technology

[short coral]

I'd rather use chrome os ngl

[brave sundial]

what rock have you been living under lad

[short coral]

Apparently a big one, I've never heard about this either

Biting off way more than they can chew with this one

[brave sundial]

It's on its 3rd iteration

[short coral]

🤢

[brave sundial]

Bait used to be believable

[spring sapphire]

A massive one. I try to stay off the internet as much as I can 😂 I fail often at that goal 😂I need to go back camping.

[short coral]

I'm being serious mf

I had a chromebook that I forced to run steam and java minecraft, it was pretty good

If they simply modified the OS to take off the restrictions on steam and java, it'd be perfect

[willow schooner]

An ironic statement, but an expected one. Especially given that Chrome OS is built on Linux

[lime bolt]

it is indeed

its based of gentoo

right? freedom is so icky and gross :briishTP:

[short coral]

Companies attempting vertical expansion is disgusting, yes

[worn phoenix]

amd dropped out of the high end race

so i'd be surprised

[brave sundial]

Well, they already abandoned it

Turns out you can't sell shit products even if you got the advantage of schools on your side

[candid flame]

UDNA is supposedly high-end

So next gen

[worn phoenix]

is that the real name

[candid flame]

Yeah, they are merging their professional and gaming cards

Allegedly

[worn phoenix]

interesting

[toxic wigeon]

Let's hope ATI doesn't fuck it up.

But... yeah

[little orchid]

what was that second word? LO- im so so sorry, i am very brainrotted and acoustic.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9060-xt-leaks-out-16gb-and-8gb-memory-configs-listed

8GB as an option is yikes

8GB should never be an option

[prime jasper]

granny fortnite pcs

[molten flame]

it's supposed to be a lot faster than RX 7600XT but slower than 7700XT

8GB would be a dumb choice for the performance

[prime jasper]

can make it cheaper, prompting people to buy it to save money without thinking about the consequences

[molten flame]

eh it would only be $50 cheaper at most

[prime jasper]

deceptive marketing masquerading as stupidity

maybe I'm the dumbass thing. Not necessarily with PC parts, but $50 is enough to get me to find something "close" to what I wanted

[molten flame]

$50 is not much considering it makes all the difference from making the GPU either useful or useless

[coarse nimbus]

will hardware unbox say 8gb actually makes perfect sense for that card though?

[spring sapphire]

I'm not sure what you mean? The second word I used was massive.

[real ocean]

I need a monitor recommendation

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP641QQR/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?pd_rd_i=B0DP641QQR&pd_rd_w=xKkBJ&content-id=amzn1.sym.386c274b-4bfe-4421-9052-a1a56db557ab&pf_rd_p=386c274b-4bfe-4421-9052-a1a56db557ab&pf_rd_r=FZPHMD2DNNHCEQT3S5GH&pd_rd_wg=1laVn&pd_rd_r=b9da692e-c23a-41a4-8c0f-7c0804d44fe0&s=pc&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWxfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4P2KB9K/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?pd_rd_i=B0C4P2KB9K&pd_rd_w=4svsR&content-id=amzn1.sym.386c274b-4bfe-4421-9052-a1a56db557ab&pf_rd_p=386c274b-4bfe-4421-9052-a1a56db557ab&pf_rd_r=28Z4GNRZ6JD82Q4RQBSM&pd_rd_wg=Y5gq8&pd_rd_r=056d9440-a140-4aeb-a886-de965566f203&s=pc&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWxfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q32G11ZNE-Frameless-Response-Guarantee/dp/B0DF9SKLL2/ref=sr_1_13?crid=2BAGZ9ZWXFQ6E&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Hlx6lnGnd5xuPW-XCAQDpAlH7aOu92w2gE2mIWfMF35CH8DskCUiwT_WhVBq5GL2SYa6_9otdpvxra1Gf6RU2UehREonv7KICXCiDrLOcCHAZ9csmtCPlJ4lueT4g-8s6ZY-mXOMqBTWh4BSE19KTIPGIy7GdLzK-E_GWiW3GYNE4zHwuUXIP8K59_vZovpNz1VqjCbkkUAOZfRWStlIegDIQHsDivwwWZUzQ1PDCA0.X0jd4gYCZCmdShR9esTbNwdMwqvBry_1NvWKPlqABv0&dib_tag=se&keywords=4k%2B240hz&qid=1741144364&sprefix=4k%2B240hz%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-13&th=1

Is the wide screen worth it ? or is the 240 hz and .5 ms worth it

i dont play competive gaming at the moment, not that i wouldnt want to

its for gaming and also as a decent screen to watch filsm on

[brazen holly]

165Hz for standard games. 60Hz on a budget. 200+ Hz for competitive gaming

[real ocean]

so HDR being a deciding factor...

[prime jasper]

I'd get the third display

[real ocean]

do you prefer ultrawide

[prime jasper]

for gaming? no, not at all.

I don't like having to turn my neck. it's a nice novelty, but I personally don't prefer it

unelss you play flight sims or racing games, I had some fun with those

i had a 34" ultrawide that I stress cracked when I was re-arranging my desk (I didn't remove it from the arm of the monitor stand). I switched to a samsung 27" g5, and I don't think I'll ever go back to an ultrawide.

27" is enough for me. If anything, I'll just get a couple duplicate displays if I ever get back into flight sims.

[silk wing]

Ready for this game

Gamingwitcap twitch follow me 🫡

[real ocean]

anyone have other thoughts on ultrawide vs not ?

[brazen holly]

27" is enough for now. You're causing unnecessary strain for information you can't see.

Focus on quality of a monitor, not gimmicks like ultra wide.

[real ocean]

So what would you recommend ?

I have about 270 to spend

Whats the most important?

[toxic wigeon]

@real ocean what's your resolution standard?

[real ocean]

I currently have a rtx 4070 ti super

[brazen holly]

Thats your GPU

[real ocean]

im currently on a 24inch 1080p

at 60hz

[toxic wigeon]

If you want a HDR 1440p monitor i can recommend the Samsung odyssey g5.

https://www.samsung.com/au/monitors/gaming/odyssey-g5-g55c-27-inch-165hz-curved-qhd-ls27cg552eexxy/?gQT=2

[brazen holly]

What kind of games do you want to play?

[toxic wigeon]

I got this as a replacement for my monitor that broke and its really nice. My only issue is that it can't be adjusted.

[brazen holly]

For competitive gaming 1080 240+ Hz Monitor as large as you can get.
For visual games like RPG's and SP games or the odd shooter, 165Hz 2k resolution
Budget: 60-120Hz 1080p

[toxic wigeon]

To be honest. 1440p is much easier to get onto nowadays.

1080p though is so effortless.

[brazen holly]

Yes

[toxic wigeon]

Like not just money wise.

Haha gpu go brr

[brazen holly]

A 4070ti Super would be pushing Medium 4k

Or Cyberpunk in Ultra 2k

[real ocean]

is 4k vs 2k extemely noticable?

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah.

But it also really sucks your gpu.

[brazen holly]

I have a 4k Monitor, I prefer 2k. There is a difference but not always a good thing.

Higher GPU strain, louder Fans, Less visual "niceness" when you can use the processing power of your GPU on effects.

Your sweet spot is 2k gaming with your GPU

[toxic wigeon]

I think 1440p OLED is a more worthwhile upgrade than 4k.

Both in one go though that's a good one!

But the point is that if you want nicer looking games i think looking at OLED is worth a bit of the budget instead of paying top for a monitor with lots of pixels and makes the gpu go whrrrr

[real ocean]

Any monitors you all would suggest besides the g5 for around 270 or below

i enjoy the great looking stuff, havent played competitive but would be oopen to the possibility

also a developer and think the screen real estate might beworth the larger the better

although i have two other montiors that ill throw as side monitors to the monitor i get

[toxic wigeon]

Oh yeah I linked the Australian site lol

[brazen holly]

what country?

[real ocean]

usa

[brazen holly]

Your best bet

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/

Sems to be good. I am happy with my MSI monitorr

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CBgQzy/msi-optix-mag274qrf-270-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-optix-mag274qrf

OLED is better but out of your price range

[toxic wigeon]

I would have recommended that line!

[brazen holly]

I have the slightly upraded version

https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-274UPF-E2

[toxic wigeon]

I had the mq27cq7.

Or something

165, 1440, curved

[brazen holly]

Nice, I considered curved but no need. I'm 3/4 of a meter away from my screen. All information is available to me. Sometimes I even have to look up to the top right.

[little orchid]

thats why said it was low, could've been tapering, but i think it fades

[toxic wigeon]

I'm too used to curved.

I used my mates flat ass monitor and my eyes just unbended it backwards LMAO

[brazen holly]

I like my Monitors like I like myself

Flat and a bit dim

[molten flame]

[brave sundial]

AMD think they're Nvidia 💀

Squandering any last bit of goodwill they might be able to gain this gen

[midnight crypt]

If the 8gb card isn't priced atrociously it could be fine

And not masquerade as a high-medium end card but with low end specs

[brazen holly]

Nah an 8gb card can work fine for a media pc or some light gaming or even office work. It's not acceptable to Gamers but the lower end on 1080p.

Relax, it's not like it's 7.5Gb

[brave sundial]

With AMD I have my doubts

But you're likely right for this one

[midnight crypt]

Well they are very good at squandering good opportunities

But we will see soon

[molten flame]

AMD aquires Nvidia

That would be too ironic of a timeline

[nocturne drift]

I accidentally got a 3090 rog strix white instead of a 3080

I paid only 440

Wtf

[willow schooner]

Nice.

Free GPU with more than double the VRAM

[nocturne drift]

Do I sell it? It's like 300+ dollars in profit LOL.

[willow schooner]

Say you sell it for 700, can that buy you a new or 2nd hand GPU thats better than it?

[nocturne drift]

This is the rare 3090 rog strix white tho. I am doing a white build so prob not.

I think I'll keep it. It's soo pretty.

[willow schooner]

You could probably sell and get something like a 4070ti super which would be much faster. But have a bit less VRAM

[nocturne drift]

True. But this is for a friend.

I have to attempt to get a white 4070ti super or smth haha

[pale quartz]

ultrawide isnt a gimmick

and what do you mean you cant see? it literally expands the aspect ratio thats viewable

[willow schooner]

For gaming, if you can power an UW...it has big advantages. Especially for competitive FPS games.

[quick locust]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-confirms-launch-pricing-for-geforce-rtx-5070-cards-up-to-739-for-tuf-gaming-model

[molten flame]

DOA

[molten flame]

Rumor that Nintendo 64 console is being remade with 4K support with a HDMI 2.1b port

[prime jasper]

I hope they are making a new controller for adult hands if that's the case

because if it has that original controller, nuh uh

that thing was a pain when I was 12

[mighty geyser]

Did you try using it upside down?

[prime jasper]

I don't, no.

[mighty geyser]

It's more painful, but then once you go back to right side up, it feels less painful

Ez fix

[prime jasper]

I don't think that will change the fact my hands are too big for the controller

[mighty geyser]

Ah well. I guess there is that

[prime jasper]

will it take the original cartridges is what I want to know. I'm not re-buying 30 games.

and if it's this Analogue thing I'm looking at, original carts and a redesigned controller. may be worth it

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP0axVHdP-U

finally a positive GPU review

[coarse nimbus]

watching the jayz video and the pre tarriff/estimates shelp price part is

[midnight crypt]

Really wish they had a higher end model

[candid flame]

next gen will be higher end, allegedly

[molten flame]

UDNA will likely top out at 128 CUs, which is how many the 4090 has

AMD won't have a 5090 competitor until about 2 more generations

and Nvidia won't launch a 5090 successor until 2028 at the very least

[brave sundial]

ultrawide is absolutely not a gimmick

[molten flame]

increased horizontal field of view can have benefits

[prime jasper]

i like it for peripheral vision. awesome for fps, driving, flight sim. if I have to turn my head to read text, like in an RTS or an RPG, it isn't as fun on my neck.

like having to look at the corner for a mini map in total war while also tracking the decisions I am actively making in the center of the screen

and my troop status is at the bottom

and my spell abilities are in the bottom right corner

[brave sundial]

Don't games have options to pad the menus or whatever for that

[prime jasper]

i increase the size of the UI in total war, but it starts truncating text. it's poorly implemented

[worn phoenix]

silly wish but i wish more games made use of multi monitor setups

[midnight crypt]

Implementation and support varies wildly

[worn phoenix]

having the map open on a second monitor, that sort of stuff

[prime jasper]

ms flight sim actually allows that. there's a little pda device you can keep open on another monitor so the map doesn't take up half the screen

can plan flights on it, look at the map/weather/etc

too bad my HOTAS took a shit

[molten flame]

According to Digital Foundry's testing, FSR 4 is better than DLSS 3 but worse than DLSS 4

as expected

vast improvement over FSR 3 though

[spring sapphire]

https://a.co/d/1AwWXqc I have an LG 165hz 1440p one that is a bit more $ than this one but for your price range this one can be good. I would get a 3rd party mounting arm.

[coarse nimbus]

bruh...crucial told me on the 3rd, that my replacement drive would ship on the 6th... but now i just got a change confirmation email and the PDF document is saying it will ship on the 21st now

[midnight crypt]

Nice

Don't know why they couldn't just ship a new one when they got confirmation that yours is in transit to them

[coarse nimbus]

obviously im a super shady person who cant be trusted

[midnight crypt]

[coarse nimbus]

at this point though...would just buying a 980 evo that my tech friend suggested be better

anyone want to buy a "new" 2tb nvme from crucial? when ever i get it

[brave sundial]

what gen?

[brave sundial]

[coarse nimbus]

gen4

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B25ML2FH?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

ohh the 5070ti is 16gb as well

[spring sapphire]

Oh wow. It beat the 7900xtx in a couple charts. Might have to upgrade from the 3070 with this.

[coarse nimbus]

that 60w power increase for the 9070xt vs 5070 ti

but then on jayz video the 5070ti is running like 67c and the xt is at 50c

[quick locust]

Dinky cooler on 5070 ti then

[coarse nimbus]

Oh wait xt was 47c, 9070 was like 53c.. but yeah jayz then said the cooler on the xt was as big as a 5090s so yeah that would explain it

[midnight crypt]

Which 5090 cooler?

FE ain't that big

[tropic schooner]

ordering tomorrow

[coarse nimbus]

https://youtu.be/AHpIGcABFbc?si=BIJd6-T4vDDUMLJx&t=1646 asus?

[midnight crypt]

Yeah that's way overkill

[spring sapphire]

Doesn't the 4080 beat the 5070?

[midnight crypt]

yes

[worn phoenix]

by a huge margin

5070 is just the 4070 super

[spring sapphire]

Wowwwww. Major L @ nvidia

[small zinc]

So the 9070 XT is a 5070 Ti for cheaper.

Got it.

Tom's Hardware has the 5070 Ti and 9070 XT completely on par with each other.

$599 price tag. We'll see how scalpers f**k that up and availability. But right now AMD on paper is kind of beating Nvidia. Not gonna lie.

[spring sapphire]

If it can push a stable 120 fps at 1440p with medium/high graphics in the next bf without Ai frames I'm buying it

Yea idek why they would release a 5070 that terrible

And the 5080 barely beats the 4080super that chart says. Like wtf

[small zinc]

Also looks like the 7900 XTX isn't all that bad of a purchase either. Still outperforms most 80 series.

[spring sapphire]

Yeaaa looking at that too🙏

[small zinc]

bUt wHaT aBoUT rAy TrAcInG?

Nobody cares about that anymore....

[worn phoenix]

fsr 4 looking really good too

[worn phoenix]

well nvidia had a paper launch so it's only fitting that amd is also beating nvidia on paper lmao

[small zinc]

Touche. I fully expect all kinds of "Unavailable" tomorrow

I don't think AMD has any reason to purposely keep stock low like Nvidia did though

[spring sapphire]

Right. Never used it and never plan on it

[worn phoenix]

mid tier ray tracing is a gimmick most of the time anyway

amd winning on all fronts with this

[coarse nimbus]

is the multi frame gen shit just a total scam too?

like the input lag for having 1 real frame every 4 makes the experience jittery

[prime jasper]

I only see raytracing irl when I need to dust my house

[worn phoenix]

500ms input lag

[coarse nimbus]

uhh was it the GN video, showing cyberpunk like loading up with lag

the more you played it

i think that was the fake frames shit

[spring sapphire]

I've never noticed any issues with my eyes using dlss (besides some objects looking weird or blurred) but many other people gripe about it a lot. Idk

[worn phoenix]

dlss is fine

people who complain are usually complaining about poor implementation or old versions

dlss 4 with cnn model literally looks better than native

[coarse nimbus]

https://youtu.be/yP0axVHdP-U?si=SNl4Larolj0w0Aos&t=1277 oh it was the base 5070 running out of vram in 2077

4k rt ultra though, so no wonder

[pale quartz]

transformer model

[worn phoenix]

oh yeah my bad

[brave sundial]

I mean when it's becoming the norm going forward, you very much need to care about it

No wonder AMD seems to be pushing that heavily this gen, over actual raw performance value compared to Nvidia.

[coarse nimbus]

so theres like zero reasoning to go from a base 3070 to a 5070.. because 12gb is just going to be "trash" sooner rather than later.. and at minimum a 70ti would be needed for the vram?

[pale quartz]

yeah

[serene fable]

DLing nvidia driver hotfix right now.
i got a lil scared last week when my monitor wouldnt come back on lol
(even tho i have an old ass gpu)

[brazen holly]

GN, cyberpunk has memory leaks regardless so that doesn't help things

[coarse nimbus]

[pale quartz]

The answer to that question is AMD. AMD will be supporting major retailers to help them achieve these pricing levels. Note that this support will only apply to a limited number of GPUs.

While gamers will be able to purchase AMD’s new RDNA 4 GPUs at MSRP prices, these GPUs will achieve this pricing level by using what are effectively “AMD discounts.” Once this support ends, retailers will sell GPUs for their natural prices, which are dictated by their purchasing and shipping/distribution costs.

---

don't worry rdna4 MSRPs are just as fake as Nvidias

also it's funny that AI frame generation now apparently only matters since Radeon have a decent one, just you need a brand new card to use it whatsoever

[spring sapphire]

I have a 3070 and might get the 9070xt depending on reviews coming soon. 5070 shouldn't even have been developed.

[molten flame]

modest LLMs in LM studio

beating the 5080 lol

also the overclock models of 9070XT with 340W TDP get an extra 4-9% more performance depending on game or app

It's amazing AMD is competitive with the 5070Ti and 5070 while using older generation GDDR6 memory

imagine if they were using GDDR7 too

though that would definitely increase the cost

[coarse nimbus]

over volting?

what about under volting to reduce power consumption/heat, for the same performance

[molten flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556205794241151021/1346999135710216225/image.png?ex=67ca3a33&is=67c8e8b3&hm=76fb8158c19e5952eb3603ff85f08ab2a6038480ea9272160b9999c95f3f20af&

same performance for 50 watts less

nothing really substantial with undervolt

[toxic wigeon]

Honestly with the 9070XT merely being more available it's a win for those looking for an upgrade.

[molten flame]

OCUK had over 1000 Sapphire Pulse 9070XT available at launch

and that's just 1 model

it's like 10x more available than the 5070Ti and 5080 was at launch

https://youtu.be/2HjnByG7AXY

Sapphire did a single 12V bus for the connector on the Nitro+, just like Nvidia

probably not a big concern but still definitely possible to melt

[brave sundial]

Yeah apparantly amd give more control to AIBs over stuff like pins, TIL

[willow schooner]

Do ye think GTA6 will have forced RT?

[pale quartz]

probably not

[willow schooner]

More likely a similar package to what GTAV is getting ATM. Optional RTGI and RT reflections?

[pale quartz]

pretty much yeah

the game's going to be too expensive on resources excl RT, it'll perform like ass on the consoles as is, forcing RT would be a disaster

[molten flame]

Supposedly GTA 6 will have to run on the Switch 2

And Xbox Series S

Game will be held back on terms of graphics

[willow schooner]

360p upscaled on Series S.

I feel like thats one game that MS would let only run on the series X if push came to shove tho hahah

[pale quartz]

nah

there was already gameplay shown eons ago that it was connecting multiple cities, this game will be taxing as shit to run on anything nevermind the graphics

I think people are forgetting just how much CPU throughput will be needed just to run the game at "high frame rates" on PC

[willow schooner]

Rockstar and GTA are big enough that its system sellers that will do lots of work to get it running on their platforms

Sony basically released a new console just for GTA 6 😛

[willow schooner]

Where is this info from?

NVM, found it, but thanks for the info share.

[pale quartz]

no worries

[molten flame]

Yes I'd like a Sapphire RX 9070 Puke please

[toxic wigeon]

Oh the regular 9070s are out. Not the most amazing but hey.

[molten flame]

GTA 6 rumored to have VR mode

https://packaged-media.redd.it/50ectverg2ne1/pb/m2-res_1920p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1741284000&s=06358396756fbeb81eff5e4f0224b6638b5a04fa

This Microcenter has 1000 RX 9070XT available

[coarse nimbus]

Whoa look at mr i already have 16gb of vram

also, ive gotten an update from crucial as to why my ship date was changed from today to the 21st... "currently the part is not in stock"

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhsvrhedA9E

[turbid verge]

think my brother just scored a 9070 RT for MSRP

[molten flame]

lots of them are at MSRP or just slightly above

once they sell out completely they will be $700+

retailers increase price to prevent unavailability

[coarse nimbus]

will that be a based amd move though?

[molten flame]

it's a retail move

[pale quartz]

no its a amd move

the "msrp pricing" is just for units already stocked aka ones theyve had since january

afterwards aibs have to buy at market prices

[candid flame]

that's like 100x the stock of 5000 cards

[molten flame]

If I bought either I'd probably get the non-XT variant because of the impressive efficiency out-of-box

[molten flame]

over 10x more availability than the 5080 at launch

[pale quartz]

the non xt is the worse out the lot

no point downclocking a card that can barely achieve high framerates

[molten flame]

yeah but 300+ watt GPUs are too excessive for my ITX build

I have my PC on my desk so I bought the smallest ITX case in the market to have more desk space lol

[coarse nimbus]

you want to abandon your 4070 already?

[molten flame]

nah my 4070 barely fits in the case

I have the ProArt model that uses a single 8-pin

I know that the 5090 FE can fit in ITX cases, but I want to know how bad it overheats in ITX cases

[coarse nimbus]

oh lawd these things are way longer than the 3070

[molten flame]

I wish Nvidia made the 5080 FE as small as the 5090 FE

[willow schooner]

Wat?

[coarse nimbus]

my case can only take a 315mm card

and the 3070 is 285

[willow schooner]

5080 and 5090 FE are basically the same cooler.

[molten flame]

Ah I see it now

[molten flame]

didn't know 5080 did the full flow-through design that the 5090 has where it uses separate PCBs

[coarse nimbus]

that third picture gives me anxiety

[toxic wigeon]

Isn't it possible do just do 2 x 8's into the same one slot or is that just a bad idea?

[willow schooner]

Not sure what 2x8 means here

If you mean pigtailes pcie, it's generally a bad idea to use both when drawing over 160W

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWIIA-a9Q9A

they're saying it's mid

[coarse nimbus]

it should be more than $50 lower than the xt?

[molten flame]

$80 lower would be perfectly in line with the 9070XT in cost-per-frame

[willow schooner]

The prices are all a meme anyway. Already these "MSRP" cards are being replaced with higher price products

[coarse nimbus]

nvidia retroactively changing the price of the us cards because of tariffs that didnt effect the cost of those cards.. its like gas in the tank at the station being changed because the raw oil 6000 miles away went up in price

[molten flame]

AMD gonna do the same for the next batch of 9070XT

[willow schooner]

they already have done it

[brave sundial]

So you're saying all I need to do now is fake the etching and telemetry for stuff like gpu-z and people would be none the wiser if I sold a 5080 as a 5090?

[willow schooner]

there were even a few 5080s that shipped with 5090 etched shrouds lol

[molten flame]

is that because of AIBs trying to get them out as fast as possible?

[willow schooner]

This was the FE

[molten flame]

wtf

how does that even happen

[coarse nimbus]

thats a blunder at the factory lol

[willow schooner]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/gamer-reportedly-received-an-rtx-5080-with-rtx-5090-branding-it-turns-out-to-be-an-rtx-5080-after-all#:~:text=RTX 5080-,Gamer reportedly received an RTX 5080 with RTX 5090 branding,an RTX 5080%2C after all&text=Unique collector's item.&text=One of the few people,engraved name on the cooler.

Excuse the cancer link

[molten flame]

[coarse nimbus]

someone would pay more than a 5090, just to have that right?

[brave sundial]

well it doesn't hurt to try

[brave sundial]

so someone at the factory Nvidia works with was doing a bit of tomfoolery

[storm marsh]

Interesting!

[candid flame]

9070xt is 960usd for me here, but a full desktop with 7800x3d and 9070xt is 2800usd

[wise girder]

hahaha that sucks

[candid flame]

5080 is 1600 usd here lol

[coarse nimbus]

cheap for you

[candid flame]

yeah the usd is kinda cheap, I wonder how that happened

can't explain it

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/alphacool-launches-worlds-first-waterblock-for-radeon-rx-9070-gpu

even 9070XT + waterblock is cheaper than most 5070Ti

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-rtx-50-laptop-gpus-also-hit-by-missing-rops-production-delays-expected

missing ROPs in Nvidia laptop GPUs as well

[coarse nimbus]

jensen about to get agent 47 on the case to track down the rops

[midnight crypt]

This is comical levels of oversight

[astral atlas]

Why in the world is the 9070 so expensive here

[willow schooner]

Because the msrp basically no longer exists

Msrp means next to nothing as it's not enforcable. Almost anything I buy in the EU is well over msrp

Even having taken vat into account

[astral atlas]

Average 9070 XT costs about 900USD here, one variant is considerably cheaper

By average, I mean that's what most of the brands set it at

Only XFX puts it at 150$ lower

[willow schooner]

Scalper bots are likely also buying lots of the stock at the limited time MSRP

[astral atlas]

It's not for sale now, though

It's still pre-release

[coarse nimbus]

2025 and we still havent combated the scalper bots?

[astral atlas]

Though that didn't change anything last time

[pale quartz]

MSRPs for rdna4 are fake, they are only for a limited supply of cards, after aibs have to pay market prices

so expect this to be the norm

[astral atlas]

Fuck scalpers, dude

[brazen holly]

Patiently waits for UDNA

[pale quartz]

it's not scalpers this is amd's decision

[astral atlas]

I'm saying in general

[willow schooner]

Scalpers will buy up the subsidized cards is all I meant.

[somber ginkgo]

I was able to nab a 9070 XT Hellhound this morning. Must say I’m rather pleased to finally be done gpu hunting

[midnight crypt]

Hope the Hellhound cooler doesn't suck this time around

7900xtx Hellhound cooler is garbage

[somber ginkgo]

Here’s to hoping

[molten flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/222060964319723521/1347268341189841100/7gzmmvhdn1ne1.png?ex=67cb34eb&is=67c9e36b&hm=e3ff34cc29f8a5e685244511ac71662939c4b1bf29eb76d88c249dcc86152af9&

[molten flame]

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/retailer-claims-nvidia-is-recalling-large-number-of-rtx-5090-graphics-cards-due-to-fire-hazard/

[small zinc]

Welp. Had higher hopes that AMD would do better. RDNA 4 is completely a paper launch as well. Scalpers ensuring that they spend every last dime they ever thought about having on buying up every last GPU they can with purchase bots they didn't make to ensure the economy is beyond FUBARRED.

[jolly blaze]

@analog plaza

niye banladın la

[tropic schooner]

Not paper if I ordered it

It exists

[molten flame]

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-9070-gpus-increase-in-price-after-first-batch-is-sold-out/amp/

Expected

[small zinc]

Purchase bot?

[tropic schooner]

No, I went on webite and bought it. Poland/Europe

price wasn't nice, 800 eur

[small zinc]

800 Euro = $810. Not too terrible. Still cheaper than a 5070 Ti which is $900+

and same performance

[candid flame]

it's MSRP

800 euro is with VAT

[coarse nimbus]

how can you add value with a tax??? explain that euro

[tropic schooner]

I bought with tax included

Everything you buy have tax already in

If I see a price in store I know its with tax

Non tax price is never provided, on receipt after maybe

[coarse nimbus]

tfw you just want to make a joke but they akshually it

[tropic schooner]

I'd say it was more than msrp

[candid flame]

well yeah about 60-70$ more, it's nothing

[simple tiger]

Snagged my 9070XT this morning, 940 in stock in Dallas at Microcenter! Sold out by 1pm

[tropic schooner]

Which one you took

[simple tiger]

I snagged the Sapphire Pulse!

[tropic schooner]

Nice, was looking for it but wasn't available, got gigabyte oc

[simple tiger]

I almost chose the gigabyte too, decided I'd just OC myself due to mistrust of Gigabyte (personal issues, probably, but sour taste in my mouth!)

[tropic schooner]

I had issues with my GTX 660 in past sadly too, I just couldn't find anything else available

Others were far more expensive

Wanted pulse or XFX swift

[simple tiger]

I had a 7900GRE DOA and my Aorus Elite Mobo ($500 when I got it) has 4 dead USB ports

[tropic schooner]

Gigabyte is trying to do any part now?

In the past it was GPU only i think

[simple tiger]

Yeah they have Mobos as well

[willow schooner]

5080 price for 5070ti performance. Bruh, you'd swear these things werent pure mid range performance

940 USD for mid range is insane to me. and I felt bad paying 1600 for a 4090 2 years ago

[coarse nimbus]

the biggest joke is them being marketed as 4k cards?

[willow schooner]

lol yeah, and it cant hit 60 most of the time, and still cant do RT for shit.

[coarse nimbus]

wait is the base 5070 being listed as that as well

theres no way surely

[willow schooner]

5070 is terrible, but I dont think its being sold or marketted as a 4K card

5070 is terrible cos of its price tho, same with 5070ti. 940 USD for a card with an MSRP of 599 is god awful tho

[coarse nimbus]

https://youtu.be/HSkjSuTVYeo?si=4vlqt5gUxgX7hlKL&t=678 ah it was here he said they were being marketed as 4k so thats why he tested it in that (and not also 1440p because time)

[spring sapphire]

Is asrock or powercolor better?

[tropic schooner]

powercolor is probably more known in gpu space

[fallen harbor]

anybody knows a way to display mouse latency in game?

[digital hill]

Compared to 4070?

[coarse nimbus]

its a 12gb card in 2025? how long before thats only viable for 1080p

[digital hill]

Wait only

Not 16gb, Nvidia must hate people having cards for more then 3-5 years before upgrading due to vram limitations

[coarse nimbus]

70ti is 16

[molten flame]

nah by 940 he meant 940 in stock, not 940 USD

Microcenters across the nation had large quantities of the 9070XT

AMD seems to have priortized in-store sales rather than online sales to counter scalping maybe

microcenter says all 9070XT are in-store only, well for me anyway

many microcenters still have them in stock at or near MSRP

but not online

[brazen holly]

Just 90% of Americans don't live near a fucking microcenter

Happy News: I'm getting a new phone!!

I'm going to get a OnePlus 13

[toxic wigeon]

OH

That's pretty cool!

I'm glad that phones can be "basic" yet actually really good.

[molten flame]

I almost bought a OnePlus 12 a year ago but someone told me not to and I got a Galaxy S24 instead

also have a Galaxy A55 for work

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556205794241151021/1347441248520241183/IMG_4630.png?ex=67cbd5f3&is=67ca8473&hm=86c8b4e7199313b2bce4084d801ccef33e7aa68736d09c08aa156657eac3d044&

there isn't a recall

[molten flame]

https://x.com/hardwarecanucks/status/1897758004193173810?s=46&t=N_5PxnLDHfvZcmsCSLiIJQ

Hardware Canucks (@hardwarecanucks) on X

Confirmed via 3x sources for us directly at laptop manufacturers.

At least two confirmed NVIDIA is having them open ready-to-ship pallets of laptops to check for GPUs with missing ROPs.

What. The. Actual. Fck.

X · Mar 6, 2025, 9:15 PM

or maybe there is...

[willow schooner]

Ah nice. That's my mistake. Completely misunderstood their statement

[molten flame]

$940 USD for 9070XT would be a dumb purchase

you can get 9070XT with waterblock for cheaper

[candid flame]

cheapest one I can find here in Poland is $911

this is already with VAT included

[quick locust]

They cost around 7600 ish later in the day yesterday

I think it was like 4750 before most sold out in 2 minutes

[olive harness]

i bought a 4060 laptop for UNI to play games and i overpaid and brother let me tell you 8 gigs of vram is dreadfull in 2025

before that i had a custom pc with amds rx 570, 2017 card with also 8 gigs of vram

kinda feel like i got ripped off

1300 euros down the drain

and amd has no laptop gpus widely available where i live

[molten flame]

no mention of RDNA4 laptops ever coming either

[burnt coyote]

getting to the point where id argue that 12 is the minimum you want for vram

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H38a0vjQbJg

FSR4 is good if you use 1440p or 4K

but falls short at 1080p

[midnight crypt]

Kinda disappointed that they didn't test it at 1080p

and also trying to claim that 1440p is the most common resolution

[olive harness]

dlss at 1440p atleast in games that i play is quite good i cant tell that it isnt running at 1440p

i mean 1440p is getting very mainstream

[quick locust]

these websites are useless lol

[olive harness]

i have a 15 inch laptop with a 4060 and that has a 1440p panel

[olive harness]

i wish they would drop something with amd that has a okay value laptop wise

[molten flame]

Strix Point/Halo laptops are the only "new" AMD laptops coming out

and they use older generation RDNA 3.5 iGPU which means no updated ray-tracing hardware and no FSR 4

and they're really expensive

[spring sapphire]

The only 9070xt I saw over $600 was some xfx or xtx oc edition.

[ivory creek]

if the new amd get a decent dlss competitor and price themselves lower i think they could gain a ton of buyers

noone really wants raytracing anyway

[worn phoenix]

pricing is the biggest thing it seems

and amd isn't doing that much better than nvidia

[pale quartz]

raytraced games sell millions of copies so bit weird of a statement

[ivory creek]

noone would care if those game would be without raytracing

its nvidia who sponsor it

[thin path]

Jo guys. Since I let ea restart my pc after downloading battlefield labs my pc doesn’t work anymore it freezes up completely and when there’s a blue screen even that freezes up. Can someone help ?

[willow schooner]

Why are you still making these bogus statements when I proved you wrong 3 days ago

[ivory creek]

double bouncing rays and stuff were a thing before nvidia made the rt cores.

[willow schooner]

Do you really think that all GPU vendors would be constantly optimizing and improving their RT capabilities if RT was only a thing because Nvidia were sponsoring it?

[ivory creek]

physics in flags and stuff were also a thing before nvidia physx became a thing, in games from 2003

[pale quartz]

?

you think Nvidia sponsor every game that has rt? lol

[ivory creek]

alot of them

[pale quartz]

yeah they sponsored a lot of the games over 5 years ago

not so much anymore

[prime jasper]

does someone know how to fix this: I can't shoot i'm playing on PC and when i try to shoot it doesn't shoot, i can do everything but can't shoot...

[ivory creek]

gunz the duel had physics in their flags which was just like physx back in 2003

[pale quartz]

ok?

[ivory creek]

without being physx etc

[pale quartz]

that has anything to do with this because?

[ivory creek]

double bouncing rays were a thing before raytracing from nvidia

[willow schooner]

PhysX was a thing because it was an easy to use and implement library, part of the old gameworks.

[pale quartz]

ok and please name a game that had path tracing in a game before 2016

because none did

[willow schooner]

WTF does double bouncing rays even mean? 😄

[ivory creek]

look at the alternative to raytracing in the last of us part 1

[pale quartz]

you mean software accelerated lighting?

[willow schooner]

which part, planar reflections?

[ivory creek]

you really dont need nvidia is my point

[willow schooner]

What, thats not what your point was? You said noone wants RT

[pale quartz]

look I'm not going to mince words here, Nvidia define the GPU industry, and they have for over 10 years, that's why they have 90% of the market, AMD tried the strategy of avoiding RT with RDNA2 and it proved a colossal mistake

which is why they are changing tunes now

you can not like them but this is just useless ranting

[willow schooner]

Well right now, according to Q1 estimates, they only have 83% share

due to poor shipments in 2024/2025

Literally their own doing tho

[pale quartz]

the data is variable but 85-90 because shipments ramping on a generation are normal rather than a trend

[willow schooner]

They are taking more profit per unit, versus less profit on more units

[ivory creek]

from what ive heard people talk, most just complain that raytracing is too heavy and they just want ordinary tech

[willow schooner]

What people?

[pale quartz]

"from what I've heard" is not a good thing lol

that's how things are going, you're 6 years too late

[willow schooner]

Its fine to say "I dont care about RT" without trying to push that as some widespread consumer need

[pale quartz]

games are mandating RT capable hardware at this point and it will become the defacto norm within the next 5 years

[ivory creek]

well, from my own knowledge ive mostly seen that people complain about how heavy rt is

[willow schooner]

5/10, depending on the next consoles

[pale quartz]

your own knowledge isn't that much and I don't mean that in an insulting way

but you're way misinformed

double rays have nothing to do with heavy RT

heavy RT doesn't exist with alternative methods because no graphics card would be capable of computing them

[spring sapphire]

I've never used rt and none of my buddies have either. Prob bc we don't have a 5090 but 😂

[pale quartz]

play any modern game and you will to some capacity

[willow schooner]

You could use RT reflections in BFV even on a 1080ti. You dont need mega fast hardware to benefit from use of RT

[pale quartz]

Indiana Jones etc

you want to play the new doom that's coming out you'll be forced to use RT because that's the minimum requirement

[quick locust]

All 3 has RT anyway

Though im not going to turn on pathtracing on an A770

[pale quartz]

[quick locust]

Amazing 13 fps experience

[quick locust]

I dunno if its as much avoiding it as fumbling it lol

Wish AMD put more R&D into new gpu tech

They have the money now unlike in 2013-2017

[willow schooner]

Radeon have next to no money

Just cos it says AMD on the box, doesnt mean the CPU and GPU departments are the same

Effectively they are 2 separate companies

[molten flame]

Radeon probably doesn't even have a thousand employees

[quick locust]

Then imagine arc team size

[molten flame]

this generation sucked on all sides tbh

same performance levels as 2 years ago and same/worse prices

😴

[quick locust]

Clearly forgot all the AI tops

[digital hill]

Damn look at that vram

and that was 2022

God damn Nvidia must have learned 1080ti was too powerful

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-699-ryzen-9-9950x3d-and-599-ryzen-9-9900x3d-pricing-march-12-launch

9900X3D gonna be worst selling AM5 CPU since 7900X3D

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/222060964319723521/1347635990801416314/20250307192415135_firefox_cmon_do_something_Meme_Generator_-_Imgflip__Mozil.png?ex=67cc8b52&is=67cb39d2&hm=d0d5cf2ae93c271411e087da172b4f8d9f90683e051a3621a9562f26b46a7670&

[coarse nimbus]

if we found all the missing 50 series rops, could we build a super GPU?

[quick locust]

5090 ti coming your way

Only cost 2 livers and 3 kidneys

[candid flame]

take out a small loan

[coarse nimbus]

3% performance increase vs 5090, and 43% more cost?

[candid flame]

or you can short Nvidia stock to get cash for their gpus

[coarse nimbus]

wouldnt you want to long the stock to get more money?

[candid flame]

it's barely holding on

[coarse nimbus]

all jensen has to do is glaze 1 more data center and hes set

[midnight crypt]

He just has to mention AI

[quaint kestrel]

Amd makes buying nvidia a completely braindead decision

[coarse nimbus]

Not if your needs require the tech nvidia has

[quaint kestrel]

Name 1

🦗

[coarse nimbus]

https://youtu.be/LhsvrhedA9E?si=JWenMUSFXAJo7ND2&t=1796 here you go, i figured youd need it in video form as reading might be too hard for you

🦗

(am i doing this right?)

[brave sundial]

damnit, both steves have been compromised by amd

it was only inevitable

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-planning-geforce-rtx-5050-graphics-card-to-tackle-arc-b580

RTX 5050 with 8GB to compete against Arc B580 12GB

https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-reportedly-bid-farewell-to-the-ssd-market/

[brave sundial]

[quick locust]

Wat

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-evolving-just-backwards-gif-21647112

[brave sundial]

not the best but we need competition in the space

who do we have left that are consistently good... crucial, samsung..... and?

[quick locust]

Theres kioxia?

[brave sundial]

[quick locust]

Lexar maybe

[brave sundial]

see, I know about brands like them but they don't really have the presence the other 2 I just listed

I have a gen4 lexar as my second drive, been solid.

[quick locust]

Cause they mostly do server

WD is pretty widespread though

[coarse nimbus]

never buy a crucial ive learned my lesson

how the fuck can you not have stock of a 2022 drive for a warranty ???

[willow schooner]

All the 9070/XT videos and reviews are irrelivant, as their opinion was based on the MSRP being 150-200 less than it is now

What a deal (Now that the MSRP models are all sold)

[coarse nimbus]

but we are still on the same page with the 5070 being a worthless card?

if it existed i mean

[willow schooner]

Its crap cos of its price, Same as these cards

[coarse nimbus]

but the vram...unless its marketed for 1080p

[visual elbow]

microcenter has tons of msrp cards

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/685208867663249439/1347709144366321745/image.png?ex=67cccf73&is=67cb7df3&hm=376bcf75ced9a805402a5587c80b0a5b5b8053c4f93bd665016d8180659c731a&

[willow schooner]

Until those sell, the batch is through...and they all rise in price by 200

[visual elbow]

That only applied to one eu retailer :p

[willow schooner]

The 1st batch is AMD subsidized

No, it doesnt

[visual elbow]

link?

[willow schooner]

AMDs own messaging

[coarse nimbus]

brother...how do you think the US wont also get shafted on a higher price when we have the tariffs?

[visual elbow]

stock has been here for months

shit should be made here anyway :p

[coarse nimbus]

nvidia already raised the price of their stock that was over here before the T word happened

[visual elbow]

thats becasue they have no comp

[willow schooner]

Yes, and once those few 1000 GPUs sell, the next batch will be 150-200 more expensive

[coarse nimbus]

and its not even sanctioned under those since it comes from countries not effected..

[visual elbow]

and those were mostly aibs

[willow schooner]

they are ALL AIBs. there are no reference models lol

[visual elbow]

not for nv

[coarse nimbus]

jesus...800 for that tuf model

thats a fucking scam

[willow schooner]

there is no reference AMD cards

[visual elbow]

yeah just dont buy

the giga is the best

[coarse nimbus]

think he meant the nvidia cards i mentioned

[willow schooner]

He replied to my 9070 comment

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coarse nimbus]

funny though all those asrock cards

but using MC as a metric for "see you can get these cards" is horrible since most people in the US dont live near one to get the in store only purchase on those

[willow schooner]

The answer to that question is AMD. AMD will be supporting major retailers to help them achieve these pricing levels. Note that this support will only apply to a limited number of GPUs.

While gamers will be able to purchase AMD’s new RDNA 4 GPUs at MSRP prices, these GPUs will achieve this pricing level by using what are effectively “AMD discounts.” Once this support ends, retailers will sell GPUs for their natural prices, which are dictated by their purchasing and shipping/distribution costs.

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/retailers-claim-they-cant-buy-amd-radeon-rx-9070-series-gpus-at-msrp-prices/

[visual elbow]

those are supply issues within your own country then

idk

[willow schooner]

Those MSRP prices are disappearing by the hour. the 699 cards will be 899 by monday

[visual elbow]

obv more cards will sell in US and for higher equivalent currency

[coarse nimbus]

I live in the US

[visual elbow]

Ah

[coarse nimbus]

im just ~2hrs at best away from a MC

so id have to drive at least 4 hrs just to get the in store deal on it..which isnt something most people are going to do

[molten flame]

9070XT is being scalped pretty bad in europe too

not so much in NA since there was a lot of availability

[narrow ingot]

im sorry to hear that

[coarse nimbus]

WoT player- opinion ignored

[narrow ingot]

D:

is it because of my server profile name?

if yes then this is the first time someone recognized the refrence in this server

[brave sundial]

damn as someone who used to play wot for 6 years I missed that

[narrow ingot]

why would you miss that

[brave sundial]

it's the guy who got fired from WG isn't it

[narrow ingot]

yes

[brave sundial]

[narrow ingot]

im pretty sure my steam library page for cod mw2 was serb with the file at is7

because that game was certainly "balanced"

[brave sundial]

[narrow ingot]

I used the quote as server profile mostly to mock the people that said NTW50 was balanced (the NTW of season 2 that have a kill range of 150m and very low drop)

[coarse nimbus]

i had 17k battles at least before quitting

[narrow ingot]

thats more than me

but also i am still a wot player right now

so idk whats better

oh i forgot i lost image perms for not talking in this chat for something like a year

my current account is at 4261 battles

[brave sundial]

I don't really follow wot much now these days. I think the last time I played for real was like 2016

[narrow ingot]

anyways

[coarse nimbus]

now i perma lost my account because i never logged in

[narrow ingot]

gpu launch are fucking shitshows nowadays

[coarse nimbus]

oh well

[narrow ingot]

50 series is somehow worse than 40 series

now this

[brave sundial]

PC atleast. I jumped on console in 2018 to 2020 from time to time and then they legitimately lobotomised that version

with the devs straight up saying "nah" to people asking if they could somewhat revert back that big controversial update, 5.0 or something

[narrow ingot]

console is a completely different game devved by completely different teams

[brave sundial]

yeah ik

and then I played blitz religiously from day 1 launch to 2019 because I basically maxxed all the tech trees I wanted to and playing ranked felt like cancer

[narrow ingot]

blitz is definitely a lot worse than normal wot

played it for a tiny bit at release and never again

[brave sundial]

and now.. they're ruining that one too.. I mean.. not like it was that great in the first place but still

[narrow ingot]

well

it is set up to be a money farm

and it is

[brave sundial]

me and my cousin didn't spend a single penny, we made that vow when we started after we spent a bit on pc

[toxic wigeon]

Not gonna lie a water cooled gpu would be super funny to get but I wonder on the true practically and guarantee of rops.

[narrow ingot]

i do spend some money on wot

but not that much

[brave sundial]

the shift to unreal

[narrow ingot]

If i spend a lot of time on the game, then paying a bit of money for more enjoyment isnt that bad

better than buying games off steam sale that i will never play anyways

which is like half of my library

[brave sundial]

the game atleast imo didn't feel like it was designed for mobile first with the gameplay. It felt like the jank of pc but ported down to mobile devices. I mean atleast to me

[narrow ingot]

it is very much not

[brave sundial]

the shift to unreal engine legit feels like they're stripping away that identity

[narrow ingot]

games that require you to finesse the aim are never meant for mobile

mobile fps are equally, or even worse in that regard

[brave sundial]

I mean I suppose I didn't spent anything so not much to be sad about..

[narrow ingot]

you did spend your time tho

[burnt coyote]

just play cod mobile in a android emulator with a controller easy fix

[brave sundial]

what if you played with a keyboard and mouse on ipad

that was my setup, alongside a proper laptop too. blitz wasn't bad for short battles

[narrow ingot]

but then why not just play normal wot

which is just better

the reason the mobile games exists are for you to play on the go

[brave sundial]

idk, I just liked how much quicker you get into the action with blitz

[narrow ingot]

if you bring out keyboard or controller then it kinda defeats the point imo

[narrow ingot]

i guess

[brave sundial]

with team sizes being halved too you legit have more of an impact with your decisions in matches too

[narrow ingot]

for me the mobile gaminess just kills any thought of playing it

but also you are playing against actual toddlers

[brave sundial]

ofc that comes with the caveat of poor gameplay from bad randoms also being more impactful

[narrow ingot]

comparing to wot pc which is a quater toddlers, a quater bots, a quater of people that dont deserve hands and maybe a quater human

which is why you should play warthunder

where one man being good at the game can literally just win the game themselves

[brave sundial]

war thunder is legitimate torture. I am not spending my time with any gaijin published game again

[narrow ingot]

why not

i legit enjoyed my stay with warthunder a lot more than wot

since you can singlehandedly win games at times

though my enjoyment from gaming are mostly from winning

and stomping people

which warthunder do satisfy me

and grinding

[brave sundial]

atleast in wot the grind isn't as egregious and pushed to make you spend. Gaijin feel like a whole another tier of that

[narrow ingot]

warthunder is definitely worse

but you can defi[nitely grind without spending much of a dime

[brave sundial]

Maybe years ago I'd have the patience for that, but now I just don't.

[narrow ingot]

though gaijin definitely pushes you for prems

at least premium time

since it speeds up grind greatly

also you can just play the vehicle you like and nothing else

and grind that way

which is a path

grinded til around 8.7 with non premium vehicles alone

[molten flame]

do they still have ammo that you can only buy with real money in WoT?

[narrow ingot]

which, i shall traslate, mostly done by commiting crimes aginst humanity with Zsu-57-2, su-9, and Tu-2S

nope

not anymore

its just ammo, and more expensive ammo

which some people didnt like because it does mean a lot more people shoot gold now

[molten flame]

One big thing I never liked about WoT is the spotting mechanics where vehicles just completely vanish until you spot them

[narrow ingot]

and running pure gold

well id say dont consider wot as a tank game

more of a mmo tactic game with tank skin on it

[brave sundial]

and then there's armored warfare....

or what remains of it

[narrow ingot]

oh yeah that game does exist

i guess

and uhh

i might, just might preorder bf6

will need to play beta but i have been out of a fps for so long

[gray sable]

How do I check if a tv is 4k

[prime jasper]

look at the model on the back. google it.

[molten flame]

Press the menu button

Should say resolution and refreshrate somewhere

[viral canopy]

Will keyboard and mouse be possible on consoles ?

[midnight crypt]

It already is possible but depends on the game

[viral canopy]

For BF is not possible today

[brave sundial]

I mean could be for the next BF

Cod has it

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/amd-radeon-rx-9050-product-category-listed-by-mexican-retailer

64-bit 8GB incoming

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqKJN7MGZGQ

[coarse nimbus]

Its a shame all these companies involved in the manufacturing process were blindsided by these revelations

[pale quartz]

they weren't

gaming isn't important to AMD or Nvidia and it hasn't been for 2+ years, all supply is more or less going to HPC/enterprise because it costs $40k+ per unit to buy and they are already backlogged in supply for months

they could have if they absolutely wanted to to have decent supply but gaming is a fringe market and AMD don't make any money, only Nvidia do, and even at that, those margins are tiny compared to profits from other buyers

[molten flame]

AMD makes over 3x more profit from CPUs than GPUs

[short coral]

Battlefield 1, low fps issues. My pc has less than 60% cpu usage in total, the game just won't take what it needs.

Any way to fix it?

[midnight crypt]

Uninstall

[serene fable]

my steam DL is being shitty. keeps going in and out down to 0 ?

[ivory creek]

my ea app also kept going down to 0mb download randomly for a while, i have no idea why. while when i tested my connection at other sites there were no problems

from full speed to 0

[coarse nimbus]

shout out to the ea app not allowing you to set your own download speed, very pog of them

[ivory creek]

new nvidia hotfix driver is out apparently

and it will not show up in the nvidia app

[coarse nimbus]

does it matter for a poor 3070?

[ivory creek]

you should join the nvidia discord if you have any interest

[prime jasper]

I thought this channel was the nvidia discord

[coarse nimbus]

no no, its the amd one now

[pale quartz]

no the newest just contains the .70 series release

[ivory creek]

the driver fixed several problems with 5080 and 5090 when being overclocked aswell according to their post

[pale quartz]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/242141/

[ivory creek]

i just read what nvidia say at their discord. idk what that is

[molten flame]

9070XT is faster than 4090 in Monster Hunter Wilds lol

Game doesn't like Nvidia

[coarse nimbus]

capcom dropping the ball

[brave sundial]

So how much Lisa paying em huh?

[pale quartz]

nothing, it's just a very CPU demanding game

rdna GPUs feature better in CPU bound scenarios

[brave sundial]

I know. But thanks for that fact

never knew it before

[pale quartz]

[coarse nimbus]

https://youtu.be/SlqyoKkjqJ8 only on the first 2 powercolor cards and already this is

[molten flame]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/undocumented-backdoor-found-in-bluetooth-chip-used-by-a-billion-devices/

[spring sapphire]

Saw this as I am currently working on a board for an automatic fish feeder 😂😂great.

[prime jasper]

whew, good thing I never leave my house

[nocturne drift]

I just got a 3080 12gb for 300usd. So I tested the thermal grizzly duronaut.

[ivory creek]

i payed like 1000usd for my 3090 second hand, but this was years ago. i felt like i made a good deal

[nocturne drift]

It's perfect. The viscosity is thicker than the watery kryonaut, and not super dry like the mx6. You do not even need a spatula to spread it. The card is a 3080 12gb tuf. Fan speed%= gpu core temp. The result is amazing. Around 350w load. 66-68c core temp. 74-76c hotspot temp. Which is sooo good.

Ease of apply, performance is soo good.

I will be repasting my 3090 strix with it prob next week when the kritical pads comes, but this is just a fantastic product.

[ivory creek]

i accidently let a power cord fall into one of the 3 fans tho and its been making alot of noice since, i think a ballbearing or something is messed up

[nocturne drift]

You can change a fan easy

Prob under 20 bucks on Ali

[ivory creek]

im not experienced enough to take my card apart tho

[prime jasper]

no one is experienced until they experience it

so eeeeet

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/nvidia-addresses-black-screen-issues-with-another-geforce-hotfix-driver-572-75

another hotfix for black screens

[midnight crypt]

[molten flame]

that's the 5th update for black screens

seems to only affect RTX 5000 series

[coarse nimbus]

why patch when you can just buy another gpu?? saves money that way

[molten flame]

what if drivers were behind a paywall

[coarse nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-huang-rich-money-money-make-it-rain-ai-money-gif-395075080650123595

[molten flame]

Nvidia probably wouldn't lose marketshare if they did that sadly

[coarse nimbus]

at least you would know the drivers would work

[coarse nimbus]

lets fucking goooo another automated micron(crucial) email to let me know the same thing as before... drive isnt shipping till the 21st (but it could probably change again who knows...)

[lilac crater]

hello someone have problem with ps5 controller on pc?
i play on steam and i look down all the time and i dont know how to change this

[pale quartz]

unplug your mouse and any other connected device related to I/O

[lilac crater]

I/O?

[pale quartz]

input devices

[lilac crater]

nah i cant get it

when i play with ps3 controller i can play with mouse and keyboard at the same time with controller

operate heli with controller and when i fall down take mouse and shoot normaly

[midnight ledge]

So just to be clear, if I never got an invite from Battlefield lab then I won't be playing the Alpha? What's the deal? Getting a little FOMO lol

[willow schooner]

Basically yes. It is currently invite only, and they only select users in the US or Europe.

They have stated that as they progress through playtests, more and more players will be invited. So all we can do is wait for invites, or more info related to playtest availability

[quick locust]

Perfume card

[coarse nimbus]

the goonmax 9000.. @candid flame already got 2

[prime jasper]

I can't even see my video card without considerable effort. I did PC building all wrong.

[coarse nimbus]

thats why companies went to vertical mounting possibilities show off that design

[prime jasper]

Maybe i'll just get some acryllic-based paint and let my kid paint the housing and backplate

[quick locust]

Just have gpu on desk with PCIe extenders to the case

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-spec-leak-4608-cuda-and-16-8gb-gddr7-rtx-5050-with-2560-cuda-and-8gb-gddr6

RTX 5050 will use more power than RTX 4060

128-bit with 8GB GDDR6

[toxic wigeon]

https://youtu.be/OR-ADhxY2q4?si=tPx8KvYzwhudBMrA

[quick locust]

Water cooling with extra step

[shell apex]

Anyone else agree they need to bring back larger squad sizes 5 like in BF4 or 6 would be even better, I also miss that niche support feature from Hardline where you could grab health and ammo just by walking up to an Assault or Support class such a good feature but it never came back

[serene solar]

5 would make it more balanced overall

6 would upset the balance of 64 player games (you can't form full squads of 6 in 64, basic math)

[serene fable]

Any program or way to force using HDR when not using fullscreen?
I noticed some games don't use it when I play borderless

[pale quartz]

rtx hdr

[iron crown]

anyone know an app to prevent your mouse going to another monitor when gaming without having to go to settings each time

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/sony-playstation-5-pro-to-feature-fsr4-like-upscaling

PSSR is just modified FSR4

PS5 Pro still has weak HDMI bandwidth, only 32 Gbps while Xbox Series does 40 Gbps

but no consoles do the full 48 Gbps that HDMI 2.1 is capable of

wouldn't recommend using 4K display with any console if you care about having both color accuracy and 120Hz

[worn phoenix]

big if true

[willow schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/big-if-true-big-if-true-gif-18577099

[brave sundial]

True if it was big:

[dusty sigil]

Im okay gaming in 720i

[blazing lynx]

Where do I sign up for it ???

[glad quest]

Battlefield website and go to the labs tab

[blazing lynx]

Ah not in Australia yet ...

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0cQQmiDhfo

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/galax-rtx-5090d-hof-xoc-with-two-12v-2x6-connectors-breaks-speed-way-world-record-at-3-27-ghz

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/radeon-rx-9070-xt-outperforms-geforce-rtx-5080-in-cyberpunk-2077-and-3dmark-after-undervolting-3-3-ghz-clock-reached

undervolting beast

[willow schooner]

OUTPERFORMS 5080*

*when you run it at 4K medium settings, with no RT, no PT, overclock it, then pair it with the fastest CPU on the market.

[midnight crypt]

4k ultra it seems

[molten flame]

it is 4K at ultra but without RT

[midnight crypt]

You can also just OC a 5080 to beat it anyways

[molten flame]

same with 4080, it has more OC headroom than the 5080

overclocked 4080 Super will beat the brakes off a 5080 overclocked

[willow schooner]

MB, but having to put a bunch of asterix' beside a result makes it invalid.

9070XT is still a decent card at MSRP tho. Hopefully they iron out its bugs

[brave sundial]

This is so funny. It's exclusive to the 9070 series lmao

[candid flame]

what's the point lol

typical useless AI slop

[midnight crypt]

That's the point

[brave sundial]

I doubt it even uses the hardware on the card other than for image gen

[quick locust]

Just run DeepSeek locally

[white bolt]

Have u guys or girls used nvidias automatic oc tool? Is it worth it? ( I dont know anything about oc :D)

[viral ibex]

maybe it isn't optimized for 3090ti, but for me it just caused stability issues

[willow schooner]

Its kinda useless TBH. Nvidia GPUs boost to higher clocks anyways, so id just ignore the auto OC tool.

[white bolt]

Oh ok then 🫣

[cursive idol]

UC is the way.

[toxic wigeon]

Jesus this CPU is such a massive upgrade for rendering.

It would take me 5 minutes to render a 10 minute 1440p video and now it's doing it in 2.

(5800x3d to 9800x3d)

[white bolt]

What is UC? 🙂

[coarse nimbus]

Under clock?

[willow schooner]

Maybe they meant undervolt, or UV

[coarse nimbus]

so that 9070xt was doing 361w, but a 4080 is 300-325 stock under heavy load?

[midnight crypt]

Ye AMD gpus strong suit ain't efficiency

[coarse nimbus]

the xt is just "throw more power at it"

[quick locust]

Yeah 9070 is far better in efficiency

Than the 9070 xt

Only place where I care about my power efficiency is my car though

[coarse nimbus]

5070ti beats the xt in performance (couple %?) and with a fair bit less power... but the problem is youll never find it at msrp making it not a realistic competitor vs the xt?

[quick locust]

The msrp is also quite higher

600 vs 750

[coarse nimbus]

tfw you forget its supposed to be 600 vs 750

[quick locust]

Ya both are double rn lol

[coarse nimbus]

i totally forgot what the xt list price was supposed to be after seeing all the more beefed up fancy cards prices to justify their upgrades

[quick locust]

Same with Nvidia cards rn

Big bucks

[coarse nimbus]

[molten flame]

because the RX 9000 series is the only Radeon generation with real AI hardware

RX 7000 series just basically mimicked AI acceleration and did it pathetically

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhGsQvDaEPo

[midnight crypt]

tldw not worth it unless you do productivity stuff

[molten flame]

doesn't require any tweaking to make sure games use the 3D cores unlike the 7950X3D

[willow schooner]

How is that achieved, or is it covered in the video?

[molten flame]

not even a minute in lol

requires latest chipset driver

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/556205794241151021/1349009151602200596/image.png?ex=67d18a2d&is=67d038ad&hm=2f3fb987d656a12cbdfd877fd2ac5299da7592d0c8334337e2bae05f6ea8c810&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1707&height=960

best CPU for adobe premier

14900K and 285K are cheaper ofc

[cursive idol]

underclock indeed

but as 9800x3d, 9950x3d is way overpriced...

[white bolt]

Ah ok 🙂

[viral ibex]

sadly in EU the 9800x3d is still slightly above msrp

[white bolt]

If u even can grab one of those before they sell out

[small zinc]

Interesting to see the gaming benchmarks are the exact same thing as the 9800 X3D

Literally .3 frames difference over a 16 game geomean average

Interesting to see the twin CCX design match the performance of the single

[little hedge]

who watches that slice of poopface? lol

[small zinc]

9070 XT combos available on Newegg if anyone is still looking for one.

[primal pier]

Have tech related meme

[spring sapphire]

Gamers nexus > Linus > jayz2cents

[toxic wigeon]

Gn our beloved.

[ivory creek]

what is the option called DLSS native that has started to show up in games now? i thought dlss was scaling and if its at native resolution does that mean it somehow try to improve the picture further?

[worn phoenix]

DLAA

[ivory creek]

oh its just dlaa

thanks

[worn phoenix]

yeah dlss without the upscaling

basically taa but with all the positives and none of the negatives

[ivory creek]

ive tried dlaa in some games and it still give the slight ghosting that dlss does. i think best still is smaa

or what it was called

[worn phoenix]

there are a bunch yeah

in my experience dlss has been pretty flawless other than a select few games

[ivory creek]

yeah dlss is nice, in a few games like you say it gives noticable ghosting and artifacts tho

[ivory creek]

ah damn i think my steelseries rival 310 that ive had for like 7 years just broke. the scroll goes up or down randomly when i use it

is there any mouse thats as durable as this that will last me 5 years or more lol?

[brave sundial]

I recommend logitech..

Mouse I got 5 years ago still going strong

[ivory creek]

awesome, will check em out

[vernal pendant]

logitech has no QC on their midrange mice, either buy one of their $10 office mice or a g pro wireless but absolutely nothing in between

[brave sundial]

I think mine is a midrange

It still functions as good as it did 5 years ago

[vernal pendant]

i've been burned by bad scrollwheels and double clicking too many times

[brave sundial]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g703-hero-wireless-gaming-mouse.910-005638.html

oh nvm don't think it is

really did get it for a bargain on amazon for £35 got rebates from doing a study on covid at the time so it was basically free for me.

After having 2 side buttons I want some more utility, feel like upgrading to the G502X

[ivory creek]

Endgame Gear OP1 8k got the best total latency score on rtings

idk how durable they are tho

[prime jasper]

windows defender decided Fan Control was a virus today. cool.

sounded like a hurricane with all my fans running at 100%

[brave sundial]

where you getting these brands from

[ivory creek]

rtings

[brave sundial]

honestly I would go for a mouse that offers good latency and is decently light while still offering plenty of utility and extra functionality for non-gaming use.

Personally, I could never see myself getting one of those ultra light and small competitive mice

My hand would not like that

But hey if that's your thing, you have plenty of options then

[ivory creek]

i bought the best gaming keyboard according to rtings, the nuphy field 75 HE

and it has been amazing

so maybe endgame is good too

but endgame is just the best latency, the best overall seem to be razer viper v3 pro

but its not wired, hm

[coarse nimbus]

they took away my beloved g600 and wouldnt warranty it because no stock ofc

[ivory creek]

i thought if u still have warranty and it runs out they have to replace it with something similar or better

[coarse nimbus]

i think it was.. oh we have no stock of that right now, but you could pick something- cant remember if i had to price match or it was like a pre determined list

but like none of the other mice match the g600s functionality for me so it was just big sad all around