technology

[toxic wigeon]

Why is no one talking about this?

It's super rude for Microsoft to push for a hardware update essentially when they're phasing out W10.

There's a difference between the future is now and that.

[cursive marten]

i mean plenty of people are talking about it

Microsoft clearly does not give a shit however so what do you expect anyone else to do.

[pale quartz]

because there is no good solution

they can not enforce it and the main reason it's done, malware, can infect users easier, or they can like they should have done way before windows 11

[cursive marten]

well i mean the solution is for AC devs to stop being such fucking dicks to linux users already but they're not going to do that

[pale quartz]

what do you expect them to do

Linux does not have a secure enclave

they can run in user mode and it's more or less not an anticheat anymore, which defeats the purpose

[cursive marten]

this is why i feel like relying on developer hosted servers, matchmaking, an not actually moderating servers are all a series of mistakes that have resulted in cheating being the way it is.

[toxic wigeon]

We might finally get a Linux build that can support kernel(?(

Who knows

[pale quartz]

where lol because nobody is making that

to be quite frank if you're using hardware which is so old to not have basic support for things such as tpm you have a responsibility as a user to be aware of your own security because at that point you're already compromised, hardware doesnt last forever and Microsoft should have done it for windows 10, nevermind 11, it's way past the point of forgiving

apple are way ahead in this department with mandatory forced encryption for boot that can't be switched off but people are for some reason complaining when Microsoft is doing the bare minimum

TPM provides secondary benefits such as the inability to spoof hardware IDs, so you can't have it both ways with anticheats enforcing security and allowing users to have it off

[cursive marten]

for some reason
are you blind or are you stupid

[pale quartz]

not blind to anything

[cursive marten]

are you sure about that

[toxic wigeon]

I'm not gonna approach this by being a dick.
You know as well as I that windows is used by a very large number of users.

[pale quartz]

yeah and those users are who those target

if you think a normal user has any concept about tpm then you're missing the point, these changes are beneficial for normal users

[toxic wigeon]

Oh yeah I'm aware. No one cares about features people just want the OS.

[pale quartz]

they would be complaining if their 3rd gen intel processor was compromised in the same capacity, so there's no win win scenario

yes it's not convenient that old hardware gets scrapped but that's how it goes

[toxic wigeon]

I understand that too. I do wish there would be greater awareness of Linux and shit even if it meant it gave something for people to use.

Yeah

It's damned if you do damned if you don't.

This is purely a processor thing though yeah?

[pale quartz]

motherboard thing

[toxic wigeon]

Oh that makes sense

[pale quartz]

CPUs hold the TPM keys, TPM modules themselves are embedded on a motherboard

[toxic wigeon]

Side note i just wish w11 wasn't full of crap so I wouldn't feel so bad for using it.

Like the one drive crap.

[pale quartz]

the quality assurance has gotten quite bad over the last year for it, OneDrive etc are just your usual corpo stuff

[toxic wigeon]

Nvm updates re enabling things.

[pale quartz]

regarding the secure enclave it's not happening anytime soon, the closest is valve and they have no plans or developments for anything of the sort for their distro

[toxic wigeon]

First thing I literally went ahead when I got my system was use your one drive uninstaller.

Last time I tried to do that on my system manually without it it didn't work.

Does a Windows cleaner exists?

[pale quartz]

the registry keys change per update, so old scripts don't work etc

the one I done is quite old so not surprised

[toxic wigeon]

Oh yeah i was gonna say shit changes places and scripts won't work as well.

Oh nah wait I'll reword it. When I got w11 way back at June, I tried to manually get rid of one drive but that didn't work which is why i asked you much later. It still works thankfully.

[pale quartz]

ah gotcha

just the ecosystem of software that future proofing is kinda impossible, they normally stop working within a year or two to most degrees

[small zinc]

He can still install windows 11 on an i3 6100

the end.

Question asked and answered.

[toxic wigeon]

That convo ended dude and you're still on it. Move on.

[pale quartz]

@toxic wigeon lmk if it doesn't work eventually I've not ran it in a while, probably will fry sooner or later

[toxic wigeon]

One to two years that's not too terrible. Sounds annoying but still.

Yeah I'll let you know!

[small zinc]

Revo Uninstaller is actually pretty solid.

Has several Windows tools built in

[pale quartz]

eh yeah just how it goes

in other news it's exactly what I said it was

[toxic wigeon]

Oh wow.

Oh fuck what's a good thing for monitoring cpu temps again? Afterburner doesn't see my 9800x3d

@pale quartz

[pale quartz]

uh you can use hwinfo64

[toxic wigeon]

Perfect. Thank you.

[pale quartz]

afterburners probably not been updated

np

[toxic wigeon]

Aren't the devs underpayed or some shit?

[pale quartz]

nah the developers for it are based in Russia and there was a whole situation where they weren't getting the contracted rate by MSI due to sanctions, that was a while ago it's probably just not been updated for compatibility

[toxic wigeon]

Oh yeah i remembered that part. Unfortunately I was thinking of it being a situation like with wilde

[pale quartz]

nah nothing like that it's a independent albeit contracted piece of software

outsourced ig is the correct term

[toxic wigeon]

Should I look at getting a faster ssd by the way? Or should I wait for that much later?

[pale quartz]

well which one have you got

[toxic wigeon]

My ssd does its job just a matter of going to buy a second ssd should it be faster or a duplicate.

980 2 tera pro for its boot

[pale quartz]

980 pro is fine unless you've got a PCIe 5 board it doesn't make that much sense, ig if you're considering it you can do so (or planning an upgrade as Blackwell is PCIe 5) but depends what your plans are

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah fair.

[pale quartz]

mostly depends on the price of whatever drive you're considering

[toxic wigeon]

It's not a priority just a thought

[pale quartz]

yeah I mean the one you've got is fine don't see much reason to switch over

the only reason I got the gen 5 4tb was cause it was cheap

I'll probably retire my sabrent drive eventually saying that

[toxic wigeon]

I'm not regretting it but I wish I put a little more thought into the motherboard cause gen 5 would have been a good one to go for. But oh well, I can just take advantage of gen 6 in a few years time.

[pale quartz]

eh just the luck of the draw, x670e isn't cheap and neither is x870

they've also got insane chipset power draw so you pick your poison

[toxic wigeon]

Pretty much.

Gen 4 should last quite a while anyways.

[pale quartz]

yeah no reason it won't

main "bottleneck" for drives are the amount of lanes they have rather than the advertised bandwidth at this point anyways

[molten flame]

7950X3D had only 120W TDP and freqeuncy/voltage limits, meanwhile 9950X3D is 170W TDP and has no limits whatsoever

curious about overclocking capability

[pale quartz]

going to be pointless

[molten flame]

lol

[pale quartz]

similar to the 9800x3d it's bound by memory

[molten flame]

cache doesn't care much about clocks right

[pale quartz]

it does just there's nothing to gain to a degree that matters

the performance is CL/frequency bound rather than core clocks

[molten flame]

Zen 6 better have new I/O

[pale quartz]

no idea on if medusa has a reworked IOD as of now

[molten flame]

imagine if they did it again

[pale quartz]

who knows, for now assume it's not on AM5 platform wise though

[molten flame]

DDR6 is likely

maybe they do AM5 with DDR6 slots

[pale quartz]

uh yeah would never happen

you'd need cross compatibility with DDR5 because of the chipset

[brave sundial]

I mean they literally are giving you an option to update to 11 without TPM 2 now

just not the full 11 experience though

But hey, atleast it's something

[pale quartz]

no they're not

the support document just highlights what happens if you do, there's no instructions to do so, the pc world article was wrong and those instructions were always there

unless you're referring to LTSC home/pro there's no sanctioned way to

[brave sundial]

oh, you mean the articles that stated they allowed for updates without the module but without any OTAs afterwards?

[pale quartz]

yeah

that article source didn't exist

[brave sundial]

Oh

[pale quartz]

the author cited fake info the support doc never gave any such info

and warning on what happens has been there since it launched, isn't anything new, just the usual tech reporting nonsense

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/no-microsoft-isnt-letting-you-install-windows-11-on-unsupported-hardware

other than the 30-40% performance drop it's a awful idea because your updates will eventually break in addition

[brave sundial]

honestly W11 isn't that bad at all. Except basically further accelerating the death of the control panel and copilot garbage

The taskbar control centre it great and they finally added the calender back from w10, my only gripe

[brave sundial]

ah, so that's the part they misquoted

Instead claiming that they just won't allow for OTAs

[pale quartz]

yeah

[quick locust]

Imagine using windows

[dry pike]

Don't have to imagine. It's not perfect, but it's the best we got.

[ivory creek]

i tried to plug in my new samsung oled monitor with a displayport instead of hdmi, and it makes the screen corrupt and crash the monitor after a while. with other words its faulty. i dont wanna do the hassle to contact support and put the monitor back into a package and wait for a new one. should i just ignore it and use only hdmi and be happy?

😐

it will take forever

[dry pike]

Try another cable and another device. But if it still happens you already listed your options and there is no good option.

[ivory creek]

ye... this sucks

i was so happy about this monitor

damn

[dry pike]

Might wanna ask Samsung if theres a firmware update that fix it

[ivory creek]

i did an update

they released a new one today

but it didnt fix it

[dry pike]

#sadtimes

[ivory creek]

sadge

[midnight crypt]

You should definitely try a different DP cable if you haven't already

[ivory creek]

i only have the one that followed with the monitor

but sure ill buy another one

wait ihave another old one

idk if its rated high enough to support this monitor tho, its already over regular specs

360hz

1440p

fcking hell. it seem to work on dp now

they sent me a faulty cable

that was it

nice

thanks arc

[midnight crypt]

[dry pike]

Didn't I tell you to do that? 😄
Also, remember to tell Samsung / the place you bought it for the chance of a replacement cable.

[ivory creek]

oh right u told me to try another cable aswell, im blind, thank you too carbo

haha

speaking about the monitor, the 4k version of this monitor was just officialy added as gsync compatible with the latest nvidia drivers

what are the chances that the 1440p one will aswell in a later one?

[ivory creek]

pro tip, always buy your samsung stuff from their official site, you get rewardpoints that you can use as money on a later purchase, i got a 120euros worth of points from this monitor that i used to buy a smart watch

you sometimes get longer warranty aswell

[pastel field]

Pebble X is bigger than Pebble V3 (d0k's)

/o\

[high karma]

Command not found

o\\ is not a valid command.

Use the help command to see the list of all commands.

[brave sundial]

Just get the amazon basics one

[pastel field]

you're also a pebble @brave sundial

pebble enjoyer

[brave sundial]

[digital hill]

I got a solution just buy the edifiers

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA? you cannot go wrong

[ivory creek]

So i just got my galaxy watch, not sure what to do with it lol, just been switching music on spotify so far

[digital hill]

Just like buying my xp laptop

I mean if anything needs serial its a good base station for that

[ivory creek]

i wonder if i could use my watch to take controll over my computers spotify and switch songs easily on the go

that would be cool

having people over and just tap my watch to switch song

[dry pike]

I do that

[ivory creek]

cool

ill just have to figure out how

[dry pike]

Start it on the computer, then start spotify on the watch. As long as it's the same account and network it should work.

[ivory creek]

ye i cant find spotify on my watch, but when im running it on my phone it shows up

ill have to see if i can install it seperatly

[dry pike]

My pixel 2 can install it

[ivory creek]

ye i pressed install spotify on the watch but it keep saying waiting to install

i havent figured out how this works yet

[dry pike]

Charging the watch while installing sometimes help

[ivory creek]

now it say installed, its not as fast as my s24

lol

aw yeah

it works now

i can controll my computers spotify

[dry pike]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-party-gif-19979978

[ivory creek]

theyve even added a button for the dj, which took them ages to add to the pc client

it was only on the mobile app first

lol

i think i made someone upset in the spotify discord by mentioning the dj btw, i talked about it and someone came in asking how they start it, i said just press the green circle if you have premium. he said he didnt have any. later a mod came in and said its not out in every region yet

lol

[uncut pendant]

hell yeah got openSUSE on my system now

painless af

[toxic wigeon]

Sus?

Dude I'm sorry because you capitalised "SUSE" I had a complete mental blankout.

[brave sundial]

Maturing is going back to the ol reliable instead of the bleeding edge for distros

atleast that's what someone told me once

[uncut pendant]

OpenSUSE has been so reliable

[sly gazelle]

question, does anyone know or have a fix for this crashing issue, i play bfv and bf2042 on xbox gamepass and when i download the game, it lets me run it without crashing and i can be in the main menue but right when i hop into a game a few seconds later my game crashes and takes me to the ea launcher it doesnt even give me an error code. Can someone please help ir eally want to play my favirate games and it didnt even happen before, i tried a few fixes like going into the game codes restarting pc reparing the game and stuff but i just cant seem to get it.

[feral canyon]

hellloo I just downloaded 2042 and am getting this error: DirectX function "GetDeviceRemovedReason" failed with
DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_RESET ("The device failed due to a badly formed
command. This is a run-time issue; The application should destroy and
recreate the device."). GPU: "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU",
Driver: 56636. This error is usually caused by the graphics driver
crashing:

try installing the latest drivers. the problem is I have the latest driver please help thanks 🙂

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/468358707890094081/1322393272340971570/N0xDiVu.png?ex=6770b635&is=676f64b5&hm=fd87d8db53ce2d82c40f1d52ebac60bcba0050ad9a4aceebd007fff2efcdd544&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=668&height=671

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-to-feature-1667-power-design-and-14-layer-pcb

[ivory creek]

so the galaxy watch 7 is full of health and medical sensors but you need real working medical equipment to calibrate the watch. most people dont have that. whats the use then?

[pale quartz]

its a heart rate sensor

you can just order them off Amazon they're not that expensive

[ivory creek]

if i had the money i would invest in my own medical lab to slow down my aging like Bryan Johnson

[pale quartz]

..

[terse glade]

[candid flame]

he's barely doing it though

he tripped once and his ankle was bruised so much like it went through world war 1 and returned

also needs to constantly drain fresh blood from his son

[midnight crypt]

Definitely a weirdo

[molten flame]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-arc-b580-in-teardown-board-topology-power-consumption-with-load-peaks-and-a-putty-mod/3/

80 watts more than 4060

I schleep

[midnight crypt]

Baby steps and it's not like your average joe even cares or knows in the first place how much power it draws

[molten flame]

https://spectrum.ieee.org/tsmc-arizona

[sly gazelle]

question, does anyone know or have a fix for this crashing issue, i play bfv and bf2042 on xbox gamepass and when i download the game, it lets me run it without crashing and i can be in the main menue but right when i hop into a game a few seconds later my game crashes and takes me to the ea launcher it doesnt even give me an error code. Can someone please help ir eally want to play my favirate games and it didnt even happen before, i tried a few fixes like going into the game codes restarting pc reparing the game and stuff but i just cant seem to get it.

[terse glade]

💪

I wish Germany would also do that but we scared all investors away with our energy prices and shutting off nukes

😦

[coarse nimbus]

this dudes basement needs to be looked at

[candid flame]

nah he airs all his dirty creepy stuff out lmao

no need to look anywhere

he calls his son his "blood boy"

[coarse nimbus]

must be a fun time at the family dinner table during holidays

[ivory creek]

fucking hell thats like the bloodbags from mad max, not okey

[terse glade]

[brave sundial]

[prime jasper]

Rich people can use their kids to harvest fluids but if a poor Americans can't find adequate housing they lose their kids instead of having housing secured for them 🇺🇸

Makes me chub up every time I hear the star spangled banner

[terse glade]

You expect any sanity im this late Roman empire era

[prime jasper]

only cure is Attila, the scourge of God. How's he doing these days?

[terse glade]

Waiting for the perfect moment to invade

[toxic wigeon]

You know I'd mention women in the US but that's apparently too political for here.

But in seriousness

Actual unwilling blood donor.

[prime jasper]

I pay my taxes and follow laws. That's the extent of my patriotism.

yeah, unwilling blood donor

for narcissism no less

[toxic wigeon]

Fuck having my life extended.

World is too dogshit to live in so I may as well play the course and die when it's time up.

[prime jasper]

And what emotional effect will this have on his kid? "My dad was so close to discovering immortality. Maybe if I have two kids donate me plasma, I can succeed where he failed"

[toxic wigeon]

You never know. The kid might fare better as he's always regenerating new blood. (The goat eating the leaves and coming back stronger kinda deal but we aren't plants nor am I saying this is good to any degree)

[prime jasper]

eh, I don't even mind about the fluid loss. it's just engaging in that behavior to honestly try and attain immortality. cringe.

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah.

[prime jasper]

anyway, before I go full rage mode. I got my 3 way-splitter for my AIO fans today. one of the pins broke off of my last splitter. good day!

[toxic wigeon]

Crazy

I am thinking about getting some top fans for my pc.

The thing that annoys me about PC components is that they (can) utilise software bloatware for you to control it other than a universal Windows app.

I get bios settings and all.

[prime jasper]

only program i use is FanControl. i don't think it's bloatware, but I could just be an ignorant fool

[toxic wigeon]

I think it's cool but on another end like really?

It's like like uh

Corsair ICUE

Unless you are actively using it yourself.

That make sense?

[prime jasper]

when I installed my splitter, I fully disabled RGB in my case when I ripped out all the SATA connectors. So yeah, it makes sense. I hate running software.

there is no iCue in my system. I made custom curves in FanControl and it loads up when I start windows.

have to sets of 3x120 mm fans for aio, two spots on motherboard for CPU_fan and optional. 3 case fans also go directly into motherboard.

i will never get anything with icue, ever.

[toxic wigeon]

What da fuck

One of the things I wish I could do is use my GPU as the front fan for my pc as dumb as that sounds.

I'm literally looking at getting a wooting keyboard purely to avoid bloatware.

Since you can mess with it online.

[prime jasper]

that isn't dumb. that's what my AIO is. it is the intake for my computer lol

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah exactly which made me think hmm yes I would love a watercooled pc but then it's like an extra 25% on top for gpu price ahaha

[prime jasper]

nah. my gpu is air cooled. i'm not a rich boi

[toxic wigeon]

4090 is 3000 aud here and a watercooled variant 4000.

I should have specified gpu but yeah.

I prefer air.

For... obvious reasons.

My fan cooler popped off a few months ago and I was wondering why my CPU was overheating.

The heat sink alone kept my CPU "cool" enough for 2042.

[terse glade]

bro

[brave sundial]

Oh damn, is that the asuka one?

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah the evangelion one.

[brave sundial]

worth it

no but seriously 13k

[toxic wigeon]

You could buy 4 4090s with that money!

[brave sundial]

I thought it would be like 3-4k

but they can't replace asuka

[prime jasper]

hey, it's $31.49 off!

that's a hell of a deal

[toxic wigeon]

DUDE

[terse glade]

4090 SLI setup

[toxic wigeon]

It's so funny going into the drink shops and seeing their thousand dollars bottles for a dollar off.

Like good discount I guess.

[terse glade]

with 128 ddr5 6000mhz ram

[toxic wigeon]

I'm wondering if the 5090 will fit in my pc.

And I hope I won't be affected by the tariffs even though I'm in Australia.

[midnight crypt]

Everyone will be affected

[toxic wigeon]

Oh wait too political

[toxic wigeon]

Pretty much

[prime jasper]

all I do is game. I'll worry about getting a new video card in like, 6 years maybe if I'm not dead.

[toxic wigeon]

PC's feel like an investment.

When I got my 9800x3d I literally noted oh I won't have to do anything until 2028.

And even then I might give it more time cause my living circumstances will be different.

[brave sundial]

4 years is a bit too low don't you think? The 7800X3D is still an amazing deal, hell the 5800X3D is too.

And amd recently released refreshes of those too

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah.

I dunno

We'll see.

[prime jasper]

i put a ryzen 5 4500 in my kid's computer. it's more than adequate for gaming.

and it was like, eating out money

[terse glade]

thats how i feel with my 5700x3d as well ^^

[toxic wigeon]

Oh dude your younger family members are bins for your hardware it's funny. I plan to do the same for my nephew.

Kids usually play stuff that's not too intensive anyways.

[ivory creek]

you have all those? care to share? 😄

[molten flame]

Over $10K

[brave sundial]

you proved leather jacket man's point

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-series-reportedly-sticking-to-8-pin-power-connectors-launch-end-of-january#disqus_thread

[toxic wigeon]

"9800x3d enhanced" what does that mean? I know it's nothing but what?

[molten flame]

[brave sundial]

i have it too on 5800X, just checked. Seems like it's just different sensors on the mobo

[willow schooner]

It just means the sensor is giving additional data iirc. Nothing special about the cpu itself.

[toxic wigeon]

Maybe meaning it can be overclocked or something since you mention that.

[ivory creek]

thats a really good looking jacket tho. i kinda want it

a site claim its a Tom Ford jacket for 8,990usd

ouch

[brave sundial]

How many of them does the man have in his wardrobe

must be enough to exceed the cost of a good car

[dry pike]

Doesn't matter when you got Nvidia money

[brave sundial]

literal governments bending their backs to you kind of money

[finite citrus]

https://youtu.be/R6_wcv2JBlA

[terse glade]

At this position he don't buy anymore. He receives. Like latest collection to test and keep

I worked for a online clothing company and influencers have a yearl spending allowance of 10k€. Means they can buy whatever they want. And that were 200k subscribers influencers so relatively small

It was marked as gift card for tax reasons i guess

[little cape]

Any fellow photographers here 👀

[digital hill]

I wonder, for construction how useful would this be

[brave sundial]

Damn, crazy

[small zinc]

5090 will have a 16+6+7 power delivery design and a 14 layer PCB

lol

Already "listed" for $2600, though that was a chinese site not accounting for VAT

So if remotely true on pricing. $2200 "MSRP". Likely $2500+ 3rd party. $3000+ at launch for scalping.

What a time to be alive.

[ivory creek]

Isnt it rumored to have 32gb of vram aswell? Who really need all that, a 5070ti will be more than enough

[pale quartz]

it has 32 yes

it's not particularly designed for gamers, more users interested in AI inference

you may think it's a lot but it's really not that much when you're talking hpc vram parts

[ivory creek]

Yeah i meant for gaming

[pale quartz]

the card isn't targeted towards gamers

that's why the 5080 has 16gb

[coarse nimbus]

5070ti with 8gb? papa jensen tells me thats enough

[ivory creek]

8gb? Wont it have 16 aswell

[coarse nimbus]

one could only hope but wasnt that the joke last week nvidia trying to say 8gb was still enough

[toxic wigeon]

What gains will it have over the 4090? May you as well just get a 5080?

[pale quartz]

roughly equal to the 4090

and no, because the 4090 has more vram for 4k textures

16gb can and will be maxed at 4k

[toxic wigeon]

To be fair the 4090 was such a substantial boost in power i still can't comprehend it so.

Like i know differing factors but what should be the boost over the 4090?

Err

4090 to 5090.

[pale quartz]

about 30-40% depending on the workload

[toxic wigeon]

Nvidia cucking vram once again.

Ah yeah

You said more AI focused so it's like well fuck. I'm not gonna be using half those features.

[pale quartz]

yes you will

lol

[toxic wigeon]

I don't like false frames either.

I know I'll indirectly use them.

[pale quartz]

no you'll use them because Nvidias featureset for AI is more than most realise at this point, DLAA, is AI, etc, so you'll use it

[toxic wigeon]

While I'm still up for getting the card i just don't see how I'll use it all up. I hope they can use AI to reduce power.

Oh right dlss is ai

[pale quartz]

yes

I have no idea about if the neural rendering is real or not the engineers I speak to aren't privy to that

[toxic wigeon]

To be fair as well since you said it wasn't particularly designed for gamers it just sounded like a card not for me.

I hope it'll be a good card though for both sides.

[pale quartz]

if you're buying a 5090 you care about 1 of two things;
1; running games at max detail for 4k
2: wanting to do some pseudo-AI tasks which it itself isnt that particularly great at like deep learning because it's vram is tiny compared to what you require for that

it'll be the best card in the consumer discrete space for gaming, so it's the best "good" you can buy

[willow schooner]

The more realistic use case, due to the popularity of extreme high hz OLED panels

• Another 3-4 years of max settings high refresh rate 1440p gaming.

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah I hope to get a dedicated 4k monitor after getting the card.

On 1440p that shit will last forever

But extreme bottleneck.

[pale quartz]

people can talk about how expensive it is and it doesn't matter because it will sell no matter what

[toxic wigeon]

But hey ultra pretty!

[toxic wigeon]

I just can't believe how quickly it sells out.

[pale quartz]

at 1440p you will be CPU limited way before GPU limited

[toxic wigeon]

Though I think people buy it en masse and or purposely scuffed supply

[willow schooner]

Have nvidia start doing display in, and take all the capture card companies business haha

[pale quartz]

[toxic wigeon]

Seriously though was the 4090 really that popular or was it bought en masse as you know? Or even just scuffed supply to keep the value up @pale quartz

[pale quartz]

no it was popular lol

nvidias halo product always sells out instantly

[small zinc]

You're sorely mistaken if you don't think it's not "targeted" for gamers. There's a reason they put GeForce on the box. You don't think Titan was the same way? Was never meant to be a gaming GPU, but Jensen knew what he was doing. Once he slapped Geforce GTX on the box, it became a gamer GPU instead of a high compute GPU.

[pale quartz]

its not targeted towards gamers, because gamers dont have any other option

[small zinc]

It's absolutely targeted for gamers

lmao

[pale quartz]

theres no such thing as a target my guy

youre missing the point

[small zinc]

so your argument collapsed in on itself?

[pale quartz]

...

[willow schooner]

Steam HW stats last month

4090 at 1.01%
7900XTX at 0.44%
RX 6800 at 0.22%
7700XT at 0.16%

All those AMD cards together account for less users than are running 4090s...the halo product from Nvidia

[pale quartz]

the xtx was about half what a 4090 cost at launch aswell

[willow schooner]

4090 is positioned as "The best consumer card money can buy". that encompases gaming, AI, compute, encoding, ETC. Its not especially targetting "Gamers", it just is the best gaming card.

[toxic wigeon]

I'm sad that the XTX was just plagued by annoying drivers.

Its a good card on paper but goddamn.

[pale quartz]

its defects are on a architecture level

the drivers were just a mess at launch

[small zinc]

The point is. "Gamers" want the best money can buy. Does that mean every consumer? Obviously not. Not everyone can afford a $2,000+ GPU. But those who can want the best. In teh case of Ada, the 4090 was the only GPU worth a damn in the entire Ada lineup. The 4080 and below simply didn't make sense price wise. Anyone who knows a shred about PC hardware knows that and bought the 4090. Nvidia purposely gimps the lesser SKU's and still charges a premium for them when they match previous generation performance at best. The 90 series is absolutely targeted at gamers with the cash for them after Nvidia did away with Titan branding.

[toxic wigeon]

The card boosting itself and crashing was a sight to behold.

[small zinc]

AMD has been plagued by bad drivers since the Radeon days....

[brave sundial]

Yeah I'd buy one for running a huge contextual-window model locally

[small zinc]

This. Lmao.

[brave sundial]

if only I had that kind of money just lying around though

[pale quartz]

yes money is the be all end all

[brave sundial]

Turns out gamers don't care about pricing

PS5 Pro sales are in and it sold very well according to Sony

[pale quartz]

theyve not cared since turing that was over a half a decade ago too

[brave sundial]

"no one will buy $700 console lol"

[small zinc]

That might be the fancy language their marketing team came up with. But we all know who is actually buying the GPU's. Steam Hardware stats alone prove that. Anyone who is need of a high end compute GPU is going the Quadro route instead.

[coarse nimbus]

"$350 upgrade" you mean

[brave sundial]

Totally worth it for Bloodborne bro , that will be ps5 pro exclusive obviously

[small zinc]

I bought one. But I sold an Ally X to get it. I was never going to use my Ally X again since I'm no longer going on deployments and retire in just under 3 years. I mean lets be honest. The extra cores in the GPU isn't noticeable. We're paying $200 more for another terabyte of m.2

[coarse nimbus]

imagine paying all that money for a souls slop game

[small zinc]

Hell in most cases, the PS5 Pro has negative scaling

Unless the game is specifially optimized for it, the performance actually drops in some cases.

[brave sundial]

but bro, fromsoft are such underdogs, AAAAAAA developers. Japanese devs that put the west to shame

[coarse nimbus]

insert the cringe is too much gif

[brave sundial]

I'm waiting for the ally 2 honestly.

[brave sundial]

don't go to certain 'gaming' communities because that's how some people legitimately think

[small zinc]

I personally hate Darksouls/Soulsborne games.....Insert obligatory "Git Gud" comments. I hate how difficult those games are and get zero enjoyment out of them. But I do see where people enjoy them. What I give From Software credit, is their games are polished. Like them or hate them, they jsut work. There isn't "day one patches". There isn't jank, or performance issues. They just work.

[willow schooner]

False. It drops because of incompetent developers, not the hardware

[small zinc]

Lol, so.....

Not false?

[willow schooner]

You are saying the hardware itself is causing games to have lower performance. Not true

[small zinc]

I didn't say anything about the hardware. I just said it gets negative scaling in some games. And yeah I believe that to be lazy development practices

[willow schooner]

Stupid developers putting out bad patches, pushing the hardware too much is causing frame drops

You literally just said

"Hell in most cases, the PS5 Pro has negative scaling"

All the pro improves is the GPU, so CPU limited games will see next to nodifference

[small zinc]

It does. The quote stands as correct. And I'm agreeing with you that it's not necessarily hardware related.

It's just like PC gaming. PC hardware is infinitely stronger than an Xbox or Playstation.

[willow schooner]

Its entirely not hardware related, as base games will always run the same , or better on the pro

[small zinc]

But how many times do we get shitty ports from developers on PC

I agree with you

[coarse nimbus]

like every time?

[brave sundial]

how much more UE5 slop before devs get it right

[coarse nimbus]

ue6 will solve all 🙏

[willow schooner]

5 years when UE5 is actually optimized and not merely "Production ready"

[brave sundial]

In Tim sweeney we trust

[small zinc]

God I hope soon. Global Illumination > Ray Tracing

[coarse nimbus]

send those light rays through the solid wall baby

if i could go back in time id pre order stalker 2 5 years ago when it was supposed to come out, just to have that feature in muh game

[brave sundial]

I mean we still get UE4 games and they perform like shit so that 5 years is probably the minimum timeframe tbh

truth is, that engine just isn't the best for open world.

Atleast what I feel

[willow schooner]

Its the devs, not the engines fault. You wouldnt blame the hammer for breaking a window, you'd blame the person holding that hammer

[small zinc]

I know that GI can use path tracing. The two aren't necessarily oppposing technologies. But Global Illumination uses far less resources, and produces better visual fidelity.

[brave sundial]

Jedi Survivor is still garbage in performance, almost 2 years from launch

It still needs updates

[willow schooner]

UE5 can be very performant, and look great...if developers spend the time to optimize, and stop just using stock blueprints/features.

[brave sundial]

I don't even want to know what Jedi3 will look like on full on UE5

[small zinc]

Can we all just acknowledge that Ray Tracing was always, and will always be a gimmick? There's a reason most developers didn't jump on that bandwagon. I can't wait until UE5 becomes better optimized.

[brave sundial]

EA better not believe if the new director acts like the old and straight up lies to them on the state of the game so they can cash in quicker

[willow schooner]

But as UE5 is constantly changing, and users/managers want the new shiny stuff in their games...a lot of dev teams are forced to add this not so ready for production stuff to their games.

[brave sundial]

[dry pike]

I quite enjoyed Jedi Survivor.

[coarse nimbus]

minus that one fight....

ok more than 1

[brave sundial]

Yeah it was an amazing game, as a sw fan it felt like a game from the LucasArts days with how feature-full it was

But I'd be lying to say if the game ran buttery smooth

[small zinc]

Let's be honest. Jedi Survivor is the only reason EA still has Disney/Star Wars license permissions.

[terse glade]

Make frostbite great again

[brave sundial]

The game is still a stutterfest in some areas of the worlds. Respawn's response was: "yeah ok whatever"

[small zinc]

Hey I liked Anthem!!!

runs and hides in the corner now

[brave sundial]

that's not really how the license works

But I blame modern game development for why they cancelled the Mandalorian game

[coarse nimbus]

those poor devs being forced to work with frostbite

[brave sundial]

atleast we are getting Titanfall 3 again I suppose

[dry pike]

Nah, Battlefront did really good for what it tried to do. There was a lot of focus on the bad things about the games that the good were largely ignored which was a shame. The photogrammetry they used while still achieving good performance was really something.

[brave sundial]

[toxic wigeon]

With a 5090 i can finally play a UE5 game at a constant 60 FPS.

[small zinc]

Perhaps. But after that Battlefront 2 abortion, Disney was actively looking for any other developer/publisher to make games.

[coarse nimbus]

oops sorry, looks like its apex 3 this time

[brave sundial]

-# *Without raytracing on

-# *With DLSS3 Frame Gen

[brave sundial]

Yeah and they aren't really getting far much with that right now. EA is kind of still their best option for AAA lol

Outlaws certainly wasn't the hit Ubi was expecting it to be

[small zinc]

Eh...Tomato Tomato. The backlash for the egregious lootbox debacle overshadowed anything good about the game.

[dry pike]

I long for the days when new tech were introduced by DirectX and thus covered all brands. The Nvidia specific tech is getting a bit much, especially since it's outdated almost imidiately.

[toxic wigeon]

For real for real

[brave sundial]

Disney need to cut down those egregious fees. That's likely the main reason why they cut it. Too expensive of a risk if the game didn't do insanely well, which is the only way they can even break-even with these ballooning game costs

[toxic wigeon]

In seriousness I hope there'll he a larger focus on making older games compatible with modern hardware and operating systems.

[dry pike]

indeed

[toxic wigeon]

I wouldn't mind shelling 20 bucks for mechwarrior 1 to 4 if it meant I could actually play them.

Mech 3 crashes at start up.

[brave sundial]

Spider-Man 2 is absolutely partially coming earlier because spending more than $300mill and keeping the game on a single platform is not sustainable in the long run.

[toxic wigeon]

Mech 4 I need dgvoodoo files.

Mech 2 is ancient.

Mech 1 crashes on DOSBOX.

[small zinc]

Unfortunately it's Ubisoft. Kind of always in the same boat as EA. People love to hate their games regardless of if their ACTUALLY good or not. While good is subjective, we're in this new age of bashing on games and it's a relatively new trend to review bomb games. Star Wars Outlaws is actually pretty fun.

[brave sundial]

Are the mechwarrior games under the same publisher and relatively same agreements with platforms? If so then that could happen someday

Old armored core games are in license hell from how fromsoft gave publishing rights to just about anyone who accepted it from them.

And now that 6 was a success, getting those rights back will not be very cheap..

They gave out rights to Sega, EA, Ubisoft, 505.

[toxic wigeon]

Gogs inititive program is a good idea.

Uh

[brave sundial]

Yeah I've seen gameplay, it looks fun. Worlds look beautiful and immersive, as expected from massive. But in this day and age, publishers just can't afford to have games that are 'just fine' and perform 'ok' unfortunately

[toxic wigeon]

@brave sundial Activision published mech 1 and 2. Hasbro published mech 3 and Microsoft published mech 4.

[dry pike]

GOG has lots of good ideas. The problem is that it's very hard to break through Steams monopoly. Just see the The Epic client.

[toxic wigeon]

All of them have been under different devs too.

[brave sundial]

Back in the PS2 to 360/PS3 days yeah, we had like 8 star wars games coming out every year. Alot of them were mediocre

[toxic wigeon]

Mech 5 has been published by PGI.

[small zinc]

It's unfortunate that most developers aren't willing to take risks either. If a game isn't a massively MP milsim, Battle Royale, or established RPG, then it's ineveitably going to fail....

What we need is for Twitch to die.

[brave sundial]

Well Microsoft owns 3 of them now. I could see it happening maybe under them. Hasbro, I doubt care.

[small zinc]

That's the problem with most games today in my opinion.

[brave sundial]

so hey, it could happen I feel

[small zinc]

Look at Call of Duty. It's been the same game since Modern Warfare 2007. It hasn't changed a single bit.

I get the whole "if it ain't broke...."

But man. Goes to show that developers don't WANT to take risks anymore.

[toxic wigeon]

Who knows really. Nobody really cares about mechwarrior any more sadly.

Well I don't mean to be depressing.

But it's a very old franch

[small zinc]

Cries in Hawken....

[brave sundial]

I wouldn't say it's twitch, more like a byproduct of that. Main problem kind of is.. pressure from being publicly owned

[burnt coyote]

ac shadows will likely underperform

[terse glade]

That and with Japan theme it has too strong concurrent with ghost of tsushima and the upcoming title

A remake of ancient rome would have been cool in odyssey style

[toxic wigeon]

What's up with hwinfo saying my ram is running at 3000mhz when my bios says 6000?

FUCKING NEVERMIND

HAHA CLOCK NOT FREQUENCY

HAHAHAHAHAHAHDUJIKSALDHBSADK

[pale quartz]

remember ddr means double

[toxic wigeon]

Ohhh

yeah

I was mostly thinking CL30.

[quick locust]

3000 MHz 6000 MT/s

[molten flame]

3D ram when

[dry pike]

it already is

look up V-NAND 3D NAND 🙂

[willow schooner]

Or HBM/HBM2

[dry pike]

I want 4D RAM. I want the ram to be able to look into the future what I'm going to do, an load the stuff into memory right before that.

[digital hill]

I know what you mean

They call it quantum ram

[dry pike]

QRAM already exists, and sadly it's not time traveling

[small zinc]

double data rate. dual channel.

[ivory creek]

i just got an update to the nvidia controlpanel from the microsoft store app. i thought stuff like that were updated from new nvidia drivers. is this normal

[dry pike]

Drivers don't install anything, they are the thing being installed, like being installed from software like the Nvidia app.

Since the new Nvidia app is a Windows store app it will automatically be updated from there

[ivory creek]

ye but usually u get stuff from the software you download from nvidias webpage

not microsoft store

[dry pike]

The previous software could update itself, this new one is not different.

But yes, downloading the driver from the Nvidia website can also be used to update the software. But since the Nvidia app updates itself and the driver there's no need.

[ivory creek]

i dont use nvidia app since they doesnt seem to have their default filters and settings under controll which can cause performance loss

[dry pike]

Just disable filters? Takes like 2 seconds. Also, the latest default settings for the app has it off by default.

[ivory creek]

ye but performance draining filters should all be off from default. most people want a plug n play experience

[dry pike]

They were not meant to be performance draining when no filter is activated. That's a bug.

[ivory creek]

ye, thats why i dont use nvidia app yet

[dry pike]

Anyways, doesn't matter if you didn't use them before just disable it. The rest of the app is fine.

Or don't use it. But if you don't use it no reason to have windows store update it

[ivory creek]

the windows store app updated the old panel

it didnt install the nvidia app

[ivory creek]

my galaxy watch 7 is officially cursed, i keep uninstalling several of the stupid "essential apps" but the watch reinstall them on its own

[dry pike]

I had to drop my Samsung watch and go with a Google one instead. The Samsung ecosystem can drop dead.

[brave sundial]

And yet Samsung takes wear OS more seriously than Google themselves

[small zinc]

The only Samsung products I like are televisions. And that's about it. Samsung OLED > LG OLED

I have a Samsung Washer and Dryer, and they work well enough. Still would have preferred an LG on appliances though

[dry pike]

[brave sundial]

For some time Google basically barely acknowledged wear OS. They are doing it again now but honestly I'd get a galaxy watch over a pixel watch

It helps that you don't need to pay a subscription for basic health features too

[small zinc]

Apple Watch over both imo. #Preferences

[brave sundial]

Also I like my rotational bezel

[small zinc]

Apple Watch OS > Galaxy Wear OS

But then again. Apple had a 6 year head start on wearables. So it's really just preference at this point.

What you use it for. Supposedly the Health App on the Galaxy wearables is maybe a little better with the capability to measure BMI. Apple wearables do generally have a superior screen, faster response time, better scroll rate, better sleep tracking, superior hardware internals, an OS built from the ground up over a stripped version of Android. and I do prefer Apple Music over Spotify. But that's a Ford vs. Chevy argument there so its pointless.

[ivory creek]

apple will create a new innovation in 2026.... a foldable phone, sheesh

[prime jasper]

my wife had a Galaxy watch. she washed her hands with it on, it got water damaged, and they wouldn't RMA it. they had ads on their website with someone surfing while waring one but told her she was using it outside the warranty specifications.

she has a google watch now. my apple watch destroys them both

[molten flame]

factual?

[willow schooner]

Ask one of the 20 people who bought arrow lake I guess 😜

[coarse nimbus]

they really took an Arrow in the knee

[prime jasper]

I'm starting to feel like I did when I had a Pentium 4 in 2000. I was ashamed to tell people.

may be time to switch to AMD the next build so I can step into the light

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-3-205-8-core-arrow-lake-desktop-cpu-confirmed-by-south-korean-ecommerce-platform

4 P-cores and 4 E-cores

there is a 4-core/8-thread Epyc CPU under $150 that's definitely faster than this, as it's almost as fast as the Ryzen 5 7500F

[willow schooner]

Weird CPU for sure, especially considering no HT

[coarse nimbus]

as a long time intel user... whats HT?

[willow schooner]

Hyperthreading

Arrow lake has none

[coarse nimbus]

my price point CPUs never had it

then 8k series comes around and i got 6 cores!.... still no HT though

[dry pike]

Hyperthreading is so early 2000s

[willow schooner]

Most have had HT, with the exception of some Intel 9000 series CPUs (9600k, 9700k, ETC)

[molten flame]

there were CPUs with multithreading in commercial PCs dating as far back to the 1970s lol

[dry pike]

multithreading does not equal hyperthreading

[coarse nimbus]

oh god i saw something over the weekend from a 80's movie that looked absolutely maddening for them to pull off

[molten flame]

Hyperthreading is literally just Intel's own branding of multithreading

[willow schooner]

No, it isnt

lol

[coarse nimbus]

https://youtu.be/vhJVhQpLdr4?si=mZiZ8OTJPik5B2BU&t=996 manually digitizing a 2d ship to turn it into 3d polygons

[coarse nimbus]

so many of these older movies where it ends up being "oh yeah they wrote the program to be able to do it"

[willow schooner]

Hyperthreating (HT) and Simultaneous Multi-Threading (SMT) are equivilant technologies from Intel and AMD. Multithreading is the programing of apps to work synchronously across multiple CPU cores/threads

[willow schooner]

Read the expanded explanation and stop using google as your brain

[dry pike]

Hyperthreading makes one physical processor act like two virtual processors, while multithreading runs multiple tasks (threads) within a single program at the same time. So, hyperthreading is good at multithreading, but it's not the same.

[willow schooner]

And Arrow lake lacks this

[molten flame]

HT and SMT are both virtual processors, which means they are functionally similar

[willow schooner]

HT is a form of SMT.

[molten flame]

threads aren't any physical part of the chip at all, entirely just a virtual thing

[willow schooner]

And this statement is entirely incorrect regardless

[dry pike]

The point to note is the "Simultaneous" part of SMT. That's what makes the term comparable with hyperthreading. Remove that and leave the multithreading and they are not comparable.

[molten flame]

AMD used to have a different form of SMT called CMT for Bulldozer CPUs

[willow schooner]

It was more like they had to, due to that architectures design

But effectively, yeah. they did

Man I remember swapping from a 3770k to an 8350, what a n00b I was back then. Instantly went back to the 3770k haha

[molten flame]

HT going away on Intel was mostly because of efficiency

[willow schooner]

Not at all, its because they couldnt get the scheduling to work on arrow lake

[molten flame]

HT on Intel causes up to 30% increase in power draw

[willow schooner]

You think intel care about 30% extra power for 15-20% faster MT?

[molten flame]

Ryzen is much more efficient with SMT hence why they kept SMT on Zen 4c and Zen5c

[willow schooner]

I feel like you are quoting this from wiki articles haha

[molten flame]

not at all

it's common knowledge that Intel got rid of HT for efficiency, since E-cores are better in terms of PPW

[willow schooner]

Even Pat G himself said they needed to disable HT on arrow lake due to architecxture deficiencies, and issues getting the scheduling to work on non monolithic dies

Efficiency gains are a pure bi-product of that disabling. Dont believe everythign you read on the internet. That efficiency thing is pure marketting spin

sure its true, but its not why HT was disabled

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/vesa-announces-displayhdr-true-black-1000-and-clearmr-21000-specs-for-premium-oled-monitors-msi-gigabyte-and-lg-on-board

[ivory creek]

several sites list the samsung odyssey g6 and g8 oled as trueblack 400 certified but they didnt seem to get it. i took for granted mine was but apparently not

[lost cargo]

Imagine on top of Nvidia’s RTX raytracing

[midnight crypt]

More bogus certifications

Epic

[dry pike]

Samsung makes soooo many versions of "the same monitors" to confuse customers on purpose. It's a scumbag tactic but sadly its common for monitor manufacturers

[ivory creek]

i think they were advertised to get the certifications before release, but then maybe they didnt meet the requirements?

[dry pike]

Could be. Doesn't change the fact that buying a monitor is a very consumer unfriendly thing to do though.

[ivory creek]

it got amazing picture and popping hdr tho so im not really complaining that it doesnt have an official stamp

[terse glade]

I really love my samsung tv, never had any complaints

[ivory creek]

yeah theyre great

[terse glade]

My 5 year old ultrawide also works like a charm

[ivory creek]

my samsung tv is only qled tho , not oled

[terse glade]

Same :')

Im not that crazy over every detail so oled would be a bit overkill for me right now while it's still very expensive

[burnt coyote]

i gave in a brought a 27 inch curved monitor

180hz hdr

[terse glade]

Odyssey g5?

[burnt coyote]

$150 aud

nah acer

[terse glade]

Ah cool

150 aud sounds reasonable

Is it 1440p or 1080p

[ivory creek]

i just read that lg is going to release an ultrawide monitor that u can angle yourself. from being flat to having a curve

[burnt coyote]

1080p

[terse glade]

I want 1080p as a second monitor for games where fps matter but idk if i can go back to 1080p

[terse glade]

Sounds stupid lol

Its a gimmick

[burnt coyote]

i already have a 180hz 1080p monitor but i couldnt resist getting a curved one for so cheap

[terse glade]

Prone to failure

[terse glade]

Its definitely more immersive

[ivory creek]

but yeah oled monitors are still very expensive, i think my new oled monitor was like 600 euro , and according to samsung that was 50% off

lol

[burnt coyote]

i think shooters will be better on a curved monitor

[terse glade]

600euro for oled monitor is a banger price

[burnt coyote]

i dont really know never had one before

[willow schooner]

Depends on the panel tbh. 600 can be a good, or a bad price. I paid 699 for my Alienware AW2725DF for example.

[terse glade]

While i had a curved monitor it reduced eye fatigue for me. Sadly had to send back because dead Pixel

[ivory creek]

mine is a qd oled, idk the rest

360hz 1440p

[willow schooner]

QD OLED 3rd gen is good regardless of the maker tbh.

[terse glade]

Im thinking to get a curved monitor as main monitor and my UW as my sim race Monitor

Ofc im thinking about 4k as well but then I have upgrade gpu and it will escalate

[molten flame]

I'll get double 4K super ultrawide and use my 4070 to power it

[brave sundial]

Those have existed for quite some time now

[ivory creek]

This is a new tho, an oled with double frequenzy modes that let you use a lower rez but have your hz increased if you want to

[ivory creek]

i cant use my samsung s24 to charge my galaxy smart watch 7, with wireless touch charging. the watch say that the charging device is unsufficient or whatever. its supposed to work. this is a scam

i should be able to place my watch on my phone and have it charge my watch

[pale quartz]

no it's explicitly not supported on the watch 7

[ivory creek]

wat

thats a bummer

but thanks for updating

[ivory creek]

thanks

my watch keep telling me that an action i must take is to sleep more

but i slept for 6 hours

its abit annoying

[cursive marten]

just sleep more. sleep for 12 hours.

[ivory creek]

lol

[cursive marten]

sleep forever. never wake up. >:I

[pale quartz]

6 hours isn't enough

[ivory creek]

wow

[pale quartz]

you need minimum 8 lol

[cursive marten]

yeah adults need 8 hours

which the modern world really hates giving people that much time

[cursive marten]

btw that was a joke

[ivory creek]

totalfps might ban you for it tho(not that i reported it)

i spoke about drinking alcohol and they removed my message

[cursive marten]

well, we'll see i guess

[ivory creek]

how is your eye tho?

[cursive marten]

it's the same.

the Primary Care place i'm going to talked about referring me to an optimologist to look at it, but that might take a while.

Because I still need to be associated with them, and also I need to get health insurance.

[ivory creek]

i truly hope everything sorts out for you man, must be hard

[cursive marten]

it's annoying but i'll be fine

[toxic wigeon]

I get 5 hours of sleep on a work night.

[ivory creek]

if u had my watch, it would buzz you to sleep more

[molten flame]

I rarely can sleep more than 5-6 hours

[brave sundial]

6 hours is bad

9-10 is good

[lost cargo]

I average 4 hrs no matter how long I been up for

[lost cargo]

6-8 hours is good, less than 6 and more than 8 is bad

[ivory creek]

There are old articles on samsungs site that claim the odyssey oled g6 and g8 have vesa trueblack 400 certification even tho they dont. They really should take those down or atleast edit them

[inland pumice]

tekh

[ivory creek]

great, the joystick on the back of my new samsung monitor just fell off and ive read that several people have had this issue

ive bearly tuched it

how can they have low quality plastic on an expensive monitor

this joystick functions as a powerbutton and controlling everything on the monitor. now its unusable

[dry pike]

Just Samsung things

[ivory creek]

been in que for the support chat for almost 40 minutes and ive only moved 2 places

its going to take hours to reach them

[terse glade]

Ah man this sucks

[terse glade]

Try tomorrow i think today all have free

[ivory creek]

yeah i closed the chat

it didnt move at all for an hour after that

[brave sundial]

This is why the traditional row of buttons under the monitor are better

But wow that really is cheaply built

[ivory creek]

yeah i just read that someone had it fall off after just 3 days

they better replace it with some metal stick or something that will last

[willow schooner]

They wont repair it, they will just RMA your whole unit and give you a different, or refurbished one

[ivory creek]

hm

i wont accept a refurbished one, but we'll see

samsungs site claim to have technicians that can come over to your place for repair or service

[willow schooner]

Interesting. is the control part its own module? Which piece exactly broke?

[ivory creek]

they call it a jog button. its like a tiny joystick on the back of the monitor that u controll the osd with and also start turn off the monitor. someone on youtube manage to replace it in less than 5 minutes but im not experienced enough to be doing something like that on my own

[dry pike]

It's january 1st

[ivory creek]

they seem to be having supports online tho, the phoneline is closed but the chat is open

even if its extremely slow

but yeah its january 1st, im aware of that

[digital hill]

You mean new years

[dry pike]

No I don't

[coarse nimbus]

you think the support people they farmed out that service to care what day it is?

[dry pike]

I'm saying the chance to get someone who can tell you more than to turn it off and then on again is very little

[molten flame]

https://x.com/TechEpiphanyYT/status/1874486964248076537

TechEpiphany (@TechEpiphanyYT) on X

🔥 CPU Retail Sales December '24 (amazon US) 🇺🇸

ℹ️ Units
AMD: 63,100 (76.58%)
Intel: 19,300 (23.42%)

ℹ️ Revenue
AMD: $16,728,938.50
Intel: $4,687,812.00

ℹ️ ASP
AMD: $265
Intel: $242

Twitter · Jan 1, 2025, 4:04 PM

USA Amazon CPU sales for December

[molten flame]

RTX 5060 Laptop GPU has over 37% more CUDA cores than the 4060 Laptop (3072 vs 4480 CUDA) and is only ~33% faster in 3Dmark, suggesting the new architecture isn't much better

RTX 4000 series was extremely efficient but now with the 5000 series, they are brute forcing performance with more cores and higher power draw

[dry pike]

Only 8GB of memory if leaks are to be believed

[molten flame]

yes, 128-bit GDDR7

tbh 128-bit G7 should be comparable to 192-bit G6 in bandwidth

[dry pike]

If Intel could get their GPUs a bit down in power usage during idle they would actually be better maybe

[sleek wraith]

@pale quartz hey man sorry for the ping. How do you feel about the ryzen 7 8700f?

[pale quartz]

terrible processor has barely any cache

[sleek wraith]

What would be a better fit to pair with a 4060 ti?

[pale quartz]

5600x/7600x

[sleek wraith]

Thanks man. Goat per usual

[terse glade]

Looks dope

[quick locust]

No hardware came out this year

What a dry spell

[pale quartz]

no worries

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-introduces-worlds-first-27-inch-qd-oled-4k-240hz-gaming-monitor-with-displayport-2-1a

[brave sundial]

Well yeah that's how specs and certifications go

We have Wi-Fi 8 coming up, WiFi 6 is only now getting wider adoption

[rotund dirge]

Yo anybody know where can i receive help or support with my broken bf1? The gameplay is okay, but when in lobby, my images go black. Like all of them, they just turn completly black. Ive tried reinstalling the game, did all the tutorials on yt, nothing help. Dont even tell me to update drivers because ive done it several times. Anybody know where can i go and someone will actually help me? Dice/EA dont care.

[pale quartz]

you can't get support here and neither in this channel, you can contact EA support but that's about it

[rotund dirge]

they shit on people like me

received no help

[pale quartz]

you won't be able to get any here either, read the channel description

[small zinc]

Let's start with your GPU. What do you have?

[brave sundial]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/1hrtaeo/_/

The comments lmao

[small zinc]

GT 1030 running BF 2042?

😛

[rotund dirge]

rtx 4070 super

[ivory creek]

i wonder when 5070ti will be released, will it be 2.5 months after the xx90 like that last time or sooner?

3090 to 5070ti should be a decent upgrade

[dry pike]

Wouldn't the downgrade in memory size make that a somewhat dangerous upgrade?

[ivory creek]

from 24 to 16? i think most games run fine with 16 in 1440p

[dry pike]

Sure, but I would still want to benchmarks. I'm in a somewhat similar position.

[molten flame]

what's sad is that power consumption will probably be similar

5070Ti should be faster than 4080 Super and have better updated features like DLSS4

[sleek wraith]

So the 50 series is actually real? Kinda insane

Is the ryzen 7 9700x worth buying? I'm kinda torn.between the rysen 7 7700x and the 9700x

[tall rune]

Type 1080ti in 2024 on yt

Epz 320 is a great earphone too

Am an audiophile

Actually I didn't game since almost a decade.. my favourite is bc2

[sleek wraith]

I'm watching it right now. I don't have a 1080ti. I got a 4070 ti super

[tall rune]

Oh cpus,my dumbass

Look for last gen ones on the cheap

[sleek wraith]

Yeah bro it's all good. I was wondering because I gave my little brother my 4060 ti and he has a shit cpu so I was tryna find a good 8 core cpu but I wanted to know due to the 7700x and 9700x being both on sale for around 319 both

[tall rune]

Ohh, cool

[brave sundial]

I mean it would be more insane if it wasn't

Free money for Nvidia

https://tenor.com/view/hay-money-sleep-gif-14635828

[dry pike]

It's only so much better that Nvidia think it will be just about convincing enough for you to feel fomo and buy them

no reason to make them too good

[brave sundial]

Neural Processing will be the talking point obviously

That's what they're working on for the 50 series right?

Oh yeah neural rendering

[dry pike]

Add 4-8GB memory, support of yet another non-retroactively supported DLSS version and assisting tech, slight performance boost, increase price, call it a day

[brave sundial]

Hey, they have standards now, it's 8GB minimum, nothing lower

you should be grateful

Jensen should walk up on stage and say that apple quote on ram in their macbooks but for VRAM on Nvidia cards

https://www.macworld.com/article/2130974/bob-borchers-defends-8gb-ram-macbook-pro-analogous-to-16gb-pc.html

[dry pike]

I'm not, I'm just a gamer being taken advantage of by companies abusing monopolies and manipulated patentlaw

[sleek wraith]

Well the 50 series I thought was a joke. I mean look at exactly how power the 4090 is

[brave sundial]

"8GB VRAM on an RTX50 series card is analogous to 16GB VRAM on an AMD card"

[dry pike]

The fact that the top of the line, overpriced card is what you reference, just means Nvidia has won 😄

[sleek wraith]

Well no because I haven't bought a 4090 or even a 4080. The reason I mentioned it is because the 4090 outperforms everything of course as it should but it also has a ton of features I feel like aren't even nessacary. Like tbh a 4090 in csgo would be stupid overkill. I don't even need 600 fps Ina game like that. My point is the 40 series just came out. Pushing the next series is crazy

[dry pike]

Previous cards too good so they release new tech which the old cards don't have so people get fomo and buy the new cards anyway.

[sleek wraith]

Yeah I agree. That's why I cited the 4090. You literally would be great with a 3090. The 4090 is overkill but imagine a 5090. It's almost like iphone where every new phone just has a slightly better camera

[coarse nimbus]

they hated jensen for telling the truth

[dry pike]

The 3000 series didn't get DLSS 3 frame generation, so that was already outdated with the 4000 series

[sleek wraith]

Ahhhhh makes sense then

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-reportedly-features-tdp-of-575w-rtx-5080-set-at-360w

TDP slightly under 600W lol

[prime jasper]

power grids are gonna get btfo

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/powercolor-shares-a-closer-look-at-the-radeon-rx-9070-xt-red-devil

[toxic wigeon]

I wonder if people start emulating the switch 2 if it means that NVIDIA cards can use advantages like DLSS from those games through it.

Would that mean it's just outright incompatible with AMD cards?

[molten flame]

not emulators lol

the current emulators for the Switch do prefer Nvidia GPUs likely because of CUDA

[toxic wigeon]

I just want my DLAA man.

[terse glade]

I will entirely skip this gen and get the switch 2 this year if its good and a good pokemon game is about to release

[pale quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dF_xJytE7g

[small zinc]

You know damn well, Nvidia going to release a stupid overpriced 5090 first so Nvidia can try to milk every dollar out of it they can before the 1% or less stop purchasing it. And then when it becomes completely irrelevant, is when they'll release their bread and butter GPU's.

[pale quartz]

February/march roughly

[small zinc]

So the keynote should be Monday. Finally might get ACTUAL news regarding Blackwell.

Otherwise all speculation again

But don't worry. According to Deco. xx90 GPU's aren't targeted at gamers. Only professional desktop compute, animators, and CAD applications are who buy those.

[pale quartz]

right lol

[small zinc]

Your words. Not mine. 😛

[pale quartz]

sure

[small zinc]

12/29/2024 at 1531 pm. I don't have permissions to paste screenshots.

[toxic wigeon]

Essentially old CPU on B580 not good.

[pale quartz]

much worse than that

Minecraft and other titles have up to half of the Radeon/NV equivalent for performance

[willow schooner]

Isn't it also terrible when rebar is off or not available? Or is that covered in this video?

[pale quartz]

for the video Steve tests with rebar on, BMG/arc architecture is more or less built to require rebar so if you switch it off performance will dive off a cliff

performance regressions are like 30% on arc with rebar off

[willow schooner]

I wonder wil NV invest more in rebar related optimizations. A lot of games still are not whitelisted for it to do anything

[molten flame]

[candid flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16gHC1AQNJY&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F

Linus cherry-picking and taking no responsibilities for not calling out honey when he knew for years they were ripping people off

[coarse nimbus]

sounds like its not even worth watching that clip if thats the summary

did he address going with another company... doing the exact same thing?

[candid flame]

nah

[coarse nimbus]

im shocked

i loved that part of the original video "yeah we here at lmg found out they were stealing from us... but decided to not use this massive platform and earned trust from the community to put the company on blast"

[brave sundial]

This and the cooler/fan situation and others at the time etc. has made me have enough of him

He still deflects blame like he's still in his NCIX days

"mistakes are to be made guys! Just a tiny group of like 5 🥺"

[coarse nimbus]

Oops mistakes happen, sorry we bullied you so hard ms female employee and made you quit the job

[molten flame]

[dry pike]

That's quite the chart

[toxic wigeon]

Actual ancient cards.

Jesus christ.

The fuck is a Matrox Parhelia.

@pale quartz Hey dude do you think 256 MBS of VRAM is good enough.

[pale quartz]

lol

you'd be lucky to render a video on that

[toxic wigeon]

Hahaha

I can even give it 4 gigs of VRAM.

Which I don't think was even possible.

[toxic wigeon]

I got so close yet so far.

[digital hill]

I believe that is the best pci x card

for graphics

Used in servers before pci e was invented

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-set-to-launch-ryzen-9-9955hx3d-flagship-mobile-cpu-with-3d-v-cache

[toxic wigeon]

Apparently the 5090 is gonna be revealed soon?

[pale quartz]

today

[molten flame]

In the evening

[toxic wigeon]

Ohhh yeah

[pale quartz]

nope lol

it launched in sep 2022

[toxic wigeon]

Oh 16:30 from now.

[quick locust]

5090 usd

[pale quartz]

https://x.com/VideoCardz/status/1876223101932830939?s=19 well that's it fsr is now dead

VideoCardz.com (@VideoCardz) on X

AMD announces FSR4, available “only on Radeon RX 9070 series”
https://t.co/699JZVMv3Q

Twitter · Jan 6, 2025, 11:03 AM

[midnight crypt]

It has always been dead

stillborn

[toxic wigeon]

Pfft I wasn't thinking about the power supply for when I get the 5090 and almost searched up "RM850X Pin layout"

Nah dude I'm gonna need a 1K supply.

@pale quartz The 5090 will be like the 4090 with its 12 pin connectors yeah? What Power supply do you use?

[midnight crypt]

Get a 1500w psu

[toxic wigeon]

Hah I was thinking 1200.

But I remember something along the lines of it consuming no more than what the 4090 did because of its pins.

[pale quartz]

any atx 3 power supply is fine

it uses the 12x6 connector, nothing changes on the PSU front, so its still the 12vph for you

[toxic wigeon]

Oh yeah

Ever since that gigabyte scuffle thing I'm kinda concerned getting the wrong one haha

Even though it shouldn't happen as long as I don't cheap out.

[pale quartz]

if youre wanting one just be reference ive got the Asus ROG Strix Aura Edition 1000W gold edition, works flawlessly

[toxic wigeon]

Ohhhh yeah

I was thinking of a Corsair Rm1000x.

Thank you though.

[pale quartz]

nada, it wont work, its not atx 3

2.4

[toxic wigeon]

OH

Right right

[molten flame]

Should at least support 7000 series too imo

Maybe the fake AI hardware in RDNA3 can't handle doing FSR4 workload

[pale quartz]

most likely

fsr is now as good as dead

[molten flame]

only like a few hundred people will own 9070 XT

4070 will run circles around it in AI and upscaling tech

RDNA4 ray-tracing is decent but still not on the same level as RTX 40 series

[midnight crypt]

It does have a chance if the price to performance ratio isn't terrible

[small zinc]

Accurate.

ATX3 power supplies are gimmicky

Nice to have, not necessary.

But as far as power supplies, I wouldn't buy anything other than Superflower, Seasonic, or Corsair (which are made by Seasonic anyway).

[quick locust]

Me with a 2013 psu hmm

[molten flame]

2017 CPU and motherboard as well

[quick locust]

ATX 3.0? More like 0.3

[brave sundial]

💀 they think they're Nvidia

[pale quartz]

they say its "built exclusively" for rdna4 so 0 chance of backporting

[brave sundial]

[molten flame]

waiting for UDNA...

https://videocardz.com/newz/hdmi-2-2-to-offer-up-to-96gbps-bandwidth#disqus_thread

won't find 96 Gbps cables longer than 6.5 feet when HDMI 2.2 becomes available

[brave sundial]

this is why w-hdmi needs to return

[molten flame]

4K 480Hz soon

[turbid verge]

meanwhile displayport being king for monitors with high refresh rates

[brave sundial]

and it's royalty-free

displayport for TVs when

I know most devices designed to work with them use hdmi too so it's ridiculous, but come on, instead of having like 6 HDMI, give us 5HDMI with 1DP atleast

[dry pike]

Their naming schemes are as horrible as ever

[brave sundial]

Not as bad as USB-C

[dry pike]

Still impossible for regular people to figure out what cable can fully utilize what port.
Imagine if the cables were just HDMI 96 cables going into HDMI 96 supported ports.

[pale quartz]

hahahaha

amd removed the gpu segment from their presentation

[toxic wigeon]

Too early to say that don't you think?

[pale quartz]

i have seen the entire presentation

[brave sundial]

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/6/24337117/microsoft-bing-search-results-google-design-trick

[pale quartz]

the long and short of it is its ass, fsr4 exclusivity is real, wont be backported, and they only match up to a 4070ti

they have a "ai summary" feature for radeon

[toxic wigeon]

Oh wow

[coarse nimbus]

the verge

[sleek wraith]

Hey can anyone help me out with obs. Why does bf2042 show up in the top left of my obs screen instead of full

[coarse nimbus]

in the uhh preview window in the obs program there is a resizable window you can drag around iirc? is that like full screen

[sleek wraith]

I can send you a picture if you want

If I load other games it's already full screen but for 2042 it's not

[coarse nimbus]

i havent used obs in some years now but i remember being able to resize the window where to capture

but if its doing other games fine

[sleek wraith]

Yeah it's just odd I'll try recording and see what happened

[quick locust]

gotta copy nvidias naming scheme

[sleek wraith]

I fixed it. For some reason if you open obs while in the game it half screens then when you tab back to the game it full screens

[toxic wigeon]

Hmm yes make things more confusing.

[quick locust]

would be kinda funny if intel released a 9070xt competitor

[pale quartz]

theres the part they didnt show lol

[quick locust]

AMD related questions

ok

[dry pike]

With Nvidia abusing their monopoly like situation as much as they are, I'm not even gonna be mad about that.

[toxic wigeon]

The image part pisses me off because they could teach someone to learn game dev or some shit.

I know it isn't so simple but you know.

[small zinc]

As if we have a need for HDMI 2.2

lmao

Barely using HDMI 2.1....

[pale quartz]

it has 16gb

there you go lol specs revealed

[quick locust]

So there's
Ryzen 9000 mobile (H, HX, HX3D)
Ryzen AI MAX and AI MAX+
Ryzen AI 300
Ryzen Z2 (3 of them)
Ryzen 200 series

[small zinc]

Eh....Is anyone actually interested in the 9070 or 9060xt?

We all know we're here for one GPU.....5090

lol

[cursive marten]

i mean, why should i care about the 5090, it's gonna be too damn expensive.

[small zinc]

WE also know that the claimed 575 watt TDP is an overexaggeration when the 4090 never came close to 450 watts

So nobody ACTUALLY cares about that either....What we do all care about is price, and how scalped are they going to be again.

[cursive marten]

Price: probably over a thousand dollars
How scalped are they going to be: yes

[brave sundial]

Will this all be done locally though?

[pale quartz]

no lol

[brave sundial]

thought so

No more xps?

[cursive marten]

nope, XPS is rip apparently

because they're just going all in on AI PC's.

who the fuck are buying those anyway

like, last i heard they weren't really selling. like at all.