technology

[woeful gulch]

this one

[brave sundial]

Those are games made years ago lol

[lost cargo]

Least amount of fps you should be focusing on is 60 fps. More then 60fps is good

[woeful gulch]

i mean i wont be able to play all the games in my lifetime but it sure made me able to play games made in recent years

im gonna buy another 8gb 3200 ram and see if i can run bf2042 if i still cant run it on 40-50 fps oh well

[midnight crypt]

Make sure it's the same ram

[woeful gulch]

wait wdym same ram, i thought u will just look at its MT/s

and also the ddr thing mine is ddr4

[vital rose]

Just buy a kit of 2x8 ddr4 ram, if you want I can link you a good kit

[toxic wigeon]

You need 16 gigs and a bit of a better processor.

[vital rose]

This just now connected this is a laptop we are talking about

[molten flame]

maybe Intel wants to keep losing money

[prisma wedge]

hey

do you have DDR4 or DDR5?

nvm you have DDR4 rip

[midnight sequoia]

I’m thinking of buying a sennheiser headphone and a separate mod mic

But I always had mics built into my gaming headsets

However many people on Reddit swear by sennheiser and (although most recommendations are open back) I need closed back headphones but I also want a good quality mic

I need it to work with both ps and Xbox cos I don’t game on pc

[toxic wigeon]

Hey what's the difference buying phones in US and EU?

I bought my fold 6 in the EU and it's... much quicker than my fold 5 even though it has the same stuff as my 5 on it.

I know the processor is better.

But this is significantly smoother.

[pale quartz]

EU variants use the exynos variant, all the galaxy Z Fold 6 variants use snapdragon

[brave sundial]

Changing with the s25 though it seems

[toxic wigeon]

I meant not hardware wise.

I don't feel it's just hardware.

[brave sundial]

Snapdragon for everyone

[toxic wigeon]

Is there less bloat or some shit?

[brave sundial]

I mean I guess it would depend if you're buying your phones unlocked or not

Usually carriers would put some bloat there preinstalled, do they still do? Idk, haven't used a carrier phone in ages

[brave sundial]

Reddit are always going to swear off the most enthusiast and expensive option ever

Suggest something else and they'll berate you like you're uncultured

[toxic wigeon]

Wait so

[toxic wigeon]

Is the Fold 5 from Australia an Exynos variant?

Keep in mind I'm super lost.

[molten flame]

I can't recommend Samsung phone with Exynos chipset, very buggy and the Wi-Fi adapter is hardly responsive to nearby networks

[brave sundial]

Z Fold/Flip for everyone is SD

For the S line flagships they use SD usually only in the US and Exynos for everyone else

[toxic wigeon]

My bad. I thought Deco was talking about the fold flip series since I explicitly mentioned it.

[pale quartz]

oh no, not those

the main galaxy line

[toxic wigeon]

So really. What's the difference between AUS and EU then for the fold series?

Or is the fold 6 really that "big" of an upgrade over the 5.

[molten flame]

ever since I got this Galaxy A55 as a work phone, I have to come in 5 minutes earlier than usual just so the phone has time to finally connect to the Wi-Fi

[brave sundial]

Well, we got the report that they get awful yields with Exynos so I guess they might quit with using them on the S Line for good

[pale quartz]

nothing substantive, main differences are the cameras

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidias-data-center-blackwell-gpus-reportedly-overheat-require-rack-redesigns-and-cause-delays-for-customers

not good

[pale quartz]

nothing to do with the cards themselves

[molten flame]

only happens with the high-capacity server racks

[midnight sequoia]

iPhone > everything else

[molten flame]

Apple threatens the entire industry with their M4

[toxic wigeon]

Oh that's a shame.

Than again I'm not surprised considering yearly releases haha.

[pale quartz]

the fold se is the actual upgrade, but its not available worldwide (possibly yet)

whether they release it worldwide who knows

[turbid verge]

most likely version that need to have specific hardware or software features that by law its required in those regions

I know the US iphone and the EU iphones have hardware differences like the sim tray

EU has a regulation where they need physical Sim slot (And if they want eSim too), while in teh US there's no regulation on it so they are all eSim

[toxic wigeon]

Wait the what?

What's the se what.

[turbid verge]

https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_z_fold_special-13452.php

[brave sundial]

The south Korea exclusive phone I think

They also made a flip FE(fan edition) I think

[turbid verge]

nothign new

some companies make phone version for their domestic market

same thing happens a lot in Japan with Sony phones

and China

[toxic wigeon]

Oh that's cool.

If you ever got one that'd be special.

[turbid verge]

its like some watches I want

and they only exist in Japan : (

because they're produced for the domestic market only

[brave sundial]

China gets all the cool exclusive phones

[turbid verge]

guess who doesnt contribute to their economy. Me

their trifold phone is huge scam if you ask me

[brave sundial]

but I mean, the Huawei tri-fold was a flop anyways

[toxic wigeon]

Oh that Huawei triple fold.

It's cool but it's not practical.

[turbid verge]

shit is a cool gimmick but turns to a total 0 in terms of durability and repairability

[toxic wigeon]

Shits almost 10K here.

[turbid verge]

good piece of junk for a fold

rather have a fold or a flip

[brave sundial]

The W24 fold is pretty cool though

[toxic wigeon]

Crazy prices.

[turbid verge]

thats a lot in dollaridoos

[toxic wigeon]

You can buy a computer and a fucking regular ass fold with that money.

[turbid verge]

you can buy a steam deck, a phone and a computer

lol

[brave sundial]

I think the original rrp cost in China is $2500 usd, still too much

[toxic wigeon]

In USD you can get a lot more with that idea.

[brave sundial]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-W24-and-W24-Flip-debut-with-1-TB-of-storage-and-premium-ceramic-back-designs.751421.0.html

they do look pretty nice ngl

They make all these luxury models exclusive to China as over there it's a cultural kind of thing to gift people phones on christmas or Chinese new year

I'm assuming it's why all the Chinese oems launch new flagships exclusively in December or January

[prime jasper]

my god. i was just thinking yesterday "I'm using this iphone 14 until it dies"

$2337

for a phone 😦

[midnight crypt]

its barely worth half that

[digital hill]

It is

Older iphones are cheaper than that, and still are supported

[prime jasper]

I think there may have been a time in my life where I would be excited about a folding screen. I get nervous now if my keys share a pocket with my phone. I can't imagine something that folds and costs more than my pc rattling around with an unfortunate few specks of dirt and sand that happened to end up in my pocket 😐

[ivory creek]

btw asus released their bios for their b550 motherboards that fixed the sinkclose vulnerbility not too long ago. ages after everyone else but better late than never i guess

[vital rose]

Reminds me of MSI and 0x12b

I still tweak so voltage will never go that high but MSI handled 0x12b horridly for their Z790 Pro boards

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/nvidia-unveils-gb200-nvl4-four-blackwell-gpus-two-grace-cpus-1-7tb-combined-memory-and-5400w-of-power

[toxic wigeon]

They're good against particles but I understand what you mean. Really as someone who has one and is ULTRA careful I think they're worth it.

[stray needle]

Nvidia filter, for or against ❓️

I hear it causes higher input latency/lag

[pale quartz]

if this is reshade, you cant use it as its blocked by ea anticheat, if its freestyle it has a minimal impact on latency, unless youve got high end hardware youre not maxing the game anywhere enough to notice a few additional frames of latency

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/284794210974957569/1308391239090962432/GcmNx1hXQAAPdvd.jpg?ex=673dc5cc&is=673c744c&hm=6fb9b4ad4e558951a5ddd5feb7d68606fffadcb787560bb6c228aa7b92189c10&=&format=webp&width=551&height=671

good example

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9000-udna-gpus-reportedly-enter-mass-production-in-q2-2026-udna-also-for-playstation-6

just little over a year after RDNA4

hints at PS6 launch in 2026/2027

[idle dust]

crazy.

this generation is already 5 years old.

almost.

WTF

[midnight crypt]

and there's still a fuckton of people on ps4 and xbone

[lost cargo]

Next gen Xbox will be around that time. Xbox had a head start of next gen consoles cuz they didn’t worry about a refresh

[digital hill]

In some areas it’s faster then their internet

One test actually had data transfer from both where the bird was faster to transfer data from usb versus downloading it

[modern gull]

Wonder what pc equivalent specs the next gen consoles will have tbh 🤔

Thinking maybe like rtx 4080 or 5080 if same as current gen. PS5 have like rtx 2080 performance excluding ray tracing, and that gpu was 2 years old at ps5 release. Maybe stupid thinking like that but could be we see something like that again

[coarse nimbus]

doesnt matter, will still be the inferior platform

[modern gull]

For the sake of next gen and devs, i hope they wont make another series s like console

[coarse nimbus]

what would that be, mid af and a pain to optimize for?

[modern gull]

Something like that 😛

[digital hill]

The new Xbox series s 2

But seriousness I cannot predict there new console name as that is how off Microsoft went

[coarse nimbus]

xbox-powered by intel

[lost cargo]

3080 performance

[lost cargo]

I don’t think they will this time

[modern gull]

Think they realized it was big mistake even the idea was kind of good. If there was only one console I am sure many still would buy but would take more time I guess

[modern gull]

Imagine

[lost cargo]

[lost cargo]

It’s great to push people to new gen. But sucks on their end for game developments.
But at the same time. I saw a vid somewhere, some dev said series S can accomplish stability and performance for any game. Just needs more testing and development time for it.
Something like that, I believe it was a stalker 2 dev

[modern gull]

Not everyone has deep enough pockets to milk performance out of the series s though. I just know the console is horrible to work with from multiple devs statements. We'll see what happens next time. I am also curious to see if the Xbox is stronger than playstation again.

Their top model obviously

[lost cargo]

Comparison for series S. Yea. Series X had a performance lead for a long time till ps5 pro dropped

Series X is about 15% better than PS5. But 15% slower than PS5 pro. PS5 pro can be faster if a cpu upgrade

[modern gull]

Ps pro only 15% better? Well, maybe better than that it turns into next gen

[lost cargo]

I feel like next gen will be like a 30-45% increase from ps5 pro

But ob won’t beat pc standards

[modern gull]

We'll see. They gotta think many years ahead

[lost cargo]

2-3 years

More like 1-2 years from now

I think 2026/2027

[crisp lance]

mAOW

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-to-continue-geforce-rtx-4050-laptop-gpu-supply-as-rtx-5050-targets-higher-price-tier-lenovo-pm-claims

RTX 5050 laptops are a higher price tier than RTX 4050 laptops so the 4050 isn't going away anytime soon

[wicked needle]

I don't like that 4050

[brave sundial]

Don't worry, nobody does

[toxic wigeon]

FUCK ME

[toxic wigeon]

I wanted to annoy you. Genuinely. What do I get out of the 9800x3d versus the 5800 asides from consistent clock speeds?

[pale quartz]

about 25-30% higher ipc

[toxic wigeon]

Ohhhh

[pale quartz]

etc

@toxic wigeon

[toxic wigeon]

I might have to get a new fan it depends. I plan on giving my old mobo to my sister and shit.

[pale quartz]

the cooler may already have a am5 offset mount, check compatibility

[toxic wigeon]

I want to stress the fan part later.

Ah fuck it

I don't want to spend more money than I have to.

[pale quartz]

stock for it will return in around january, demand is off the charts

overclockers uk had 12000 backorders within the first day of going live

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah it's on sale here. I don't need it now as I'm not in a rush but if you're gonna get it you may as well get it now you know.

Not on sale I mean it's on stock.

[pale quartz]

wont be in stock for very long lmao

[toxic wigeon]

I know.

[toxic wigeon]

Which is why I'm a bit skittish.

[pale quartz]

eh if youre willing to wait till january the 9950x3d will come out then

[toxic wigeon]

Oh I'm not the most interested in that.

I just came home from family and had to buy a phone while on holiday so it's like fuck. If I get this I'll be a little too close to out of funds!

Family? I mean vacation LOL

I'm looking at the deepcool assassin IV for a more serious fan.

Or the peerless assassin.

[pale quartz]

assassin 4 is hard to beat for its price

very good fan

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah it's an absolute chunker.

OH

The assassin IV is on sale.

[pale quartz]

may aswell pick it up

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah it's not a bad thing to go for.

What would B650 M - P mean?

Micro - Prime?

I'll give context.

[pale quartz]

just marketing, b650 is the platform, p means prime

[toxic wigeon]

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/motherboards/amd-socket-am5/106138-pro-b650m-p

Oh I know what b650 is.

[toxic wigeon]

M means micro yeah? Looks like a small motherboard!

[pale quartz]

yeah m-atx specifically

[toxic wigeon]

Cool cool.

I don't want to buy this hardware and regret it.

[brave sundial]

Will you get the 9950x3d when it drops?

[pale quartz]

nope

done with multi ccd shenanigans

why i got this to replace the 7950

[toxic wigeon]

Funny enough that's why my mate went for the 9800

Is it really impossible to do more than 8 cores on a single CCD?

[brave sundial]

12,000

[toxic wigeon]

It'd be cool if there was a gen where there was no increase in power but they managed to fit in 10 cores into a single CCD.

Thank fuck for afterpay. Jesus christ.

[pale quartz]

yes because those cores are unified

the problem with the 7950 is it has a cache imbalance meaning it cant cross talk

[toxic wigeon]

Is G.skill trident RAM good by the way?

I see people going ofr it without thought.

[pale quartz]

yes, but the kit wont matter all that much with the 9800x3d

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah true but I remember you saying something about Corsair ram and the fact that I nearly got it.

[pale quartz]

its specifically the veangance line that you want to avoid at all costs

its funny seeing flight simulator totally max the vram of a 4080

[toxic wigeon]

Expected?

[pale quartz]

dlaa with frame gen and max settings puts it to its knees

[toxic wigeon]

DLAA

Yeah that'd do it.

[pale quartz]

nope, it's the LOD settings in the game

DLAA in it runs quite well

[toxic wigeon]

Truth be told that thing that is scaring me the most is updating my motherboards BIOS. I wonder if I fuck up formatting the usb and try to update the bios could I brick that.

I understand not to be a worry wart but it's the one thing that has me concerned the most. @pale quartz

I can trust myself to install hardware physically but that? Fuck that.

[pale quartz]

you have usb flashback, its pretty hard to get wrong, it just wont read if its in the wrong format

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah i was thinking.

Hey if it doesn't work it won't work and won't go further.

[molten flame]

https://www.techradar.com/pro/microsoft-convinced-amd-and-nvidia-to-build-a-cpu-with-extraordinary-features-but-it-will-never-go-on-sale-4th-gen-9v64h-has-88-cores-and-uses-infiniband-technology

[cursive marten]

🤔

that sounds like a good way to get google engineers showing up at your door to beat the fuck out of you

[pale quartz]

nah

it's just wildly inefficient, impractical and something you'd never do because bandwidth will never get close to RAM in terms of throughput

and it'd disappear as soon as your internet connection drops

[brave sundial]

nah Google doesn't care when I abuse the unlimited photo backup in Google photos by spoofing my phone fingerprint in the app

[ivory creek]

So i just ordered the samsung odyssey g6 oled pc monitor, it was 45% off so i thought why not

Ive been staying away from oled cuz ive been afraid of burn ins

Hope i wont regret it

[digital hill]

https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/mini-pcs/microsoft-built-a-pc-that-cant-run-local-apps-windows-365-link-starts-at-usd349-and-doesnt-come-with-storage

Now instead of owning a computer

You gotta rent your pc

[midnight crypt]

So a chromebook

[digital hill]

Nope even worse then a Chromebook

Chromebooks got storage even if small

This one is pure renting a computer

[pale quartz]

it's not a bad thing

this exists for enterprise users, not for regular users

[digital hill]

Ah

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-reportedly-features-8960-cuda-cores-and-300w-power-specs

300W for 5070Ti

you know a new architecture isn't a big improvement when they raise power limits at each segment

[lost cargo]

https://youtu.be/kO-oXXe7Yd0?si=rNW_gmUTHpqVFnXr

[willow schooner]

It has literally nothing to do with the architecture. As was shown with 40 series, they just give it as much power as they possibly can, to squeeze every ounce of performance and clock speed that they can out of these parts.

40 series being +150-175W extra for 5-8% more performance. 4090 could have been a 350W card and had negligible performance losses.

[terse glade]

im done with nvidia, i want to try 8800xt when it releases

[willow schooner]

Enjoy broken drivers every other release and bad software I guess.

[midnight crypt]

I'm enjoying it right now

[lunar wraith]

I'm too

[lost cargo]

I love RTX cards

[ivory creek]

I dont care for raytracing but dlss is really nice to have

So ye rtx cards are awesome

[lost cargo]

Raytracing is superior on Rtx cards. I agreed DLSS is nice to have. I like it over FSR personally

Rtx cards have good software overall. But price to performance is what gets everyone in general.

[ivory creek]

Btw ive been using my oled display a while now and in hdr highlights really pops even tho the nits aint that great, i take its from the infinite contrast to the perfect blacks. But im scared to just have it running my windows background with all the static icons

[midnight crypt]

All newer oled models have burn in mitigation

[ivory creek]

Ye, and i have 2 year warranty against burn ins

But still

[midnight crypt]

You shouldn't be worried

If you are just search up your monitor on RTings and see what they say

[lost cargo]

https://youtu.be/EVmkiu7CSRs?si=oYX9JL1-Qh5dNyPo

The comments tho

Sorry forgot to crop image

[midnight crypt]

Their coping is unreal

[lost cargo]

I like the comment saying
“Your right I’m getting the 5080”
And
“4090 isn’t fast enough”

[ivory creek]

Wasnt there a while where the xx70 cards were about as fast as the previous generations flagship

Wonder if that will be true again with 5000

So a 5070 being as fast as 4090

[lost cargo]

I wanna see how big increase, the 5090 will be next to 4090 tbh

[ivory creek]

I wonder when my samsung reward points will come in from my purchase, i read that sometimes it takes up to 30 days, then ill miss my oppertunity to use them during black friday

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-gb202-gpu-die-reportedly-measures-744-mm2-20-larger-than-ad102

[lost cargo]

Mmm 🤔

[pale quartz]

you're probably not aware but if you care about hdr at all then Radeon is not something you can buy

[midnight crypt]

What's the issue with HDR?

[pale quartz]

with Radeon GPUs specifically with freesync premium pro monitors there is a pipeline which uses its own HDR interaction making it a washed out mess

has existed for years, no you cant turn it off because you ask either

[midnight crypt]

So it's just an issue with certain monitors

[pale quartz]

any high end monitor

freesync is more or less universally supported now, it's not just "certain monitors"

you buy anything oled it'll have it, any high end IPS/VA etc

[midnight crypt]

Can't say it looks washed out for me

[pale quartz]

does your monitor support freesync premium pro?

[midnight crypt]

Afaik yes

[pale quartz]

you'd best find out

cause if it is the representation you're seeing isn't the actual HDR visualization the game is using

unless you own a Samsung monitor specifically which is unaffected, everything else is

[midnight crypt]

It sure does support it

Definitely not washed out though

[pale quartz]

it's still not the accurate HDR representation of what you're actually supposed to be seeing

[midnight crypt]

That's a very minor issue

[pale quartz]

if you want poorer HDR then sure ig ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[terse glade]

i didnt knew the HDR issue yet. altough i dont have a HDR monitor just yet its something i dont like to hear

[quick locust]

Me on TN with no free sync or HDR

[brave sundial]

Me on VA with hdr that looks like shit and basic freesync

[ivory creek]

Hdr looks great on both my 2k nits va qled panel and my 400 nits true black oled

[willow schooner]

I also mainly use the true black 400 nit mode on my screen, as it ha smore consistent brightness than the HDR 1000 modes.

[lost cargo]

My monitor have 1000 nit mode

[lost cargo]

My is VA panel with Gsync

[terse glade]

I don't even have hdr

[digital hill]

https://tenor.com/view/barney-tv-himym-wall-tv-gif-20112966

[small zinc]

Good thing Alienware OLED monitors use Samsung panels

[ivory creek]

are they better? i just bought a samsung odyssey oled g6 with a qd-oled panel

[small zinc]

Basically the same monitor

You’ve got a Higher refresh rate. Mine is a 34” 1440p at 175 hz.

[ivory creek]

i run my display at 240hz, isnt there degrading going on if i go full out 320hz

i want to remember that hdmi 2.1 only can do 240hz 1440p

i read that some people get problems when they run my display at max hz

with black flickering

cuz it really doesnt support it

lol

[midnight crypt]

Probably VRR causing flickering

[small zinc]

I’ve never personally owned that high of a refresh rate as I’ve personally found it unnecessary. A lot of research suggests that even though the human eye itself doesnt have any limitation on how fast we can see. “Frames per second” isn’t possible in real life as it is basically still images happening in real time, but the photoreceptors in our eyes as it hits the lens has severe diminishing returns over 120 fps on any display. Some people are able to “see faster” but generally speaking, the average human being can’t “see” over 120 FPS. I forget the actual scientific phenomenon name that allows us to do that off hand.

[brave sundial]

The only good product worth your money alienware still makes to this day.

Good job on that Dell, I suppose

[ivory creek]

i aim way better now with 240hz than 60 on the monitor i had ages ago

[small zinc]

Oh no doubt you notice a smoother display. But the difference between 240 and 360 isn’t noticeable

[ivory creek]

might be the response time aswell

[small zinc]

Image smoothing when we went past the 60 fps mark in recent years made a huge difference

Keep in mind movies and television are still viewed at 24 fps

[ivory creek]

ye

[small zinc]

So when televisions went that whole 120 FPS thing, it was actually pretty gimmicky

But having it for gaming consoles or even pc monitor made it nice

[ivory creek]

i think the hobbit was released with a 60fps version on cinema and people complained about motion sickness

[midnight crypt]

Was it proper 60fps though

They usually just use interpolation

[ivory creek]

idk

[small zinc]

I’d be curious what that looked like. Probably fairly comical. But the irony is that lower frame rate in applications such as VR is what cause motion sickness. So having a rig powerful enough to power dual screens (one for each eye) was crucial to prevent that

[lofty light]

I brought in my spare old gaming monitor to use at work, and it’s super funny to see just how much a 1ms response rate compared to a standard business monitor refresh makes

Just got a screensaver going on both and although they’re both 60fps 1080p the refresh is soooooo noticeable

[mild bough]

imagine not having 360hz monitor

[toxic wigeon]

Another aspect is screen tear which is why you buy the crazier high refresh rates ones.

Honestly I bet to a trained eye you could notice it but it might not be as much of a difference.

[mild bough]

tbf i have not noticed a significant difference between 144hz and 360hz which justifies the price

Even screen tearing

Colours on 360hz are straight dogshit aswell

[ivory creek]

i can set my monitor to 360hz, but i read that hdmi 2.1 really only supports 240hz 1440p native, so ive kept it at that

[mild bough]

might aswell not really a point unless you play cs r6s or valo

[molten flame]

https://youtu.be/j3C77MSCvS0?

[ivory creek]

https://www.techspot.com/news/105728-arctic-new-8000-rpm-case-fans-absolutely-scream.html

a fan who needs another small fan on it to cool the motor

[terse glade]

WTF xD

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/samsung-reportedly-developed-500-hz-qd-oled-with-1440p-resolution

[ivory creek]

im really happy with my odyssey oled g6, only thing that is annoying is that i have to press the power off like 2-5 times before it actually shut down the screen

lol

[willow schooner]

Is it not just doing screen protection shutdown at those times it isn't turning off?

[ivory creek]

its like a joystick on the back where u controll everything, where i press it downwards then push it in to turn off

but its not the best

you often have to press it in several times in the menues aswell

[willow schooner]

It doesn't have a dedicated power button?

[ivory creek]

nope

[willow schooner]

Odd for such an expensive product.

[coarse nimbus]

the design department went for max minimalist huh?

[ivory creek]

the larger 4k oled g8 have another smart system tho i think

[raven dock]

i would absolutely sell my kidney for this tbh

[brave sundial]

BFD has fallen (once again)

[molten flame]

[molten flame]

ordered a Lenovo Legion Go

[brave sundial]

aka the nintendo switch pro

I'm personally waiting for the next gen Z2

[molten flame]

you have to be careful which Z2 you buy

Z2 is based on 3 different CPU and GPU architectures

the Z2G uses Zen 3+ CPU and RDNA2 iGPU

Z2 is Zen 4 and RDNA3

Z2 Extreme is Zen 5 and RDNA3+

Z2G will be terrible performance but cheap, you might as well get something that's already out

[balmy fractal]

Just got a notification from Kaspersky saying that my hard drive has gone from 86% health to 26% in 7 days, and while I don't know what any of it means, its telling me about a 'Reallocated Sector Count' being high. Already gone and backed everything up, but is my drive a goner?

[brave sundial]

[brave sundial]

Why are you paying for kapersky, windows defender is right there and it's free

Maybe check crystaldiskinfo to see if it matches up with there?

I used it for some older hdds I had that were ancient, found which ones still worked with most sectors intact and which ones didn't

[balmy fractal]

tried hard disk sentinel or whatever its called and that matches up

[brave sundial]

[balmy fractal]

yeah I think I'm gonna avoid the risk and just get a replacement

ssd this time

always get nervous messing around with parts though

oh yeah, how can I check what motherboard I have? Need to confirm i've got the right pcie slot

[brave sundial]

I usually use hwinfo64 for detailed information like that all in 1 place

[balmy fractal]

will grab that real quick

yeah I feel just getting an ssd will be the simplest option. Easy to install, get rid of this one

to be safe

[brave sundial]

and they go for pretty good rates these days

[balmy fractal]

150 for a 2TB one sounds good

[brave sundial]

With dram?

[balmy fractal]

No idea

Was just gonna do this one https://www.scan.co.uk/products/2tb-samsung-990-pro-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-ssd-mlc-v-nand-7450mb-s-read-6900mb-s-write-pc-ps5

[brave sundial]

I got one for 70, was dramless though. A 990 pro for that price is really good

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/samsung-to-present-gddr7-memory-with-42-5-gb-s-speed-at-isscc-2025

holy moly

imagine 40+ Gbps 512-bit for 5090

[pale quartz]

nope

has 28-32gbps, not these 40gbps modules

[molten flame]

40+ Gbps will probably only be possible for 6000 series or beyond

because GDDR7 needs maturing

[midnight crypt]

9800x3d installed and running great so far

[ivory creek]

Even tho my 5800x3d is starting to get old it holds up

Okey not old, older

[solar kestrel]

How hard is it to transfer windows from a 1tb hard drive to a 1tb ssd

[vernal pendant]

don't tempt fate, just reinstall windows

[stuck ginkgo]

always better to reinstall windows on new drive and only copy what u need after from the hd later

[dry pike]

That being said, your SSD manufacturer might have a tools for transfering like that

I know Samsung does

[pale quartz]

he's on a hard drive it's not possible

it'll be in MBR format, a full wipe is necessary to be compatible with GPT

[ivory creek]

i noticed that my bios set the boot mode to legacy or whatever and it seemed to work, but i switched it to windows

on my ssd windows 11

weird stuff

[pale quartz]

this is only enforced on the actual installation of windows 11, you can use legacy but software like anticheats which enforce UEFI TPM won't function correctly

[quick locust]

I only use procheats

[brave sundial]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Phone-9-Pro-review-This-smartphone-is-the-first-choice-for-every-gamer.924300.0.html

'first choice'

Only 2 years of updates

With the new 8 elite supporting up to 9

Why do Asus still even try, atleast Sony are pretty pro-sumer by regularly releasing aosp binaries for their phones

[molten flame]

https://wccftech.com/apple-orders-m5-chip-from-tsmc-based-on-soic/amp/

[midnight crypt]

Why would they forgoe it

they could just offload the extra costs on the customer as usual

[pale quartz]

that's not how this works

contract prices for nodes are agreed in advance, typically 1-2 years but tsmc has been hiking them, so production timelines are impacted based on whatever is being made in xyz time

[midnight crypt]

Make product more expensive?

Simple as really

[pale quartz]

making an iPhone more expensive doesn't solve anything

as I said products are continuously produced on the same node, they don't just cease manufacturing, so if tsmc hike a node price by another 20% apple would need to do the same thing for a phone later in it's cycle, which is bad economics and just a bad idea in general

[toxic wigeon]

True though someone else higher up thinks its a brilliant idea.

Ugh

What a fucking joke.

[prime jasper]

Looking to see if anyone can help. 100 hours on EA (Origion) recently got the game on Steam so I can play on Boosteriod. The website says cross-progression works, and it looks like my EA and steam are connected but I dont have all of my gun/vehicle unlocks and skin on steam. Any insight from the group?

[rancid inlet]

Hi everyone,

I've been experiencing stuttering issues in Battlefield 2042, and I can't figure out why. My hardware should be more than enough to handle the game. I'm playing on medium settings with the following setup:

GPU: ASRock RX 6750 XT 12GB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500X

RAM: 2x Crucial CT2K16G4DFRA32A (32GB total)

I mostly play Conquest with 64 players, and the stuttering happens randomly – it doesn't matter if it's at the start, middle, or end of a match.

Does anyone have an idea what might be causing this? Any tips or suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

[toxic wigeon]

Your CPU.

Due to it being a much older model I would not advise using it.

Gpu wise you're fine. It works.

[pale quartz]

3500x is a god awful processor it doesn't support hyperthreading time for a new one

[plucky token]

https://youtu.be/0pomC1CfpC0?si=EeFHH0TbfsXqbDaw

NZXT scam

[cursive marten]

Does anyone here have experience with standing desks and can recommend a good one.

[ivory creek]

i wanna find an adjustable desk aswell

that can adjust to any height

not just two

ikea got alot of desks who just got two different heights

[willow schooner]

IKEA idasen motorized.

[dry pike]

I cant even find one. They all seem to have arrows where you can adjust freely.

[ivory creek]

Idasen seems solid tho , like bsod mentioned, abit pricey tho. Could be worth it tho

[rancid inlet]

Ah damn it. Any recommendations?

[pale quartz]

5700x3d

[rancid inlet]

Completely sold out in my country

[pale quartz]

get a 5600x or something anything is better than the one you have already

look on the second hand market aswell

[ivory creek]

Ye u can look for 5800x3d secondhand aswell

[rancid inlet]

I am pretty new with pc parts. What's the difference in ryzen 5 and 7?

[pale quartz]

core count, don't pay attention to the number

[rancid inlet]

Well there is a AMD Ryzen 7 5700X in black Friday sale

[pale quartz]

just get that

you'll need to update your bios aswell

[rancid inlet]

Ah damn

Need to learn that as well

[brave sundial]

My friend has a flexispot, and now I want to get one too

[brave sundial]

https://youtu.be/0pomC1CfpC0

new gamers nexus diss track just dropped

that TikTok marketing though, straight up predatory towards kids

[toxic wigeon]

I do love the insults steve hurled.

[cursive marten]

honestly i'll probably end up gravitating towards them anyway.

[coarse nimbus]

3:50 gave me unrepairable brain damage

"maybe you could win fortnite tournament and buy one.. (pans over to his own pc because he won a tournament apparently?) but thats not easy"

[candid flame]

didn't Linus work with NZXT

why does it seem like everything Linus-involved is shady

[brave sundial]

[dry pike]

To be fair, Linux works with loooots of people. It will happen time to time. What matters is if they should have known or dont react if its bad.

[candid flame]

no I meant Linus used to work for NZXT not as partner but an employee

and he hired the ex-ceo of nzxt to be lmg's new ceo, didn't he

[coarse nimbus]

now linus axed like half of the shit they do

gee what happens when you grow your tech company waay beyond what you can sustain

[dry pike]

That was NCIX which no longer exists

[candid flame]

oh right

I forgor

[prime jasper]

if I could bottle this feeling and spray it on me every morning I would.

and I'm jealous of the deepcool hardware. glad I managed to get my psu and aio before they were banned

[toxic wigeon]

I thought they were a US based company and couldn't sell outside of it due to their recent idiocy. @prime jasper

It's so big @pale quartz

[prime jasper]

I'm in the US and can't buy it here. That's all I know.

[toxic wigeon]

The fan is legitimately massive.

I'm in Australia for context. But that's... odd.

[prime jasper]

are they 140mm?

[toxic wigeon]

Uh it's the deep cool assassin IV.

[pale quartz]

it's not odd, people in the US can't buy anything as deep cool are banned there

[pale quartz]

yeah funny thing is it's actually considered small by compact sizes but probably bigger than you're used to

[toxic wigeon]

No isn't deep cool US based?

I know they sold their shit to Russia and that.

[pale quartz]

nope, Chinese

[toxic wigeon]

Ohhh

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-ryzen-ai-300-gaming-handheld-now-available-costs-91-more-than-rog-ally-x#disqus_thread

a handheld don't need more than 8 cores

the one with HX 370 and 1TB storage is $1500

2TB model is $1700

can't wait for it to flop and hardly anyone buys it so the price comes down

[brave sundial]

I'd only buy from companeies like ayaneo and onexplayer if those costed like $400-600

Not trusting them with something as expensive as 1.5k

[molten flame]

Lenovo handhelds have better screens

[jade atlas]

They are? I have 3 Deep cool case fans and a CPU cooler from Deepcool. I’m in America

I bought my parts in 2023, looks like they were banned in 2024

[short pawn]

valve on their way to monopolise another industry cause evertything is shit

[crisp lance]

The HELL, show when done :3

[digital hill]

You know what's funny

The shaddiest loan shark is cheaper then NZXT

Yes, your average mob run loan shark, will be cheaper to pay off then NZXT rental plan, like look you might get some injuries if you, don't pay it off, but at the same time, it won't go beyond NZXT year long plan

Which Gamer Nexus, literally stated, amazing plans

[candid flame]

intel to announce B580 tomorrow, allegedly

[pale quartz]

thats it there

[toxic wigeon]

My dumbass brain

I read that as B850.

[candid flame]

it's supposedly going to be 250$ right? really cheap

so another esports card

[pale quartz]

announcement is tomorrow, retail shortly after, dont know pricing but its a budget card

dont expect much in terms of perf

[toxic wigeon]

Hey I want to clear my secondary SSD out but it's not so simple.

Through disc management, Do I just format it?

I want to use it as a boot drive for my new motherboard.

[pale quartz]

yes, ensure its formatted into ntfs format and theres no partitions once formatted (it will appear as black on the disk view below e.g. disk 1/2 etc)

if youre wanting to use it as a boot drive you can do the same thing via a burned windows iso anyways

might be easier if youre not wanting to screw around with other drives

[toxic wigeon]

Ok format it into NTFS and don't remove partitions.

[pale quartz]

opposite remove all partitions

[toxic wigeon]

My bad but sure

[pale quartz]

its probably easier just waiting tbh, means you can use the drive for whatever purpose it has till the motherboard arrives

unless its already there

[toxic wigeon]

Oh yeah everything IS here.

[toxic wigeon]

Sorry how do you remove partitions?

Uncheck quick format?

[pale quartz]

just leave it for now till you are on the windows install screen, you might accidentally delete other partitions, its the same process this time all youre doing is plugging in that drive only, it means you can remove them all safely

[toxic wigeon]

OHHHH

Right so when windows is being installed what will happen is that it'll clear out.

Cause clean drive kinda deal.

So I really don't have to do anything. I want to format the primary drive cause the other parts will be going to my sister which is why I'm being super specific.

[pale quartz]

just before you click install you will have the option of deleting all the partitions, fairly straightforward -> windows media creation tool -> boot usb -> (with that nvme plugged in only), then wipe all the partitions via that gui and just install as normal

after windows is done you just shut it down and plug in the rest

[toxic wigeon]

So even when it's the sole m.2 in the new motherboard and installing windows even with the old files there, It should clear. For context this is the secondary drive of this computer I want to make into the primary boot drive for the new computer, Not sure if I made that clear enough.

[pale quartz]

it will clear, you cant install it (with keeping files), it'll tell you during the installation process but yeah close enough

[toxic wigeon]

Whatever we will see when it comes to it!

[cursive marten]

Ayaneo is a bit sketch to me personally

[brave sundial]

They all are. And by that I mean the ones not from oems that have had a good reputation making PC parts or pc-adjacent tech.

Asus isn't the best either but I would rather trust them over ayaneo

The fact that they release like 6 new skus not even a year after the last one really shows you how committed they are to supporting older models.

[cursive marten]

at least ASUS hasn't given products to reviewers with very blatant faults and then weren't even honest to the reviewers about them when they were told about 'em.

[brave sundial]

but I suppose ayaneo might be better than GPD who take up to 5 months to rma because they don't bother to expand outside of Hong Kong

yet they sell their products globally online and try to beg for more through kickstarters

I mean their handhelds look cool, seriously impressive. But I don't trust a company that refuses to have easily replaceable parts like sticks

Just annoys me I see videos on YouTube praising them nonstop without disclaimers on what you'd get into if you buy from them. "this handheld is flawless, don't waste your money on the rog ally or steam deck!, way more powerful!"

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-8800-xt-rumored-to-rival-rtx-4080-with-less-power-mass-production-starts-this-month

said to rival 4080 in ray-tracing while using less power

[cursive marten]

i mean, it'd still be good even if it doesn't do that.

because who actually still uses raytracing.

[candid flame]

that would be pog

[ivory creek]

i want to remember seeing that even amd is going to start focusing on ai stuff further down the line. so maybe they'll catch up in a couple of years with some luck

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/press-release/intel-announces-retirement-of-ceo-pat-gelsinger

[terse glade]

[candid flame]

stock went up 5% in pre-market

[pale quartz]

bad headline lol

"retired" forced out

called it ages ago

[molten flame]

TSMC comment was the nail in the coffin

[pale quartz]

nope

IFS was

now that gelsinger is fired intel's discrete consumer gpu division is more or less done for and ifs is aswell

[willow schooner]

Is this satire, cos Asus has done this numerous times. Ranging from products like handhelds and motherboards, to GPUs

[cursive marten]

No it wasn't, I actually did not know that. I was referring to the time Ayaneo sent a youtuber a review version of the Ayaneo 2S which exhibited backlight bleed and excessively high temperatures, especially on the screen.

[willow schooner]

Remember when ASUS had multiple SD reader failures reported in pre production stock. Failed to fix it, shipped hundreds of thousands of faulty units, then spent 8 months ignoring and returning RMAs stating "user error" instead of taking responsibility. The issue was bricking units, the reader and the SD cards used in said readers.

[cursive marten]

no

i can't remember things i never heard about.

[willow schooner]

Maybe it's better to stay quiet regarding brands you don't have much info on in that case.

They also recently releases a bios for x3d cpus that bricked some boards, failed to pull that bios and then wouldn't offer RMA to anyone affected.

[cursive marten]

I already said I didn't know and didn't say anything else about the brand, what more do you want from me. A public apology for being uninformed?

Christ.

[brave sundial]

wasn't he brought on to 'save' the company?

I guess qualcomm buying some of them is back on the table

[willow schooner]

Yes, since you are the same person who HOUNDS others on this server to say they are misinformed, or wrong.

How does it feel when the tables are turned?

[brave sundial]

poor grandma though

[cursive marten]

I said ONE thing over an HOUR AGO.

[willow schooner]

One very wrong and misinformed thing, but yes.

[cursive marten]

because I did not know about the other incidents till you told me. Now I know, and have not made any comments about the brand since.

[willow schooner]

Lol this guy

[quick locust]

I mean most of the mainstream techtubers talked about it, as did quite a bit written media

[brave sundial]

so they'll launch battlemage and then just dip?

[pale quartz]

yup

[cursive marten]

I don't really watch mainstream techtubers, I only know about the Ayaneo thing cause that's the experience Bringus Studios had with the 2S.

[pale quartz]

BMG will continue because iGPUs exist but as far as support for discrete it goes away

[quick locust]

Big dollaroos

[candid flame]

yikes

[quick locust]

Still using 20% battery an hour even though Im charging

Great

[molten flame]

Handheld with Strix Halo would be over $2000

[brave sundial]

[terse glade]

[halcyon elm]

Folks that play on PC what size screen do you use? And did you build your PC with 4k in mind? Is that even necessary for monitors under a certain size?

[brave sundial]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1h55zfr/_/

I can't even..

[terse glade]

Damn

Well i assume houses are cheap there at least

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/seasonic-lists-unannounced-amd-radeon-rx-8800-xt-as-220w-graphics-card

8800XT only 220W

[cursive marten]

I'm assuming that's good

[vernal pendant]

these days it's pretty good

we're not gonna have competitive 75w cards ever again

[twin geode]

damn my 6950xt draws about 350 tops...

[toxic wigeon]

Goddamn that's really good.

[pale quartz]

its not great from an efficiency standpoint

95xt is the top rdna2 halo product

[candid flame]

does this look like a problem with my ssd or is it steam throttling my download speed?
At the start of the download, at that peak it was 150mb/s disk usage and ~60mb/s download speed, then it drops off into 30mb/s disk usage and 6mb/s...

[terse glade]

Sounds fair assuming with a slight undervolting 150watt are possible

[candid flame]

it's a pretty recent samsung 980 so I don't think it's the ssd's fault..

[willow schooner]

Does the same thing happen if you transfer files to the same ssd? Like can you transfer a game from a different also fast drive to it and see if it throttles?

[candid flame]

oh right, when I transfer files to and from the drive it's really fast

so I guess it's not the fault of the drive

[willow schooner]

Are you wired or on wireless?

[candid flame]

wired

[willow schooner]

And a speed test doesn't show any connection issues?

[candid flame]

1gbs connection, I used to get over 100mb/s on steam but recently it has been really slow

[candid flame]

yeah nothing from a speedtest

[willow schooner]

Maybe try a different download region?

[candid flame]

yeah there are 2 regions in my country and both of them are the same, I switched to another region outside of the country and it's downloading faster but still 20% slower than my original speed

I guess the content servers here are fucked?

I used to be able to get to 120mb/s at nighttime and 90-100mb/s during daytime

[molten flame]

RDNA4 is a good architecture but not enough

[pale quartz]

probably interrupt moderation at work here, switch it off and flow control

[pale quartz]

nah, top die 8800xt will only match between a 4070ti and 4080

@candid flame and make sure you've got the direct ethernet driver, not the one that's preinstalled

[candid flame]

sorry, don't understand what this means

[pale quartz]

give me a sec

@candid flame whats your ethernet driver or motherboard?

[pale quartz]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/19779/intel-killer-performance-suite.html go there, install this driver

[candid flame]

thanks

[pale quartz]

afterwards double click it go to advanced -> youll see 2/3/4/5 options, energy efficient ethernet, flow control, gigabit lite, green ethernet and interrupt moderation, make sure theyre all off (if available)

then click ok

these specifically

[candid flame]

much faster now, thanks. Still only half of what I had but at least it's not slogging at like 6-7mb/s

[pale quartz]

np

[ivory creek]

my isp is bullying people into signing over a year long closed deals, if u choose an option which lock you into having them for a year or more you get the same upload as download, but if you pick an open subscription which you can end anytime you get 1/10 upload

thats fcked up

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-announces-arc-b580-at-249-and-arc-b570-gpus-at-219

announces new GPUs the day after CEO is sacked

[pale quartz]

b580 is a failure

its 10% faster than a 4060 and draws 190w, the 4060 is a 110w card

[willow schooner]

I dont think a consumer will care about that, if it can actually be purchased at 249, versus 349, which the 4060 is commonly available for

These wont take off, other than as a niche tho. As Intel are gonna abandon the sector, and proably halt development of the drivers

[pale quartz]

meh it wont be making money anyways, another loss leader product, but ^

[willow schooner]

It would have been a more interesting card if it had 16gb of VRAM

[pale quartz]

unlikely to mean much since it cant render enough for 16 to matter

[willow schooner]

I think it would matter long term value wise. Look at how poorly the 2060 aged with its 6gbs, even at 1080p for example

[pale quartz]

ehh ig, though thats relying on the assumption that it gets development for future games to matter, gamble either way

[molten flame]

well 2060 was always a 1080p card

[pale quartz]

he means that it cant be used in games nowadays without running out of vram

even at 1080p

[molten flame]

UE5 games too demanding

[willow schooner]

Nothing to do with UE5, 2060 aged like milk for the majotiry of games at 1080p

[molten flame]

UE5 is the reason why some new games struggle to hit 100+ fps even with a 4090

[pale quartz]

yeah that has nothing to do with whats being discussed

[willow schooner]

I mean, I cant really just blame an engine for performance issues either. Its not like devs are being forced to use UE5. Its a choice they are making. A choice to use an engine version they know is not performant.

UE4 had the same issues back in the day, but over time became more and more optimized. Same thing back then tho, devs werent forced to use it in its early stages, but chose to.

[brave sundial]

Their naming scheme makes me confuse it for a motherboard

[livid finch]

Is the amd 6700xt - ryzen 7 5800x build good to run bf2024 on QHD?

[pale quartz]

you mean 2042?

[livid finch]

Yes

[pale quartz]

yes its fine, albeit dated parts, depends on the price

[livid finch]

Yea its budget thats why i help a buddy build it

6750xt is 300€

[pale quartz]

look into ampere cards and a 5700x3d, theyre more powerful and you can probably get them for a similar price

[willow schooner]

5800x is ok, but you might try to find something a bit newer

[pale quartz]

rx 6000 cards for new games will perform terribly

[livid finch]

Rlly? I saw vids at yt where they try games on ultra settings qhd and it was above 60fps everytime

[pale quartz]

yeah thats cause they arent using raytracing

for any game that does it will be about 20 frames

get a 3060 or something its just better

[livid finch]

Ye i asked him he said he wont use raytracing

[pale quartz]

is he wanting to buy any new game? because he will not have a choice in a few years

games are enforcing global illumination that cant be turned off

[livid finch]

Tbh i got 3090 and raytracing there is also very bad for performance

[livid finch]

Ye he wants a future proof budget pc

[pale quartz]

then definitely dont get him that card lol

[livid finch]

So a different cpu?

[willow schooner]

On a budget, id get a 6750XT over a 3060.

[pale quartz]

no GPU, though you should probably swap the CPU aswell, look into a second hand rtx 3080

[livid finch]

Ye

[pale quartz]

theyre probably roughly the same price

[livid finch]

He wanted to buy 4070 super but i convinced him to not

[pale quartz]

why not?

[willow schooner]

If they have the budget for it, why not?

For a gaming Pc, they would be far better off to spend the most money on their GPU

[pale quartz]

^

[livid finch]

Mb i meant 4060 super

[pale quartz]

there is no 4060 super

[livid finch]

4060 ti 8gb

[pale quartz]

yes thats a bad buy, however tell him to get the 4060ti 16gb

[willow schooner]

Probably the 4060ti then, which I would get over the 6700XT. 8gbs on the 4060ti is the only concern of mine for 1440p and it being decent in 2-4 years

[livid finch]

We saw testings together and the result was its the same performance as 6750xt

[pale quartz]

no its not the same because it has frame generation

rdna2 cards do not

[candid flame]

also make sure to avoid userbenchmark

[willow schooner]

DLSS, frame generation, drivers that dont break every 3rd release....and a stable set of good software features.

[pale quartz]

if hes wanting a "futue proof" system a 4060ti is by far a better purchase

[willow schooner]

where are ye located, and what store are you shopping with?

[livid finch]

Oh ok i‘ll talk to him again cuz its only 150€ difference with 6750xt

[livid finch]

Amazon from Germany

[willow schooner]

Dam...the 5800x is only 145 EUR on amazon haha

[pale quartz]

he'll be buying a new card far sooner with a 6750xt than a 4060ti 16gb, the difference is negated more or less

[livid finch]

Nono 4070ti 16gb is 450 and 6750 is 325

[willow schooner]

What is the total budget?

[livid finch]

1k

[pale quartz]

how much is a 5700x3d?

[terse glade]

200€

[livid finch]

140

Its on sale for Bf

[pale quartz]

get it instead with a 4060ti 16gb then, youre still well within budget

is about 25% faster than a 5800x

[willow schooner]

Get that, a B550 board, any ddr4 3600 kit and the 4060ti 16gb

[livid finch]

Ight tysm

[pale quartz]

32gb of ddr4* to be specific

[terse glade]

A 5700x3d is not for 140€

[pale quartz]

hes in germany..

[terse glade]

Im in Germany too but theres nowhere a 5700x3d for that price

[pale quartz]

./shrug

[livid finch]

https://amzn.eu/d/0iKDKRl

[candid flame]

it's 215 euro here in Poland

[pale quartz]

thats a 5700x

[livid finch]

Its 285 but black friday its 51% sale

[willow schooner]

Ah, thts a normal 5700x, not the 3D

[livid finch]

Is it much different

[pale quartz]

very

look on the second hand market for one

[terse glade]

[pale quartz]

tbh its going to be that expensive that a 7600x may be cheaper all things considered

[molten flame]

[livid finch]

https://amzn.eu/d/5kQuq3D

[willow schooner]

For a budget gaming PC, they are better off to get the cheaper 5700x and really cheap ddr4 ram

[livid finch]

So 100€ more worth of difference?

[willow schooner]

IMO no

[pale quartz]

eh not worth it

the problem is the kit of memory will be need to be more expensive

[willow schooner]

Just get the 5700x, it will be fine for the next 5 years of gaming. Its not the best CPU, but its far from the worst.

[livid finch]

Yea we looked at intel cpus and amd 130€ was the best option for his budget

[pale quartz]

@livid finch regarding memory you need to be very specific, look for kits of memory which are cl16 3600, do not go lower as performance will fall off a cliff

so 16x2 cl16 3600

[terse glade]

What about 3200mhz

[pale quartz]

3200 cl14 is fine

just more uncommon

[livid finch]

On mainboard?

[molten flame]

neither my 5600G or 5800X3D would boot with 3600 memory lol

[pale quartz]

if cl16 then its a no buy

[livid finch]

Where can u see that

[pale quartz]

RAM

[livid finch]

Ye its corsair 3200mhz 2x 8gb

[pale quartz]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Kingston-Renegade-Desktop-Gaming-Memory/dp/B0CKJ71M2Y theres a kit for you

[terse glade]

😭

[livid finch]

https://amzn.eu/d/fYcEnQe

[pale quartz]

do not buy that get the kit i linked

[willow schooner]

3200 c14 kits are the best you can buy, but the kit linked above is perfect for a build like this

Its cheap, fast and "will just work"

[pale quartz]

^

[livid finch]

Its only 10€ difference from 3200mhz 2x 6gb

[pale quartz]

yes its a 15% performance difference, the 10 euro isnt worth it

add the one i linked to the basket and then forget about it

[livid finch]

https://amzn.eu/d/fYcEnQe

are these good

Cuz i use them

[pale quartz]

no they are worse

its a cl18 kit

[terse glade]

[livid finch]

But should i upgrade

Or is there no difference

[pale quartz]

what processor do you have

[livid finch]

i7 12700f

[pale quartz]

eh going to be little difference with a 12700f

no point

[willow schooner]

It will be next to no difference youll notice, so dont upgrade. But if buying for a new PC, just get this other kit

[livid finch]

Oh ok

[pale quartz]

it only matters for ryzen specifically non-x3d parts, that is, the one youre buying your friend

[livid finch]

I see

Tysm guys

[pale quartz]

np

[willow schooner]

From the boards I see available on amazon germany, id say the MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus is the best option. It has decent power delivery, cooling and has BIOs flashback included.

113 EUR its listed for

The MSI bios is relatively decent also

[pale quartz]

good board if wifi isnt necessary

[midnight crypt]

Just don't use dragon center

[willow schooner]

I/O wise its also decent for the price. Onboard DP and HDMI, 7 USB ports and a type C USB 3.2 port

[livid finch]

Yea we got the B550-A pro

Is it much different from the gaming plus

I think we‘ll go for the plus cuz it has 2 ssd slots

And cools the 2 ssd

[livid finch]

Ye he uses lan cable

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-announces-ces-2025-press-event-with-next-generation-of-innovation-in-gaming

Zen 6

[pale quartz]

rdna4 not zen 6

[molten flame]

RDNA4 gonna fall short of 5070

[molten flame]

you gonna wait for B770

[terse glade]

I wait for am6

[molten flame]

with 5700X3D or 5800X3D you can comfortably skip AM5

they still hold up really well unless you got a 4090

[terse glade]

True that

[pale quartz]

4080

[molten flame]

yeah I can see that

main issue with 5700X3D is that it has 400-500 MHz lower clocks than the 5800X3D

5700X3D is literally just bad binned 5800X3D, the inventory of those SKUs will clear out pretty soon

[pale quartz]

makes no difference, 1-2% at most

[willow schooner]

Isn't it also 100mhz difference not 500?

Or maybe that's the non 3d parts

[small zinc]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/unannounced-ryzen-9-9950x3d-dominates-ryzen-7-9800x3d-in-factorio-benchmark-ryzen-9000x3d-flagship-up-to-18-percent-faster-than-current-fastest-gaming-cpu

Seems that the 9950x3d finally has v-cache on both CCD's

Was going to consider buying a 9800x3d coming crom a 7950x3d. But i'll just wait. Not to mention scalpers at Christmas time jacking up the price $200 bucks

[rotund dirge]

Hello. I currently struggle with a problem on bf1 and bf5. when i launch the game, no pictures load and game goas black. none of the methods ive found on the internet work. is there anybode who has solved this problem recently and could help me? i can even pay a little amount of money, just help me fix it

[prime jasper]

how much money are you going to pay to play two games that collectively cost less than $4 right now?

[rotund dirge]

idk 3$?

dude i had 1500hrs in bf5

[gaunt vine]

are there any audiophiles here?
i just wanna know if the Sennheiser HD6602S and the cobalt dragonfly are a good combo or not

[cursive marten]

lemme do some high impact googling

[cursive marten]

uhh, I think those headphones might be a bit much for a tiny USB DAC like that, you'd really want a dedicated player made to run headphones like those, or a desktop amp.

like you could use 'em but I don't think it'd be of that much benefit.

[gaunt vine]

yeah so it would really just be like 200 bucks down the drain

[cursive marten]

Yeah. I'm assuming you already have the HD6602S's?

[gaunt vine]

so you think just plugging it into the 3.5mm jack of my pc with a desktop amp would be better?

[gaunt vine]

nope

im considering buying them

[cursive marten]

Yeah, that would be a better setup for headphones like that. The HD 660S2's are like 300 ohm headphones.

[gaunt vine]

aight

[gaunt vine]

so the higher the ohm the lower the power or?

[cursive marten]

The more ohms a headphone has, the more power it's going to take to run them.

[gaunt vine]

okay

do you have any reccomendations for a desktop amp?

[cursive marten]

https://www.schiit.com/ Schiit audio is generally recommended for desktop amps.

[molten coral]

I love schiit

[cursive marten]

I can't speak to their quality personally, however, and it's probably worth looking around like, audio subreddits to get a better idea of the whole market.

[molten coral]

I use a shiit stack for a few years now and it has been great

[cursive marten]

I am looking at the Fulla right now tho. Not that I have any headphones that would need an amp, really.

[molten flame]

They're the schiit

[cursive marten]

I still need to get my SR850's fixed. :(

[molten coral]

I just have a magni and modi stack

[gaunt vine]

the schiit midgard looks to be good for my case, within my budget

[cursive marten]

Ye, it'll definitely run the headphones you want

[gaunt vine]

mabye the magni, its hard to find the midgard in norway]

the schiit magni unity looks good

i also will say that i listen to quite heavy stuff

mostly death metal and some other lighter metal genres

[tidal veldt]

can someone help me get better performance in the battlefield game

its js all laggy n everything

[astral ibex]

yo guys, im facing an issue with all battlefield games ( 1, V, 2042). The audio stutters like crazy, is there any fix to it?

[pale quartz]

your hardware?

[tidal veldt]

idk, i thought i fixed it in the settings but its js

so bad

like the graphics, then the responsive time and the lag too

[candid flame]

you don't know your hardware?

[pale quartz]

^ what is your pc hardware

[terse glade]

[stable matrix]

hi

i have the directx error in my pc in bf1

can anyone help me?

4060 i7-13700hx and 16gn ram

[weary rover]

when i try to launch battlefield 2042 it says i need to uptate nvidia geoforce or something like that, can anyone pls help

[lost cargo]

Do what it says. Update your GeForce. And prob your gpu drives

[dry pike]

"just"

[brave sundial]

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2024/12/making-play-integrity-api-faster-resilient-private.html

tfw you can't use your banking or payment apps anymore because the OEM of your device hasn't given it the latest security patch, even when you're bone stock and haven't done any modifications

Imagine MS doing this. Don't have windows with absolutely no modifications? Can't run anything crucial or even stuff like steam with how integrity failing can trip up some mobile games

I don't blame the security team under John wu, man makes some insane money, I respect that. But man

and Google will get away with this, as expected

[pale quartz]

1: this is a good thing
2: I had already said previously that attestation would be enforced eventually
3: having the ability to bypass safetynet is contrary to why it exists

and specifically this is about Google play system updates not android updates, these are fundamentally separate and the former is not handled by OEMs, it's handled by Google directly

[brave sundial]

It's less about security with this with this and more about having control over how people use their devices

but I suppose the apps need to be reassured the platform is 'safe'

As if simply having an unlocked bootloader automatically makes you a threat to the security of apps, some malicious attacker and that will magically make it the process easier for you. Root access I can get. But just an unlocked bootloader?

But I guess I shouldn't be surprised Google wants to further take away what android was known for to better 'mainstream' the appeal to the mass majority over the power users and tinkerers that make under 1%.

[molten flame]

Screen on this handheld is huge

[toxic wigeon]

Jesus

[digital hill]

Jesus, only one touchpad

[molten flame]

what's wrong with 1?

ngl I wish this thing had less buttons

[molten flame]

There's buttons all over the back of the controllers and I accidentally press them constantly

[short pawn]

looking to just upgrade the cpu part of my outdated socket motherboard

LGA 1151

currently i got 9400f

and im thinking of getting like a used i7 9700kf or i9 9900kf

[pale quartz]

9900kf or 9900k only, the 9700kf is not an upgrade

@short pawn

[willow schooner]

I can atest to the above. The 9700K should be avoided at all costs.

Same with 9600K

[brave sundial]

Honestly I like that. Idk why the deck is still the only handheld with 4 back buttons. Everyone else does 2

[pale quartz]

also spoiler for everyone but RDNA4 will be a failure at launch the architecture doesn't support 2 pass through for encoding

[willow schooner]

Doubt most "Gamers" will care a lot about that, but it is a mega fail. These GPUs are probably cut back in every way possible to deliver at a lower cost

[pale quartz]

yup will match Nvidia h264 in stream quality more or less

absolute disaster

[willow schooner]

AMD Radeon still acting like the pc gaming landscape is back in 2012

[short pawn]

guh?

[brave sundial]

And they'll still price them only $50 lower than the Nvidia equivalent card for each sku

[lost cargo]

Where RDNA5

Be an average cod fanboy.
“Trust me bro next one will be better”

AMD users be like:

[willow schooner]

9700k is 8 cores and no hyperthreading. It suffers a lot of issues in modern games due to this. In general it is a terrible CPU.

9600K is 6 cores and no hyperthreading, equally as bad.

[quick locust]

https://x.com/TechPowerUp/status/1864623709757042912

TechPowerUp (@TechPowerUp) on X

Intel 18A Process Node Clocks an Abysmal 10% Yield: Report https://t.co/Spx5VX9Q6v

Twitter · Dec 5, 2024, 10:51 AM

[quick locust]

Eh id say coffee lake is long in the tooth HT or not

[pale quartz]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/nvidia-app-officially-replaces-geforce-experience-in-latest-gpu-drivers gfe is now dead

[dry pike]

good

[molten flame]

[quick locust]

No more girlfriend experience

[molten flame]

10% yield means they ditch it altogether, there ain't no saving that

[quick locust]

Yeah idk what they can use their own fabs rn for besides special uses

Besides still producing older gens

Lunar Lake, Arrow Lake and Arc gpus are all TSMC except for some foveros packaging

[molten flame]

Bring back 14nm

[quick locust]

Its still being made I think

[molten flame]

Make a 10950KS

[quick locust]

Iirc jet fighters use 14nm and 22nm cpus

From intel

Like the 4700EQ

[pale quartz]

the yield doesnt mean anything

we know dont the size

[quick locust]

Yoda you are

[brave sundial]

Wasn't this going to be their saving grace?

[brave sundial]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/dec/05/vodafone-and-three-given-approval-to-merge

Can't wait for 3EEBTafonO2irgin in the future

[molten flame]

FYI China hack is still there embedded in every router telecoms use. Until they replace them, China can see all texts and calls

[dry pike]

That's what happens when you make backdoors. People find out and exploit them.

[molten flame]

it's been going on for years lol

[dry pike]

Sure. Some governments insists on backdoors and have been doing it for a long time.

[digital hill]

Ah you’ve meet the NSA and CIA

[burnt coyote]

i operate with the assumption that i have no privacy on the internet

[digital hill]

This is why we should become data brokers

Buy data and resell to other data brokers

Including big gov

[ivory creek]

kinda absurd that the entire world let them breach into everything there is, but what can you do against a superpower

[burnt coyote]

im betting they where either bought off or coerced into allowing backdoors or blackmailed

[lament bone]

has anyone had a reliable fix for unable to loard persistance error

[molten flame]

9800X3D restock December 11/12

[terse glade]

Nah i wait for 9700x3d

[molten flame]

9700X3D with 400-500 MHz lower clocks to effectively make it similar to 7800X3D performance

$300 pls

[terse glade]

Yea that wouldn't make any sense tbh xD

There is a 7600x3d tho

So I guess in 2 year we see a 9600x3d popping up shortly before zen6

[molten flame]

Zen 6 is expected to launch earlier than previous architecture cycles

rumor says late 2025 but it probably will end up being 1H 2026

I expect CES 2026 to be the product announcement

It's very likely not on AM5 because of DDR6 support

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/392122302457970688/1314445942501671024/pbqbp6iwl15e1.webp?ex=6753ccad&is=67527b2d&hm=6d54a09b63c32104e6438ac282abf4d1112249a4a1eb880a0fe1c2afb0f4b8e5&=&format=webp&width=470&height=671

[toxic wigeon]

It's so big!

[molten coral]

chonky

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qqeMWrrxMc

[ivory creek]

Uh, new jones game seem to have a ryzen 7700 recommended or higher on steam. Is there any point to get it with 5800x3d?

[candid flame]

I think you should be fine lol

[ivory creek]

Alright

Wait i already got gamepass this month so i can try it anyway in 3 days, forgot about it

Lol

[molten flame]

9800X3D slightly better than 9950X3D by gaming average, dual CCD design will likely never exceed a singular CCD when it comes to V-cache, even if dual CCD has higher clockspeeds