah

modern gull
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like bent tubes?

lofty light
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Like bent water cooling tubes

modern gull
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sounds risky

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I recently upgraded my pc/case while waiting for my new gpu, i would like to share photo but i am not worthy. Does any of you who are worthy volunteer to assist?

lofty light
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Dm me

modern gull
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thanks alot!

lofty light
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Done BlobFingers

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What did ya add?

modern gull
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new psu and new ram for now

lofty light
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Noice as!

modern gull
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was originaly getting 3080 but changed it to 3070

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that why 750 psu

proud trellis
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wont he get bubbles inside the AIO as the tubes arent at thew top ?

lofty light
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Yeah we don't have any 3080s here but a bunch of 3070s so I get that

proud trellis
lofty light
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As long as the radiator is above the CPU block that's what you want

modern gull
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ya dont have to wait too long and its only 10-20 % increace in perfformance at 1080p so this will probably last a few years

lofty light
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Otherwise you get the bubbles in the block

modern gull
lofty light
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Oh defs yeah will last

modern gull
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what do you guys mean with the bubbles?

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air gets trapped in there?

proud trellis
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yeah

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its better to have the tubes coming from the top because it stops trapped air i was told

modern gull
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hmm i didnt know

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but how bad is this?

lofty light
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It's more you want the rad above the block is all

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The bad thing is if you get air in the pump it'll be VERY loud and rattly and can burn out the pump

modern gull
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oooooouuuu

lofty light
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But it's very obvious so as long as you're aware it's easy to get around

modern gull
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pepe_sweat i will fix that asap

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thanks alot!

lofty light
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👍

modern gull
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hmm i think the reason why i put it this way was cause the tubes got bent to much for my taste.

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as you see on the photo the block inst even the correct way lol.

lofty light
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Yeah the rad is the right way up

modern gull
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so i just need to rotate the block you mean then?

lofty light
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You want the tubes at the bottom, but I think the block having the tubes on the side at least should be preferable

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Ye

modern gull
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ah i see i'll just rotate the block later then.

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btw what specs you guys got? Mine is
CPU: I7-8700k
RAM: 32gb "2x 16gb" 2666mhz ddr4
GPU: Soon to be 3070
Storage: 1x 1TB M.2 1x 2TB HDD 7200 rpm

proud trellis
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i have a prebuilt lol

modern gull
proud trellis
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its in
i5-9400f
1660super
and now my 16gb ram haHAA

weak girder
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its ok

modern gull
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nice not to bad

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decent pc

proud trellis
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its my first ever proper gaming pc

modern gull
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gz

weak girder
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but prebuilts often have thermal throttling

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and they overcharge

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always better tp build it yourself

modern gull
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btw you should make your own next, its alot of fun

proud trellis
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i did get an AIO for the cpu as it had a stock intel cooler

modern gull
proud trellis
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im defo making my own one

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next

modern gull
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doubt ice's is throttled

proud trellis
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well

modern gull
proud trellis
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my temps are around 60-70

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BUT

weak girder
# modern gull really?

yeah, one was even rated 4.3 stars on amazon and it had fake reviews and horrible thermal throttling

proud trellis
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i keep my side pannel off as when idle my temps can reach 40 degrees

modern gull
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doubt they throttle that

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btw ICE your gpu looks like a beast lol

proud trellis
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do u think

modern gull
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mhm

weak girder
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I'm still waiting for the 3050 ti

modern gull
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Seb this is more like custom made pre built pc if that makes sense

weak girder
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they can actually build it for you at a comp centre

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you just tell them what you want in it

modern gull
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meh i am waiting too for the 3070, i originaly ordered 3080 but i saw 3070 avalible. i got comfirmed date and all now they removed comfirmed date for some sad reason

proud trellis
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tbh i would do that if i ever felt that worried

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i wouldnt mind paying the labour

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costs

weak girder
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you dont pay for it actually

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for 470$ my friend got a 1650super r3 3100 16fb ram

proud trellis
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jeez

modern gull
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you should still build your own pc. look at it like building a car from nothing, but much easier if you into that. or feel like pc entusiast.

weak girder
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yeah cause my friend got 1x16gb ram because he knows nothing of pc's and I actually told him what to get with his budget

proud trellis
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1x16 is bad ?

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lower fps ?

modern gull
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maybe they bake price into components

modern gull
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i mean single chanell and not dual channel

weak girder
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I was kinda mad with the pc centre since they got tons of rgb fans and ram and got him 1x16gb ram

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*they put rgb ram and fans in his pc

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priorities are upside down

modern gull
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But everything with rgb or called gamer its best kekleo

weak girder
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I hate it when they put gamer is smth

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that a reason for my parents not to buy it

modern gull
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funny thing is i avoid buying stuff that is branded as gamer. its sus for me

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ah i see

proud trellis
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i mean in all fairness

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i wouldnt mind paying like an extra 50 pound on RGB things

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because it looks nice

modern gull
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its about prefrence

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i wouldnt

weak girder
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yeah but...

1x16...

modern gull
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lol

weak girder
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my 144hz monitor had gaming in it

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but it was an acer

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I trust acer

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and it has really nice colors

modern gull
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nice

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one thing i would never buy is gamer headphones

weak girder
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really

modern gull
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yep

weak girder
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every gaming headphone has gaming in it lol

modern gull
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all the ones i tried have really low quality

weak girder
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I have a razer kraken

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it has gaming in it

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I like it

modern gull
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i dont buy gaming head phones too low quality in my experience

weak girder
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at least I know razer doesnt make low quality stuff

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but it can be overpriced

modern gull
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i am pretty sure razer is one of them i tried. But if you are happy thats the most important thing isnt it?

proud trellis
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i like razer

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i have most of my peripherals as razer

weak girder
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me too

modern gull
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got steel series mouse/kb

proud trellis
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might change my mouse next year tho

weak girder
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their shop is really accessible where I live

proud trellis
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i want to get the G502 next christmas

modern gull
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didnt like the fact you had to make account to adjust your stuff

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its a damn joke lol

proud trellis
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its not that bad

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i like it

weak girder
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Im happy they havesoftware to adjust stuff

proud trellis
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ikr

weak girder
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synapse is the bomb

proud trellis
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synapse is amazing

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and cortex

weak girder
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its really easy to configure stuff

modern gull
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steel series does too, you dont need to make account. why would you force people to make account lol

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damn tracking stuff

weak girder
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the account is harmless

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gmail asks for your google account lol

proud trellis
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it took me about 10 seconds to make an account

weak girder
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yeah

modern gull
weak girder
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G502 is goos

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good

proud trellis
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there is one that isnt wireless

modern gull
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ah

proud trellis
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i dont like wireless products

modern gull
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same

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they sus for gaming

proud trellis
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the charging bit would piss me off

modern gull
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oh ya damn

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might as well get wired lol

proud trellis
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ur there running round on BF and then it stops because it needs charging

modern gull
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rip 😭

proud trellis
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i would be throwing it off the wall more then i use it for gaming

weak girder
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all my stuff is wired as well

modern gull
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i dont thing most gamers use wireless stuff, i mean at what point dont they sitt and game infront of their desk?

weak girder
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but razers rgb looks really good whereas some other companies lookd really chea0

modern gull
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this would be only wireless thing i'd buy for a pc

proud trellis
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the one place i dont like for peripherals is corsair

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i only get tech and their mouse mats from corsair

weak girder
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wireless are for cable management purists

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and laptop users tbh

modern gull
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did you guys see that keyboard?

weak girder
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one of my friends has a laptop with a really stylish setup

no wires in sight and very thin bezels

proud trellis
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which one klik ?

modern gull
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the link i sent

proud trellis
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ohh

weak girder
proud trellis
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woah

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it looks ... weird

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there u go klik

modern gull
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but i mean the only point i would use wireless is if i example hooked pc up to tv or something and was in the couch. this would be perfect

modern gull
weak girder
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they put some wierd shit where the num pads supposed to go

modern gull
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track pad

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mouse/kb in one

weak girder
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a wireless mouse is always good to have as well for traveling

modern gull
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ya its convinient i guess

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but i dont mind getting up and changing movie/episode on my pc so dont really need this kb

weak girder
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@modern gull get a 144hz monitor when you get that 3070

modern gull
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never

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lol

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i would be addicted to 144 fps no joke

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you know how smooth and sexy 144 hz is

weak girder
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most noticeably game is mc

modern gull
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man just tried it on my friends pc on desktop lol

weak girder
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battlefield I can still play in 60fps

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but I cant go back to 60hz with minecraft

modern gull
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oh damn

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got new monitor the other day 75 hz

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much nicer than 60 fps lol

weak girder
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yeah

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it is

modern gull
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this is my limit or i might need to use ALOT of money on gpu

weak girder
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144 is just smooch

modern gull
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but i need to goo now sorry 😭 nice chatting. maybe we can countinue later?

modern gull
weak girder
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👌

modern gull
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see you later man merry christmas

weak girder
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merry christmas to you

proud trellis
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my BFV runs just as shit

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now i have 16gb of ram

fallen harbor
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did you try removing the drive youve been using and trying one of the others?

proud trellis
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well i did order a SSD

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but my mum said she never had one arrive

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so idk

fallen harbor
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you already have three drives

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the three cant be faulty

proud trellis
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yeah ik

fallen harbor
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only the one you have the game or windows in could be faulty

proud trellis
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i did move the game tho

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onto the other HHD

fallen harbor
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id try completely removing the one you have windows in and install windows in one ofthe others and see how that goes

proud trellis
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but then it will be on a hardrive my windows

fallen harbor
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yes but if the problem persists then it would prove that the problem isnt in the drives

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itd be a test

proud trellis
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i cba with this pc anymore

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i just want to send it back for refund but the little shits wont let me

fallen harbor
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they cant not let you

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you need to be pushy

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its in your right

proud trellis
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ik

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im gonna wait till january and then im gonna send a email

modern gull
fallen harbor
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it stutters a lot

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to an unplayable level

modern gull
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hmm

fallen harbor
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as if he was running it on a shitty pc from 2010

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despite having a well capable i5 9400f and 1660s

modern gull
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i had some issue myself like this but i changed settings in menu

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like alot of stutter

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hmm but i dont remmeber the setting i changed

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maybe it could be future frame rendering or vsync/limiter. like i said tho i dont remmeber what caused the stuttering for me.

fallen harbor
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those two cant cause that much

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he literally cant play it

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i dont think its a settings problem for him

modern gull
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future frame rendering can cause stuttering, i do think that might have been the setting i adjusted to fix

fallen harbor
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future frame rendering adds input lag, not unplayable visual stuttering

modern gull
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i wanted less input lag i turn that of, then visual stuttering

fallen harbor
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what

modern gull
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i7-8700k 1070

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i am 100% sure that was the setting i adjusted

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and it was unplayable yes with it off

fallen harbor
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id say the setting you adjusted was scale resolution which was probably highly above 100%

modern gull
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but it was not

proud trellis
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i do have a video of what it used to look like

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but its worse now

modern gull
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try and enable future frame rendering

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in graphics settings

fallen harbor
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smh

proud trellis
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i have FFR enabled

modern gull
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tf is this lag lol

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tought it was small stuttering this is like more than stuttering lol

fallen harbor
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as ive been saying since months ago it must be a drive issue

modern gull
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could be in this case

fallen harbor
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he showed how it reaches 100% of usage when it shouldnt at all

modern gull
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100% usage on what?

fallen harbor
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on other applications or maybe because it came faulty

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he did have a lot of running applications in the background though

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weird apps

modern gull
fallen harbor
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but yeah everyone in this server told him its because he needed dual channel despite what ive been saying and they made him lose money

fallen harbor
modern gull
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this is not ram issue it seems

opaque saddle
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looks like bottlenecking

modern gull
opaque saddle
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something tuned too high

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and something cant catch up with it

fallen harbor
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see how they still ignore what i say lmao

modern gull
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he could set graphics to low and test if it helps

opaque saddle
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then show the usage on screen

fallen harbor
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i got into his pc and his drive hit 100% usage while playing and that always causes this type of stutter

modern gull
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but if his hdd 100% usage thats highly likley the issue

fallen harbor
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he also has sent screenshots of it

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his drive either came faulty or he fucked somethig up

modern gull
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he got hdd from the 70's or something lol?

opaque saddle
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what he needs, is to show us the gameplay and the stats at the same time

fallen harbor
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he showed that to me months ago

modern gull
proud trellis
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i did reinstall windows the first time it happened

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nothing changed

modern gull
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its at 100% usage that is the first thing to eliminate in the first place anyways. he got decent cpu/gpu now new ram

proud trellis
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i did want to get ram anyway tho

opaque saddle
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actually if he tuned the graphics to too high then something will cap at 100%, can be the hdd is too slow for the in game settings

proud trellis
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because i had to close pretty much everything and even leave DC calls because i had 8gb

opaque saddle
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it happened to me when i play Forza Horizon 4

modern gull
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maybe he could try low settings

opaque saddle
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unless your ram usage is over 8gb

modern gull
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he has 16gb

opaque saddle
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and your hdd is acting as the cache

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check your settings

modern gull
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@proud trellis check if your HDD usage is still 100% while playing now

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As ando said you had 100% HDD usage, and this is then the most likley cause i'd say.

proud trellis
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thing is tho

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GTA

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RL

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work fine

modern gull
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hmm strange. i am sure you should notice hdd issues there pretty easy. best thing you could do is figure usage of all components i suppose.

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you have all 16 gb ram avalible right?

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if it hits max ram it needs to use HDD as ram and then that stuff in the video probably would happend

proud trellis
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i have 16gb in the computer

modern gull
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But does it show 16gb in windows?

proud trellis
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yes

modern gull
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hmm

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you know what. if you got the time and mic come voice chat.

proud trellis
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i will in like 10 mins if u can ?

modern gull
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sure just tell me when you avalible

proud trellis
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ok

modern gull
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i'll be in general 1

proud trellis
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i will join in a min

modern gull
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@proud trellis from what i saw its your cpu. stop unwanted programs etc.. try and reduce cpu usage as much as possible

latent light
#

My new mini-ITX case

weak girder
#

nice

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I love the fans

latent light
#

Honestly gotta figure out where I can put some 50-60mm fans

coarse nimbus
#

How many DBs do you want this case to be?
Yes
FeelsMeowMan

surreal arch
#

Can’t post pics but just got a series X

near flame
#

I need some external space for rdr2 any suggestions on hood external hard drives for Xbox?

covert gull
#

Is there any support guy here? Im facing infinite loading screen before " Fraternité Ou La Mort " in HARDCORE mode .

proud trellis
#

can run ultra settings too 😋

covert gull
#

that's crazy

near flame
#

@surreal arch is 500g better? I don’t need more than 1TB

surreal arch
near flame
surreal arch
near flame
#

Ok thanks

surreal arch
#

Yep

stoic delta
#

Why does my mic pick up all the pc sounds and my friends can hear Its really annoying

surreal arch
#

Turn down your mic @stoic delta

stoic delta
#

The problem is even at 10% they can hear themselfs and everything i do

surreal arch
#

Yep

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Um

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Idk

proud trellis
#

anything that can cause a CPU to go to 100%

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when playing games

molten coral
#

@stoic delta Download Nvidia broadcast

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It has a option to remove all background noise etc

weak girder
#

and try to detect any malfare if you didnt do it already

weak girder
#

and dont forget to uograde your psu and motherboard

digital condor
#

How big is battlefield 1 on steam?

iron fable
#

81gb

weak girder
#

60

digital condor
#

With all DLC

#

so 81gb?

weak girder
#

probably

floral cedar
#

what is bottlenecking

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I have a 9th gen i5 and an rtx 2060 in my laptop. The laptop gets quite hot while playing games as all laptops do but the cpu on average is a little bit warmer than the gpu. Should I be worried about bottlenecking?

stuck elbow
#

what graphic settings to disable for best gameplay(not performance),i already have performance

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but gameplay,like spotting enemies easier

floral cedar
#

there’s settings for that?

weak girder
#

you are confusing bottlenecking and overheating

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a bottleneck is when a cpu is limited by the gpu or the gpu is limited by the cpu

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because one component is a lot weaker than the other

opaque saddle
#

can be apply to storage and ram as well

weak girder
#

a rtx 2060 and 9th gen i5 wont bottleneck

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actually, maybe a laptop cpu can bottleneck

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since theyre a lot weaker tham their dekstop counterparts

opaque saddle
#

in this case, unless it overheated and the system limited the components speed to reduce the heat generated

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then it can cause bottlenecking

weak girder
#

yeah, he should buy a laptop cooler

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and increase his fans

opaque saddle
#

it works for a bit

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not quite

#

for my laptop, i tends to shut down Turbo Boost to reduce the heat generated from cpu

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so it increases 3-5 hours of battery life in general tasks

weak girder
#

I dont know much about gaming laptops

arent they a bit heavy?

opaque saddle
#

can be, they can be slim

weak girder
#

my friend has a razer blade 15 and it sucks when its not charging apparently

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and its an rtx 2060 i7 10th gen laptop

opaque saddle
#

if the gaming laptop is slightly thicker than macbook pro, i will be curious what is under the hood

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if it uses more than the power supply can provided (for example, like USB-C brick + cable can do 100w, but the laptop uses 110w,)

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then the battery wont be charging

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instead, the computer will use 110w from both battery and the USB-C power supply)

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gaming laptop is meant for portability but to compensate the performance, which comes with a more expensive price tag

cunning zephyr
#

Yo I got a cool bt speaker for Christmas

opaque saddle
#

Congrats

cunning zephyr
#

It lights up and has good sound quality

weak girder
#

good for you

#

My speakers have good sound quality too, so I like using them instead of wearing headphones

cunning zephyr
#

I use it on my phone since its not a computer one, and sadly I don't have a computer

modern gull
# proud trellis anything that can cause a CPU to go to 100%

did you try switching between fullscreen, windowed or borderless? might not make sense but might work who knows. Try future frame rendering on/off and enable DX12 see if that could help. Anyways the best thing you could do is find the settings that cause the least stuttering, many people with really good pc's have this same issue.

modern gull
weak girder
#

uhhhhhhhhh, a 450 watt psu is not related to cpu usage but its too weak for his system

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he has a 1660super and i5 9400f

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so his psu is barely enough

modern gull
#

But the 1660 super has 450 as reccomended psu tho?

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I am pretty sure this watt recomendation is including cpu

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and i5 9400f max power draw is 65 watts.

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should be more than enough i'd say, he dont really have any sypthoms of to weak psu also.

weak girder
#

no

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but it's always good to get a psu that has more power than your system needs if you ever want to upgrade

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and he should upgrade his gpu if he has the money because of his 1440p monitor

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and like @vapid vale said, his cpu is a bit strong for his gpu

proud trellis
#

I think discord is a bit of the issue

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because it’s taking up about 5-10% when I’m playing COD with friends

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I’m gonna scan for malware too when I get on

modern gull
weak girder
#

no, I just recommended him to upgrade his psu if that wasnt clear

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it has nothing to do with cpu usage

modern gull
#

i am not talking about cpu usage myself

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i am talking about psu

proud trellis
#

if the psu isn’t ever enough and the system starts shutting off then I can contact the company for them to either get a higher watt psu in the system or they give me another 450 non falty psu

modern gull
weak girder
#

yeah

proud trellis
#

my pc has never shut off

modern gull
#

exactly

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your psu should be within specs

weak girder
#

but if your cpu usage still is always at 100% just do a clean reinstall of windows

modern gull
#

that could work. but i think its issue with the game tho to be honest

weak girder
#

not me

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my i3 8100, stays around 90%

modern gull
#

i didnt have any issues myself. and there was ppl with my same cpu that had this exact issue

weak girder
#

and his cpu is well above the recommended

modern gull
#

ya he shouldnt realy have this issue

weak girder
#

could be malware eating up his cpu

proud trellis
#

I’m gonna search for malware

modern gull
#

who knows maybe

weak girder
#

but then it would also eat up his ram

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I think

modern gull
#

hmm perhaps

proud trellis
#

Reinstalling windows is the last thing I’m doing

weak girder
#

yeah

modern gull
#

malaware these days probably bit coin miners anyways

weak girder
#

I understand

weak girder
#

really

modern gull
#

ya that a hassle but try as much stuff you can.

modern gull
# weak girder really

virus and stuff. and only probably not stating facts, know little about what viruses does, but that would be beneficial to those who made the virues

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so probably that idk

weak girder
#

oh wait @proud trellis try testing each of your componants in benchmarks

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especially your cpu

modern gull
#

mhm

#

but ice isnt it only bf5 that is the issue?

weak girder
#

no he said bf1 too

modern gull
#

oh i see

#

hmm

weak girder
#

but then except cod he doesnt have really demanding games

modern gull
#

could it be he dont have hyper threading, that causes it?

weak girder
#

no

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like I said, his cpu is more than enough

modern gull
#

i didnt have hyper threading at one point in bf1 it was high but not constant 100%

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ya so i'd assume myself

proud trellis
modern gull
#

thats good atleast

weak girder
#

ok so that not just a bf issue

modern gull
#

apparently not

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but ice did you try the different fullscreen modes?

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i know it makes no sense, but you never know before you tried 😛

proud trellis
#

when I used task manager I was in windowed and it was still high usage

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I’m gonna try a virus/malware scan

modern gull
#

ok

weak girder
#

but where could the virus come from if you didnt download anything?

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does someone use your pc?

modern gull
#

@weak girder @proud trellis Are you guys avalible for vc? maybe we could go there.

weak girder
#

I am

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one sec

modern gull
#

i am in general 2 atleast

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ok

stone ermine
#

Is it normal for my battlefield V games to close after 10sec?

weak girder
#

uhm no

stone ermine
#

I could play before but not anymore

#

It's been 2 days since he's like her

modern gull
modern gull
stone ermine
#

no

modern gull
stone ermine
#

Thursday I was playing

modern gull
#

hmm strange. i dont know what it could be tho 😦

stone ermine
#

but when I close the window the game starts and when I click on it it closes

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Sorry if i write badly i am french

modern gull
#

Really strange. Its fine your english is good.

stone ermine
#

horse of three?

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virus

#

but I don't think I saw that I did an analysis

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@modern gull ?

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Did you see me streaming to show you?

modern gull
#

Probably not virus i'd say. I dont really what could cause this issue tho sorry 😦 maybe someone else would know.

stone ermine
#

we are in the technology lounge

#

@modern gull ?

modern gull
#

can you hear us?

stone ermine
#

maybe it is the origin server?

weak girder
#

can you hear us?

stone ermine
#

yes

#

I don't understand when you speak I just understand written English

modern gull
#

lol. Do you get any messages when the game closes?

stone ermine
#

no

modern gull
#

hmmm

weak girder
#

one sec, my friend had a fix for this let me just speak to him

stone ermine
#

loading freezes and games close

weak girder
#

it used to work for you before?

stone ermine
#

okay

weak girder
#

right

stone ermine
#

yes

#

yesterday morning

#

sorry I will be back in 2min

weak girder
#

try to hit alt enter when the game loads

#

maybe its a fullscreen issue

stone ermine
#

can we talk about depriving it so that I can stream?

weak girder
#

I dont understand

stone ermine
#

discord stream

modern gull
#

@stone ermine Try to start after the game after is fully downloaded.

stone ermine
#

When we reduce the window its walking and after its crash

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why yesterday morning i could play

modern gull
#

It might work after the game is fully downloaded

weak girder
#

Im coming back in 1 sec

modern gull
#

no worries take your time man

#

better if you help him since you speak french anyways 😛

stone ermine
#

okay

latent light
chrome skiff
#

The Asus bios update just came out for x470. Full fledge 5000 series cpu support pcie gen 4 and bar/sam

#

Update 4007

strong breach
#

Cant cable manage the cables going to the rtx

#

Literally cant hide them

coarse nimbus
#

How much cooler do you want? "Yes"

strong breach
#

Lul

#

Look at that clearance on the gpu and cpu cooler though

#

Couldnt fit it to the PCI-E below because of the junk HDD

#

so that was the only option

#

Removing the RTX 3080 from the PCI-E slot will be hard if i ever need to do that

fallen harbor
zenith turret
#

on bfv is it better to use dx11 or 12?

#

with 12 I get 272.1fps on average which is solid, but my 0.1% lows are 41.7 and 1% lows at 99.3

storm osprey
#

One is smoother one gets more FPS, generally speaking. 12 getting more FPS

zenith turret
weak girder
#

you should go with dx 11 cause its a lot more stable

#

your framerate will be much more consistent than dx12

#

depending on your system, dx12 can give you more fps but also a lot more suttering

modern gull
#

Ya most of the time dx11 should give you more fps. Only time i have seen benefit from dx12 is in certain games when there ALOT of objects/stuff on the screen. From what i have understood dx12 is supposed to provide better performance, but maybe this is true in certain scenarios.

weak girder
#

bf has a lot of troubles with dx12

#

it really depends on the games

#

but I think vulkan should have been better for battlefield V :/

modern gull
#

I suppose, but dx11 had better performance for me compared to dx12 in most games.
Dont really know much about vulkan to be honest. Wasnt this made to give mobiles better performance in games?

weak girder
#

no not for mobile...

it reduces a lot the need for ram usage and its really good for rendering lighting

and thats why rdr2 uses vulkan

#

it also limits a lot the amount of errors

#

it increases gpu usage and reduces cpu usage

modern gull
#

WoahThink i see

#

That is great for people who have maxed out cpu usage tho or weak cpu

weak girder
#

yeah

#

they should make it an option

#

but not a lot of game have vulkan except rdr2 which is litteraly perfect for that api

modern gull
#

I am pretty sure rainbow six siege uses vulkan i am not 100% sure tho.

storm osprey
#

idk any system that doesnt get more fps with dx 12 on bfv, but everyone also says its stuttery

twilit silo
#

ight boys

hollow fulcrum
#

oi

#

hahaha

#

ight boys lets finish this

#

lol

twilit silo
#

intel vs ryzen

prime jasper
#

14nm is reaching its limit

hollow fulcrum
#

yea in my opinion ryzen is way to go

#

bun if you are rich then just bought intel lol

#

but*

twilit silo
#

what about like video editing

hollow fulcrum
#

man video editing?ryzen man

prime jasper
#

amd cpu+nvidia card

twilit silo
#

i dont wanna waste my cash

#

but if it means better performance

#

ill spend

prime jasper
#

dont ever listen to quicksync bs

twilit silo
#

OH what about the ryzen 9?

hollow fulcrum
#

man just buy 5600x you will be happy

prime jasper
#

nah its not worth it right now

hollow fulcrum
prime jasper
#

actually 5900x is only suitable for rendering

twilit silo
#

like i wanna do both

prime jasper
#

its pretty much 5%+ performance in gaming

#

5800x is kinda the jack of all trades

hollow fulcrum
#

yea

twilit silo
#

like when does the cpu become a bottle neck

hollow fulcrum
#

actually the cost is depends on your country

prime jasper
#

rarely, since the new ryzen cpu's ipc is so high

#

it only bottleneck if there is more thresehold in single core, happening in badly optimized app

twilit silo
#

ight so

#

so far

#

either ryzen 5 or i5

#

and a 2060s for gpu

prime jasper
#

just wait for rtx 3060, it worth the shot

hollow fulcrum
#

if you have more budget i rec you to 3060 much worth it

prime jasper
#

2060 is kinda old at this point, and it still 400 dollars

hollow fulcrum
#

yea

twilit silo
#

so 3060

#

wait for the restock

hollow fulcrum
#

with a 16 gb or 32 gb of ram

prime jasper
#

my 2070s is being a dead horse right now

#

its that bad

hollow fulcrum
#

talk to my rx580 hahah

twilit silo
#

okay

#

so lets talk motherboards

hollow fulcrum
#

mobo is too much

twilit silo
#

OH

#

WAIT
i also want to do vr

#

does cpu count or gpu

hollow fulcrum
#

depends on the price tag and feutures

prime jasper
#

gpu mostly

twilit silo
#

oh

prime jasper
#

you want to get to that sweet 4k 90hz

hollow fulcrum
#

what is the best mobo rn?

prime jasper
#

b550 ax

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for 5600x of course

hollow fulcrum
#

yea b550

twilit silo
#

ok i should write prices down

hollow fulcrum
#

what macnufacturer is the best one?

twilit silo
#

give me a sec

prime jasper
#

asrock and msi

hollow fulcrum
#

heard rec from yt that msi is good one

prime jasper
#

asus boards are good but they have the worst warranty policy

twilit silo
#

ok so i wanna game, vr, and edit

#

what cpu

#

do BOTH of you agree on

hollow fulcrum
#

hermm what do you think homing?

twilit silo
#

this can be like my doundation

#

foundation

prime jasper
#

5600x+b550 ax

twilit silo
#

okay

#

so syzen 5 5600x

#

so it has more pros than cons

prime jasper
#

10700 could be an option if it doesn't require a fricking z490

twilit silo
#

a what

hollow fulcrum
#

nono 5600x is ryzen 7 right?

twilit silo
#

oh fr

#

ight

hollow fulcrum
#

eh

#

im woring

#

wrong

twilit silo
#

lemme look it up

hollow fulcrum
#

ye ye is does rysen 5 5600x

#

just search it

storm osprey
#

dont buy by brands

twilit silo
#

y

storm osprey
#

i will go against that train of thought and say that ive noticed more bad asrock boards than good

#

you buy by model and price at the time

hollow fulcrum
#

yea I rec msi actually

prime jasper
#

yea asrock have problem with their vrm

#

but they fixed it half way through 2019

storm osprey
#

theres few brands that i would generally say to buy

twilit silo
#

so what mother board should we agree on

prime jasper
#

b550 tomahawk pro

hollow fulcrum
#

that the beast

prime jasper
#

no just tomahawk

storm osprey
#

also, 10700k is only 20 bucks more than a 5600x

prime jasper
#

yes but it require a fking fan, and a decent z490 board

twilit silo
#

20 bucks

#

hmmm

prime jasper
#

and also it ran ways hotter

twilit silo
#

unless i can splurge water cooling

storm osprey
#

5800x requires a fan too

twilit silo
#

get like those basic kits

storm osprey
#

a decent z490 board is the same price as a decent b550 mb

prime jasper
#

5600x

storm osprey
#

well dude did say he was rendering

#

which afaik more cores the better

twilit silo
#

but will it affect gaming?

prime jasper
#

you can use a bios updated b450 for 5600x

storm osprey
#

you dont need a water cooler, there are 80 dollar AIO coolers that work just fine (im using a 10700k)

twilit silo
#

ok

#

so lemme make a amd and intel list

storm osprey
#

5600x is generally better for gaming

prime jasper
#

b450 tomahawk max is about 160 aud

storm osprey
#

especially for esport titles like csgo/valorant, but just a little ahead in other titles (at 1080p)

twilit silo
#

im not gonna be editing 24/7 its only for school

prime jasper
#

which is a killer deal since how much it performs

storm osprey
#

oh in that case yea try for 5600x

twilit silo
#

so no intel

prime jasper
#

so i think b450 tomahawk max and 5600x maybe

hollow fulcrum
#

aight you guys help him gonna play bf1

twilit silo
#

ight see then have fun

storm osprey
#

well depending on budget a 10400 is probably a good place to start

twilit silo
#

1500k

#

oh the i5

storm osprey
#

uhh.. just answer these i guess

#

!!build

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twilit silo
#

uh

hollow fulcrum
prime jasper
#

oh yea forgot about the 10400f

twilit silo
#

me?

hollow fulcrum
#

yea

storm osprey
#

10400/f is normally around 160 now

twilit silo
#

no your fine

#

idc

storm osprey
#

but 1500k budget is reaally healthy

twilit silo
#

bet

prime jasper
#

but do note that you can pull a 5800x+3070 with that amount

storm osprey
#

5800x not worth

twilit silo
#

oh yeah lemme look that 3070

storm osprey
#

5800x comparable to 10700k but 130 bucks more

#

only real benefit to 5800x is less power consumption

prime jasper
#

but 10700k have lower ipc

storm osprey
#

which.. wow you save 10 bucks a year

twilit silo
#

ok so

#

what cpu am i using

storm osprey
#

5800x is like 5% faster than 10700k at 1080p... thats not worth an extra 130 bucks

twilit silo
#

i gotta write somethingdown

prime jasper
#

i still think that 5800x worth it

#

for the long run

twilit silo
#

ok so i bump up to a ryzen 5 5800x

prime jasper
#

since my 8600 is showing its age right now

storm osprey
#

if the only use for more cores is rendering for school i wouldnt spend an extra 150 on top of a 5600x

#

or an extra 130 on top of a 10700k

twilit silo
#

so? i go 5600x

#

yes?

storm osprey
#

gaming performance difference between 5600x and 5800x is going to be extremely marginal

prime jasper
#

welp i just ordered 5800x

twilit silo
#

so 5800

storm osprey
#

the only pro to 5800x is that it has 2 more cores which helps to render faster

#

generally speaking since idk what youre rendering

twilit silo
#

okay so ima stick to a 5800x

#

videos

storm osprey
#

i dont think its worth another 150 bucks but you do have a healthy budget

twilit silo
#

so 5600 or 800?

#

im so lost

prime jasper
#

yea the thing is amd have margin their high end processors perf really bad

twilit silo
#

with what board too

prime jasper
#

what country you are living at

twilit silo
#

us of a

storm osprey
#

i have it timestamped

prime jasper
#

welp 5600x gonna save some bucks

#

this board

storm osprey
#

basically, 5600x covers needs and is cheaper

prime jasper
#

its only 120 usd, work flawlessly with 5600x

#

bios updated out of the box

storm osprey
#

5800x will save some time when you decide to render, but if its only for school i wouldnt bother

twilit silo
#

yeah

#

so ima go 5600x

storm osprey
#

theres some "future proofing" in getting a 5800x, but amd supports their boards for a few gens so theres that

twilit silo
#

pair it with the tomahawk

#

if anything i can always upgrade a cpu

prime jasper
#

remember that the board should be b450 tomahawk max, not the overpriced b550 tomahawk

storm osprey
#

plus 5600x comes with cooler, youd probably drop another 50 bucks into a cpu cooler with a 5800x

#

so 5600x vs 5800x is really a 200 dollar price difference

prime jasper
#

b550 tomahawk is 200 usd rn, not worth it

twilit silo
#

whats the diffrence

storm osprey
#

do you need extra pcie slots?

prime jasper
#

they have the same vrm performance, but b550 is ways more expensive

#

with kinda cherry on the top

twilit silo
#

not really i dont see me using more than one gpu

storm osprey
#

well you can go micro atx and save money there too

twilit silo
#

does it have any cons

prime jasper
#

you can pretty much fit it any where

twilit silo
#

oh my

#

the case

storm osprey
#

mico boards only real cons are less pcie slots

twilit silo
#

i forgot

#

any like case that is good

#

ima stick to the msi b450

#

and go micro if it goes above the 1500 mark

storm osprey
#

so regular atx unless it goes above 1500?

#

thats easy...

twilit silo
#

wym

prime jasper
#

welp lemme use the pcpart rea quick

twilit silo
#

what about ram

#

32 enough

storm osprey
#

16 is enough unless youre rendering programs really need more

twilit silo
#

any specific type of ram

storm osprey
#

wait.. when do you plan on building?

twilit silo
#

about 2 months

#

ima save my pay checks

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since i get payed 900 every 2 weeks

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so in 2 moths i can have more than enough

storm osprey
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well, tbh making a list now is really just a ballpark guide

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prices change so often and theres sales too

twilit silo
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yeah

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ima just buy stuff slowly

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how much is a 370

prime jasper
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student>

twilit silo
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3070

storm osprey
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400 msrp

twilit silo
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ok round up to 450

prime jasper
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3070 is 500 msrp tho

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3060 is 400

twilit silo
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hmm

storm osprey
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yea i lied

twilit silo
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oh ye

storm osprey
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3070 is 500, 3060 ti is 400

twilit silo
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so 550

storm osprey
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what resolution and hz you gaming at?

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unless youre doing 1080p240hz or 1440p 144hz i would get a 3060 ti

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granted, in 2 months i can almost guarantee the gpu market will have changed

twilit silo
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ima stick to my old monitor and then get a new one

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like a good one

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so ima stick to the 3070

storm osprey
prime jasper
west radish
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Help my phone isnt producing any sound unless i wear airpods

prime jasper
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well thats the best of every parts

west radish
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The volume is full

twilit silo
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so i meet the budget

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i dont even need an ssd since my current pc has some samsung one

storm osprey
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told you it would be easy

twilit silo
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yea

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pretty easy ngl

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can i change the case

storm osprey
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its your build

twilit silo
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like does the case matter?

storm osprey
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you can ignore everything that went on here and do what you want

prime jasper
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cases with best airflow

twilit silo
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pretty good base line

storm osprey
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main point is physical clearances and thermals

prime jasper
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and no annoying sharp edges

storm osprey
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meh, most people are in their pcs once a year at best

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even budget options avoid that problem too

twilit silo
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ye i saw

storm osprey
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lian li 215 is just a killer stock budget case

prime jasper
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welp i just dont care about airflow that much

twilit silo
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so with the budget of 1300

prime jasper
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i just go straight for nzxt case since they look clean

twilit silo
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i can maybe get water cooling?

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i saw the case homing

prime jasper
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water cooling is kinda useless

twilit silo
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its quiet

prime jasper
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for cheap budget you can only get aio

storm osprey
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5600x will be quiet with a 50 dollar cpu cooler

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also

twilit silo
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so the case you put is good for temp

prime jasper
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ehh didnt know h510 is that bad in airflow

storm osprey
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h510 has a solid front

prime jasper
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but it looks clean, i would trade it off for 2-3 celcius

storm osprey
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thats like 10 celcius on cpu though

twilit silo
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oh fr

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