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#technology
quick axle
yes
quick axle
ok
shell willow
i have school sorry
shell willow
ya
modern iron
Русские есть?
quick axle
what?
modern iron
English?
quick axle
yes pls speak english
modern iron
Ok
modern gull
So probably not enabled DXR features then
weak girder
yeah
modern gull
ah
modern gull
i see
btw since we talking about dxr imagine we now have real time ray tracing. pretty neat i'd say
modern gull
oh why not 3060, and what you got now?
weak girder
1050 ti
weak girder
oh why not 3060, and what you got now?
3060 is a better choice maybe
but I'm on a budget
golden torrent
KISS'
latent light
@weak girder 3050 expected to be faster than the 1660 Super/Ti for $150-180
Also features RT hardware
Should come out in Jan or Feb
weak girder
it looks really bad
coarse nimbus
Why would it need to be a 12 though
coarse nimbus
You're still feeding it will 2-8 pins so it would just add another layer of clutter
latent light
3090 Liquid cooled peaks at ~530 watts from boost
Extreme/LN2 overclocking would probably require a model that has 3x8-pins although I think a 12-pin could work
By next gen they will have a card that uses 2x12-pin lol
coarse nimbus
And be twice as overkill 
latent light
Nah I think next gen there's gonna be halo product monster GPUs with chiplet designs and 2-3x the amount of cores and close to 500W TDP
Tech companies have been pushing for higher power draw recently
Apple: We are removing the charger from the iPhone 12 for environmental reasons since our consumers more than likely already own a charger
Intel, Nvidia, AMD: Lol our products draw over 30% more power than they did last year
glossy plinth
https://videocardz.com/newz/this-geforce-rtx-3070-is-a-true-miracle
imagine if someone actually bought this 
latent light
AMD to have PCIE 5.0 on AM5 socket in 2022
modern gull
AMD to have PCIE 5.0 on AM5 socket in 2022
Didnt we just get PCIE 4.0?
modern gull
ah
modern gull
think it was the new drivers that was the issue for nvidia cards
or?
*460.79 driver
coarse nimbus
Bruh moment... I'll have to look into that later
empty arch
Who can help me out. I got the new rtx 3070 today and I wanted to test out dlss on bfv. But its grayed out. I have DX12 and DXR enabled. Playing on a 2560x1440P @ 144hz. Fullscreen or windows, both no dice
latent light
Hear me out: Take a RISC-V, emulate ARM instruction set, emulate x86 instruction set to Linux where you then use Wine to emulate Windows
empty arch
Ugh I already had 2 years of machine language at uni. Now you want me to emulate ARM on RISC-V. Fine!! Can I edit the instruction set atleast?
coarse nimbus
@empty arch from an old reddit thread `Did you figure this out? I have both turned on and it's still grayed out.
[EDIT] Holy shit, I figured it out right after I posted this. You need to have full screen enabled and then DLSS won't be grayed out. I also have DX12 and DXR enabled.`
empty arch
I edited the config file manually. It doesn't seem to crash at boot but haven't played yet. EA server shit there pants again
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/711621365337161738/788149390635171870/unknown.png THis is how it looks now
modern gull
May it be you was just using 1 ram stick? Basicaly not dual chanell
storm osprey
i had 2 sticks, everything worked properly from what i saw, something was just funky
modern gull
hmmm
Found out ram single/dual chanell actually affects gpu more than i expected.
Didnt really belive it lol. Did some research on it. So it could maybe have been this also from my current knowledge.
Just very strange i must say.
modern gull
i had 2 sticks, everything worked properly from what i saw, something was just f...
How about PSU, did you upgrade that? I find this issue really interesting hehe.
storm osprey
nopes, same psu 850w evga g2
modern gull
Ah i see then
storm osprey
yea, i never found it out, i put a lot of time into trying to figure it out too, im not smart, but i know i know more than a vast majority of people
modern gull
Ah i see. Would be really interesting to find out i must say. I mean you had like half the fps at same usage
modern gull
What specs you guys got? If you have already ordered new gpu, just list that as gpu etc..
Mine is
CPU: I7-8700k "base clock for now"
GPU: RTX 3080
RAM: 32 GB 2666hz
Hard drive: 1x 2tb hdd 1x 1tb m.2 nvme
latent light
Single/dual channel RAM performance margin is large these days because GPUs keep getting faster and dependent on bandwidth
Game optimization has some to do with it
modern gull
Single/dual channel RAM performance margin is large these days because GPUs keep...
Never would have tought actually. But it seems in some games dual chanell really matters for gpu usage
latent light
Yeah dual channel is twice the memory bandwidth which means in-game assets load and offload faster
Also reduces latency between CPU and RAM
modern gull
Yeah dual channel is twice the memory bandwidth which means in-game assets load ...
Ya. Technicaly twice the speed tho
modern gull
Also reduces latency between CPU and RAM
yep sure does
which in turn also improves comunication between CPU and GPU
Actually didnt think of ram as a slight bottleneck on the gpu to be honest
molten bramble
Brain, heart, lungs... everything has to work together to perform.
modern gull
mhm lol
atleast i have learned something new. Actually in some games with unlocked framerate the gpu wouldnt go high usage on single chanell, i didnt get why cause my cpu should be decent enough actually. but now i know
@strong breach Thanks for telling me. This was really usefull knowledge. Couldn't belive it was true, but i did some research on the topic.
shell willow
I have a chestion,hwo is better xbox one x or xbox one x project scorpion?
plz help me
modern gull
Better in what way?
molten bramble
I am not sure what you just said.
modern gull
he wants to know which is better between xbox one x or xbox one x project scorpion
molten bramble
Oh! "chestion" = "question"?
modern gull
Oh! "chestion" = "question"?
ya lol
modern gull
I think is project scprpion
hmm i dont know much about console. but let me check out specs for you.
shell willow
thx
shell willow
Oh! "chestion" = "question"?
my bad engleshhh sorry
molten bramble
Scorpio is supposed to just be a novelty/LE as far as I am aware
modern gull
cpu seems same
molten bramble
Sort of like my CoD:MW Xbox 360
shell willow
:)))))
modern gull
same with gpu seems the same
molten bramble
Yeah, it's just a packaging difference.
modern gull
Ya
molten bramble
Go for the cheaper model.
modern gull
all the main specs basicaly seems the same, so i'd sugest buying the cheaper one
modern gull
Go for the cheaper model.
+1
the scorpio one is probably more expensive, or atleast thats what i would assume to be honest
let me check amazon actually
cant find price on the scorpio one
molten bramble
That's because it was LE on release.
modern gull
Ah i see
modern gull
i see
btw isnt xbox one x supposed to be the one that looks like a small fridge/cooler? lol
nvm its the series x
molten bramble
Not on these titles.
prime jasper
no platform wars thanks
mild siren
Disgusting
strong breach
<@!128557464537792512> Thanks for telling me. This was really usefull knowledge....
No problem 👏
modern gull
No problem 👏
🙂
undone mantle
hey can somebody help me my mouse isnt working on raw input but my mouse is going all weird when on not raw someone know the awnser? on battlefield 3 btw
prime jasper
Hey
So Razer products have an issue with randomly not working, my wired Viper keeps disconnecting, like it's powered because the led on the bottom is showing that i'm on my red dpi level, but it won't scroll, move, or click. And then after the mouse stops working, everything else on my laptop stops working and then starts working again but the mouse stays off, sometimes I have some life on it but it will shut down again. Is this a Razer issue or my laptop is dying? This started happening today
molten coral
Seems to be your mouse but you can always try it out on a different PC
Like if the mouse works on a different PC it's probably just your laptop's drivers that need updating
prime jasper
Actually I have a small edit
When it happens
My other things like webcam and headset turn on and off again a couple times
But it always starts with the mouse
prime jasper
I think it's a faulty port
storm osprey
yea that doesnt sound like a mouse problem to me
proud trellis
Hey
So Razer products have an issue with randomly not working, my wired Viper ke...
all mine are fine
storm osprey
i had problems with my first viper mini, but that was a tolerance issue and it was creaking
proud trellis
the viper mini looks like a nice mouse tbf
https://youtu.be/Gb1TaVmBtLM ignore that this is an ASMR but how many buttons are there on that mouse , i didnt know it had that many
storm osprey
viper mini is near perfect, and for the price, its an easy recommendation
molten coral
It's a razer though 
proud trellis
only thing is it might be to small for my hands
razer is a nice company tbh
customer support for me has been good
molten coral
Bad quality products
proud trellis
i would only get mice , keyboards and if i ever wanted to , a moniter if they ever do any in the future that aren't way way overpriced
storm osprey
theres a regular viper thats bigger than viper mini, though a few bucks more but does have a better sensor
and i normally avoided razer products too, but the viper line really is that good
proud trellis
would never buy their gaming chair tho
storm osprey
even though i did have a problem with one mouse already xD
molten coral
Eh even if they upped their quality I'll still avoid them.
The brand just leaves a bad taste
But anyway that is just my experience
storm osprey
i thankfully never bought razer before until the viper mini
proud trellis
if i was too buy another keyboard or mice tho i would get a G502 100%
storm osprey
🤮
proud trellis
and probs a hotswappable TKL keyboard with gatreon black switches lubed
storm osprey
i dont get the point of lubing non silent switches
storm osprey
yea theres going to be a difference but unless you really want the switch profile that doesnt come silent, i would just get a silent variant
proud trellis
thinking about it the stock sound sounds nice
storm osprey
theres like 5 ways of reducing noise, if you only lube youre really just getting a smoother experience
proud trellis
yeah
storm osprey
some logitech ergo mouse afaik
proud trellis
the shape of it is so weird looking
storm osprey
its supposed to be better for your wrist
storm osprey
i doubt that kind of mouse has the specs for gaming
proud trellis
loll imagine that
opal cliff
Is it normal for a game to suddenly get worse performance the next with nothing changed and the settings all the same?
day
opaque saddle
Is it normal for a game to suddenly get worse performance the next with nothing...
Maybe you have had updated your nvidia GPU driver
opal cliff
I did just now but I didn’t update my driver when I noticed the worst performance
But wouldn’t update driver give you better performance
heady solstice
proud trellis
the fuck
latent light
3060 will launch with 12GB and 6GB variants
latent light
Idk
storm osprey
that makes no sense
theres no way the 3060 is going to have more vram than the 3060 ti
latent light
I think all RTX 3000 has underwhelming VRAM capacity except 3090
storm osprey
i still dont get the VRAM laments either
latent light
3060 is definitely gonna have 12GB model
storm osprey
yea, you can say its "just enough" but i dont think its anything worth feeling ripped off about
nvidia could have named the 3060 ti the 3060 and then came out with 3060 ti with more vram
latent light
Remember when there was GTX 770 with more VRAM than 780 and 780Ti
storm osprey
nopes, i first started looking into pcs around 900 launch
latent light
Ah
proud trellis
i think NVIDIA failed math
latent light
3060 12GB will probably cost same as 3060Ti
storm osprey
is 3060ti at least faster?
latent light
4GB more VRAM but slower
proud trellis
it doesnt make sense to me tho
why would they make the cheaper cards have more VRAM then 2 high ender cards
storm osprey
maybe its not gddr6x or whatever is on the 3080 and they just want to use it?
coarse nimbus
Isn't the reason the current 3000 series cards that are "under-vramed" because it's the expensive type..so a 12gb could be of a shit variety and be worse than 8gb 
storm osprey
like amd vs nvidia currently is
but if the alternative to get slower vram is more vram thats a trade anyone ill make
cyberpunk recommends 8gb at 4k
latent light
8GB VRAM is minimum spec for 4K imo
storm osprey
well if thats your minimum and nvidia s at 10gb that sounds like they gave a little extra
i still think it weird 10gb is universally brought up but i never heard anyone complain about 2080tis 11gb
coarse nimbus
I'll complain about it for being an odd number
storm osprey
i love odd numbers...
hardy storm
Me too.
storm osprey
storm osprey
niceee
cunning grail
elo
storm osprey
howdy
storm osprey
im an an angel
storm osprey
give her the stank eye
latent light
@storm osprey I mean if the $700 1080Ti had 11GB two generations ago I'd expect that within two gens that a $700 card would have at least the same amount or more, not less like the 3080
storm osprey
its not like getting more than 2x the performance doesnt account for anything though
latent light
Well performance is always a given for each new gen
storm osprey
and losing 1gb but going from gddr5 (?) to gddr6x is another point
and its not like 1gb is worth a valid complaint either
its basically a principle complaint
would i have wanted more vram, hell yea why not, but too many people act like its a robbery that we only got 10gb and its not
latent light
AMD offers 16GB GDDR6 @16 Gbps on a card at $580
storm osprey
idk how many times relative doesnt make one bad
7/10 isnt bad because theres a 10/10
proud trellis
one of my friends has 1x8gb ram stick in his pc currently but the speed of it is only 2133mhz , should he just get another 8gb stick thats 2133mhz or get a new set thats 2666mhz ?
the new set is like 60 pound
storm osprey
i did say earlier that i would take more vram if it was gddr6 vs gddr6x too
but that still doesnt change that its not worth a complaint
latent light
I wish the 3080 had at least 12-16GB, would make more sense once you consider that next gen games are pushing for photorealistic graphics, potentially leading to much more VRAM demanding games
storm osprey
🤷 i hardly partake in future guessing
latent light
No games this year are "next-gen"
storm osprey
cyberpunk?
latent light
Hardly any games next year will be next gen as well
storm osprey
i mean, it cant even run on base last gen games
latent light
Cyberpunk graphics aren't even amazing lmao
molten coral
It's a hit/miss with cyberpunk
storm osprey
that is basically false but ok
molten coral
some stuff look amazing other stuff look like shit
storm osprey
cyberpunk graphically is at least an 8/10 overall
molten coral
yeah
latent light
Next gen game should be a 10/10 in graphics
storm osprey
well.. unless youre talking base xbox/ps4 grahics...
your standards seem a bit off honestly
prime jasper
I wonder why it's not possible to adjust anti aliasing in cp2077
I hope cdpr adds that option in future patches
it's part of why performance is as bad as it is
storm osprey
2077 isnt the best looking game sure, but its also fucking huge and dense
latent light
IMO Ghost of Tsushima and TLOU2 have better graphics than Cyberpunk in terms of texture detail and shit
storm osprey
yea something like metro looks better when theres 5 ai on screen at once and simple "walk from point A to B"
id say ghost of tsushima leans hard on its art style more than its technical prowess
prime jasper
2077 isnt the best looking game sure, but its also fucking huge and dense
that doesn't matter if the ai is nonexistent
dense city, but full of braindead dummies
storm osprey
dense city, but full of braindead dummies
ok? do you need top level robot ai in this game?
storm osprey
thats unreasonable but ok
uhhh, i didnt follow cyberpunk but when the hell did they promise top notch ai?
molten coral
^
prime jasper
to be honest, I can't tell you
storm osprey
figures
prime jasper
but they did mention "top notch" at one point
don't discredit what I'm saying just because I can't provide a quote
molten coral
The AI isn't horrible though
storm osprey
ehh theres an article from yeaars ago that said game devs dont improve ai because if they made better ai they wouldnt be making games in the first place
molten coral
Nah, it's perfectly fine. It's simply impossible to program 1000's of NPCs.
npcs from GTA are also doing fuck all
dunno why you get a hard on for that
storm osprey
i mean... that could be 100% true..
again.. relative doesnt mean the other sucks though
i will never understand this train of thought
prime jasper
nonetheless, it still sucks
storm osprey
sure
proud trellis
gta v npc's are dumb as fuck
molten coral
So what are the GTA NPCs doing differently than in Cyberpunk?
prime jasper
everything
molten coral
right
prime jasper
you clearly haven't played both games long, have you?
storm osprey
im gonna assume youre trolling because every extreme point of view from you has been backed by absolutely nothing
molten coral
ok bye
storm osprey
if that why you left because of people like me i hate to see how you fair in the real world
prime jasper
this isn't "the real world"
molten coral
It isn't about trolling but you don't even say why it's better
just ''everything''
lol
prime jasper
it's common sense
molten coral
Right
storm osprey
"cdpr said they will provide top notch ai"
"when"
"idk"
molten coral
I've but there is nothing special about GTA's NPCs
prime jasper
yeah, you're twisting my words around
I'm done with you people
shouldn't have come here in the first place
storm osprey
nah.. thats basically exactly how that convo went
prime jasper
have fun
molten coral
They walk from A to B and say some words when you get close to them
coarse nimbus
developers stated that the 1,000+ NPCs each have their own "hand-made" routine. The devs compared this to The Witcher 3 where some villagers in-game would not have daily routines at all. A "hand-made" routine could mean anything from washing clothes or visiting different locations at certain times, to simply rocking in a chair for the entire day. https://screenrant.com/cyberpunk-2077-npcs/
storm osprey
well thats not really AI at all isnt it?
modern gull
How come they have to update origin all the time? Each update seems to fix nothing. Also after all these years you still cant download and play game on origin at the same time cause it still limits downloads to 2.5mb/s
Do they even have origin patch notes somewhere?
proud trellis
i dont even go on steam anymore as i barley play any games now
modern gull
but there you can download max speed anyways tho while playing
modern gull
lol
proud trellis
only games i played recently was cod CW and csgo
proud trellis
i mainly just have the blizzard app open instead of steam nowadays
modern gull
oh
btw origin just updated and reminded me of this limit basically. but good thing is EA games or origin have mostly games that dont interest me so wont have big problems with it. its just annoying when i download stuff there in the first place.
modern gull
lol
modern gull
ah i see. didnt like apex legends to be honest
proud trellis
mainly waiting to get 16GB of ram so i can run them smoother
modern gull
nice
proud trellis
ah i see. didnt like apex legends to be honest
its not my cup of tea either tbf
modern gull
i ordered 32 gb yesterday lol
modern gull
its not my cup of tea either tbf
The movement is too much there i think. kind of reminds me of cod i must say, dont like that series either.
modern gull
your set for life then lol
atleast 5 next years i assume
proud trellis
8gb is so so annoying , especially this new cod , i have to close everything to run it and i still even get stuttering
yeah
i might get 32gb in the future but seems like a waste for me rn
modern gull
i thing you should have atleast 16gb to behonest
modern gull
i might get 32gb in the future but seems like a waste for me rn
Depends how much you need i guess. 16 gb should be perfect for several years i guess
dont think games even recomend more than 8 gb these days anyways or?
proud trellis
i mainly play games and just leave discord open but 8gb is struggling
minimum is 8gb nowadays
for most games popular i think
proud trellis
yeah
idk how to say this but in the future , like im saying 5+ years i think 16gb will become the new 8gb where its minimum if u know what i mean
for games
modern gull
you know it might even come sooner tho, games are usually limited to consoles in some areas so if those have like 16 or 32 gb....
ps5 has 16gb
proud trellis
cant believe the ps4 has 8gb must be so shite nowadays
modern gull
so 16 might become minimum maybe in few years when devs push console to their limits
proud trellis
yeah
modern gull
hahah
proud trellis
i mean alot of popular games come out and they needed loads of ram this year
you had cyberpunk ( i think they need something like 16 or 32g)
and flight simulator
modern gull
really?
proud trellis
i think cyberpunk does im not sure
modern gull
so those for recomended
ah let me check atleast recomended
cant send photo so need to spam sorry lol
MINIMUM:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7 or 10
Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K or AMD FX-8310
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 or AMD Radeon RX 470
DirectX: Version 12
Storage: 70 GB available space
Additional Notes: In this game you will encounter a variety of visual effects that may provide seizures or loss of consciousness in a minority of people. If you or someone you know experiences any of the above symptoms while playing, stop and seek medical attention immediately.
RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 10
Processor: Intel Core i7-4790 or AMD Ryzen 3 3200G
Memory: 12 GB RAM
Graphics: GTX 1060 6GB / GTX 1660 Super or Radeon RX 590
DirectX: Version 12
Storage: 70 GB available space
Additional Notes: SSD recommended
modern gull
i guess it depends on object quality or something
proud trellis
yeah
modern gull
not to bad requirements tho
proud trellis
im 90% sure flight sim needs something like 16gb+ as someone in here has 16gb ram and plays flight sim and he said the game takes up most of his ram
modern gull
Ya that sounds fair enough to for flight sim
weak girder
rdr2 wasnt ram heavy either
modern gull
they still need to store info tho
proud trellis
there was another game im pretty sure u need a shit tonne of ram for too
oh thats it ! warhammer
modern gull
oh
modern gull
Wonder about next battlefield specs tho. isnt they at 8 gb recomend or was it 16 gb now?
ah lol
proud trellis
Wonder about next battlefield specs tho. isnt they at 8 gb recomend or was it 16...
8gb is minimum i think
!!specs
silent oasisBOT
ℹ Battlefield V: System Requirements:
Refer to this image to know more about the minimum and recommended system requirements in order to play Battlefield V
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proud trellis
yeah it is
modern gull
ya
proud trellis
escape tarkov was ram heavy
i wanted to get that but idk if i can run it
looks very fun and realistic
modern gull
hmm. i am sure those 8gb actually might stand next game
proud trellis
maybe
modern gull
we'll see
proud trellis
I think recommend with be 16gb for a few more years tho atleast 2-3 more years ?
modern gull
devs have atleast 16gb as roof now. and 16gb becomes more and more commond tho. so soon i guess 16gb will be min
proud trellis
yeah
modern gull
ya probably idk
proud trellis
we can only wait and see what the developers recommend
modern gull
yep
one thing i am pretty sure of is next game will have better graphics
common specs keep getting stronger and stronger
modern gull
mhm
weak girder
dont get escape from tarkov
its very confuding extremely badly optimized and no one plays it anymore
mortal rune
My network goes on and off the led indicator go red every 1 min or 2 and so on last time i noticed that it was running quit nice but after i downloaded a windows update called security enhancement or something my connection didn't see light I'm having this problem for years i don't know what to do even network services don't help
weak girder
its caused by conflicts in internet explorer so your best bet is to exit all problems including internet explorer
click start and in the search bar type inetcpl.cpl and press enter
in the internet options dialog box click the advanced tab
Under the Reset Internet Explorer settings, click Reset, and then click Reset again.
Wait until Internet Explorer finishes resetting the settings, and then click OK.
Open Internet Explorer.
@mortal rune
mortal rune
I'll try it now
weak girder
if it doesnt work i can give you extra steps
mortal rune
Internet Explorer you mean the browser right
mortal rune
K
Yea i did it
I don't use it to browse by the way i only run bf3 as it launchs no more@weak girder
weak girder
did it fix anything?
mortal rune
But thnx for the help
Idk yet my wifi go on and off
So if it stay for sometime its definitely a fix
plucky dove
supple bane
Why have you stole hess' profile picture? 
ebon yarrow
Imposter! 
fallen harbor
yeah what did you do to hess
ebon yarrow
INB4 they change their name to hess 
prime jasper
me and my mate can join eachother in battlefield V pc it says we have no friends online i have asked bf support and they havent gotten back to me please help
storm osprey
within bfv it can be stupid, also origin can be dumb
but i try to join friends through origin since thats more consistent so try that
prime jasper
tried that
this has been an issue forever
me and my friends origin both says chat offline
storm osprey
reformat drive its on and redownload
ive had a friend do that for a different issue and it worked, granted extreme
finite torrent
👍
storm osprey
why is that correlated?
proud trellis
it always goes bad around Christmas time
storm osprey
... weird
finite torrent
You live in a snowy place?
proud trellis
no
finite torrent
Well I'm out of ideas
mortal fable
latent light
11900K will have 8 cores and 16 threads, 10900K has 10 cores and 20 threads
11900K is still faster in multicore
Double digit IPC gains over 10th gen
proud trellis
that RGB ram looks nice
latent light
11900K and 11700K will have the same amount of cores, only difference is clockspeed
11700K has 5.0 GHz boost, 11900K has 5.3 GHz
storm osprey
that RGB ram looks nice
get out
proud trellis
gonna send u lots of pics when i install my ram btw nyphon
storm osprey
please dont
vagrant quarry
Guys Im looking at getting the RM750X PSU for the RTX3080 is that good enough? I heard the GPU requires 3 8 pins or something
storm osprey
depends what gpu you want and rest of build
if you are running a 5600x with no OC you can easily get away with a 750w psu
if you are running a 10900k with an OC i would recommend 850w
plus if you get something like asus 3080 strix that is 3 8 pins
where most aftermarket cards only require 2 8 pins
vagrant quarry
MSI Gaming X Trio 3080
I7 7700 non-K
@storm osprey
Just checked the specs sheet.. it needs 3x 8pin cables lol so i think im good. I havent dismantled my pc since i built it so idk if the cpu is already using the 8pin
storm osprey
vagrant quarry
I wanna install it on sat
storm osprey
not sure if you should be swapping cpu and vga 8 pins
idk OCE pricing so cross check for yourself
click that to see all the "tier A psus" and click away at them to see the prices
west radish
pls help my laptop charger isnt working
vale horizon
pls help my laptop charger isnt working
is it plugged in?
vagrant quarry
Which of these is the best option? I need to oder one quick before the weekends lmao. Thanks in advance
dull spade
anyone els having trouble with the EA servers again? i can't connect.
ashen ether
Airflow help:
Hello, I have an upcoming build with this case. It has a tempered glass front with mesh on the sides for 3 intake fans. Top can have 2 fans with a dust filter and 1 for rear.
I currently have 6 120mm 1200rpm fans and is looking for advice and suggestions for my case airflow. Thie is my current plans for the case in the image below.
I will be rocking a Ryzen 3 3100 with stock cooler and and a 1650 super.
Thanks in advance people
fallen harbor
the recommended setting is usually all fans of the front getting air in and all the rest of the fans pushing air out
floral cedar
fellas I need some opinions. I’m buying a new laptop and my final short list has two different configurations. a. i5 10th gen and 1650 ti or b. i7 10th gen and 1650
which one is better for gaming? I don’t game a lot just during vacations mainly and very casual gaming otherwise
fallen harbor
i5 10th and 1650super is a better combo for gaming
(1650ti doesnt exist, you probably meant super)
glossy plinth
Airflow help:
Hello, I have an upcoming build with this case. It has a tempered ...
5 intakes and 1 exhaust would be pretty nice
floral cedar
(1650ti doesnt exist, you probably meant super)
lol idk man I checked the dxdiag in the showroom and it showed 1650ti
probably we both live in diff countries and they call them by diff names eh?
ashen ether
@glossy plinth how about this. 3 front intakes. 1 top intake, 1 top outake and 1 rear outake
@fallen harbor 1650ti exists but only for laptops
He clearly said he was looking for laptops
@floral cedar and speaking of laptops, you are better off getting a ryzen 5 4600h laptop
With 1650/ti
floral cedar
do you have any suggestions with the same config?
ashen ether
Lenovo Legion 5
floral cedar
yeah I was talking about lenovo only
in India theres the 5i series only
Havent found amd versions in about 3 showrooms till now
ashen ether
I've done gaming laptop reaearch before because I originally planned on getting a laptop. But since covid happened and there is no point of getting a laptop because there's nowhere to travel I decided to get a pc
it should be available on amazon india
floral cedar
lol I feel ya I wanna have a pc as well but I have to move in 1.5 years so I need a laptop only
ashen ether
You're indian as you said right?
floral cedar
Yeah man and 2 months back Amazon India sent me an empty box for the Airpods I ordered so since then I’ve stopped ordering from them 😄
was never refunded despite heavy complaints so my whole family stopped buying from amazon
I’ll check other brands but if I habe to choose from the above 2 configs only which one would you recommend for fps/online games?
ashen ether
There is no cash on delivery option?
1650 and 1650ti on laptops doesnt really make much of a difference from what i've seen on youtube videos
floral cedar
There is no cash on delivery option?
no use because they dont let you open the package before paying and if it isn’t up to your satisfaction the delivery agent goes away and you have to register another complaint
ashen ether
it's like, 3 to 10 fps difference
floral cedar
1650 and 1650ti on laptops doesnt really make much of a difference from what i'v...
Oooh
so i7 and 1650 is betterr then ig
ashen ether
https://youtu.be/GeT84dzMlSs @floral cedar
If you have productivity the ryzen 5 4600h is literally above all of current intel laptops
fallen harbor
<@110109566850584576> 1650ti exists but only for laptops
oic
floral cedar
https://youtu.be/GeT84dzMlSs <@447326765283540992>
honestly dont see any noticeable difference in the normal and ti version
If I dont find a better config in the price range will just buy i7 and 1650 only
Thanks man
You've been quite helpful
ashen ether
yea no probs but I really recommend the ryzen 5 4000 series.
It's just up to you and the availability in your region
i7 is still a very powerful chip for laptops
floral cedar
yeah Ill look for AMD as well. Checked the benchmark tests and it blew i5 out of the water in multicore scores
opal cliff
I get a sense that ryzen cpu/ nvudia gpu is best combo
floral cedar
is ryzen 5 4600H with 1650ti a better alternative to i7 and 1650 tho?
storm osprey
Which of these is the best option? I need to oder one quick before the weekends ...
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/ cross reference prices with tier list and find the best deal
storm osprey
why not?
chrome skiff
That was nice of her. What kind of specs?
storm osprey
specs? of a desk?
coarse nimbus
height adjustable...size, configuration, cable management material type
storm osprey
natural north west american grown red oak with a 22m lacquer finish for durability and heat dissipation
coarse nimbus
how many watts is it though
storm osprey
idk about that but its 1290 hardness
i should have gotten a chestnut or teak if i wanted maximum hardness though
coarse nimbus
whats that on the rockwell scale
storm osprey
which one?
chrome skiff
no no my mobile didn't update last thing I saw from him was pc related then that message
didn't see anything about the desk until I got to my desktop
infact it must of been pretty long ago since I cant find it and im back a few days huh, desk specs are nice
had a bad snow storm and lost internet so maybe it didn't upload since the last time I was on dunno
tranquil wind
modern gull
what would you guys do. Wait for 3080 or get 3070 with no wait?
*1080p, but would want 3080 for extra performance on future DXR enabled games
strong breach
pog 130 RTX3080's arriving 21.12.2020 to the shop i ordered it from
maybe it is finaly my turn
Probably not though
modern gull
pog 130 RTX3080's arriving 21.12.2020 to the shop i ordered it from
Woah thats nice, hopefully you will get lucky tho. 3070's are in stock here now tho. But idk what too do lol. the 3080 is like 10-20% faster than 3070 in most cases. this gap becomes much bigger at say like 4k, but i dont use 4k soo idk if those 10-20% is really worth it.
strong breach
depends what monitor you've got
👀
if it's 1080p then there's really no reason to go with 3080
strong breach
all games run above 75fps on ultra in 1080p with both
so i would get the 3070 in that case
modern gull
ya but thinking more like DXR based games
if DXR wasnt a thing i would take the 3070 any day to behonest
also if more games get DLSS 2.0 that would also make my choise easier lol
strong breach
im fairly sure even with RTX enabled the on the 3070 it could run stuff over 75fps but you'll probably have to select High settings instead of Max settings
in most cases there's basically no difference between high and max in terms of how the game looks
modern gull
I saw DXR settings on low in battlefield it still looked decent actually
strong breach
i wouldn't use RTX at all when playing multiplayer games
modern gull
How so?
strong breach
just purely on the reason that you'll get less fps regardless
Single players though 👏
modern gull
btw personaly i dont mind SSR they look decent but what if next battlefield have RTGI etc... tho. might not even like that game to be honest we will see about that, but hoping i will.
ah ya ofc lol
modern gull
hmm considering the same to be honest
strong breach
i ordered myself a 1440p ultrawide 160hz which was the only reason i picked up 3080 and not the 3070
modern gull
Maybe i should remove DXR as a variable. it would make the choice much easier, and example like i said i dont care too much for the DXR reflections unless they would give people and atvantage.
ah i see
3080 is really good at high res tho
strong breach
that reminds me 🤔 AMD does have better performance at 1080p
modern gull
% gap becomes so high beetween 3070/3080 at very high res
strong breach
if you'd like that path
modern gull
hmm interesting
lofty light
If you can find the AMD cards sadly
lofty light
Had to get my bro a 3070
strong breach
awful
strong breach
ill go find up a benchmark
modern gull
strongly considering 3070 atm i must say
ah dont have to 😛
hmm, bit tough one this. but its like 10-20% extra performance for 200 EUR lol
basicaly 3080 at 100 fps is 80-90 fps on 3070. hmmm
1080p*
strong breach
gotta remember that your monitor is 75hz
so 100fps or 80-90fps
it'll look exactly the same
modern gull
ya mhm. but thinking in the % how much you loose. around 10-20 fps loss isnt really that huge
and the target fps would be 75, hopefuly for many years.
strong breach
you'll be covered for plenty of years
my current GTX1070 still runs all the games at over 75fps (except Cyberpunk)
and probably microsoft flight sim xd that game won't run above 60 on anything xd
modern gull
thats what i am upgrading from aswell lol
modern gull
the 3070 will last you like 4-5years
mhm hopefully, i had mine 1070 for 2 years and its still decent performance in many games. Technicaly this has lasted 4 years so far.
thanks for your input tho, i appreciate it.
modern gull
@strong breach Canceled the 3080 and ordered the 3070 instead 😛
strong breach
👀 👏
modern gull
ez saved 200 eur lol. Hopefully it lasts long, and lasts a while regarding DXR in games. Games look really nice with current global illumination systems etc... without the need for raytracing anyways.
As far as i know in terms of battlefield i think they use Enlighten in frostbite for realtime GI which really looks great i must say. I dont know if they thinking of replacing that with ray trace GI.
strong breach
people already sometimes blend to the environment even without DXR
modern gull
really? interesting
strong breach
that's at least what i've heard from my friends
modern gull
oh i see
strong breach
couldn't have tested myself that yet due to not having a gpu cabable of dxr yet
modern gull
i will probably download bf5 and try performance with dxr when i get the card, so will keep that in mind.
ah i see
Man, sometimes i really wish i liked bf5 to be honest
modern gull
ah i never really played it much. I currently play some valorant, red dead redemption, bf1/4 and asseto corsa also some vr games. Got more games i play but depends on mood and how tierd i am of them lol, but these are the games i play this week/month.
tardy notch
this may spark some debate, but I kinda need an answer. which CPU is better, AMD or Intel?
proud trellis
rip intel
abstract crater
do you guys think that ryzen 7 5800x and radeon rx 6800xt will be capable of streaming in ultra on bfV?
opaque saddle
What res
abstract crater
FHD
opaque saddle
If it’s like 1080p then it should be, can’t guarantee tho
abstract crater
thx m8
opaque saddle
No worries
Another tips
If you have a spare Graphics cards, at least a 1050ti standard then you can use it as a video capture card
It shall have none or minor impact on gaming performance
abstract crater
yeah, I watched a video about it, I currently have the 1070
opaque saddle
I think you shall do a test first
Coz I remember back in the days OBS runs terribly with 1050ti while gaming
glossy plinth
i think nyphon or some other guy said a better psu gives more fps
i think he lyin tho
strong breach
I mean yeah kinda but not really
Cause gpu might need more power to run when overclocked
You could argue that better psu gives more fps but yeah massive grain of salt
molten coral
coarse nimbus
2k watt psu when
storm osprey
i think nyphon or some other guy said a better psu gives more fps
you damn liar
storm osprey
ah i never really played it much. I currently play some valorant, red dead redem...
vaguely read your conundrum, imo id go 3060ti or 6800 (assuming amd doesnt have driver issues i keep forgetting to look that up)
storm osprey
i personally wouldnt pay 100 more bucks for 15 fps, and i would still get a 6800 over both
molten coral
400?
storm osprey
actually math wise its hard to recommend anything over 3060ti
3060ti is $400 right?
molten coral
Ehhh not here
molten coral
Between 500-650 euro
coarse nimbus
But if you have more than one display... wait still 8gb, damn you insufficient vram
storm osprey
Between 500-650 euro
how much are 3070 and 6800?
hardy storm
Why bother with a 3090 when you could have an A6000? https://www.tweaktown.com/news/76781/nvidias-new-rtx-a6000-workstation-card-with-48gb-and-costs-4650/index.html
molten coral
Dunno not home atm
storm osprey
bah
turbid verge
or you can get an RTX 5000 quadro
coarse nimbus
Only if you rave about it's raytracing capabilities
hardy storm
5000 has a measly 16GB VRAM 😦 Need that ram for Tensorflow AI baby.
So, I work in HPC. We have customers that have ordered in upwards of 150 of the A6000's for their HPC needs. Its insane.
hardy storm
Ya, large customers. Mostly State Universities, Military, NOAA, etc
glossy plinth
proud trellis
glossy plinth
ty ice
molten bramble
Certainly not the first time they've come out with GPUs.
modern gull
i personally wouldnt pay 100 more bucks for 15 fps, and i would still get a 6800...
If i bought the 3080 it would only be a 10-20% ish fps gain over 3070 at 1080p for 200 eur+ thats like 900 eur vs 700 eur. So ended up deciding to buy the 3070 instead after originaly ordering the 3080. I dont really have too high focus on DXR in games, but it would be really nice to have the performance for that aswell for many years, from what i have heard AMD is out of the question regarding DXR performance.
storm osprey
3070 is still a bit overkill for 1080p 75hz but i guess if you want to guarantee maxing cyberpunk natively with rtx then there you go
modern gull
3070 is still a bit overkill for 1080p 75hz but i guess if you want to guarantee...
I dont think soo tho. Its not like i want this card to have nice fps for only a few games. I want it to last long, thats why i wanted to get the 3080 in the first place. 3080 would be much better at higher res as the gap between these two cards increasse alot with higher res.
also like i said 3070 vs 3080 is only 10-20% ish diffrence at 1080p. it costs like 200 EUR ish more for those %. Which is kind of not worth it but at the same time i wouldn't mind it. 10-20% diffrence in fps isnt really that bad.
So i decided to cancle the 3080 and buy the 3070 instead and save 200 eur
how come everyone calls dxr rtx tho?
molten coral
Because Nvidia advertised it like that
coarse nimbus
We hear youre not pushing RTX enough.. care to reconsider or will we contact your next of kin? 
modern gull
Because Nvidia advertised it like that
Ah when i think of it it makes sense i suppose.
latent light
RTX 4000 talks occurring, basically an Ampere refresh on Samsung 5nm node, expected to launch Q3 2021
Codenamed LoveLace
turbid verge
if its samsung again doing chips gl on the stock
apparently the stock issues goes back to samsung not producing enough chips for Nvidia and the AIB's
storm osprey
stock sucks for amd cpu's and gpus's too though
latent light
Gigabyte WRX80 motherboard for upcoming Threadripper Pro 3000WX series, now featuring 8-channel memory and a whopping seven PCIe 4.0 x16 slots
Threadripper is now a step closer to Epyc
coarse nimbus
one asks what youd do with all those 4.0 slots...mass data transferring between your SSDs?
modern gull
one asks what youd do with all those 4.0 slots...mass data transferring between ...
probably bit coin mine
coarse nimbus
but gpus dont need 4.0
modern gull
but gpus dont need 4.0
idk man to be honest. maybe someone made that statement with pcie 3.0. i dont realy know how much badnwith we really need or how this affects performance
coarse nimbus
modern gull
lol sorry
coarse nimbus
trail heron
Is there a place for help
storm osprey
!!support @trail heron
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upbeat relic
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storm osprey
discord is not the place, look at links above @upbeat relic
storm osprey
well i doubt youre gonna get help from dice here so good luck
upbeat relic
Ok
ashen ether
Currently planning to this fan orientaion. Is it not bad to put an exhaust and intake fans next to each other? I want to do this because I have a tempered glass front panel and I'm afraid it has limited airflow on front
Zoom in in the front panel in the image below. Those small squares is only where the front fans will intake air
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422598689928773632/789111494813548564/IMG_20201217_201630.jpg
A closer look here
The intake holes are on both sides of the case
modern gull
Too mee that looks abit off not gonna lie
hardy storm
From anything I've read or understood it's that all fans on top should always exhaust, not intake.
modern gull
Personaly i always in front out back/top
hardy storm
That holds true for every data center I've worked in and PCs/servers I own.
modern gull
This could disturb the airflow tho wouldnt it? from the photos i mean
sinful mantle
Hot air rises.
modern gull
@ashen ether Btw if you worried about the limited airflow infront dont buy cases that is closed of in front. The case migh have really good airflow tho, but personaly i would never buy a case that is closed off like this on the front fans.
sinful mantle
Just place your intake fans on front to cool drives. Rear and top fans should be at a higher velocity than front fans to pull hot air out.
in fact for overall airflow if your top and rear fans were of a high enough velocity you actually wouldn't need front fans.
latent light
Holy fuck
Ryzen 6000 'Rembrandt' APUs come out late 2021, will use RDNA3
Rumors previously suggested they would use RDNA2
Could be the first time high resolution/refresh rate gaming is playable on an iGPU
ashen ether
@modern gull actually my fault for blindly buying this. I didnt think of tempered vs mesh front was when I was browsing shit
I just bought this because I watched some youtube vids about the case and cheaper than most
modern gull
<@279414895974285314> actually my fault for blindly buying this. I didnt think o...
Ah i see. No worries tho, you might still get decent amount of air trough those venting holes but like i said i'd never buy one that is closed off like that. For all i know this could even be as good, who knows. But i assume closed ones would provide less air if you see what i am thinking. Btw bought my new case for 50 ish EUR.
prime jasper
It is not necessarily a bad thing with venting holes just on the side, since it could make for a more quiet case than those mesh cases.
modern gull
https://www.notebookcheck.net/A-new-leak-purports-to-unveil-code-names-for-upcom...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYtTJgj15dc dont need igpu when you have dedicated graphics that is this tiny anyways. Assuming its size of the computer you are talking about as of igpu, why else would anyone focus on igpu's i mean.
fallen harbor
guise
does dual channel perform the same if using integrated graphics?
nvm it does
latent light
@modern gull APUs will replace dGPUs one day
Ryzen 6000 or 7000 series will definitly bring at least mid-range graphics performance to APUs
RDNA3 is going to have a multi-chip design combined with an inter-connect, similar to Zen2 and Zen3
No doubt that they will put decent sized RDNA3 iGPU chips on future CPUs
modern gull
<@279414895974285314> APUs will replace dGPUs one day
In a perfect world yes, who knows... i dont expect this at all tho. Also depends on future of game engines i'd say.
modern gull
No doubt that they will put decent sized RDNA3 iGPU chips on future CPUs
Thats fantastic for low budget gamers i expect.
When it comes to dGPU these days AMD has 0% chance to win the market sadly, i assume mostly cause of ray tracing as it becomes more and more popular. I heard AMD dont have much to show on this performance wise.
if they can manage to get same performance "including ray tracing" on one chip as 1 dGPU and 1 CPU they probably would make nvidia/intel cry real bad, cause most people would then buy amd i sure would instantly.
storm osprey
i really doubt ray tracing is the driving force behind nvidias success
modern gull
hmm how soo?
storm osprey
its mostly a lack of competition from amd and when they did compete, they fucked i up with instability
modern gull
ah i see. so amd gaven up on dedicated gpu competition?
storm osprey
well no, they just released the 6000 series thats really match nvidia with more vram which more people honestly care about
but it seems like people wont jump to amd when they have a history of being rough around the edges
modern gull
ah nice, i suppose. i dont care much about vram myself tho
storm osprey
its objectively more important than ray tracing
modern gull
i might go amd one thay tho. but staying intel/nvidia for now atleast.
even at 1080p?
storm osprey
yes and im talking pretty literal, in the sense that you can not use ray tracing at all but you cant play games without vram
modern gull
only thing i think about when it comes to vram is texture sizes in games etc... i got 1080p so i dont worry much about vram in regards of res
lol isnt 8gb vram more than enough these days tho?
storm osprey
for 1080p 8gb seems like the sweet spot right now, the point people bring up about vram is future proofing
personally i dont spend more to future proof, i buy for what is reasonable between now and the near future, say 2 years out
modern gull
i see. makes sense but still doubt they will increase texture sizes etc.. in games that much that quick before you actually need to upgrade anways
ah i see
storm osprey
my same train of thought, but its not impossible and people like that safety net i suppose
modern gull
just bought the 3070 expecting it to hold me atleast 3-4 years
ya i was actually gonna buy 3080 for future proofing but, deceded to change my order and buy the 3070
this should last me long enough before i upgrade anyways, hopefully. perhaps in 2-4 years time who knows...
Maybe i'll get amd next. also wanted to upgrade now as of ray tracing etc.. its not that important to me, as game devs already have alot of tools to make their games look amazing. but its a nice have.
storm osprey
i at least think that with amd challenging nvidia and amd supposedly going to have another huge performance boost next gen that we will be seeing a lot of gpu progress in short time
modern gull
Oh ya i see. We will see tho maybe amd manages to pull off some miracle. I am still sure ray tracing is the main cause for nvidia sales tho. As far as i know amd has decent cards themselves, more performance per dollar also. But i lack knowledge on amd so i wouldnt really know for sure.
latent light
Nvidia is going to refresh Ampere on Samsung's 5nm node supposedly in second half of 2021
Samsung 5nm is worse than TSMC 6nm Btw, and way far behind TSMC 5nm
Nvidia Hopper delayed to 2023
RDNA3 is likely gonna be out before Ampere refresh, it's gonna be a rough ride for Nvidia
RDNA3 is gonna be a bigger jump than what RDNA2 was to RDNA1
AMD has potential to dominate in rasterization but Nvidia could come in clutch with DLSS
Also, RX 6000 series drivers are surprisingly good compared to previous launches lol
Not hearing about driver problems
Vega and Navi 1st gen drivers were a disaster
void skiff
I’m confused, what do you mean by where was the notification? They usually don’t do they. Also it’s Battlefield 1, they don’t need to work on the game anymore since BFV & BF6 is now more important. They can still charge their own prices for game servers though. I’m guessing that you got charged with a recurring payment. You should probably check the TOS & payment type before you purchase. Technically you did agree to pay for a server (I’m guessing you paid for one month, not recognising it could be a recurring payment) so they do have the right to charge you for it every date the payment is due to keep it running. That’s not fraud though.
But if you didn’t pay for a server you should content EA, they will solve it from there
How does it not work exactly?
They should do. But I’m not on Xbox. It’s been renamed to custom lobby or something like that.
Okay so let’s get this straight cause something don’t line up. You rented a server for BF1. Cause that’s the only way you can WILLINGLY agree to pay. Am I correct there
Then you are saying it is broken (the server) and now you’re saying that you can’t rent a server anymore
They can’t charge you for a server that you can’t rent in the first place. So that doesn’t line up saying you rented one (by you saying you cant change the name or anything).
Contact EA then. Literally saying it’s fraud here isn’t gonna get you a refund.
But the way you’ve structured this has so many cracks. Like you literally said & I quote “it won’t let me update or name it” which in turns means you have rented a server. But then your saying they don’t support it.
It is not fraud. It’s called a broken product. You are able to get a refund & on this level saying it’s fraud and making it a bigger deal then it is will just get no attention lol. Tomorrow this chat will be filled with somet else
Don’t make a big deal out of it. Contact EA & they will get back to you.
They haven’t on PC. So the only reason why they would’ve done that on Console is cause it’s dead & wanna dedicate more resources to BF:V
Then leave lol
Making it a big deal will get u nowhere
Email them. Go through support chat.
Either way they will refund you for it as long as you can provide proof it doesn’t work. Literally saying it doesn’t work will not get you anywhere
If you don’t like it, pay 2k for a lawyer and sue them for your $70 back or however much they cost these days. But a court will laugh at u for calling it Fraud lol
We all know EA is shit bud. That’s known knowledge and if you didn’t know that u must’ve lived under a rock lol. It’s a problem with a game which was released in 2016. Over 4 years ago now.
Also chill with the racism there mate. Bit to fucking far
One person complaining will do fuck all. Seriously they’ve took money from you. It happens to everyone, but people get mad about it for 15 mins then be like “oh well”, seriously calm tf down. Don’t talk in here until your calm
And stop being racist that shit ain’t cool
Nothing will change lol. Just live with it and check if there is any reoccurring payments in the Xbox payment area. If you see a battlefield 1, you know it ain’t there fault they took your money lol
Plus it’s BF1, who tf cares about that game
modern gull
What happend here lol?
modern gull
RDNA3 is likely gonna be out before Ampere refresh, it's gonna be a rough ride f...
we'll see, wont really look at much gpu news the next few years i assume since i already upgraded tho. but i do watch videos about new tech etc... once in a while so might see then.
storm osprey
I mean. Rdna 2 was supposed to do work but it is really only better at 1080p.
modern gull
I mean. Rdna 2 was supposed to do work but it is really only better at 1080p.
ah i see
latent light
RDNA2 turned out better than what most people expected
I remember seeing rumors that top end RDNA2 would only be 15% faster than 2080Ti in rasterization
Then there were others saying 30-40%
floral cedar
any science buffs here?
void skiff
Yeh sorry lol he was just a bit to dumb to not talk to about it lol
molten bramble
Yeh sorry lol he was just a bit to dumb to not talk to about it lol
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vagrant quarry
anyone here own gaming x trio 3080?
I made a fool of myself installing the dragon center which is full of dogshit and it somewhat fked up my cpu usage .. unless cpu itself is naturally bottlenecked because of the gpu
weak girder
should I wait for the 3050 ti or get a 2060 now
vagrant quarry
I have DragonCenter from my motherboard, it
Whats ur cpu? Curious
molten bramble
i9-9900K
lofty light
The ASUS software isn't much better tbh and I'm a bit of a fanboy of their motherboards
supple bane
at least they work lol, the gigabyte software wont even launch for me haha
i got lucky tho, my bios has all the lighting customisation i need
molten bramble
Bro, I am so happy to be away from Gigabyte/Aorus, that software is actual cancer
supple bane
well i have only had bad experiences with asus motherboard too 
although i only have had 1 asus motherboard and its a really cheap one
but its basically falling apart, anything thats plastic is broken or breaking
the usb 3.0 header, the shroud fell off, the clip for the pcie slot just broke off. all the pins for front io are bent, just generally a poor quality board
molten bramble
Yeah, their quality control fell off. I have some older boards in the C2D and C2Q era that are still fully functional.
opaque saddle
The aorus software is laggy and difficult to use
violet plank
they are all useless and faulty af
most of them just use some win functions anyways,no need for them at all
except rgb control
which you can try to do with open rgb
latent light
MSI basically shit talking about RTX 3000 power consumption with this model lmao
GTX 400 had the highest power consumption and temperatures until RTX 3000
strong breach
ah
today it's been exactly 3 months since i paid for my RTX3080 and don't have it yet
here's to another month 🍷
latent light
Also blower on a 350W card is just plain stupid
Gonna need a blower fan bigger than the one used in the PS5
3 months of waiting is absolutely ridiculous
I'd be getting pissy
strong breach
getting pissy doesn't help tbh
latent light
latent light
Nvidia.... Why did you choose Samsung silicon
Despite TSMC being loaded across the board with 7nm orders from AMD (most of it going to new consoles)
TSMC would still have enough 7nm to supply more chips for Nvidia than Samsung could with 8nm
proud trellis
here's to another month 🍷
im to young too drink wine 
that is bad tho that you haven't received ur graphics card
proud trellis
oh
strong breach
and 130 of them arrive tomorrow
so most likely mine arrives next batch
since i'll be in the 50 - 70 after tomorrow
proud trellis
do you know how long the wait is between each delivery of graphics cards ?
strong breach
🤷♂️
proud trellis
oh
strong breach
when it start getting delivered it's most likely gonna take like 5 days max
2 - 5 days
proud trellis
i mean its good that it is hopefully coming within the next few months but bad how long it has took
could you not even get a refund ? or did u not want a refund
turbid verge
@strong breach then you might get yours in january like me 
strong breach
🍷
latent light
Rocket Lake underwhelming tbh
Intel is desperately trying to throw back swings but they can't get far with 14nm and 10nm
They ordered a lot of TSMC 6nm wafers, first time they've had to rely on another company for chip production in many years
modern gull
I remember seeing rumors that top end RDNA2 would only be 15% faster than 2080Ti...
Thats great tho. Rasterization performance is still important, but the fact that nvidia has good ray tracing performance makes them overall a bit better in my book. Many game engines is still capable of making great looking games without ray tracing i'd say. There are many GI solutions for engines which is quite great, battlefield as an example. Not perfect but does a really good job. Silicon Studio is making a new hybrid GI, i dont know if dice will include this in their next game. Personaly i think SSR is decent enough, so could live without ray traced reflections even tough they are pretty nice. I'd say global illumination is more important. Anyways would love to see that hybrid GI.
modern gull
Then there were others saying 30-40%
Probably some fan boys. But for all we know it could still be real.
modern gull
i mean i have a queue number now
Closer everyday, damn 3 months tho feels bad man.
vagrant quarry
i9-9900K
Mine is i7 7700 either its a bottleneck or my pc bios is fked
Or my mb and cpu needs upgrade
finite torrent
Yo if anyone remembers me briefly talking about my corrupted hard drive a few weeks ago, I finally found the clip I had taken of it
https://youtu.be/hdelM4f2qAM
