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opaque saddle
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depending on your in game settings. it will be possible to reach 100%

strong breach
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just to stock turbo whatever it is

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to 4.7ghz

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haven't OCd

coarse nimbus
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hm my 6600k was acting all weird when I had it OC'd after a while

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ended up putting it back at stock and was able to run bf1 again lol

strong breach
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wouldn't make sense to OC it when im using a GTX1070

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i should be GPU bottlenecked

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not CPU

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:D

coarse nimbus
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but..youre only cool if you hit 5ghz FeelsMeowMan

opaque saddle
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i think what happened was, intel released a few patches

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due to spectre and meltdown

strong breach
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5Ghz gang

opaque saddle
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then most of the reports have one similar conclusion, the older cpu you got, the greater performance impact it will be

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one friend of mine got his 7700k and it runs Apex really badly after the patches

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that makes him replaced his cpu and mobo

strong breach
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there isn't really anything weighting my CPU down this is on idle

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enjoy the weird language OS

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πŸ‘

glossy plinth
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you know what you need

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a new cpu

strong breach
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true true

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gotta get a one with 32cores

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from AMD

glossy plinth
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if ya cant fix it

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just buy a new one

proud trellis
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1 % idle , mine is at 30% on idle

glossy plinth
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mines around 3% idle

coarse nimbus
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32 cores...and 32x the ipcs of anything else PogChamp

proud trellis
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ohh no change that , i closed full on everything and i was on 5%

supple bane
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Its because it only has 4 cores

proud trellis
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i have 6

supple bane
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Oh.

strong breach
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got inspired to delete bunch of waste programs

supple bane
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Nvm lol

proud trellis
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lolll

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atleast my game works now haHAA

strong breach
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idling at 3.6Gb of RAM usage surely is more comfortable than at 8gb

tardy notch
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anyone got a pc build for under $600 that is capable for running bf5?

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including monitor

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and keyboard

supple bane
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I'll have a go. You would probably be better buying a ps5 tho..

tardy notch
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but thx

glossy plinth
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uhhh

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is there even a pc that you can build for under $600

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oh there is

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nvm

proud trellis
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pretty sure u can ? but probs have to play 720p ?

glossy plinth
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dunno

tardy notch
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yes but the monitor will have to be a max of 75hz and 5ms response time

glossy plinth
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im seeing this prebuilt for $599

tardy notch
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oh and not prebuilt

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srry

glossy plinth
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uhhhhh

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well all i can say is

tardy notch
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just need parts that add to $600 max

glossy plinth
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get your fans and aio from corsair

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it'll do you good

proud trellis
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nooo

tardy notch
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okok

proud trellis
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not for 600

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get a deepcool AIO

glossy plinth
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no get a corsair aio

proud trellis
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pretty sure @supple bane uses deepcool

glossy plinth
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design is much better

proud trellis
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corsair is too much for 600

glossy plinth
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its not like hes buying the triple fan aio

proud trellis
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still

tardy notch
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ok so i need pretty much all parts, a monitor and keyboard, a CPU with cooler preferably and not liquid cooled

proud trellis
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u can get a 240mm AIO for like 75 which is the same price as a corsair h60 120mm

glossy plinth
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you know what we need

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nyphon

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all i can think of is

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get a ryzen 5 cpu

tardy notch
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ye

coarse nimbus
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600 build
suggesting an AIO
piss off WoahTea

glossy plinth
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with some 1660

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or 1650

coarse nimbus
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nah the dudes just being a trolling idiot

tardy notch
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me?

coarse nimbus
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no, water

glossy plinth
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this dude thinks im a troll cause i think corsair is better than logitech

proud trellis
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corsair is too much for 600 escpecially fucking AIO'S

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133 for that

tardy notch
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nah not liquid cooled

glossy plinth
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theres a corsair aio on sale rn for $99

proud trellis
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thats 1/6th of his budget water

tardy notch
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can u send me a ss of the compatibility of each one?

coarse nimbus
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why would you need a fucking aio on a budget pc

proud trellis
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exactly

coarse nimbus
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what cpu are you going to suggest to him that would need a fucking aio

glossy plinth
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a ryzen 5 or ryzen 3

proud trellis
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a standard AMD cooler would be fine

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that comes with the cpu

glossy plinth
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maybe ryzen 3 especially

tender horizon
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bf5 uses around 10 percent of my cpu

proud trellis
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the fuck

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how

glossy plinth
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man got a 64core cpu

proud trellis
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u have a threadripper ?

tardy notch
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can someone send me the parts?

glossy plinth
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sure

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I gotchu

tender horizon
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im not a tech person but i think i do

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its really powerful

proud trellis
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just go into task manager

tender horizon
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aye thats how i saw

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used up like 30 when i was in the middle of an artillery strike

supple bane
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@tardy notch

tardy notch
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thx man

supple bane
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Those parts are the best I could think of

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Going to the second hand market should be an option tho

tardy notch
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woah

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any chance u can change the CPU and male it better

glossy plinth
tardy notch
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u could get rid of the mouse

proud trellis
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water wtf

glossy plinth
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an amd card?

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arent the drivers unstable

tardy notch
glossy plinth
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rip

proud trellis
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a 2600 would be fine ?

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with something like a 1660s or a 1070 ?

glossy plinth
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maybe ebay time

proud trellis
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i would only get ram and a hhd off ebay tbh

glossy plinth
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dont buy a benq monitor

storm osprey
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this chat is confusing

supple bane
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The i3 9100f is perfectly capable

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For 70 bucks it's an amazing deal

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It allows you to spend more on the gpu which will have more of an affect

glossy plinth
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$70 9th gen cpu

supple bane
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It's a little behind the r5 2600 I believe

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Probably on par with an r5 1600

tardy notch
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can u change it to Ryzen 3?

supple bane
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I mean, I can, but it will likely be a down grade

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Unless you get a 3300x, but you are spending too much on the cpu then

glossy plinth
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just save a bit more

supple bane
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You want to spend as much on the GPU as possible

glossy plinth
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easy and you'll get a better pc

molten coral
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If I were you I would save 200 more

storm osprey
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gets an i3 4150 for 20 bucks and a 3070 gpu xD

molten coral
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Would get you way more options

glossy plinth
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^

gusty bison
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Got an estimate from an employee and they will not have the ps5 back in stock until next year

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Lmao well that failed

coarse nimbus
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similar reaction i had from a bestbuy person before the 3070 launch lul

glossy plinth
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next year?

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Lmfao

fallen harbor
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f

tardy notch
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bear in mind i dont need a mouse or headset so i can spend some more on the CPU?

supple bane
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your friend is wrong

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no offence

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the i3 9100f is perfectly fine

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there is this assumption that i3's are bad. but thats just not the case

echo marsh
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Hey guys

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Today I can not access Twitch, Twitter is constantly loading and Speedtest Ookla won't begin a test
However, my Internet download/upload is fine, even in real-time game downloading

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What seems to be the issue

proud trellis
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i used ookla like 5 mins ago to test my internet

echo marsh
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I've tried 2 different Ethernet cables, I've tried through phone and PC, discord won't even boot (I'm using 4G on phone, that's why I can talk here)

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Even have a 1080p YT video playing right now with lengthy buffering already cleared

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Please help

glossy plinth
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uhhh

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@supple bane

supple bane
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Wat

proud trellis
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think he is on about the breeze guy

echo marsh
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I'm sorry if this is a weird one, but this just happened when I was going to use my PC an hour ago

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And my Origin is offline, whilst my BattleLog is online

storm osprey
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so i might go for 10700k since its $360

proud trellis
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i7 ?

storm osprey
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ye

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8c16t

proud trellis
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niceee

storm osprey
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vs getting a 5600x is 6c12t

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and 5600x is faster but not much, especially at 1440p and the games i play

proud trellis
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isnt the 5600x more money too ?

storm osprey
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so to me getting more cores for 60 bucks sounds reasonable

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5600x is 300, 10700k is 360

proud trellis
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ohhh

coarse nimbus
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but..isnt the 5600x having the same IPC increase which makes it better WoahTea

storm osprey
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5600x is better, but i play at 1440p so its kind of a wash

coarse nimbus
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is the core difference even an issue when its supposed to be faster anyways

prime jasper
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is a rtx 2060 good for bf5?

proud trellis
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yeah

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!!specs

silent oasisBOT
proud trellis
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@prime jasper

prime jasper
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I saw thanks

proud trellis
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oh ok

supple bane
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Especially 1440p low

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There isnt a cpu on earth I bet that wont bottleneck a 3080 on bfv

storm osprey
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yes the cpu still matters at 1440p, yes theres not a cpu that doesnt bottleneck a 3080 at 1440p, idk what your point in saying that is?

supple bane
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My point is you shouldn't pay more for less fps

storm osprey
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those 2 comments dont negate that

supple bane
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You need all the single core performance you can get

storm osprey
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and im getting like.. 5 less fps

supple bane
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I guess for 2 extra cores that's a ok trade off

storm osprey
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at 1440p yea

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other than "esport" titles, the fps difference is meaningless

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either way id be maxing out my monitor for esport titles too

supple bane
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If I was in your shoes tho I would get the 5600x, being broke and all, paying more for less sounds like a bad deal, even if I get 2 extra cores

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I had to do it with the 2070 vs 5700xt, and it killed me lol

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I payed more for slightly less performance,

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But I did that cuz of drivers,

proud trellis
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nyphon is there even any point in getting an i7 if u dont stream ?

storm osprey
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at 1080p the fps difference looks to be about 10 fps

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i dont stream atm because i had a gtx 1080 and 4790 for 1440p

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now that ill be having at least a 5600x/10700k i will try streaming casually

proud trellis
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oh

glossy plinth
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dont u need another pc to stream so u wont get fps drops while gaming

proud trellis
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^

storm osprey
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the 5fps gain at 1440p for the 5600x doesnt really bother me, getting 2 more cores for longevity as well

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yes, if you dont want your system to drop fps dedicated streamers have a 2nd pc to stream

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thats not a necessity though

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if im pushing 300 fps i can lose 50fps to stream

proud trellis
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nyphon have u played bfv recently actually ?

storm osprey
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yea

glossy plinth
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I streamed valorant and dropped like 70fps on single pc

proud trellis
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does ur cpu go to 100 utilization ?

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it does it for me idk why

storm osprey
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bfv uses everything

glossy plinth
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even hdd and ssd?

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wtf this game is more advanced than i thought

storm osprey
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well loads arent really influential on game performance

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as long as your storage doesnt suck theres not really going to be a difference

proud trellis
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my game freezes when im loading into games, is that because im on a hhd ?

storm osprey
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hmm, a lot of the benchmarks im looking at online for 5600x and 10700k have the 10700k pretty even too

proud trellis
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is there a website u can put ur specs in and see what fps u would most likely get on a game

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i wanted to try and find one for EFT

storm osprey
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i just youtube everything in the hope my configuration is there

coarse nimbus
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is the 5600 just not as "gud" compared to the higher end 5k chips?

proud trellis
storm osprey
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ohhh

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yea 1440p in general is kind of a pain to find

proud trellis
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like for some reason 1080p and 4k are fucking everywhere

storm osprey
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like.. theres WAY more 1080p 3080 benchmarks than 1440p

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who the FUCK is buying a 3080 for 1080p?

proud trellis
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pfffft

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longer use ig

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and more fps

storm osprey
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yea but youre heavily cpu bound

proud trellis
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me looking for 1440p vids

glossy plinth
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Tbh

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I would buy a 3080 for 1080p

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but id switch to 2k if i can use 240hz

coarse nimbus
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id expect you to get a 3090 tbh

storm osprey
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well you do have a 1500w psu...

proud trellis
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he does

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i think

coarse nimbus
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3090 and dual 10900ks? WoahTea

glossy plinth
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I want a stable 240+ fps in competitive fps games

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my 5700x kinda getting useless with these new gpus

coarse nimbus
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can you actually buy a 5600 at $300 though

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well i guess those are pretty much msrp, unlike AIB gpus being overpriced FeelsMeowMan

storm osprey
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5600x is still commonly sold out

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and seemingly ryzen is pushing the 5800x more if the stockdrops discord im in is any indication

glossy plinth
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when u want a 5000cpu but they out of stockSad

coarse nimbus
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hmm amd was saying a 10700k was $409 in their value comparison to the 5600x chart

storm osprey
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so 5800x is getting more than twice the notifications that 5600x is getting

coarse nimbus
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and videocardz date on this article is oct 8, is that when the stream was? but pcparts picker has this as a graph ThinkHmm

chrome skiff
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The 10700k is on sale at micro center for 319 bucks and you can save 20 bucks buying a mobo. You can also buy a 3700x for 270 and get 30 off a mobo combo and get pcie 4 support too. 3700x is close enough to 9900k/10700k.

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I just bought 2 3700x used because people being dumb and panic upgrading thinking the 5000 series cpus are that much better. Both of the 3700x oc to 4.4-4.5 all core and run 3733 cl14 rock solid.

coarse nimbus
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just how many PCs do you have BruhMoment

chrome skiff
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I have 5. 4 daily and the 5th if i need a backup or a friend stays the night or something and wants to game

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I build tons of pcs for a program called open arms and i donate them to kids so they can actually can have lives

coarse nimbus
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can i use one of those 4?? no you get the 5th one you scum! Sadcatthumb

supple bane
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Do you do that out of your own pocket?!

chrome skiff
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1 is a server cause i have a 10gb internet and a switch in my house. If i need to move files i do it at 10gbs a second

coarse nimbus
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the bad part about MC deals are you have to be near a store for them, no online sales ..nearest to me is 2 hrs

chrome skiff
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Yes i do. Ive been helped but i never ask anyone for anything

supple bane
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10 gig too?! Man you must be minted lmao

chrome skiff
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I would say 4 hours is worth some of the sales imo. But i also dont go and buy 1 cpu for a 4 hour trip lol

supple bane
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What do you do for a living? If you dont mind me asking of course

chrome skiff
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No all my mobos have 10gig and i have a server that has most of my big files /games movies etc on it. If i need to move it from one pc to another i do it through the switch

supple bane
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Oh 10gig local, not internet

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That's more reasonable lmao

chrome skiff
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Yeah not 10 gig internet lol sorry if i said that

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1 gig sym at my house though

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Im in medicine next year i will officially be a pharmacist.

supple bane
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Sounds like it's working out for you lol

chrome skiff
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Being nice built me a great list of friends from all over the place. So as important as money is it isnt what got me where i was

coarse nimbus
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he writing scripts on the side for more money RIP

chrome skiff
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Shhhhhh!!!!

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jk

proud trellis
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speaking of internet , does BFV need some NASA type internet ? i was lagging so much earlier but when i try any other game its fine

supple bane
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I mean your internet does suck lol

chrome skiff
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Sometimes its a program that hiccups in the background. I notice even on 1 gig sym discord voice causes the bfv warning to come up

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Even though its voice and its a joke it can still cause a blip

proud trellis
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i always get a packet loss symble too , wtf is packet loss ?

supple bane
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What does sun mean btw? Because what I know it from is quite offensive hehe

radiant plover
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You should read the Requirements internet speed of the game

supple bane
proud trellis
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no

radiant plover
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@supple bane it's like if a data failed to reach its destination.

supple bane
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Ok so, data is sent as packets, small little packets of data, so when you download something, you won't get one huge file but hundreds or thousands of chunks of datav

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Packet loss is when one of those little chunks doesnt arrive

proud trellis
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oh

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is there a way to stop it

supple bane
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Going wired if you are on wireless is the best fix

radiant plover
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I always get that packet loss error whenever I use my Mobile Hospot

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That's just because I was far from home.

supple bane
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Packet loss is a big thing for wifi

chrome skiff
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Need that linus tech tips wifi

proud trellis
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i have a booster in my room and i plugged in a ethernet cable

supple bane
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Yeah so that booster is over wifi then

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I assume

proud trellis
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ye

supple bane
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There you go then

proud trellis
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my internet has always been shit tho , you are right

radiant plover
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It's time for Upgrade

chrome skiff
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Upgrades people upgrades

proud trellis
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excuse me

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upgrade ?

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we got new internet like 3 months ago

chrome skiff
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time to get rid of it

proud trellis
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i wish

silent hearth
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What speed do you consider shit? 🀣

glossy plinth
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anything 50 or below

silent hearth
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50mbps?

glossy plinth
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yeah

proud trellis
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i usually get around 70

silent hearth
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Ohoooo

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And how much the subscription usually cost

proud trellis
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ik how much my parents have to pay and its stupid for what we get

silent hearth
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Because i know someone who pays like 60$ for openspeed and he don't get more than 25mps

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Mbps*

proud trellis
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i get around 55-70 most of the time

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mbps

echo marsh
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I fixed it!

latent light
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@silent hearth my grandma gets 3mbps for $60

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Actually $120 now

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CenturyLink doubled the price but didn't do shit to the speeds

proud trellis
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internet companies are expensive

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no matter what u have , you overpay for what you get

radiant plover
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Yeah they charge you way too expensive but the speed isn't worth it.

opal cliff
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Just curious would the new rtx 3000 cards be overkill for 1080p?

barren osprey
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Yall can’t say anything took me 3 days to download terraria

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46kb/s

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Internet is literally shit

glossy plinth
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i might plan to get rtx 3000s just for 1080p but granty and nacho gonna be complaining

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wasting a potential 8K card just for 1080p gaming

glossy plinth
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whre the fuck do you live

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for $14 and 100mbps

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what the fuckkkk

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$14, 100mbps

latent light
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@opal cliff Any CPU in the world, even with an extreme overclock, will bottleneck the RTX 3080 and 3090 at 1080p in the vast majority of games

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Even most games in 1440p

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Although 1440p is still a reasonable resolution with the RTX 3080, especially 1440p ultrawide

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But 1080p is just dumb

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Unless there are specific games you play that don't bottleneck at 1080p

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Which I'm not aware if there are any

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No games are demanding enough to the point where a 3080 gets fully utilized at 1080p

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But maybe in a year or two that can change

turbid verge
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Rn I have that in mind 1440p 144hz is my current resolution amd refresh rate

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3080 should hold well for good 3-4 gens

latent light
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RTX 4000 gonna be based on TSMC 5nm and could come out in 2021, 5nm is insanely more efficient than the Samsung 8nm node

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Also new architecture

prime jasper
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4000 ;0

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nice

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still running a 1060

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4090gtx πŸ˜‰

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about 50000 cudas πŸ™‚

weak girder
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I have rtx 6900 with 5000000000 cudas

supple bane
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1500 gigashits?

chrome skiff
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gigashits per megafart? damn thats pretty good

radiant plover
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Georgebytes

silent hearth
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@latent light sameπŸ˜–

latent light
raw turtle
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500$ plus for a 3060? That’s gotta be cap

latent light
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Nah it's gonna be $399 USD msrp

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Europe includes tax in price

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Also AIB models gonna cost more

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RX 6900XT boost clockspeeds even higher than 6800XT

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RDNA2 logic: more compute units = more clockspeed

proud trellis
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trying to play warzone on 8GB of ram is a piss take

storm osprey
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New build

glossy plinth
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dont forget to add in corsair stuff nyphon

coarse nimbus
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very original troll/10

chrome skiff
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9900ks are regularly cheaper and you can get z390 cheap too same performance

latent light
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I'd choose 5600X and ~$120 B550

coarse nimbus
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$108 for a 2.5" 250gb drive WoahTea

latent light
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I'm holding onto my Ryzen 5 1600 until a few months after AM5 launches then I'll get a R7 6700X

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And B650

coarse nimbus
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diabetus hooking you up with his contact for early stock? LULW

latent light
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FeelsUSAman

coarse nimbus
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cant even get current gen stock and the madman thinking he gunna get in on the next gen which is 1000x better than this gen FeelsMeowMan

latent light
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DDR5 is gonna be epic imo

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Zen4 as well

chrome skiff
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no no that stocks for me lol

storm osprey
chrome skiff
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as rock extreme 4 is a great mobo

storm osprey
coarse nimbus
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ok..was going to be quite confused

latent light
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I wanna get a long term 4TB SSD

storm osprey
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Cheapest atx b550 is 135

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Recommended mb is the a pro.

latent light
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Just invest a lot of money into SSD storage when it goes on sale

storm osprey
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I got the intel a pro for 120 btw.

chrome skiff
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I nabbed a ton of samsung ssds on the black Friday sales

storm osprey
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Mb for 120 and cpu for 350.

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I spent like 60 bucks more than I would have with a 5600x build to get 2 more cores.

latent light
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I can't wait for 4TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe for under $200 one day

chrome skiff
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sabrent makes 1tb rockets for 160 bucks?

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pcie 4 nvme

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I bought a 2tb rocket pro on sale for 200

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oh 4tb was that there?

latent light
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4TB gonna be under 200 probably by end of next year

chrome skiff
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as far as I know ram and silicon is going to be twice as expensive next year into 2022

latent light
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Why

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There's a lot of 7nm and 5nm wafer supply for TSMC and Samsung also will have quite a bit

storm osprey
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I’ve seen YouTubers say that too

latent light
storm osprey
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Idk and idc. I won’t buy any pc parts for 4+ years

latent light
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Imagine Ryzen 5 6600X costing $400+

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6700X $500+

chrome skiff
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with smaller nm and ddr5 being close to public release id say its gonna be much more expensive and once ddr5 becomes tye standard ddr4 with become more expensive since it will eventually stop being produced

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The kid that lives me with i just upgraded him from a 1600x and a 1060 to a 5800 and 6800 so he won't have to worry much for a couple years. also got him a new 1000watt psu

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did it on black Friday with all the sales and I chose to do it early since its gonna start getting expensive

fallen harbor
#

two gpus?

chrome skiff
#

no thats a 5800 cpu with a 6800 gpu

fallen harbor
#

i never heard of a 5800 cpu. I assume its a ryzen?

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is it new?

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did it release recently?

opaque saddle
#

5800x?

chrome skiff
#

yes a 5800x im so used to the gpu not having a letter i said the cpu the same way

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I also didn't think it would matter that much but I guess it did

fallen harbor
#

anybody remembers what AF means in ryzen cpus?

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i forgot

glossy plinth
#

@fallen harbor google says

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auto focus

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wait nvm

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it's a slower variant of the Zen+ CPU from the 2000-series, but with a 1000-series name.

fallen harbor
#

oic

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i am a bit outdated on amd cpus

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i only know the 5000 series came out

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recently

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but

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what about the ryzen 5 3400g? is there a new version of this?

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or athlon 3000g

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anybody has a tier list of both intel and amd cpus of the lowest end?

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i mean below i3 and ryzen 3

glossy plinth
#

nyphon probably does

fallen harbor
#

i only know the pentium gold 5420 or something like that, athlon 3000g and then only some stuff like A6 or whatever? all of that is very shady in my mind

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btw, anybody here builds pcs for money?

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or sells pcs

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or whatever

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i am considering doing this

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but idk where to start

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holy shit why are psus so expensive

glossy plinth
#

id reccomend corsair psu but bmac here gonna be like

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"nice troll troll"

coarse nimbus
#

I think the main factory that makes the internals for most PSU units had an issue so prices have been high for a whileSad

glossy plinth
#

and the best place to buy psus is corsair

storm osprey
#

well thankfully i didnt open my 10700k, amazon put up a damn good sale on 10700kf

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10700kf for 290

fallen harbor
#

neato

latent light
#
latent light
#

So I sat on my Galaxy S6 in my back pocket and bent the fuck out of it but it still works and now it has a curved screen

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Screen, motherboard and battery mysteriously still working

proud trellis
#

ooooof

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is a 1080ti better then a 2070s ?

supple bane
#

they are around the same i think

proud trellis
#

ohh

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2070s is cheaper tho isnt it ?

supple bane
#

certainly

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well you cant buy a 1080ti new

proud trellis
#

one of my friends is getting a new card and he wanted to get a 1080

glossy plinth
#

wtf 1080ti same perf as a 2070s

proud trellis
#

1080ti seems more money tho

supple bane
#

idk why you would get a 1080

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you would have to buy it used

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unless he is getting a 1080ti BECAUSE he wants to buy used

glossy plinth
#

tell ur friend to get a 2070s

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more newer

proud trellis
#

i said get a 2070s

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but i just didnt know if a 1080ti is better then a 2070s

supple bane
#

i think its slightly better

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not by much tho

proud trellis
#

yeah

glossy plinth
#

and it has raytracing abilities

supple bane
#

and you wont have to buy used

proud trellis
#

true

supple bane
#

and it has a lower tdp iirc

proud trellis
#

i think scan sell some 2070's actually

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might send him a link to it

supple bane
proud trellis
#

ok no they dont

supple bane
#

i mean, its not a bad deal tbf

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second hand 1080ti

proud trellis
#

the 4th one looks alright tbf

glossy plinth
#

theres a 2070S selling for $650 rn in mercari

proud trellis
#

tf

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650

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holy shit

glossy plinth
#

and theres also a RTx 3070

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cheaper than 2080 i think

proud trellis
supple bane
#

fuck that lol

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paying more for less performance

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a lot more too

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ik it doesnt have ray tracing and the 1080ti draws more power. but its a worthy trade off

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to spend half as much and get more fps

glossy plinth
#

$65 for a 650ti

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$25*

proud trellis
#

πŸ˜‚

storm osprey
#

the used market is so bad atm that i dont think its worth

proud trellis
#

i would never trust second hand tech tbh

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unless its off someone family related

storm osprey
#

yea, the only thing i buy 2nd hand tech is a computer case for 20 bucks

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i sell 2nd hand regularly though

proud trellis
#

tbf ig buying mobo's cant be all bad ?

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second hand

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i would never get a HHD/SSD second hand tho as it could have something installed on it

proud trellis
#

oh no not corsair

glossy plinth
#

nothing else beats corsair

glossy plinth
#

what are you?

#

logitech fanboy?

proud trellis
#

no

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just cant say corsair is the best

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all the time

molten bramble
proud trellis
strong breach
#

it do be true

proud trellis
#

they are expensive or something tho arent they ?

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the samsung ones

molten bramble
#

@glossy plinth I've warned you before about shilling a brand for the sake of the brand name--be objective in your commentary for the needs of the inquiring party or do not continue to provide any input in this channel regarding recommendations.

#

Last warning on the matter.

glossy plinth
proud trellis
primal pier
#

Hydra gonna make water into gas

proud trellis
storm osprey
#

your ass is gas and im gonna smoke it

coarse nimbus
#

Nah it's only a psu WoahTea

molten bramble
storm osprey
#

my black heart hates it

glossy plinth
#

ew that mousepad

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is so small

molten bramble
#

I am not a fan of white cases, but that looks good.

coarse nimbus
#

It's like the golden ak of computers

glossy plinth
#

its horrible

proud trellis
glossy plinth
#

pretty sure everyone buys 30inch mousepad nowadays

coarse nimbus
#

Aka a waste of resourceswhat

storm osprey
#

i hate seeing these builds that "look cool", cost 1500 dollars, and then they have mid tier cpu/gpu

glossy plinth
#

looks > specs

hardy storm
#

Hey man. Some people like buying Ford Pintos and putting Ferrari kits on them ok!

glossy plinth
#

rather game on a flashy cool looking pc with mid tier specs than a high end pc looking like a 90's air conditioner case

storm osprey
#

id literally game on a pc that looks like a turd if i saved a good amount of money for the same or better performance

hardy storm
#

90's monitors heated my entire house

glossy plinth
#

all you need is a bit of rgb in your life nyphon

storm osprey
#

i actually do have some hints of rgb

glossy plinth
#

rgb strips dont count

storm osprey
#

my gpu has 2 rgb logos on it

glossy plinth
hardy storm
#

I just got done RGBing my house.

storm osprey
#

how much faster is your house now?

hardy storm
#

Still a WiP but almost done

fallen harbor
#

neato

hardy storm
#

2000 individually addressable pixels

glossy plinth
#

now thats

#

RGB

hardy storm
#

House is at least... 3 times faster than before.

glossy plinth
coarse nimbus
#

What song are you going to match it to WoahThink

glossy plinth
#

this song

quaint topaz
#

@hardy storm That is very nice

#

which strips did you use for this?

#

Been looking for LEDs for the house exterior as well

hardy storm
# quaint topaz which strips did you use for this?

BTF-Lighting, 5meter, ws2811's, 12v, 96leds/m. Placed in 23mm aluminum channels. They are addressable in groups of 3, but with 96/m they are so packed in that 3 of them look like 1 pixels worth (of 30/m or 60/m).
I've got 14awg wire running to 5 different injection points. You cant run more than about (2)5m strips without injection, or voltage drop is too much. The controller Im using is a DigQuad from Intermittent Tech.
If you have any questions, feel free to pm me. Im a good 200 hours into this project.

fallen harbor
#

cute house

proud trellis
#

@fallen harbor my computer works fine now btw

fallen harbor
#

oh

#

how

#

what did you do

proud trellis
#

literally nothing

#

warzone works and BFV

#

think it was ram issue

fallen harbor
#

did you put more ram

proud trellis
#

no

fallen harbor
#

how do you come to this conclussion

proud trellis
#

there is still stuttering in warzone a bit and one of my friends brother said its most likely ram causing the issue

fallen harbor
#

why have they still not changed your pc

#

what the fuck are you doing

proud trellis
#

idk

#

i cant get a refund for it anyway

fallen harbor
#

you will run out of warranty

#

you should have been able to demand for a change

proud trellis
#

i have another year and like 5 months

#

so warrenty is fine for now

fallen harbor
#

if you care about your money you will demand a warranty application

#

as soon as possible

proud trellis
#

they said they wouldnt be able to refund it as i have had the system for too long

fallen harbor
#

do you know what warranty means

#

it means that if something came faulty you can change it

#

your pc came faulty

#

it's as easy as calling them and saying hey yo yeah the pc you sold me isnt fucking working, come pick it up and give me another

#

thank you bye

#

problem solved

#

months of frustration conversations of discord solved

proud trellis
#

idk what to do

fallen harbor
#

i just told you what to do

#

it's not quantum physics

proud trellis
#

yeah ik but i doubt they will change it

fallen harbor
#

they are waiting for you to run out of warranty so you cant do that anymore

proud trellis
#

come to the conclusion that the company are assholes

fallen harbor
#

oh they are forced to change it

#

you can demand them if they dare not to

glossy plinth
#

just sue em

proud trellis
#

i said this to nyphon i think

fallen harbor
#

they just know you are 13 or 14 and have no experience in dealing with scams so they think thye are safe

#

talk about this to your parents or whoever did the payment process

proud trellis
#

i did

fallen harbor
#

your parents said fuck it its fine?

proud trellis
proud trellis
#

my parents think i have broke it tho , when i havent

#

they dont understand

fallen harbor
#

woah your parents are assholes

#

you will have to either convince them of the opposite

#

or... calling the store, but your parents would have to bring you there and stuff

#

and from what you tell me, they wont

proud trellis
#

my mum full on said to ring them

#

but i was too shy in all honesty

#

they will most likely think because im young im trolling

fallen harbor
#

you will eventually have to overcome this shyness because this happens a lot

#

it doesnt matter what they think as long as you give them solid poitns

proud trellis
#

i might wait till xmas is over and then drop them a cocky ass call demanding a refund

fallen harbor
#

say hello, i got this pc from your store and you know from my previous calls that I've been having a performance problem ever since I got it. There's clearly one part inside that is malfunctioning and i am still under warranty, so I will need a change of components

#

if they are assholes or smart they will say that there's something wrong that you did that led to that, but you and me know that's not the reason, you have already tested every part

proud trellis
#

yeah

fallen harbor
#

tell them it might be the ram or the drive, so at least they assume you know what youre talking about

#

so they dont bullshit you as much

proud trellis
#

yeah

#

im more annoyed because i saw what i can get for an extra 200 pounds

fallen harbor
#

the employee will believe you more and try to lie less if you start using technical names as soon as you start talking, and you know a lot of it, use it

proud trellis
#

the system rn is 1660s
intel i5-9400f
8gb ram

#

you know whats more annoying , they could resell that thing if they refunded me within a FUCKING WEEK

#

if they fix the problem

fallen harbor
#

you are in your legal right to claim a change of computer. Refunding is a different thing, refunding means giving the pc back and youg etting your money back, that's not what youre trying to do here, you are trying to give them your pc back so they give you another that is the same but not literally the same one

#

because the first one obviously came faulty

proud trellis
#

i could get a R5-3600
3070
16gb ram

#

for an extra 200 that is sweet

fallen harbor
#

you can always get something better with extra money yes

proud trellis
#

i thought warranty just meant if its not working , u can send it back to be fixed

storm osprey
#

updated parts list with correct prices and already owned parts

fallen harbor
proud trellis
#

ohh

fallen harbor
#

legally speaking you are even legally allowed to claim warranty if your pc case has a hecking small scratch if you dont like it

#

they would still be forced to obligue

proud trellis
#

the case is wank

#

only fits 2 fans

#

and they do 3070's in the case im pretty sure

fallen harbor
#

the 1660s is a pretty good gpu anyway

#

the 3070 is for 4k or 120fps

#

it's off the chart, you dont need it

#

unless you own a 4k or 144hz monitor

proud trellis
#

i own 1440p

glossy plinth
#

@fallen harbor do you think 3070 is good for 1080p 240hz

fallen harbor
#

what games

#

cause that depends on the games

#

and i dont think any game is specifically coded to run at 240hz

#

not saying games cannot run at that

#

but few will reach it or make use of it

#

there are few benchmark tests of high end cards on 1080p last time i checked

#

so it's hard to tell

#

but i don't think the 3070 will run a game like red dead redemption 2 at 240fps on 1080p

glossy plinth
#

uh

#

csgo

fallen harbor
#

oh thats for sure

#

the 3070 will probably run csgo at like 400fps if not more

opaque saddle
#

Cs go for benchmarking purposes

fallen harbor
#

on 1080p

opaque saddle
#

Not mainly for β€œgaming”

fallen harbor
#

it will most likely make it run at its maximum coded frame rate

#

which i dont know what it is

#

i run csgo on 250-350fps with an rx590 so ofc you will get 240fps with a 3070, no question

#

it's even too much for that

opaque saddle
#

People use CSGO to do benchmarking results coz it has a guideline showcasing the in game performance

fallen harbor
#

you might actually rather go for a 3060

#

or even less

#

3050ti

glossy plinth
#

i be getting frame drops even tho in csgo, even tho i have a stronger gpu than yours

fallen harbor
#

what gpu and cpu and ram do you have

#

and describe your drops more specifically please

glossy plinth
#

like

#

140fps

#

140-300fps average

#

mostly 170average

fallen harbor
#

i assume you play on high settings

glossy plinth
#

all low*

fallen harbor
#

then your cpu must be bottlenecking

fallen harbor
glossy plinth
#

5700xt, r7 3700x

#

i really wanna change my shitty gpu to a 3070

fallen harbor
#

what ram

#

how much and is it single or dual channel

glossy plinth
#

dual channel ddr4

fallen harbor
#

8 or 16

glossy plinth
#

16

#

i forgot mhz

fallen harbor
#

it doesnt matter, something seems to be wrong with your pc because all of it is better than mine but mine runs it with significantly more frame rate

#

unless you play on a higher resolution

glossy plinth
#

1080p only

#

changing my gpu will most likely fix fps drops

fallen harbor
#

if your gpu isn't faulty, you shouldnt be getting any drops below 200fps to begin with

glossy plinth
#

never shouldve bought a amd card in the first place tbh

fallen harbor
#

something isn't being used on its maximum power on your pc

#

maybe your power supply is not strong enough?

glossy plinth
#

1500watt psu isnt strong enough?

fallen harbor
glossy plinth
#

what the fuck

fallen harbor
supple bane
#

still cant believe you got a 1500w psu for a 5700xt lmao

fallen harbor
#

but for the love of god never buy 1500w

#

ever again

glossy plinth
#

my future 3070 might need that extra power

fallen harbor
#

no

#

lol

#

nothing needs that

supple bane
#

it wont lol

#

it would even be overkill for a 3090

glossy plinth
#

i probably wont upgrade my cpu since its decent for now

proud trellis
#

ando do u think i should ring em this week ?

fallen harbor
#

do it whenever you feel like it bro

#

but every passing day is a day in favor for them

#

and not for you

proud trellis
#

yup

fallen harbor
#

just remember that

supple bane
#

a balls to the wall overclocked 3090 will draw like 400w, a pinned out thread ripper on a chiller will draw like 300w. +another 100w for ram and fans and what ever and you are still only just above half of that psu

glossy plinth
#

from what ive seen in reddit is to always invest in a good psu, even my friend said it

#

since its apparently the heart of the pc

fallen harbor
#

it's true but lol

#

you missunderstood it

#

good psu means good brand, good quality

#

there are super good 550w psus

glossy plinth
#

and i got the best brand and quality

fallen harbor
#

for instance

proud trellis
#

he has corsair psu

glossy plinth
#

all i need to worry is changing my 5700xt

fallen harbor
#

there are two things to consider: Brand/quality and wattage. The wattage is nice to be a bit above your maximum use, because psus lose wattage a little over the years, so it doesnt hurt to have like an additional 100w there. And also a good brand

#

so you always do a calculation first

#

your pc maybe uses 500w max

#

so you get a 600w psu

#

of a nice brand, like corsair, or seasonic if you have a lot of money

#

and thats it

#

but you went for like

#

you sneaked into nasa

#

and stole arocket

#

and put it into your pc

#

when people say to spend on psu, what they mean is not to get a hecking crappy kelyx psu for $5

proud trellis
#

isnt cooler master good for psu's too ?

fallen harbor
#

afaik it's decent but not pretty good

glossy plinth
#

doesnt cooler master only make fans and aios

proud trellis
#

no

fallen harbor
#

ive seen critiques recommending corsair or evga over cooler master

proud trellis
#

evga i dont like em

#

they look shite

fallen harbor
#

evga used to have relatively bad psus in the past

#

but nowadays they do decent ones afaik

#

on pair with corsair

proud trellis
glossy plinth
#

i heard coolermaster makes really good cases

proud trellis
#

the 3 front fan cases they do are amazing

fallen harbor
#

neato

glossy plinth
#

i like the design

#

just change the fans with corsair fans

proud trellis
#

ff sake

glossy plinth
#

clean design, 9.5/10

proud trellis
#

ando this guy .. has a fetish for corsair

fallen harbor
#

thats fine

#

i dont kinkshame

#

cant kinkshame when i have this pfp on

proud trellis
#

corsair fans are nice but some are like 30-40 point each

glossy plinth
#

good quality tho

storm osprey
#

afaik cooler master doesnt make their own psus, again theres only like 5 major psu manufacturers

#

and basically NO ONE makes their own AIOs (only one i think makes their own is Arctic), everyone buys coolers from asetek and slaps their own branding/fans on it

fallen harbor
#

you are my manufacturer bro

proud trellis
#

ando is my local tech support

molten coral
#

I want the lian li fans, they look so good.

proud trellis
#

lian li make fans ?

storm osprey
#

nvm, cm does make their own according to this

proud trellis
#

thought it was only cases they made

proud trellis
#

WOAHH

#

they look coool

storm osprey
#

is that the daisy chain one?

molten coral
#

Almost no wires too

#

Yeah

storm osprey
#

didnt isuni or someone return them because they had problems/sucked?

#

arctic p12 FTW

molten coral
#

No that was something else

proud trellis
#

they make cables ?

#

woahh

#

sorry nyphon

molten coral
#

LianLi makes a lot of stuff but they are well known for the PC-O11

supple bane
#

no isuni did return those fans

#

he had problems with the bearings or something

storm osprey
#

arctic p12 FTW

molten coral
#

not even RGB yikes

storm osprey
#

imagine spending more than 10 bucks for a fan

molten coral
proud trellis
#

if i was to ever buy fans i would get some silent but good ones if i can find any

molten coral
#

I wanted RGB because of my case

supple bane
#

my next pc would probably just be white fans. not rgb. just white

proud trellis
#

not rgb Thinkeyes

storm osprey
#

literally 95% the performance of noctua fans, but are 1/3 the price

#

and dont come in ugly brown

supple bane
#

those are tacky imo

storm osprey
#

"silent but good"
arctic p12

molten coral
#

So apparently if I buy my fans right now and the commander pro it will be around 400 euro LUL

storm osprey
#

stop fighting the performance

supple bane
proud trellis
#

lol

storm osprey
#

fanboyism of the objectively best bang for buck products?

molten coral
#

A fan is a fan

storm osprey
#

ill stop praising arctic p12s the moment something even compares and is cheaper

proud trellis
#

sums it up tbf nacho

storm osprey
#

theres a difference between a delta fan and a noctua fan though

proud trellis
#

nyphons none RGB recommendations are worse then waters corsair fetish

storm osprey
#

best performance for the buck is not negated because it lacks rgb

molten coral
#

I mean at the end most fans are the same only thing is that some are quieter and have a little bit better performance

proud trellis
#

they all move air at the end of the day

molten coral
#

You aren't really going to notice a huge difference maybe a few degrees

#

but who cares about that lol

proud trellis
#

my temps are shocking ngl

molten coral
#

I haven't looked at my temps since I build this

proud trellis
#

flex

molten coral
#

what is there to flex lol

proud trellis
#

mine are like 40 degrees when idle

storm osprey
proud trellis
#

and reach something like 80 when gaming

supple bane
#

i get better temps than an open bench

glossy plinth
#

hey man whys corsair so high

proud trellis
#

so i leave the side panel off

#

ff sake

storm osprey
#

theres an 8c difference on this small sample alone

#

thats noise normalized too

#

i can only show you the light, i cant make you go to it

#

ironically lights are what you guys prefer...

proud trellis
#

RGB would make it cooler-change my mind

storm osprey
#

i dont argue vs that, i think lights are cool

proud trellis
#

no no i mean lower temps

storm osprey
#

but on gods green earth in no way would i spend more money to get lights and less performance

proud trellis
#

not cool looking

#

πŸ˜‚

storm osprey
#

i hate you

hardy storm
#

pinto. ferrari kit.

molten coral
#

I think I spent around 300 euro for the corsair fans and the controller face

storm osprey
#

and ill spend 50 bucks and get better thermals...

molten coral
#

I'm a mad man

#

Pretty lights though

hardy storm
#

Real photo of @storm osprey

storm osprey
#

my heart

glossy plinth
#

my eyes

hardy storm
#

lol

storm osprey
#

i hate applying thermal paste

molten coral
#

why?

proud trellis
#

are you the grinch or something LMAO

molten coral
#

Just put a dot on it

#

and be done with it

storm osprey
#

how BIG of a dot?

#

if you cant tell, im a bit of a min-maxer

proud trellis
#

pea size

hardy storm
#

slightly smaller than a pea ya

storm osprey
#

so i want to put the perfect amount of paste

molten coral
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Yeah pea size

storm osprey
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i also dont put a dot, i normally use the X method

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dot usually doesnt get the edges

molten coral
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Dot, X, square it all works

hardy storm
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exactly. just like ICE shows in his video

storm osprey
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but theres objectively better, and thats what i live for

hardy storm
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gotta get every pin covered

storm osprey
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i optimize just about everything i do

proud trellis
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aren't you suppose to spread it round the cpu ?

molten coral
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Best program to check temps?

storm osprey
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i always install cpuid and gpuz

hardy storm
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RealTemp

molten coral
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Yeah that is also what I always use cpuid and gpuz

hardy storm
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CoreTemp

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either of those

storm osprey
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wow i havent heard realtemp in years..

supple bane
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i wish there was a way to control case fan speed based on gpu temps

proud trellis
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doesnt msi afterburner work too , pretty sure someone told me

supple bane
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be fucked if i know lol

hardy storm
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get some Prime95 spun up and watch those temps skyrocket.

supple bane
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i spent ages trying to find a way

storm osprey
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pretty sure some gpus come with a 4 pin that you can connect fans to for that

supple bane
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blegh, thats too much effort

storm osprey
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its just plugging it in..

supple bane
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what?! changing where all my case fans are plugged in

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that would be a nightmare

storm osprey
supple bane
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ik, my gpu has a 4 pin on it too

storm osprey
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yea, i dont think its a popular feature, idk anyone that has ever used it

supple bane
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i wish there was a software way of doing it

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it wouldnt be hard lol. pull gpu temps and change the fan speed based on that

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just no one seems to have done it

molten coral
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CPU seems to be at low 30's when in idle

storm osprey
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i have an AIO for my 4790, its a non k so i cant even OC

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my highs are mid 50's

molten coral
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Mhh guess i'll play some BF see what my temps are when playing

supple bane
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without an oc my highs are high 40's

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i idle in the winter i sit at like 25c

glossy plinth
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i make a circle when applying thermal paste

molten coral
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8700k but kinda thinking about upgrading face

proud trellis
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why

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do you even stream ?

storm osprey
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8700k is 6c?

molten coral
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ye

proud trellis
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oh its 6 cores

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my bad

molten coral
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I want a 3080 too tbh

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Maybe next year when they will be more available

proud trellis
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lemme have ur 2080ti haHAA

molten coral
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I'm only getting 60 FPS in BF1 haHAA

proud trellis
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how tf

molten coral
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big screen

reef jackal
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I only get 30fps shhh

storm osprey
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what you need a 3080 for when you play runescape

reef jackal
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Console moment coolandgood

molten coral
proud trellis
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you play 1080p ?

molten coral
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Yeah

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Screen is 1080p

proud trellis
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i thought u played 1440p

supple bane
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well thats that equivalent of two 1080p monitors put together

molten coral
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No, never had 1440p

supple bane
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its higher res than 1440p and lower than 4k

proud trellis
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oh

supple bane
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in terms of pixel count

molten coral
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Yeah

proud trellis
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i think in 2021 xmas im gonna try and get a 1080p moniter

molten coral
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why

proud trellis
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because 1440p is shite for my card

supple bane
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dude you spent like 600 pound on that monitor, why would you replace it lol

proud trellis
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not replace it

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just get some 24 inch or something so i can play games with more fps

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i might not even have this computer by next year tbf

storm osprey
proud trellis
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when

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what

storm osprey
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i know someone here wanted a 1440p monitor for a gpu that wasnt gonna run it and i advised against it

molten coral
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Didn't he had his PC before he even joined this discord? weirdChamp

proud trellis
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yeah

storm osprey
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pc sure, but maybe not monitor

proud trellis
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i joined this discord in like july or something

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and i got this pc in may

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im gonna ring scan up tho on the weekend and do what ando said

storm osprey
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i must be mixing you up with someone else

proud trellis
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probs

storm osprey
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i know someone was in here asking about 1440p and their gpu wasnt good enough

proud trellis
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if u can find the message then sure it might be me but until then idk haHAA

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@molten coral is BF1 still active ?

molten coral