technology

[quick locust]

Subscription required to use gpu, but you get GFN as a bonus

Yaaay

[digital hill]

You can only lease it

[quick locust]

Drivers come with McAffee

[digital hill]

oh no you need mcaffee to use the gpu

Have fun trying to game when it states the exe has a trojan horse even if you installed it on steam

[quick locust]

The gpu will reserve a square on your monitor for ads

[digital hill]

Nah man

When your loading waiting to go in-game, your getting all the ads

and also it is artifical because it already loaded

your watching the ads

[quick locust]

[coarse nimbus]

It was a question

[prime jasper]

my 4070 ti oc is 12 gb, so yes

i think that's the 4070 default

to answer your original question that is apparently like, 3 hours old

lol

[vast valley]

I really wish the monitor i want comes down in price significantly

[molten coral]

same

i don't want to spent 1500

[toxic wigeon]

Wait I thought these new intel processors were laptop processors.

Like those really weird ultra processors.

[willow schooner]

No, intel just changed their naming scheme

[digital hill]

To something even more awful

Like what the fuck is the naming scheme now the original was simple you got the atom which was really low powered cores, pentium I dunno maybe desktop and mobile chips a bit more powered then atom and i3 for power efficient and a bit light weight gaming, i5 for you want to game but you want power to performance, i7 you want performance only and more, i9 you really want to game and need also a shitload of power

[pale quartz]

the original was not better

they changed it because it became a total mess with laptop SKUs and the i contention number meant nothing anymore

"a i5 means x" hasnt been true for some 5 odd years, its a outdated and incorrect view

[dry pike]

only hurt their customers and the world, their bottom line doesn't care cause it isn't affected

[native aurora]

we should all go back to ventrilo

[molten flame]

Zen 5%
Arrow Lake -2.85%
RTX $5090

2024 PC market is wild

[native aurora]

console wins again

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-teased-with-5-2-ghz-all-core-clock

400 MHz higher all-core clock than 7800X3D

[cursive marten]

...good?

[quick locust]

Console cpus are slower than desktop zen 2 from 2019

[quick locust]

i5 i7 etc were just arbitrary segmentation within a generation, they didnt really mean anything

[molten flame]

Zen 2 but very low cache and clocked low to the point it's as slow as desktop Zen+ 2700X

[quick locust]

Also less FPU

And with high latency memory

[molten flame]

GDDR6 is slow when used as system RAM

[quick locust]

At least its not Jaguar

[molten flame]

[quick locust]

[quick locust]

They're the same architecture

[molten flame]

rumors says next-gen Xbox and PS6 uses Zen 6 at the least, as well as RDNA5 or 5.5/6

[quick locust]

For the cpu cores themselves anyway

[quick locust]

Hope they wont make another XSS

[molten flame]

Intel could compete with AMD in the console space tbh

they were selling their GPUs with very slight profits but that was heavily impacting revenue lol

[native aurora]

lole you are noobs

[quick locust]

How so

[quick locust]

Would be quite a sight

[lost cargo]

I don’t they will for next gen

[pale quartz]

they absolutely do not lol

[sonic sage]

I downloaded windows 11 yesterday and it said that I want to play Directx function
m_d3d12PipelineLibrary-> StorePipeline(HashStrDx12(key),
pipelineState)" failed with E_INVALIDARG ("An invalid
parameter was passed to the returning function.. GPU:
"NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti', Driver: 56590.
D:\devTnT\LocalPackages\RenderCore212.04.00-ks\source\plat
form\PcDx12\PipelineLibraryPcDx12.cpp

[willow schooner]

Your GPU driver crashed

[sonic sage]

What should I do?

[molten flame]

MSI leaked 9000X3D performance

[coarse nimbus]

cheap 7k series chips incoming because theyre about to be worthless?

[molten flame]

not a big uplift, 7800X3D production was lowered

[coarse nimbus]

i really feel like i purchased mine at the right time

[lunar gulch]

finally an update worth it from the 12900k?

oh noes

[digital hill]

so like barely any difference

[terse glade]

Maybe other things improved like temp and even lower power usage and maybe even higher 0,01% lows but thats hardly imaginable because the 7800x3d already been close to perfect

[midnight crypt]

It's definitely not close to perfect

[molten flame]

https://benchlife.info/nvidia-will-add-geforce-rtx-5070-12gb-gddr7-into-ces-2025-product-list/

Taiwan saying only the 5090 is faster than 4090, 5080 is slower than 4090

5070 slower than 4080

[lost cargo]

600W

[prime jasper]

how can I see those extra fps through the tears caused by my power bill

[candid flame]

what a joke lol

[brave sundial]

that kopite guy says otherwise, he says it's targetting '1.1x' over the 4090

his track record is really good so I have doubts on that report

[molten flame]

5080 does have similar memory bandwidth to 4090 thanks to 30+ Gbps GDDR7, but has over 40% less cores/SMs

5080 could be better in ray-tracing and might have DLSS 4.0 exclusive on the new gen

no way it's faster in 3D rasterization

[coarse nimbus]

rasterization
This makes me think of Rastafari

[pale quartz]

nobody knows the specification's for Blackwell parts and anyone saying they do is lying to you, don't believe anything until AIBs start receiving information

anything until then is deliberate misinformation

[modern gull]

Anyone know if 5070 with 12gb is factual? 🤔

[modern gull]

Basically these specs

[dry pike]

Nvidia will probably again flood their product line with way too many variants to confuse the customers

Will not be surprised if there's a 12gb, 10gb and and more

[coarse nimbus]

🙏 waiting for the evga 5070 to come out

[dry pike]

They make as many GFX cards as Coca Cola these days

[midnight crypt]

Can't forget the Super and Ti cards

to confuse people even more

[pale quartz]

gfx is discontinued and not produced anymore

hasn't been for a while, the 4080 and 4090 are ceasing production aswell

[brave sundial]

Nvidia will never tell us how it's actually pronounced

[digital hill]

@pale quartz question for my server, let say I turn it on, and then it boots but no picture as it is booting via the igpu so I turn it off and turn it on and it changes to the pcie gpu but then turning it off and back on leads to the igpu, why does the server act like this?

[pale quartz]

no idea too hard to say, drivers, probably

just disable the iGPU it's not that hard

[digital hill]

I forget to mention, this is just the boot to bios

and bios either turn off the automatic change to pcie gpu or only igpu

and also when one is disabled, via bios the computer cannot detect the card or igpu

[pale quartz]

as I said I don't know, it's not my server, things can be finnicky and differ per board/bios etc

your card may not support elevation via the UEFI directly as priority, it could be firmware, it could be anything

[digital hill]

Alright, understandable also, it is quite outdated so no uefi and also kinda a strange issue and I did check the basics of cmos being dead but that thing was 3v so it was fine

[pale quartz]

if you don't have UEFI then you're not going to be able to have a post image for the discrete card lol

[digital hill]

It boots

I dunno about uefi or not and I was able to get a legacy bios pc to boot with an rx 570 4gb, cannot access bios but I was able to boot to windows

[pale quartz]

it's a rdna1 card so I wouldn't be expecting things to work anyways

you run the risk of problems with using defective architectures, is how it goes

[digital hill]

Oh I forget to mention the server is using a quadro k2200

[digital hill]

This was before I got my gaming pc, I believe it was a dell xps 410 that I found off a curb that just needed new ram sticks

[pallid grotto]

RTX 4060ti 16Gb or RTX 4070.?

[quick locust]

4070

[pallid grotto]

I'll be ordering new Graphics card as my new PC parts will arrive next week so I want to know what is better and will get more Fps and will be enought for like 2 years..👀

[midnight crypt]

4090

[quick locust]

7800XT is also an option

[candid flame]

7800xt still pretty pogger

7900xtx tho lol, a tad overpriced

[pallid grotto]

Gimme the budget for it and I'll take it..

[candid flame]

they are gonna release the 5000 series soon and hardware-lock some features

[midnight crypt]

Just take out a small loan

[quick locust]

430 eur atm

[brave sundial]

4070 Ti super

[quick locust]

https://www.komplett.dk/product/1251399/gaming/gaming-pc/stationaer-gaming-pc/komplett-pc-sneaker-x-ryzen-7-rtx-4070-super?queryid=a644ff03c6995b41d6bf9a340c668f3b&sort=None

👟

[pale quartz]

resolution?

[pallid grotto]

1440p

[pale quartz]

4070ti s/4080 if you want to last 2 years

[pallid grotto]

I have slighty higher budget that I was supposed to have so I'll look into it 👀

[pale quartz]

4060ti is a 1080p card and the 4070 vram size isn't going to be enough without getting close to maximum when pushing graphics options, so they're your 2 realistic options

[willow schooner]

And dont go AMD Radeon unless you want to be hobbled by constant hardware, software and driver issues.

[quick locust]

hello jensen

[willow schooner]

I merely speak from personal, and support experience with Radeon GPUs. There is a reason they are cheaper, and as much as Radeon fans will try to convince you...its not because of the good graces of AMD 😁

[karmic leaf]

super-heavy booster caught at the launch tower 🚀 https://youtu.be/lku8t7bXhDw

[light wave]

Can’t wait

Who doesn’t like getting shafted by papa Jensen?

[candid flame]

[willow schooner]

AMD probably cant wait for Nvidia to announce what new features they will have, so they can spend the next 2-3 years copying and catching up 😄

[light wave]

I’m still paying way more for Nvidia, so either camp ain’t great anyways.

[brave sundial]

They're not even that cheap

battlemage pls be solid

[pale quartz]

battlemage is the final generation for intel discrete lol

dont be expecting any after

[vernal steppe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz4_OwKrlHE

[candid flame]

[coarse nimbus]

advanced crappy pasta

[candid flame]

easiest block of my life

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-chuck-mcgill-chicanery-breakdown-gif-25422432

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Zotac-Zone-review-Display-galore-with-class-leading-inputs.895001.0.html

849eur, only 512gb. Feels like it only having an oled can't carry this. But they aren't in a position of making much of a loss like valve are

But I suppose the more competition the merrier

[ivory creek]

i bought a google pixel 8a with a screenprotector and after just 10 hours the protector started to let loose in one of the corners

[sweet ivy]

Sounds like first world problems to me 😔

[ivory creek]

isnt everything here a first world problem

[candid flame]

yeah who gives a fuck about the third worlds lol

[ivory creek]

thats harsh

[coarse nimbus]

Who moved to Poland?

[candid flame]

despite the Europoor's salary recession it's still considered first world

[coarse nimbus]

But where did you come from

[candid flame]

it doesn't matter

[terse glade]

[coarse nimbus]

checkmate

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amds-next-gen-navi-44-gpu-package-said-to-be-29x29mm-in-size-smaller-than-navi-23-33

highest tier RDNA4 GPU has a smaller chip than RX 7600 and 6600

[candid flame]

smol

giving space to their AI thingy they are adding to the rdna4 cards?

[brave sundial]

they got their priorities set

[dry pike]

Don't trust any AI thingies until a a common standard is set.

[pale quartz]

which wont be used by anything*

[candid flame]

it's so lame lol

[pale quartz]

rdna3 "AI" cores are not used by anything on AMDs own stack, dont expect much from this

RDNA4 top end as an idea will match a 4090 and thats it

[lost cargo]

Upscaling

[pale quartz]

its not used by FSR

[lost cargo]

[pale quartz]

FSR is software based, only

[candid flame]

they did say the next version could be hardware-dependent

[pale quartz]

wont do anything for reasons i have said before

[lost cargo]

So I’m hearing that AMD have useless AI in their chips for no purpose?

[pale quartz]

essentially yes

[lost cargo]

They can take advantage of that. But don’t

[pale quartz]

no theres nothing currently that can

AMD hasnt built any software which uses it, and people getting their hopes up are going to be disappointed

[lost cargo]

AMD move

[pale quartz]

games that are using fsr 3.0 or less are not upgradable by the user, which means 98% of current games are defunct even if they add it in a new version

[lost cargo]

defunct

[pale quartz]

defunct/unusable/redundant insert xyz word

[lost cargo]

That’s wild

So FSR 4.0 will split the gap

Like how Nvidia is with frame gen between 30s/40s card

[pale quartz]

yes, essentially

well thats the idea

[lost cargo]

Forcing people to buy new cards for better FSR

[pale quartz]

im trying to say it in a nice way what it means in lamens terms is people buying RDNA4 thinking they can accelerate fsr, cannot, they can only use it in games which use or have 3.1 (currently), and the amount of those games is well, fuck all

theyve already lost that war if you remotely care about upscaling theres no reason to buy radeon

[lost cargo]

I see but standard 3.0 and less works like normal.

[pale quartz]

yes

[lost cargo]

4090 had them good.

To far out of reach

[pale quartz]

radeon has no answer to DLAA, selectable models per game or anything of the sort, DLSS hasnt seen a significant update in a year and theyre still nowhere close

if the rumours are true then a 4.0 release is close

[lost cargo]

Prob what AMD is cooking.

But yea that’s true. Only true upgrade to DLSS is frame gen tbh

Rest is just improvements to raytracing and reconstruction

[lost cargo]

Should say DLSS as a whole

[pale quartz]

DLAA is the actual upgrade, since its the golden standard for AA solutions, there is no radeon equivalent for it

[lost cargo]

I see. My b

[fallen harbor]

hiii

what cpu brand would yall recommend for an all-round low end laptop? intel or amd?

a laptop without dedicated gpu that is

just the cpu with igpu

for studying, graphic design, office work, and some games

not triple a games ofc

[candid flame]

intel iGPU is often really bad

[fallen harbor]

yeah, the only thing that i know is that ryzen igpu is a lot stronger

buuut

idk

since there are so many intel laptops at almost the same price as ryzen laptops, i thought that i might be missing something

or are these intel laptops equivalent to their ryzen counterpart overprized?

is their processing capacity similar? or does intel win by a lot in that regard?

id bet they are similar but idk

[brave sundial]

ryzen mobile cpus are usually better at power efficiency, that's crucial for a laptop

Ryzen integrated graphics these days is actually pretty good too

Just get a Ryzen one

[fallen harbor]

okie

tyvm

also

now that im at it

does dual channel technology exist in laptops?

because a lot of laptops only have 1 ram slot

but there are some that have 2 slots so

if i get one with two slots and the ram modules occupying the two of them, would I get dual channel?

or is this not a thing in laptops?

[brave sundial]

Yes it always has existed

[fallen harbor]

it is recommended to get one with two slots then if i get ryzen for the igpu performance i suppose

[digital hill]

My god what the fuck windows

Why did you reserve all the ram and leave me with 3gb

[lost cargo]

Buy more ram. Ez

[digital hill]

I did and now look

[lost cargo]

Looks better

[lofty light]

Thinks you’re using 32-bit windows lol

[digital hill]

True

[pale quartz]

the answer is you might be depending on what you require, Ryzen iGPUs are inferior in terms of things like recording and do not feature staples that exist like quick sync, so it's not that easy to judge, you'll need to research the laptops specification by specification to identify your needs

[dry pike]

I just need my laptop to stand beside me and play the Battlefield Heroes soundtrack over and over again

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/piano-piano-on-fire-man-playing-piano-fire-gif-18619744

A real fan would buy the heroes vinyl

[hushed haven]

Hey anyone know how to fix battlefield 2042 restarting my pc after like a match or 2. When it restarts the screen stays black but the pc is on. Starting to think it’s the GPU or PSU since I’ve tried a lot of different things. I have a 2080 super and 750 psu

[digital hill]

What is your cpu

[hushed haven]

Ryzen 7 2700x I believe

[digital hill]

This is a really important question, when gaming does your pc fans start ramping really loud

Like, you could hear loud fan noises

[hushed haven]

I do hear my fans, maybe a cooling problem?

[digital hill]

Like is it loud though

I meant like does it get louder when gaming, to the point it kinda sounds like a jet engine

[hushed haven]

Not really a concerning loud but they are audible even when not playing games.

[digital hill]

Check your temps using msi afterburner

and see which part is heating up

Might be a cooling issue

[hushed haven]

They both get into the 80’s when playing 2042 sometimes high 80s

Both CPU and GPU

[digital hill]

Does your cpu hit 85c?

or go above that

[hushed haven]

I believe it’s in Fahrenheit

[digital hill]

no everything pc use is celicus

so does it hit that number?

[hushed haven]

Yeah I believe so

[digital hill]

Well, we found your issue

your cpu is overheating, the max temperature of a r7 2700x is 85c

You need to mess with the fan setting, or check your thermal paste application

[hushed haven]

I do t understand how every other game works fine though, including games with similar requirements

It’s only Ea games that does this

[digital hill]

Your using more gpu then cpu

ea games use both

Like playing gta v, your not stressing out your cpu, the gpu is

but battlefield 2042, it uses both cpu and gpu more often

It is a simple fix though

Just check whether you applied thermal paste

[hushed haven]

Alright, thanks for the help

[ivory creek]

my google pixel 8a is updating to android 15 right now

nice

[brave sundial]

Did you get that pixel studio app? I'm using a apk version I patched myself but it's a pixel exclusive for a15

Pretty cool app, basically local image gen

[ivory creek]

its not done updating yet

ill check it out later

thanks

i love that the phone got 7 years of android updates and security patches

[brave sundial]

Good on apple for making the rest of the industry actually deliver on good OTA plans now

Samsung went from 2 to 5? And now they usually push major updates before Google lol

[ivory creek]

samsungs flagship phones got 7 year of support aswell ithink, to match google pixel

[brave sundial]

https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-smartphones-seven-years-android-one-ui-updates-eligibility/

Oh damn you're right

Just 5 years ago, having more than 2 on android was considered a luxury, and now it's the bare minimum

[ivory creek]

ye

thankfully things turn for the better

[tawny mauve]

it's easy to do years long updates with proprietary os
like ios and google with android
samsung must be an exception

[pale quartz]

it's not, just they didn't want to

every android phone, is from the AOSP which is what pixel gets, support is a choice, it's got nothing to do with if they can or not

[tawny mauve]

really, I see now

[brave sundial]

[midnight crypt]

Wow hes back again

Incredible

[stark widget]

Hey there, since BF2042 came out, I'm unable to play it without visual glitches like red / colorful flare lights spreading over the whole screen. Unfortunately, nothing I tried fixed the problem (DDU, Safe Mode, forcing DX12, disabling FreeSync, ...). I'm running an RX6800 non-XT (the AMD reference version) and it has no issues whatshowever, it's only BF2042

[candid flame]

means your GPU is potentially dying

[midnight crypt]

Run some gpu benchmarks

[dull solstice]

What other games tested do not show this problem?

Give exact names for comparative reference.

[dry pike]

Guess we should just assume it was mine sweeper

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-and-intel-test-12v-2x6-power-connectors-for-next-gen-gpus-but-most-prototypes-still-stick-to-standard-options

Radeon and Intel may not use the new 12V-2x6 connector for next-gen GPUs

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/samsung-introduces-24gb-3gb-gddr7-memory-with-speeds-over-40-gbps

imagine a 512-bit GPU with 40+ Gbps

[cursive marten]

that sounds like it'd be fast.

What would 512-bit really do for a GPU tho

[molten flame]

512-bit is about a 30% increase in bandwidth over 384-bit

[cursive marten]

I see

So it would be fast.

well actually

There'd be more stuff

[molten flame]

GDDR7 but the RTX 5000 series will use nothing faster than 32 Gbps afaik

I hear the 5080 will have faster 32 Gbps while 5090 has 30-31 Gbps

just like how 4080 had faster memory chips than 4090

[cursive marten]

why?

[molten flame]

don't know the real reason but it might be to slightly fill in the major gap in memory bandwidth between 4080 and 4090

[pallid grotto]

So... I builded my new PC but motherboard keeps blinking yellow.. Dunno what to do (I tried to Google it but no help / answer)

[midnight crypt]

Motherboard manual should tell you what the lights mean

[pallid grotto]

Nothing about it at all there..👀

[midnight crypt]

What's your mobo?

[pallid grotto]

Asus tuf gaming a520m

[midnight crypt]

a520m-plus?

[pallid grotto]

Yes

[lost cargo]

[pallid grotto]

I checked everything but nothing helps..😩

[midnight crypt]

what cpu did you put in it?

[midnight crypt]

?

[digital hill]

Ok let’s do something basic

Remove every non essential accessories and leave power supply and motherboard only with cpu fan as well

And ram

And turn it on, if it keeps blinking, remove one ram stick and put another one

And see if one works

[pallid grotto]

AMD Ryzen 7 5700x3d

[midnight crypt]

It's possible your bios version doesn't support it

[digital hill]

Or not yet supported

Like it is an older bios

Might be time to buy a 2nd cpu temporarily @pallid grotto

[pallid grotto]

No budget for it now after all this purchase...

[midnight crypt]

Depending on where you bought the mobo from

You could ask them to update the bios for you

[jovial edge]

I have just discovered that the EA Anti Cheat has used up all of my storage space on local drive.

[willow schooner]

Yes, 100% it's the anticheat and not other files. 😜

[pallid grotto]

Did all like 2-3 times and now it runs...

[coarse nimbus]

Top fans in there too?

[pallid grotto]

Yup, all the airflow 👀

[coarse nimbus]

5700 isn't that bad is it

Single fan on that cooling tower too smh.. should have 3 minimum

[ivory creek]

hm i regret buying a google pixel 8a, shouldve just gone for a samsung s24 instead. anyone wanna trade and i pay like 400euro inbetween?

[brave sundial]

why are you already having regrets

[willow schooner]

Cos the GPU in the pixel 8a is crappy

[ivory creek]

the camera and everything is better on s24

also google has decided to skip some features to the A series

for some stupid reason

the A phones aint that much cheaper, they should get all features

[brave sundial]

But he should've known that when Google has continously stated that they know and don't care

[brave sundial]

really?

[ivory creek]

ye we dont get low light mode in some apps etc like the regular pixel phones get

[brave sundial]

except the shutter lag

[ivory creek]

in a perfect world i would get a s24 ultra

but id rather buy a new gpu

lol

[brave sundial]

How about you broaden your horizons with other oems

[ivory creek]

oneplus 12 is quite interesting aswell

[brave sundial]

Still rocking my 8 Pro from launch

[ivory creek]

pixel?

[brave sundial]

Great phone, all I need is a new battery and I see myself using it for another year

[brave sundial]

Oneplus

[ivory creek]

oh i see

[brave sundial]

Nearing 5 years old now

[ivory creek]

i have a oneplus 5 and it charge 5 times faster than my pixel 8a

lol

[brave sundial]

That's dash charging, wait till you experience warp charging that's 90W

I like all the exclusive stuff too like the zen app

[ivory creek]

ye zen app

i have it on my 5 i think

[brave sundial]

They peaked with their unique design around the 7 Pro

[ivory creek]

they peaked with their low prices around 6

then it became more expensive

[brave sundial]

Honestly I can count on one hand how many times I used the selfie camera this or last year

so pop up is perfect for me.

But yeah, I'm just the tiny minority, so we had to regress back to puncholes

Not to mention the privacy benefit pop up has too

[ivory creek]

perfect world we got a screen that can turn transparent

and let u take a photo

then go back

[brave sundial]

transparent?

[ivory creek]

ye

like u can take a photo through it

then it goes back to displaying colors

[brave sundial]

Lol I remember the outrage around the 5? Wasn't it? Back design was basically the iPhone 7 Pro haha

[ivory creek]

ye im not entierly sure

but now the 12 is at full samsung/iphone price

[brave sundial]

https://www.adslzone.net/app/uploads-adslzone.net/2017/06/oneplus-5-1.jpg

Oh yeah it was

[ivory creek]

ye thats my 5

i have one of those

lol

[brave sundial]

Really? Here it's considerably less

[ivory creek]

hm

maybe regional pricing

[brave sundial]

And they do frequent promotions where they include free earbuds or cases

[ivory creek]

the 12 is 834 euro here

[brave sundial]

I remember when I got a trade-in offer of only £300 to the 11 from my 8 Pro, but didn't really want more from it at the time honestly

[ivory creek]

around the same price as s24

[brave sundial]

I still don't, camera is probably my only gripe and gcam is a decent solution I suppose. But apart from that, no complaints

Guess I won the panel lottery too because the launch models had issues with the display when you turned the brightness down very low.

[ivory creek]

i dont want oled on my phones to be honest, my latest phone got permanent burnins quite fast from overheating from running heavy apps

[brave sundial]

Well that's the base s24

The 12 competes in specs with the s24 ultra doesn't it?

Atleast, that's been their strategy since the 10

[ivory creek]

ye it got way more ram etc

ure trying to sell me into oneplus again

i should sell my pixel and get a 12

[brave sundial]

they may have 'settled' but they're still a damn solid company

[ivory creek]

i thought they said never settle

if they have they have failed

[brave sundial]

ColorOS is a far cry from the old days of the 'stock' feel oxygen but it offers plenty of customisation and is snappy

[brave sundial]

oh no it's just a meme among the community

They still offer the alert slider and all that

[ivory creek]

cool

[brave sundial]

But they're alot closer than they were originally with Oppo.

[ivory creek]

oh yeah theyre partners with oppo or some sht

i forgot about that

[brave sundial]

They are Oppo

they always were a company created by them to expand into the west

They just did a damn good job at it that we never cared where they were from

[ivory creek]

didnt oppo have tv shows where the judges used oppo phones to vote

lol

[brave sundial]

what

[ivory creek]

ye

like contests

and the judges used oppos to say who won

not at all sponsored

lol

[brave sundial]

If you're worried about the camera, they made great improvements in that area after people complained lol

[ivory creek]

im more worried about they selling the info to their government

but whatever

[brave sundial]

oh yeah, I use adguard dns for telemetry and that seems to block almost all of it.

[ivory creek]

cool

[brave sundial]

You could also try straight up removing it through adb, but some people have reported bootlooping, so not worth it.

There's always custom roms too, but play integrity has gotten alot stricter and ofc for security reasons it's not the best option either.

[ivory creek]

google pixel offers a free vpn to their users

[molten flame]

Just so you know, the S24 series has worse camera lenses than the S22 and S21 series

[ivory creek]

ah, but i want the 7 year of support

[brave sundial]

Aren't they keeping the exact same arrangement for the s25 ultra?

[ivory creek]

but thanks for the input

[brave sundial]

Yeah, oneplus's 4 is measly in comparison

[ivory creek]

google also gives me 3 months of free youtube premium and extra cloud storage

[brave sundial]

Those are just trials no? Get the trials and then return the phone

[ivory creek]

lol

true

[brave sundial]

I remember when they did that free bose headphones deal. People bought them, claimed the free headphones worth like $400 and then returned them lmao

No wonder they stopped doing it after 2 years

[ivory creek]

i remember when people would preorder games to get into the betas then refund the games

right after

lol

[brave sundial]

aye, that's still a valid tactic

[molten flame]

The S21 Ultra has higher resolution and sharper colors in images taken with the rear camera. Colors looked washed out on the S24, likely to do with AI enhancements on newer phones

S24 has better front facing camera, that's it

[ivory creek]

hm

google pixel 9 apparently got underwater camera

that focus on underwater colors

[brave sundial]

yes, totally practicable in the real world

But does the pixel 9 have a water touch

Actual useful feature on the OP12

Allows you to use your screen just fine even in the rain.

Like magic. Honestly one of the features that's tempting me to upgrade.

[molten flame]

for budget phones, the Galaxy A55 is a great choice at $300, also one of the longest lasting batteries ever for a Samsung phone

[ivory creek]

the a55 is like 500 here, but ye we have stupid taxes and stuff that makes everything more expensive

[brave sundial]

https://youtu.be/tV7VH_gBw28

I hope more phones implement this

[molten flame]

A55 with 8GB ram and 128GB storage is $280 here, 12Gb ram and 256GB storage is over $100 more

[molten flame]

I hear OnePlus phones have compromised security

[ivory creek]

oof

thats not good

[brave sundial]

Source?

Last time I heard about this was with the 6

[molten flame]

There is a small microchip in the phone , that explodes after 3 hours of on time. And takes your head clean off.

[ivory creek]

i went for the pixel 8a because 7 years of security updates. but samsung also got 7 years now so i shouldve taken that instead

[brave sundial]

Well tbf I guess you could say that oneplus nord phone had 'compromised' security

As in it literally exploded because it had the same issue the note 7 had

[ivory creek]

mission impossible phones

lol

[brave sundial]

The 10 pro had a weak middle which could snap if you applied a decent amount of pressure.

11 had a small issue with fogged up camera lense. To my knowledge nothing wrong with the 12 though.

The former 2 issues were addressed on later revisions on the production lines

[ivory creek]

i remember this guy who would put every phone into a sturdy blender and see what harm it would do

i wonder if he still does it

does it blend?

[brave sundial]

Techrax?

I remember the comments on the videos: "why didn't you donate to Africa you asshole"

[ivory creek]

lol

[brave sundial]

Holy shit he still makes videos

TIL he's Ukrainian too

[molten flame]

OnePlus phones have an advantage of bringing the top flagship CPUs at a mid-range price, and you can easily install a ROM or a different version of Android

[brave sundial]

Yeah to my knowledge they're the only OEM other than Google that freely allow you to unlock the bootloader

And Sony.. but who cares about them

[ivory creek]

https://youtu.be/qg1ckCkm8YI?si=1x2gczPWSuYjtgMz

[brave sundial]

[ivory creek]

that is the blender guy

[brave sundial]

Oh

[molten flame]

Most Chinese-centered Android brands are worse for privacy than the alternatives. This includes OnePlus, Xiaomi, Realme, Oppo, Vivo, etc. If you're looking for the best privacy and security available on Android, I'd recommend getting a newer Google Pixel device and flashing it with Graphene.

Privacy in a mobile phone is more important than hardware

[brave sundial]

I mean if you want to fully degoogle then yeah graphene is good. But you lose out on all that functionality then

I guess microg would work then?

[ivory creek]

should i flash my 8a with graphene?

[brave sundial]

Graphene means you cut out Google entirely

[ivory creek]

ah

[brave sundial]

That's how it gets the name of being a totally secure OS

[ivory creek]

i dont really care if the us government get my info

[brave sundial]

I'm rocking a fork of crdroid personally rn good rom

[ivory creek]

aslong as the us government wont sue me for using adblockers on youtube

its all good

lol

[brave sundial]

I'm eyeing the oneplus 13, 8 gen 4 benchmarks look too good to be true

[ivory creek]

can playing games that overheat the phone cause burnins on the screen?

[molten flame]

burn-in happens from being too bright and staying on the same image or leaving screen on too long

heat might contribute to it

[brave sundial]

nah, the soc would throttle you down anyways.

phones are well equipped to handle it these days, unless you play excessively everyday

[molten flame]

I know someone who had burn-in on a Galaxy S10 because they left a game running idle for all day lol

[brave sundial]

I do have burn in on mine, but it's from the status bar. Which only supports kristofer's point. Static element.

[ivory creek]

my last phone is full of different burnins all over the screen

lol

[molten flame]

it printed the main menu of the game to the screen permanently

[ivory creek]

i can see the youtube logo

visibly

on the screen

at all times

[brave sundial]

And I thought being able to see the tiny signal icon at all times if I look closely was bad

[ivory creek]

thats why i dont want oled on my phones

regular screens that are almost imune to burnins are fine enough for me

[brave sundial]

I can't go back after going oled on mine

those contrast levels, the blacks

[ivory creek]

micro qled get decent enough blacks these days

[brave sundial]

I can only imagine how it would look on a 34in monitor or something.

Or a TV ,

one day I will I suppose

[ivory creek]

i have a qled tv and its blacks aint perfect like my brothers oled but its not bad at all

but today there are oled tvs with 5 year warranty

so if they get burnin after 3 year u just get a new

and u can keep doing that

lol

[brave sundial]

Just make sure you don't get one with Samsung

[ivory creek]

isnt samsung evo the ones with 5 years warranty?

someone said that if u keep getting burnins after 3 years after a while they have to upgrade you with the latest model of tv

cuz the older has stop being produced

lol

[brave sundial]

I meant their repair techs intentionally sabotaging tvs so they claim it was 'our of warranty'

[ivory creek]

oh

[brave sundial]

Though tbf only a few videos online of that happening, all in the US

If you get it through a retailer you should be fine

Personally I'd go for LG

[ivory creek]

wait evo is lg

not samsung

my bad

and they come with 5 years warranty

which is awesome

someone said that qled also can get burnins, but my tv came with a 10 year burn in warranty and claims to be burn in proof

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/qualcomm-cancels-its-snapdragon-dev-kit-the-closest-snapdragon-x-has-come-to-desktop-pcs#disqus_thread

Windows on ARM fumbled again

[pale quartz]

well that's just not true lol

[pale quartz]

yes it absolutely can, phones are not good thermal insulators especially when the back is pressed against a material because it cannot dissipate heat and the screen will absorb the rest of it because it has nowhere to go

[lost cargo]

I used my friends S24 and it have great lens. Especially from a distance compared to iPhone. iPhone is good for portraits basically

[pale quartz]

all TVs can get burn in, there is no such thing as one that can't, burn in proof just means to what they are tested at for factory specifications, it's a technology limitation, not a (this xyz monitor can or cannot situation)

[molten flame]

hard to find info on the comparison of cameras of 3-4 different generations but the real reason isn't the camera hardware but rather the SoC

Galaxy phones with Exynos chipset will have worse camera processing than SnapDragon

[pale quartz]

no it's not hard to find it's just not true, the lenses on the s21 are worse it doesn't matter if you're talking about exynos or snapdragon, support for rendering lowlight gray-scale is impossible on <s23 which is why images come out garbage as are numerous other things, you're just wrong sorry

the only case where the lenses are not an upgrade is between the galaxy z fold 6 and the s24 because the lenses are literally identical, there is no generation between the main S line where the cameras are not better in some capacity

[molten flame]

common complaint with S24 Ultra camera is that pictures taken indoors are typically grainy compared to previous gens

maybe software optimization issue

[pale quartz]

there are always camera issues but this is not to do with the lens, it's because of how the image is post processed, it's happened in every cycle to some capacity since it was introduced

it's not hard to avoid the problem just capture in raw and there's no post processing anyways

[molten flame]

I don't like it when my iPhone tells me to hold the camera steady for an additional 2 seconds after I snap the photo

but if I don't the image quality suffers

crazy that it has a camera stabilizer but still wants me to hold the phone as steady as possible

[ivory creek]

i found someone selling a s24 unopened box for a good price. what should i do with my pixel 8a tho

just can it?

i have the option to buy the phone right now in the middle of the night

should i do it or not?

before someone else does

or should i keep my pixel 8a

[ivory creek]

i bought the phone

a yellow samsung galaxy s24

[cursive marten]

i respect the aesthetic

yellow phone, that's unique.

you do not see that everyday.

[ivory creek]

ye i like it

[toxic wigeon]

You'd think a phone camera would be decent 10 metres away!

[toxic wigeon]

Anyone have a .bk2 to mp4 converter?

[quick locust]

Ffmpeg with libavcodec?

[ivory creek]

apparently they have stopped selling the 5800x3d

or are going to atleast

inb4 i can sell mine for a high price

[ivory creek]

anyone wanna buy my 5800x3d to the am4 system, a perfect upgrade if ure on a ryzen 3000 series, only 100euro more expensive than i bought it for!

[pale quartz]

nope

they stopped selling it because the 5700x3d is its replacement, so your 5800x3d loses value

[ivory creek]

eh, for people who want the best they go for 800 over 700

[lost cargo]

Atleast the RTX Titan XP is cheap and still doing good

[ivory creek]

ima buy a 5070ti if it delivers

a good replacement for my 3090

dlss is godsent

[lost cargo]

DLSS is good asf

[ivory creek]

i play all my games with dlss to 1080p even tho i can go higher

it looks almost as good as native

[lost cargo]

I just use 1440p with DLSS Quality

[ivory creek]

what gpu u got?

[lost cargo]

3080

[ivory creek]

ah

i used to play with dlss quality

but then i tried performance and got way better fps and it almost look as good

[lost cargo]

I could use balanced or performance. But I go for picture quality abit more

[ivory creek]

ye quality is a tad sharper and more detailed

[lost cargo]

I focus on low graphics, with a sharp image/picture

Never liked high settings personally

[ivory creek]

in every game iset texture quality to max

[lost cargo]

Same. It always go max or high setting preset

[molten flame]

None of them are in production anymore afaik, there is just so many 5700X3D in inventory

[pale quartz]

its not to do with inventory its to do with bin, the 5800x3d is higher than (a 5700x3d), so its more expensive to keep around for benefit

[ivory creek]

i never sell anything,i just let my inventory collect dust. maybe i could sell my stuff for really cheap

[molten flame]

[brave sundial]

[turbid verge]

[ivory creek]

[stark widget]

I got my GPU back in April 2021 and played BF 2042 for the first time when it was part of the Xbox Game Pass. Since the first time I ever started the game, I had this issue. My GPU never had any issues till today, neither during gaming nor benchmarking. AMD indicated that there are driver issues with BF2042 ("targeted for Release 24.08.1"), but they removed this bullet point from their Radeon release note page when 24.08.1 came out....

[stark widget]

All of the titles down below are what I regularly play / use. They all run without problems!

BF1, BFV, Assetto Corsa, SoT, Valorant, CS, CS2, NMS, Minecraft, Death Stranding, Astroneer, GTAV, Far Cry 5, Anno 1800, ETS2, Battlefront 2, Farming Sim 19 + 22

Creative software: UE5, Blender, Davinci Resolve

Benchmarks: Unigine Heaven, 3D Mark

[dull solstice]

I see. Have you also acquired the later Unigine Valley and Superposition as good measure?

[ivory creek]

its almost 24 hours since i pre-paid for the galaxy s24 , and the guy still havent posted the phone. good thing i used a third party secure payment that will return my money if the phone hasnt arrived in 7 days

[cursive marten]

i have acquired a powerbank

:D

[ivory creek]

gratz

[ivory creek]

The phone was just delivered to a delivery company

Yay

[molten flame]

is the delivery company gonna deliver the delivery?

[ivory creek]

lol

only if the package is properly delievered t othe delivery company that will deliver

and i think so

😄

its a sealed box with an s24 in it, only risky thing with it being unused is if it wont start for some reason

but it will come with warranty and reciept

so i guess its fine

[lost cargo]

Imagine it’s a fake

[ivory creek]

oof

[dry pike]

S14, the 2 was a typo

[ivory creek]

lol

why not an old galaxy s3 mini while we're at it

[molten coral]

i had that one

[ivory creek]

my ex had it aswell

i was amazed by it to be honest

i had an iphone and wanted to switch

[brave sundial]

Meanwhile me with the windows phone

[ivory creek]

didnt they come later?

lol

[brave sundial]

It came a year after the S3

[ivory creek]

ah

[brave sundial]

[ivory creek]

im getting old and senile

sorry

[brave sundial]

it's fine no one really remembers it these days anyways

The Minecraft port on that was awesome, put so many hours into it

[ivory creek]

i bought minecraft during alpha and they promised us we would get every future version of the game for free

where are my story games for free?

[brave sundial]

Story mode?

[ivory creek]

ye there are story games

separate

[brave sundial]

Those aren't really versions

They're spinoffs

They made on their promise though, they even gave out windows edition when that was a thing for free to every java owner.

[ivory creek]

i got windows 10 edition of minecraft for free tho

so i let them slide

[brave sundial]

I didn't get my migrator cape though

They gave out exclusive capes to people like us who got w10 edition and 'migrated' to a MS account

the twitch and anniversary capes are cool enough I suppose

not the TikTok one though

[ivory creek]

damn minecraft was such a hit, its crazy

[brave sundial]

Best selling game of all time , pretty insane

[ivory creek]

the creator won a bidding against jay-z and beyonce for a luxuary home

from the money

[brave sundial]

Yeah, he hosted parties with rich people for days in that home

I remember seeing tours of it and thinking that MS overpaid for Mojang

But now, it's clear they really made back on the investment

[ivory creek]

yeah

microsoft got smart people working for them

theres no doubt

[lost cargo]

Minecraft is the best since day 1 of release. MS just made it better

[crisp lance]

CHAT

pc…

this is a LOT bigger than I thought it would be

[midnight crypt]

Strap that boi in

[lost cargo]

That pc is heavier than me

[coarse nimbus]

sailors really living up to the meme

[ivory creek]

is that a coolermaster cosmos?

oh wait no it isnt

that case is too huge tho

or is it

damn im tired

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mod-discord-kick-mute-gif-495505587681287181

[light wave]

Considered an “Ultra Tower”, funnily enough

[ivory creek]

if i were to buy a new case now it would probably be fractal design north with wood in the front tho

[candid flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzNR2B7vA1k
glad to see people still remember to shit-talk userbenchmark

[brave sundial]

He's right, so many people fall for it

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/468358707890094081/1297315688901378058/gBxBK0P.png?ex=67157ae3&is=67142963&hm=c7ad8e553fda1318019dfd3491be1b3fcb25d10b6d3530fee9fe1b6dadf5a3cd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=604&height=671

modern games are software bloat

[ivory creek]

i dont know about all this but just give me dlss and im happy

[brave sundial]

I assure you, the 8K textures and the high res audio flac files that take up 80GB alone are essential for the experience

[ivory creek]

losless audio is underrated

if u have the right gear it sounds heavenly

[brave sundial]

True but like 90% of gamers just use the wired earphones that came with their old phone. I used to for a long time too.

[crisp lance]

YEAHHH :D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DklUlve_C4Y&pp=ygUWQ29vbGVyIG1hc3RlciBjb3NtbyBpaQ%3D%3D

[ivory creek]

even my most tired eyes are sharp enough it seems

[digital hill]

and require expensive ssds

seriously, you want to play cod bo6 smoothly

$50-90

and also takes up like half your storage on a 1tb ssd

[crisp lance]

WINDOWS 🗣️

[dry pike]

That's what I have 🙂

[crisp lance]

is, 48lb… 21.77 kg

[light wave]

Sick case ngl

[ivory creek]

Very nice, dont mind your computer randomly disappearing, it was just me

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-leak-lists-4-7-ghz-base-clock-and-120w-tdp-confirmed-by-motherboard-maker

4.7 GHz base clock for 3D cache is very high

[ivory creek]

doesnt intel clock way higher tho and they're still worse at gaming

[pale quartz]

clocks =/= performance in games

[crisp lance]

but but, bigger number go up ☹️

[molten flame]

also if 9800X3D has 10-12% higher clocks than 7800X3D, that doesn't mean 10-12% higher performance

[dry pike]

It usually really messes up some people when they realise that 5Ghz of one brand, generation etc. might not be as fast as 5Ghz of another brand, generation etc. 😄

[digital hill]

Damn so gaming with nitrogen for the most highest overclock wouldn't give me a huge improvement

[cursive marten]

no

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-preparing-new-ryzen-5-5600xt-and-5600t-processors-am4-saga-continues

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cinebench-r23-leak-shows-all-core-frequency-of-5-6-ghz-with-pbo-enabled

5.6 GHz all-core with PBO

which is like 600-700 MHz higher than 7800X3D with PBO

[midnight crypt]

Show me real performance then i'll be interested

[coarse nimbus]

Then you'll see the price and realize it's not worth it for now

[ivory creek]

pictures have surfaced of a said to be 5090 from a factory in asia, could it be real?

its claimed to be a chinese dressed down version of it tho

[willow schooner]

Its a Zotac leak, so likely true...tho nothing here really tells us anything. 5090 existance was already known

[ivory creek]

idk why i get so excited for it, ill probably just get a 5070ti or something like that down the line anyway

i guess it makes it all feel more close

[lost cargo]

https://www.techpowerup.com/327906/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-blackwell-gpu-appears-during-factory-boot-up

[molten flame]

it's a real Zotac model

[lost cargo]

[molten flame]

wouldn't be surprised if partners are testing 5090 with 4090 coolers

[lost cargo]

read this

they also have this to https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5090.c4216

[brave sundial]

Looks.. Just about how I expect it would look lol

But is it a global model or the China only D model

[ivory creek]

the article i read said its a version made for china

but idk

[lost cargo]

thats from this article

thats prob what people saw

heres the source they used

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-5090-graphics-card-featured-in-a-factory-trial-video

and i found this

[ivory creek]

okey

i didnt use any of those sites tho just for your info, and mine seem to have posted it earlier 👍

[lost cargo]

just did abit of googling. internet is there for a reason

[molten flame]

wow they put a 4070 Ti cooler on a 5090

[lost cargo]

As far I understand. They are not using the 5090 in any way

If they are making coolers for it. I’m kinda curious 👀

If they don’t have the card

[molten flame]

wonder how much time AIBs have to develop their own coolers

[ivory creek]

i would like to see some spacecraft supercoolant material being used

why not hire elon musk to make spacex coolers to nvidia

[lost cargo]

I mean. Elon bought many server cards from Nvidia

[lost cargo]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/elon-musk-took-19-days-to-set-up-100-000-nvidia-h200-gpus-process-normally-takes-4-years

Found it

[ivory creek]

nice

[candid flame]

yeah Jensen said they worked 24/7 to set that up

everything is fast when you make your workers crunch as much as possible

[sullen zealot]

suuuuuure, elon set them up himself

if i could embed i'd be rolling my eyes right now

[turbid verge]

thanks for the dividends Elon

[lost cargo]

I mean Elon bought them

He runs the show

[toxic wigeon]

He's a fucking joke

[lost cargo]

[coarse nimbus]

Think they were bought at a discounted rate?

[pale quartz]

this is more a testament to Nvidia than twitter than anything

the one thing they are good at is listening to their customers regardless of what the area is, hardware, software, where no others do in such a efficient manner

you can very easily get a hold of a manager at whatever division in Nvidia about a problem and they'll reply within the week, intel or AMD do not have that whatsoever

[ivory creek]

i want to remember an article claiming that nvidia is a software company mainly that happen to do hardware. idk how true that is tho

[pale quartz]

there is no such thing other than that's always been the case

Nvidia made CUDA, they pioneered software monetisation for things like subscriptions in cars, their hardware is just a vehicle for their software

that's what you and everyone else associates with Nvidia even without realising, DLSS, rtx hdr are all software based features

[ivory creek]

i guess that makes sense, but as a gpu costumer u look at their geforce cards and just take them for a hardware focused company

[pale quartz]

no, even during GFX they were a software company

[modern gull]

Interesting, never thought about it like that before 🤔

[pale quartz]

you bought NV because there was no competitor to pascal in terms of software integration or game compatibility, and that's ultimately what it's about

that is still the case to this day its just more "depends what you want", the Nvidia brand has been about software since pascal more or less came out, some of those have been a failure like physx but the majority haven't, it's just so extensive nowadays that there is a subconscious association with them as an identity

[ivory creek]

the first gpu i bought myself was an old nvidia 9800gtx+, idk what that series was called, but yeah i get you

[brave sundial]

How did PhysX fail anyways, I never heard about it again after control

Which implemented it brilliantly, might I add

[pale quartz]

just a decades old tech that nobody really cared about to do well, it didnt work on other gpus so that was a contributing factor

[brave sundial]

Oh, shame

Didn't know it was decades old, thought it was relatively new lol

[ivory creek]

wasnt physx somehow forced in the first or second mirrors edge, and it made people without it unable to play for a while before they fixed it

[brave sundial]

huh? I never heard of it in those games

Or if it was it the implementation must've been nowhere near as good as Control's

[ivory creek]

they didnt go overkill with it, but it was used to move clothings and shatter windows and other stuff realisticly if i dont remember it wrong

[lost cargo]

I see

[lost cargo]

Nvidia does have their shit together. Early Nvidia was very roughy for them starting out.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/unlocked-intel-core-ultra-9-285k-approaches-370w-power-draw-during-cinebench-test#disqus_thread

[coarse nimbus]

hey its not called ultra for nothing...

[prime jasper]

Wow 200,000

I only got 80-100

H100

Oop I can’t send photos

[brave sundial]

https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/qualcomm-says-its-snapdragon-elite-benchmarks-show-intel-didnt-tell-the-whole-story-in-its-lunar-lake-marketing

On mad copium rn

Lunar Lake destroys it lmao

Maybe they shouldn't have priced their laptops at $1000+

Take the L and improve next time

[ivory creek]

lol i just got my s24 and it seems fine but after watching videos of perfect copies who are even more powerful in some scenarios im getting paranoid and want to have it checked out at a store

[brave sundial]

I mean it is exynos

only the ultra has snapdragon everywhere

[digital hill]

Holy shit you need more than a thousand watts

God damn, for what

[lost cargo]

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-box-leaked-2nd-gen-3d-v-cache-teased

2nd gen V-cache, didn't know that Zen 3 and 4 used the same V-cache

[candid flame]

release next month? pog

[modern gull]

Wonder if it's better than 7800x3d 🤔

[toxic wigeon]

Probably barely.

[modern gull]

That CPU like still top tier vs newer ones

[toxic wigeon]

The only people that will be getting it are people that are moving on from am4 / making new computers like Cats and I.

[modern gull]

We'll see I guess 🤷

[candid flame]

newer gen of 3d v cache so it should be better right?

[toxic wigeon]

Maybe?

We'll see when it arrives.

It's probably the start of something new that allows for improvement.

Like a gen 11 gen 12 intel situation.

[candid flame]

I'm still thinking of getting the 7800x3d because it's priced appropriately, and probably will be at a discount when the newer ones are out

[modern gull]

I mean, if it's worth I could get new one now though 🤷 just upgraded to AMD and the am5 platform

[toxic wigeon]

Where gen 11 was really bad but gen 12 was significantly better.

[toxic wigeon]

Price trends making it more expensive. Honestly you may as well make the decision when it's out.

[raven dock]

i hope not i just bought it

[toxic wigeon]

The more important part being what's the cheapest while providign the most power.

Honestly.

Even if the 9800x3d is any better you still have a really good CPU.

[modern gull]

Ya ya ofc

[modern gull]

7800 top tier though, so don't worry too much I'd say 😜

[raven dock]

yeah but i still wanna have "the best cpu for gaming"

[molten flame]

5000X3D and 7000X3D use 1st gen V-cache while 9000X3D series uses new 2nd gen, it could be a significant change

[candid flame]

anything would still be better than intel

[toxic wigeon]

It could definitely be the start of something good.

[coarse nimbus]

Skill issue just get one of the bins that's not fucked up

[toxic wigeon]

It's annoying because I'm expecting something better than whatever the hell the 9000 series was.

[modern gull]

Funny enough in that case 7800 still probably the best actually 🤔 I am surprised it even beats newer ones at times

[toxic wigeon]

9000 series is just generationally bad.

It's good to get into but not to upgrade straight away to.

[modern gull]

Ngl i wanted to buy 9750, but then I realized it would be money wasted. Mostly thinking outside gaming then, I wouldn't need the extra cores and CPU power

I had i9900k and in terms of CPU power that is all I needed, but sadly it was not so good for gaming. 7800x3d is faster and bretter for gaming

[raven dock]

i had an option to buy 9750 for a cheaper price than 7800x3d but like why would i buy a cpu thats worse for gaming (like the only thing i do on my pc) so i just went with 7800x3d

[modern gull]

7800x3d would be best choice for most people tbh, specially gamers

Unless you doing a lot of creative work that needs decent cpu

Mostly just means less waiting time

[raven dock]

i heard once that more cores is better for strategic games

idk if thats true

but if it is that would mean 9750x3d would be better for like hoi4 or something

[willow schooner]

7950x3d isn't really worse for gaming now. It was at its launch, due to scheduling issues. But those have largely been resolved now.

Plus if you could get it cheaper, why wouldn't you? You can just disable CCD1 and essentially have a higher clocking, better binned 7800x3d

[raven dock]

i didnt know about any of that stuff 2 months ago when i built my pc

[willow schooner]

Makes sense, fair enough

[molten flame]

7950X3D can be configured to where games use strictly the V-cache CCD or you can disable the other CCD

7950X3D V-cache CCD clocks about ~200MHz higher than 7800X3D

[willow schooner]

As long as you use balance power plan, with game bar enabled, it automatically does this.

[molten flame]

if you disable the non-3D CCD on the 7950X3D it becomes a binned 7800X3D

maybe not that simple

[modern gull]

Genre of games don't matter one bit tbh. For me personally the 7800 seems all I need for now, thinking creative stuff. For gaming this basically top tier anyway, also if you don't want to bother installing drivers ect. I know the other ones needs drivers and software to work their best

[toxic wigeon]

Oh so they've fixed that have they?

The 7950x2d

3d

LOL

X2d more l2 cache

[raven dock]

yes but in strategic games it has to generate a lot of stuff at the same time like wars in asia when youre playing in europe

or something

[toxic wigeon]

X1d more l1 cache.

[molten flame]

X4D

4th dimension cache

[brave sundial]

I'll wait for the 9950

[pale quartz]

to be the bearer of bad/good news it won't be worth an upgrade

[pale quartz]

yes and no it still happens, cross ccd traversal is the main problem which still occurs to this day, it's not a processor actual consumers can buy unless you know what you're getting yourself into

disabling a ccd is rather pointless because there are games which prefer frequency and in that situation you just made obsolete (a reason) for the purchase

to those asking if it will be worth buying when you have zen 4 the answer will definitely be no

[willow schooner]

My GF has a 5800x and is considering getting 9800X3D

[pale quartz]

it will be worth that situation

any am4 platform more or less

[molten flame]

wonder if Zen 6 is truly coming to AM5...

AM6 platform will probably come out at Q4 2026, 2027 at the latest

AM5 won't have the same longevity as AM4 did

[toxic wigeon]

I wonder if the fold will ever use the snapdragon 8 elite.

[brave sundial]

when will Qualcomm stop with the name changes

[small zinc]

Broke down and bought the Asus Rog Ally X. Seems to be the "best" handheld currently. Looked at the OneXPlayer, and it's $200 more for the same performance and storage. Steam Deck is just simply underpowered. Lenovo Legion Go seems nice, but battery life on a bigger screen just simply isn't there. Every other Chinese knockoff is pretty much the same thing (AyoNeo, GPD Win etc.)

"Z1 Extreme APU" Spoken AMD 7840u with a 780m

Having an eGPU would be nice. Lots of "on the go" 7600 USB C docks out there, but might be a little cumbersome for my deployment. Pretty much just going to turn the ROG Ally X into an emulation handheld anyway.

[brave sundial]

I think you mean gave in? broke down implies something bad happened.

Have they fixed the sd card issues?

[small zinc]

Sort of did....Having to make this deployment afterall when I'm supposed to transfer in January. Got told today that I'm making the full deployment and to plan for that.

[brave sundial]

Oh damn

Well the ally will keep you company fortunately

Looks like the perfect emulation handheld if you can afford it

[small zinc]

As far as SD Card issues, can't speak to that. But seems like the Ally X is a much improved version of the OG Ally. Specifically battery life. Increased memory too seems to help as well.

[brave sundial]

Seriously the fact that you can play ps3 games on the go still wows me

I mean even if does kill battery, it's still very nice to have that in a handheld form factor

[toxic wigeon]

https://youtu.be/ZS_Xj2se_fo?si=8PxqUn59RkywdT2n

[small zinc]

The only thing that is a little funny/ironic to me is that it's a 1080 120 hz display. Pretty confident other than emulating (at least retro emulation) there isn't a modern game that can ever fully utilize that resoultion and refresh rate. Not at 30 watts of power draw.

Unfortunately handhelds just quite aren't there yet in terms of power. The APU's are simply just underpowered to take advantage of modern AAA gaming. Waiting on Ryzen Zen 5 handhelds to see what happens with those. But gotta take what I can get right now

But yeah, for emulation, seems to be spot on.

[toxic wigeon]

I've caught myself saying switch deck when talking about the steam deck as it's essentially the same thing but more powerful.

Or in better words. More flexible.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/nvidia-ceo-confirms-there-was-a-design-flaw-in-blackwell-chip-now-fixed

Someone said they use AI to help design architectures

God I hope that's not true

[pale quartz]

they dont

[brave sundial]

How would that even work

[willow schooner]

It wouldn't

[lost cargo]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directsr-preview-fsr-3-1-upscaler/

free FSR 3.1 for everyone essentially

[sullen zealot]

Excellent

[pale quartz]

nope

directSR needs to be implemented in games and similar to fsr this is a new SDK version

[lost cargo]

I see. What about Nvidia’s DSR?

Or that’s different since it’s Nvidia’s software based?

[ivory creek]

so i got a screen protector installed on my new phone by a phone store and its perfect other than theres a tiny dot of dust or something, in the size of a single pixel at a bottom corner, do i learn to live with it or go and complain about it?

[pale quartz]

diff, NV DSR isnt the same

[lost cargo]

I see

[ivory creek]

i kinda would feel bad to have them get an enitre new thing just for a tiny dot, but idk

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXLY8kEdR1c&ab_channel=GamersNexus

Intel is practically 2 generations behind AMD now lmfao

285K is slower than 13700K

This is worse than Rocket-Lake

[digital hill]

Wait what the ultra something something and didn’t it use a shitload of power?

[molten flame]

370 watts under full load

[lost cargo]

Early development bro

Or pre patched

[digital hill]

Bruh

Intel must have lost the good engineers

[brave sundial]

I mean, it is alot more efficient though no?

Like zen 5. Though alot of people expect performance improvements with each new gen release I suppose

[molten flame]

not really, it pulls more power through the ATX 24-pin cable for some reason, which increases system instability

seems like software bug

[brave sundial]

[molten flame]

also power draw spikes