thats why i put it
#technology
supple bane
because to someone who doesnt understand wtf you are saying, it could be anything
including insulting each other
but i agree what you was doing wasnt that so
mild bough
yup, people with a completely different alphabet, like russians/chinese they could just say anything
sour ivy
ca ca
mild bough
loool
sour ivy
its french for poop
supple bane
SEE
mild bough
going to buy my gpu tommorow :p, how do i install it?
mild bough
lol
mild bough
it has 3 fans, is that good?
supple bane
yeah
then look where the gpu meets the case on the left, there is 2 or 3 small screws holding it into the case
supple bane
take them out
then where the gpu meets the motherboard there is a little latch
similar to ram
the latch on the socket for ram
you see it ?
supple bane
ill send a pic. lemme go find my phone
mild bough
okey dokey
supple bane
supple bane
no thats what hold the gpu in
supple bane
yeah
supple bane
once you press that in, the gpu will just pull out
supple bane
and then you just repeat but in reverse
mild bough
i thought it were kinda important that components didnt get grease
oh
do you build many pc's?
supple bane
i have built 4 or 5
mild bough
and, when the gpu falls out, do i just put my new in and it is plug and play?
supple bane
or built the same pc 4 or 5 times 
mild bough
you just modified it?
supple bane
yeah
i have changed motherboard like 5 times now
long story
back to the gpu
yeah, its just plug and play
mild bough
ok, but will anything different happen on startuP?
mild bough
what drivers?
supple bane
gpu drivers
mild bough
geforce experience and update?
supple bane
yeah, the ones in geforce experience
supple bane
its literally like 3 clicks
oh and i forgot to say, you have to take the power cord out the gpu
and put it back in the new one
mild bough
what is power cord?
supple bane
its the cable that comes out of the right side of the gpu
right side furthest away from the motherboard
mild bough
Ok
I will probably understand tommorow
when iget the gpu and will install it by myself
supple bane
it has a little latch on the bottom, you just press the latch in and pull it out
mild bough
i will become a legend
supple bane
also im free all day tomorrow so if you have any questions just dm me
mild bough
i will tell it to my grand children
supple bane
"yeah i took out a big hunk of metal and replaced it with a newer hunk of metal"
supple bane
i mean, if your internet is strong enough you can just video call me and i will walk you through it
supple bane
just saying this gpu is going to give you like a 100 fps increase lol
supple bane
what fps do you get now ?
sour ivy
what gpu did u get
sour ivy
wait really
supple bane
"nods head"
prime jasper
wont matter very much if he plays at 1440p or above
supple bane
i7 8700
prime jasper
why?
sour ivy
why what
supple bane
it looks ass 
prime jasper
were you the one with a blower card inside a crappy case with no airflow?
!stats
because you need to work on the latter first
prime jasper
!rank
sour ivy
its airflow is great now
supple bane
wrong chat
prime jasper
ok
supple bane
lul
prime jasper
prime jasper
wtf
supple bane
shits a little more than cocaine brudda
what is this streaming this all about ?
in discord
i have only just noticed it
ahh i see
interesting
this is cool
prime jasper
prime jasper
sometimes you have to have ugly to have quiet lol
mild bough
@supple bane I get average 40/50 fps with graphics on low and resolution scale at 85%, whenever much smoke or explosions come it goes down to 15
so yeah
prime jasper
yeah thats about right
sour ivy
Bring it up
mild bough
can i play forza horizon 4 on ultra?
supple bane
also i dont know if im allowed to stream apex in the battlefield streaming chats but im doing it anyway
mild bough
i am invincible
sour ivy
Are you streaming on twitch?
supple bane
no on the discord
mild bough
what
supple bane
scroll down to the bottom of the vc's
mild bough
can you stream on discrod
supple bane
yeah
mild bough
coool
supple bane
supple bane
what overlay ?
supple bane
i mean, i had a guy in here just and he said it was ok so
and its simple enough to use
just press stream and boom
i dont know if there is things like audio tho
something i want to find out
violet plank
you can mod easily mod noctua coolers,here is how mine looks
or if you are into more white
prime jasper
he was talking about GPU coolers lol
violet plank
just change the overs
covers
ah lol
zip tie noctua fans on the gpu
i really would love a rgb free gpu :/
sour ivy
That’d probably work better than the blower gpu cooling
Lmao
Just bought some cable extenders
For AESTHETIC
prime jasper
welcome to streaming, would you like fries with that?
supple bane
please
supple bane
its more sad knowing that anyone on pc can see me
litterally right there at the top of the vc's
violet plank
seems like lol
since there are black fans now,or you can use the industrial ones,no limits!
seems like an easy mount with those clips
sour ivy
Hmmm
violet plank
i'd love to try that,but when i'm gonna replace my 1080ti i wanna sell it lol
dunno if i can safely remove the cover from my card,but i guess should be possible
supple bane
what are the specs?
placid talon
whan i start playing and if the cpu is cool than it runs it on about 30 (on low settings) but after a couple mins the cpu gets up to 95°C and it runs csgo at 10 fps
XDXDXDXDXDX
prime jasper
lol yeah overheating like that
supple bane
how on earth does that cpu even get that hot ?
im pretty sure the ihs would be enough to keep that thing cool lolol
placid talon
(even tho the cpu utilisation is like a 95-100%)
placid talon
lol
its lifetime wont be long
tho
yea
if it was a pc i would just open it remove the heatsink and reaply some fresh thermal paste but
prime jasper
you can still open it up and reapply paste
it will still be old and slow...but maybe not as hot
placid talon
im planing to buy a better 1.3k laptop
prime jasper
or even better, get a desktop lol
sour ivy
laptops aint bad
sour ivy
way too much
placid talon
there is no cheaper one
placid talon
laptops are always to expensive
sour ivy
what country are you from
sour ivy
why are there so few options wtf
sour ivy
damn idk why theres so few options there
wait youre from germany @placid talon
or what
im so confused lol
placid talon
yes
sour ivy
@placid talon whats your budget
prime jasper
Hello guys have a problem with battlefield 5 on my pc and play with a scuf (ps4) battlefield does not recognize the controller can someone help me please?
if the controller isnt even recognized in Windows thats the the problem
he is recognized but not at battlefield
?
sour ivy
dont use a controller
supple bane
^
controllers are ass
there is one game i would use a controller
one game and one game only
and thats rocket league
the rest i would use a keyboard and mouse
supple bane
what?
supple bane
a steering wheel is like 50 pound
supple bane
I think you have been looking at the whole set
like the chair, the wheel, the pedals
all in a frame
supple bane
mild bough
dude, i saw one guy which used a steering wheel to play r6s
supple bane
this is the one i have
mild bough
so fcking funny
supple bane
it just clamps onto the desk and you plug the pedals in and away you go
although it says its for the ps4, it does work for pc
which is strange
mild bough
yes hah
mild bough
how do i install more than 2 2x8 gb ram?
I think i just have 2 places to put the ram in
prime jasper
you have to look at the mobo documentation to see what it supports
mild bough
what is mobo
prime jasper
motherboard
mild bough
how do i know what mobo i have
prime jasper
it may be printed on the mobo itself
prime jasper
if you have tools like speccy or cpu-z that will tell you too
mild bough
ooo
latent light
Can't wait until Edge is Chromium-based
desert bear
https://youtu.be/agXH1_VlaiM I hope serve something 
latent light
sour ivy
Nvidia is an L
supple bane
anyone know why overclocks are causing really bad stuttering ?
specifically im using ryzen master. and a r5 2600
lofty light
Sounds like an unstable overclock
supple bane
do you think using bios instead of ryzen master would make a difference
im gonna try 4.1ghz on 1.425v
supple bane
@lofty light i found the issue, it wasnt my overclocking skills. if i applied my overclock and then closed ryzen master it was fine
it was having ryzen master open which was causing the stutters
latent light
1.425v will degrade the CPU pretty fast
safe voltage for 2nd gen Ryzen is 1.4v
1st gen is 1.425
latent light
If you're running at 60C or lower
latent light
Also, 2600 may have difficulties reaching 4.1 GHz all core
latent light
2600X usually gets 200MHz higher overclock
prime jasper
@supple bane question for you
8 gig DDR3 1600 +
- empty slot
- 2 gig 1600
- 4 gig 1300 overclocked to 1600
which is best
prime jasper
ok thx 
prime jasper
you seem to know your stuff
supple bane
pffht
prime jasper
hardware aint my forte
supple bane
i didnt even know what a graphics card was a year ago
prime jasper
lol ok
supple bane
so, im pretty new to this stuff too lol
indigo wraith
guys need some technical help, im posting my pc specs because im only ever reaching 48-56 FPS in game, with settings some High and some Medium? any advise?
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.00GHz 31 °C
Skylake 14nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Single-Channel Unknown (16-16-16-39)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z170 PRO GAMING (LGA1151) 35 °C
Graphics
LG ULTRAWIDE (2560x1080@75Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti (Gigabyte) 43 °C
Storage
931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1ER162 (SATA ) 27 °C
223GB KINGSTON SA400S37240G (SATA-2 (SSD)) 28 °C
1862GB Western Digital WD My Passport 25E1 USB Device (USB )
supple bane
its because your ram is single channel
well that was easy
sell that stick and get 8gbx2
indigo wraith
🙂 wow thats it? can i not buy another 16gb? or that wont work?
supple bane
well yeah you can
but it would be cheaper to do it the way i said
and for gaming you dont need 32gb of ram, you will barely ever use 16gb
indigo wraith
thanks ! @supple bane
warm aurora
Xbox
scarlet rain
1070ti and u own a 75hz monitor
indigo wraith
@scarlet rainuhm whats the problem? please tell me i really dont know
warm aurora
sour ivy
dont hate on the mans grind
mild bough
omfg
im so mad
so i was going to meet the dude i was gonna buy the rtx 2080 from. then my mom suddenly said she ordered a MSI RTX 2060 Gaming Z to me
and i try to tell her that that is a bad GPU
and then she gets like really mad and she starts taking my money, and then i try to say that i have a better deal and that the rtx 2060 is bad. ffs i hate women
sour ivy
you told her that a 2060 is a bad gpu?
prime jasper
if its a gift, that saves you money. and its a huge upgrade from what you have lol
mild bough
yeah
sour ivy
a 2060 is not a bad gpu
mild bough
it costs way to much compared to what it can do
sour ivy
is it a gift
mild bough
No thats the thing, she ordered it with my money
sour ivy
so cancel it
mild bough
i told her to, and she did. but she is just like crazy
prime jasper
lol
prime jasper
my mom doesnt have access to my money...so no
sour ivy
my mother doesnt control my money
mild bough
but like crazy
mild bough
like most mothers are
I try to tell her, my money my rules
but she says like, it is a waste of money. and that the rtx 2060 is better than the 2080 triple fan
prime jasper
uh...so stop giving her your money to access
prime jasper
ah...thats the issue
mild bough
yea
and she says that a 60hz monitor is a good monitor
it indeed works, but it is not a "good monitor"
supple bane
in your moms eyes all she sees is a working perfectly good monitor
mild bough
that is the also weird part
she works for a big television company
so she is kinda good with editing and such
sour ivy
how are you getting this money at 13
violet plank
3600 14 14 14 28 trc 42 trfc 288,gotta loves those fucking samsung b-dies 😏
supple bane
pocket money i guess
mild bough
when i work i get 17 bucks a hour
supple bane
WORK!?
mild bough
yes
supple bane
lucky bugger
mild bough
lol
supple bane
wait
mild bough
i chop wood with a big machine
supple bane
oh thats like 2 pound an hour
mild bough
i think it is around 150NOk is around 17 dollars
violet plank
@steep gust 4x 8gig on daisy chain,oc's better than 2x8 lol
mild bough
No that is not 2 pounds an hour
mild bough
what site did you use
supple bane
the one thats built into google
mild bough
dude
supple bane
supple bane
i dont want an exact conversion lol
because it will change every day
i just wanted to know roughly
supple bane
m8 you eint earning that at 13
mild bough
i am
supple bane
thats close to triple minimum wage
mild bough
i have no idea what that is
supple bane
minimum wage is the least you can legally earn AT 18
supple bane
so there is no way you are earning triple that at 13
sour ivy
that makes sense
mild bough
yes
supple bane
why 5 ?
mild bough
and it is 150 give or take
If 1 pound is 11 nok, and I make 150 NOK an hour
Then I make around idk how many pounds lol
no idea why i said 5
supple bane
wait you said you got 17 noks an hour tho ?
mild bough
but in norway i dont think there is like a wage system, only i can think of is when you are under 18. and you make more than around 5700$ a year. You have to pay taxes
no 150 NOK
And 150 NOK is 16.57 Dollars
supple bane
ok
mild bough
lol 2 pounds an hour would be slavery
supple bane
not really
supple bane
if you get a paper round thats about what you get
mild bough
do you work?
supple bane
im still in high school m8
mild bough
yes same but do you do like any summer jobs?
supple bane
its not a thing over here
also if your 13 you dont start high school for another year im afraid mate
mild bough
oh
supple bane
we do it different over here
supple bane
yeah kindergarden
mild bough
Like, the gpu does like graphic stuff
and cpu does like recipe stuff
what does the motherboard
supple bane
if you mean what i think i mean, basically it is just a bridge for all the components in a computer to communicate and receive power. so the main components is the chip, the headers and any transistors/resistors/vrms's/capacitors.
prime jasper
exactly
supple bane
the chip in very simply controls what happens, controls what data goes where basically
supple bane
the headers and what things slot into to allow them to communicate with the board and the other components, for example the cpu goes in the cpu socket which connects it to all the other components
mild bough
mother board
supple bane
and the power delivery stuff just ensures all the things mentioned above get the correct amount of, amps,watts and volts
supple bane
yeah and ?
mild bough
how do i make more slots, so i can have 4x8
supple bane
you need a new board for that
prime jasper
New MB
sour ivy
you download more slots
supple bane
but why tho
mild bough
that would be expensive
sour ivy
nobody needs 32 gb
mild bough
i do
supple bane
you dont need 16gb for gaming
sour ivy
for gaming ^
mild bough
why?
supple bane
@sour ivy you do for photo/video editing
sour ivy
yeah i added on
supple bane
ah right
mild bough
but then i can play more games at once
sour ivy
supple bane
and i was playing minecraft with shaders and bfv at the same time
sour ivy
why would you want to play 2 games at once
mild bough
play csgo and miencraft at the same time
supple bane
i wasnt doing it on purpose
sour ivy
thats so dumb
mild bough
when you die in competetive and wait for your teammates to die
supple bane
i left bfv open and didnt notice
mild bough
play minecraft
wanna hear something more stupid i did
i played sea of thieves and bfv at the same time
supple bane
eh you still wont use 16gb even with that
mild bough
and wondered why i got 1 fps on bfv
sour ivy
frosbite
lOOK so Good
rUn sO b@d
battlefield wonders why nobody streams their game
BECAUSE NOBODY CAN STREAM IT ON SINGLE PC
mild bough
battlefield should give money to people to stream bfv
to members
like you and me pimo
prime jasper
Y
prime jasper
what its so easy
sour ivy
the game runs terribly as it is
prime jasper
not for me
supple bane
i can stream bfv np
and i only have a 1060
im streaming rn in fact
(shameless plug)
supple bane
i was sorta joking
i just jumped into the streaming things on the discord
just so what i said wasnt a lie
i meannn
i guess i could stream
prime jasper
dont come here to complain when no one watches 
supple bane
sour ivy
supple bane
sour ivy
I putting my pc in fridge
supple bane
why tho
sour ivy
Yes
mild bough
i found out my gpu has 1 fan
no wonder if i dont have the fan speed at 80% it has like 70 celsius
sour ivy
How did you just find that out
mild bough
@supple bane , does PSU needs to be compatible with anything?
supple bane
no
prime jasper
?
prime jasper
Explain again would ya
Also just use pcpartpicker usually says if its compatible or not
mild bough
what is that?
sour ivy
bruh
supple bane
mild bough
i am gonna buy 850 watt
supple bane
what
prime jasper
what do you currently have?
prime jasper
2080 recommends 650 ¯_(ツ)_/¯
supple bane
we already discussed this and it would be perfectly fine
anything more than 700w is a complete waste of money
prime jasper
I have 750, get over here and say that to my face not online
mild bough
idk
i like buying extra
like i always drink a little extra water in case i get thirsty any time soon
i saw 1000 watt for 160$
prime jasper
even for an American thats too much
prime jasper
...close enough
prime jasper
@supple bane doesnt matter, I'll follow the smell of tea and rotting teeth when you land. I'll find you easy enough
supple bane
mild bough
are you english hugh granty?
supple bane
@prime jasper i guess ill follow the smell of burnt gun powder and incest and we can meet in the middle
broken glen
don't forget the bowler hats
prime jasper
@supple bane bring ur mum and its a deal
supple bane
broken glen
can he bring any mom ?
supple bane
also i dont drink tea and my teeth arent rotting reeee
broken glen
angwy tea dwinker
broken glen
hmm yes the delicate bean juice
sour ivy
M 
SI
latent light
proven dust
anyone have issues on bfv servers such as ping jumping into 300+ when you shoot at people
proven dust
yea and i tryed on all servers
jevery other game its fine
i can even sit at a stable 50 on na servers
normaly that is
solemn sand
f
mild bough
sometimes you have to get 1 more level @solemn sand
sometimes 2
happend to me aswell, but no worries you will get it
slate rivet
new iOS update 👀
mild bough
how do i find out how many pins i have
In my pc
help me obi granty kenobi, youre my only hope
slate rivet
how many pins?
supple bane
@mild bough what you onna bout bro ?
you dont realise how many pins there are in different parts of the pc, your going to need to be a little more precise
prime jasper
yes
mild bough
i needed to find out how many i had
but where is the gpu actuallyy located in the pc?
supple bane
do you have the new gpu with you ready to install ?
supple bane
i will be most likely
mild bough
i should get it within the next 4 days
what things do i need to look at the gpu? Is it more than the GB and the amount of fans?
supple bane
yeah but it would be too complicated to explain
and the amount of fans isnt really something you look at in a gpu
mild bough
but like, you shouldnt buy a gpu with 1 fan
supple bane
i have a gpu with 1 fan
mild bough
same, but isnt that kinda bad? Dont you have to run it at 100%?
supple bane
no
supple bane
it depends on the cases airflow mainly
prime jasper
any higher end GPU will be 2 fan minimum anyway
supple bane
yeah
prime jasper
yes but you wont need water cooling lol
mild bough
water cooling is cool
That is why it is called cool
but many water cooling cables have RGB.. is the lights behind or inside the cable?
prime jasper
they make hybrid cooler gpus as it is...but its gonna cost ya
sour ivy
all 20xx series are at least 2 fans
mild bough
good to know
sour ivy
but nvidia founders still cool bad
compared to others
cuz they still half ass it
even w 2 fans
mild bough
rip
mild bough
lol my friends pc looks like awesome, it looks like a 10 000 $ pc, he spent all his money on the looks
but he has 4gb ram i5 6400 cpu and gtx 760
prime jasper
lmao
mild bough
and since he already is «super smart» he got 3x 4k monitors
prime jasper
ouch
mild bough
32’’
lol
i just dont get it why he can handle such a bad pc
it has RGB lights and the whole thing
and the cabinet itself is huuugeee
supple bane
cabinet heh loll
hoary ember
case
mild bough
yeah exactly
He says he is not gonna bother buy a new gpu
i think he cant watch 4k, but the youtube just automates it to 1080p without he noticing
forest token
prime jasper
Consoles are for plebs
sour ivy
yes
mild bough
it is a resson why he only gets C’s and D’s in school
prime jasper
Who?
steep gust
its all ogre now
molten coral
prime jasper
I mean if we are talking about rule breaking battlefield V has done a lot of that
sour ivy
What
prime jasper
?
molten bramble
We're not, because any discussions apart from tech-related content need to go in #battlefield-legacy-titles and #general as was already noted by a staff member.
fallen harbor
guys uh
my two monitors are displaying image at the same time
i can no longer choose only one at a time like before for some reason
anyone got an idea of why this happens?
i dont even have the option to choose a monitor anymore
i see the same thing in my two monitors
molten bramble
1650Ti why? The 1660Ti is already on the market.
latent light
watch it be 85w tdp like the boosted 1650s
so it will require a 6-pin connector
the advantage of xx50 series is that they're supposed to draw power from motherboard alone
sour ivy
There should be a motherboard that can power a high wattage card
fallen harbor
has anyone else here played PC building simulator
sour ivy
I’m really high rn so if I say some dumb shit
lofty light
I'm picking up my 3900X right now, but there's a line of like 20 people waiting 👀
I'm hoping to god they don't run out before I get there
latent light
There's still a line of people waiting for Ryzen 3000 CPUs despite them being out for 7 weeks now
hoary ember
Would it be necessary to upgrade 3600 from 2600
prime jasper
only if you want better fps
hoary ember
Meh then
fallen harbor
my PSU is only 600w, is it okay for the rx 590?
supple bane
yeah
fallen harbor
kk ty
supple bane
its plenty
fallen harbor
do all rx590's glow? because every picture i see of it working has lights in its fans
fallen harbor
kk
lofty light
Yay I got my 3900X 
Now I've got to deal with my driver's and old software crashing and burning around me
prime jasper
lofty light
My old CPU cooler didn't have AM4 support too which is annoying, but at least the cooler that came with the CPU is alright
prime jasper
anything has am4 support with enough duct tape
lofty light
I mean I was gonna drill holes but who can be stuffed honestly 🤷
prime jasper
but who can be stuffed
lofty light
molten bramble
👀
prime jasper
sour ivy
pls dont post off topic stuff here
prime jasper
Not off topic clearly made from over heating intel cpu transferring heat to the oven at 400 degrees F
Looks good
sour ivy
ppl always hate on amd because of the FX days
calling it team red cuz its hot
but intel is so hoottt
sour ivy
fx 8350
fallen harbor
i asked someone at a local if they have rx590 and they said they dont recieve those anymore. I asked why. He said its because those are for mining and not for gaming and ive never heard this in any benchmark or site about the 590 before
was he telling the truth or trying to distract me
sour ivy
he probably doesnt know what hes talking about
590 isnt a great gaming card but its decent
fallen harbor
for its price id say its pretty good?
sour ivy
yes
fallen harbor
its 50% cheaperthan the 1660yi
sour ivy
id try and pick it up used
fallen harbor
ti*
sour ivy
get it used
fallen harbor
i prefer having new tbh
when it comes to gpu
there arent many used here to pick and many of them are scams
or have something broken and wont tell you
sour ivy
How much is a new 590 where you are
fallen harbor
everything is highly expensive here
so i dont think it will give you a contextual idea
sour ivy
Yeah Ik that’s why I’m asking
fallen harbor
its 258usd approximately
sour ivy
How much is a 1660
fallen harbor
around 418usd
sour ivy
Tf
fallen harbor
this is why im going for a rx590
everything here is overpriced but nvidia is even more
than everything else
supple bane
the rx 590 is a great card for the price
prime jasper
what about the 5700?
fallen harbor
620usd
fallen harbor
go to mercadolibre argentina
sour ivy
what the fuk
fallen harbor
and translate the currency so 1usd=58 pesos
sour ivy
what cpu do you have ando
fallen harbor
i5 8400
supple bane
oooh
sour ivy
oki
supple bane
the 590 would be a perfect match for that
sour ivy
yessr
fallen harbor
cool ty
sour ivy
no prahblem
fallen harbor
houses here are the same price as in there granty
and our min wage is 275usd a month
ay lmao
sour ivy
wat da fuk
prime jasper
ouch
sour ivy
prime jasper
time to move to the country
sour ivy
land of the free
sour ivy
just sell cocaine
fallen harbor
no ty
sour ivy
(mods need not read this)
fallen harbor
there must be some sort of job exchanges or smthn
to work in another country for some months
id do that repeatedly
if its possible
that is
even if its basic jobs
fallen harbor
like out of my home or my country?
supple bane
yeah ik that
fallen harbor
which i want to avoid
prime jasper
lol
supple bane
nothing to see here
sour ivy
mods need not infiltrate our safe space
fallen harbor
i love how we always end up talking about this whenever i am asked about local prices
fallen harbor
we have talked about this like 4 times already
sour ivy
the people have SPOKEN
molten bramble
It wasn’t a request.
molten bramble
Because you big brain.
supple bane
one thing i can agree on 
molten bramble
😁
sour ivy
poop
molten bramble
True.
supple bane
does it count if its robot poop ?
molten bramble
^
sour ivy
yes
lofty light
Wtf is going on here
sour ivy
move along mod
molten bramble
Or perhaps a biotechnological device that helps poop happen.
molten bramble
Either is acceptable tech talk.