technology

[high geyser]

Im convinced they are a troll idk

[hardy plume]

think about it this way, we are now getting into cgi teritory with the concent being produced

[high geyser]

but I dont want to lower settings

[hardy plume]

we now have access to UDIMs in unreal for example

[high geyser]

and theres a limit still

with lowered settings

[hardy plume]

we can literally build cg quality games

[high geyser]

lowering settings cannot change a games base line performance cost

[hardy plume]

and no hardware will run that in real time

now thats on the far far next 5 years high end

[high geyser]

lol

thats really silly

humans couldnt go to the moon without space ships

we should just stay on earth tbh

[hardy plume]

but already now the complexity of the content and the quality we now have, has kinda ran into diminishing returns on hardware and renderer optimisation side

[high geyser]

thats so silly to say

[hardy plume]

so dlss and such is where a lot of investment will be put in now

and dlss 4 is already 100 fold better than og dlss

[high geyser]

i cannot imagine saying "we shouldnt be doing that" to technology and human advancements

[hardy plume]

and dlss 5 and 6 will be even better

[high geyser]

humanity would lose their mind if we couldnt build and create technology

[hardy plume]

this

[high geyser]

the benefit is almost double performance gains lol

you are trolling clearly

we can run them lol

[hardy plume]

my 3090ti said it can

xD

[high geyser]

real time

read

LOL

[hardy plume]

real-time vs offline

cg is rendered offline

you can throw 16k textures on everything and dont care about how viable it is

and maya or whatever then spends a day rendering a frame

games are real time

[high geyser]

like it or not AI is going to be the center of computer graphics from now on

[hardy plume]

we have the limitation of having to produce 60 fps

[high geyser]

hes still explaining

[hardy plume]

http://waylon-art.com/LearningUnreal/UE3-11-MaterialBasics_files/image002.jpg this is what materials looked like 10 ish years ago

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/media_assets/images/images/001/041/474/large/03_MasterVsInstance.jpg?1677815328

is them now

[high geyser]

I think its really funny how you complain about AI being a moral issue for creators but then call game devs trash for not being good enough without AI hahaha

[hardy plume]

and that goes for every asset, every animation, every vfx

we now simulate actual gpu particles for explosions and debris

we dont do some 2d prebaked stuff anymore

[high geyser]

humans have always created technology to help their creative visions become true/easier to manifest

[hardy plume]

everything becomes more complex, physically accurate, and iterable

[high geyser]

there is AI slop but framgen is not that

[hardy plume]

framegen is only needed for pathtracing

pathtracing is what cgi uses for the lighting

[high geyser]

photorealism =/ more demanding

[hardy plume]

and you need framegen to run that in a game

its a gimmick

[high geyser]

you can have demanding styalized games

[worn phoenix]

need is a strong word

[hardy plume]

100% agree

[high geyser]

you need to to run good lol

pathtracing is DEMANDING

[hardy plume]

nvidia should bring back trx

gtx*

[worn phoenix]

60 is about fine for me, granted that's with dlss quality

[hardy plume]

gimme my standart gtx card for 500 bucks with 16gb and im happy

if someone wants the full slew of crazy rtx shinanigans have the rtx line

[high geyser]

thats a completelydifferent argument lol

[hardy plume]

well duh

[high geyser]

framegen is good tech when implemented well end of story

[hardy plume]

the more people involved the slower and more wasteful something gets

[high geyser]

its not stealing from creators

[hardy plume]

look at any modern government

10000s of people. nothing gets done. money goes burn

same with a ubisoft game

1000s of people.

[high geyser]

"If it's not possible on a game, then they've fucked up and should be shunned." you

[hardy plume]

money go brrr

another issue here tho is

a lot of the times, and just recently that mindset changed,

are you making a new engine for every game

or overhauling it to get new tech, get new cool stuff

and so if you have 4 CODs they all might be using the IW tech but its fundamentally different versions and forks

[high geyser]

i feel like people that complain about DLSS and framegen havent been around in tech for a long time lol shit was 10x worse in the early 2000s

[hardy plume]

just now are COD and ubisoft with snowdrop, unifying it so that everyone uses the same branch of the engine

[high geyser]

you were lucky if a game ran at all even on good PCs

[hardy plume]

makes stuff cheaper and easier to upkeep and fix

[high geyser]

aka you're blaming devs for not being good enough

[hardy plume]

word

[high geyser]

while not even understanding the basic terms and how the tech works

[hardy plume]

thats not true completely

think about it this way right

the majority of the games we build, are for the most part, console first. not completely, but those are the easiest performance targets to go after.

[high geyser]

its needlessly antagonistic to blame devs for using new tech. there are unoptimized games but Nvidia has stats that say that 90% of gamers turn on their technology in games so obviously devs are going to implement that tech

[hardy plume]

so we push whats possible within a set framework

when it comes to pc then

we dont just have 1 or 2 configurations

we have 1000000s

that shit is hard to optimize for

ESPECIALLY

as games get more expensive in terms of demands, and complexity.

[high geyser]

if a game comes out and it runs at 60FPS on most hardware with appropriate settings Id say the devs did good enough job unless its like a competitive FPS game or something then you need more. But if the game RUNS at minimum 60 FPS and the visuals are reasonable than I dont see ANY problem with them adding framgen or DLSS like that stuff is a benefit to everyone

[hardy plume]

like.. if everyone would just buy a 4080 it be all fine. literally. or a 3080ti

because then we can go " yeah thats the set target. go ham"

i know

thats the issue with PC optimisation in many cases. so you try to build a wide enough range of settings and options and hope do testing obviously, but can never catch everything

[high geyser]

thats another thing DLSS and framegen will help lower end cards hold value for LONGER

[hardy plume]

and AND then there is the person on a 3060 who wants to play bf2042 in 2k on ultra

like what are the devs supposed to do there

[high geyser]

no lol

[hardy plume]

"mate ... that game wont run on that at those settings. what are you doing"

[high geyser]

worse how

worse value? maybe now but worse performance no

you cant just say "worse" there are so many factors

[hardy plume]

nvidias cards have almost no real uplift

like the uplift without dlss and co is like 10 to 14%

[high geyser]

20% is a decent amount

[hardy plume]

yeah as i said before

nvidia should make gtx a thing again

like add enough tensor cores for dlss

[high geyser]

4090 was 1600 and 20% worse

[hardy plume]

but leave the rest and just stack more everything else for better rasta performance

[high geyser]

5090 costs 2000 and is 20% better

at the end of the day you dont NEED to buy these products

these arent necessitys

[hardy plume]

you can get 3090s on ebay for like 700 to 800 bucks these days

id say thats a good deal

[high geyser]

these are only for people who want the latest and greatest

you can get by on a 3000 series

[hardy plume]

well i would suggest if you go 3000 to get a 3080 or 90

you need the vram and speed now

[sweet wing]

just make that gtx 1650 can play bruv

[hardy plume]

monsterhunter wilds on ultra in 1080p eats like 14gb

[sweet wing]

we need vibe mechanics and alot of stuff

[hardy plume]

xD

[sweet wing]

like nuclear warheads

[hardy plume]

well i can tell you waht the basic requirements for UE5 for devs are

minimum 32gb ram
nvme ssd prefered
minimum 2080super
12 core cpu

you can derrive requirements for games going forward from that

you should at least upgrade to 32 gigs across teh board anyway

and 12gb of vram

just to have the room

fair

get a ps5 then 😄

thats will be cheaper

[high geyser]

cant expect the latest and greatest for free

i had to grind for 2 years to get my shit all situated and it was worth it

[latent pelican]

Last time I've bought top gpu was 2010 which was ati 5870.. I remember it being pretty good for BfBC2

It only cost 320€.. though was topped half a year later by nvidia.. 400 series or something

[pseudo rock]

jesus fgn christ lmao 52 cores?

still not as many as threadripper. wild if its on desktop and not server

[pseudo rock]

sounds about what you'd think it would be really

[toxic wigeon]

Was thinking 52 cores for a desktop processor is mad but it screams einefficiency to me.

[pseudo rock]

if it draws 250w that means each core uses about 5w

[toxic wigeon]

That's still a lot more than what a CPU should take.

In my opinion.

150 is pushing it. 100 is about fine.

[silver citrus]

Hey, i'm sure there's alot of this coming up so my apologies, but does anyone know how to fix these server issues with not being able to connect to EA servers? Like, almost every other EA game works but 2042, no matter what it will not connect to EA servers, no issues with other games either, restarted router, checked dns, i dont think i'm the problem here lol

[pale quartz]

playstation network is currently down, its not EAs servers

[silver citrus]

ohhhhhhh 😄 thank you kind wizard

[pale quartz]

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-5060-leak-reveals-16gb-memory-config-for-both

5070 with 12GB but 5060Ti and 5060 have 16GB

[coarse nimbus]

but its different ram... so 12gb>16 right?

[sleek wraith]

Im.buying a 5070 ti super when they make one. That'll be it for me

[quaint kestrel]

Idk buying a 50 series seems so stupid when 9070 will cost 500-600 usd

[sleek wraith]

I don't run many games on my pc so I mainly just want it for bf. I have like 3 games installed. I got 2tb and only use 500gbs. I just want the 5070 for slightly better fps is all

I'm not talking about fake frames either

I don't use dlss

[quaint kestrel]

So its even a worse buy then

[sleek wraith]

Better than a 4070

[quaint kestrel]

Just buy amd

Better raw performance

[sleek wraith]

Eh

[quaint kestrel]

💀

[terse glade]

👀

[rare sphinx]

just save for a 4090 isntead of a 5070

[quaint kestrel]

9070xt is what 10-20% less in raw performance compared to a 5090 and its 500-600 dollars

[sleek wraith]

Brother a 4090 is like 1500. A 5070 super is gonna be like 800

[quaint kestrel]

And youre paying 800 for a 5070 super

[rare sphinx]

yea a 5070 super msrp maybe

[quaint kestrel]

Wont even use ai

[sleek wraith]

Wait I gotta look at this. I didn't know they were realsing any gpus

[quaint kestrel]

💀

[worthy mural]

depend where you live bro

[sleek wraith]

Comes out march

[sleek wraith]

Us

[quaint kestrel]

Youre only paying nvidia for ai

[rare sphinx]

i say get something youll never have to worry about again

if your willing to properly set money aside get a 4090

[quaint kestrel]

Or this yeah

[sleek wraith]

Well this 9070 is looking promising

Gonna have to wait on specs from it

[rare sphinx]

current gpus are already fine

[worthy mural]

i think i go to pcpartpicket will min 2000euro for it

[rare sphinx]

the new gpus are overkill

[worthy mural]

in france

[rare sphinx]

and the 50s series is proof that moores law is very real

[sleek wraith]

I just look for max fps I can get at moderately well graphics

[rare sphinx]

4070 ti

[sleek wraith]

I have one

[quaint kestrel]

Just play lower res

[rare sphinx]

then stop looking for better cards

2k rez on 4070 ti literally gets great fps

[sleek wraith]

Yeah but I'm pulling like 240 fps on bf with the 4070

[rare sphinx]

dog

you dont need anymore

[worthy mural]

i have a 4080 super personnallu

[quaint kestrel]

At what res

[sleek wraith]

I was looking at the 1080 I think

[rare sphinx]

bruh do 1440

[sleek wraith]

Might be 1440 but I doubt

[quaint kestrel]

What

[rare sphinx]

1440 or higher is a must

[quaint kestrel]

Not really

They just look a lil doodoo in 1080p

[rare sphinx]

1440p looks great

[quaint kestrel]

On newergames

[rare sphinx]

4070 ti is designed for 1440p

[quaint kestrel]

But you can play fine on fhd still

[rare sphinx]

not 1080p

[quaint kestrel]

Ngl id still go fhd just for extra fps considering the upcoming games barely run 60fps on high end cards on 2-4k

But thats just U5 things tbh

[pale quartz]

you'll become CPU limited at that point

[wet ledge]

Hey everyone. Is there a fix for the high CPU usage in FF2042? I have a 2700x with 32gb of ram. I love all BF the games, but this is really getting on my nerves, wanting me to uninstall. I have doen the whole "user.cfg" file in the root folder. The whole user.cfg like seems like a joke, it doesnt work for me. Any real answers please. Thanks #BFFAN

[midnight crypt]

Is it causing any issues?

[brazen holly]

No clue. Please tell me you're UK based?

I've got a 5600 sat here doing nothing that will work just fine for an x370 or any AM4 platform

(As long as you update your BIOS)

[wet ledge]

Thanks for the offer, but Im in South Africa😉

[steep wadi]

can i get help

when i start the game

i get notification

that this file doesnt have app installed or smting like that

[small yarrow]

How do i join battlefield labs everytime i try to sign in it shows me an error message stating please try again with playtest

[tawny bronze]

same with me

[silk comet]

The application has encountered an error. It doesn't appear to have affected your data. Let's start againtest.

[small yarrow]

yeah that is the exact error i get too

[woeful island]

Labs site down for everyone?

The application has encountered an error. It doesn't appear to have affected your data. Lets start againtest.

[molten flame]

https://twitter.com/graham_brn/status/1888049858747187634

Graham (@graham_brn) on X

@DoesItPlay1 I’ve just tested this. You cannot pair a disc drive to a PS5 if PSN is down.

Given that my collection is physical, my PS5 Pro is effectively bricked until PSN is up again.

X · Feb 8, 2025, 2:18 AM

disc drive won't even operate if PSN is down

[vale trout]

Yes I have the same issue

[burnt coyote]

LOL PS5

What a joke

[wet cloud]

I have the Same Problem too

[worn phoenix]

huh, i wonder what all the physical media nerds are gonna do now

so much for owning your games

[vast valley]

The crazy thing, is even with the physical copy owned, you don't actually own it. You just lease the license.

It's the stupidest thing.

[jolly pelican]

I heard by some stupid source that they were hacked anybody know if that’s true

I’m just trying to put in my hours

[willow schooner]

No, you can't get the patch the console needs when first attaching the drive if you have no access to network. The drives work fine offline.

Post like these are deliberately ambiguous, and try to make it seem like they dont work offline at all.

[prime jasper]

for the engagement. i hate people.

[paper sky]

I guess if you got a ps5 pro in like the past 24 hours it would be an issue but that post is dumb as he says his collection is physical but just now connected it??

[willow schooner]

https://x.com/graham_brn/status/1888298443250245912?t=aEZfchZ-iRBXdcpo8ZhCLw&s=19

Graham (@graham_brn) on X

@YeezyWRLD_ @DoesItPlay1 You’re totally misunderstanding things, there is no “lie”. You cannot pair a disc drive when PSN is down… ayes, I purposefully unpaired my disc drive, that’s why I said that I TESTED it.

This is a preservation issue. If PSN goes down permanently some day your PS5 is e-waste.

X · Feb 8, 2025, 6:46 PM

[prime jasper]

thank you for the follow up. i'm void of social media lol

[willow schooner]

They deliberately unpaired it, knowing it would no longer work. All so they could post for likes on twitter.

Sony should package a driver with the device tho, but their original statement is bullshit

[pale quartz]

its because psn performs license checks on a disc when started for the first time, its a problem when stuff like this happens, but otherwise meh

[worn phoenix]

yep, no different to a key nowadays. Only real benefit is buying second hand

[granite sierra]

someone knows what's going on, I bought bf4 on steam and downloaded it, there was a problem with PunkBuster, but after a few hours I fixed it and it still kicks me out of the game with the message "connection to session lost". I checked the integrity of the files on Steam, installed bf4 again, and it's not the internet's fault.

[pale quartz]

are you running it through Linux?

[granite sierra]

no

windows11

[violet cedar]

labs still have errors?

[midnight crypt]

https://carbonic.dk/punkbusterguide/

[chrome sapphire]

Hey, I have a quick question. I can't join my friend in BF1 and I don't get an invite. Does anyone have a solution?

[pale quartz]

are they on another platform?

[chrome sapphire]

No on PC over steam

[pale quartz]

make sure the EA app is booted on both ends, other than that you can try verifying the game files

[paper geyser]

i keep getting a error trying to sign up for labs. is the sign up window closed?

[clever egret]

Servers are back for PS, I just checked it.

[cedar moth]

"In a desperate bid to escape the agony of Nvidia 5080/90 GPU shortages, some gamers are turning to an extreme solution: medically induced hibernation. Frustrated by scalpers and bots snatching up every new card within fractions of a second, these players are opting for a risky procedure that puts them into a deep sleep, set to wake only when supply stabilizes and prices return to sanity. While some argue it’s an overreaction, others see it as a necessary tactic in a world where the shame of owning an inferior GPU can result in unbearable and inescapable pain. Until then, they slumber, presumably dreaming in 240FPS and hoping to awaken in a future where multi-frame generated power is finally within their reach."

[pseudo rock]

couldnt say it better myself

[pseudo rock]

wasnt it revealed the 5060 will be 8gb and the 5060ti will be 16? Although this could be a chinese thing where theyre promptly selling CHEAPER 50 series cards with "enough" memory for AI before the US sanctions them\

[prime jasper]

Personally I'm never getting Nvidia anymore

After my 3070

[pseudo rock]

Same unless they magically give good value at the $500 price point

Started on the 2400g with integrated graphics, got a nitro + rx 580 later received a 1070ti -> 3070 -> 4070. Now on a nitro + 7900xtx

I don't think Nvidia is the better option anymore

[prime jasper]

Remember the days when they were monsters for value

Especially the 900 series and 10 series

[pseudo rock]

AND could overclock well

[prime jasper]

Remember the Titan cards

They were top dogs

Do they even still do them?

[pseudo rock]

Nvidia just had to release a 16gb 5070, doesnt matter if it's a worse yield lol

Nah the last came out around the 20 series

[prime jasper]

really?

Wow

[burnt coyote]

ill just stick with amd its cheaper

im not paying $1000 aud for a gpu

[pseudo rock]

They had the titan v and it performs like a 2080ti these days

Can be had for $200 on the used market last i checked

[prime jasper]

Well Titan cards were supposed to be like the 1090,2090

Shit like that

[pseudo rock]

Yep but not with games like Alan Wake 2 lol

[prime jasper]

Just software trick the Titan card to have DLSS4

It might keep up with a 5060 or even better

[pseudo rock]

I remember seeing modded titan v's, 2080tis and 3070s with higher capacity memory soldered on by shops and sold for ai work on ebay

[prime jasper]

I was gonna buy one ngl

[pseudo rock]

Unfortunately games won't use the extra memory they Frankenstein'd on

[pseudo rock]

I like the way you think

[prime jasper]

I mean it can't be that hard

Since well

[pseudo rock]

Eh lol

[prime jasper]

The card already had DLSS

Just gotta watch some Indian tech youtuber

[pseudo rock]

Depends on how the quanity and quality of the ai cores do workloads really

[prime jasper]

True I guess

[pseudo rock]

20xx tensor cores perform much more differently than 40xx ones

[prime jasper]

Hear me out

Frankenstein a 2080Ti

[pseudo rock]

Anythings possible with hacked drivers and the right hardware mods I suppose

If you can make a custom driver and bios for one, and somehow allow for the 20gbps gddr6 vs the regular 18, probably change how the capacitors and inductors etc perform and have the right knowledge set yeah

I don't know shit, but I imagine that has something to do with it

[prime jasper]

We just need a brand with Radeon raw performance and a ray tracing power of Nvidia

which intel is canna doing

Right now

Those b580 cards are so good for their prices

[light vine]

Ive got the email from EA that i should select some Prefrences for playtestin but im allways getting an error when im clicking the link from the email. Does anyone have a solution for that?

[earnest orchid]

any pay pigs in here getting a 5090?

[molten flame]

https://youtu.be/ue_IBysnP-0

best use for the 5090 is VR

[brazen holly]

Uh..no

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-dog-virus-gif-25207939

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-reportedly-listed-at-699-and-9900x3d-at-599-on-newegg-spotted-by-price-comparison-sites

[molten flame]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/DiAfF9whnU

and here we go...

[willow schooner]

Reason #1 to avoid cablemod trash 👆

[midnight crypt]

It ain't cablemod

[willow schooner]

It absolutely is

They are the moist shady cable company.

[midnight crypt]

That's not a cablemod cable

[willow schooner]

Spend 4 months denying responsibility for their shitty 12VHPWR cable issues...then did a mass recall.

[midnight crypt]

Anyways since the 5090 is already pulling more watts than the cable is rated for by default it ain't that strange

[willow schooner]

It is a cablemod cable

[midnight crypt]

moddiy is cablemod?

[willow schooner]

the OP stated a bit down the page that theyve been using a cable mod cable, so this thread is a bit confusing

Cant seem to find that reply now

[midnight crypt]

🤷‍♂️ He mentioned he was in talks with moddiy and derbauer

[willow schooner]

It does seem like they used one of those tho

PSU melted also. RIP

I absolutely dont trust any of these 3rd party cable makers for cables like this tho.

I had 2 cable mod 12VHPWR cables (One from before recall, one after they "fixed" the issues) and both would terminate GPU power randomly.

the one nvidia provided isnt pretty, but ive had zero issues since returning to it 😄

[prime jasper]

500 watts to play bf5

coming for you, mother nature

[stuck tangle]

is Intel Iris Xe 4 gb vram good?

[midnight crypt]

no

[stuck tangle]

cuz im seeing the system req on Insurgency Sandstorm and its uh ticked on all.

on Isonzo it aint up to the mark.

[modern gull]

2042 only uses 50-60w in my case, funny enough checked earlier just to check. 64p on battle of the bulge for reference. Quite open map and probably one of the lighter maps in terms of gpu hit

[prime jasper]

at least in the winter you'd get a nice little space heater

with the 5090 i mean

[modern gull]

Yes

[modern gull]

Also i don't have 5090, in case there is some confusion 😛

[prime jasper]

"huddle around the gaming PC, kids. I spent all the money for heat on the GPU"

[prime jasper]

nah, you're good. I just have an awkward way of talking

[modern gull]

I mean, since you mentioned 5090, i thought maybe you thought i was talking about the 5090 somehow

[prime jasper]

nah, the article stated he was playing Battlefield 5 drawing 500 watts when it caught on fire

or melted, burned, whatever. it exceded its thermal capacity

[modern gull]

For sure without vsync or fps limit if it was real

Did it say which cpu?

[prime jasper]

oh my god

Intel Core i7-13700KF

[modern gull]

User error 🤡

How it can pull 500w lol

[prime jasper]

the gpu

his 5090

[modern gull]

Maybe 4k

Yeah yeah i know but how he can do 500w, the gpu probably wont even reach close to 100% with that cpu 🤷

[prime jasper]

I have no idea if that's even correct. the reddit user who posted it had a pcpartpicker link to his build. he may have changed the cpu without saying anything

which, honestly, I hope he did. why would you spend that much on a video card and keep a 13700kf in it

[modern gull]

🤷

It's either user error or possibly what the others are talking about, but i can't comment on that

Maybe the cable just poor quality or something 🤷

[modern gull]

It was his old build probably, when i click new build it is 9800x3d, that probably should be fast enough to run it at 100% in most cases

[prime jasper]

ah, thanks for continuing my investigation. that makes more sense then.

[modern gull]

But as he stated himself " I dunno what to do really. I will try to submit warranty claims to Nvidia and Asus. But I'm afraid I will simply be shut down on the "3rd party cable" part. Fuck, man"

Rip guy

[coarse nimbus]

trying to go through asus RMA?

[prime jasper]

is the play tester thing usually handing out error messages?

[worn phoenix]

yeah people have been having issues

[broken cargo]

"The application has encountered an error. It doesn't appear to have affected your data. Lets start againtest." - Keep getting this when trying to sign up for Battlefield Labs. Does anyone have an idea why?

[prime jasper]

me too

[midnight terrace]

they have started sending mails ?

people are already testing ?

[zinc spindle]

same here

[midnight terrace]

oh yeah i have the same error

i think there is a global problem

[fast lily]

The application has encountered an error. It doesn't appear to have affected your data. Lets start againtest.( anyone know whats going on)?

[midnight terrace]

its general

everybody has it

[prime jasper]

Hey, do any of you know if you get a verifications email after signing up for Labs? I just did the form but after doing the last step it just spit me back to the starting page

[pale quartz]

you do not no

[prime jasper]

I see, well then one can only hope it went through then haha. Thanks

[prime jasper]

could not figure out why my gpu and cpu were floating around 55-60C after exiting BF2042. checked the task manager and had BioShock 2 Remastered running in the background the entire time

[molten flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328453138665439232/1338240627892027566/dump-tgif-schadenfreude-funny-Congratulations-You-shorted-out-RTX-4090-bit-Good-morning.mp4?ex=67aa5d34&is=67a90bb4&hm=1f74f5cae626c48b4eb0b2f06c891ff1ed5d1b2a67b7671379c4ffa2354c8148&

[coarse nimbus]

....i want to believe thats a joke video

[wise dune]

Me trying to socialize

[brazen holly]

I've seen a video of a guy cooking a steak using a hot plate powered by 32 USB cables

[prime jasper]

sounds like almost every basically homeless experiment lol

[terse glade]

My 2080super only draws max 125W because i set power target on 50%. Somehow it just barely has less performance as 100%. I tested it once on 99% usage and it gives around 7fps less which ain't worth the 100W more consumption

My gpu never saw a higher temp than 65c since years because of that

Altough its a one fan blower card (reference card)

[worn phoenix]

undervolting to the max

[still forum]

[dry pike]

No. No you don't Nvidia.

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/machine-preparing-old-man-gif-17184195

Jensen just wants to use your kitchen bro

[dry pike]

If he places a couple of 5090s in my oven we can talk

[prime jasper]

was he cooling them down in the oven/

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIKPjHX5ABk&t=0s

gives me more encouragement to pirate media

[brave sundial]

there wasn't enough already?

[coarse nimbus]

gotta make up the lost revenue from all those shitty shows no one wanted

[brave sundial]

while paying engineers much less compared to netflix and amazon

seriously it's almost 2x as less greedy cunts

[molten flame]

https://x.com/eurogamer/status/1888901667401183464

Eurogamer (@eurogamer) on X

Valve bans all Steam games that force players to watch advertisements
https://t.co/Sw51IyIJav

X · Feb 10, 2025, 10:43 AM

based

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/gabe-newell-heart-love-steam-gaben-gif-13796997168809376340

[coarse nimbus]

just dont ask him to ban minors from gambling in CS

[prime jasper]

half the toy shelves are "surprise eggs" now. gotta get 'em young.

[brazen holly]

Give it time they'll turn your pc in to an oven

[brave sundial]

[midnight crypt]

Free scam

[dry pike]

Its already a space heater, but it could be 2 spaceheaters

[rigid ermine]

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/solist-drone-projectile-unveiled-in-russia/

[prime jasper]

so...a tv guided missile?

[rigid ermine]

FPV

[digital hill]

But what if Jensen wants to give you a free 5090ti

[molten flame]

Gamers Nexus reported their 5090 FE was hitting 830 watts in transient spikes

[rigid ermine]

Disgusting.

[strong breach]

Good soup

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/548744139345494019/1084162442495529050/4x.gif

[cedar moth]

"Looks like we'll just have to rebrand our software from games to digital entertainment to avoid the ban" - Some exec right now

[midnight crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndmoi1s0ZaY

Melted cable investigation

[prime jasper]

cable connector got up to 150°C

[molten flame]

https://youtu.be/Ndmoi1s0ZaY

[molten flame]

Mine embedded

They should of done dual 12VHPWR connectors

Such a terrible connector for high power loads

the fact that der8auer can replicate the issue with ease is a tad more concerning than the last generation connector issues

[midnight crypt]

I mean the only replication step is just plugging it in

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[molten flame]

5090 pulls nearly 48 amps during full loads

likely the connector cable isn't a thick enough gauge to support the power requirements reliably

[midnight crypt]

The problem seems to be uneven load on the cable

atleast according to the video

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5YzMoVQyw

recalls incoming

[midnight crypt]

New scam

nice

[brave sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5YzMoVQyw

[solid maple]

i will be heartbroken if my 5090 melts

[midnight crypt]

When*

[candid flame]

novideo

[prime jasper]

maybe they'll start bundling Class C fire extinguishers with the cards

bogo deal

[orchid nest]

Steam leading the industry as per usual

[wet notch]

wasn't it the EA ceo that said something about wanting to put ads into games?

this feels like a response to that, unless EA said that long ago

[molten flame]

they started doing that with Battlefront 2 like 6-7 years ago

[pale quartz]

it's nothing new, they've been doing it for over a decade, way back since 3 and 4, it's in 2042/5/1 to a capacity with brand deals etc

this is specifically about banning monetisation models which rely on game ads, not banning advertisements in games

[wise dune]

Beep boop

[modern gull]

Oh he want's to have the games for free? 🤔

😜

That's how i read it

[terse glade]

Ads in games? Completely normal since decades lol

[quick locust]

Yeah if you play shovelware games

[molten flame]

Disturbing amount of Nvidia simps on reddit trying to defame derbauer vid

[midnight crypt]

What a surprise

[modern gull]

In my personal opinion thinking of ads in game. I don't think it's a big problem if they self advertise and is none intrusive, like it don't pop up into your face but rather is just there in example like the menu there in the picture, i am sure the ad is clicked in the image though. If they started having ads from third parties i would like a cheaper game or store credit everytime its shown somehow. This also is only ok in main menu i'd say

Although it's a movie and what not, technically it's self advertisement as they own the brand

[modern gull]

Tbh mostly just seen self advertisement and ingame store items, most of the time in game store items is intrusive you have to click away. But i guess most are fine with those if they have interest in what new skins is out etc...

Also want to say, i couldn't hate ads more

[dapper saffron]

if it is their own games that they publish it is fine then like in battlefield game i am seeing buy next upcoming or pre order mass effect

[brave sundial]

It's a user error bro, that means it's entirely on the user

[modern gull]

What i was thinking that too tbh. But like i said if they put 3rd party ones and also intrusive ones i would like compensation for the annoyance

Also with 3rd party ads they would be payed to show them, only right if you can get some piece of the cake your selv, specially if you generally hate ads too end of universe 😛

[dapper saffron]

i am fine with coca cola ads or pepsi or monster ads

[modern gull]

[dapper saffron]

other than that ban it

[modern gull]

hahah

I mean, if game is free that would kind of make it more ok with ads

But intrusive ads will eventually get to you if you hate ads

[dapper saffron]

but yes if they advertising their own published or developed games it is totally fine

[modern gull]

Mhm

In 2042 they had ads for Polaris atv's, maybe you couldn't call it ad, but absolutely no problem at all. Think it would be a more better thing if anything, it would make the game more authentic/true to life if that makes sense

Having ads on billboards ingame is the same i feel

Didn't 2142 have intel ads ingame btw? 🤔

So long ago i don't remember, but something tells me there was

Found picture on google

[brave sundial]

Logitech too

[dapper saffron]

that pepsi ad is 🔥
nfs had thse castrol ad
fifa games also has ads right?

like it is fine man sometimes it makes the game more immersive and real because coca cola exists irl too

[modern gull]

Yeah for sure

Some companies probably would say, billboard can never be destroyed it will make our brand look weak Can also understand that they would pay for the spot ingame but kind of dumb if it would affect game and it being 100% invincible, would defeat the purpose abit with it being more immersvie

Easy way for EA to make some extra side cash with the players feeling more immersed

[dapper saffron]

but what kind of ads should not be allowed
ea should not advertise genshin impact until they collab

[modern gull]

To answer your question seriously, normally frowned upon ad topics i'd say like gambling, alcohol, politics, activism and so on

[quick locust]

Make it so that if you skip the ad, Pepsi Man will beat you up in game

[modern gull]

[dapper saffron]

perfect answer that is what i was also thinking

[modern gull]

We talking about ads that aren't intrusive and is just there ingame like on bilboards etc...

[modern gull]

Dont want to see those type of ads tbh

[dapper saffron]

true same here

[quick locust]

I think the steam ban is just for games that require you to watch an ad to advance in the game

Not just billboards or sponsored brands etc

[modern gull]

Yeah probably intrusive ads, and those are the worst

[quick locust]

Like mobile games 😛

[dapper saffron]

like the mobile games right?

[dapper saffron]

yes

[orchid nest]

It was made quite clear what they will do. Which is ban ads that are forcibly made to be watched to play, or get in-game rewards

Ads that you can skip, click off of, etc, are totally allowed

[modern gull]

I mean, if it's optional its more fine i guess, you dont have to get the extra item 😛

[quick locust]

When youre about to defeat a boss in Elden Ring but you get a Raid Shadow legends ad to proceed

[dapper saffron]

what if bfvi makes us watch 1 minute need for speed ad to get the anime bundle

[quick locust]

[modern gull]

Ads that just is there isn't really a problem. Having it on bilboards in game would be more positive and make it more immersive and true to life to say it like that. If the map could have ads like that

[orchid nest]

Steam said you would have to just add a DLC instead. I would rather pay 0,49$ for a small thing than watch an ad and have my data sold to Chinese data brokers

[quick locust]

Rather not have my data sold to US data brokers

[modern gull]

Forced ads and overly intrusive ones are really big issue imo

[orchid nest]

Sold to US brokers = resold to China

When you buy an DLC, there is less data harvested

When you watch an ad, every piece of information they can possibly scalpe, they will do

Buying an DLC requires not much data for the company. Data harvesting purely for monetization

[quick locust]

Watch an ad to respawn in next bf

[orchid nest]

Pay for every reload

[modern gull]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-star-succession-gif-13800396203823273987

[orchid nest]

Innovation™️

[modern gull]

[dapper saffron]

oh man please dont say this
i hate that hold space button already to skip to respawn screen and now this

[modern gull]

You can actually just press it, they added the option for it

[dapper saffron]

thats skill issue from my side

i didnt know that

[modern gull]

It happens to the best of us 😛

[quick locust]

If you have VC on you get connected to a call center each time you die

Hello would you like to extend your car insurance?

[dapper saffron]

car insurance ad in bfvi billboards

[modern gull]

Hello tech support, i see you have lack of respawn funds please watch ad to add more funds too respawn

[winter burrow]

I remember the old CEO for EA wanting to add a mechanic that requires us to pay irl money to get ammo in Battlefield

[brazen holly]

Bobby Kotick lite

[modern gull]

Is that real or a joke?

[pale quartz]

depends what you interpret

it was an interview where the CEO said an example of charging people to shoot in battlefield, it was never a real proposed mechanic, but it was used as a (possible) idea of monetisation for games, bearing in mind this was just a theoretical discussion

taken into context that this was John Riccitiello in 2011 who became the CEO of unity however, there's every reason to believe he was serious and not sarcastic

[modern gull]

I see, i see 🤔 Wonder if they would still charge for it

Ahhh

Wasn't there anything dumb happening with Unity some time ago?

[pale quartz]

barely a year ago

[modern gull]

Ooooh

Forgot what it was about actually

[pale quartz]

they tried to change the licensing terms to squeeze developers for money and he almost drove unity into bankruptcy

unsurprisingly he's not the CEO anymore

[modern gull]

If you ask me from how i see it how he even could have become a CEO, could be unfair of me to say but just the pay to shoot thing even 🤷

[pale quartz]

he was not all bad contrary to popular notion

[modern gull]

I see, i see

[pale quartz]

his legacy was defined by that comment

but he also spearheaded EA to make their own original IPs, mirrors edge etc

[modern gull]

Btw was that the guy dont like it dont buy it?

[pale quartz]

nah

[modern gull]

Ah i see

[pale quartz]

he was long gone before that

that comment was made by a DICE GM iirc (outside EA)

[willow schooner]

I'm sure the dream of video game publishers is to be able to sell limited use weapons, magazines and ammo in a persistent online game. Hell extraction shooters basically do this to an extent.

[pale quartz]

more or less

[willow schooner]

Weapons, gear, mags and ammo you lose in game when killed are lost, etc. But they allow you to buy others with premium in game currency, which can be bought with real money

But you can also earn a meager amount with in game activity

[modern gull]

Have a feeling you talking about Tarkov, heard there was some greed involved in that from the dev/publisher

Something about the packs/editions or what not

[willow schooner]

Most extraction shooters allow this. Tarkov, gray zone warfare, delta force, and so on.

[winter burrow]

Sometimes you gotta commit a necessary evil for the betterment of everyone but how far is necessary before it is just straight up evil

[molten flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468358707890094081/1339278779645952072/IMG_1428.png?ex=67ae240f&is=67acd28f&hm=41bc419c3b9a586a7aad75a4dbde6c868bd45307dbe5a17c840759f6fdfcd813&

Asus Astral 5090 has interface for 12-pin monitoring

[coarse nimbus]

[dry pike]

But can it regulate too? Otherwise it's only usable to see when things are going to hell 😄

[willow schooner]

It cant

This is simply monitoring

[molten flame]

Even though the Astral has a fix for the cable issue, it's still close to the limits of the pin wires

safety isn't guaranteed

[willow schooner]

Does it actually, or are you just saying this based on other peoples statements?

AFAIK, the astral might pop a message if it detects in incorrect cable seat, it wont actually stop the card from working

and that message only pops if you have their AI suite installed.

[molten flame]

from buildzoid's video yesterday

[willow schooner]

even he said he doesnt know how those cards behave

[midnight crypt]

Looks to me that the card balances the load on the cable correctly

Which the FE doesn't do

[earnest orchid]

Any pay pigs in here getting a 5090?

[molten flame]

you couldn't pay me to have a 5090

[earnest orchid]

coooooooonsooooooooommmmeeeeee

[molten flame]

would only consider one if they did 4x 8-pin connectors

[molten coral]

Waiting for 5080’s to be in stock

[brave sundial]

How else would they justify the Asus tax?

[dapper apex]

What’s up with power cables melting issue

[brazen holly]

Just nVidia being noVideo

[ivory creek]

nvidia is a software company first and hardware second. maybe this has come to show too much now

[coarse nimbus]

are the FE cards suffering these power connector failures still too?

[tired venture]

Not to unnecessarily necro this comment, but Dust 514 from the ps3 era did exactly this. P2W mmo fps nonsense.

[toxic wigeon]

32 gigs 9070XT???

[brazen holly]

AMD saw the flaw in the 5080

And are out for blood

[molten flame]

If 9070XT is close to 7900XT MSRP then it will be DOA

It still uses GDDR6 so there's no reason it should be over $500 imo

RX 9070 series will be memory bottlenecked without a doubt

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/Y8qbzlij6G

Sad that Nvidia users have to make posts like this

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/pfxwzHKR0y

ANOTHA ONE!

[willow schooner]

Lol, what were they thinking with these extensions tho. And all different branded cables. EVGA PSU > Corsair extension > EVGA 8 pin pcies > Nvidia adapter.

This gpu is still needing too much power tho.

[molten flame]

if the power load is distributed evenly, the connector can handle over 1000 watts (maybe for only like fraction of a second though)

[pale quartz]

its a card that exists for idiot enthusiasts

just vaporware otherwise

[midnight crypt]

Not even confirmed yet

[molten flame]

32GB maybe for AI models?

[candid flame]

yes

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/rtx-cablegate-update-first-rtx-5080-cable-melts-more-5090-cases-moddiy-changes-its-upgrade-recommendation-page

now a 5080 cable melts...

[willow schooner]

Not sure why this is any scandal TBH. there are only 3 confirmed cases. With 2 of them being extreme cases of user error

These GPUs are terribly designed tho, but this is being blown out of proportion. Same as it was for 40 series.

[molten flame]

Plus I'd put the blame more on those terrible ASUS ROG power supplies

[willow schooner]

I guess this proves that the ASUS cards are still shitty, just a bit less shitty than the FE. Connector was melting, warning light on...but the card still didnt shut off to prevent damage

[molten flame]

Nvidia does not design the connectors or cables btw

it's done by PCI sig, which is a company owned by Intel ironically

[willow schooner]

Nvidia absolutely does design cables and connectors. What are you talking about?

They are part of the design body you just mentioned

[toxic wigeon]

Soon you'll need an external power cord to power your GPU.

(would be kinda cool actually)

[worn phoenix]

that one guy hitting like 162c

"i don't know what happened guys i was just doing some overclocking and it melted"

[molten flame]

overclocking any Blackwell GPU is plain silly

[modern gull]

[molten flame]

wonder if people are even able to RMA their 5090 considering how awfully low the supply is

[willow schooner]

These plugs ironically have better design than what nvidia is actually using

[modern gull]

[toxic wigeon]

You know what. I would be for that.

It'd be ridiculous but I wouldn't hate it.

Even if the wattage didn't demand it it would be safer.

[dapper apex]

Those memes about 5090 I/o ports about to get real

[molten flame]

Intel still has to validate the connectors/cables inside their own labs

Nvidia can't single handedly do anything they want with PCI sig

[turbid verge]

pretty sure the problem isnt the cable

or its design

its the materials you use

[willow schooner]

Its all of it, the cable is part of the issue

[turbid verge]

I mean from my electronics bachelor background

usually the design seems alright

[willow schooner]

and I think people dramatically underestimate how much pull and sway Nvidia has in PCI sig

[toxic wigeon]

The fact that the PSU cables burned is stupid.

[molten flame]

16-pin is definitely a physical issue

[turbid verge]

the problem is rather isolation and how you want to guide a huge concentration of electrons through a small copper wire lol

now you wonder why it heats and melts the plastics and then you get a nice short circuit

so I would rather say using plastic as isolation has been a stupid idea for this concept

I mean good example out there is how USB-c is designed

[willow schooner]

The cable is too small, and too breakable...with not enough "mating cycles" before becoming bad.

[turbid verge]

and can handle high wattage

[turbid verge]

means nothing

[molten flame]

USB-c is designed to be a futureproof solution iirc

[toxic wigeon]

Is it stupid to ask weather or not 2 16 pins could be used to ultimately lessen the load and not fuck the load up?

[turbid verge]

not saying otherwise. Same with this concept it can be futureproof if they design it to hold such conditions

[toxic wigeon]

It feels like an intel situation where demanding such a high amount of electricity through such a way for years and years on end would eventually catch up to you.

And ultimately you need to try something else.

[willow schooner]

Means nothing, yet people are having issues with 2 year old cables already...and being told to upgrade. This wasn't an issue with 8 Pin PCIE...it is a problem with 12vHPWR and 12v-2x6

[turbid verge]

because with the 8 pin you split more wattage, while with 12vHPWER you're basically concentrating a shit ton of electrons intro each copper cable to feed the card needs

[molten flame]

70% safety margin with 8-pin, meanwhile only 10% safety margin with 16-pin

[turbid verge]

although not everything is about that. Thats why isolation and even usage of different materials can literally be done to make a decent cable

its not your problem nvidia cheaps out on the cables lmao

because they're cheap to replace

[pale quartz]

yes it could, albeit there would be more wiring inside and the 5090 PCB is already packed so it'd probably need to be expanded, ultimately the cable just isn't designed that well, I suspect there'll be a second revision to balance it over the second wire, mostly it's a problem for 12vph rather than 12-2x6

[toxic wigeon]

I feel like its very basic uh... Flow?

[turbid verge]

I mean they could even use gold and rather high temperature resistance materials and have a cable that works. I dont even why I said gold

[toxic wigeon]

You put a massive amount of water through 12 tiny pipes they're gonna strain but if you even it out then hey not busty pipes.

[toxic wigeon]

Stroke?

[pale quartz]

it's not like that

similar in theory, I guess if you're being kind

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah I know not everything is 1 to 1 I just like to draw comparisons.

[willow schooner]

Yeah, water pressure in pipes and amps on a cable are not the same

[turbid verge]

use multi layered copper cable with high temperature materials

[willow schooner]

All in all...Nvidia created this problem by trying to get away with using one connector for the sake of looks.

[molten flame]

pull out the ol reliable 4x 8-pin PCBs

if it works, it works

[turbid verge]

no one is questioning that

[dapper apex]

Old layout looked sick tbh

[willow schooner]

They dont have space on their tiny PCBs...cos they are obsessed with shrinking everything at any costs.

[dapper apex]

Sucks to have an adapter

[turbid verge]

but those cables work, the problem is to solve its current problem is yeh melting literaly plastic lol

[toxic wigeon]

Is there any problem with 12V + 2x8's?

[turbid verge]

would work I guess

[toxic wigeon]

As in you have the 12 pin + 2 8's stuck into you

You?

IT

LOL

Joker ready up I'm going to stick the cables into you.

[turbid verge]

[willow schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-shocked-shocking-gif-14682087

[molten flame]

[turbid verge]

watch out Iam armed with a multimeter

[toxic wigeon]

Don't worry if you die I can just claim science experiment accident.

[turbid verge]

[molten flame]

nvidia skipping out on ohm’s law

[willow schooner]

IMO, it stops being user error when you have everything plugged correctly, as instructed to do...and things are still melting. Your average users doesn't have a way to know if their fragile 12vHPWR/12v-2x6 cable has degraded.

[turbid verge]

pretty sure ohms law doesnt apply heat

[willow schooner]

And "your GPU, cable or PSU" melting should not be the indicator that something has gone wrong

[turbid verge]

Iam still trying to understand the 50 amps meme

[turbid verge]

tbh just sounds like the typical. Nvidia didnt learn from past experiences. And the consumer still falls for it

[toxic wigeon]

In a lot of ways I'm glad I'm skipping this gen but god fuck I wish I got a 4090 lol.

Well I'll be getting a 5080 or some shit.

I wanted the 5090 so badly but what a boring gen.

[molten flame]

next-gen is likely 2028 which is gonna be a long wait

[toxic wigeon]

I could wait for a 5080TI but I don't know if it exists nor it will be worth it.

[turbid verge]

go for a non Nvidia one

pretty sure some dont use the 12V cable

[molten flame]

they should make 5080Ti a 384-bit GPU imo

[toxic wigeon]

wait sorry as in don't go for the FE version?

[willow schooner]

6090: 800W on the new 12v-2x8 cable/connector!!!

[toxic wigeon]

I can't get FE here.

[turbid verge]

I guess lol

[toxic wigeon]

OCE can't get FE models.

Was wishing I could buy one off someone but you know. they're valuable cards. (4090)

[dapper apex]

Im still on 3080 ti 😤 will need to upgrade almost everything for the new card

[modern gull]

Yeah

[turbid verge]

good thing I got that Asus TUF 3070

and has that amazing temperature levels of me not caring and just works for now

[molten flame]

8GB vram tho

[turbid verge]

and?

I literally never used more than 6GB VRAM

the only time I needed VRAM was when I was programming in Unity during University

and was because I was programming some weird shaders in HSLS

literally I would only need VRAM for when I would Blender to render certain animations or simulations or when I would test out my games in Unity using a debug build

[molten flame]

I was using more than 8GB vram in war thunder earlier lol

[turbid verge]

for gaming never literally hit 8GB Vram in my life

[turbid verge]

yeh I believe when you put draw distance high and details far also high its enough to heat up those vrams

[molten flame]

DX12 mode is pointless in war thunder ngl but it is still new so they need more time to work on it

[turbid verge]

even playing Space Marines 2 on high I dont use 8 GB of VRAM while having 70-100fps on avg and native 1440p

[dapper apex]

You’re gonna feel the power when you finally get your hands on

[turbid verge]

love me well optimized games to take the most advantage out of your GPU and CPU

[molten flame]

play the new indiana jones game

[turbid verge]

not interested atm

but with more fun added. Our A5000's cards in the render farm at my work are fun

shit is power hungry but hell amazing to process graphics

[toxic wigeon]

I like my 3080 but I wouldn't mind having more VRAM and power for games.

There's a 192 Terabyte GPU based on blackwell.

It's so fucked.

[dapper apex]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hpRZHC5W4AM?feature=shared
3080 ti*

[turbid verge]

literally turn your bathroom into a GPU farm

[toxic wigeon]

If there's one thing I wish to be taken more advantage of right out of the gate is mega geometry.

[molten flame]

3080Ti or 3080 with 12GB is decent

[toxic wigeon]

I got the 10 gig variant.

[molten flame]

rip

[toxic wigeon]

It's good mind you.

[molten flame]

10GB also has less bandwidth lol

[turbid verge]

I might upgrade to a 5070ti

but for project proposes not even for gaming intention

was do some fun stuff with 3D visualization processing

[molten flame]

5070Ti has the same memory config as the 5080 supposedly, which would make it a stellar gaming option at $750

but you won't ever find it at $750

[turbid verge]

and some of that OpenCL/OpenGL stuff

[turbid verge]

guess what I can even for lower

[molten flame]

used 4080

[turbid verge]

I source parts using company expenses. Means I get a nice discount

[molten flame]

[molten flame]

how big of a discount you say?

[turbid verge]

depends 20-30%

because supplier and also availability and partnership

we have a partnership with apple at work. Easy 25% discount on apple products

also with Lenovo too

[dapper apex]

I’ve got the 12 gb but what makes it more special to me is the fact that i got it during worldwide shortage at that time

[toxic wigeon]

I think I can get a 4080 at Australian MSRP.

Nvm they're sold out.

[weak agate]

hey so can lower temperature on the cpu increase fps ? also if airflow does that too please let me know im about to build my first gaming pc

[willow schooner]

the only way lower temps will help is if your CPU is throtting from being too hot

[weak agate]

oh

welp i got my answer thanks

[toxic wigeon]

Improve your airflow pretty much.

[hollow violet]

Oh nice a tech channel, so what do we think of the XM7?

[toxic wigeon]

The US Army Assault rifle?

It's cool, I guess. LOL. This is more round for computer tech.

[hollow violet]

I gave up on PC tech, I see a new game, I buy a new laptop.

[worn phoenix]

possibly the most wasteful way to be a pc player

[hollow violet]

Nah I only do that once in awhile lol

[pale quartz]

this is the current after market prices currently in USD, you'll be hard pressed to find much

[midnight crypt]

You'd have to be real special if you buy any of those

[molten flame]

spends $10,000 on a 5090
ends up defective or DOA
$10,000 brick

[wet notch]

these fools buying 5090

FOOLS

they cant wait a few months?

[coarse nimbus]

if youre not first youre last bro

[midnight crypt]

AI companies are buying them all

[last pivot]

Yo guys... Have a Problem on Steam:

I get an error when I start BF - it says Game not found

And I re-instaled it

[last pivot]

yes

[river aurora]

Computer channel computer people

Technology

[quick locust]

How often do you guys set btrfs snapshots

[hoary mantle]

I'm having an issue where im recieiving an error code stating

"Connection to EA Online timed out. Your network bandwidth and/or network latency may not meet the requirements for this game "

[wet notch]

are you on wireless?

or maybe router or firewall blocking something

[hoary mantle]

Nah im on LAN

[hoary mantle]

Yeah i checked but its all good

idk

i tried allowing it through the firewall and i tried verifing the integrity of the game files

but it continues to not let me connect ot the servers

my account isnt banned or disabled either

this is with battlefield 1

@wet notch

[wet notch]

maybe it's not your pc, but something with the server? or in your local area or something

[hoary mantle]

hm my friend can connect to the same server and it lets them through

[wet notch]

are you in the same network?

[toxic wigeon]

I made a curious remark about the 4080 and I got so lost when you dropped images for the 5090 and 4090.

[hoary mantle]

No we arent

[wet notch]

maybe try different server, im not sure how to solve it

[hoary mantle]

ah okay

[toxic wigeon]

I see the 4080 there but

Mh

I'm so mad. I want a 4090 but like fuck me.

[hoary mantle]

I dont know what i did but i fixed it

so uh

if you have this problem

"Connection to EA Online timed out. Your network bandwidth and/or network latency may not meet the requirements for this game "

gg

[wet notch]

glad it got fixed, so it probably wasnt your pc, its just internet stuff 🙂

[cosmic epoch]

Anyone ever start up bf5 and it flickers and just doesn't start up just crashes back to desktop?

[vestal grove]

I have the same thing

[muted frigate]

is anyone else having this issue with all battlefield games where it just says application not found and i cant open any of my battleifeld games

i have installed and reinstalled the games but it still does not work

feel free to @muted frigate me if you know why it does not work

[quaint kestrel]

https://youtu.be/JOlehlvsELw?si=DXf4LCec-cisN28o

Should be the same fix

[quaint kestrel]

Reinstall ea app

Then restart your pc and redownload ea app

[quaint kestrel]

@vestal grove

[cosmic epoch]

Yeah ive done everything and still happens from time to time. Appreciate the link

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/amd-denies-rumors-of-radeon-rx-9070-xt-with-32gb-memory

1984

[cunning acorn]

Gyro aim

Need

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro-pictures-reveal-hidden-16-pin-power-connector-design

definitely a 16-pin connector

now AMD cards will start melting too

[toxic wigeon]

Oh hell yeah

[dry pike]

Well, could be Sapphire picked a non-reference power connector for it. Although I doubt it considering it's sapphire

[willow schooner]

The article has no info on connectors. Its trying to make this article more interesting due to issues related to 12vHPWR issues in the last days

All thats shown is a hidden cable routing passage, they infer that Sapphire may be using a new connector with no proof

[willow schooner]

Side note: you can see other Sapphire 9070 and 9070XT cards use 8 pin power. So from a manufacturing standpoint, it would make very little sense for them to use a different connectoron this one GPU.

[noble fjord]

https://youtu.be/TtDWDWY_7Bc?feature=shared

[molten flame]

There's already AMD GPUs with the connector

[willow schooner]

Link?

[molten flame]

https://www.techpowerup.com/323300/hands-on-with-the-only-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-model-that-has-12v-2x6-power-connector

1 model

https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-first-to-launch-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-gpu-with-blower-fan-and-12v-2x6-power-connector

connector in a weird position

probably beneficial in some cases

[willow schooner]

It would be very odd of Sapphire to use 12v2X6 when all their other 9070/9070XTs use 8 pin.

[molten flame]

https://x.com/ghost_motley/status/1890125159505543196?t=JeVaJYZ8qUrJR-uz731yjQ&s=19

Charlie (@ghost_motley) on X

- RTX 4090 test card for DSOGaming
- Using the official NVIDIA 12VHPWR adapter
- Hasn't been unplugged from the card in two years
- Takes it out to see if the connector is damaged
- Melting on the connector, still works, but has melted

https://t.co/Eg9oFFbkzB

X · Feb 13, 2025, 7:45 PM

still works

[willow schooner]

Lol yeah. "Still works"

[midnight crypt]

For now

Totally won't cause issues eventually

[quick locust]

Time to ask NZXT to design the next connector

[dry pike]

AMD and Intel should make their own connectors as well, also just change them each generation. That's tooooootally not going to create and e-waste.

[turbid verge]

https://youtu.be/qt4RhFwTMhw

[candid flame]

https://x.com/McAfeeDavid_AMD/status/1890102891119276284?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1890102891119276284|twgr^bb9586fdcdb58786cebd0f6eeaa47140033f86f7|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcguide.com%2Fnews%2Famd-finally-confirms-rx-9000-series-reveal-date-but-it-has-already-shut-down-a-32gb-gpu-rumor%2F

feb 28th rx 9000 reveal

[midnight crypt]

Mega link of doom

[dry pike]

Funny. Sadly not practical.

[molten flame]

https://youtu.be/oB75fEt7tH0?si=vq1O8iJs9qxnWk2v

[pale quartz]

cc, specification is real, it's the red devil variant

[molten flame]

that one requires 3x 8-pins

100W higher PSU requirement than 7900XTX

reference model is 2x 8-pin

[midnight crypt]

There are versions of the xtx with 3x8

[molten flame]

gets rid of the rumor that the 9070 non-XT had just single 8-pin lol

150W PSU requirement difference between reference and OC models is crazy

supposedly reference 9070XT boosts to ~2950 MHz while Red Devil and Nitro+ boosts beyond 3100 MHz

[midnight crypt]

Similar to 7900xtx

[narrow halo]

RTX 2080

[wind elk]

over clonking video cards is just dumb

[willow schooner]

Yeah, its much easier to overclock them

[coarse nimbus]

You never want to clonk something

[indigo crow]

Upgrading from an RTX 4090 to a 5090 is not worth spending $2,000?

It's only 15 to 20% faster

[candid flame]

definitely not

[midnight crypt]

For a potential fire hazard it's definitely not worth it

[indigo crow]

The performance gap between the 4090 and 5090 is like that of a 3080 to 3090

[tall gulch]

What about a 2080ti to a 5090?

[candid flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jek6D3fY1X8

[willow schooner]

Id avoid the 5090 at all costs, until nvidia actually respond to the issues related to its power cables and connectors.

[tall gulch]

I would never buy an FE card lol

[willow schooner]

the issues with 5090 is not only on the FE cards

Its every single card

[tall gulch]

Source?

[willow schooner]

Every tech youtuber, electrician and tech engineer on the planet?

[tall gulch]

hmm will look into it

[coarse nimbus]

surely they wouldnt sell a product at such an expense if it had issues like that....

[willow schooner]

A cable that can take a max of 610W, used on a GPU which has a TGP of 575W. Same cable and GPU that has no way of knowing if its working properly, until it kills itself, melts...or a mixture of both.

[coarse nimbus]

speaking of a piece of tech uninstalling itself.. what about the 90 x3d that burned out?

[willow schooner]

And only 1 GPU on the market can even detect if the cable is having issue...but even then...that detection only works if you manually install their software, and constantly monitor it (It doesnt actually do anything to stop the cable/connectora from melting...just pops a warning)

the only 9800X3D that are burning out are those that have been forced to use over 1.3v, or that were installed incorrectly. at least from what I see.

1.3v is not safe for those CPUs, regardless of what users on reddit will try to tell you

[coarse nimbus]

(i saw a short on the issue) the incorrectly installed chip, and the one that "burned out" was burned in a different location on the chip than the incorrectly installed

[pale quartz]

processor?

[coarse nimbus]

did it say that guy didnt OC the cpu either.. maybe

[pale quartz]

and what resolution

[lofty pollen]

Meeeeeao ?

[coarse nimbus]

but then again would someone lie on the internet?

[willow schooner]

People will say they didnt OC...but then they will say they set the scalar to 10x, a positive offset of +200...and an async bclk2 of over 100.

[pale quartz]

or enabled some game mode settings in the bios

[willow schooner]

"Its not overclocking if I use PBO!!!"

[coarse nimbus]

"its totally stock i swear"!!

i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case, the gpu situation is a lot more cut and dry lol

[willow schooner]

Game mode on the 9800X3D only disables SMT

lol

It will disable CCD1 and SMT on the 9950X3D tho

[pale quartz]

not that game mode, there are some on Asus boards that unlock the power limit etc

that game mode is unfortunately actually supported by amd

[willow schooner]

On my Asus board thats all it does anyways. the only power limit disabling option is actually called disable power limits.

I think the thing you speak of is only on X870/X870e boards

[pale quartz]

you'll find it on x670e boards aswell

or x670

[willow schooner]

Odd. I have X670e and not seen it. Tho I normally dont bother with anythign that has the word "game" in its name haha

[pale quartz]

unfortunately it's a good way to absolutely kill a processor because Asus boards overvolt the processor by default

the "I can use -20/30 CO offsets" users are actually just removing Asus's standard voltage settings and using factory

[willow schooner]

One good thing with PBO is that you can set the power limits to be set by either the board, amd set limits, ETC

[worn phoenix]

so i somehow messed up a bios update

3 hours later pc just fixes itself after refusing to cooperate with me

lesson learned

[coarse nimbus]

one thing ive never messed with

and would definitely want to purchase one of those UPS(?) things to ensure i dont shut down during it

[worn phoenix]

i've done it before and it's been fine

mostly

but yeah definitely won't be touching it anymore unless absolutely necessary

still worried it'll go back to being broken as soon as i restart

[coarse nimbus]

ngl i havent played 2042 in like 5 days because last 2 times ive played it when loading a match it gave me a blue screen

pretty sure it was literally during a match loading... but i was playing for a while before it happened kinda thing.. and never had an issue playing spider man 2 (which im going to assume is more taxing on the system that 2042)

[worn phoenix]

funnily enough i stopped playing spiderman 2 because it crashed my pc

but 2042 is fine

[coarse nimbus]

the uhh... ahem build number, i was on must have been a stable one

[worn phoenix]

ah, of course

i should try

rolling back

to that one

[coarse nimbus]

wondering if i shouldnt just do a fresh install of it.. pretty sure i did a repair after the first crash

[worn phoenix]

so turns out the problem was my boot order

and i didn't need to waste the last 4 hours of my life

wow

tempted to update bios again and fix the boot order this time but i think i'll play it safe and never do that again

[coarse nimbus]

you set the boot order to update it, then forgot to swap it back?

[molten flame]

AsRock 9070 XT Taichi has a 12V-2x6 connector

[digital hill]

damn 9070

Nvidia skipping over the 5 series and heading to 9th generation

Wait this is AMD, this is even more confusing

[sleek citrus]

6090 needed for new bf

[fleet cape]

anyone here in chat?

guys when my friend tries to launch a game it says this "this software cannot be used at the same time as the game"

but he dont have any other anti cheat or softwares installed

he plays on PC

[honest forge]

install the anti cheat then

[fleet cape]

with one?

[honest forge]

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