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untold tiger
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Drivers all up to date?

prime jasper
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yep

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trying custom res to see if that changes

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but i doubt it

untold tiger
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I'd try going into your Nvidia control panel and adjust everything for performance

prime jasper
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think its the 2700 if im honest

untold tiger
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2700 should murder BFV

prime jasper
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its bottlenecked it says online

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by like 30fps

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WELL 20

untold tiger
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I would disable SMT and try pushing the max boost clock across all 8 cores

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BFV's optimization is honestly just garbage

prime jasper
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this is for bf1

untold tiger
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Very poor multi-threaded support

prime jasper
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bfv is abit better tbh

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xD

untold tiger
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They're both non-ideal

prime jasper
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true battlefront 2 is fine

untold tiger
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What's your RAM frequency?

prime jasper
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3200

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from 3600

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16 timings

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3600 wont work with 2700

untold tiger
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But is it set to 3200? Most memory comes set to 2133 with tighter timings

prime jasper
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its factory 3600 thermaltake

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ive put it at 3200

untold tiger
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Did you manually fuck with timings?

prime jasper
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ryzen dram

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copied the safest

untold tiger
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I would just use the XMP profile

prime jasper
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else my timings would be 18 at 3200

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only have the option for 3600 at 18

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and 2700 series dont work past 3466 people have told me

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and i tried and kept crashing system

untold tiger
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It can, depending on your motherboard

prime jasper
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x470 asus rog gaming f

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ive tried

untold tiger
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First thing I would do is go into your Nvidia control panel

prime jasper
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thast?

untold tiger
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I'm at work right now, so I can't per se screen shot instructions

prime jasper
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ooh

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no worries

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done the performance there

untold tiger
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Scroll down more in that menu.

prime jasper
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yep

untold tiger
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But search BF1

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Go to application settings

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Versus global

prime jasper
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maximum performance

untold tiger
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Getting better FPS or less stutter out of poorly or weirdly optimized games is a bitch

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I mean look at Fallout 4

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Nothing, and I mean nothing will prevent your FPS from shitting the bed in downtown Boston

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you could have an i9 clocked at 5.2GHz across every core with a 2080 Ti

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It's going to drop from 160FPS to 28 no matter what

prime jasper
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true other games run spot on just battlefield series meh

untold tiger
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They need to start supporting Vulkan API or OpenGL

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DX is trash, honestly

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Too reliant on single-core performance.

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Vulkan will make an FX-8350 outperform an i7 of its day by putting those threads to work.

prime jasper
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hopefully soon enough they will start using it

untold tiger
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I mean look at what Vulkan is doing on the Switch, lol

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It allocates every core and thread and assigns them to a task, and then it uses your excess RAM as VRAM for lighter loads that require more precision, or it uses it as a data cache for texture streaming.

Basically Vulkan optimizes games the way game consoles are optimized - it puts everything to work.

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More developers should really start utilizing it. I mean look at what id Software has accomplished with the technology. They're pushing ridiculous amounts of polygons, textures, and effects while maintaining effortless FPS and virtually no latency.

prime jasper
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thats true

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well thanks for the help anyway stay safew

elder bane
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Appearantly PS5 will use 3D stacking modules on a single die

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Just wow

odd mason
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and with vulkan, they could bring it to linux

gloomy gyro
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This might be dumb, but should I enable v-sync even though I have g-sync?

west willow
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No

gloomy gyro
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By the way, what is A-XMP? I know XMP is used to make ram run at higher speeds

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I have enabled A-XMP and now it runs at 3200mhz instead of 2133mhz, butbI didnt touch any of the timings

west willow
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I think it's just a different name for the same thing, but that A-XMP is specifically AMD (motherboard and CPU)

gloomy gyro
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Oh ok

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That explains it

west willow
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I think it's called A-XMP in my BIOS as well

gloomy gyro
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My mobo is a msi b450m a pro vdh with ryzen 5 3600

west willow
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Yeah, have the same CPU and a slightly different mobo

gloomy gyro
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And I connected my fans to the PSU, using duct tape

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So they are always at full speed

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But is there a way to get more fan coonections to the mobo?

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Because only 1 fan in my PC is actually controlled

west willow
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You mean connecting more fans to the motherboard, than the amount of SYSFAN headers? No idea, there might be some splitters or something.

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Any second fan you would connect to it would turn at the same speed as the first

gloomy gyro
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Yeah, but I can only connect 1 fan to SYSFAN

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So I connected others to the PSU

solemn ruin
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Is a Gtx 1050 and a i5-7400 good enough to run BFV with good fps?

pallid silo
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How comes people always moan about premier pro crashing? :p I've never had mine crash lol

I'm watching premier pro cc vs davichi resolve videos :) as it would be nice to save 16 pound a month (student deal) as I only use premier pro as I use affinity photo for my photos

opaque saddle
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its weak for bfv

supple bane
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that will seriously struggle @solemn ruin

solemn ruin
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thought so

opaque saddle
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expect getting 70fps max

supple bane
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pffht

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no

solemn ruin
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hm

opaque saddle
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low settings

solemn ruin
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constant warning for low framerate while in-game

supple bane
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i had a 1060 and a 7400. and iirc i got 55 fps on lowest settings

opaque saddle
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coz i got a 960 (powerful than 1050)

solemn ruin
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normal warning on training PvP maps

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severe + crash on large maps

supple bane
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the 7400 was the bottleneck when i had it

opaque saddle
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bfv with 3600 gets 80% cpu usage

pallid silo
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@opaque saddle 960 is like a 1050ti not 1050

opaque saddle
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@pallid silo read what i said

pallid silo
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@opaque saddle I did read it xd

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Powerful than 1050?

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That means same as 1050

opaque saddle
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not quite

pallid silo
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Oh xd

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My 960 was better than a 1050ti but a few fps

opaque saddle
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on average 7% faster

pallid silo
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Coz I overckicked

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Clocked

opaque saddle
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bf1 is like 10% faster

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well thats card in general

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not talking about the fastest 960 vs slowest 1050ti

pallid silo
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Makes sense haha

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How comes people always moan about premier pro crashing? :p I've never had mine crash lol

I'm watching premier pro cc vs davichi resolve videos :) as it would be nice to save 16 pound a month (student deal) as I only use premier pro as I use affinity photo for my photos p.s I also record in h265

pallid silo
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Just need some advise how should I go about making videos? Buy a camera and a laptop to edit them on? Or just film on my phone and edit on phone? (Android)

This is for travel videos in a few years gonna take a gap year and travel the world

sinful mantle
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I'm just now looking into that myself. If you went phone you should snag a free or low cost video editing software program and use your laptop ...at least for ease of use...Also there are some great cameras available these days with stereo mics built in for example.

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i took off sailing a few years ago ...have fun wolf

supple bane
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it really depends on the quality of video you want to make @pallid silo

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obviously just a mobile phone is many times smaller than a laptop and camera. but at the cost of quality.

pallid silo
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@supple bane found this gonna go for it Canon PowerShot SX740 HS Black

ashen flax
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@solemn ruin gt 730 here with i5-2400

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smooth 20 fps lowest setting 720p

supple bane
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You call that smooth ?

ashen flax
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yes

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i mean

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i still get 2.1 kda

supple bane
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I'd rather just not play

ashen flax
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i already bought it tho
soo...

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waste of money if u didn't actually play it

supple bane
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Yeah you do you. But I would have headaches if I played at 20 fps

ashen flax
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oh

supple bane
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Yeah, I tried to play generation zero but I only got like 25 fps and I felt like I was going to puke 20 minutes in

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So 20 fps would certainly be unplayable for me

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Gotta have that sweet sweet 100 fps or more

latent light
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@ashen flax wtf even a used Xbox One from 2013 runs BFV insanely better than that

ashen flax
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@latent light what did u expect from gt 730 lol

latent light
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GT 730 is for Minecraft and Terraria

solemn ruin
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I'm just going to buy an extra GPU bar, surely the same as the one I have atm

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to get 16 GB

supple bane
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i assume you meant to say ram. not gpu

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and no, that wont help

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ram is certainly not your problem lol

prime jasper
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@supple bane you are pro in bfv 2.54

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Kd

supple bane
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thats not that good lol

ashen flax
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@latent light not everyone have money to buy beter gpu
few just give up and the rest play with "smooth" bellow 60 fps

west willow
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I would say 20 fps isn't playble, but you do you

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Below 30fps is basically a slideshow, not even a hint of smoothness

kind kiln
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Then almost every movie is a slideshow according to You

west willow
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Watching a movie and playing a game isn't the same thing. Wouldn't want to play a game at 24fps

kind kiln
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Me neither

supple bane
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And you would be amazed what difference that 4 fps is

west willow
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It's more a feeling, than visually (for example when aiming)

kind kiln
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Imo films are a $!& slideshow

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I only watch 60fps films

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My eyes bleed when I watch anything below 60fps

prime jasper
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my eyes bleed anything below 180 fps

supple bane
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thats nice

solemn ruin
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Which one do I need to change for BFV:
GPU (Gtx 1050)
or
CPU (i5-7400)

supple bane
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gpu

solemn ruin
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what would you recommend

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for an ASUS G11CD

supple bane
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how much cash you got to spend ?

solemn ruin
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idk

supple bane
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welp. a 2080ti then

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need a budget to recommend a part

solemn ruin
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let's say

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uhh

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400 euros

supple bane
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you can get a gpu and cpu for that

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there is no point spending 400 on a gpu with that cpu

solemn ruin
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i'm pretty sure a 2080ti wouldn't fit

supple bane
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i was joking

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@solemn ruin

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that would be a nice upgrade

solemn ruin
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is changing my CPU really needed?

supple bane
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wait what cpu do you have ?

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oh you have an i5 7400 and a 1050

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i confused you with someone else lol

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yeah well, its fine for most games, just not bfv

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i used to have an i5 7400 and it bottlenecked the shit out of my old 1060 on bfv

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but yeah you need to change your gpu still. i would recommend and rx 580 for that cpu

solemn ruin
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the thing is

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from what i see on the ASUS site

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is that there are only wacky GPUs compatible with my G11CD

supple bane
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no. if it has a pcie x16 slot. it will support all gpu's

solemn ruin
supple bane
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yeah

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it will support all gpu's

solemn ruin
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o

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you sure about that?

supple bane
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100%

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i can prove it to you. give me one moment

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wait its a prebuilt system

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hmm. that might complicate things slightly

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the power supply might not have the needed pins and it may not have the needed clearance

solemn ruin
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how do i check if my PC has the x16 slot?

supple bane
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it does

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you sent a screenshot above

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besides. if it has a gtx 1050 in, then it has a x16 slot

solemn ruin
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hm

supple bane
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send me a link to your exact pc

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the website you used to get those screenshots

solemn ruin
supple bane
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yeah idk. an rx 580 will most likely work.

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but at the same time. there are some things that may mean it cant

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mainly the power supply

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there is a good chance that it wont have the needed pins for a bigger gpu

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since the 1050 doesnt require dedicated power

solemn ruin
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i never checked what power supply I have lol

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hmm

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300-500 W

supple bane
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that doesnt help

solemn ruin
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e

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with the rx 580 the average fps would be around 40

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which doesn't really change my situation

supple bane
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no it would be higher than that

solemn ruin
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50

supple bane
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1080p medium settings would net you 80 fps

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1080p ultra would still break 60

latent light
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@solemn ruin you need more than a 4 core CPU to play BFV smooth

solemn ruin
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suggestion?

latent light
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@solemn ruin the best CPU you can put in your motherboard is the i7-7700 and that costs $300 which is an absolute rip off for a 4 core that only has Hyperthreading as a feature over the i5-7400

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I would suggest looking for a Ryzen 5 1600 or 2600 and a B450 MAX motherboard

solemn ruin
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Okay thanks

storm osprey
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new 3300x or 3100 (forget the names) match 7700k in performance

robust basin
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@solemn ruin you need more than a 4 core CPU to play BFV smooth
@latent light can I assume you mean threads? Most people run smoothly with 4 cores. I have an older i7-4790 w/1080 gtx - getting 90-100 frames and always smooth.

pallid silo
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whats your must need apps on android/iphone?

mine are:

whatsapp
firefox
starling
snapchat
twitter
spotify
YT studio
instagram

latent light
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@robust basin that's a 4 core with 8 threads tho

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i7-7700 has Hyperthreading

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Better to just get a 6 core with 12 threads and a new motherboard for cheaper than a 3 year old i7 on a dead platform

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Ryzen 5 1600AF goes for $85
B450 Gaming Plus MAX motherboard is $99

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$185 for a good CPU and motherboard

vocal crater
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Don't forget the Ram

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As the 4th Gen still used DDR3 Ram.
16 GB 3200MHz DDR4 Ram would probably cost him like $70

supple bane
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he doesnt need that ram

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2x4gb of 2666-3000mhz ram would do fine

vocal crater
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Depends on the Game, as 8GB can be more than just tight

supple bane
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no the fps difference between the two in gaming is minimal

west willow
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8GB is on the low side, if you pick 8GB now you'll need to upgrade in the near future

vocal crater
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Jup

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Especially if he would like to do other stuff while Gaming, like Streaming or something similar

supple bane
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oh sorry. it was 12gb that had similar performance to 16gb

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ma bad

west willow
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Yeah, just look at the 1 and 0.1% lows. It's clear 12GB is enough for most (except for some heavily modded ones), but 8 is struggling a lot. The only thing is that 12Gb isn't an amount I would buy. 3*4GB

vocal crater
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Even if you would buy 8+4 Sticks, it doesn't make sense for the price

west willow
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8+4 wouldn't give you dual channel or would it?

vocal crater
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It would give you dual channel

west willow
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As long as they have the same speed and timings, I guess

vocal crater
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From what i see on PCPartpicker it would cost you $60 if you would go with 8+4 Sticks 3000MHz with the same timings

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For $10 more you have the 16GB 3200MHz

west willow
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Doesn't make sense to go for 12 then

vocal crater
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Jup, i mean it would make sense if you already have 1x8 GB and need a cheap & fast upgrade, but buying it from scratch PeepoNo

supple bane
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32gb of ram is just useless tho for the avid gamer

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there is only 1 game which i am aware of that will use 32gb of ram. and thats 7 days 2 die

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when modded, that puppy will suck 20gb of ram

vocal crater
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Just look at Flight Simulator 2020. Their "ideal" Ram amount is 32GB

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Recommended is 16, but minimum is 8 & minimum is real oof if you look for the other specs

opaque saddle
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nah not only one. a couple of games that can use 32gb of ram

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cities skylines is quite ram demanding

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it uses 29GB of ram with the mods at high settings, otherwise 21gb at lowest

latent light
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New rumor that the AM5 socket will be LGA

vocal crater
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Wouldn't trust that too much

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The only things we know so far from their internal Roadmap is that they want to use DDR5 Ram, PCIe Gen 4 & USB 4. But that's not for sure, as everything could change

latent light
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LGA is more expensive to manufacture but it decreases user error such as people dropping their CPU and damaging pins also prevents ripping the CPU out when taking off cooler

vocal crater
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Now you can drop your CPU onto the socket & fuck the pins on there shill

latent light
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Yeah pins on Intel motherboards are basically impossible to fix since they are hook shaped and very small

vocal crater
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It is so much simpler to fix the Pins on the Ryzen CPUs [Can confirm, my Ryzen 5 1600X was shipped with bend pins]

latent light
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I wonder how that happens

vocal crater
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DHL

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Never trust that fuckers

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They probably throw your package from the 5th floor into the truck

latent light
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How could the pins bend inside the package

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The box would have to be crushed by a vehicle lol

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Probably an error from staff

west willow
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Or it really got crushed, you never know with DHL

latent light
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Was the Ryzen box destroyed?

vocal crater
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It wasn't even in the form of a box anymore

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And don't get me started on the poor stock cooler

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It didn't even see any usage that poor thing

latent light
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Was it broke into pieces

vocal crater
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The better question would be : "What wasn't broken"

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And since that moment i have never used DHL again

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I mean the Ryzen worked after i fixed it & never made any problems. But still

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They probably drove over with the truck after they tossed the package out of the 5th floor onto the concrete and be like : Pongus Oh we forgot that package

west willow
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The 5th floor is pretty generous

vocal crater
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Ah sorry, 50th floor

violet plank
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i have once seen a proper DHL delivery,guess that was the first and last at the same time haHAA

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worst company ever

vocal crater
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i have once seen a proper DHL delivery,guess that was the first and last at the same time haHAA
This is a lie kek

violet plank
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maybe it was that guys first day OMEGALUL

vocal crater
prime jasper
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i need help

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when i run or walk in battlefield V

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i get yeeted backwards

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how do i fix this

molten bramble
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errant cairn
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@prime jasperhigh ping could be a reason

supple bane
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yeah sounds like you have poor connection

prime jasper
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Om

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Ok

latent light
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Nvidia is gonna do a pre-recorded keynote about new products through youtube, no livestream

storm osprey
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wack

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these are likely the professional gpus right?

latent light
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Probably

prime jasper
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hello

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does anyone have solutions

storm osprey
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@prime jasper only thing i can recommend is to repair files, reinstall, reformat storage and redownload everything

prime jasper
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yeah i repaired

storm osprey
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ive had some friends have situations where they tried all the fixes and nothing worked, but they cleaned the drive and started fresh and it worked

prime jasper
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lol

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on mw

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my game runs amazing

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on siege

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games runs amazing

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its just bf5

storm osprey
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well bf5 does run worse that those games

prime jasper
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yeah

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bf5 has a performance problem

molten bramble
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Make sure to add your games to the exclusion list for scans as well on W10 @prime jasper. Reference:

prime jasper
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why?

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can anyone reccomend any good graphical settings

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for better performance

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other than low

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like

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a mix of settings

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ffr on

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vsync off

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ok

storm osprey
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better performance/visibility is basically low/off everything honestly

viral ibex
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does anyone also has the problem that bfv is crashing after you play like 15 min?

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reinstalled BFV and origin it did not help

prime jasper
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could be a thermal or overclocking issue

viral ibex
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no other games are running fine

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and thermal are in the 50th

latent light
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I've noticed I get more frametime consistency and less frame spikes with V-sync on

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Turning it off it feels like constant microstuttering

prime jasper
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i got a gysnc monitor tho

storm osprey
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vsync on anything but single player casuals games 🤮

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input lag is one of my biggest pet peeves

prime jasper
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thats everyone bro

storm osprey
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some people dont know though

untold tiger
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I don't find the Vsync input lag to be THAT bad most of the time.

storm osprey
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i havent used it in years so i might try it again

untold tiger
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I'm still stuck at 60Hz for the time being, so the smoothness I get from it is still beneficial for me.

supple bane
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ew

untold tiger
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I know, but that'll change soon.

storm osprey
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my in game performance > just about everything else

hollow hornet
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How do you check whether a graphics card is compatible with your pc tower?

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I want to add a 1080ti to my pc which currently has an integrated gpu

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It has spare graphics card slots

latent light
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@hollow hornet gotta know what CPU and power supply you have as well

hollow hornet
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Hmm where do I find my power supply? It's not in advanced settings anywhere I can ser

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Is there a page on NVIDIA's site where you can see if your pc is compatible?

latent light
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You have to take off the left side panel of the tower

hollow hornet
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Thxs

latent light
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What PC do you have

hollow hornet
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It's an old uni work pc

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It has 32gb ram and a good cpu

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But a terrible integrated graphics card

storm osprey
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integrated like intels igpu?

latent light
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Open task manager and click on the performance tab

hollow hornet
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Yeah an I-4400 I think

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I can play bf5 on it barely

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But it gets like no fps so

storm osprey
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youre playing bfv off a cpu?

hollow hornet
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I mean I have an integrated gpu

latent light
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You need a dedicated graphics card

hollow hornet
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It's just below minimum specs

storm osprey
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ohh ok

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i thought you were saying you were playing off the intel igpu only

hollow hornet
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Also, is your Origin messing up for either of you?

storm osprey
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im like.. no shit you have bad fps im surprise it even runs xD

hollow hornet
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Last few days it's been randomly opening

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Lots of other ppl have the same problem too

storm osprey
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what is the gpu in it?

hollow hornet
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Intel-4400

latent light
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That integrated Intel graphics that's built into the CPU itself

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It's not designed to play games at all lol

supple bane
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What cpu is it?

storm osprey
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4400 right?

hollow hornet
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I can't remember off the top of my head and im not at my pc now sry

supple bane
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I thought that was the gpu.

hollow hornet
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The GPU is an I-4400

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But the cpu is fine

latent light
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It's definitely a Haswell CPU

hollow hornet
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It's above minimum specs and the pc has 32gb ram

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It's an old work pc so they didn't think a graphics card was highly needed

latent light
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Haswell is Intel's 4th generation

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So could be a i7-4790 or a Xeon CPU

supple bane
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It's a 2013 cpu. There is 0 point putting a 1080ti in there

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If it's an i7, maybe

latent light
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32GB ram in a work PC makes me think it has a Xeon CPU in it

hollow hornet
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Why wouldn't it work with an i-7

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1080 cards are quite old

supple bane
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No. Pairing a 1080ti with a shitty cpu is a waste

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It would be bottlenecked like crazy

storm osprey
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if hes not on 1080p it would be fine

supple bane
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No.

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4k, sure

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1440p would still cause issues tho

storm osprey
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i play on 1440p with a 4790

hollow hornet
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Idc about resolution

storm osprey
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average benchmarks at 1440 with my cpu vs modern cpus is barely any different

supple bane
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Yeah but as grim said. There is a good chance he is on a xeon

storm osprey
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@hollow hornet the lower the resolution the more depending gaming is on your cpu

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thats the concern

hollow hornet
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Just being able to fight would be nice

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Hmm

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Ok

supple bane
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If it is a xeon. I would be willing to bet a 1060 would get similar performance to if it had a 1080ti

storm osprey
#

i doubt that extreme of a change

latent light
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There's a chance that the power supply he has doesn't have PCIE cables for a graphics card

supple bane
#

Depends if it is pre built or it was built by the company he got it from

hollow hornet
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Can you post pictures in here?

supple bane
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No

hollow hornet
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Hmm :/

storm osprey
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i mean, WE CAN

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but you cant

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#regularflex

hollow hornet
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Wacism

latent light
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Work PC that runs on integrated graphics but has 32GB ram and a i7/Xeon is likely gonna have a <300w power supply

hollow hornet
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What's the step down from a 1080ti?

storm osprey
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1080

supple bane
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2070

hollow hornet
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I thought that was basically the normal card

supple bane
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1080 has been replaced by the 2070

storm osprey
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1080ti is an old card

supple bane
#

But officially the step down is the 1080 yes

latent light
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Look into a GTX 1650 with GDDR6 and no PCIE cable requirement @hollow hornet

storm osprey
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1080TI not worth buying in US market since they sell for about 400 last i saw

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and a new 2070 super is the same price but slightly better performance, for 400

latent light
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2070 super is 500

supple bane
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600 here face

storm osprey
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maybe its 500 1080ti usd and 2070 super 500

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i just remember them being the price, 2070 being better and new

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yea 500 for both, but 2070 super is better and brand new/newer

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no reason to get 1080ti unless you get an out of normal deal or already have one

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certainly dont buy one new/used for 450+

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ffs of course they are EU

supple bane
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But again. 100% your power supply isnt strong enough for any of the cards above

hollow hornet
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How do you improve your power supply? Get a better cpu?

supple bane
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No

storm osprey
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you get a better psu

supple bane
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Power supply is a component just like the cpu

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To get a better power supply unit. You buy a new power supply unit

hollow hornet
#

How much power do CPUs use then

storm osprey
#

When asking for a build or build advice, answer the following questions in your post:

  1. What's your budget/currency and country of purchase? Any preferred physical/online shops?
  2. Gaming? Streaming? What's your resolution/FPS targets? What games are you playing?
  3. Not gaming or professional/hobby use cases? What are the applications you will use and workload involved? Kindly elaborate as much as possible.
  4. What else do you need to buy? (monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, speakers, Windows, WiFi)
  5. Anything else you want to tell us? RGB, Small Form Factor, already have a part list? Tell us!
  6. If you have a build list and are looking for a second opinion or are upgrading an existing system, please have a PCPartPicker permalink for it (https://pcpartpicker.com/list)
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if you could answer those this would help

hollow hornet
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Um basically less than £250

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And it just needs to play bf5 at 20fps+

storm osprey
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i assume you have a 1080p 60hz monitor?

hollow hornet
#

Thanks

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Yeah

supple bane
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That will net you at least 40-50 fps I would hope

hollow hornet
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:O that's pretty good

storm osprey
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could just upgrade psu and get a gpu with remainder of money

hollow hornet
#

I mean I have plenty of money I just don't want to spend it all

storm osprey
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idk shit about xeon cpus if it is one though

supple bane
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Nyphon.. considering he thought to upgrade the psu, you had to change the cpu. You really think he will have the ability to change the psu out? Lol

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No offence btw

hollow hornet
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Why would the CPU affect the possible power? Is it just an indication of how good the psu is, or do different level CPUs use different amounts of power

supple bane
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Not everyone is a nerd

storm osprey
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i mean, its a youtube video and 1 hour later kind of scenario

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@hollow hornet not only power draw but i personally dont know if server cpus/mbs havent any special scenarios

latent light
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@hollow hornet do you know if a graphics card can fit into the tower, is it a slim build?

hollow hornet
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No it's a normal tower size

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I'll take the side off tomorrow

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And have a look

storm osprey
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could do something like this

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oh shit scratch that, that psu more exensive in uk than i thought

latent light
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Yeah could get a new power supply as well

storm osprey
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50 bucks more seems worth it (not including tax, well idk how EU works, dont they include tax?)

hollow hornet
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They include tax in prices

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Will the 1650 need a 300W supply?

latent light
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I'll post a very specific 1650 that doesn't require power cable

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Some models use one and some don't

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The best graphics card that doesn't use a PCIE cable

hollow hornet
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Thanks

storm osprey
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1650 is what you can do with out adding psu

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If you plan on ever continuing gaming on pc I recommend getting a psu and something better than 1650 now

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You can get a 570 or 580 for better performance

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But needs that psu

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If ever you want to do anything pc gaming in the future a psu is a must

latent light
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Went from tech to technology

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:o!!!!!!!!!!

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Mind blowing

mild bough
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Holy moly

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Who named this to technology?

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But anyone know a GPU that would be good for rendering?

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And GFX and CGI and stuff

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like that

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@supple bane do you know any?

supple bane
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errrrr

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depends on what you are renderingg

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you have a 2070 right ? that would be fine

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some programs use your cpu to render too

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Fusion 360 is an example of that

mild bough
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yes, but i'm getting a new gpu for rendering

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and man my 2070 ain't holdin up lol

supple bane
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wait.

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wdym?

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your a kid. why you buying a new gpu just for rendering lmao?

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whats wrong with your 2070?

quaint topaz
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and man my 2070 ain't holdin up lol
How? What are you rendering

elder bane
#

Multi million dollars CGI animation framework or something GWcorbinMonkaGIGA

hollow hornet
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Yeah I've got an i7-4790 3.6GHz cpu

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And Intel HD graphics 4600

supple bane
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take the side panel off your case. and dm me a picture of the inside

hollow hornet
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Ty will do later

molten bramble
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and man my 2070 ain't holdin up lol
@mild bough Huh? I render in 3DS and Premiere just fine, what are y'all doing wrong?

torn tangle
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How du you enter an clantag in BF/Origin?

errant cairn
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Open the battlefield menu, go to platoons, enter the name of any clan/platoon you want to join @torn tangle

storm osprey
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sounds like they want to make a clantag moreso join a clan

torn tangle
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thanks

errant cairn
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There's the tab next to it, I forgot what it was called, you can make your own clan/platoon, choose a tag for it which is just the ToW badges or something (people used to make offensive and deragotory pics for their tags in BF1, BF4 and other titles) and you can also add a description

hollow hornet
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You can't uninstall integrated graphics cards right

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Like the Intel HD graphics 4600

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That's just part of the CPU basically isn't it

molten coral
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Yes, it's part of the CPU

storm osprey
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still havent figured out what to do pumble?

prime jasper
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you can disable it in device manager

storm osprey
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afaik he only has the igpu, no dedicated gpu, so wouldnt that stop his display?

prime jasper
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well yes in that case

hollow hornet
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Hey who's on who can help me with my pc?

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I've taken the side off

storm osprey
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just post it

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use image sharing site or DM me and ill post it

hollow hornet
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Nvm someone helped but ty

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Apparently I need a new psu as well as a graphics card

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Cuz mine's only 250W

storm osprey
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thats what we told you!

sinful mantle
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"technology" meaning we can drift away from PC's to astrophysics?

storm osprey
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sounds like nerdy shit to me

molten coral
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People think this is a support channel

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow hornet
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How big are graphics cards? Cuz they look huge

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Im not sure if ive got space in my tower/where theyd go

sinful mantle
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no tech support? damn

storm osprey
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@hollow hornet they vary

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typical sizes for gaming gpus

molten coral
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15-30 cm

odd goblet
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Kinda looking for headsets that can have multiple inputs but for not too big of a price.

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I have sort of an affinity for Logitech

storm osprey
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multiple input headset?

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like 3.5mm or usb optional?

odd goblet
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Yeah

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Right now, I have G432s

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and for some reason Amazon is saying Playstation 4 controllers are multi-source headsets

storm osprey
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uhhh idk many headphones like that honestly

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thought im a slight audiophile so usb is basically a no go

supple bane
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need chair

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any recommendations ?

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i need more of inspiration rather than recommendations, because im not ordering a chair without sitting in it first

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i was thinking of either the corsair t1 or the atom gt

storm osprey
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we have a store called stapled, idk what you have

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but they have a popular mesh chair called the hyken

supple bane
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yeah we have staples too

storm osprey
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try staples hyken

supple bane
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i checked for that, because i saw you mention it

storm osprey
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my fiance has it and i really like it

supple bane
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it isnt sold here

storm osprey
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WACK

odd goblet
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Personally, I would rather sit in a chair and make my decision on that

supple bane
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i love the styling on both the atom gt and the corsair t1

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and i have sat in the corsair t1 and im a big fan

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but its super pricy

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and the worrying thing with the atom gt is that it is an exlusive to a company called abrocco

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and ive never heard of them

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and this is their address...

storm osprey
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lul

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im like "anti gamer" aesthetic so

supple bane
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yeah thats why i like the corsair t1

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because while it has that nice bucket seat style

odd goblet
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I might be getting the G633 Artemis

supple bane
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its minimalistic

storm osprey
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its not overly flashy

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its like a tame gamer chair

supple bane
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i think that looks awesome

storm osprey
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yea its just a blacked out gamer chair

odd goblet
molten coral
supple bane
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my brother has a real set of bucket seats lul. and i did reasearch if there was a way i could put those on coasters

molten coral
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its pretty ok

storm osprey
odd goblet
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Anyone have any thoughts on the G633 or no?

storm osprey
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that looks suggestive AF

supple bane
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but he wouldnt let me have them as he is PutTiNg ThEM In HiS New Car BuIlD

storm osprey
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@odd goblet im generally unimpressed with gamer headsets, sound quality is usually meh and mic typically meh or sucks

odd goblet
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While the quality is part of the reason, another part of the reason is that it says I can listen to different inputs at once and talk.

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However I am going to do more... ya know, learning

teal stirrup
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Wtf

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Most comfortable chair

odd goblet
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By the way, I like that this has lights on the back of the headset, so you won't see them when wearing them at all lol

odd goblet
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What I am trying to really do is be able to listen to music from my Computer or some other device while being able to use my mic and hear game audio through my xbox.

I am just not sure if a splitter will allow me to use my microphone into the computer or the Xbox.

hollow hornet
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What power PSU would you recommend/what PSU would you need to use with say a GTX 1050Ti?

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That needs 300W power

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How much would you need for your cpu as well?

storm osprey
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im in the camp that if you can afford to get something that would mean you wouldnt have to upgrade later you do it now

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yes a 400w psu will cover a lot of low to medium range psus, but in the chance you go higher than that you suddenly have to buy another psu

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something like a 600w psu would cover A LOT of single gpu systems

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and cost maybe 20-30 more than a similar quality 400w psu

molten coral
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im in the camp that if you can afford to get something that would mean you wouldnt have to upgrade later you do it now
I'm in the same camp, it usually saves a lot of money.

storm osprey
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i did the "good enough" with my first build, i basically replaced every component in my pc within a year or 2

molten coral
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Lol I did the same except for the 970 I had

storm osprey
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yea i think i replaced absolutely everything...

molten coral
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I was on a 750 euro budget and got kinda the lowest of the lowest quality products you could get

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except for the GPU

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I still have a picture somewhere

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Looks good right? Kappap

storm osprey
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is that a micro atx MB in a mid case?

hollow hornet
#

Where are THE LEDS?!

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It better be rainbow coloured 😤

molten coral
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I didn't know shit about PC's back then

storm osprey
#

jesus

molten coral
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I was playing BF4 ''smoothly'' yeah

supple bane
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I too got ripped off for my pc

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Paid 700 pounds (pound 900 dollars) and got a 4 core 3ghz cpu and a gtx 1060

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Didn't even have an ssd

hollow hornet
#

Ay get rekt bois

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I stole my pc

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Even if it is shite

supple bane
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I've had my pc for 3 years and I've replaced everything except the power supply

hollow hornet
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Well when I say stole it's... More I borrowed it

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Except they forgot they had it

supple bane
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Your cpu isnt that bad pumble

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An i7 4790 still does the job

hollow hornet
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Eh I suppose it's got an ok cpu and 32gb ram

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Just I gotta spend £300 on a PSU and graphics card and hope I don't break anything

supple bane
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Spend a few hours watching videos man

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There are loads of good guides on youtube

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That will run you through everything

molten coral
#

ree why do all laptops around 1500-2000 look like a ''gamer'' laptop

storm osprey
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@hollow hornet for gaming your cpu should be fine in a lot of title honestly

supple bane
#

Bfv is actually the one game on the planet it will have a hard time with ngl lol

hollow hornet
#

^ Nacho I don't understand why no gaming laptops just... Look like normal laptops

storm osprey
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they gotta say "gamer"

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also they are normally bigger for more components/better cooling

molten coral
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I really wanna get the new XPS 15 but on the other hand I hate having dongles

supple bane
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Dell xps 15 is about 2k right

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Oh yeah hehe

molten coral
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New XPS 15 has a 16:10 display pretty pog

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but only 2 or 4 thunderbolt/ubs c ports

supple bane
#

I mean, what about a razer blade stealth?

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That isnt too "gamery"

molten coral
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Kinda looking for a laptop with a LAN port

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I need that for my study

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I mean I can use dongles but on the other hand at some point that will get annoying

storm osprey
#

i cant ever imagine seeing myself getting a laptop

hollow hornet
#

My sister has MacBook 🤢

molten coral
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I prefer not getting a laptop at all but I'll need it

hollow hornet
#

I don't think I can ever imagine getting an apple product

molten coral
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I'm still oldschool and use pen and paper

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with most things

hollow hornet
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Actually 1 of my sisters has a MacBook and both of them have iMacs

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Disgostang

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At least they don't have iphones

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Could be worse

storm osprey
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@hollow hornet but that iphone se 2020

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iphone 11 is my 2nd apple product i bought

hollow hornet
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2nd? Oh how the mighty have fallen...

storm osprey
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first was ipod nano, 2nd is my current iphone 11

hollow hornet
#

There's an iPhone 11 now?

storm osprey
#

yea

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came out fall 2019 iirc

prime jasper
#

hi

hollow hornet
#

Huh I thought they'd at least start a new series after the wierd iPhone X thing

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Hai

storm osprey
#

though the iphone se 2020 is exactly the same internals but an old iphone 8 look for 400 bucks

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IE: iphone se 2020 is the best bang for buck phone out

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especially for the longevity of ios on phones

#

my friend has an iphone 5c that he stopped getting updates for a couple of years ago

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i think he safely got 5+ years of updates

hollow hornet
#

My current phone is like 3 years old

#

It's doing pretty well

storm osprey
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hardware wise yea im sure they do

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just most android brands stop doing updates fairly quick

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i know my 200-300 budget moto g line stopped updated fairly fast

hollow hornet
#

Huh I'm using a Moto g5

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And it still gets system updates

storm osprey
#

likely just security updates

hollow hornet
#

Ooh

storm osprey
#

thats the phone i had before my iphone 11

hollow hornet
#

While I'm in a. Tech channel

#

What does a corrupted sd card do

#

I tried repairing it but it wouldn't do anything

storm osprey
#

wont access files on that sd card

hollow hornet
#

Im fairly sure it's missing some calls I get?

storm osprey
#

your sd card affecting calls?

hollow hornet
#

Idk

#

Something is

storm osprey
#

im no phone guru but that makes no sense to me

hollow hornet
#

I'm blaming that cuz I know it's broken

storm osprey
#

you have a sim card

molten coral
#

SD cards doesn't effect your calls

storm osprey
#

which kind of looks like an sd card

hollow hornet
#

Ah wait sim card sry

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SD card is the backup files one

hollow hornet
#

Yeah I got confused

storm osprey
molten coral
#

July is gonna be expensive

storm osprey
#

whys that?

molten coral
#

New phone, new laptop, books for my study, scooter

storm osprey
#

oof

#

what phone you getting?

#

moto edge?!

molten coral
#

Noooo

#

Note 10+ I think

hollow hornet
#

Ooh what scooter

storm osprey
#

you like note phones huh?

molten coral
#

Yeah

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i'm a big fan

#

I don't even use the s pen that much but note phones are overall super solid

storm osprey
#

hmmm

#

im a soft phone user so even this iphone 11 is a bit much

molten coral
#

I don't even use my phone that much tbh

storm osprey
#

80% charge on my base iphone 11 will last me 2-3 days xD

molten coral
#

I usually last 2 days

hollow hornet
#

I usually charge my phone at least once a day 😶

#

But then again I do use it all da time

storm osprey
#

yea my moto g 5 was on its last battery legs

molten coral
#

Only good thing is I don't really have to spent money on the scooter as i'm selling my car atm

hollow hornet
#

:O

#

Aww :(

storm osprey
#

i wish weather here was good for scooters

hollow hornet
#

Well it is now

#

It's lockdown

#

Moment it stops it'll be pouring again

storm osprey
#

i live in arizona, too hot 60% of the time

molten coral
#

eh weather is shit for around 250 days a year here

#

It's just much cheaper and even faster to go to college this way

#

If insurance wasn't super expensive I would have kept my car

storm osprey
#

do you live in one of those countries that makes owning a car STUUUUPID expensive?

molten coral
#

Yes

hollow hornet
#

Car insurance in the UK is pretty grim

#

Not sure what it's like in other places

molten coral
#

Currently I pay 95 euro a month for my car insurance and road tax is around 20

storm osprey
#

95 for 1 car?

molten coral
#

For a suzuki swift from 2007

storm osprey
#

wtfff

hollow hornet
#

Waaaat

#

Damn

storm osprey
#

we have 1 2017 civic ext and 1 2001 civic ex and for both of them our insurance is like 120

molten coral
#

It's only getting more every year for ''starters''

storm osprey
#

oof

#

how far do you have to drive to cross into the nearest country?

molten coral
#

Around an hour

hollow hornet
#

Ha

#

Drives into the sea

molten coral
#

I always go to germany to get my alcohol tbh

#

Saves me a lot of money + I can get gas for cheap

storm osprey
#

lol geeeesh

#

almot 4 hours for me to get to mexico

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which is actually closer than any state afaik

molten coral
#

lol

hollow hornet
#

Talking of saving money by travelling to another country

#

Switzerland has a ridiculous exchange rate

#

When we went there on holiday by the border we saw Swiss people travelling to other countries just for cheap shopping

prime jasper
#

We don't have it.

latent light
#

I pay $150 a month for car insurance

storm osprey
#

but youre american

latent light
#

🇺🇸

molten coral
#

I thought insurance was overall pretty cheap in the US

storm osprey
#

as long as youre over 23ish and dont have a record it is afaik

molten bramble
#

All hail our future digital overlords.

prime jasper
#

It makes so much sense it hurts

latent light
#

2022 for DDR5

#

Intel likely to beat AMD in the race to DDR5 by a few months

forest token
#

😦 I don't wanna wait that long

#

but if I buy a new comp in 2020 then by 2024 or so I might be ready for a new computer

haughty vessel
#

We DoNt HaVe ThE TeCh

supple bane
#

so original

charred basalt
#

tech have

storm osprey
#

bunch of sheeple

hollow hornet
#

Tech the have don't

storm osprey
errant cairn
#

What does this about?
Im confused @storm osprey

storm osprey
#

links have been deleted, someone spamming links to a facebook video or some shit

#

and then i had a typo

molten coral
storm osprey
#

xD

#

hopefully these new consoles are good value, ps4/xbox one really werent that great for a while

sinful mantle
#

with the newer gamepads (not controllers) having native mouse support consoles might just be viable

#

its liie $400 verses $2,000 investement

supple bane
#

commeee onn zeennn

#

a gaming pc doesnt cost 2k

sinful mantle
#

well yeah I paid $750 for this one

supple bane
#

800 prime time for a gaming pc

#

r6 2600 and 2060/1660ti

sinful mantle
#

but i have paid well over $2,000 in the past

#

but like if you can shell out $400 for a console w/ a $50 gamepad that has built in mouse support...that might be viable

supple bane
#

yeah, it would certainly appeal to a broader audience

#

but it then brings in one massive problem/question based around balance

#

how do you keep it a fair playing field with mouse players playing againts console players

molten coral
#

800 prime time for a gaming pc
Yeah but this is without, screen, mouse and keyboard.

supple bane
#

true, actually

molten coral
#

That is another 2/300

sinful mantle
#

what i was saying the console with gamepad(not controler) but gamepad would have a mouse

#

so youd have a console with mouse/keyboard as the game pad is essentially a keyboard with less keys

#

so maybe $450 dollar investment total

storm osprey
#

console need tv/monitor too

sinful mantle
#

already have those

#

plus already have mice

storm osprey
#

im just saying, its not an added cost for pc in the same sense that you need a tv for console

sinful mantle
#

another thing the newer gamepads will work with PC as well

molten coral
#

I'm gonna buy a new PS4 on june 19

sinful mantle
#

you gonna use a controler?

molten coral
#

Just wanna play the last of us 2

storm osprey
#

^

supple bane
#

i have a ps4 just sitting in my sitting room collecting dust, my only controller broke sooo

sinful mantle
#

id get a ps4 just to run grand turismo

storm osprey
#

my ps4 hasnt turned on in months...

#

just waiting for tloupt

supple bane
#

mine hasnt turned on in years bruv

sinful mantle
#

snag a $50 game pad granty

molten coral
#

I've a xbox controller for my PC but I just can't get used to it

supple bane
#

fuck that lol

#

i eint paying anything for that console

molten coral
#

the PS4 controller is just perfect

sinful mantle
#

Last controler i had was for ps1

supple bane
#

in 3 years ive turned it on twice, once on accident and once to see how bad my aim had gotten since i had moved to pc

molten coral
#

My aim with a controller is super bad nowadays

supple bane
#

i used to be pretty good. but once i had moved to mouse, it went downhill, very quick

molten coral
#

Meanwhile I used to play competitive on PS4 against the best people

supple bane
#

i tried to play cod zombies and i actually couldnt hit them

molten coral
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Now I can't even hit a camping turd on some hill while i'm close to him

supple bane
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i do have this magical little thing called an xim4 tho

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and i want a controller just so i can have a go with that again lmao

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it allows you to use a mouse on any console game

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tricks the console into thinking its a controller

astral merlin
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Probs going to play HZD with the controller

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When it releases on Steam

supple bane
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i want to try bf1 with it, and see how much i can kick ass againts console scrubs now lmao

sinful mantle
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@supple bane thats what i was on about

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there are several of those on the market theses days

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they are called game pads

supple bane
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yeah ive had this thing for years now

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its the real deal. you control it with your phone and the amount of customisation you have on their is mind blowing

sinful mantle
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so with one of those the new consoles will be a viable alternative to having to invest in a new PC just to play bf6

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i do believe we are all gonna need new machines for bf6

supple bane
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nah

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whilst games are getting more demanding , optimisation also is getting better

sinful mantle
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i might just agree with you in that this machine is optimized for bf4 but i can render bfv but not on ultra

supple bane
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You have a 960 right ?

sinful mantle
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but sooner or later you get hit with the mandatory upgrade stick...like when we went from single core processors to multi core.

molten coral
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It isn't that strange that a 5 year old videocard can't play games on ultra anymore.

sinful mantle
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dunno technology rolls on

supple bane
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My next upgrade will probably when 4000 series comes out

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Probably a 4070

sinful mantle
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that would probably when the new consoles and bf6 comes out....am I right?

supple bane
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It will be in about 3 years I think

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So much later than that

sinful mantle
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ahh

supple bane
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New consoles are coming out later this year and bf6 is 2021

sinful mantle
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so im thinking bf6 might be somewhat backwards compatible but anything after that will need a major tech upgrade?

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i was reading on EA site that they are gonna release bf6 when the consoles are released

supple bane
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I'd say a current gen, 20 series card would be good for bf7

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Maybe bf8

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Like a 70 series card can still get by on bfv

molten coral
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I hope I don't have to upgrade anything for atleast another 3/4 years.

sinful mantle
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well maybe cause my GTX 960 is still viable for 97 out of 100 AA games according to game debate stats

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im gonna have to probably when bf6 comes out

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i should also add the my AMD 8350 is as well still viable

molten coral
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I had a 1070 and I struggled with BFV mainly because of my screen tbh.

sinful mantle
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hell you could still use a AMD Phenom cpu if you had to

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So i have 3 PCs sitting on my desk...a AMD ATHLON64....a Phenom x4...and this AMDfx 8350

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all purchased for bf games...bf2,bf3 and bf4

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so i will either get my first console since ps1 or a new machine for bf6

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the console will have game pad w/mouse support

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thats if i dont have the funds for a new PC

terse hound
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I might need to upgrade for Battlefield NEXT

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I dont think my G4560 will be enough

astral merlin
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That... that is ancient

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If we’re talking about ultra settings for Battlefield

storm osprey
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technically ultra settings would help make performance more gpu bound so that would help

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but it being a 2c/2t cpu alone is a big yikes

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we would need a miracle if a 4c8t wasnt a minimum again like bfv is

supple bane
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Honestly

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I'd say ryzen 5 2600 or Intel equivalent would be minimum next game

prime jasper
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anyone else have terrible fps ona 2700

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bf1 and bfv low settings driving me insane lol

supple bane
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Gonna need more specs than that I'm afraid?

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Ram, gpu, resolution

prime jasper
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2070 super thermaltake 3600mhz down to 3466 cl16

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1080p

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165hz

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msi monitor

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16gb ram 2x 8gb

supple bane
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And what fps are you getting ?

prime jasper
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barely stable 100

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on bf1 low

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medium its about 80

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everything stable in oc wise as ran multiple tests my 3dmark scores at 10176

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ram no issues or anything

supple bane
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Try the other dx

prime jasper
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cpu is at 3.9ghz

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also

supple bane
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If you are using dx 11 use dx 12 and Vice versa

prime jasper
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alright 2 secs

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alot of stutters

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not really a improvement if im honest

supple bane
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Yeah dx 11 is gonna be better then

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You said you got 10k in 3d mark

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What test was that?

storm osprey
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i get like 100 fps on 1440p low xD

prime jasper
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dx12

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the demo one

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dx12 bf1 im seeing like 40% gpu usage lol

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and 50% cpu

fossil igloo
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Does direct x11 work with ray tracing?

strange lichen
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@fossil igloo no

fossil igloo
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damn it

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ray tracing made my game look bad and I think its cuz of driect x12

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fps was stable

prime jasper
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think if i can push my cpu to 4.2

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it will help fps wise

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because theres only a 6% bottleneck according to online with same cpu n gpu

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as 2700 cant go over 3400mhz else i blue screens

sweet aspen
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dx 12 better than dx 11 in bf5?
and does it sacrifice performance

prime jasper
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its better for some people

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and nope

sweet aspen
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when i turn it on, the main menu stutters a whole lot

prime jasper
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yeah it does for osme people when i had a 5700xt it was better

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then dx11

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what gpu you got

latent light
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I get around 80 fps average on ultra settings in 1080p with an RX 580 and R5 1600

prime jasper
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Nice

bright sigil
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why i cant join
Online login is currently unavailable.
but my friends can join ?
how is that ?

cobalt crypt
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are the bf5 servers down?

opaque saddle
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@lofty light you got a macbook pro 13" TB with 4 thunderbolt 3 slots right?

lofty light
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@opaque saddle ye why?

opaque saddle
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using the right side ports to charge your macbook to decrease temp

lofty light
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I really use whichever tbh

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The left would be the separate circuit board

opaque saddle
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i mean using the left side to charge the computer uses more power to kernel_task

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so it gets relatively warm

quaint topaz
molten coral
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but why

opaque saddle
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get rpi4 with 4gb of ram

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if you want performance

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but i wouldn't want the pi3a. i'd get either a 4 or 0

quaint topaz
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@molten coral Fun project

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I actually want to build my own DSLR at some point

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Just need someone to help me getting 3D printed body and buttons

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gonna hold off on that project until others start doing it so everything's there ready for me LUL

upper coral
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I just did heli mission and got really confused but after 9 try’s and a restart finally did it👍🤔🧐😎

maiden barn
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I have a theory. It seems that dice is giving a lot of time between now and the release of battlefield 6 ( late 2021). I have a gut feeling that we will see Frostbite 4, and return to greatness that we haven't seen since battlefield 4. The timeline seems to suggest that they are working on something big...

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thoughts?

quaint topaz
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It's just frostbite now lol

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They don't call it frostbite 3 anymore

maiden barn
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ill be honest sorta stopped playing around bf1, I did not like the direction they where heading, then bf5 just confirmed it.

quaint topaz
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BF1 has it's ups and downs. It definitely is one of my favorite games in the franchise.

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Then again, I love Hardline so my opinion obviously differs from the rest lul

maiden barn
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a bit different but I respect that. 4 was my favorite

quaint topaz
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4 is a great game

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There's no denying that

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I'm not so big on the current era/near future setting filled with heatseeking thermal bullshit but I can live with it haha