Freesync 2 is G-sync compatible
#technology
small zinc
turbid verge
diabolic not recommended for the avg gamer out there
but good if you play racing games ngl
pale quartz
i have the monitor it works fine
ivory creek
my qd-oled also suffer from flickering if the fps isnt stable
turbid verge
i have the monitor it works fine
if it didnt work that would be a problem 
small zinc
Just say you don't like 21:9. That's fine. But your other arguments about the monitor are moot.
turbid verge
hum its not that I dont like
pale quartz
pale quartz
my qd-oled also suffer from flickering if the fps isnt stable
thats due to vrr
not the oled
turn it off if you dont want flickering
but you dont get vrr either obviously
turbid verge
21:9 is just not good if you just an average gamer or user. Even for most games. But in some ocasions its a good monitor like I said, racing games
I do have friends who have a 21:9 for racing games and works pretty well. But they hate it for work in general and use a double 16:9 or idk to play anything like a shooter
small zinc
I can agree when ultra wide became a thing, many developers didn't support it for quite some time. But 21:9 is at this point a "standard" aspect ratio
brave sundial
They have UWs in the labs at uni and man, I'm sold on it after using them for hours. I want to make an oled my first one 
turbid verge
I can agree when ultra wide became a thing, many developers didn't support it fo...
21:9 is nowhere a standard
brave sundial
I do have friends who have a 21:9 for racing games and works pretty well. But th...
wouldn't it be better for work? As in multitasking
toxic wigeon
I was thinking of getting an uw but I just quit.
turbid verge
most if not over 85% is still 16:9
double or triple monitor setups
considering they work at a office and not at home remotely 100%
small zinc
Now 32:9? I don't really understand that. That's a far more unsupported aspect ratio. I kind of get cramming two 16x9 monitors on one display. But those G9 displays are a little silly in my opinion.
pale quartz
21:9 is fine, if you prefer 16:9 then thats fine too
running a dual monitor over 21:9 is asinine
prime jasper
my eyes like 21:9, my neck likes 16:9
toxic wigeon
Not going back to the crt 4 :3 fuck that
turbid verge
21:9 is fine, if you prefer 16:9 then thats fine too
not agaisnt it. Iam just saying for the avg person they might pic a regular 16:9 over a 21:9
pale quartz
idk about that
turbid verge
Now 32:9? I don't really understand that. That's a far more unsupported aspect ...
32:9 makes sense because its basically a triple monitor in one
toxic wigeon
Seriously though it's amazing we've gone from boxes to thin ass monitors.
small zinc
32:9 makes sense because its basically a triple monitor in one
No it's not. Its two 16:9 displays on one display.
brave sundial
21:9 is nowhere a standard
Yeah, 90% of YouTube still refuse to acknowledge it 
turbid verge
I was thinking on a 21:9 165hz but went for the 16:9 165hz instead
mostly because of the games I prefer
brave sundial
I heard alot of streaming services do too for most of their content unfortunately
pale quartz
in youtubes case its not that it doesnt support it
it does
its just the source content most of the time is not uploaded in a factor larger than 16:9
brave sundial
I heard alot of streaming services do too for most of their content unfortunatel...
So you have to actually 'own' the media.. 
brave sundial
in youtubes case its not that it doesnt support it
Yeah I know
brave sundial
UW users are still a very small minority
turbid verge
Yeah, 90% of YouTube still refuse to acknowledge it <:KEKW:718207589988565082>
because of those 90% never worked in an office lol
toxic wigeon
Their phones are super good.
brave sundial
because of those 90% never worked in an office lol
I can't go back to 16:9 now honestly
quick locust
its just the source content most of the time is _not_ uploaded in a factor large...
Portrait for mobile
toxic wigeon
Unfortunately the s7 has fucked their reputation.
brave sundial
And I don't like dual/triple setups
small zinc
I had a Galaxy S3 back in the day. Went through 3 of them. Never again.
turbid verge
No it's not. Its two 16:9 displays on one display.
its not in the paper true, but I've seen a lot of people picking them because it simulate pretty well a triple monitor style setups but, even I can agree, you have on stand and one plug and cable and its less of a mess
and cheaper as well usually
toxic wigeon
I'm glad my folds haven't died on me for natural reasons.
Except for the 4 that thing has a fucking curse and I would rather not talk about it.
(WiFi adapter died and then after getting replaced it was stolen)
5 and 6 are working well.
turbid verge
Not going back to the crt 4 :3 fuck that
toxic wigeon
I miss the clicking sounds of computer.s
brave sundial
well some japanese company made something that brings them back 
quick locust
Just like Novo and DK
molten flame
toxic wigeon
What's the point of frame gen if it still causes a delay?
As in yeah they're making it better but how much is the delay actually imrpoved by.
buoyant storm
It won’t let me play battlefield 1 when I join it says my bandwidth or something like that is off what does that mean
pale quartz
As in yeah they're making it better but how much is the delay actually imrpoved ...
there is a 2ms increase for 2x in frame rate lol
molten flame
DLSS 4 uses less VRAM so the 5090 actually only needs 16GB
toxic wigeon
Unironically if they're finding ways to reduce vram usage than that's not a bad excuse.
But still annoying.
pale quartz
shooters how ever
its not a zero zum game
if you have a 4090 like me and can render 200 frames at near 4k on pure raster then yes its going to matter
if you are a normal consumer and have a 4070 or some other weaker card your native input latency is going to be higher by default
which in specific circumstances means your input latency can reduce using DLSS because you have a higher base performance
as you can see by the graph dlss performance and frame generation has lower latency than native because the base (native) framerate is that low
willow schooner
It all depends on how it looks, and what the user wants.
If they can get frame gen looking close to perfect, with small latency increases and no frame time issues, then it becomes a good option for lots of people. The "option" part here being important.
Games like the latest ARK forcing a terrible frame gen on, with no way to disable it is awful.
Those guys seem to have given up on optimization in the immediate future in favor of forced FSR frame gen, that is also terrible in implementation.
Only way to disable it seems to be via command line
midnight crypt
Can't wait for when frame gen and RT is mandatory in all games
midnight crypt
We sure are
ivory creek
only 15-20% that feels weak
molten flame
well, 30% if you go from 4090 to 5090
5070 is 15% faster than 4070
5070Ti is 25% faster than 4070Ti
5080 is 15% faster than 4080
5090 is 30% faster than 4090
5070Ti is a decent jump over the 4070Ti because of the larger 256-bit interface
regular 5070 and 5080 are stuck with same interface as previous gen, so most of the performance increase is coming from GDDR7
turbid verge
I wont believe until I see actual benchmarks from youtubers lol
dry pike
well, 30% if you go from 4090 to 5090
Rather disappointing if you consider the 27% increase in power requirement
coarse nimbus
just 27% undervolt it
dry pike
If I run the card out of spec Nvidia CEO Jensen will hide under my bed and I don't want that
prime jasper
can you block an entire country code in a phone? like say, the Philippines specifically?
I love the Philippines. I'd visit there. But I know the phone numbers from there don't have a package that wasn't delivered and I'm pretty sure I don't owe any toll fees to the Filipino DMV
terse glade
The world wont go over because of that
burnt coyote
toxic wigeon
molten flame
you can't use AI workloads or mine with the card for longer than 3 seconds at a time lol
also instead of disabling some shader cores like on the 4090D, they just disabled some of the AI cores
digital hill
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/222060964319723521/1329580056552411166/im...
Nvidia be like “what is the need for more vram”
molten flame
256-bit 16GB GPU is for 1440p ultrawide at best
Though I'm sure it will be a good bit faster than 7900XTX in 4K with ray-tracing, and slower in 4K rasterization
terse glade
Idk what all these means
willow schooner
Higher bus width mean more bandwidth. More bandwidth means more headroom for higher performance and less potential of there being a bottleneck on data transfer.
molten flame
candid flame
arc b570 runs games better than the rtx 4060 
dry pike
Will probably be better in US than the rest of the world. They most likely filled the US warehouses to prepare for any silly import taxes.
small zinc
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-confirms-rtx-50-gaming-gpus-native-non-dlss-rt-uplif...
15-20 is a bit low. It's the same exact architecture as Ada. Theres about 30% more cores. Tom's Hardware already did all the calculations without any real solid evidence of any kind of real benchmarks yet available. It's about 30% faster than a 4090 without fake frame gen.
small zinc
https://www.pcguide.com/news/you-might-have-to-wait-weeks-to-get-an-rtx-5090-or-...
Also has nothing to do with supply issues at all. Nvidia is the most anti-consumer company in existence.
Want a 50 series card? Buy a purchase bot. That's the only way anyone is getting one.
Scalpers have won. They will always win.
brave sundial
https://x.com/GamersNexus/status/1880419893876781227
"we're all human and make mistakes"
"can we forget the past and move forward?"
Now where have I heard that before?
The past 3 times LTT got caught with their pants down
"but but Steve I'm just a tiny creator, stuff like this slips through the gaps" 🥺
cursive marten
looking at the comments, there are a lot of people that are just like "I stopped watching GamersNexus because he is always so negative all the time"
A particular reply, or at least a part of it. "Most of us want to be excited about tech not debbie downers".
prime jasper
People with big egos inevitably show their true colors, which are generally black and white like their thinking. And that's who these big personalities are.
cursive marten
tbh the only response I have to that is that I would want tech companies to make shit worth being excited about.
but it's just AI cringe now.
prime jasper
but it's just AI cringe now.
spend a day watching Basically Homeless and Dawid Does Tech Stuff. I love goofy geniuses.
cursive marten
Bringus Studios is good.
molten flame
brave sundial
More concerning for Intel is that its previous-gen Core i9-14900K experienced much stronger uplift than the Core 9 285K from updating to the new version of Windows. We only updated the OS for the updated 14900K config – no new firmware had been released for our test motherboard since the 285K review. As you can see, the 14900K is now 7% faster than the testing with the older version of Windows. It appears that Windows has corrected some sort of issue with all Intel processors here, leading to the 14900K now being 14% faster than the 285K.
nocturne drift
nah GN isnt all that.
GN is pretty much a cult.
I am with LTT on this one.
and the current overall reaction shows.
I figured GN isnt all that from techtechpotato in 2023
might as well watch coffeezilla instead
oh I got 2 1080ti untested for 140
sold both for 120 each after testing and repaste
W
brave sundial
toxic wigeon
I like gn but I'm gonna see how this pans out.
molten flame
Linus already tried to throw GN under the bus once and it back fired on them really bad
dry pike
Seems like they like to throw each under the bus. I just watch both, and am sceptical of both. I don't like being a fanboy so I always assume they are probably doing something wrong 😄
coarse nimbus
Not sure how LTT has any moral high ground to try and stand on after the whole honey exposure thing
willow schooner
GN are way too drama focused these days, but it's getting them views, mineyband backers.
I preferred them when they just reviewed tech, but obviously that alone doesn't pay the bills.
coarse nimbus
so many tech review channels, all feels like the same thing
dry pike
Tech channels diverge into what is profitable and works.
Not nessesarily what is morally correct.
willow schooner
GN specifically going after other creators tho. Like they are some white knights of tech review
I'm not saying they are right or wrong to do it. I just have no interest in it. Clearly the general public loves a good bit of drama tho.
modern grove
hello there! can any1 come dm and help me a little with my pc... im trynna upgrade my cpu, so yeah i need someone who knows the stuff lol (im not too dumb neither lol)
nocturne drift
Yeah GN is just a cult following nowadays trying being the tech coffezilla.
Also people flaming LTT for not being coffeezilla 3 years ago is crazy. LTT is not a drama channel.
A couple years ago. I got flamed for recommending an aio. People are like u have to get the ____ cause it's the best in GN chart when it's like less than a degree cooler.
Like wtf we doing here.
coarse nimbus
welcome to how people talk about what gun to use in BF 
nocturne drift
LTT is actually the only channel I sub rn. I unsub Jay because he is wrong alot of time. GN cause it's boring af unless it's drama and overall neg tone. Hardware unbox because he crashed out on frame chasers and other smaller creators when they pointed out a wrong video. Monitorunboxed is awesome tho, I'm subbed.
willow schooner
Ill be honest, I am subbed to a lot of channels. But my Viewing habits arent the same as years ago where id just watch who ever I was subbed to. I normally just open YT and watch something that the homepage. Home page has been much better since I subbed to premium.
I mainly look at GN for new tech releases, like CPUs and GPU. But I tend to ignore their "drama" or "Scandal" focused content
toxic wigeon
Gn certainly has been more aggressive as of late.
willow schooner
To me they seem to think like they can do whatever, and not have any consequences. Constantly attacking other creators/brands is going to make them a pariah tho. and their constant collabs with specific big brands like Nvidia arent going to last forever.
gentle turtle
Can someone help me with the following problem:
Whenever I want to start a game from EA, regardless of which launcher, it initially loads normally but then remains stuck in the loading screen.
I've already written to support and watched a lot of tutorials on You Tube but I'm really not getting anywhere. would be nice if someone could help me.
brave sundial
To me they seem to think like they can do whatever, and not have any consequence...
eventually the big guys like nvidia and amd too will drop them I feel
dry pike
Can someone help me with the following problem:
Whenever I want to start a game ...
Tried removing power from your router for 5 minutes?
gentle turtle
Yes
dry pike
Have a thread on https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/bd-p/battlefield-2042-technical-issues-en with a list of what you have already tried?
gentle turtle
I also tried it at another device and on the other device i tried it on it perfectly worked
gentle turtle
Have a thread on https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/bd-p/battlefield-204...
Alright give me a min
gentle turtle
Have a thread on https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/bd-p/battlefield-204...
Done
dry pike
Wrote a couple of suggestions in there. Now I'm going to bed 🙂
worn phoenix
toxic wigeon
Anyone have experience with the Samsung g series of monitors? How do they compare to similar OLEDS?
candid flame
oh right, I've found out why I was getting random BSOD recently after a windows 11 update. It's because the update didn't remove the old GameInput service and so both the old and the new were running together which caused the random crash
if you are having BSOD probably check in task manager if you have 2 gameinput running and uninstall the old one
turbid verge
Anyone have experience with the Samsung g series of monitors? How do they compar...
usually they're the ones who produce their own OLED but also supply other brands too
usually
although Samsung is known for QC issues on their gaming monitors, but I dont know whats the ratio of having a bad monitor
afaik I dont know anyone with such issue with a samsung monitor.
cursive marten
if you are having BSOD probably check in task manager if you have 2 gameinput ru...
windows moment
brave sundial
if you are having BSOD probably check in task manager if you have 2 gameinput ru...
lol, yeah it's a real nasty thing. I was troubleshooting a friend's PC and thought it was an issue with the RAM after running memtest86. The new sticks he just bought a few months ago.
Used event viewer and found out some gameinput process was crashing so I just uninstalled the old one and it fixed 
candid flame
nvidia hints at rtx 2000 and 3000 having frame gen soon-ish as they moved frame gen to the tensor cores https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyxXRXDtcPA
willow schooner
They said the same for the last gen, but I doubt they will bother.
candid flame
gotta keep a carrot dangling
don't go mid-range amd and intel nooo keep buying our outdated hardware surely they will get better
willow schooner
Its probably more possibly now than before tho. So who knows. They no longer rely on optical flow acceleration built into the hardware.
pale quartz
nvidia hints at rtx 2000 and 3000 having frame gen soon-ish as they moved frame ...
this isnt what they said
Catanzaro is saying that it is theoretically possible
in practicality it will not happen because tensor performance on old gen is ass at the absolute minimum it would be on the 40 series
candid flame
terse glade
nvidia hints at rtx 2000 and 3000 having frame gen soon-ish as they moved frame ...
Ngl if this would happen nvidia would some serious amount of sympathy points
terse glade
in practicality it will not happen because tensor performance on old gen is ass ...
Sadly true
Maybe frame gen mini, just 10 fps more or something lol
nocturne drift
600USD for 10850K 128gb ddr4 ram, 3090 2TB NVME SSD and 750w coolermaster 80+ plat omen prebuilt
I got a z490 strix e for 60 a case and a cpu cooler and some fans. total build cost should be around 750
gonna case cooler and mobo swap
I also got 5 dollars of thermal pads to repad and repaste the OMEN 3090 lol
quick locust
Pretty nice
pale quartz
FSR 4 works out-of-the-box with FSR 3.1 games
it only means those games can be upgraded
in practicality terms its useless because you cant use the frame generation component unless you have rdna4
molten flame
which has been delayed to March lol
The FSR 3.1 <-> FSR4 compatibility is only possible because of FSR 3.1's change to DLL hooking. Version 3.0 and earlier require complete recompiles.
pale quartz
yes
brave sundial
Hope Steve gets his hands on this
dry pike
5090ti
terse glade
ivory creek
would my 850w 80+ gold be enough for a 5800x3d and a 5070ti?
worn phoenix
would my 850w 80+ gold be enough for a 5800x3d and a 5070ti?
yeah that'd be fine
i have a 5800x3d and 4080s running off a 650w psu
ivory creek
awesome
i originally bought a 1100w 80+ platinum but it was faulty and it was out of production so i downgraded
dry pike
I needed new PSU under Corona. Could only get crap ones, and this 1600W I ended up getting. Oh well, at least it's fan has never produced noise besides when I tested it.
lunar wraith
i have a 5800x3d and 4080s running off a 650w psu
What
one video card you have +-350w
worn phoenix
250-280 i'd say
lunar wraith
On just windows screen?
lunar wraith
That's good, I didn't know, what 4080 only 270w in games
lunar wraith
That's good, I didn't know, what 4080 only 270w in games
7900 xt 260w in games
worn phoenix
i've undervolted it, stock it goes much higher
lunar wraith
i've undervolted it, stock it goes much higher
But its good that 4080s use only 260w with undervolting
worn phoenix
very good
worn phoenix
no i was just agreeing
willow schooner
That's good, I didn't know, what 4080 only 270w in games
The issue is that all GPUs have transient power spikes that these softwares dont report. If your power supply doesnt support more than your system totals needs, one of these spikes can and will crash your PC.
So if the combination of your PC components at load is 600W, its not wise to use only a 600, 650, or even 700W PSU IMO
lunar wraith
The issue is that all GPUs have transient power spikes that these softwares dont...
Maybe the power supply?
usually good power supplies take on the entire load, and they even have special protection against this
willow schooner
Yes, they trip and crash your PC when overloaded. thats what I mention above
lunar wraith
Ah, ok
dry pike
The issue is that all GPUs have transient power spikes that these softwares dont...
The crashes are not that bad. But it can hurt your hardware and thus how long it lasts until it breaks.
willow schooner
I only mean that if a new PSU is being bought, just buy one that will just work and not have you worrying about stuff like this 😁
dry pike
Oh yeah totally. Always go over what you need.
digital hill
800 watts 💀
Damn, so my curbside scrypt miner can be more efficient then that,
it runs at 625w, lower hash rate because it's old as hell
brave sundial
i'm in assetto corsa right now at 265 ish
How's Evo so far?
worn phoenix
How's Evo so far?
pretty fun, best ffb i've felt though it's struggling with the online only stuff
cursive marten
Avoid mods
Cowards
Assetto Corsa has mostly benefitted from it's modding scene.
worn phoenix
yeah some licensing issues i presume
also the economy system
but it's fine, ace isn't trying to be like ac
i just worry about playing with no online connection
brave sundial
this was meant to be AC2 though
The mods are what kept this game alive for over a decade
Without them, the game would be pretty forgotten like ACC
worn phoenix
meh it's not really ac2 no matter how they twist it
ac was just a sandbox
this is an actual game with progression and challenges
brave sundial
nocturne drift
Hp omen Psu is goofy
They have 10850k and 3090 on a 750w Psu. But this Psu is 80+ plat
80+ doesn't mean much but plat is so random.
The cables are so short I have to spend 15 bucks on cable extensions.
OK so gpu draws 350 and cpu draws 200 max.
550
750w for transient. I think it's fine.
terse glade
cursive marten
i just worry about playing with no online connection
apparently people have already decrypted the file that has all of AC EVO's assets.
worn phoenix
lmao
dapper saffron
project STARGATE is interesting for the future of AI
candid flame
🤡
terse glade
project STARGATE is interesting for the future of AI
I have to look into it in detail but so far im pretty much stoked as well
Now release new technology to let tooth grow naturally agsin through stem cells for the public to make dentists bankrupt
dapper saffron
I have to look into it in detail but so far im pretty much stoked as well
all i know is AI is the future
it got potential in bio informatics too which is just awesome
nocturne drift
I forgot how hot mem temp get on 3090 lol
with repad its 90c
omen 3090 is surprisingly ok. with just a linear fan curve it stays around 68c core 80c hotspot and 90c (+1000 mem clock)
power limit is 350w
worn phoenix
real
ivory creek
if nvidia starts to focus too much on fake frames and amd get on par in raw performance and get a decent version of dlss i wouldnt mind buying an amd card
i cant care less for raytracing and framegen
dapper saffron
i cant care less for raytracing and framegen
i am a 3060 user so i dont get framegen of nvidia but i have amd apu and that gives me framegen
i understand the dislike towards framegen but framegen actually let me play games in better image quality with slight latency that is the reason why i am not so anti framegen but i can understand the hate towards fake frames and people want raw power which is not wrong
midnight crypt
Nvidia is gonna force frame gen to be mandatory in games
ivory creek
i really hope that wont happen
candid flame
i really hope that wont happen
oh it's already happening
midnight crypt
AAA games already run like hot trash so it's gonna be soon enough
toxic wigeon
Frame gen won't even be enough.
molten flame
Don't care much about latency or input lag. I have a 5ms monitor and wireless peripherals except my studio headphones
Also use wifi instead of ethernet
quick locust
I installed my OS on Google drive, and my keyboard has a 2 km repeated usb cable with wait on each to get some sweet latency
candid flame
welcome to the clown show
toxic wigeon
Wtf?
candid flame
he's still bitter OpenAI didn't want to work with him so even when his butt buddy the orange felon announced the stargate project he's still trying to spread bullshit
willow schooner
Progressing a field is only a good thing when he is involved/can take credit, dont you know.
worn phoenix
welcome to the clown show
if you described the shit that's going on to someone not in the loop they'd think you were lying
it's so ridiculous
candid flame
Clown World 2025
molten flame
pale quartz
i cant care less for raytracing and framegen
you will when it's mandatory to run in games
e.g. Indiana jones
worn phoenix
yeah eventually it'll just be necessary
and i'm sure nvidia is betting on that
as long as latency and artifacting is sorted out i guess it doesn't really matter
molten flame
coarse nimbus
12x the gb of my 3070
cant wait for observer to pick it up and let me know how the performance is for battlebit
molten flame
3070 bottlenecked by 8GB VRAM, you don't get to play the new indiana jones game
molten flame
sad that 3060 can outlive the 3070
coarse nimbus
not sure if the HQ texture pack download was the right play
molten flame
coarse nimbus
https://youtube.com/shorts/VOkxnvqF8U0?si=1k6Ds97bZPEggBSU common sony dub?
willow schooner
Theoretically yes, but 100% of end users will not notice the difference
molten flame
GPU is limited by the CPU architecture anyway
Also I thought consoles were capped at 120Hz regardless if they are at 32 or 40 Gbps 
willow schooner
Next to no games target 120 anyways
molten flame
I think COD does it
willow schooner
It has a 120 mode, but rarely reaches it consistently.
molten flame
sacrifices graphic detail a lot too iirc
willow schooner
PS5 pro is better there for sure, but not close to 120
I like the pro, cos it can do stable 60 in split screen zombies haha
coarse nimbus
sacrifices graphic detail a lot too iirc
sounds like the sweaty gamers dream... like the ultra low quality war thunder players
willow schooner
My and my GF play that often
coarse nimbus
im actually amazed split screen is an option
molten flame
PS5 pro is better there for sure, but not close to 120
I wonder if it can run older unoptimized games better than the base PS5
willow schooner
It does, yes. But not anything limited by the CPU
molten flame
PS5 Pro CPU clockspeed matches the Series X
Xbox has slightly more memory bandwidth too iirc
willow schooner
Unsure on the specifics in that department, but I know a few games do still run better...or at least have higher lows on the X
That latest 40K game for example. Its has issue son PS5 in some areas..and while the average FPS is higher on PS5, its lows are much worse
I still enjoy playing games on PS5 on the couch tho. When I play on PC I always get distracted with something else. Like opening YT, Discord, ETC.
brave sundial
https://youtube.com/shorts/VOkxnvqF8U0?si=1k6Ds97bZPEggBSU common sony dub? <:Cu...
bmac posting any anti-sony news he can find because zozo isn't here anymore
coarse nimbus
what happened to him 
brave sundial
idk I saw people call his name a few weeks ago, looks like he got in some really heated argument in gen chat
and then after that he went?
banned maybe?
idk
coarse nimbus
i know the answer
brave sundial
cursive marten
He fucked around and he found out is the answer to that
cursive marten
yeah
toxic wigeon
Dude sent a video of a pigeon high on coke and got mad he got warned.
brave sundial
candid flame
lmfao
quick locust
First guy out of the store be like
turbid verge
pretty sure stores are limiting one per customer
like they have been doing recently
at least on the nvidia site its like that
terse glade
No one in their right mind would buy a 5090 now anyway for gaming purposes
worn phoenix
you'd think that
terse glade
Professional users are not much so it makes sense not to stock up as much
pale quartz
No one in their right mind would buy a 5090 now anyway for gaming purposes
no one
there are loads who definitely would
the 5090 has barely any stock not because it sells less but because it's defect rate will be higher compared to the 5080 regarding it's sku adherence, so it's just easier to make more of them than 5090s are
even if it had 10x the stock count it would sell out immediately much like every Nvidia generation has since Turing
dapper saffron
No one in their right mind would buy a 5090 now anyway for gaming purposes
if only i had money
5070ti isnt bad but if saves some more money can get 5080
pale quartz
X
toxic wigeon
Why is its defect rate higher?
pale quartz
because they're harder to manufacture
pale quartz
a card with a 600 watt tdp and 32gb vram means something will fail statistically much higher and thus isn't validated to be a 5090, so it gets cut down to a 5080 instead
the tolerances are just much tighter
toxic wigeon
Oh yeah. When should there be decent stock of it?
pale quartz
never
not till the second half of the year at a minimum
whether Nvidia cares enough to increase supply is a separate question altogether
toxic wigeon
That's depressing.
pale quartz
it's not in their interests to have loads of stock to keep secondary market prices high
toxic wigeon
Probably wait for the 5080ti or something if it exists.
Should probably get a 4090 and just be happier with that.
When will 5080 reviews go out?
turbid verge
later this year I'll upgrade to a 5070ti, will see on that
this time might get the founders edition
because I dont want a brick of a card
toxic wigeon
No choice here.
pale quartz
When will 5080 reviews go out?
this week
willow schooner
5090/5080 embargo lifts tomorrow IIRC
molten flame
5090 FE temperatures are worse than most aftermarket coolers
notebookcheck did review early and deleted it
willow schooner
But about the same as the 4090 FE
Which is good considering it uses 25% more power
willow schooner
FE card is 3 separate PCBs, thats gonna be hard to do
molten flame
willow schooner
About as expected TBH
+28% ontop of the already insane performance the 4090 pumps out is still very good. Its just extremely expensive.
This graph makes me laugh when you consider how much faster 4090 was over 3090. they basially made the 4090 too good.
molten flame
28% increase isn't that good when there is 28% more shaders/CUDA, 50% more memory bandwidth and 28% more VRAM capacity
just reveals the architecture is almost the same as last gen
willow schooner
People will buy it, as they want the best of the best. Cost be damned
quick locust
Yeah, it could be 10K
molten flame
3090 was over 10K at some point during mining shortage
cursive marten
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/556205794241151021/1331977205286309938/...
not surprising, most of the cost hike is due to them trying to push AI stuff more.
molten flame
yields probably aren't that great for a 512-bit GPU with 170 SMs
maybe why most retailers will have only a couple dozen at best
ivory creek
lol ive seen multiple threads on the net that points out that you can build an entire good pc for the price of a single rtx 5090 here
kinda absurd
cursive marten
yeah because the 5090 is a flex, mostly. either that or it's being sold to people who are really into that AI grift
brave sundial
First guy out of the store be like
advantage of being taiwanese
pale quartz
28% increase isn't that good when there is 28% more shaders/CUDA, 50% more memor...
you're correct but it'll also be a efficiency king even more so than the 4090 was
you'll be able to drop this by like 15% and retain 95% of the performance
brave sundial
28% increase isn't that good when there is 28% more shaders/CUDA, 50% more memor...
I mean it is alot less thick too
2 slots only
coarse nimbus
advantage of being taiwanese <:leo:760110335687524423>
t word
brave sundial
pale quartz
2 slots, but worse thermals.
this is 600 watts
coarse nimbus
although hearing some place described as west Taiwan yesterday was funny
pale quartz
the 4090, is 450 lol
pale quartz
?
cursive marten
Only a 30% increase in performance without DLSS
pale quartz
that's about the average generational uplift lol
cursive marten
I don't think it justifies the price hike.
pale quartz
Turing to ampere was a 30-33% difference
pale quartz
it's the halo card price doesn't matter because it'll sell out instantly and you won't be able to buy it anyways
so it's redundant
besides, if you look at history the price "increase" is actually mediocre, pascal to Turing was a 500 increase
and that still sold out instantly so they can price it at 3k and they'll still get millions trying to get it
worn phoenix
This graph makes me laugh when you consider how much faster 4090 was over 3090. ...
mid but i guess it's fine when you can tell people it gets 500fps in cyberpunk or whatever
brave sundial
Lovelace really was an insane upgrade over Ampere with the high end huh
candid flame
30fps at 4k path tracing in cyberpunk without frame gen and dlss
coarse nimbus
youll still buy it
brave sundial
molten flame
der8auer's 5090 has intense coil whine
turbid verge
aka nothing to bother with
coarse nimbus
i cant even bring myself to watch these videos because.. why bother ill never own this
wet notch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82tQJyJwgk
are LTT relaible these days?
turbid verge
alternative
wet notch
i remember there was huge drama before
turbid verge
but gamernexus shows more technical stuff
but the good point is how from a 4 slot back to a 2 slot
its solid
coarse nimbus
kinda crazy
turbid verge
real engineering went to shrink that PCB a lot
coarse nimbus
does this mean... components closer together = soaking more heat?
turbid verge
apparently from the temps charts they're about the same as the 4090
across vram and gpu
basically same temps but smaller card
its a good trade off if you ask me
the worse part is the MSRP price lol
but yeh kinda wanna see the upcoming cards, mostly the 5070ti which Iam interested in
coarse nimbus
how drunk is nvidia with its pricing stucture, yes... or yes?
cursive marten
https://fixupx.com/GeForce_JacobF/status/1882442912023343297
raytracing's gonna be cool for screenshots. Miss me with that frame gen shit though, you can keep your fake ass frames.
pale quartz
<@162568099839606784>
brave sundial
i cant even bring myself to watch these videos because.. why bother ill never ow...
it's just like going windows shopping at the mall
think of it like that
coarse nimbus
brave sundial
are LTT relaible these days?
gamernexus is more technical so they'll shove alot more graphs in your face, but it is alot more detail and in-depth as a result
LTT's video is more tight and engaging and gives some explanation behind Nvidia's marketing-worded tech they boast about
willow schooner
Why would LTT use a 7800X3D in their test bench for a 2000 USD GPU...are they dumb?
pale quartz
yeah it's a huge problem especially because the 5090 is extremely extremely CPU limited for some games
willow schooner
Idiots
Literally a waste of a video.
Tests GPU > Uses a CPU they know will bottleneck them in most games. 
coarse nimbus
is that like making it so the cpu isnt out performing the gpu
wasnt that an issue with the intel gpu tests... they were using way high end cpus to test, but when you pair that card with a price appropriate cpu the results were way worse
willow schooner
Pretty much
coarse nimbus
but when youre dealing with literally the best gpu, thats a different story
willow schooner
The people looking at buying a 5090 arent going to be interested in what the performance is when paired with last gens most power CPU...they want to know its peak performance unlimited from as much of a CPU bottleneck as is possible.
Thats good info to know (How it performs with a multitude of CPUs/system) but not what I want to know from a review like this. For a company that apparently spent a lot of money on hardware testing labs, they sure do have some shitty testing practices.
midnight crypt
Their charts didn't look to be far off from GNs
coarse nimbus
theory time, LTT intentionally did that to drive engagement in the comments
molten coral
Can’t wait for it to be the 30th so I can finally buy a new GPU
small zinc
So looks like the 5090 is absolutely not worth the upgrade afterall
well, from a 4090 anyway
11-27% faster without gimpy frame gen crap
Which makes sense since Blackwell is no different than Ada whatsoever
Just more cores
molten coral
I’ve a 2080ti i’m due for an upgrade
Although if I’m really honest, the card works fine for my needs but I’ve only 1 displayport working on it
small zinc
I’ve a 2080ti i’m due for an upgrade
Yes you are. The 2080 Ti was honestly Nvidia's worst high end GPU they've ever made.
I wish to God I had never bought that stupid card
Especially when I came from a 1080 Ti
molten coral
I can’t complain since I got the card for free
small zinc
Well free is good price.
molten coral
Sure is
dry pike
I can’t complain since I got the card for free
Wrong. This is the internet.
quick locust
Yes you are. The 2080 Ti was honestly Nvidia's worst high end GPU they've ever m...
FX 5800 Ultra
☠️
brave sundial
Why would LTT use a 7800X3D in their test bench for a 2000 USD GPU...are they du...
well they gave an explanation
willow schooner
Its more an excuse than an explanation
Almost worse that they acknowledge the fact that they know they are using the wrong CPU for this type of testing, but used it anyway.
cursive marten
Let's collectively make a note of how long it takes the mods to notice this person.
I'm not making a ticket for 'em
i'm just gonna wait.
10 minutes.
cursive marten
Nah.
I'm not doing their job for them.
like, y'know, a server that gave a damn would have like, a moderator team i could actually see in the user list, and like, ping them to let 'em know about this.
A server that gave a damn would probably have moderators that would've noticed this shit being posted on every single channel.
21 minutes
give it up for 30 minutes.
41 minutes.
oh no wait 42.
toxic wigeon
Almost worse that they acknowledge the fact that they know they are using the wr...
If they actually used a 7950x3d it would have actually been that bit more excusable.
Like oh yeah it's no 9800x3d but this is what it generally should look like with this.
turbid verge
brave sundial
nice source bro
small zinc
FX 5800 Ultra
Oh dang. Forgot about that one...
molten flame
midnight crypt
Surely this wont have unforeseen consequences
toxic wigeon
the 5090 has barely any stock not because it sells less but because it's defect ...
Just wanted to add. Realistically the only way you're getting a 5090 is if you win the lottery and or buying through scalpers.
Annoying when you have actual money to spend but you can't buy it.
5080 may be the safer bet really.
digital hill
Surely this wont have unforeseen consequences
Of course not
So wait, if there no hot spot sensor, then how can the chip itself, check if it needs to increase or decrease fan speeds
Is it just checking the PCB
Which is unreliable, the chip could be hotter then the pcb which might be cooler
Or did they remove that sensor because, there is already temp sensors on it
@molten flame Nope not really, there is still a temp sensor all over the board, and looking the hot spot data was just reporting the hottest point on wherever it is on the GPU
Might have been useful for when you fuck up installing a custom GPU cooler
toxic wigeon
ASUS DOES IT AGAIN.
quick locust
Scratch on gpu you say? Warranty denied!
brave sundial
toxic wigeon
Scratch on gpu you say? Warranty denied!
ITS YOUR FAULT YOU DIDNT INSTALL IT RIGHT.
turbid verge
ngl they Nvidia actually made a FE that looks for once well assembled and build lol
brave sundial
I mean wasn't that the case since Ampere atleast
ivory creek
my oled had a default setting of black equalizer rised to make it easier to see enemies and objects in pitchblack enviroments, but i set it to 0 and now my display even deeper colors and is better than ever
prime jasper
anyone else notice a big CPU usage spike on PC for this? My cpu fan lights up like crazy compared to before
placid raft
The game keeps telling me I have an undefined error, And it keeps popping up after it says connecting to online servers. I was literally playing the game fine two seconds ago what the hell!
nocturne drift
I’ve a 2080ti i’m due for an upgrade
2080ti is a beast
its my go to gpu for cheap builds
it is faster than a 3070 almost as fast as 3070ti and 11gb vram have rtx and dlss
literally the perfect gpu that last forever
its still faster than the 4060ti LOL
ivory creek
didnt the xx70 cards use to be as fast as the previous series strongest card
it doesnt seem to be the case anymore tho
molten flame
nocturne drift
didnt the xx70 cards use to be as fast as the previous series strongest card
true, 2070 super can beat 1080ti and 3070ti can beat 2080ti. 4070ti super can beat 3090, 5080 aint beating 4090
maybe they release a 5080ti super
ivory creek
some games got dlss ultra quality option above the regular dlss quality
is that a higher resolution or something else
ivory creek
the ultra quality in marvel rivals looks almost as native to me
willow schooner
Has anyone tried forcing DLSS4 in 2042?
ivory creek
is that possible?
midnight crypt
Should be
willow schooner
Yup, you should be able to swap the DLSS dll and force preset J with nvidia inspector
brave sundial
so MFG in 2042?
willow schooner
No, higher quality upscaling. AKA, you;'d be able to use performance DLSS > which now mostly looks as good as, if not better than old quality
I dont know if it even works with 2042 tho. It should, but im not sure.
ivory creek
shouldnt dlss remove some details tho, even if it manage to make the picture looks sharper. since its not as high pixel density
midnight crypt
TAA ruining the picture quality since forever
coarse nimbus
shouldnt dlss remove some details tho, even if it manage to make the picture loo...
so effectively its doing what celebrities have been having done to their photoshoots for magazines for years?
molten flame
molten flame
yes
ivory creek
i would like to see the complete computer temp difference tho, someone pointed out that the new rtx 5090 cooler is pushing its hot air into the cpu cooler and raising its temp
coarse nimbus
so maybe the 2 slot option on our newest flagship $2500 gpu was bad?
willow schooner
The temps are 20c below their max rating, so they are fine.
Higher than is ideal, but still fine.
pale quartz
Has anyone tried forcing DLSS4 in 2042?
yes it works
pale quartz
shouldnt dlss remove some details tho, even if it manage to make the picture loo...
no it doesn't
the transformer model is significantly better than the older ones
if you want to upgrade the dll you can use my tool https://github.com/Recol/DLSS-Updater
lunar wraith
2042 looks better with DLSS enabled
when I ran DLSS 3.0 on quality in Battlefield 2042 in GeForce Now (3060 video card), Battlefield looks just awful
willow schooner
Probably was running 1080p
willow schooner
2042 1440p looks great with DLSS since launch for me
lunar wraith
2042 1440p looks great with DLSS since launch for me
I don't know, I saw soap
willow schooner
Fixes a bunch of aliased fine detail. Like on ziplines, fences, and other things with excessive transparency
It also dramatically reduced GPU power usage
lunar wraith
Fixes a bunch of aliased fine detail. Like on ziplines, fences, and other things...
Maybe, but I didn't see this
pale quartz
when I ran DLSS 3.0 on quality in Battlefield 2042 in GeForce Now (3060 video ca...
DLSS 3 and 3.7 (nevermind 4) are a gulf of a distance for upscaled quality
willow schooner
Its good that they updated 2042 to allow dll compat
By that I mean to a version 3.5 or later
pale quartz
yeah you could before but it required some hacks* which weren't ideal
lunar wraith
when I ran DLSS 3.0 on quality in Battlefield 2042 in GeForce Now (3060 video ca...
and maybe there was a problem in GeForce Now so I won't argue
willow schooner
Ive not used GF Now in a while, but last time I used it the image quality wasnt amazing.
lunar wraith
Ive not used GF Now in a while, but last time I used it the image quality wasnt ...
+-
pale quartz
because you don't have access to the game files you can't upgrade the dll yourself, one of the cons with cloud streaming
not much you can do about it
lunar wraith
because you don't have access to the game files you can't upgrade the dll yourse...
I agree, on my computer I can usually play Minecraft with shaders and other things, but in GeForce Now, there are not only no mods, but also Minecraft Java itself
pale quartz
I agree, on my computer I can usually play Minecraft with shaders and other thin...
yeah just the well limitations of not running natively, whether you're prepared to invest a few thousand to get comparative image quality is a separate question
dry pike
"complete computer temp" is a hard thing to actually point towards, how would you calculate that? 😄
digital hill
Easy just get all the temperatures probes, on every single board, and then calucate the mean of it and you'll get the average, which is enough to be complete computer temp
Though it'll have errors
dry pike
So if I want lower "complete computer temps", all I have to do is to install a bunch of probes in cool spots and then my computer will be cooler. Smart.
coarse nimbus
youve figured out how the scientists are claiming the earth has been warming 100 degrees in the last year
cursive marten
Server has an upvote emoji but no downvote emoji. curious.
cursive marten
I'm half blind give me a break
sleek wraith
@sonic surge what editing app do you use to export in 120?
sonic surge
<@346396478912331783> what editing app do you use to export in 120?
Davinci resolve
sonic surge
You paid the 295?
nah the free version
other than auto generating captions i see no need to use the paid one
sleek wraith
nah the free version
HUH??? HOW. I have the free version and It won't let me export past 60
sonic surge
HUH??? HOW. I have the free version and It won't let me export past 60
Idk it allows me to change the timeline resolution to whatever i want
id post a screen shot in here if i could
sleek wraith
Idk it allows me to change the timeline resolution to whatever i want
What's your gpu and cpu combo?
sonic surge
What's your gpu and cpu combo?
ive got a 3080 ti but that doesnt have anything to do with export quality
sleek wraith
ive got a 3080 ti but that doesnt have anything to do with export quality
Weird. If you can dm me I'd like to see the screenshot. I can't get it to go past 60 fps on my timeline
I import at 120 so idk what the issue is
steep meadow
prime jasper
I'm guessing it's those complimenting fans
steep meadow
I'm guessing it's those complimenting fans
lol
coarse nimbus
its nice to see when people with really expensive setups also have issues
modern gull
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/222060964319723521/1332709795744190484/im...
Are these 150-200% zoom?
🤔
Do you have any at like 100% zoom? Or like no zoom at all i mean
molten flame
small zinc
Was going to buy the 5090. I'm not now. This is a 2080 Ti all over again
The 5090 = 4090 Ti.
Not worth $2000
actually, $2500+. Microcenter isn't getting FE cards. And even more not worth the money for AIB
worn phoenix
not like you'd find one for a reasonable price anyway
small zinc
not like you'd find one for a reasonable price anyway
True. Microcenter would be the only place to "guarantee" getting one. Scalpers will ensure the economy is f***ked more than it already is.
And since Microcenter already confirmed they're not getting FE. It's over for that.
Can't wait to see $4000+ listings on ebay.
lel.
coarse nimbus
nvidia just needs to make it so if you purchase a video card you legally cant resell it for 6 months
brave sundial
bind the card with a motherboard the second it's inserted into the pcie slot
changing motherboards yourself? have to contact nvidia support and prove you're the same owner to get an 'unlock code' to be able to use the card on a different board
Hire me Jensen
coarse nimbus
2fa codes sent to only your device, which also has a 2fa on it, before you can boot up the pc
zealous frigate
changing motherboards yourself? have to contact nvidia support and prove you're ...
i wouldnt be surprised if that were to happen
can't wait to upgrade from nvidia to amd
pale quartz
more of a downgrade than anything but sure lol
prime jasper
if you had to pick between an oled display and a chair that made it feel like you were sitting on a cloud, which would you pick
nocturne drift
Darn I can't find any 2080ti anymore in marketplace
I don't wanna settle for a 3070. Ewww
coarse nimbus
nocturne drift
2080ti is faster and more vram.
coarse nimbus
stop bullying me
nocturne drift
U have 3070?
coarse nimbus
mods
nocturne drift
5090 is interesting. I don't like how the card is pretty much power limited.
I wish it would be 1 12pin + 1 8pin and 750w power limit.
coarse nimbus
i like the 5090D card sent to china with the anti AI bios on it... cough cough totally not going to get cracked instantly 👼
nocturne drift
One thing I like about 4090 is it's not power limit. I can pin 1.1v no problem.
I saw the reviews on it on bilibili.
They did every single game test with every dlss, rtx and frame gen and entire ai suite benchmarks and language models etc.
They can't find where they cut 5090D. Everything is margin of error.
molten flame
5090D seems to have the same SM count as 5090 but they disabled few of the AI cores/accelerators
toxic wigeon
Hot diggidy dog she got hot out in the living room with AC on.
terse glade
I use wraith prism with 5800X3D <:keanu:816099102584078336>
I use a be quiet dark rock 2 cooler for my 5700x3d
Works excellent
Highest temp I saw was 70c on like extreme scenario
brave sundial
if you had to pick between an oled display and a chair that made it feel like yo...
The chair.
my current display isn't an oled anyways so.. no downgrade there
digital hill
Hot diggidy dog she got hot out in the living room with AC on.
ah must have forget the thermal paste
quick locust
Pricing it too high initially and then slashing price? I am very surprised /s
willow schooner
Depends on 5070ti performance largely
quick locust
As well as having a worse market lol
small zinc
<:leo:760110335687524423> Hire me Jensen
The problem is, Nvidia/Jensen don't care. Purposely keep product low, price high so that you can keep your investors happy and market share through the roof.
They'll pretend to care with the same pre-scripted social media and press conference responses to product availability. But in the end, Nvidia and AMD are both pretty anticonsumer.
willow schooner
I dont really get how setting a price, and releasing a product is anti-consumer. Its just capitalism
Demand and supply. They arent forcing you to buy their product
small zinc
They know they're going to sell out. Aritificially create a shortage. Basic supply and demand at its finest. And this is is the trend from here on out. Started with 30 series. Everything that I can recall from Turing and previous gens, you could go to the store and buy one. There might be lines. There was excitement. Sometimes maybe sold out. But never this egregious. You were generally able to get one inside 3-6 months with relative ease.
coarse nimbus
Is it also a case of just more PC gamers/programmers utilizing the cards these days?
I dont think its a stretch to say nvidia is doing exactly what apple has been doing for years with their product launchers
small zinc
Is it also a case of just more PC gamers/programmers utilizing the cards these d...
Started with COVID. More people at home. So demand did go through the roof. Silicon companies though never had an actual shortage regardless of the narrative they wanted you to believe. There were definitely some supply chain issues, but never actual product shortages.
During that time crypto was more of a thing too obviously so Nvidia and AMD both realized they could dump their stocks to mining farms in Asia, cut out the middleman retailer, save 3% overhead and make hands over fist cash. And then blame it on "shortages"
willow schooner
There are many actual shortages due to yields tho.
toxic wigeon
The market for PC's are getting bigger. I'm not going to go schizo mode though. Pretty funny how Intel made amd run out 9800x3ds to sell.
willow schooner
AMD has shit distribution, I think that was just AMD marketting cope
coarse nimbus
Youd think at this point with how many generations amd has been hyped up.. they would have fixed distribution lines
toxic wigeon
Curious how it'll run this gen though.
small zinc
There are many actual shortages due to yields tho.
Oh I fully understand how long it takes to fabricate a particular architecture. I don't doubt yields are a potential issue. But by the time any of us find out about a product, that thing has well been in production. AMD has likely already been making Ryzen 6.
willow schooner
5090 yields are reported to be low
small zinc
Can read between the lines when you look at companies like Apple who already utilize TSMC. The M4 SoC is on the 3nm node
willow schooner
Apple just buy out all the fab time, cos they basically have infinite money
coarse nimbus
do the failed yields for a 5090 just get turned into the lower cards? or in this case is it a different architecture
willow schooner
Same for TSMC 2nm IIRC
toxic wigeon
I do think they get turned into 5080's.
willow schooner
Im not 100% certain how it works for GPU tech TBH
small zinc
do the failed yields for a 5090 just get turned into the lower cards? or in this...
I can't say for sure on that. But considering that Blackwell architecture is the same as 40 series architecture. There shouldn't be any "failed yields"
willow schooner
Its the same proccess node, it is NOT the same architecture
toxic wigeon
I wonder if they'll release the 9600x3d.
toxic wigeon
Probably be a few years before they give them out.
willow schooner
thats not architecture. Ampere, blackwell is the arch, 4nm is the node
small zinc
Ampere used Samsung. Ada and Blackwell are absolutely the same architecture.
willow schooner
The are the same PROCESS NODE, with different architectures
midnight crypt
Clearly the same thing 
small zinc
I understand that. There's more transistors and CUDA cores. Keyword being that last part
The 5090 is really a 4090 Ti.
We all know that.
willow schooner
But architecture and process node are not the same thing at all
small zinc
The only thing that has really changed is the memory bandwidth because of GDDR7
hence the gap in performance at 4k
that's really about it.
willow schooner
And the architecture...
Its literally a different GPU chip...completely different
willow schooner
You are deliberately dumb
toxic wigeon
Random question. Blackwell 2.0? Is that random or is it like a second iteration of what they wanted to release.
Or does it just not mean anything.
small zinc
There's a reason why the 5090 isn't a huge leap over the 4090. Not like Ada was to Ampere. And Ampere to Turing.
willow schooner
Obviously
your parroting back to me, what I said to you the last time we talked about this now lol
toxic wigeon
Deco and bsod are more trustful with this shit.
small zinc
Blackwell is literally the same GPU as Ada with more cores. Yes, there have been enhancements made. It is the same damn node though. I don't know what you don't understand about this.
willow schooner
Random question. Blackwell 2.0? Is that random or is it like a second iteration ...
Blackwell 1.0 was their first gen version, which was not for consumer GPUs
willow schooner
Blackwell is literally the same GPU as Ada with more cores. Yes, there have bee...
It isnt...at all
small zinc
It is.
willow schooner
No, it isnt
small zinc
Except. Hear me out.
toxic wigeon
Blackwell 1.0 was their first gen version, which was not for consumer GPUs
I was thinking those workplace gpus.
small zinc
It is.
willow schooner
Show me the die shots side by side to prove it
willow schooner
Its also completely different?
toxic wigeon
Does Blackwell 1.0 have a name of reference i could find?
willow schooner
Go back to googling all your knowledge
small zinc
And your PC knowledge comes from Gamers Nexus? Lel.
willow schooner
Ill wait for some of the other tech litterate people to come here, and once again spank you lol
toxic wigeon
Oh the b200 sxm
willow schooner
all the way back to your precious 11th grade haha
small zinc
Oh like Deco? WHo has been proven wrong on at least two occasions by me
lmao.
But your ego is astounding....
No wonder. You rely on someone else's knowledge and then claim it as your own.
willow schooner
"Its the same GPU"
willow schooner
This is me laughing at you, while providing proof its not
Entirely different GPU chip and design process
toxic wigeon
Deco despite his issues is more trustworthy than someone who goes out of their way to antagonise other users.
small zinc
Deco despite his issues is more trustworthy than someone who goes out of their w...
Like BSoD?
lol
toxic wigeon
Nah he's nowhere near as bad as you.
willow schooner
I may be rough around the edges, but I dont spout incorrect information
and I dont claim to be more intelligent. This isnt intelligence, this is looking at information provided to me, and repeating it
toxic wigeon
I may be rough around the edges, but I dont spout incorrect information
Think as it's gone on its gotten easier to talk with you.
small zinc
That's fine. You can believe Blackwell is completely different all you want. Obviously not going to argue with you anymore about it.
toxic wigeon
Could just be me.
Hey bsod by the way is this correct for blackwell 1.0? https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/b200-sxm-192-gb.c4210
192 gigs of memory is fucking hilarious.
I know this is workstation but damn man.
willow schooner
Im not sure on blackwells first version. I think that is one tho, yes. If this is the HBM memory GPU I think it is
I think this is also an MCM GPU, but again I cant remember
willow schooner
Ah yeah, it is. You can see everything is X2
toxic wigeon
Like jesus this is a memory machine.
Suggested psu being 1400w is fitting too.
In the saying of that i wonder what you could do workstation wise with it.
willow schooner
Seems like it could be crazy, tho I cant remember if this GPU suffered some of the early blackwell issues Nvidia reported
willow schooner
ha
toxic wigeon
Same braincell
midnight crypt
coarse nimbus
6090 gunna be lit though trust
brave sundial
5090 only 12% faster than 4090 in 1440p gaming
but turn on dlss 4
and fps goes brrr
coarse nimbus
jensen inventing frames from thin air
molten flame
molten flame
X
coarse nimbus
@candid flame didnt i say that AI china announcement was nothing to worry about
jensen tomorrow "oh my god guys we found millions of new stock for the 5000 series"
willow schooner
https://x.com/nrehiew_/status/1883944036811096517
molten flame
terse glade
Finally nvidia is crashing
brave sundial
Yeah, 16GB for their lowest param model
terse glade
Jensen has to sell his jackets soon
brave sundial
The mid tier models are on-par with gpt o1 too it seems
brave sundial
Jensen has to sell his jackets soon
I mean Jensen will be one of the people who will come out better from this.
All those geriatric investors who bought into the hype of them shouting 2 letters in every brand event or consumer con? Not as much
molten flame
yeah the second sentence sounds like coping tbh lol
prime jasper
we're close to AGI? That's real fucking interesting.
damn it. stupid rehersal. i missed this by hours
frail rivet
yep, we're nowhere close to artificial general intelligence
molten flame
Quantum computing likely needed for AGI
terse glade
All those geriatric investors who bought into the hype of them shouting 2 letter...
Lmao xd
toxic wigeon
POP THE AI BUBBLE HARDER.
midnight crypt
🪡
toxic wigeon
The thing is I don't hate Ai but I hate the over focus on it. I just find it funny how DeepDive comes in and functions as actual competition. Fucking everyone over.
Remember the fun fucked up images we got like that one dude with the lanky arms as a skinwalker.
That was fun.
But this isn't anymore.
We could revel at how bad they were but theorise yeah that's actually kinda funny!
pale quartz
its not over lol
toxic wigeon
Don't doubt it.
pale quartz
the sell off right now is just market panic aka a great time to buy
nvidia still wins
toxic wigeon
Since they're the forefront of cards that can utilise AI yeah.
terse glade
No one got wrecked, maybe little Timmy who invested his little savings but not the big ones
Yea but 600$ feels like 6$ billion to them
toxic wigeon
haha post I wish I did regret but if I got into nvidia stocks when I got my 3080 I would have made a pretty penny lmao.
terse glade
Biolab stem cell shit is coming big
Especially American pharma companies should make a good run
What about oil companies
Based in Texas in particular
Lol hmm yea if they produce more, prices go down
I thought the goal is to be self sustainable and independent from the arabs
Not for export
pale quartz
the us is applying tariffs to all tsmc based chips, so yeah expect massive price increases for pc parts
terse glade
Ok that's dumb
pale quartz
well
youre not too far off
the minimum is 25%, so add whatever the base cost is +25%, and a maximum of 100%
5070 increases to about 700 usd (minimum)
quick locust
Plus potential tariff against my country
Awesome
That and sanctions
Tech gonna be for rich peeps here
midnight crypt
That seems like a really bad idea
terse glade
Thx god I dont need always the newest
midnight crypt
Can Intel fabs even do anything yet on their home turf?
quick locust
pale quartz
Can Intel fabs even do anything yet on their home turf?
no is the short answer
midnight crypt
Great
willow schooner
Just as an FYI, id stay away from talking about politics at all in this server, especially stuff like this related to tarrifs. I got retro actively warned 2 times for saying similar things here 2 days ago.