technology

[glossy plinth]

people buying 6800xt

[storm osprey]

do 6000 series have driver instability too?

[glossy plinth]

since its amd gpu

im assuming it does

only buy nvidia cards now

[storm osprey]

i mean, im stuck with nvidia because of my monitor

[glossy plinth]

congrats

you have the superior gpu

[proud trellis]

doesn’t amd cards need freesync ?

or something

[glossy plinth]

i think they need freesync

dunno maybe nyphon knows

[proud trellis]

my moniter has a freesync option

[glossy plinth]

my monitor is only gysync

[storm osprey]

freesync/gsync is like vsync but better

cards dont NEED them

its just a feature like ray tracing really

(though sync is a much better feature and personally i wouldnt play without it)

originally freesync only worked with amd cards, and gsync with nvidia cards

but they have both opened up to eachother but you need a recent monitor for that

since i bought my gsync monitor in 2016, my gsync ONLY works with nvidia gpus

[glossy plinth]

all the monitors i find now are just freesync

finding a g sync monitor is rare

thats why im only buying alienware monitors

[storm osprey]

well freesync is cheaper and performs like gsync 95%

and now that freesync works for both, why spend more on gsync to get slightly better performance

[glossy plinth]

people need that extra 5%

because who wouldnt like extra performance

[storm osprey]

its not like more fps, i just think it had a further sync range

[glossy plinth]

i know you would like extra performance

[storm osprey]

im about bang for buck

i would 100% get a freesync monitor if i was buying today

[glossy plinth]

..

g sync still better

[urban thicket]

some games play better with vsync off and your frames capped in nv control panel

more snappy without the frame tearing

even if you have gsync and freesync

(i have gsync and freesync)

[opal cliff]

How would have gtx 1070 handle cyberpunk?

[glossy plinth]

uhh

my guess good in low-mid

but maybe nyphon will have a better answer

[storm osprey]

🤷 it aint out

but 1070 is above their recommended 1060

[opal cliff]

Yeah so I hopefully I can run it well

[glossy plinth]

same here

[opal cliff]

What do you have?

[glossy plinth]

r7 3700x / 5700xt

[opal cliff]

Oh nice

[mild siren]

Im sick of reddit idiots labling NVIDIA as greedy corporation and AMD as the shining light

[storm osprey]

people like the "david vs goliath" story

imo the only disappointment from nvidia since ive been pc gaming was 2000 series

[mild siren]

Yeah

It wasnt very big anyways

[storm osprey]

now intel, thats a scenario where they were being lazy af and amd kicked them into gear

[mild siren]

Intel, yes

I agree

not nvidia

[storm osprey]

we would probably still be on 4c8t for i7s

[coarse nimbus]

How those aib 6000 series GPUs doing?

[glossy plinth]

3000s > 6000s

[glossy plinth]

3000 takes the lead again

[storm osprey]

looks like aib 6800xt get a small boost in performance with better thermals and acoustics

granted, FE is a triple fan gpu

[glossy plinth]

wait thats just power and watts

that doesnt matter that much

[storm osprey]

ehh, its a point to be had, but i wouldnt base a purchasing decision on power consumption when the difference is less than a lightbulb between the 2 brands

[glossy plinth]

power consumption doesnt matter

all that matters is performance, temps

wait now that i think about it

temps can be different based on pc

[storm osprey]

thats any decent reviewer will use an open test bench and the same atmosphere temps

[tawny kelp]

this game used to run decently but now runs like shit anyone know why?

[glossy plinth]

imma guess you have an amd card

[tawny kelp]

nah a 1660 actually

i used to have an amd card

it ran like shit

bought a 1660 and sold the amd and it ran well

and now it runs like shit again out of nowhere

[glossy plinth]

you know who can probably fix this

@storm osprey

mr orange cat here has alot of knowledge

[tawny kelp]

why could he fix this? lol

[glossy plinth]

but ay maybe just change dx versions

[tawny kelp]

im on 11 rn

[glossy plinth]

dx11 and 12 for me in bf is huge difference

[tawny kelp]

I can try 12

[glossy plinth]

im using 12rn

[tawny kelp]

bf1 runs well on 11

[proud trellis]

i have a 16 series card

[tawny kelp]

and?

[proud trellis]

so i might be able to help

[tawny kelp]

does it run well?

[proud trellis]

yes

[tawny kelp]

what do your nvidia control panel settings look like

and what gfx settings in game

[proud trellis]

i play ultra with 1440p and get 70-80FPS

[tawny kelp]

shit

cpu?

and ram?

[proud trellis]

an intel i5-9400f with 8gb ram

[digital elbow]

too low ram

[proud trellis]

btw you will need to change your pfp ash

[proud trellis]

it runs fine and plus im getting 16GB for xmas

[tawny kelp]

shit

[digital elbow]

ok noice

[tawny kelp]

I have a ryzen 5 2600

[glossy plinth]

damn a ryzen 5 2600

[tawny kelp]

idk why i cant get ur performance

[proud trellis]

!!r7

[silent oasis]

Rule 7: Your username, status, & avatar must be appropriate and follow these guidelines. No: blank names, offensive content, advertising, disruptive text, political figures/dictators.

[glossy plinth]

you have the strongest cpu in this server

[proud trellis]

do you have FFR enabled

[tawny kelp]

yep

[proud trellis]

the fuck

what fps do u get

[glossy plinth]

[tawny kelp]

idk dont have averages but in heavy situations with lots of people ie breakthrough is like 45-55 fps

normally running around with a few people i get like 60-70

[glossy plinth]

how much ram u got

[proud trellis]

you play what settings

....

[tawny kelp]

ok im back

16 gb ram at like 2400

@proud trellis normally like high

[proud trellis]

2400mhz ?

[tawny kelp]

yup

[proud trellis]

hmmm

that might be why i think

[tawny kelp]

i dont get it

really?

[proud trellis]

@glossy plinth do u think thats his problem

[glossy plinth]

prob

[tawny kelp]

should i OC my ram you think?

[glossy plinth]

didnt someone here say that

ram has a huge impact on bf

[tawny kelp]

makes sense

big game using lots of resources

@proud trellis whats ur ram speed

[proud trellis]

2666

my mobo can only go to 2666

[tawny kelp]

@proud trellis I just oc'd my ram a fuckton

[proud trellis]

to what

[glossy plinth]

3600

[proud trellis]

fuckin hell

[glossy plinth]

I wanna overclock my ram

but i still have to talk to nyphon

[proud trellis]

i dont think i can

my mobo only supports 2666Mhz

[storm osprey]

ive only OC my gpu

heres an interesting tidbit, ram manufacturers dont make different spec ram they just make 1 kind of ram and the speed/timings are basically just binned

[proud trellis]

rah

[tawny kelp]

my mobo supports up to 3200

so thats what i did

[glossy plinth]

[tawny kelp]

@glossy plinth @proud trellis 90fps ultra now ty guys

[proud trellis]

ayyy nice

[glossy plinth]

@tawny kelp poogies

[tawny kelp]

really?

[storm osprey]

Per a serious YouTuber whose name I’m blanking on.

[hardy storm]

Is it OddJob001? Is that the YTer? I have 12 subscribers.

[glossy plinth]

i think it's LTT

[proud trellis]

its techsource

[storm osprey]

its tech deals, but i cant find that youtube video now

@tawny kelp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TINzMQtPc&feature=youtu.be&t=92&ab_channel=ByteSizeTech

[glossy plinth]

man this aint ltt

[tawny kelp]

thank you

[storm osprey]

i tried googling to see if its true but couldnt find anything

[supple bane]

Does anyone here own DT 990s?

[molten coral]

me

I've the 600 ohm version

@supple bane

[supple bane]

thoughts ? @molten coral

im going to get the 250ohm if any, and wont be using an audio interface, just the rear 3.5mm on the mobo

is that a bad choice? can the mobo feed them to their true potential?

[molten coral]

It would be a bad choice as your mobo won't be strong enough to get proper volume out of it.

[supple bane]

is there any other downside other than volume ?

like provided in terms of sound quality they are the same, im fine

and of course the max volume is reasonable

[molten coral]

I mean you could always try it and if it isn't working as you want it sent it back

[supple bane]

theres no risk of damaging something right ? if they are pulling too much power

[molten coral]

Not sure if the quality would be worse but volume will be definitely lower as the mobo won't be really able to drive it.

Nah

The headphones will only get as much your mobo supports

Not sure if i'm saying that right as i'm still kinda a noob with headphones/amps/dacs etc.

@storm osprey 👀

[storm osprey]

audiophiles will say you miss out on volume and sound quality

im sure you are missing on some sound quality, but how much is probably not that much

but to an audiophile, its always "night and day"

[supple bane]

well what would be a good set of headphones that would reach full potential on a motherboard ?

[storm osprey]

budget and use case?

[supple bane]

100 pounds max. NEED to be overear with lots of clearance around the earcups. no microphone preferably

for gaming and music

[storm osprey]

how much are dt880 there?

[supple bane]

although im not a music nerd like you lol. i just need to jam to some tunes

they are more expensive than 990

[storm osprey]

hmmm

of the dt line most pref the 880 since they arent as bright as the 770/990

audio prices from us to eu is pretty dramatic in certain cases so its hard for me to say

im pretty sure you guys get sennheisers pretty damn cheap compared to us

[supple bane]

im seeing mixed opinions on forums about if a motherboard rear io can power 250ohm headphones

its the realtek alc892 if that helps at all

[storm osprey]

ive ran my 250ohm sennheiser 6xx off a laptop

i got decent volume out of them and they sounded fine, but plugging them into my dac/amp, yea you can tell a difference

how much is sennheiser hd 598/599 there?

[supple bane]

598's arent sold here by the looks of things, 599 is 120 pounds

160 dollars

[storm osprey]

599 might be a good option for your price

pretty sure they are 60ohm

[supple bane]

only problem with these, they look wank

ik its not something you should consider with headphones but holy shit

[storm osprey]

they are headphones

is it the color you dont like?

[supple bane]

90's called, they want their headphones back

[storm osprey]

lol ill show you 90's library headphones

[supple bane]

its the shape, the colour and that incredibly tacky chrome metal shite

[storm osprey]

how much is creative aurvana live?

[supple bane]

not sold here

[storm osprey]

lol wtf

give me your amazon link

or better yet

[supple bane]

the live 2's are available

[storm osprey]

ffs forgot google links are shunned

[supple bane]

after looking at that it seems the 880s are better than the 990s?

[storm osprey]

yep, thats what i said

"of the dt line most pref the 880 since they arent as bright as the 770/990"

most people find bright headphones too harsh

[glossy plinth]

times are rough now man, buy the 2080, better than 1080

[storm osprey]

that message is from 2018, what are you reading that for xD

[supple bane]

might i add i have hyper x cloud stingers, so im pretty sure any of the above options will be a nice upgrade

[storm osprey]

i havent heard the stinger so i cant personally say

[glossy plinth]

mr orange cat when i get the 3070

i dont have the box for the 5700xt

[storm osprey]

but hyper x cloud 2s were decent for gaming headphones

[glossy plinth]

so imma just put it in a another random box

[storm osprey]

every other gaming headphones ive heard borderline sucks though

its all bass for "wow" factor

[supple bane]

these arent even that bassy

[storm osprey]

ehhh.. once you hear neutral they probably will be

my 6xx have slightly elevated bass, and listening to most any other headphones they sound bassy

and for try hard gaming the less bass the better

[supple bane]

well going back to the original question, after seeing reviews i deem the audio quality of the DT 990s to be fine. would onboard audio be good enough for them

[storm osprey]

i just warn that i know quiet a few people that thought they were too sibilant

[supple bane]

idefk what that means man

[storm osprey]

so theres bass, mids, and highs

bass is obvious, mids are sounds like vocals, and highs are things like cymbals

when something is bright or sibilant that means the high frequency range is elevated and "bright"

so if a song has a bunch of bright aspects to them it can come off as piercing and headache inducing

im a person that cant handle elevated bass or elevated highs, ill get a headache after 30 minutes

[supple bane]

im really not an audiophile. but as i see it there are plenty of amazing reviews on yt and on the sellers website etc. so all i need to know is "will dey work"

[storm osprey]

yes they will work

even if you get 600ohm headphones, they will work off motherboard audio

will you get the volume and full experience of the headphones if theres that big of a gap? probably not

[supple bane]

man why is the world of audio so fucking complicated lmao

[storm osprey]

because audio is complicated

ignorance is bliss in the audio world though

[supple bane]

meh, i guess if they are no good on motherboard audio return is always an option

[storm osprey]

isnt there a 60ohm option?

[supple bane]

idk, you tell me lol

[storm osprey]

i see an 80ohm option

[supple bane]

would the 80 ohms be that much worse than 250?

like will they sound worse?>

[dry hull]

179$

dude

[storm osprey]

again, depends who you ask and ignorance is bliss

i can guarantee you MOST people could A/B the 2 side by side with all other variables and not be able to tell a difference

but most people wouldnt even know where to begin to try to listen for a difference

[supple bane]

i cant seem to find the 80 ohm option anywhere

[storm osprey]

must not be available for you

[supple bane]

well, if i get the 250 ohms im left with an upgrade path of being able to get an AMP

[storm osprey]

yep

[molten coral]

If you go that route just get a shiit stack

[storm osprey]

theres other good options too

[molten coral]

I mean for the price it's great

[storm osprey]

yea theres been a lot of competition lately for the same price

just off the top of my head the atom stack and topping stack are better for the same price

[proud trellis]

anyone know why discord doesn’t open after I just closed it on pc ?

it always does it and idk why

[storm osprey]

huh?

like you press X on discord, then try to open it again and it wont open?

[proud trellis]

yeah

so I shut down discord fully by clicking x top right and now when I go to open it via home screen it doesn’t open

[molten coral]

Discord also does that for me

Well the stable version atleast

[proud trellis]

I have to full on restart my whole computer to make it re open

it opened

[storm osprey]

you should just have to force close in task manager

[proud trellis]

i opened task manager doesnt even say its open

i opened it by clicking a notification that popped up on my screen

[storm osprey]

not even in background processes?

[proud trellis]

actually im not sure

next time it does it i will check

[supple bane]

@storm osprey i just realised, i have a sound bar with an audio interface on it, its 3.5mm but i noticed that when plugged in my headphones could at least double maybe triple in volume

it plugs into motherboard with 3.5mm but also has a usb power cord, so i believe it might be an amp

a shit one, but an amp non the less

could it be posssible that would provide a better experience than a the motherboard ?

or would the cheap interface reduce quality compared to direct into the motherboard

[storm osprey]

thats an extremely loaded question..

im sure theres an amp in there, if its good or not i have no idea

the main concern at that point would be audio interference

[supple bane]

what about it ?

[storm osprey]

the further a signal has to travel the more chances of audio interfence

[supple bane]

oh interference

[storm osprey]

as well as what is around it

[supple bane]

i read it as interface

[storm osprey]

oh

i mean, i would personally try it and see what you think

again, ignorance is bliss, and if youre happy with your sound, dont try to find reasons to spend money to see if its better or make it better by a little bit

[supple bane]

with these headphones, the sound quality seems to be the same, but i can go MUCH louder

yeah, i dont know what im looking for in terms of quality, the main thing im looking for is nice mix of the obvious stuff like bass and comfort

[storm osprey]

well if you want elevated bass and comfort for gaming/music and dont mind some bright headphones, dt990 are good for that

and maybe their sibilance isnt a problem for you, i just know they are for me

[supple bane]

as is, my speaker quality is much better than headphone quality, and i dont like that lol

with a 30 pound sound bar and a decentish sub

the sub my brother gave me, i believe its a pretty good one

[storm osprey]

ahh, ehh well dt990s for 100ish seem decent

[urban thicket]

massdrop 6xx

cant go worng with the BD 990's tho, great cans

[storm osprey]

6xx is msrp 220 usd. Likely much more for eu people. Hd650 would likely be cheaper. Plus their budget is 100.

And IMO 6xx are not good gaming headphones.

[urban thicket]

youre correct about not being good, theyre phenominal , but you need an external mic

didnt know he was EU but should be roughly the same price

[storm osprey]

ehhhh, in the realm of gaming headphones id say they are really only good for imagine

the personal soundstage basically gives no room for any depth to sound, it also sounds very much like a stereo headphone since theres hardly any blend between left and right, its fairly distinct

i also had the problem with telling if directly forward or directly behind me sounds were from front or back

[glossy plinth]

audiophiles

i always expect to see hundreds of headphones and speakers in their area

[storm osprey]

i have 2

one for gaming, one for music

well actually 4... 1 gaming, 1 music, a for travel, and 1 for working out

[naive summit]

@storm osprey update: I built my PC. Im really satisfied, no issues during and after the build

[storm osprey]

Yes hello. I completely remember.

[naive summit]

might get a 3060 later

[storm osprey]

What are specs?

[fallen harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/759192495782625292/783835626017128458/redditsave.com-but_its_fast-eumlurcvet261.mp4

[mild siren]

Lmao

[modern gull]

Hey guys. Any of you guys know why rtx 3080 is out of stock? been trying to find one everywhere, but sold out. "Europe"

[opaque saddle]

Everyone wants to get the 3000 series GPU. When the demands is much higher than supplies, this is why the gpu is sold out everywhere in the world

[proud trellis]

may aswel wait a few years before they will be back in stock

[modern gull]

It cant really be this bad? Maybe they made less cards this time or something

[opaque saddle]

well there are lots of things going on around the world as we all know.
As far as i know there are limited supplies for each retailers. wait for a couple of months, like Feb 2021? when some people (who are willing to pay premium) have bought the cards, then it will be more likely be available for other people

so as we all know what is happening around the world.

1. Limited supply for card manufacturers
2. Delayed shipments
3. Limited amount of cards that goes on sale

meaning less cards will available for consumers to purchase. In fact it always happening after the new cards are out on the market (see 1000 series of nvidia cards). Often needs to wait for a couple of months to get it if you wanted to buy one of those. Especially for the 3000 series of cards are looking pretty good for the consumers, its gonna have a huge competitions between potential consumers

[modern gull]

Ah ya i can see that.

[arctic moss]

anyone have ps5 or series x that can give a comparison as to how much better the "remastered" or whatver they call it game looks/runs

getting my new console soon and am hyped but think my expectations might be way too high

[glossy plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPmVScTleVM @arctic moss

[drowsy dome]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1238810/discussions/0/2972902451425101084/
anyone can help me solve this problem / bf5

[storm osprey]

join stock drops, its your only chance outside of botting

[modern gull]

I decided just to preorder one see what happends, probably wont come until next year jan/feb. Company i bought from has several active orders and incoming cards.

[storm osprey]

interesting, i only know of EVGA doing a sort of pre order system

i had a 1080

[glossy plinth]

what is this

48% boost?

[storm osprey]

thats fps

48 to 118 is at least a 200% boost

[modern gull]

Imagine, i have 1070 now and just bought 3080 waiting for that. Wonder that boost lol, and i still play 1080p 60 fps.

[storm osprey]

WHAT

you dont need a 3080 for 1080 60hz

[modern gull]

haha i know

[glossy plinth]

@storm osprey mr orange cat

would the fps difference be huge from a 5700xt to a 3070

[modern gull]

it will be for vr, and kind of future proof thing

[meager fern]

for vr you primarily want a lot of ram

[modern gull]

nah alot of gpu for vr

[storm osprey]

id think the 3070 has at least a 30% increase over 5700xt

though imo the 3060ti is a more compelling product for 400

[glossy plinth]

30%?

[modern gull]

i was considering the 3070 but since i am already buying why not, keep gpu longer

[glossy plinth]

i like big numbers

i like that big difference

[coarse nimbus]

Why 3060 when... Uhh 6600 will be a thing right?

[storm osprey]

i only go off of what is out now

[glossy plinth]

hey man

dont buy an amd card

trust me bro

[coarse nimbus]

Ngl that makes me want to buy one

[storm osprey]

pretty sure 3060ti is 90% of the perf of a 3070, but 100 bucks cheaper

[modern gull]

i read something about the new cards have like blue screen issues and stuff if i am right?

[glossy plinth]

bro from my experience from an amd card

dont buy 1

[storm osprey]

ive not heard that from either brand

[glossy plinth]

nvidia is better

[coarse nimbus]

In what 1080 or 1440 perf

[glossy plinth]

all

[storm osprey]

1440p

[coarse nimbus]

_i need 1440+1080 side screen performance now damnit

[glossy plinth]

i need to buy another keyboard so i can try out washing it in the dishwasher

[modern gull]

lol

you can still doo it without needing to buy a new one, just make sure there is no electicity in the keyboard before you put it in and let it dry completly before you use it again or rip keyboard

also i wouldnt advice chemicals, maybe just clean water

[glossy plinth]

i still have to rewatch that LTT video so i can clean my keyboard using a dishwasher perfectly

[modern gull]

haha havent seen it

interesting i will watch this video now

[glossy plinth]

want the link?

[storm osprey]

i mean, he said to wait a week, and that just isnt reasonable imo

[modern gull]

maybe the head could kill the keyboard tho idk, ill watch it. nah i found it

thanks tho

[glossy plinth]

well he did say

its the best way

[modern gull]

lol

[glossy plinth]

and we all know that ltt is the king of tech

[storm osprey]

it will kill the most bacteria, but he said it also left a bunch of stuff behind

[glossy plinth]

and killing most bacteria is very good

and clean/healthy

[modern gull]

what about if temps too high tho, wont it bend or melt the plastic?

[glossy plinth]

depends what kinda brand you got

[modern gull]

ya i suppose

[glossy plinth]

thats why corsair is king

[modern gull]

AH exactly like i said no chemicals

atleast i dont have to try this shit myself lol

[glossy plinth]

[modern gull]

https://cdn.neow.in/news/images/uploaded/2017/09/1504568123_dsc03114.jpg

[glossy plinth]

[modern gull]

i would just use air compresor anyways

[glossy plinth]

why does that keyboard

look so small

[modern gull]

you think its small?

[glossy plinth]

from my perspective it kinda does

[modern gull]

ah ya i can see

it is actually decently sized

in my opinion atleast

idk if this gives more a correct perspective https://media.steelseriescdn.com/thumbs/filer_public/10/7e/107e2b66-3c70-45e2-9d75-72084e240492/m750_photo_product_004.jpg.850x700_q85_crop-scale_optimize.jpg

[glossy plinth]

the mouse needs an underglow

mouse needs a bit more rgb

[modern gull]

lol

f rgb lol

[glossy plinth]

nyphons alt?

[modern gull]

i just have static color, all this rgb stuff is to much for me lol

[storm osprey]

finally a man of culture

[modern gull]

Water. I just watched the video lol. I must say verry interesting.

actually got cleaned pretty well. i would be to afraid to do that to mine, and i only have 1 so not waiting several days for it to dry up

[glossy plinth]

[glossy plinth]

@storm osprey mr orange cat

is it true that having more fps than your monitor hz is more better and smoother

[storm osprey]

for comp gaming the most fps you can get the best

allows your monitor to grab the latest information no matter what

[supple bane]

It's not smoother but its better

Like nyphon said it means it will be showing the most up to date information as possible

[hardy storm]

What do you know about comp gaming? Oh that's right, you're on my scrim roster. 😆

[storm osprey]

🍻

[glossy plinth]

ty

[modern gull]

@glossy plinth The higher frame rate, you get less inputlag. Thats why people who play competetive have unlocked framerate. You also get less input lag if you have vsync of and limit to example 60 fps compared to vsync on at same frame rate.

I dont think the game would show you more information than the server tickrate anyways to be honest. I might be wrong but if server has tickrate of example 60hz you probably wouldnt see info faster than 60fps anyways.

[supple bane]

No you do, but its incredibly hard to explain without diagrams,

For example lets say an enemy is quick peeking from around a corner, the first frame renders and they aren't in it, but then they quickly peek and go back to hiding somehow in the few ms it takes for the next frame to render, but by the time it does they are already gone

But if you have a higher frame rate this overlap will be mitigated as the monitor displays the most up to date information

That example wouldnt work in the real world, but it explains the premise

[prime jasper]

the best demonstration is playing on a high ping server, its a similar effect, eg: you pop up for a look and then duck behind cover, on your PC you already are back in cover but still get head shotted

[modern gull]

Ah i see

[modern gull]

Wouldn't tickrate be an variable to this happening?

[modern gull]

Btw 60 fps is around 16ms frametime, you cant posibly mean someone can peak in that short time?

[supple bane]

No like I said, that example doesnt work

But it demonstrates the premise

[modern gull]

Ah i see. Interesting

[supple bane]

It's mainly when people are running and changing directions, a higher frame rate means you get the most up to date location on where they are moving

It wont appear smoother, but it will be slightly more accurate

[modern gull]

yes but how could you get newer info than the actuall server tickrate tho?

[supple bane]

I guess because tickrate works differently

[modern gull]

but 60 hz tickrate is 60 updates per second?

[supple bane]

Because a server will always relay the last peice of information it gets

For example, if someone runs forward and then disconnects their internet, all the other players will see them running forwards infinitely in a straight line

[modern gull]

ya

[supple bane]

Or if they are shooting and then loose connection the server will continue to show them shooting infinitely until they are terminated

So even if the tick rate is 60hz, you still need the most up to date info on your end

[modern gull]

My point is when the server only gives you 60 updates per seccond how could you see more network info if you have higher than 60 fps then?

I see what you are saying

[supple bane]

Man I cant explain it

[modern gull]

its fine maybe i am dumb haha

[supple bane]

I understand why, but it's impossible to put into words

[modern gull]

Ah i see

btw there is not allowed to use emjoi here?

[supple bane]

No

[modern gull]

no it gets removed

mine

[supple bane]

You probably not allowed to use one from another server

[modern gull]

ah i see this one works

I guess anti troll etc...

[supple bane]

It would be because you can have offensive words and such on emojis

[modern gull]

ya exactly

EA/DICE better at moderating against trolls or the smallest things on forums etc... but ingame no anti cheat lol

My point is i feel BF1/5 have no anticheat at all. I tought their anti cheat was server side only which i think is a joke how poor anti cheat solution you would put in a game today. But someone told me it was an actual client side anti cheat. But in the end dont matter what they say it is, it dont work especialy on BF1 that is.

[quiet gazelle]

Hello guys, does anyone have a Battlefield 1 appmanifest file? Can anyone send me Dm

[radiant plover]

Uhh why?

[hardy storm]

Like from the settings folder?

[glossy plinth]

ik how system requirements are sometimes in accurate

but damn i doubt how my 5700xt is reccomended for 1440p ultra on cyberpunk

[supple bane]

5700xt is still a solid card

[glossy plinth]

from my experience

nah

[proud trellis]

lol

[storm osprey]

you have a faulty card if its not a driver issue

[glossy plinth]

that could also be true

[fallen harbor]

asdf

[prime jasper]

Is it true that crossbow is not a gun?

[molten coral]

Yes

Why should it be? It isn't shooting projectiles that need combustion

[prime jasper]

Oh ok thanks for the confirmation,thanks for the information

Do people consider these as guns?:
-Firearms
-Grenade launcher,rocket launcher and mortar
-Railgun and coilgun
-Directed energy weapons

[fallen harbor]

afaik anything that uses combustion is a gun

however in many countries the crossbow is considered a weapon you need a register in order to be able to carry it around

[prime jasper]

Ah ok thanks for the informations

[tacit basalt]

yes

correct

i am very knowledgeable on Guns/cannons

[frozen root]

my bf3 tab menu wont stop spamming and im crouching uncontolably

[quaint topaz]

Free with the pixel 5 pre order, nice

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-5900hx-cezanne-cpu-geekbench-score-leaks

5900HX first overclockable Ryzen in laptops

[turbid verge]

that sounds very bad and good at the same time

[fallow raft]

[prime jasper]

[fallow raft]

[cyan badge]

what's a good cpu combo for an rx560?

[supple bane]

Ryzen 3 3300x

Or 1600 af

[pulsar sentinel]

Kinda unrelated but are there still anyone on Battlelog who approves or rejects Battlelog API access requests?

Considering it's dead years ago.

[molten bramble]

No.

Several years ago another site that used to interface had to shutdown because the access dissolved.

[storm osprey]

day 7 of not getting my cpu from 5 hours away

[proud trellis]

rave

[storm osprey]

an "unexpected delay" happened for 4 days, then i was told it would ship in 24 hours and deliver in 48 hours, which was saturday, come saturday no package, i ask whats going on they said to wait till tuesday before filling a refurn or replacement.

[latent light]

Aaaannd Apple is already scaling up their new M1 CPU, 32 cores on the way, massive iGPU too

[storm osprey]

this image for a motherboard xD

[latent light]

The current Apple M1 CPU has 16 cores, next gen will have 32 cores. As for the graphics, the current iGPU has 8 cores and outperforms the GTX 1050Ti, next gen will have a hefty 128 cores for its iGPU

So 15x the amount of graphics cores as current M1 CPU

That's crazy

[olive trellis]

Shame they took out windows support though

speaking as a macbook gamer myself, all this power is great, but if it doesn't work with windows or most games it doesn't speak about gaming performance

And the GTX 1050 ti is fairly old at this point

[rapid marsh]

I’m looking to get a rtx 3060ti I have a cooler master 500 watt white. Atm the pc has a r5 2600, rx570 ,32gb ram, 1tb ssd ik the psu does not reach the minimum but could it work. (Not planning on over clocking)

[safe quail]

you should get a better power supply

[latent light]

500W should work tbh

[molten coral]

Needs a 1500W PSU ||Joke, 500-600 should work||

[proud trellis]

that would be waters answer

NEEDS A 1500W CORSAIR PSU

[storm osprey]

2600, random mid tier cooler (idk why that price), 3060ti, 32gb of ram and 2 storage is 400w

[proud trellis]

must be a great quality cooler LOL

[storm osprey]

its good bang for buck, but its normally 60 or under

[strong breach]

meanwhile the estimate for my monitor to arrive went from 10.12 - 18.12

to 18.12 - 29.12

[storm osprey]

amazon dropping the ball lately

[coarse nimbus]

what arrives first...the screen or the gpu

[strong breach]

taking bets

[serene path]

How much RAM and what CPU should I get to run the newer battlefield titles, like BFV?

[storm osprey]

16gb of ram is the standard, cpu depends on a ton of factors

but at minimum a 4c8t cpu, ideally a 6c6t or 6c12t cpu would be recommedned

[lofty light]

I found out the other day the reason there's no windows support is Microsoft won't allow licenses for windows on ARM to be sold outside its surface laptops

[opaque saddle]

I saw a video of Max Tech running a software that allows to translate X86 app to work on Mac. The gaming result isn’t impressive for older titles (the older the games, the worse the performance will be).

Speaking of gaming results:
LOL a an run at 2560x1600 at highest settings and gets solid 60fps (i believed it was under Rosetta 2)
Witcher 3 at a playable frame rate at naive res
CSGO gets 20fps at native res
TF2 gets 60fps while not moving, drops down to 7-12 during gameplay

[opaque saddle]

I think the reason is actually Microsoft requires THOSE machines to have those approved by Microsoft with “windows on arm” preinstalled on the machine. I guess this is how it works for Microsoft. It is more likely be impossible for Apple to ask for support from MS understand this requirement since macOS is preinstalled on the machine. And unless MS has drop the requirement, I don’t think MacBook will be eligible as long as the rules are still there,

In the meantime, people have figured it out the ways to run windows on arm installed on MacBook. The benchmark result is still faster than SD SQ2 (what Microsoft has on the device).

[lofty light]

Yeah I saw those, it's unlicensed or cracked but it's working

[opaque saddle]

Indeed, that’s why I said have found a way

[chrome skiff]

Got my 6900xt this morning at micro center and they also had an in store deal of the 10850k for 315 bucks and a free 120m cooler master water cooler with purchase

[hardy storm]

@scarlet saffron Did you first try verifying the game in settings?

[scarlet saffron]

Now it says files are corrupted

how do i verify

?

REpair?

in the origin/
?

[hardy storm]

yep

[scarlet saffron]

Thanks!

[hardy storm]

gluck

[twin cobalt]

VoIP is broken after the latest DL... new feature again? 🙂

[hardy storm]

PC?

[twin cobalt]

Yes

[hardy storm]

Thats been an issue since launch. Usually when you are changing your input/output, but it happens other ways as well. Only resolution Ive seen is to restart game and rejoin squad. Happens to me at least 1-2 times a week.

[twin cobalt]

We are atleast 10 now in the game that has the same problem. We have restarted tho.. so I guess were stuck with it

[hardy storm]

Certainly wouldnt rule out it being a new issue either 😉

[supple bane]

why are you using voip tho?

just use discord

[proud trellis]

i think its mainly used for the FIVE M for gta

[hardy storm]

Scrims as well.

Call outs go in the main channel, squad call outs go in game voip

[twin cobalt]

I usually use Disc. Most of the squad is there so. But sometimes VoIP is useful wne u have a non member on the squad

[storm osprey]

yea large scrims it makes sense to have 2 lines of communication

[storm osprey]

i think my cpu is ACTUALLY going to come in today

[glossy plinth]

@storm osprey feelsbadman

[proud trellis]

https://youtu.be/b9ALYCuqtho

[supple bane]

what cpu did you get again?

5600x right ?

[storm osprey]

10700kf

[supple bane]

ahh right, i remember now

[storm osprey]

for 290

[supple bane]

noice

[storm osprey]

yeaaa... kind of hard to pass on that when fps is the same at 1440p and i get 2 more cores

[supple bane]

i STILL havent had my psu back from the RMA i made

the rma i made on the 26th of october

[storm osprey]

jesus chris t

[supple bane]

i am never ordering from that company again

i liked them because they were a local, small business, only a 5 minute drive from me

a cosy shop with friendly staff that you could have a good chat with when you went in

but this is taking it too far at this point

box.co.uk ... step up your game.

[storm osprey]

im confused, why didnt you go into the shop to return?

[supple bane]

it was closed

cuz rona

i was told it was going back to the manufacturer on the 11th of november

so its 3 days away from taking the "maximum 4 weeks"

[storm osprey]

almost the 11th of december...

[supple bane]

i mean, despite not liking them atm. i want to get a weekend/summer job there once i turn 16

its better than working in a coffee shop or something, id actually get to do something i really enjoy and earn some money from it too

[storm osprey]

LOL

"fuck these guys, taking forever"
"can i have a job?"

[supple bane]

haha

yup

[coarse nimbus]

2 more cores.... but the IPCs bruh

[storm osprey]

in most games other than shit like CSGO or valorant theres hard an fps difference at 1440p

your talking 5 fps one way or another depending on the game

[coarse nimbus]

Smh sounds like you're trying to justify that 5 less fps

[hardy storm]

@storm osprey Would install a new OS with that much new hardware anyhow. Drivers and registry and all

[storm osprey]

yea, i was just hoping to get to windows yesterday to verify everything

[hardy storm]

Its always exciting, new builds.

[storm osprey]

yea, my last upgrade was 5 years ago

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/manli-submits-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3070-ti-rtx-3060-and-rtx-3050-to-eec

3080Ti, 3070Ti, 3060 and 3050 coming

[storm osprey]

i wonder what the 3070ti means

probably similar to 3080 performance with more vram? for 650?

ehhhh

oh, that site says its 10gb vram for 3070 ti

wack

[latent light]

Idk why there's a 3080Ti if the 3090 is only ~10% faster than the 3080

[storm osprey]

same reason theres a 6900xt

[latent light]

3080Ti won't be faster than the 3080

[storm osprey]

why wouldnt it? it has more cores

[latent light]

Can't be faster when the 3090 is barely faster than the 3080

I can see it being 5% faster at most

[storm osprey]

it can match a 3090 for 1k and make 6900xt looke more redundant

[supple bane]

they wouldnt do that

[storm osprey]

havent they basically been doing that with titans/80 ti

[supple bane]

they wouldnt make a 3090 performer for less

if you want the highest end card, nvidia will make you pay for it

[storm osprey]

xx80 ti vs titan (3090 now imo) has always been get basically the same performance for less

if we are trusting this source

[supple bane]

3050 looks like it will match a 2070

dang

[latent light]

3050 wont even match the 1660Ti what you going on about

[supple bane]

has the same amount of cores

?

less memory yes

[latent light]

They're not comparable

Nvidia doubled the amount of CUDA this generation so to compare core count to last gen you gotta half it

[supple bane]

wat, does the 3050 have 2304 cores or not?

or are they "measuring" cores differently now?

[latent light]

We don't know if that's the 3050

Could be a 3050Ti

[proud trellis]

wait there is a 3050 ?

[latent light]

Although the rumor I've heard is that the 3050Ti has only 7% less CUDA cores than the 3060

[supple bane]

from that one source, id say the 3050 will be about 5-10% behind a 2070

but if that source is correct, there is no way on earth it wont match a 1660ti

[latent light]

3050 could beat 1660Ti but definitely not any RTX 2000 GPU

[supple bane]

why not tho?

[latent light]

Not enough cores

[supple bane]

ok im lost

it litterally says there are 2304 cores on that source

which is the same core count as a 2070

[latent light]

1152 cores if you want to compare it to last gen

[supple bane]

why do you need to half it tho? thats what i dont get

are they using different methods to count the cores or something ?

[latent light]

Because Nvidia doubled CUDA cores this gen which doesn't translate to double performance by any means

[supple bane]

ik that

but if it has 2304 cores, it has 2304 cores...

[storm osprey]

why not just wait to see what happens

[supple bane]

its going to be slower than a 2070 as it has less memory, but it will probably have a higher clock speed which will make up some of that ground

[latent light]

3070 has 5888 cores, 2080Ti has 4352 cores and they both have roughly equal performance

[storm osprey]

🤷 gpus go brrrrrrrrr

half of 5888 is not 4352 though

[latent light]

Not what I mean...

[storm osprey]

isnt that what you suggested earlier?

[supple bane]

yeah i understand that cores arent everything,

[ember anvil]

why r there so many cats discussing about tech stuff

[latent light]

@storm osprey @supple bane Ampere shader is only about half as powerful as a Turing shader, hence why the doubling of CUDA cores on RTX 3000 series makes it hard to compare to 2000 series if you're just going by core count

Once you factor in Ampere IPC gain and 8nm node, the comparison is harder to make too

2304 core Ampere will not even perform close to 2304 core Turing

By rough guesstimate you'd need around 3500 CUDA cores on Ampere to match the 2304 cores of the RTX 2070

[random crane]

The computers in our engineering lab have nvidia nvs 315s in them

48 cuda cores lmao

[supple bane]

the igpu in the cpu would outperform that

provided the cpu is relatively modern

[latent light]

AMD is making more profit from RX 6000 series than any other generation

RX 6900XT shares same chip as 6800 and costs $420 more, you can assume that RX 6000 GPUs cost less than $300 to manufacture, so the 6900XT profit margin should be at least $700

They still don't profit as much as Nvidia does tho

[latent light]

https://financialpost.com/technology/tech-news/a-brief-power-outage-at-a-micron-memory-factory-could-increase-dram-prices-in-2021

Oh no

[abstract mist]

Guys

[proud trellis]

anyone know/think i will be able to run FARCRY 6 or will it be not able to be answered until the game comes out

[abstract mist]

Did the trailer of btf6 are available?

[storm osprey]

no

[abstract mist]

Okay

[storm osprey]

pc is put together and everything seems good

[strong breach]

how the heck did you get a 3080

[storm osprey]

I’ve had it for like 4 weeks now.

I went through Best Buy and stock drops discord

[strong breach]

wheuw

meanwhile im probably waiting all the way to February at this point

I've given up hope it'll arrive before 2021

:)

[molten bramble]

For the same price, could take a quick trip to China and grab one off the back of a truck.

[sinful mantle]

Just be content you'll have it on hand for bf6 release.

[weak girder]

I'm still rocking a 1050 ti and can't upgrade until a good chunk of time

[lofty light]

My brother just outright bought a 3070 from the local shop here easy

[stark quiver]

Wow

[modern gull]

How did you get it, did it take you long? market is empty atm man 😛

[chrome skiff]

yeah I think it depends on where you guys live. I have a micro center and a best buy near me killing it getting new parts in stock

[modern gull]

Oh ya i see. But i live in EU tho. Pre ordered it few weeks ago. and they updated their list. there is 62 ppl that havent gotten a single card since launch, and there is like just 24 on its way rip

[chrome skiff]

well 24 less ahead of you now. I know just saying be patient doesn't help but it will happen in time and it will be worth it

[modern gull]

Gigabyte RTX 3080 EAGLE OC 92 17.09.2020 - 62 customer orders not delivered from launch 39. i cant take photo so this only thing i can do.

it was actually 39 now

92 orders by costumer.

Ah ya, i dont mind waiting a bit. but imagine if not getting one until like summer next year.

[weak girder]

https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00278590.html

getting this for christmas

[modern gull]

nice

why not bigger tho?

i was considering this actually for my next screen https://www.asus.com/Displays-Desktops/Monitors/All-series/VZ279HEG1R/

[weak girder]

my gpu cant pump out more than 1080p

[modern gull]

its much better than my current screen, but i mainly want the crosshair since its just a red dot and not huge

[weak girder]

and if I go too big it'll look like shit

[modern gull]

oh rip

[weak girder]

1080p's good ;-;

[modern gull]

27 inch on 1080p wouldnt look that bad would it?

[weak girder]

ehhhh

[modern gull]

ya i am still 1080p 60hz lol

[weak girder]

lol

plus I don't have the space on my desk

[modern gull]

i know for a fact if i bought 144hz screen i would need to play all games in 144 lol

[chrome skiff]

no native 1080p at 27 inch doesn't look bad it will be fine

[modern gull]

exactly what i was thinking

[weak girder]

I don't have the space on my desk

[modern gull]

oh i see

i might not either actually. but i'll make space

[chrome skiff]

so get a bigger desk? lol

[weak girder]

ngl that would be a pain in the ass

[modern gull]

i mainly have speakers that take space on my desk, but those could be re aranged ez

and ya buying new desk would kind of be a hassle

[weak girder]

I have 1 1440p 21 inch monitor (got it from my brother) and this would come as a nice supplement

[modern gull]

ah i see

[chrome skiff]

I was just teasing about the new desk, but maybe look into monitor stands and speaker stands. I have 2 shelf with foam on them wall mounted so I can keep my speakers off my desk

[modern gull]

nice

[weak girder]

uhm sure...

that would be a good idea to make a spoteless pratical setup

the only thing good about my desk is my cable management

I got books all over the place

and lost pens

[chrome skiff]

my cable managment never looks as good as I'd hope, I have to leave slack in my wires so unless I figure it a pulley system i don't think I can ever fix it correctly

[weak girder]

Im really picky when it comes to cables... I pass my cables under my desk and into a camouflaged hole

[chrome skiff]

yeah I have cable grommets and I have very little wires on my desk but underneath is kinda sketchy keeping it all organized

[weak girder]

honestly, the best cable magament I saw was on the verge

SpOtEleSs

[chrome skiff]

I might look into some videos for suggestions my desk is a sit and stand desk so one position doesn't work with no lack so right now I found a balance but still doesn't look right

[weak girder]

I have the same desk since I'm 8

its wood

and that is all

and has shitty engravings in it because of 10 year old me

[chrome skiff]

my gf has my old desk from like being a kid and we sanded it laid some resin in the dents and scratches and then stained it. didn't turn out too bad

[weak girder]

yeah, too cover this up I just put one of those gigantic mousepads, I don't know their name

[chrome skiff]

hey if it works thats all that matters

[stark quiver]

Why should we need a desk could we just plug the pc into our tv

[chrome skiff]

that doesn't fit everyone's agenda my tv unfortunately doesn't do 144hz or gsync

[stark quiver]

is hz how fast it runs?

Idk much about PCs

[chrome skiff]

its how many times an image gets updated in 1 seconds. so you have 60 updates a second on standard 60hz tvs or you have 144 updates a second which in turn feels better for gaming for most people

[stark quiver]

Oh okay so that means it’s still possible though?

[chrome skiff]

what is? your pc will work on a TV normally no issues it should be fine

[stark quiver]

Oh okay thanks how much does a Monitor cost though?

[chrome skiff]

thats kind of a rabbit hole there are many different monitors for many different reasons. a cheap 1080p 144hz can be found for under 200 usd or just at 200usd

[stark quiver]

Okay that saves me 200$

[weak girder]

g sync or freesync prevent screen tearing because of incosnistent framerates

I think

[stark quiver]

What’s tearing

[weak girder]

the higher the price, the better the colours and build quality

[weak girder]

basically the monitor doesn't update the image as a whole, so when your framerate goes from 59 to 52 fps for example, since the image is not update as a whole there are delays between different parts of the screen and your image splits in a way

[chrome skiff]

thats what i meant by rabbit hole and i dont even know if their pc can do 100+ fps and even benefit from 144hz

[weak girder]

at least thats how I understand it

[stark quiver]

Oh okay

[weak girder]

its complicated

[stark quiver]

I’m wanting to buy a pc

[weak girder]

welcome to the hell hole

[stark quiver]

Thank you for welcoming me

[chrome skiff]

you can always spend this time before you make any purchases to do research and learn about pc parts and set some expectations with yourself

[weak girder]

no but seriously if you know nothin about pc's ur gonna get a hell of a bad time

do a lot of research

if you live in a city, you can choose your parts and get someone to build your pc for you and download windows

however you need research so you don't get scammed

and know what componants are best

[stark quiver]

I live on south of the USA so I’ll have to build it myself

[weak girder]

what's your budget?

[stark quiver]

100$

[weak girder]

for the pc?

or the entire setup?

[stark quiver]

Yes

The pc

[weak girder]

for that prics you cannot get a gpu

or a very good cpu for that matter

have you considered the used market?

[stark quiver]

gpu?

[weak girder]

because you can get a ok used pc for 100$

[weak girder]

graphics card

[stark quiver]

Oh

[weak girder]

however I'd be skepticall of the used market

[stark quiver]

I just want something that runs 720p and 30fps

[weak girder]

which games?

this varies a lot

[stark quiver]

Battlefield

[weak girder]

for 100$ you couldn't get a pc that would actually run battlefield

I'm sorry

[stark quiver]

Oh also can I bring my Xbox stuff to pc?

[weak girder]

no, I don't think so

[stark quiver]

Oh

[weak girder]

you mean your games right?

[stark quiver]

Yes and my items and stuff and my profile

[weak girder]

I'd have to double check that since microsoft own xbox and windows

actually no

you can't

[stark quiver]

So 9 or so years of stuff would be lost

[weak girder]

games on xbox on pc run very differently

[weak girder]

I'd keep your console if I were

you

[stark quiver]

Okay

[chrome skiff]

Yeah id look into the new consoles or something and just do more research on pc and why you would want to move to it

[weak girder]

to get a ok gaming experience you need MINIMUM and that is a stretch a 350$ pc and that would be considering 720p

[stark quiver]

Well I wouldn’t if I’ll lose my stuff

[weak girder]

to get the best price to performance experience you need a 500$ pc

[weak girder]

well there are more possibilities with a pc

the jump is worth it if your pc can put out more frames than your console

[stark quiver]

I knew the average for PCs was 500$ but I thought that was like 1440p and 60fps

[weak girder]

no

that would depend on graphics though

[stark quiver]

oof I would rather get a car then

[weak girder]

for example a classic 500$ pc build:

1650 super
ryzen 3 3100
8-16gb ram

could get 60 fps on ultra 1080p in bf5

than a 600$ pc could do 1440p ultra

but for visual quality to performance 1080p is the way to go

its still beautiful with more fps

1440p gives you a crisp high-res detailed experience

[stark quiver]

I just want to tell the difference of enemies and friends form a bush

[weak girder]

the problem is that with gpu's, since their price change so little you either get a good price to performance gpu or no gpu at all

there are no really extreme budget options

best way to go is a ryzen 3 2200g on extreme budget

since this cpu already has a gpu integrated in it

and that could do 720p 60 fps

with 8 gb ram

[stark quiver]

Okay

[weak girder]

and this is the minimum id go

[stark quiver]

PCs are more of a hellhole then consoles

[weak girder]

well once you know about pc's and do some research, its gonna be more familiar

the advantage of a pc is that you can do other stuff than game while getting better graphocs and a smoother experience AND better controles than consoles

[stark quiver]

I like the controls part but there’s so many buttons

[weak girder]

kitty do you already have a pc?

or laptop

[stark quiver]

No but my granny has a windows 7 pc and my nanny has a laptop

[weak girder]

windows 7 is quite outdated now

I don't know if she can but she should upgrade to windows 10

I'd suggest for you to keep your money and try to win some more, in the mean time, learn about pc's and really start to learn the different budget options and what each componant does.

Once you have have enough knowledge it can be your decision

[stark quiver]

Okay also see uses it for Facebook and searching stuff

[weak girder]

but you really should get a pc of your own, you're going to need one to work

and do research without needing to borrow it

[stark quiver]

I know I use my phone though

[weak girder]

it's not very practical

[stark quiver]

I guess your right it is a iPhone6

[weak girder]

I don't if you're still in school or your age, but if you're young you're gonna do a lot of stuff on computers

[stark quiver]

I’m 13

[weak girder]

I'd suggest for you to get a pc even if it were an iphone 11

[stark quiver]

You mean 12

[weak girder]

yeah ig lol

learning how to use computers is gonna be essential in the near future

it already kinda is

and plus you can get privacy with your own computer

[stark quiver]

I know my parents don’t believe so and I get there point because it’s getting harder to find people to build houses and do plumbing and that stuff

[stark quiver]

My parents don’t even look on my phone

[weak girder]

no but for example, if you wanna work for school on a excel sheet or google drive or do a basic presentation, you can't do that on a phone

and tech is now a big part pf our lives

[stark quiver]

Yeah your right but because of covid I’ve been home schooled for now

[weak girder]

another reason to get a computer

with online schools and online assignements its practically impossible to do that on your phone

maybe show my messages to your parents but I don't think they would take the word a random discord stranger

[stark quiver]

Well anytime they hear me speaking to strangers on Xbox they get mad at me because they cuss but like my parents do it too

So me showing them this probably wouldn’t give me a pc like there’s bills to pay and mouths to feed and I have brothers

[weak girder]

I'm sorry about that

[stark quiver]

I saw that

[weak girder]

if I could summarize everything: maybe wait to get a cheap pc (150$) and in the mean time do some research about them to help convince your parents

[stark quiver]

Okay

[weak girder]

and don't get it for gaming but just to make your life easier overall

[stark quiver]

Well idk what I would use it for then because well when I said home schooled I meant I was doing stuff I would do after school normally except all day

But I could save up for maybe 2-3 months to get one for 300$

[weak girder]

you're gonna need it in the near future

Im in high school and I barely do things on paper

everything I do is on the computer

[stark quiver]

Okay I’ll keep that in mind

[weak girder]

assignements, essays, presentations, school stuff, coding,

[mild siren]

Just save up

For a couple of months

2-3 months pass very fast

Unless you need it ASAP

@stark quiver

Just wait it out

Try to get as much money as you can (legit and good methods)

[opaque saddle]

not sure if your school does sell used computers

[weak girder]

not a good idea

its better to wait 3 months for a good pc

[opaque saddle]

usually they will sell it every a few years for 100

[weak girder]

than get a shit one with no excuse to upgrade

[opaque saddle]

i guess a 7th gen i7 for 100 bucks isnt bad, unless you wanna gaming on it

[weak girder]

ryzen 3 2200g

good integrated graphics

cheap cpu

and it is a good quad core

with a least 8 gb ram

[opaque saddle]

i think my old high school was selling the entire i7 rig for 100 AUD, isnt actually that bad for the price

with 16gb of ram and everything, new hdd as well

[weak girder]

my high school let us borrow chromebooks

and that as far as they will go

and really shitty chromebooks

[opaque saddle]

the tn display aye

like 150-200 bucks laptop

[weak girder]

idk

their 1 inch thick

chrome runs at 2 fps

[opaque saddle]

like the hp or dell

[weak girder]

hp

[opaque saddle]

i know how it looks like now

11.6" display

[weak girder]

yeah practically

[opaque saddle]

i meant it does the job

[weak girder]

you run chrome at 2 fps

they re from 2007 or smth

and chrome os is shit

[storm osprey]

theres a discord call stock drops that you can sign up for roles that will notify you as soon as a gpu/cpu drops online, i joined that and got lucky

[storm osprey]

yes, 1080p at 27" looks bad, PPI (pixels per inch) is not good

[modern gull]

Ah i see. guess i should have joined one of those. We'll see how long it will take before i get one, as i already ordered.

[modern gull]

Cant really look that bad tho? its just like 3 more inches, compared to my current 24 inch

[modern gull]

its less ppi ofc, but talking about the image itself

i had a 42 inch tv at 1080p could be very close to that and still decent image

[storm osprey]

the general rule is 1080p up to 24", at 27" 1440p

(for monitors and normal sitting distance)

[modern gull]

i am 100% sure 1080p would be good enough

[storm osprey]

i think 1080p at 27" looks like shit without AA, and with AA it just blurs the image, and idk anyone that thinks otherwise as well unless they dont know what they are talking about

[modern gull]

so you own a 27" with 1080p?

[storm osprey]

i have owned one

[modern gull]

ah i see

[storm osprey]

im currently using 27" 1440p

ive spent a lot of time with 24/27" at 1080p, and 24/27" at 1440p

[modern gull]

my point was 1080p shouldnt be a problem

ah i see

i will try at some point

[storm osprey]

"a problem" really depends on the individual

[modern gull]

mhm

[storm osprey]

ignorance is bliss

[modern gull]

but what you say about AA really makes sense tho. but depends on person if 1080p would look acceptable or really bad

to be honest i cant example see any huge benefit of 4k 24" if you see what i am saying

but it may be that 27" calls for 1440p atleast for a good image

[weak girder]

it actually makes sens because if you calculate the surface are of a 27 inch, it cover 1.5x the area than a 23 inch believe it or not

[storm osprey]

id personally never go back to 27" 1080p

if money got tight and i had to upgrade i would get 24" 1080p easily

[weak girder]

im getting 24 1080p 144hx

[storm osprey]

looking at forums on the topic and it seems like 90% of people agree

[modern gull]

I see. it might be the same for me if i go 1080p on 27" we'll see what i end up doing. but i will consider 1440p from what been said.

[storm osprey]

theres few people saying "its fine"

[weak girder]

for bf5 I usually play at 60 but all my other games I play at 144

[storm osprey]

1440p is a bit more expensive overall though

obviously the cost of the monitor directly, but also a better gpu

[modern gull]

pre ordered 3080 so think i have gpu for 1440p lol

[storm osprey]

ahh ok yea xD

[modern gull]

i dont mind 1080p 60hz as this keeps me from needing to upgrade my gpu that much

[storm osprey]

for any sort of reaction based competitive gaming i 100% recommend 144hz

[modern gull]

i know if i had high hz monitor i would play every game at monitor refresh. but that might end up wiht me needing to buy new gpu all the time.

i tried 144hz just on desktop its amazing!

[storm osprey]

well if you got a 3080 youll be fine

[modern gull]

not yet lol

[weak girder]

but is the experience from passing from 60 to 144 the same as going from 40 to 60?

or is it different

will I still think 60 is smooth

[storm osprey]

uhh, idk the math on that one

[modern gull]

ya but still wanting it to last as long as possible. So i avoid buying high hz monitors as i am happy with 60 fps anways

[weak girder]

or will I be only able to look at games at 144

[storm osprey]

idk what youre asking

[weak girder]

will 60 still feel smooth after experiencing 144

[storm osprey]

ehhh, a 3080 for 1440p 60 is a bit of a waste

[modern gull]

if i had 144 hz monitor i would never reduce it to 60 cause the image looks amazing

[modern gull]

ah really?

[weak girder]

its a question

[storm osprey]

probably not, i know a lot of people that swear they wont go back to 60 after using 144, im in the same camp

[modern gull]

no question mar lol

[weak girder]

lol

[modern gull]

tought it was statement you see 😛