technology

[coarse nimbus]

so we move to 48 pin and dont correct the issue?

[sullen zealot]

of course (do not take my advice)

[molten flame]

oofie

[brave sundial]

[lost cargo]

Series 7 is better than 9

[brave sundial]

Intel what the hell

[molten flame]

5800X3D still king

[brave sundial]

The 7s are the X3D ones

[lost cargo]

Where is the 9s x3d ones

[coarse nimbus]

lowest settings
theyre rigging it from the start

[molten flame]

turns it into a CPU benchmark

[coarse nimbus]

theyre coloring the news!

[lost cargo]

Why 1080p and not 720p

[coarse nimbus]

480p, bring it back to 2006 youtube

[lost cargo]

240p

[molten flame]

very bad

[lost cargo]

Some people will say it’s rigged

[coarse nimbus]

i do enjoy getting 366 fps in cs2 is considered bad

imagine telling someone 20 years ago we would get that much

[molten flame]

Intel isn't an option for gamers anymore

I like how 5800X3D can beat Zen 5 in many new games

[coarse nimbus]

im too scared to even ask about this new intel naming scheme

[molten flame]

just take the 'Ultra' out of the name and it will look more modest

no reason to make names that are so long they barely fit on the screen

[coarse nimbus]

is this like canonically 15th gen?

[molten flame]

imo technically 16th if you count meteor-lake as 15th

[coarse nimbus]

ah fair, so they just kinda rolled back the odometer on the long ass number

[molten flame]

yes but ironically made their names even longer

[coarse nimbus]

letters forming words dont count -intel

[digital hill]

Intel be like “so our newest generation is actually worse then our previous one and uses same amount of power or more”

[molten flame]

uses less power when gaming but that's about it

when overclocked it can exceed over 350 watts

[brave sundial]

[digital hill]

Kind of ass

Like a bit less power

[molten flame]

ik because gamers typically don't care about power comsumption

[digital hill]

And amd uses less and still produces more

[digital hill]

And also the fact it is shitter than their previous generation

[molten flame]

I had a friend that had a Xeon 3175X overclocked to 5.6 GHz on 8 cores (the other 20 cores were disabled) and he used 2 chillers to keep it from overheating

he ran it like that daily btw

all money but no sense

but my point is, gamers don't care about power draw at all

so Arrow-Lake doesn't really appeal to anyone

[digital hill]

True

[digital hill]

And damn that only 8 cores

[molten flame]

that was back when 9900K was the best CPU

he modified a Xeon CPU to make it faster than the 9900K

[digital hill]

Make sense and also, you need a shitload of air by the way

For 5.6ghz

[molten flame]

well yeah he had 2 chillers

sub-zero chillers

[digital hill]

Ah Jesus those thing must cost a fortune for power

[molten flame]

the system with the chillers combined used over 3000 watts

[digital hill]

Ah, damn he was already living in the future

[coarse nimbus]

just had to get the cpu up to 88 mph

[digital hill]

Only

[molten flame]

I wanted to find the pictures of his system layout but that was on my other discord account

[digital hill]

Ah, damn

I just gotta imagine how cold was his room

Or how warm it was

[molten flame]

his config was crazy, won't ever find something like that even on youtube

[digital hill]

Ah well I gotta disappear

Cya

[toxic wigeon]

God that's sad.

5800x3d being better than it

[brave sundial]

5800X3D legit feels like the 1080Ti of cpus now lol

[toxic wigeon]

It was a happy accident.

But this time it wasn't because they're riding off the success of it hard.

If that makes sense.

[quick locust]

Almost full TSMC so thats interesting

[lost cargo]

So true

[cursive marten]

i feel like AMD makes GPU's cause they have to

cause who else is going to?

[quick locust]

I mean consoles exist

[pale quartz]

they make it cause it makes them money lol

not cause they have to

[brave sundial]

yeah they will always exist as the budget option

Because what other option do people have? Intel?

[pale quartz]

intel discrete is cancelled, after battlemage there will be no more

[molten flame]

heard of Xe3 but no info on discrete so you are probably right

Arc GPUs were being sold at basically no profit once mid-range RDNA3 and RTX 40 GPUs launched

[lost cargo]

They entered the market just to leave

[molten flame]

shareholders aren't patient to wait for generations for Intel to become competitive in that market

Battlemage is only capable of competing with 4070 and 7800XT best case scenario, which means the flagship GPU will have to be $400 or less to be able to get any sales

profitability is very low

[lost cargo]

Mmm 🤔

[turbid verge]

sure

the same intel who had profits in teh last year and half

totally shareholders give a damm about what intel does or not and not the profits

on the other hand intel missed their target profit margin by 2% which isnt bad

considering they are expanding and investing on their new factory in the US

and AMD has been in profit for a year now, solid margins. But not as big as intel was the past year

[toxic wigeon]

Underwhelming ass generation.

[turbid verge]

for consumer grade yes

for their biggest clients, they dont care lol

as long they got investment going into the company they wont disappear from day to night

[molten flame]

Intel layoffs prove that they are NOT doing good

they are gonna cut off over 10% of their workforce

[turbid verge]

there's been layoffs everywhere

[molten flame]

yeah but that's over 15,000 jobs

[turbid verge]

literally its still the post covid effect of to much hiring to fill contract numbers

nothing new in the tech world lol

I still remember some guy from Meta talking how they had like a team of 20 people for some stupid thing 4 people could handle

then you wonder why they do these layoffs

[turbid verge]

its not like Intel is the only company in the world

if you got a job at intel you sure can get a job somewhere else considering its part of your curriculum lol

[molten flame]

Intel is now the worst-performing tech stock in the S&P 500 this year

Investors didn’t seem happy that the company kept itself on a knife’s edge: over the past two years, before this quarterly loss, it had continued to swing between losses and profits overall, for just $1.1 billion in cumulative profit between Q2 2022 and Q1 2024.

[turbid verge]

Ehm, Intel has had worse years lol

this isnt even a bad year for them

[molten flame]

Yes even Nvidia has too

[turbid verge]

I dont judge companies on their stock performance

[molten flame]

AMD has almost went bankrupt multiple times

Nvidia did too in 1997

[turbid verge]

I rather judge on their profits and investments

Intel wont go bankrupt anytime soon

they still got Vanguard behind their back

[molten flame]

too many assets lol

[lost cargo]

Joker knows a lot

[turbid verge]

yeh nice tracking btw

lets try last year numbers shall we?

going around shouting xyz company has this profit between this and this year is pointless

rather look into their last fiscal year and see what they plan for the future of the company

"Intel gross profit for the twelve months ending June 30, 2024 was $22.829B, a 10.39% increase year-over-year. Intel annual gross profit for 2023 was $21.711B."

I can be selective on years and do it as well and call it a day

meanwhile I thank for the dividends intel

and even Intel CEO has justified that they were cutting dividends to expand their operations and facilities and make AI focused chips

[molten flame]

Intel won't be able to compete with Strix Point/Halo for laptops/tablets and handhelds, can't compete with Zen 5c Epyc in the server market, can't beat 3 year old AMD CPUs in gaming, shutting down discrete GPUs after 2 generations

[turbid verge]

again, they wont go bankrupt over that lmao

its just basic hating on a company because anyone can. I legit rather have a competition than choose a side

[lost cargo]

Maybe they realized that they tried and don’t succeed in the GPU market. They always been CPU focused company

I’m surprised they entered and left. But it maybe the right call for them

[turbid verge]

I mean Iam from the time AMD almost dropped their GPU program

and their CPU's would overheat like hell just running simple stuff

are they bad? no. Did they improve over time? yes

[molten flame]

I was just stating facts on how their products compete, there isn't many areas where they are the #1 choice anymore like they used to be

[turbid verge]

Plus Iam pretty sure Intel has a big customer

I mean they still do manufacturer apple's silicons which even being apple's IP and intel cant do anything about it. Yet goes into everything that is branded with the apple on the back

[turbid verge]

apparently they got some lineup for 2025 afaik

mid 2025 idk

[molten flame]

Apple is about to bring out the M4 and I hear it's a big improvement

no not the M4 rifle

[lost cargo]

Their second gen gpu right?

Or their third gen. I can’t remember

[turbid verge]

yeh think so. Most likely AI focused

like every other GPU is now

since its a selling point

[lost cargo]

hopefully they actually use AI. And not be like AMD and have AI in their GPUs but barely have a use for it

[molten flame]

they pretty much ignored developing software for the AI accelerators in RDNA3, they're not real AI cores like what Nvidia has in RTX GPUs

even if they had a use, they wouldn't be fast enough anyway

they have decent AI support for their NPUs in laptops tho

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/zotac-presents-geforce-rtx-4090d-pgf-spider-man-modded-gpu

[midnight crypt]

The hell is a 4090D

[molten flame]

China variant

[coarse nimbus]

4090deeznuts?

[brave sundial]

China variant because of the US sanctions on China

Basically a slightly nerfed standard 4090

The back looks so tacky though

[molten coral]

WALL CRAWLER

[dapper saffron]

Nice

[dry pike]

I don't even think 12yo me would have liked that spiderman gfx card. So tacky 😄

[quick locust]

Apple taking ideas from Boeing

[lost cargo]

Dumbed down 4090. Slower than a normal 4090

Nvidia and EU or U.S. government or sum came to an agreement and Nvidia did that to still sell them.

All because they don’t want to sell them powerful GPUs

[real lance]

how get rid packet loss

my friend have big packet loss

[candid flame]

get better internet

[real lance]

my friend have 5g overwatch and other games work good bf 2042 not work good

[willow schooner]

Other games dont report packet loss in thew same way, so its less about you not losing packets in them, and more about other games not having useful networking logging

[dry pike]

game servers for different games are hosted in different locations, your local internet service provider can currently have issues with some locations and not other locations. It's like that for everybody and people will not have the same experience.

[lost cargo]

EZ just use NASA’s internet

[dry pike]

Speed does not equal stability though

[lost cargo]

Tru tru

[pale quartz]

2042 bandwidth requirements for uploading (constant) are much higher than overwatch and others, 5G is not reliable like fibre for constant data transmission

[cursive marten]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/10/us-copyright-office-frees-the-mcflurry-allowing-repair-of-ice-cream-machines/

i think this counts

The group, which teamed with iFixit to request the exemption last year, said the government ruling will "free the McFlurry." Public Knowledge Senior Policy Counsel Meredith Rose called the decision a victory for "franchise owners, independent repair shops, and anyone who's had to bribe their kids with a chilly treat on lengthy road trips."

The change should "spark a flurry of third-party repair activity and enable businesses to better serve their customers," Rose said. "While we are disappointed that the Register recommended a narrower exemption than we had proposed, this does not soften our enthusiasm. We will continue to chip away at half-baked laws blocking the right to repair, sprinkling consumer victories as we go. Today's win may not be parfait, but it's still pretty sweet."

The final rule adopted by Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden was based on recommendations made by Shira Perlmutter, the register of copyrights and director of the US Copyright Office. The ruling came in the ninth triennial proceeding to determine exemptions under Section 1201 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The process provides exemptions for the next three years to "the prohibition against circumvention of technological measures that effectively control access to copyrighted works."```

finally

the ice cream machines can be fixed

[pallid grotto]

Anyone who knows how to get rid of migration file from previous OS on new PC.?

(I can't use my mic cuz of that)...

Also why it have to be so complicated just to plug USB and not being able to use that device..

[pale quartz]

delete the windows.old folder

[pallid grotto]

Nowhere to be seen, also there's no Previous Windows files to delete

[sullen zealot]

i gotta tell my friend about this he spent a full year or two being the ice cream machine maintenance guy, so much so that nearby mcdonalds that don't even hire him were asking him to come train their maintenance guys

[candid flame]

bought the most dogshit "mid-tier" new then compare it with an x3d cpu and and "old" rx 7800 xt

[coarse nimbus]

why does that new mobo seem like its waaay above "mid tier"

[cursive ember]

ccan i speak to a BF mod or dev as i joined to ask one question and one question only (i will only show once one responds)

[midnight crypt]

No one will respond

[coarse nimbus]

[cursive ember]

well can u explain this problom child that only a dev would understand and why?

[coarse nimbus]

what in the karen

[cursive ember]

were do u post screenshots again

[midnight crypt]

You should be able to figure that out

[cursive ember]

one

no i do not as i just joined

two

[marsh yew]

Sorry but we are all illiterate here.

[cursive ember]

u silence mr man who tryna be toxic

[cursive ember]

not u

[coarse nimbus]

[cursive ember]

and btw what u mean by were all illiterate?

[marsh yew]

ABCD.. Y.. X.. Z

[cursive ember]

idk srry😂

i just wawnt to know were to post screeshots that all

[midnight crypt]

You're a big boy you can find it on your own

[digital hill]

and is always going to be better than a chromebook

[midnight sequoia]

It was 3x the price of a Chromebook

[digital hill]

Now

It is cheaper then a chromebook also chromebooks did not exist, netbooks existed

They were cool, everyone loved them

||Not pile of shits that should have never existed||

Though the good news is the fact netbooks are not longer copyrighted around that time because someone did copyright them but intel and other companies came together to fight against it so they can them netbooks because it was a proto-chromebook more or less

[midnight sequoia]

Since it has no cooling you can’t really use the Air for much or it’ll throttle.

[digital hill]

so, ahead of the time

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9000x3d-rumored-to-feature-reversed-ccd-and-3d-v-cache-layering

V-cache is now stacked under the CCD for better thermals

[digital hill]

It is truly over for intel

and damn their tdp is actually lower then intel somehow even more power and still cannot equal a better performance then the other gen, though I wonder if that is because they forget to set a voltage limit

[modern gull]

What is intel? Sounds like a company that would try to hide issues from it's customers and maybe even going as far as lying 🤷 This is how it should be done "We had a design flaw in Blackwell," Huang said. "It was functional, but the design flaw caused the yield to be low. It was 100% Nvidia's fault."

Nvidia situation was couple days ago i think it was, it's from a article i found

[brave sundial]

reversed?

[toxic wigeon]

@pale quartz I'm looking at getting a DSC monitor but Nvidia has issues with such a thing. Are you experiencing issues or is there something about the 40 series that makes it less annoying?

[pale quartz]

all high bandwidth monitors have dsc, the tldr is there isn't issues but you get disabled features, NIS and a few others become unable to work with dsc but otherwise it's fine

[toxic wigeon]

Alt tabbing is real cancer for my mate on his 3080 on the aw322qf something

Which is why I'm asking

[pale quartz]

just don't use excl full screen on applications and it never happens

not sure why he's using it anyways he shouldn't be

[toxic wigeon]

Game that force it.

[willow schooner]

People act like an alt tab taking 5 seconds is the end of the world. 😅

[midnight crypt]

It's not

But it's not a very smooth experience

[willow schooner]

True, but unless people go out of their way to notice it, it's not even slightly a deal breaker.

[toxic wigeon]

It's called having standards.

[willow schooner]

Letting 3/5 seconds of black screen when alt tabbing affect a purchase is a silly standard to have imo

[brave sundial]

Just get another monitor, solved

[midnight crypt]

Still does it if you're using exclusive fullscreen

[digital hill]

I know right, my second monitor was found on the curb

[brave sundial]

You still use it?

[digital hill]

I'm not lying

Yes

It is a secondary monitor

Discord shit

That is the only purpose of it

[brave sundial]

who would leave a perfectly functioning monitor outside like that

but nice

[digital hill]

People in my neighborhood, I bet that dell monitor I saw on the curb would work

[lost cargo]

It do be annoying for games don’t have fullscreen window or borderless options. At that point I window the application and fullscreen it that way. Sucks due to borders of the application still shows

[fleet berry]

Can someone please help me. Ever since the new bf 1 anticheat was dropped all of my battlefield games are all screwed and now im not able to play any of them, it keeps giving me some stupid windows error. Im so pissed off because I have so many hours on Battlefield and I spent lots of money on it and now im just not able to play any of the games. If someone can help me please dm me.

[midnight crypt]

Can't help you if you don't say what the error even is

[fleet berry]

Please launch the game from your distribution platform. If the issue persists, please repair your game and try again.

[pale quartz]

1: if you're on windows 11 this means TPM/VBS enforcement is mandatory, so enable it if it's off
2: windows 10 requires VBS to be enabled

[fleet berry]

I have windows 10

and i dont know how to do that

[midnight crypt]

google.com is your friend

[fleet berry]

did not work

[molten flame]

I may not have a degree in theoretical physics but I do have a theoretical degree in physics

[digital hill]

You have a theortical degree in physics, tell me, how does our sun work

I want sources too

[molten flame]

It just works!

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/photo-of-delidded-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-confirms-changes-to-3d-v-cache

[candid flame]

https://fxtwitter.com/Dachsjaeger/status/1850812318541554094

[midnight crypt]

What am i even supposed to see

[candid flame]

no shader compilation stutter

the future is here?

(it's just vulkan but hey )

[brave sundial]

No point of bazzite now that valve has confirmed SteamOS is coming to the ally now lol

Like actual official support

Then you can just dualboot SteamOS and windows to have the best of both worlds

I'm personally waiting for the next gen AMD Z2, rog ally 2 with official SteamOS on launch.. I'd get that

[willow schooner]

It's a dx12 to vulkan translation layer.

[digital hill]

So great for gta iv

[vernal pendant]

Windows/DX12's current state is an active hindrance to responsive, smooth gaming on PC
i've been saying this for years

[candid flame]

Vulkan is peak

Doom Eternal runs like butter on a toaster pc

[brave sundial]

Tbf that's also idtech being an amazing engine

[digital hill]

Don't ask how shitty it was with doom 3

[brave sundial]

doom 3 was like 2 decades ago

[digital hill]

True but the engine itself wasn't that good around the era

Though just remember without idtech we wouldn't have cod

I bet they still got some quake 3 code in there

Just sitting because just touching it could fuck up everything

[brave sundial]

like that one xkcd comic

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/dependency_2x.png

[digital hill]

Yep just think of windows, it still got some code from xp

But a lot of things is held up with strings, if you ever see the source your going to wonder why some ancient code exist, and find out that trying to change it causes you to open pandoras box and everything break

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKzfsBYQjqE

Nova-Lake might save them

[lost cargo]

“A M Done” is cringe

[molten flame]

[brave sundial]

It's so cringe it loops back to being funny

[molten flame]

Ultra 285K runs some games faster when you have only 1 P-core active and the other 7 disabled

[midnight crypt]

[molten flame]

Arrow-Lake CPUs have a weird core configuration where the P-cores are split apart and have E-cores between them

might explain poor performance and worse latency

also ringbus doesn't exist anymore

[brave sundial]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/inside-intel-ceo-pat-gelsinger-fumbled-revival-an-american-icon-2024-10-29/

Instead of nurturing the relationship, Gelsinger – who hopes to restore Intel’s own manufacturing prowess – offended TSMC by calling out Taiwan’s precarious relations with China. “You don't want all of your eggs in the basket of a Taiwan fab,” he said in May 2021, using industry jargon for a chip fabrication plant. That December, encouraging U.S. investment in U.S. chipmakers, he said at a tech conference: “Taiwan is not a stable place.”

In public. TSMC downplayed, with its founder calling Gelsinger“a bit rude.” Privately, TSMC said it would no longer honor the discount, the sources said: about 40% off the $23,000, 3-nanometer wafers on which TSMC would print chips for Intel. Intel had to pay full price, shrinking its profit margin on the deal

This sounds bs to me

Cancelling their wafer discount because of that comment? Not even mildly offensive

are tsmc really the type to do that, heavily doubt it

[shy star]

Likely my next case possibly with Pedestal:
How do you folks feel about it?

Thermaltake Core W200 Dual System Capable Extreme Water Cooling XL-ATX Fully Modular/Dismantle Stackable Tt Certified Super Tower Computer Case CA-1F5-00F1WN-00 Black
by Thermaltake (Personal Computers)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EGBZA1C/?coliid=IAJZMJQQ0MC2Q&colid=VU7DHHS3J40O&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

If budget allows it with:

Thermaltake Core P200 Extended Water Cooling Fully Modular/Dismantle Stackable Tt LCS Certified Pedestal CA-1F4-00D1NN-00, Black.
by Thermaltake (Personal Computers)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EGBZ9P4/?coliid=I142NS5Q2WF0YC&colid=VU7DHHS3J40O&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

[shy star]

I wil be getting the following cooler...

Corsair iCUE H170i Elite Capellix XT
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/cpu-coolers/cw-9060071-ww/icue-h170i-elite-capellix-xt-liquid-cpu-cooler

Wil it last a VERY long time?
and
Is it any good?

[molten flame]

Maybe the Taiwanese don't shrug off rude comments so easily

[pale quartz]

aios die on a span of roughly 4 years from pump failure so if you want a "very long" time you need an air cooler

[molten flame]

AIO liquid coolers have about 15 or 20 possibilities of failure

Air coolers only have to worry about one thing and that's just the fan itself, which is also a problem for AIOs

some AIOs may have a leak and you won't see it until it's turned on and there is pump pressure

AIOs require more upkeep than air coolers too, they draw in a lot more dust

[cursive ember]

Yeeeaaaahhh could have figured lmao 🤣

[shy star]

No aircooler can get the 5850x3D below 90°C, Currently have the Noctua NH-D15 with aforementioned temps.

[shy star]

Case will have dust filters

[pale quartz]

the temperature on the 5800x3d does not matter it is designed to self boost itself as high as possible

you can safely ignore it assuming it doesn't hit say 95 or higher

at the absolute worst just cap the chip using eco mode for the same thing

[shy star]

I want low temperature to be able to keep maximum boost frequencies topped out all the time.

[pale quartz]

that doesn't work the way you think

maximum boost temperatures are dictated by PBO, the voltage on the 5800x3d is capped, so there is a maximum of delta of 200mhz, effectively nothing

[shy star]

It does not go above ninety degrees C.

[pale quartz]

then there's no point bothering with changing the cooler

[shy star]

Will it always hit maximum boost frequencies with the mentioned temp?

[pale quartz]

you will not get lower temperatures with changing the cooler anyways, roughly the same with higher boost clocks, just slightly lower

[pale quartz]

you will never "always" hit the maximum boost clock because that frequency is dictated by what is running

[shy star]

Even if slightly lower I rather get aforementioned AIO.

[pale quartz]

no, you dont

because for the price of that cooler you are better off just upgrading the processor instead

[molten flame]

I probably would have been better off with 5700X3D instead of 5800X3D because ITX case and low profile cooler lol

[pale quartz]

wouldn't make a difference anyways just activate eco mode you get the same thing

[molten flame]

[shy star]

Will only run game and stream to LAN RTMP SERVER which will stream to all game related stream services.
Own my former gaming rig and Qnap for that.
Will likely even run VC softwares on other hardware then the one used for playing.

[shy star]

There are external water cooling solutions for that.

[molten flame]

no room on my desk for that lol

[pale quartz]

the price of that AIO is $300, which is just slightly less than the combined cost of a AM5 board and a 7800x3d, there is no performance delta where a 300 cooler will come close to just upgrading the platform instead

the 5800x3d and 7800x3d have about a 20-25% performance delta in single core performance between them both

[shy star]

There aren't better gaming CPU's without changing motherboard, RAM, PSU.
Had the 5950x but sold it due to claims from folks that 5850x3D wil get me higher FPS when not multitasking.

[pale quartz]

as I said once you factor in the resale value of the 5800x3d + board it's roughly going to equal about 500, which is about roughly the cost for an entire platform upgrade

you don't need a new power supply

you can get the aio but you are wasting your money doing so, it's up to you

[shy star]

Also when upgrading Mobo I want the latest gaming optimized CPU lineup AND many generations between the current and latest Gen...
Last system that I got build can even run the next ten BF games in series in 4K high FPS with high-end EVGA GTX980 AC 2.0 SC and Intel Core i7-990x overclocked CPU...
The 990x runs with NH-D14.

[pale quartz]

yeah that's not running anything

the 980 is ancient and will cap out at about 60 frames if you're lucky

990x is even weaker

[shy star]

My PSU is well over three years old and Capacitors wear thus stability could be impacted by used Power Supply Unit.

[pale quartz]

no.. power supply warranties are 5-10 years, they don't wear out after 3, and even if they do, you just return it

it is perfectly serviceable

[shy star]

Not with GEFORCENOW Ultimate which in future will likely also support 240Hz eventually.

[pale quartz]

..?

Geforce now is a streaming service

[shy star]

I can do soldering so if correct caps are available and I no longer have warranty I COULD do it myself.

[pale quartz]

.. the average time for how long a power supply lasts.. is still 5 to 10 years

[shy star]

5 - 10 years is rare but indeed does exist as warranty length, do not qoute me...not sure!

[pale quartz]

no dude it's not rare

it's every power supply that has at least a gold rating

unless this power supply is actually 10 years old and not 3 like you're alluding to

[shy star]

I agree old system is from 2011, 12 or 13.

[pale quartz]

so it's over 10 years old

[shy star]

Hardware had been changed, all hardware in that system is likely no older then ten years.

[pale quartz]

.. this is about the power supply

has the power supply been changed yes or no

[shy star]

One can nowadays play on almost any device.
They host the hardware and game, you only steam game video and controls.
With that for most people non-local servers are unplayable.

[pale quartz]

I know what Geforce now is.. that's not what I'm asking

using Geforce now isn't running games, it's streaming them

[shy star]

Yes as well in old system.
Current system is only 3 - 4 tears old.

[pale quartz]

then it is fine as I said

[shy star]

It is streaming the games running on there hardware.

[pale quartz]

you are using a cloud service

that's what it is

[shy star]

Folks can always change out PSU later because (? when not overclocking ?) it does not damage there hardware when unstable for as far as I manage to remember (correctly).

[pale quartz]

...

[shy star]

Have used it before I had a spare system able to solely run BF 2042.
I used to play the series on trough phone for a while with mouse, keyboard and controller untill RIG was reconfigured and usable again.

[pale quartz]

let's get one thing clear

you're not running anything using Geforce now, it's streaming

you have no control over what games are available and have no control over the hardware that's being used

[shy star]

I know, that is what I have been writing.
I conceptually came up with the streaming of games concept @nVidia and the nVidia shield lineup of hardware.
Since so many brands have made powerful tablets it was no longer interesting for nVidia to design mobile GPU's for handheld devices.
Thus following my opinion they went with Nintendo and automotive industry in stead.

[shy star]

The games depend upon requests from users, developers(/publishers) and requests made trough nVidia live support.
With my opinions coming from the public they integrated and released the BF Series upon GfrcNOW service.

[shy star]

The hardware is and always will be enterprise grade gaming designed and developed specific hardware.
Also something I conceptually came up with, at nVidia and Intel trough nVidia requests for hardware.
This due to upcoming streaming of games number of users.
Oppose to clients/users having powerful hardware.

[shy star]

@Likely my next case possibly with Pedestal:
How do you folks feel about it?

Thermaltake Core W200 Dual System Capable Extreme Water Cooling XL-ATX Fully Modular/Dismantle Stackable Tt Certified Super Tower Computer Case CA-1F5-00F1WN-00 Black
by Thermaltake (Personal Computers)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EGBZA1C/?coliid=IAJZMJQQ0MC2Q&colid=VU7DHHS3J40O&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

If budget allows it with:

Thermaltake Core P200 Extended Water Cooling Fully Modular/Dismantle Stackable Tt LCS Certified Pedestal CA-1F4-00D1NN-00, Black.
by Thermaltake (Personal Computers)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EGBZ9P4/?coliid=I142NS5Q2WF0YC&colid=VU7DHHS3J40O&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

It will live on the ground ofcourse!

Maybe with several pedestals so I can put my Qnap inside in the lower compartment(s).
Ofcourse IF it does not already fits inside on the right side, 90° tilted if required.

[toxic wigeon]

This guy a fucking bot?

[quick locust]

If you criticize it, apple will show you a real M4

[molten flame]

Gonna wait until the M16 comes out

Apple has access to the smallest nodes money can buy and is always first but that could change with Nvidia’s significance in the industry

Nvidia could probably end up being top priority one day

[lost cargo]

It’s all about that M♾️ 😂

[turbid verge]

https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/10/30/amd-stock-earnings-ai-stocks-ai-chip-stocks/?source=djc&utm_source=djc&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=article&referring_guid=09041341-0b86-4104-9cd7-47fd870a80ce&mod=mw_quote_news

[ivory creek]

just read that nvidia had several security flaws in their software thats fixed in their latest gameready driver

so it might be a good idea to update

[brave sundial]

https://www.androidpolice.com/oneplus-13-will-ditch-optical-fingerprint-sensor-something-better/

looking really promising

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/556205794241151021/1301158239043321926/M4vsLNL.png?ex=6723758a&is=6722240a&hm=822b4dc1a3513046350412e9bbf41668f5e192531c3fec8c989a4b978dc15fac&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

rip intel

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna4-launching-in-early-2025-lisa-su-confirms

[candid flame]

so I won't be buying a gpu now then

[brave sundial]

Will it be barely lower than Blackwell like last time?

Pricing better not be a joke again

[lost cargo]

Nvidia is quick to fix problems. I normally run vibrance at 100% on control panel. Last update broke it. They were quick to fix it in the update right after. It always reset upon PC startup back to 50%

[lost cargo]

Can it run games tho

Better than windows?

[molten flame]

it can run Crysis on C64 OS

[lost cargo]

Using a different OS

Not MacOS

[molten flame]

Gamesphere OS

[lost cargo]

Sounds like it’s for GameCube

[molten flame]

It’s not a cube

It’s spherical

[lost cargo]

I looked it up. And I’m confused 😕 can’t find it

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grtEt0Cudt8

[lost cargo]

Bruh

[pale quartz]

you will because top end RDNA4 will only match a 4090

[pale quartz]

fyi this was a total disaster for the radeon division, gaming segment is more or less dead

once this AI bubble pops discrete RDNA is in trouble

[candid flame]

it will be good

[pale quartz]

raster* btw for matching a 4090

[lost cargo]

!!when RDNA4 matches 5090

[pale quartz]

if it didn't need to get redesigned then maybe

but too late for that now

[lost cargo]

That’s prob for RDNA5

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eye-watering-RTX-5090-price-leaks-alongside-possible-January-release-date.909797.0.html mmm 🤔

[pale quartz]

January release schedule is accurate

expect the 5090/5080 about then

[lost cargo]

I do wanna see side by side performance testing from people. Of 4090 vs 5090. And wait a while after 50s get fleshed out from issues.

[pale quartz]

will backfire

5090 and 80 will be a paper launch for the first few months

[lost cargo]

Wym?

[pale quartz]

as in if you are wanting to buy plan to buy on release because prices will rise after

[lost cargo]

I see

We did see that with the 40s for standard and super variants

[pale quartz]

not for the same reason

blackwell had a defect that affected consumer chips that had to get scrapped as well as discrete, so there's going to be less supply than normal

[lost cargo]

Hopefully they can resolve the Blackwell issue then.

If possible

[brave sundial]

that sounds optimistic

[pale quartz]

it is, it'll be within a few percent but close enough

match in path tracing, don't get your hopes up

[brave sundial]

there's always a catch

[pale quartz]

the defect was resolved but chips that were produced (before) had to get canned

[lost cargo]

I see. The old batch is a goner

[small zinc]

AMD isn't targeting Nvidia High End. They haven't since RDNA 2, when the 6900 /6950 matched the 3090.

At least in Rasterization

Well specifically high binned GPU's such as the Red Devil and Sapphire Toxic which did outperform the 3090 in quite a few games. Ray Tracing, different story.

Which just means Nvidia can charge whatever they want to for the 5090 seeing as only 1% of the enthusiasts buy those anyway. Limit the stock of them, dump them straight to scalpers and break the economy again. Not going to be surprised to see 5090's going north of $3K

Going on a limb and assuming that prebuilt 5090 systems are going to be the route to go if you want to get your hands on one at anything that remotely resembles "MSRP."

Some days I still have buyers remorse for owning a 4090. Have never fully utilized it. Doubt I'll buy buying a 5090. At least until the GPU economy ever sorts itself out. Now the inevitable 9800 X3D? That I am interested in. 😄

[molten flame]

I didn’t know the defect was bad enough to affect supply, I thought they dealt with the issue almost 6 months ago

Also RDNA4 still doesn’t seem to have anything more powerful than Navi 31

Maybe just in path-tracing alone

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/china-tightens-export-controls-on-rare-earth-metals-used-for-chipmaking-country-now-requires-exporters-to-detail-how-they-use-restricted-materials

"Companies outside China, especially in sectors like semiconductors and defense, are directly impacted, as the country supplies almost the entire global market for materials like gallium and germanium."

[toxic wigeon]

I had a dream that my 3080 died and so I bought a 4070ti s.

[willow schooner]

Jenseption

[molten flame]

nightmare

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

[toxic wigeon]

HE WAS IN MY DREAMS

I REMMEBER

I really regretted my purchase

[brave sundial]

[toxic wigeon]

And was thinking of refunding it for a fucking 1030 until the 5090 LMAO

I was thinking

"Hey at least this draws less power"

[quick locust]

Jensen always wins even in your dreams

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-KSUt4F7ZY

10th gen Intel CPUs goated

[quick locust]

Skylake

[sullen zealot]

The cycle never ends

[candid flame]

do you need any other reason to switch from intel to an x3d cpu besides "games go zoom"?

[midnight crypt]

Better 1% lows and faster in some productivity tasks

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-now-official-oc-support-20-faster-than-core-ultra-9-285k

[candid flame]

shieeeeet

next month

[molten flame]

it can overclock around 5.5 to 5.6 GHz on all cores which would make it up to 20% faster than 7800X3D

[pale quartz]

no, it wouldnt

[molten flame]

new V-cache allows PBO to push further than previous X3D generations

it's faster than a overclocked 9700X in multi-thread workloads

[pale quartz]

yeah that doesnt matter

its not going to be 20% faster than a 7800x3d because its not bound by single core clocks its bound by memory and the IOD is the exact same

at max its going to be a 2-3% differential, not over 2x the average

[molten flame]

game dependant as expected

[pale quartz]

they are marketing slides lol

[midnight crypt]

We will see when real benchmarks drop

[molten flame]

1080p lowest settings

[dry pike]

I kinda want one, but probably not worth dropping my 7900x for

[candid flame]

price's lower than what my local store is selling the 7800x3d

[dry pike]

With EU price increase and then Denmark price increase I'm sure it will cost quite a bit

[toxic wigeon]

Give me procesosr

Hnng hnng hnng

[candid flame]

maybe the 7800x3d will lower in price once this new one gets released

[toxic wigeon]

It'll be hilarious if I nabbed a 9800x3d during my trip here.

@pale quartz what does the 9800x3d have that the 7800x3d doesn't have?

Or is it just simply a cpu on a different architecture.

[molten flame]

just different V-cache layout, same amount

biggest change is Zen 5 architecture and ~500 MHz higher clocks

[pale quartz]

the same things that regular zen 5 has, much faster avx512 acceleration and other things not relevant to gamers, only things that are "relevant" are a slightly higher clock speed and thats about it

should you buy it? not particularly unless youre on zen 3 or under

[molten flame]

price gonna shoot above MSRP right after launch too

[pale quartz]

itll just be out of stock

[molten flame]

RDNA4 gonna sell worse than RDNA3

if RDNA5 doesn't compete with Nvidia in high-end then AMD might pull out of discrete market within a few more generations lol

[pale quartz]

they dont care about the discrete market anyways

the only reason they release discrete cards is because server and console exist

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-9900x-drops-to-382-now-116-30-cheaper-than-two-months-ago#disqus_thread

Demand for 9900X is very low lol

having dual 6-core CCDs is like a handicap for gaming

practically like sticking two binned 9600X together but with a latency penalty

[lofty light]

Sounds like it’d be good for a server though

Maybe I’ll pick one of those up in a couple years to replace my x99 server

[digital basin]

i got a intel i9 14900HX dueled with RTX 4060 (laptop gpu, trust me im the travelling guy in the family) with 16gb ram DDR5, anything to upgrade? also 1tb storage(500 gb left)

[lofty light]

I mean it’s a laptop there’s not much you can do

The memory is the only thing I’d be upgrading if it’s not soldered on and you’re using it all

[midnight crypt]

Imagine if it's single channel

[brave sundial]

that would be really odd

[molten flame]

Imagine soldered single-channel without extra slot

[quick locust]

My NAS only supports single channel

My previous laptop as well

[molten flame]

those early Zen/Zen+ laptops with only single-channel support were pretty awful

iGPUs were bottlenecked

Ryzen laptops weren't really a viable option until 4000 series came out

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/468358707890094081/1302341787041665145/7x3E5XT.png?ex=6727c3ce&is=6726724e&hm=9b141304bf7096601ee70372f3ca1d7d71fc58f57df84acd2c176e991340b13e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Apple M4 Max is faster than every X86 desktop CPU

and it's just a mobile chip

[brave sundial]

qualcomm and Intel caught lacking

[willow schooner]

Apples chip performance is purely academic to me. As I am not in, and have no plan to enter their ecosystem.

[lost cargo]

Can it run crysis on the default OS aka MacOS tho at max settings

If you have to use a different OS, your cheating

[lost cargo]

I saw this

[candid flame]

that's dookie

[lost cargo]

3070 equivalent with no rdna 3/4

[modern gull]

Wonder if current gen will last 4 more years like ps4 pro until next gen consoles. Series S already last gen kind of

[lost cargo]

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-wrx90-motherboard-manual-hints-at-3d-v-cache-for-threadripper-cpus

Threadripper V-cache

[toxic wigeon]

9995x3d.

[modern gull]

Anyone know how to fix this? I never had this issue before

[digital hill]

Turn off your cheats

but seriously, just restart your pc and see if it launches

[modern gull]

Just got vpn

[digital hill]

Wait is that on

[modern gull]

Ya ya

[digital hill]

Turn off that VPN

[modern gull]

Desktop app so...... can't even have vpn. I'll see if restart helps actually, not to blame too soon

[digital hill]

If your connected, then it could be to blame

They usually block the IPS so some cheater doesn't make a shitload of alts

[digital hill]

Alright try to restart

[lost cargo]

I normally task manager, force close EA background services. Then open EA app like normal then run the game

[modern gull]

Restart worked

[digital hill]

Ah

It is like my advice in FNB actually works, just turn it off and on again

[lost cargo]

That’s most things

[modern gull]

Now to see ping and latency

[digital hill]

True, like internet routers, always somehow go down and you have to unplug it and plug it back in to fix it

[modern gull]

Probably get banned by HWID anyway, unless spoofed or what not 🤷

[digital hill]

Eeh, they still just ban the account as it is easier

and cheaper

[modern gull]

Account is like most basic thing though

Like minimal

[lost cargo]

And it makes the WiFi abit better. Normally people let their router run for days. A off/on helps refresh.

[digital hill]

Routers are meant to run for days

[pale quartz]

that's not true, you absolutely should never "disconnect" your router unless you have an explicit reason

[lost cargo]

I let mine run for a week or 2 before i do a on/off

[digital hill]

Deco just said it is a bad idea

Unless the router decides to go down for some reason, then you can turn it off and on again

Like if it decides to just not let your pc connect, then that is the time to turn it off and on again

[lost cargo]

Mmm 🤔

Never had that issue

[digital hill]

Though if you ever wanted a cheap reliable 12v power supply, then buying someone useless router is great

Make sure to ask if the psu is in

[modern gull]

vpn seems nice though, good speed

[prime jasper]

idk if this is on topic, but why tf any time i link a steam game its in russian on discord, but when i look at my settings its never been touched and its still in english? im so confused

[velvet hound]

Hello is there anyone the could help me out with my game. I can’t post pictures in here. For whatever reason my game decides it wants to get really bright and have very bad lighting affects that cause the screen to be full white, green, blue or red at random times.

[quaint kestrel]

Gpu issue

Try reseating your gpu

[velvet hound]

I’m on PlayStation

[quaint kestrel]

and update drivers and or do DDU and fresh install the drivers

[quaint kestrel]

Rip then

Maybe display port is fucked

Tried different display connections?

[velvet hound]

What are those?

[quaint kestrel]

Like different cable?

And you could try a diff monitor aswell

[velvet hound]

The problem is that it only happens on battlefield but not any other game

[quaint kestrel]

Weird

Try verifying gamefiles or reinstalling in that case

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/556205794241151021/1303360350141288549/IMG_5123.png?ex=672b786a&is=672a26ea&hm=3ef984416782742bac47ec35042d9d4b8f6cb51ffedc4a813283070390786fed&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

9800X3D has a major advantage in 1% and 0.1% lows, smoother gameplay

[candid flame]

[midnight crypt]

"major"

[molten flame]

yes as having higher 1% and 0.1% lows means less stuttery gameplay

[midnight crypt]

I know that

[brave sundial]

Good to see

[wooden creek]

So having swapped so that pc is now actually using the gpu, is there any reason this would suddenly prevent my pc from actually loading games?

Resetting the pc just makes it flip flop between being completely unable to open any gaming related things or getting stuck in a loading screen for eternity

[candid flame]

hmm reinstall the gpu driver maybe?

[wooden creek]

Hmm I’ll definitely try that when I get home

[pale quartz]

x3d part had higher 1% lows than the non x3d part nobody is surprised at all

[quick locust]

providing up to an average 8% gaming performance improvement compared to our last-gen generation1 and up to an average 20% faster than the competition2. This revolutionary change in placement allows for extreme overclocking of the processor3. It's the first X3D processor to be fully unlocked, empowering enthusiasts and gamers to push its performance to new limits.

While the generational uplift in average FPS is about 8%, many games such as Star Wars Outlaws will experience double-digit percentage improvements generationally4. What’s more, the Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor can demonstrate substantial generational improvements in minimum frame rates even when average frame rates are similar, providing the user with an experience that feels smoother, with less stutter – for instance, in The Last Of Us: Part 1, where the Ryzen 7 9800X3D has a similar average frame rate compared to the competition, but a 31% higher 1% low frame rate5

AMDs numbers

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-lFgbzU3LY

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WFR_IrWhmdbI7IcxpZq8eercxLhLlnymg8NpukuNJE8/https/i.imgur.com/25q250i.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1168&height=671

[pale quartz]

tldr it's phenomenal and lifts the CPU bottleneck the 4090 has on some of these games

[molten flame]

yeah only a reasonable CPU to have for 4090 owners

and future 5080/5090 owners

[pale quartz]

definitely not, it's very good for a 4080 aswell

[molten flame]

the boost all-core clockspeed is not only 400-500 MHz higher than the 7800X3D, but it also stays consistent, no drops or spikes at all

the cache redesign helped so much

[candid flame]

threadripper x3d when

[brave sundial]

That's heavily rumoured isn't it?

[terse glade]

I upgraded my cpu finally from my 3800x to a 5700x3d

Now I need new gpu soon but i wait for 50s series

[molten flame]

https://www.pcguide.com/news/new-ps5-pro-benchmarks-show-it-falling-behind-the-rx-6800-a-4-year-old-gpu-thats-half-the-price/

despite having RDNA 3+ architecture and RDNA 4 based ray-tracing, the desktop Radeon RX 6800 is still faster

[cursive marten]

good to know

[ivory creek]

When will elden ring get dlss

C'mon

[brave sundial]

Is the cpu they paired with the 6800 a zen 2 one?

[midnight crypt]

Just mod in dlss

It's not hard

[brave sundial]

the fsr mods are pretty cool too

[pale quartz]

its not equivalent to the rx 6800, it is in rasterisation, but its far better for RT performance, comparing console with desktop parts is mostly a flawed technique

[molten flame]

games are typically best optimized on console thanks to simplicity and not having mixed up hardware like PCs

[pale quartz]

ehh

not exactly

[molten flame]

also lots of triple A game studios use consoles to develop the games and they are ported to PC

[lost cargo]

https://x.com/n3wis/status/1854185484643090713?s=46

Newis (@N3WiS) on X

Digital Foundry confirms:
PS5 Pro ZEN 2 CPU is not enough for 60 FPS gaming like BG3 which runs only couple of frames better and won't fix those problems. Current PC CPUs are twice as fast.

@Septic_Sauce @Colteastwood @OhNoItsAlexx @JAAY_ROCK_ @PostUp_SOG

Twitter · Nov 6, 2024, 3:34 PM

[brave sundial]

huh, isn't it the opposite

[lost cargo]

Digital foundry isn’t wrong tho

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/tech-bad-batch-tech-bad-batch-i-thought-it-was-obvious-well-i-thought-it-was-obvious-gif-26624939

[lost cargo]

Same here

[molten flame]

Zen 2 was not very good for gaming due to the split apart CCX design. Remember the Ryzen 7 3800X was over 10% slower than i9-9900K in games, despite being equal/faster in things outside of gaming?

I'm gonna hold onto my 5800X3D until AM6 socket, unless Zen 6 is 100% confirmed to be on AM5

[pale quartz]

it's not

[molten flame]

oof

Zen 6 will probably have DDR6 then

[brave sundial]

Zen 6, with ddr6, supporting pcie gen 6

666

[willow schooner]

Which studios, because this is a thing that doesnt happen often at all.

[terse glade]

Same

[terse glade]

I thought about maybe not wait and get a 7800xt now looking at those prices for under 500euro. Is there any AMD card manufacturer to avoid? I thought about getting an Acer or Sapphire card

[pale quartz]

you want a working card avoid RDNA3 entirely, buy whatever the nvidia competitor is

alternatively wait till january when blackwell is announced and so is rdna4

[terse glade]

Ok I will do wait then ofc. No need to rush it. Is there a obvious reason why you say to avoid rdna3 entirely?

[lost cargo]

Maybe cuz rdna 4 is better

[terse glade]

https://youtu.be/tdu1tP5N7_s?si=pZNffH4Z35o_KAAZ

This would be indeed a suprise

[pale quartz]

the architecture has inherit hardware defect issues such as not being able to record 1080p AV1 video correctly and high idle power due to its chiplet design, its essentially just unstable to use as a product

[terse glade]

Ok got it. Cool thing is, AMD focuses on budget cards so next gen will be really worth it to upgrade then

For me at least

I need more vram lol

[dry pike]

AMD might have a bug with AV1 encoding and have higher idle power usage. Nvidia just focuses on too expensive products and trying to trick you with their product skews and prices to buy an even worse card that is too expensive and will have to be replaced soon.

GPU market really need some competition.

[brave sundial]

What about In-

[dry pike]

They are trying. Just need more competitive products and I would gladly buy one.

[candid flame]

that government bailout is saving Grandma

[plucky token]

hmmm

got lucky and got a 9800x3d

sold out within seconds to end up on ebay

[ivory creek]

gratz

Im going to stay with my 5800x3d for a while longer tho, its a good match to my 3090

[plucky token]

Using a i9 9900k atm

And one of the temp sensors on cpu is deadge

So it clocks up and down how it wants

[coral osprey]

I got ps5

It runs Fortnite pretty good

[molten bramble]

Anyone else big on Neo4j?

[dry pike]

the graph database?

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/222060964319723521/1304081523850350643/mdi9ohmfcgzd1.png?ex=672e180f&is=672cc68f&hm=610236bbaaee78a86d7341414d041f5fcfd6901a528b039fdc4219bd43c5065e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

1500 fps lol

https://www.pcguide.com/news/9800x3d-hits-1500-fps-during-valorant-gameplay-with-help-from-extreme-6-9-ghz-overclock/

LN2 beast

https://www.techspot.com/news/105473-amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-cpu-benchmark-leaked-expected.html

[coarse nimbus]

someone actually played something while on ln2?

finally..not just running a benchmark, still a dumb way to cool imo

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/222060964319723521/1304187885536415805/IMG_3669.png?ex=672e7b1e&is=672d299e&hm=f059657416bda4ec0706af0bb0dd740e79274f76f0727d35a6d90496aec5e679&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=513&height=670

MSI just did over 7.2 GHz

holyyy

[cursive marten]

damn

that's pretty fast

[lost cargo]

5090 with that cpu and mobo is finna be wild

[terse glade]

Ok I bought new ram and upgrade my ram from 2666 no name brand (unclear cl) to corsair vengeance 3200mhz 16cl ddr4 ram. And because it's so crazy cheap I bought 64gb of it

[cursive marten]

I'm told that the 9950x3d was able to get over 100 FPS on a Star Citizen map.

[molten flame]

200 fps*

[cursive marten]

The FPS number I heard was like 109 or something

[molten flame]

9950X3D has some kind of feature

[turbid verge]

for a not optimized sack of bugs and broken mechanics of a game. That's somehow impressive

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awz_CG2320E

[cursive marten]

very

[molten flame]

7600X3D is the most efficient gaming CPU by far

[cursive marten]

which means it'll be very good on anything actually decent

[molten flame]

my friend with 13600K says he already gets 100+ fps

[lost cargo]

So it’s nothing new then

https://youtu.be/s-lFgbzU3LY?si=4KQNVMg9SLTPHGQa

Mmm 🤔

[candid flame]

100+ fps when you stand still and stare at the sky

[molten flame]

Nvidia is supposedly preparing an ARM based APU for Windows gaming

[midnight crypt]

Im not sure many still benchmark with still scenes

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/556205794241151021/1304637192274182144/GbxMZHeaQAAytEQ.png?ex=67301d91&is=672ecc11&hm=43b47e585b983ceb5c7a8e318062ad0b54b68b52520247f8599559d2b488e9aa&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=391&height=671

[molten flame]

https://www.techspot.com/news/105490-amd-now-commands-287-consumer-desktop-cpu-market.html

28.7% marketshare this year, up from 19.2% last year

growing fast

[midnight crypt]

If only their gpus were better

[lost cargo]

Prob when Rtx 9090 drops

[molten flame]

https://hothardware.com/news/exclusive-intel-promises-arrow-lake-fixes

Arrow-Lake isn't over yet, they got updates to improve performance soon

[midnight crypt]

Surely

[lost cargo]

And

[molten flame]

says in the coming weeks

no hint on the potential gains but he said they are "significant"

[lost cargo]

AMD best cpu and Nvidia RTX best GPU

[lost cargo]

Mmm 🤔 I wonder how big he talking. We have to wait and find out

Unless it gets leaked early

[molten flame]

probably not double digit tbh

[brave sundial]

They need to grow in mobile

Pump out alot more to compete with Intel

They don't even need to improve them, they're very good

[lost cargo]

They need to compete against snapdragon

[molten flame]

not enough Ryzen laptops being produced tbh

I remember when Ryzen 6000 laptops came out and they were very competitive with Intel and had much better efficiency, but you could hardly find them anywhere

[gaunt mulch]

hey is someone familiar with midi devices and is handy with windows 11 and computers? i need some help with some advanced setups

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCOJ3iFCWcU

45 games

[pale quartz]

no, they dont

it's not in AMDs interest to compete in market share, this isn't how that works, the less supply there is, the higher the ASP is per unit and the more money they make

[pale quartz]

what are you trying to do?

[pale quartz]

the reason is because discrete is just more profitable than laptop ones, supply 90% goes there instead of laptops

[brave sundial]

I mean yeah but prebuilts and mobile are a huge market.

So it's more financially beneficial for AMD to stay how they are?

[pale quartz]

yes, prebuilts and mobile are less profitable because the market is dominated by juggernauts and AMD has to provide discounts for bulk purchases, they provide bulk revenue similar to the console market, but they're nowhere near as profitable as just selling them directly to consumers

SIGs and AIBs are able to command cheaper prices because they buy thousands/tens of thousands at a time

[candid flame]

saying the 9800x3d is for 1080p low setting gaming is reaching near userbenchmark's level of stupid

[cursive marten]

????

[brave sundial]

https://9to5google.com/2024/11/08/google-tensor-pixel-overheating-leaked-documents/

surely the pixel 10 will fix the overheating problems, right?

[ivory creek]

doesnt the exynos chips in EU s24 other than ultra also overheat have worse batterylife and have way worse performance compared to the snapdragon version you get in the US

[brave sundial]

It's less worse than before, but yeah still a downgrade compared to the SD one

[willow schooner]

The GPU is worse features wise also. Like for example if you're running android emulators, a snapdragon is a must. Especially since you can install custom and updated drivers.

[brave sundial]

8 elite emulation performance going to be interesting

[gaunt mulch]

trying to use my Akai apc40 mk2 to be able to be used as a adding for windows but also able to be used to use for OBS

[pale quartz]

https://github.com/cpyarger/obs-midi

obs doesn't support MIDI devices by itself

[gaunt mulch]

yeah i got the obs part working i just want like something soo i can push a button and it opens discord for example

[terse glade]

My 3200mhz 16cl ram arrived and oh man that's quiet an improvement from 2666mhz

Also I upgraded directly to 64gb ram because such a good discount i couldn't say no lol

[molten flame]

https://www.404media.co/police-freak-out-at-iphones-mysteriously-rebooting-themselves-locking-cops-out/

Apple sure does keep security as priority

[pastel field]

hmm

[brave sundial]

Not in China though

But I hope google copies some of it and enforces it in aosp

[vernal pendant]

new denial of service just dropped

eagerly awaiting the zero-interaction "reboot everyone around you" exploit

[molten flame]

https://fixupx.com/tomshardware/status/1855685274291839487

[cursive marten]

thanks for nothing, UserBenchmark.

honestly if i were to build a new PC, heaven willing, i'd probably go for a 7800x3d anyway, would probably be mostly as good as the 9800x3d.

considering i'm only running 1080p anyway, shouldn't be that big of a deal.

[pale quartz]

nope exact opposite

1080p the average is 11% between both and about 15% for 1% lows, more or less a generational difference

ive got mine on order waiting for it to arrive

[terse glade]

[quick locust]

Who needs it when you got 8700K

[brave sundial]

who needs it when you got a 5800X

[pale quartz]

[toxic wigeon]

It lives on

[cursive marten]

...I'm gonna be real dude, I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

[pale quartz]

?

[cursive marten]

could you put that in terms i could actually understand.

[pale quartz]

1080p is a CPU limited resolution, not GPU

[cursive marten]

...So, are you saying the 9800x3d would be better for 1080p?

[pale quartz]

yes

if it's 1440p/4k the gap between the 7800x3d is smaller, they are bigger at 1080p

[cursive marten]

I see.

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZDvfg-4ncg

[terse glade]

[clear storm]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Pn-VR3RWkn0

[molten flame]

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1856119249439269148

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

Valve just announced a new $679 white Steam Deck OLED model. I wish this was a Steam Deck 2 instead because I really like this paint job https://t.co/0CdthejLM6

Twitter · Nov 11, 2024, 11:38 PM

expensive

[vernal pendant]

not really? consoles start at like $500 now

[cursive marten]

I mean that's only like $20 more than the 1TB OLED model.

the price difference really isn't that much at all

the difference is you get a white one

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/222060964319723521/1305719956033245205/Screenshot_2024-11-11_202448.png?ex=67340df8&is=6732bc78&hm=d3649226fc77457e9f50153bb32ef947856811dd620ff3de25842f9e2e300294&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1196&height=671

9800X3D is much faster in some games at 4K

[willow schooner]

Games previously CPU bottlenecked most likely. I'd love to see average GPU usage added to benchmarks like these. Would tell a fuller story as to the performance deltas

[dry pike]

I guess 2042 would actually be a good title to test the 9800xd with

It really likes a few fast cores

[dapper saffron]

next hogwarts in uev will be awesome to see 🙌

[lost cargo]

UE5 isn’t meant for all games

[candid flame]

the new half-life borealis project looks like dogshit on ue5

[dapper saffron]

I am only talking about hogwarts legacy part ii

its a stunning game on ueiv and they can do more with uev in visuals

[coarse nimbus]

false, us5 is the bestest ever and we need to use it for everything from fps to moba to mmo to card games

[candid flame]

[coarse nimbus]

you know those people exist

[brave sundial]

Once Human actually surprised me

Runs pretty good on UE5 and looks gorgeous

Huge open world survival game

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nltPSV3GcFE

finally

GFE is gone

[brave sundial]

They still required login up till now?

[coarse nimbus]

thats the only way i knew i forgot what password i used

[candid flame]

of course, we have one right in here

[midnight crypt]

You didn't have to use GFE

But it is certainly more convenient than having to manually download drivers

[coarse nimbus]

are you outing yourself?

[candid flame]

I'm a proud anti-ue consoomer

[brave sundial]

same

proprietary engine enjoyer

[candid flame]

I mean props to the dev team for pushing some technological advancement but their business model and the way other dev teams abuse it just make it a shit engine

[dapper saffron]

I also love decima engine and cry engine but it is not common

kingdom come deliverance ii is using cry engine

[lost cargo]

https://youtu.be/Gjxd3NkNzpo?si=2MRPlgGRWEQY72fp

[brave sundial]

Not colteastwood

[lost cargo]

He popped up in the feed. But AMD tho

[brave sundial]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/an-sk-hynix-employee-printed-out-4-000-pages-of-confidential-info-and-carried-it-out-the-door-in-shopping-bags-before-leaving-for-their-new-job-at-huawei/

[lost cargo]

[digital hill]

Ah now they can rip off a simple ram chip

Like while espionage is terrible isn’t Hynix known for ram and stuff

[brave sundial]

https://www.techpowerup.com/328680/samsungs-second-gen-3-nm-gaa-process-shows-20-yields-missing-production-goals

20% yield is awful

S25 supposedly will be all SD too , probably why.

[molten flame]

yeah I got a Galaxy A55 for work because it was pretty cheap, it's pretty awful though, almost was late to work because it took 2-3 minutes to finally discover my work's wifi network

might go back to using iPhone for work tbh

[steel sparrow]

Good fun on the Jackal Crow Twitch Stream tonight

https://clips.twitch.tv/UnusualLuckySandwichJKanStyle-1h09p5r8YZp7AuGH #battlefield-legacy-titles2042 #twitchstream

[candid flame]

no

[coarse nimbus]

what ever you do, dont search that name and watch the first video that pops up

[candid flame]

[brave sundial]

[dry pike]

I don't know what you are on about but I'm just gonna replace it with something else terrible just to be safe

[digital hill]

With one simple trick you can send them back to the Stone Age

[brave sundial]

damn I was going to share that but I forgot to

but UB is so pathetic

[molten flame]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-am5-socket-burns-out-both-physically-damaged/

User error

[cursive marten]

unlucky

[coarse nimbus]

more like user benchmarks vindicated

[digital hill]

Agreed

Oh yeah, let me check

[brave sundial]

shame, will have to wait until next year for a replacement

[digital hill]

@coarse nimbus User error

[coarse nimbus]

pins folded over? what am i looking at

[digital hill]

A user error

From the article

This is the redditor motherboard and well, you can tell user error

[molten flame]

Some Ryzen 7000 series CPUs were burning because of high-end ASUS X670 motherboards demanding too much voltage, which was fixed with BIOS update

which was like 2 years ago

LGA pins are so fragile

[lost cargo]

https://x.com/wccftech/status/1856742669709423051?s=46

Wccftech (@wccftech) on X

The PlayStation 5 Pro Game Boost feature isn't delivering the 45% improvements promised before launch likely due to memory bandwidth constraints. https://t.co/xwNUDKTpgd

Twitter · Nov 13, 2024, 4:55 PM

https://x.com/videocardz/status/1856814851823214662?s=46

VideoCardz.com (@VideoCardz) on X

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D burns out for unlucky Redditor: socket defect or user error suspected
https://t.co/oTLoscOoy4

Twitter · Nov 13, 2024, 9:42 PM

[molten flame]

Sony could have waited for GDDR7 availability imo

256-bit GDDR6 is too slow for such a powerful iGPU

[lost cargo]

If they upgraded the cpu. It could’ve been a performance boost for the pro

[coarse nimbus]

sounds like a profit loss

[river vale]

£700 for a wifi router... might as well get a PC if £700 is new new going rate for consoles... just think £1400 before paying yearly for the online sub... isn't it like £120 a year now call is 6-8 years for each combined, £2120-2360 and thats without pads, head sets etc

[molten flame]

PS5 Pro being bandwidth limited is almost expected. 256-bit bandwidth leading to 448GB/s throughput is a hard bottleneck. Even the 4 year old Xbox Series X has a 320-bit interface @ 560GB/s.

Sony is a joke

I will never buy a Playstation

[river vale]

I will never buy a console these days

not sure what they're playing at these days thouhg, they pitch them as next gen, but most games are 720p upscalled and now I guess with frame gen being a thing, that will be used more

[quick locust]

I meaaan PC games do that now too

[pale quartz]

yes and no

consoles native internal resolution is dynamic not static, roughly about 600-900p, but it can scale down to 480p on occasion, the upscaled resolution is then 1080/1440 and 4k on exception, the internal render resolution for PCs is higher because they don't have that sort of dynamic flexibility* unless explicitly integrated

[molten flame]

why is 4090 only 10% faster than 4080S

[lost cargo]

Super is better than base edition

Where my 4090 super. O wait. That’s 5090

[molten flame]

4090 still at least 25-30% faster than 4080S by average

[lost cargo]

Can be faster

[quick locust]

its from nvidia themselves

nvidia skill issue

[lost cargo]

It looks like stalker 2 is demanding

4k max settings

[quick locust]

time to use FSR performance at 1080p

[molten flame]

4090 is really in a league of its own

4080 Super isn't close

[lost cargo]

Can be faster if they released a super variant of it

[digital hill]

What now

[dry pike]

Cables. Cables are the future. The Cat 8 running to my PCMR machine has 0% downtime.

[lost cargo]

Phill Spencer said this

Prob responding to this

[river vale]

that's just stalker... the first one was like that, I'm sure that was the start of unoptimised games

[willow schooner]

They weren't able to grow it with a 300 dollar console and essentially free games subscription either.

As soon as they stopped the 1 dollar game pass sub their growth stopped. Had to spend 70b on activision for COD to have their share grow again. That is the kind of behavior that isn't sustainable in this market.

[brave sundial]

this is why ryan(when he was PS head at the time) stated they will not do PS first party day one on the new PS+

It's simply unsustainable

I would like to see the metrics for gamepass after BO6's honeymoon phase ends

[midnight crypt]

Infinite growth is never sustainable

[brave sundial]

tell the shareholders that

[coarse nimbus]

🔺 youre not thinking correctly, can i interest you in a MLM investment though?

[lofty light]

I look at this and question why people say the 7900xtx is a bad buy when it’s significantly cheaper than a 4080 here

[cursive marten]

because AMD GPU bad or some shit i donno

[candid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[midnight crypt]

Efficiency wise it's really bad

But it does pump out some decent fps

[pale quartz]

architecture defect issues aside, its just a GPU that will age very poorly because its performance falls off a cliff involving any form of hard RT such as BVH, a 4080 doesnt, so unless its like 40-50% cheaper its not worth it

that graph is just raw rasterisation, thats all

[terse glade]

they better fix everything for rdna4

especially idle power draw

[molten flame]

not happening

AMD: you will have 50W when idle and like it

https://youtu.be/qY0kEB-1MIc?si=yUtB2yOoEaYfsYoJ

[candid flame]

lol @ that guy who broke his 9800x3d because he jammed his cpu in the wrong way and got gamernexus to pay for his dead cpu

[terse glade]

and i thought i am clumsy

[dry pike]

more dumbass, less clumsy 😄

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linus-drop-linustechtips-linusdroptips-drop-gif-24524203

[ivory creek]

Good ol Linus Drop Tips

[toxic wigeon]

Oh man

Wearing earbuds for 3 weeks makes me miss my earphones so fucking much holy shit.

Putting these on.

They're so soft

[hybrid jolt]

Hello

Does anyone know how to fix lag in this game? No other game can

[dry pike]

Step 1 is always. Always. It doesn't matter that all other games work fine. Remove power from your gaming device, router, modem and all networking equipment, wait 5 minutes, turn stuff back on.

[brave sundial]

https://youtu.be/3djp0X1yNio

1% lows better than Intel's average

[lost cargo]

https://wccftech.com/roundup/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090/

Mmm 🤔

[coarse nimbus]

https://youtube.com/shorts/7i46CL591X0?si=ykhwXYe3F85eLm5D how accurate will this be concerning the 5090? (warning turn down the volume)

[lost cargo]

https://x.com/videocardz/status/1857328304207872467?s=46

VideoCardz.com (@VideoCardz) on X

Corsair confirms 12V-2X6 power connector and 450W+ for next-gen (NVIDIA RTX 50) GPUs
https://t.co/IhlKPtzSAm

Twitter · Nov 15, 2024, 7:42 AM

https://x.com/videocardz/status/1857335737298845755?s=46

VideoCardz.com (@VideoCardz) on X

Gigabyte launches Radeon PRO W7800 AI TOP with 48GB memory and 384-bit bus
https://t.co/2XOtFYYFQ6

Twitter · Nov 15, 2024, 8:12 AM

[woeful gulch]

So i got bf2042, i meet the requirments i got i5 12th gen 12450h and rtx 4050 and 8gb ram but i still lag?

[lost cargo]

8 gb ram

16GB ram is the standard for gaming

[midnight crypt]

single channel 8gb of ram

[woeful gulch]

well i thought i could still run it since it says in minimum 8gb ram, well gotta buy another 8gb ram

[lost cargo]

Always try to aim for recommend specs.

Minimum specs is bare minimum. I never look after that.

But ram nowadays for games is 16GB as the standard. 8gb ram was the standard 5-10 years ago.

Also a 4050 sheesh

Performance is wack on that thing

60 is much better for gaming over 50. 70 is a good card for gaming in general

[woeful gulch]

well tbh 40 fps is smooth to me ngl since im used playing games on 40-30 fps from my previous laptop with no graphics card

(3rd world country)

[midnight crypt]

Laptops are a terrible deal always

You basically never get full powered hardware

[lost cargo]

^

[woeful gulch]

im not looking for 100 fps on games just 40-50 if fine enough and plus i got no where to put if i get a desktop

[brave sundial]

rtx4050 is not good, especially the mobile variant

[woeful gulch]

it does not bring 100 fps?

[lost cargo]

We are saying your laptop. And the specs is not good in general for gaming

Especially for 2042

[woeful gulch]

really? im enjoying bf1 and 5 and borderlands 3

i guess western have high standards?

[lost cargo]

Not even western. It’s in general

Anyone one else don’t look after those specs.

Across the board

[woeful gulch]

i mean if u came from having a laptop with no graphics card to a new one with a graphics card im already happy about it

i check on yt the excat laptop of mine, it can run cyberpunk 2077 not 100 fps though but dang that made me happy enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt1joq_1A18&t=775s