technology

[brave sundial]

Nintendo is the family console, they're not really competing much with Sony

it's over for console gamers

[lofty light]

They know that pc is still more expensive but it’s less so now

Just get a steam deck

[lost cargo]

Sony basically showed how greedy they are by showing off PS5 pro and its price

In reality it’s a minor upgrade, ain’t much tbf.

But aye if you wanna spend more money on a minor upgrade for a pro. Go at it

Also no disc version

Disc version prob be 1k usd tbh

[pale quartz]

ehh more complicated than that

Sony don't exactly have the finances to run thin margins anymore on the consoles and the yens exchange rate is absolutely terrible

[candid flame]

DIE YEN DIE

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtUJ2nDxZo

they need to flip things around with Zen 6

launch 3D cache SKUs first for the gamers/enthusiasts, or just have 3D cache by default for all future gens

[pale quartz]

the architecture is not pointless

these changes had to happen one way or another because they were so far behind

that is the fact of the situation, whether gamers like it or not is a different story

[tawny mauve]

makes sense

I love the ssd being 2tb

[brave sundial]

while the pound is only getting stronger

but as a result we get screwed hard with the pro's price

[jagged mango]

Hello everyone I realized that there are about 50 megabytes missing from the Battlefield 5 game files, then I clicked repair from the EA website. But I played this mode a lot. Could I be banned because of that?

[pale quartz]

nope

[prime jasper]

There could be gigabytes missing from my drives and I'd have no idea

[lost cargo]

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1833857872108585372?s=46

[coarse nimbus]

No embed..I'm not clicking that

[brave sundial]

https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/microsoft-gaming-layoffs-650-employees-1236141947/

Phil couldn't have Sony hog all the negative press for themselves

[coarse nimbus]

Just raise the Xbox price, ez money fix

[tawny mauve]

also@revanchist
https://x.com/PlayStation/status/1834155371868324004

[brave sundial]

finally ps5 will get themes

[umbral crater]

i love microsoft products
totally not a piece of broken shit

[digital hill]

Have you tried throwing it out

[umbral crater]

i did but forced to use it again

[dry pike]

Except for all the shitty things, Windows is great.

[umbral crater]

click on onedrive once and your entire files gets moved around

thank you bill gates

[dry pike]

You have to do more than click it, but yes Onedrive is fucked.

[umbral crater]

i had to like sign to other account for one thing

and for some reason the backup feature was on

[dry pike]

you only need 1 microsoft account

perhaps you just need to format

have a windows computer long enough and kinda have to do that anyways

[umbral crater]

yeah i know but it was a completely different one

now i have to drag and drop everything to my local

3 Trillion dollar company

now its not responding

great

[dry pike]

https://tenor.com/view/windows-fail-format-formatting-hard-disk-gif-19553836

[digital hill]

Man that is it

It’s such a terrible unmodern meme

[dry pike]

Didn't notice the ending actually. Just wanted to hint at formatting

[digital hill]

I just noticed how it used windows classic and not using the modern windows for a better joke

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/motherboards/high-end-intel-z890-motherboards-will-support-up-to-ddr5-9200-ram-64-higher-than-the-rumored-arrow-lake-native-support-for-ddr5-5600

[cursive marten]

Has Intel unfucked their CPU's yet

[midnight crypt]

They can't unfuck permanent damage

[cursive marten]

have they started respecting warranties yet, at least?

[pale quartz]

yes

[molten flame]

Wonder if I can hold off with AM4 until AM6

Gonna wait for Ryzen 9 AI 12950X3D PRO

5800X3D is still strong

[pale stirrup]

REDMOND, Wash., Updated, Feb. 20, 2004 — On Thursday, February 12, Microsoft became aware the Microsoft Windows 2000 and Windows NT 4.0 "source code", on te w3c'z nets... n tingz.

Mar. 3, 2018 NordVPN got prawned four fisted brother chan style. Yet, none of you seem at all concerned. EA... challenge everything, including common sense.

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-ehrmantraut-breaking-bad-better-call-saul-what-is-bro-doing-what-are-you-doing-gif-25846043

[pale stirrup]

The one good thing that has happened in the gaming world, the biggest and best move ever made by a gaming company, was when Steam started on Linux. The best thing for gaming, developers and your customers. But hey... install some lame kernel mode driver into Winblows.... because even M$FT aren't sure they want to stick with it.

Bravo! Good choice E.A.

[coarse nimbus]

I hope they're in an EU timezone.. it's too early to be drinking this heavily in na

[pale stirrup]

Friday 11pm, Australia. Since AI is now making hackers lives y

way easier than ever...

Linux is now the only choice.

Tails has another side, Heads. You might want to take a look into it.

[candid flame]

I don't give a fuck about linux though

[pale stirrup]

the world doesn't care

[coarse nimbus]

But you can literally build your own operating system

[candid flame]

what am I, poor?

[coarse nimbus]

[pale stirrup]

the same as everyone, including myself. Consumer, trapped in an insecure, shitty world, created out of corporate greed, poor judgement and lacking anything resembling critical thinking, until someone else is pulling them out of a hole.

Microsoft didn't even build software originally. They licensed it.

For a computer to even be considered possibly secure, it needs to be open source. Security can not be implied. As Jeffrey, Bill

Bill's mate found out

that's all. Have a nice weekend everyone! 🙂

[coarse nimbus]

The convicts really need to stop hitting the booze so hard

[stuck tangle]

no one cares bout linux

[dapper saffron]

Linux has Microsoft Xbox game pass?

[lost cargo]

I don’t think so

[brave sundial]

No, gamepass requires windows to work

[dapper saffron]

It was a joke

[quick locust]

I use Linux but I dont schizopost

Mans crazy

[molten flame]

Windows is eating our pets

[brave sundial]

He's probably a templeos user

[brave sundial]

https://youtu.be/NFyYAeF8QTc

qualcomm finally did it

Also Intel losing their shit over possibly not getting those foundry subsidies anymore

[turbid verge]

this is the usual loop every year

new CPU gets leaked. The brand is beating the other brand

the 8 gen 4 wont be available till the S25 releases which should be in February

Now its the 6 months cycle we have between TSMC with Apple and Qualcomm with the Snapdragon

[brave sundial]

Not really, the Chinese brands will be out with phones with it by next month lol

[turbid verge]

the big plus size I can see in this is

healthy competition between apple and android hardware phones

[brave sundial]

I'm interested in the oneplus 14

[brave sundial]

Mediatek is solid competition too, newer dimensitys are holding on their own

[turbid verge]

tbh I always think the chinese phones are the biggest ass made out there. Shit firmwares and dont even use the best out of the CPU besides shoking them with the most pointless services and background programms running on it

[turbid verge]

mediatek has been doing some killing CPU's for tablets, that I can respect from them

I prefer how samsung and even sony at least takes the snapdragon and tries to squeeze as much performance without trying to shock it and killing your batery within a span of less than 2 years of constant use

Not gonna mention google here with the stock android and their Tensor CPU since its a very different story. But got respect them for making some really good phones as well

[digital hill]

Damn, they finally got performance

[brave sundial]

Tensor was never meant to be competitive, Google have stated that multiple times

[digital hill]

any mediatek tablet was like shit

[turbid verge]

yeh thats why I didnt mention google here. They have different plans for their type of hardware

think about it. At least its not an exynos

[brave sundial]

It's more like the opposite. They're very aggressive with background services, doesn't like it when something that's not official is running in the background.

[pale quartz]

ehh

ehhhh

it's a bit more complicated

[turbid verge]

Iam pretty sure the Tensor CPU is like designed how google wants to use it

its like saying Apple designs their own hardware in function to use it with the OS

optimized workloads

something like that

[digital hill]

Which phones, you got the one that are good or ok for price and then the phones that lies on the specs

[turbid verge]

Pretty sure the most recent iteration of the Tensor is to focus AI stuff(?)

[brave sundial]

Yeah, there's a reason Nvidia partnered with them. They're solid competition to Snapdragon now

[pale quartz]

the mechanism called deep sleep is a feature by google, not phone manufacturers, what they can do however is control the aggressiveness of (that behaviour), OnePlus and others used it to inflate performance figures and it more or less decreases battery life rather ironically if it's too aggressive

[turbid verge]

basically anything out of china lol

[pale quartz]

Samsung have their own custom behaviour which is separate

[digital hill]

Did you forget who builds the iphone

[turbid verge]

India now

[digital hill]

Ah they moved away from china?

[pale quartz]

the comparisons with processors though are void because Chinese manufacturers are forbidden from using Qualcomm SoCs pretty much

[turbid verge]

yes, apple is moving most of the stuff out of china

[pale quartz]

they have to use the Kirin line

[digital hill]

Ah, just like many corporation, any reason?

[turbid verge]

my airpods pro 2 USB-C were made in china because they were part of the first batches

[digital hill]

Cheaper labor?

[turbid verge]

now they're made in vietnam

[brave sundial]

Yeah Huawei's kirin is like 3 years behind now

[turbid verge]

something somethng China and US economy war

[digital hill]

Ah the tarriffs

[turbid verge]

but for context China doesnt build the iphone never did

[pale quartz]

which is actually pretty impressive given the restrictions

[turbid verge]

they assemble it only

the most important parts come from Taiwan, Korea and Japan

[pale quartz]

they do, just not directly

[turbid verge]

yeh

[pale quartz]

the phone yes, the sourced materials not so much

you cannot build a phone without using china in some capacity

[turbid verge]

I mean India is big enough and has a lot of labor for it

[digital hill]

India is 2nd in world population

[brave sundial]

Eh I've been having nothing but great battery life on my 8 Pro.

Only after more than 3 years of heavy usage have I noticed the battery degraded. Don't really need to upgrade right now so I'll just replace the battery and use it for another year.

[turbid verge]

although China has the supply chains for components etc

[digital hill]

Oh no wait

[pale quartz]

yes its not in the function of the battery life

[turbid verge]

pretty sure that small or basic electronic components come like 90% from china

[digital hill]

Is basicially number 1 in largest population of a nation

[turbid verge]

like idk a simple LED lol

[pale quartz]

it's wasteful and stupid because what it does is make background memory irrelevant and forces more CPU cycles to reboot an application

[turbid verge]

how battery life on the pixel 9's?

havent seen much about it

[pale quartz]

alright more or less

nothing exceptional in particular

[turbid verge]

idk if the tensor is a power hungry boy

[turbid verge]

So on pair with the indsutry I would guess

[brave sundial]

Yeah the Chinese tsmc is catching up pretty good

[turbid verge]

biggest W I've seen lately in all phone designs mostly google or apple or samsung or sony is the battery replacement now is less of and headache for 3rd party

[brave sundial]

Decent, idk why many reviewers called it the best on android ever though

[turbid verge]

they wont catch taiwan or the US that soon

[pale quartz]

essentially yeah, if you're talking about iOS then no comparison is close because androids memory management is infinitely more ass

though you get a gimped battery in return

[brave sundial]

Yeah, but the baby steps they're taking rn are not bad

[turbid verge]

I mean I dont blame them. Fact you got work with android and then those UI's on top are a big ass to manage all of it

although you get the trade off between android and apple

[brave sundial]

I hate that their response to that is just slapping more ram on it

[turbid verge]

apple have smaller batteries true, but ios optimization is really good

[brave sundial]

A phone doesn't need 24GB of it

[turbid verge]

androids ahve bigger batteries but not as good management

it is what it is

and acceptable tbh

[pale quartz]

nah it's because it can't be changed without breaking reverse backward compatibility more or less, an artifact of an old time

[brave sundial]

Meanwhile Apple out here is doing just fine with a third of that

[pale quartz]

and also why the android stack is a pain in the ass

[turbid verge]

We need Android 2

[brave sundial]

Fucshia:

[pale quartz]

fuschia is functionally dead

[brave sundial]

Well technically it isn't, the hub stuff runs it

[pale quartz]

I mean for ambitions of replacing android

[brave sundial]

but yeah what a load of nothing

[pale quartz]

more or less white noise now

[turbid verge]

didnt samsung said something about making their own mobile os at some point?

idk could be imagining something

[pale quartz]

some 7 odd years ago yeah but will never happen now

[brave sundial]

At that time their relations with google wasn't that good

[turbid verge]

I guess the R&D on it led to nothing

or they made a partnership agreement with the devil

[pale quartz]

theyd immediately kill their phones the moment they tried anything like that

it was just an experiment announcement nothing in particular at the time

[brave sundial]

But tizen OS on the watches was pretty good

[turbid verge]

just look at huawei

[brave sundial]

What do you mean HarmonyOS is just a heavily disguised android fork

[pale quartz]

^

[brave sundial]

it's totally different bro, they use hpks or whatever instead of apk

[pale quartz]

it is android, much like every single non iOS OS that exists

now whether people recognise it, different question

[brave sundial]

Maybe one day Linux on phones will be successful

we just have to hope lads

[turbid verge]

I mean most people know if its not iphone its android so saying

[turbid verge]

Windows mobile returns

[pale quartz]

the AOSP is built from linux

[brave sundial]

I remember when everyone was high af on copium for project "Andromeda' or whatever from MS

Turned out to be that foldable phone called the 'duo' which just ran android on their special launcher lmao

People thought it would be the return of windows mobile

[turbid verge]

got love microsoft shenanigans sometimes

[pale quartz]

windows mobile was always going to be a failure it stood no chance

[turbid verge]

I mean they tried to make it exclusive with Nokia too

and turned out, well yeh

although motorola is somehow interesting these days

so is Sony

[brave sundial]

You mean lenovo

But surprisingly they're doing pretty good these days with the razrs

Now if only their update policy would actually not suck ass

[turbid verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0IrhzrhR40

also

[pale quartz]

I've used it ignore the glorified marketing

[brave sundial]

I'll wait for anthropic's response to that

[pale quartz]

heavily overhyped

[brave sundial]

OpenAI in a nutshell

[pale quartz]

it's interesting but not that impressive as it falls apart because as it turns out llms can't think even if openai want to convince you otherwise so they can get you to pay for vanity features

[brave sundial]

New Xperia I looks great but the pricing..

I'm shocked they're still making enthusiast phones

Wouldn't that be a burning money pit for them lmao

[pale quartz]

nah

[brave sundial]

Oh wait I forgot about the other Xperias

[pale quartz]

Sony still control the camera market, that gives them leverage for phones

[brave sundial]

The 5 and 7 and whatever which are better priced

[brave sundial]

What about Samsung?

[pale quartz]

they control the android market

[brave sundial]

Oh I thought you meant the phone camera lens market, my bad

[pale quartz]

nah lmao

Samsung themselves just use Sony cameras

[turbid verge]

apple uses as well

so does google

same for display, both sony, apple and google use samsung displays

but ofc there's always the "I make this so I wont supply you the best since competition for a superior product"

[molten coral]

I liked my windows phone back in the day

oh I should have scrolled down

[turbid verge]

lmao

[brave sundial]

[coarse nimbus]

Discord moment

[molten coral]

new phone in 7 days

[willow schooner]

Nice

[turbid verge]

Iam going to reserve mine now

Its like almost 9pm here

My day has been busy as fuck since 7am

[molten coral]

[turbid verge]

Iam enjoying it

Got some beers with coworkers

After work

Got a new watch

[molten coral]

nice

[turbid verge]

Casio vintage

[molten coral]

sounds like a good day

[turbid verge]

Also send a msg to someone on a possible date

And had to deal with tons of stuff at the company

So wanna get some mcdonalds. Go reserve my phone and go home play space marines 2

Grind my sniper class

[lost cargo]

Imma stay with my 15 pro for a while

16 looks nice and actually have new stuff. But imma wait couple years

[brave sundial]

Meanwhile me sticking with a phone that came out more than 4 years ago

I don't care about camera quality, I'm more than happy with what it offers with everything else

[molten coral]

my next new phone will be in 2030

[molten flame]

AMD EPYC Turin uses Zen 5c cores on 3nm, 16 cores per CCD. Only disappointment is having just 128 PCIe 5.0 lanes, same amount as last 2 previous generations

[lost cargo]

I got my baby

Ditching the Corsair keyboard is a blessing

[dense urchin]

i like the razer keyboards

had a blackwidow elite for 4 years now

looking at the website i dont think they even make my model anymore....tf

[lost cargo]

I had one. I forgot what it was. It was an old 60% size one.

Anyways tho, this huntsman pro v3 feels really nice and premium

[dense urchin]

yeah the new versions do seem better quality

[lost cargo]

Especially from a Corsair keyboard.

[dense urchin]

i like corsair mice, not the keyboard tho.

[lost cargo]

Man this is worth. Also don’t like Corsair I missed Razer keyboard

[dense urchin]

looking on the razer website makes me want to get a new keyboard but there is literally no point

[lost cargo]

I have Razer headset, keyboard and mouse. Tried other brands. I don’t like the feel and the quality of them

[dense urchin]

the headsets id say there are better options out there. keyboards id recommend razer however and mice id probably go with Logitech

[lost cargo]

Last time I owned a logictech mouse. It just came out, got it. And stop working after 2 weeks

No water damage or anything

[dense urchin]

hahahah

in all fairness i had a g502 and it stopped working randomly one day so i just threw it away and got a new one i dont really like any other mice

i like razer but the prices for alot of the items are stupid, keyboards are the only thing id buy again from razer, I used to be a massive razer fanboy but after trying other things i only have 2 razer products now

[lost cargo]

Brand spanking new still. I said f this. And got me a Razer viper wired mouse. Now I have the basilisk v3 pro. Love it to death. Especially the 8k polling rate. I have the old viper mouse in my closet. Still works like brand new

[dense urchin]

the viper is a good mouse tbf, popular atleast.

[lost cargo]

I had the OG one. They don’t make it anymore

My last keyboard. I gave it to my bro cuz he asked me for it in his birthday. He wanted a razer 60% keyboard. I said sure keep it.
My friend said Corsair is the best for keyboards. After couple weeks. I don’t like it. After a year, I finally got this huntsman v3 pro tkl

Now the Corsair keyboard is back in its box in my closet

[quick locust]

Linux already dominates phone market

But yeah open unlocked Ubuntu/SuSE/Arch ones are few and far between

[willow schooner]

Returned mine as it had dodgy software issues and games are starting to ban it's main functions use.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-fsr4-will-be-fully-ai-based-focusing-on-improving-power-efficiency-and-battery-life-for-handhelds

nice

[brave sundial]

inb4 they called it AIFSR 4

[lost cargo]

I am but I’m not surprised that AMD gave up on high end GPUs

Nvidia beat it for a very hot min now

[coarse nimbus]

$800 gpu isnt high end?

[midnight crypt]

Soaking up most of the low-mid end might help them compete later down the line

Hopefully

[lost cargo]

I think AMD is focusing on mid range cards. Cuz customers chase after them more

[willow schooner]

They always have been lol

they just stopping making higher end cards totally now

[candid flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-plans-for-fsr4-to-be-fully-ai-based-designed-to-improve-quality-and-maximize-power-efficiency

[brave sundial]

bro didn't scroll up

[coarse nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/they-never-do-dove-bodkin-they-never-have-siobhán-cullen-gif-1582074307326890503

[dense urchin]

Yeah they are more flimsy then the razer keyboards and they are just as expensive, I’ve got a 100% keyboard but if I ever change it I’d probs get a TKL huntsman or BlackWidow, I can’t stand 60% keyboards

[lost cargo]

I got a TKL

[quick locust]

Thatll be the new entry level

[quaint kestrel]

Pretty certain that 8k poll is unnoticable

1k to 4k is alr very unnoticable

And some games dont even work well with 4k poll tbh

[pale quartz]

most games wont work well above 1k because the CPU polling sspikes things massively

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-epyc-4124p-quad-core-cpu-overclocked-to-6-7-ghz-on-consumer-motherboard

[pale quartz]

non article the board does support it

[quaint kestrel]

Ye

[toxic flame]

can anyone help me with the game not launching? it says:
"Please launch the game from your distribution platform. If the issue persist, please repair your game and try again."

I am launching via steam?

[pale quartz]

#direct-communication

[digital hill]

It didn't beat the i9-14900ks with 9.12hz overclock

[toxic wigeon]

-CPU dead on next day cause it's intel.

[digital hill]

Even the pentium 4

on 8ghz

Then the celeron d somehow took over and defeated that

[toxic flame]

can anyone help me with the game not launching? it says:
"Please launch the game from your distribution platform. If the issue persist, please repair your game and try again."

I am launching via steam?

[molten flame]

4070 seems to draw a lot more power when idle than RX 6600

when my PC is idle it's blowing a lot of hot air, suggesting that there is a lot of idle power draw

[coarse nimbus]

What do the numbers say

[lost cargo]

Undervolt, ez fix

Can get same performance with less power

[cursive marten]

https://spkeyboards.com/blogs/news/signature-plastics-to-be-acquired-2025 Here's something that will be of interest if you're into mechanical keyboards at all.

Signature Plastics, a company that's primarily known for manufacturing custom keycap sets, is being acquired by a group of mechanical keyboard enthusiasts running an investment group.

This comes after the former owner announced that he was planning to retire.

[digital hill]

@pale quartz can some SAS drives be incompatible with servers

[pale quartz]

?

[digital hill]

like I bought 6 sas drives and every single one did this

red indicating drive failure

even if they were packed incredibly well

and the only thing working is a single ssd that it can detect

This is an hp proliant server I own

and all the drives are exactly the same

caddies were bought seperately

[pale quartz]

theres no guarantee theyre compatible, the controller can be locked or it could be vendor locked down

[digital hill]

for the drives like there is no way to unlock them?

[pale quartz]

nope

[digital hill]

How would I know between if it is the controller versus the vendor?

[pale quartz]

well you cant know lol

just how it goes

[digital hill]

Damn so contact the seller of these drives

and see whether I could return them based on incompatibility

Damn this is just like printers

Rejects ink because it isn't hp

[pale quartz]

ye welcome to treading with fire

[digital hill]

True and hp hid the size of the screw for caddy

they were m3

[crystal hinge]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/16/24246234/playstation-6-rumor-sony-intel-amd

[pale quartz]

isn't new news just regurgitated nonsense we've known for years

[digital hill]

Don't you hate how the hp recovery disk

for vista

isn't compatible with a hp server

[cursive marten]

average HP Recovery Disk moment

[digital hill]

True with a hp machine

will send this to hp

[molten flame]

https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-zen-5-owners-club-9600x-9700x-9900x-9950x.1811777/page-53?post_id=29367758#post-29367758

New BIOS for Ryzen 9000 series that improves inter-core latency tremendously

75 nanoseconds which is equal/better than 7000 series

[coarse nimbus]

why dont they wait till these updates are ready before sending them out

[molten flame]

https://x.com/lauriewired/status/1836486191056851248

LaurieWired (@lauriewired) on X

Hyperthreading is Dead.

Major CPU manufacturers (including Intel) are getting ready to abandon SMT hyperthreading completely.

It's not as crazy as you think. In fact, Apple, Qualcomm, and Samsung have never used Hyperthreading.

But why?

🧵

Twitter · Sep 18, 2024, 7:23 PM

[pale quartz]

ehh

sorta half right

kinda half wrong

I've already talked about why HT would ultimately need to be removed in here a while ago but the thread isn't correct with some details

[molten flame]

AMD seems to be the only company that wants to stick with it

[toxic wigeon]

What do they plan to replace hyperthreading with?

Or have we moved past it.

[molten flame]

Efficiency cores provides better performance-per-watt than hyperthreading, at least in Intel's case

I guess 8 cores without HT is enough for gaming, but definitely not for 6-core CPUs

6c/6t will struggle in recent games

[toxic wigeon]

Reckon they'll eventually stop doing 6 core CPUs?

[molten flame]

nah lol

[quick locust]

I mean maybe eventually like single and dual core

[toxic wigeon]

It's a good number for cores.

[quick locust]

But going to take a looong time for that

[molten flame]

I wanna see a SKU with 10 P-cores since HT is going away

[toxic wigeon]

It's always annoyed me Intel has skimped the p cores.

[quick locust]

You want them to have even higher power consumption? /s

[toxic wigeon]

Haha

They must push for 600w

[brave sundial]

Just replace all the E cores with P

[toxic wigeon]

But isn't one part of their inefficiency just the core scheduling?

Or just bad architecture.

[quick locust]

Uarch and current node

And pushing them so hard they began dying

LNL seems good for both of these

[modern gull]

Thinking that too, also frequency would make a diffrence too i am thinking

[molten flame]

increasing clockspeed or IPC won't help if you need more cores/threads

[modern gull]

I guess, but when do you know you would need more cores for a game over cpu speed alone 🤔

[molten flame]

maybe the new E-cores for Arrow-Lake are fast enough now that games can offload onto them?

[modern gull]

Well, kind of dumb question as you get more cores too work

[modern gull]

I see

🤷

[molten flame]

Panther-Lake-S desktop supposedly canceled

[toxic wigeon]

What would have that been?

[midnight crypt]

Why would a game ever use E cores

[molten flame]

I think the generation after Arrow-Lake

[modern gull]

Oxidation premium

Just joking 😛

[toxic wigeon]

Err

Gen 16?

[pale quartz]

CPU (clock) speed has a marginal effect on games as 95% of them will be GPU bound, you don't need to know this, multi threading implementations handle themselves for the most part

if you are CPU bound increasing your clock speed will do fuck all anyways

[brave sundial]

what will happen now

[pale quartz]

APO

[modern gull]

I guess with modern games more cores matter in the end and frequency increase gives very little overall 🤔

[toxic wigeon]

What'd be the solution for making CPUs better in CPU bound instances? Cores?

[pale quartz]

ehh not exactly, isn't to do with architecture, just on how a game reacted to a uarch design

[toxic wigeon]

I know cache is one thing

[pale quartz]

no, IPC

[toxic wigeon]

Oh that's fair

I wish the 9000 series at least had better IPC but DOA.

[pale quartz]

bound in games means single threaded specifically, HT won't solve that as there is a slight performance penalty with the instantiation of threads

#technology message see here for a long technical explanation on hyperthreading

[modern gull]

I see, i see 🤔 Talking about that is something i dont know about

[pale quartz]

not a bad thing, it's a labyrinth of a topic with many asterisks and caveats applied when talking about it

[modern gull]

Probably gonna fall off first word

[molten flame]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9700x-performance-smt-disabled/22.html

2-3% performance gain in 1080p gaming if you disable SMT on 9700X

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-and-rtx-3090-mark-4-years-since-launch

👴

[coarse nimbus]

What are they using..an og ribbon cable?

[digital hill]

They be transferring via the first generation wifi

[tawny mauve]

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/windows-app-now-available-on-all-major-platforms/ba-p/4246939

[brave sundial]

So this is just a more streamlined and better designed remote desktop?

[toxic wigeon]

There should be a computer shop named rams and it just sells ram sticks.

No wait

RamRus

[molten flame]

there might be a small company that bins RAM sticks, selling the higher overclocking ones for a premium

that used to happen more commonly with CPUs but nowadays CPUs are already at their clock limits out-of-box

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-ai-max-395-to-feature-16-zen5-cores-and-40-rdna3-5-cus-strix-halo-lineup-leaks-out

Strix Halo APU memory bandwidth is 240 GB/s, supports quad-channel memory

mind you, desktop 8600G/8700G APUs only go up to like ~96 GB/s bandwidth

[tawny mauve]

Ps5 pro supports wifi 7

[midnight crypt]

Welcome to current year

[tawny mauve]

the normal one is wifi 6 and xbox series is wifi 5

[midnight crypt]

Didn't ask

[tawny mauve]

rude

[brave sundial]

That really does make it worth $700

[tawny mauve]

🤲same number

[ivory edge]

s

[digital hill]

ah I have a meme

No one uses wifi 7 yet

[lost cargo]

Rip

https://ambassadors.microsoft.com/xbox/blog/celebrating-the-legacy-and-evolution-of-the-xbox-ambassadors

[tawny mauve]

iphone 16 has wifi 7 too

[ivory creek]

just read that rtx 4090 might stop being produced in oktober and might increase in price

yikes

[wet notch]

he was here this morning according to the chat search

it's friday, maybe the dude is out partying or something

[lost cargo]

They are focusing on the 5090 production

[ivory creek]

yeah

[brave sundial]

https://www.wsj.com/business/deals/qualcomm-approached-intel-about-a-takeover-in-recent-days-fa114f9d

holy shit

qualcomm and Intel merging.

Would it not face scrutiny because of the current fears over China and Taiwan?

[candid flame]

not happening lol

[pale quartz]

would never be approved

[digital hill]

Pretty much, US will get involved rapidly

[digital hill]

Qualcomm is american though

but I dunno if they'll step in actually, but maybe related to monopoly stuff like google would shut it down

[bleak vessel]

Yall can you get ddosed thru 2042?

[short pawn]

anyone know how battery mah works

cuase i need to replace my new 3ds's battery

which is 1400mah

but i found one with 2000 mah

will it cause damage or

should i find 1400and under

[pale quartz]

you cannot fit it

it has to be the exact model, the mAH does not matter

[short pawn]

ya i checked some stuff online and the battery is probably faking it's number

cause its the same size as the 1400

so i just brought a 1200mah one from a well known british company i think

[brave sundial]

usually fake but larger capacity batteries do exist

for example my psp can take up to 1000mah, but real 1400mah can exist and I bought one, and it lasts for like 8 hours

but it's from a very reputable company (ostent), might want to do your research, I'd suggest using the search function on reddit on the 3DS subreddit

[lost cargo]

https://x.com/zuby_tech/status/1837442670555189684?s=46

@Zuby_Tech_Pro (@Zuby_Tech) on X

PC That Will Beat PlayStation 5 Pro:

• AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D: $513

• NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super: $599

• GIGABYTE B650 AORUS: $200

• Crucial T705 2TB PCle Gen5: $280

• Corsair DDR5 RAM 32GB AMD Expo: $120

• Thermalright Peerless Assassin CPU Cooler: $35

• MSI MAG

Twitter · Sep 21, 2024, 10:44 AM

I bought my pc for 1.5k and still performs 2x better than a ps5 pro

[brave sundial]

This really isn't some gotcha moment.

it's 3x more

[lost cargo]

Than what they offer ye

[digital hill]

I can do a gotcha moment

For twice the price of the ps5 pro, you can buy a gaming system

Ah shit I forget about case

just add $80

so $1500, without taxes give or take

and also for monitor and keyboard and mouse, add another $20 as your getting the shittest monitor

and keyboard and mouse from goodwill

[lost cargo]

Cheaper and better than a PS5 pro

You can always go on FP marketplace and get a prebuilt from someone, ask to test it and verify everything is official and correct before you buy it.

I did that and I have a strong 3080 pc at the price of 1.5k

[digital hill]

The ps5 pro is $700 while this one is 2x the cost

but 2x is still better

[lost cargo]

And last 2x longer than a console generation

It’s also upgradable

[digital hill]

True

[willow schooner]

Consoles come with a controller tho. and lets be honest, most people have a TV...so its not really something you need to factor in either for "getting started" with PC or console

[brave sundial]

Wow, more than half and without taking into account taxes

So with peripherals, a decent monitor and a windows license that rounds up to like 1900

More than double

For the consumer the PS5 pro is targetting, they likely already have the 'pc' they need, they just keep their laptop plugged in on a desk or plugged into a monitor

[vernal pendant]

you guys are paying for windows?

windows 11 is such a fucked piece of software that i think i have to main linux from now on

[prime jasper]

yeah, because pirating software became a sociopathic habit i gave up when i was 16.

[burnt coyote]

i refuse to pay 150 aud for a license

[prime jasper]

cool

[burnt coyote]

you can get oem keys for cheap

[brave sundial]

oem keys, aka disposable keys

[modern gull]

I did that but then used the key on windows 10

Recently upgraded my pc so was had too do that

[burnt coyote]

when i got my new pc i bought a windows 10 oem key then upgraded to 11 for free

[brave sundial]

I'm not defending the PS5 pro but it makes sense who Sony is targetting with it. Atleast they're not having a much better experience than regular ps5 users lol.

Not like they'll gate entire games or content to a different sku

[modern gull]

I went from win 7 too 11. But on same motherboard. Only reason i am still on win 10 with win 11 key is windows recall thing. They gonna get hammered in court i am sure. Win10/11 seems to have same keys also, at least 11 key on win 10

[brave sundial]

I mean.. I trust Sony not to do that

[lost cargo]

They do in fact share the same keys because wins11 is a free upgrade for wins 10 users

Set of making you pay for wins again.

[digital hill]

[modern gull]

My win 7 key worked fine for 11 though, was a period of time 10 was free for 7 users. But i dont want to use win 11 cause of recall. Gaming wise it makes no diffrence tbh

[digital hill]

And using them really shitty keyboard

Your using the e waste keyboards

[modern gull]

Win 10 should be supported 1 more year. Hopefully they change their opinion before that time. I am expecting some huge GDPR issues with this feature, specially considering uinstalling it is a bug

[lost cargo]

By the time wins 10 is done for. 12 will be out

I’m ready for wins12

Want something new from wins11

I like wins 11 but meh. Bored of it

[modern gull]

I wouldn't go win 12 considering what i mentioned

[burnt coyote]

windows 10 will lose support october next year

unless you want to pay for support

[modern gull]

But thinking about it, the feature itself wont even make it too windows 11, like offical version

[modern gull]

You can get more updates by paying?

[burnt coyote]

i could be wrong it might only apply to enterprise

[modern gull]

Do you know how much per year? From your knowledge at least

[burnt coyote]

you will have to google it

im not sure

[modern gull]

Fair enough,i see, i see

[burnt coyote]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/extended-security-updates

[modern gull]

Ty, doing some reading

I am not really soo good at reading

Better to just look at the images than reading too much 😛

[lost cargo]

You will get 3 years max of security updates after the last day

Commercial or educational only

[cursive marten]

I don't wanna use Windows 11, I don't wanna have AI shoved into my PC.

[burnt coyote]

you only choices then are to stay on windows 10 or move to linux

[lost cargo]

Scared of AI but AI is built into everything

[burnt coyote]

or mac os

but fuck apple

[lost cargo]

Apple uses AI

[digital hill]

@coarse nimbus

This is the shit your getting at goodwill

[cursive marten]

eh. being realistic, calling it AI is giving it too much credit, it's all just a bunch of LLMs, but they're all shit and i hate 'em.

[digital hill]

No good keyboard

[lost cargo]

Sure about that bud?

[digital hill]

For cheaping out

[cursive marten]

yes.

[digital hill]

you don't need high top gaming accessories

you need this shit, like one of this

for the mouse

and for the grand monitor

This

[lost cargo]

Positive bud?

[digital hill]

your getting the high top gaming pc, but the accessories are pure old trash

[cursive marten]

yes.

their use of AI is a marketing term.

[lost cargo]

Sure bud

Show me proof of Apple saying it’s for “Marketing”

[cursive marten]

Apple isn't going to say that themselves, it'd undermine the marketing.

[lost cargo]

So your capping

Got it

Thanks bro

[cursive marten]

i mean, sure. if you wanna believe that.

[burnt coyote]

i can only imagine the amount of ewaste when windows 10 support ends

[vernal pendant]

we should've ended microsoft in the antitrust trials

[burnt coyote]

apple amazon google meta, mocrosoft they are all the same

[burnt coyote]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/microsoft-reveals-subscription-pricing-for-using-windows-10-beyond-2025-and-it-s-not-cheap/ar-BB1l1uP5?cvid=47afb6c25a7746d3a4b9137da1a6abc9&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=11
"For the first time, Microsoft is also allowing individual users at home to join the extended support program, which will let anyone running Windows 10 pay for extended updates beyond October 2025 for three years. The price is $61 per device, but that price doubles every year for three years. That means the second year will cost you $122 per device, and the third year will cost $244 per device.
Users will be able to purchase a 5-by-5 activation key subscription starting in October 2024, which can be applied to a single PC that you intend to use Windows 10 beyond October 2025 on. You will need an individual subscription key for each PC you want to keep getting updates beyond October 2025"

[digital hill]

Finally cannot wait for new curbside gaming pc

[modern gull]

61 dollars isn't too bad, but then each year it goes down hill from there

I'll probably only pay for one year if i go through with it

All comes down to their recall feature

[burnt coyote]

at that point id just move to linux

[ivory creek]

I bought a pair of jabra elite 4 Bluetooth earbuds on like 80% sale, theyre way better sounding than the cheap wired Apple earbuds Ive been using earlier

[full patrol]

hello what do i do when i cant connect to the servers?

[midnight crypt]

You try again

[shell horizon]

Lol

[molten flame]

AMD-Intel cross patent agreement has "poison well" protection on any takeovers. It's literally impossible for Qualcomm to acquire Intel.

[cursive marten]

but

what if they did.

[terse glade]

Then they did

[last saddle]

Anyone know why BF5 causes hardware to shut down completely? I can’t seem to figure out the issue and its been obliterating every hardware I’ve had.

[modern gull]

Probably just your components dying tbh

Does the pc shut off?

[last saddle]

It only shut off when playing Bf5, honestly i’ve had 5 hours consistently playing tw3 on ultra+ and I’ve never had any issue , as to numerous other games but bf5

Thus far it’d given me about 5 shut downs, 3 black screen 2 green screens and caused the hdmi port to not recognize my monitor , then I switched from a 1660s to a 6700xt and its still crashing. Recently the game caused my gpu to switch to microsoft basic adapter

[modern gull]

At first glance i would think psu, but tw3 does use decent amount of power

[modern gull]

I see 🤔 Maybe gpu dying?

[last saddle]

I can’t tell , I’ve brought it to repair like 4 times now, I switched up the GPU , reverted to windows 10 yet it crashes all the same

[modern gull]

Game crashes or pc shuts down? Probably shuts down, but want to make sure

[last saddle]

Crashes around 20 minutes playing BF5, but tens of hours on rdr2 and tw3 there were no issues at all

[last saddle]

The pc shuts down entirely. It wouldn’t turn on so I had to bring it to repair

[modern gull]

Strange 🤔

What makes it strange is it happens in only one game

Else it would be some clear gpu issue in my eyes from what you said

"3 black screen 2 green screens and caused the hdmi port to not recognize my monitor" makes it sound more like gpu issue tbh

[last saddle]

I’m wondering the same thing too, I guess its the EA anticheat or something. Again I’ve brought the pc to repair alot of times now, the hardware had been cleaned after being fixed. Might be due to ray tracing or DX12 but I’ve ran tw3 on dx12 fine as well as metro exodus on high ray tracing without an issue.

[last saddle]

I guess I’ll check the GPU again, its probably gpu related, last time it stressed too much and just switched the adapter from a 6700xt to a microsoft basic adapter.

[modern gull]

Makes it sound like the gpu is dying some how. Maybe it's not fully seated in the pcie slot 🤷

Or not getting enough power too

What is your psu W?

[last saddle]

its a 650 watt psu, I can’t tell if its the power supply since the game used much less than the other games, at 180watt usage on the gpu alone it was still going fine, I think Bf5 only eats around 130w

[modern gull]

@pale quartz Sorry for the ping, please do yell at me if you didn't like the ping. But maybe you have a clearer idea what is happening here

Deco might have a clearer idea i am thinking, he has lot's of knowledge

[last saddle]

Oh alright, thanks alot for helping

[modern gull]

How about your cpu etc..?

[modern gull]

You are very welcome If Deco is not annoyed by the ping he might give you clearer answer

[last saddle]

Might be cpu bound, on either dx11 or dx12 with dxr the cpu was always on 100% usage, but I guess it was just building the shaders, there were frequent stutters yet the same thing happened on rdr2, though no crashes

[modern gull]

I mean, which cpu you have

Asking as of wattage 😛 Or estimated

[last saddle]

its a 12th gen i5

[modern gull]

Eitherway, for me its either psu or gpu problems, that's as clear i can be on the issue

[modern gull]

Nice ty

Is it the 12600k?

And the 6700xt right?

[last saddle]

No problem, I guess I’ll try replacing the psu along with using another gpu. Though the people at the repair shop would doubt it since only one game is causing the issue

[last saddle]

a 12400f i5 and a 6700xt

[modern gull]

Thats what makes it strange too, only in one game. And from what i know its the least demanding of the ones you mentioned

Are you sure its just not coincidence?

[last saddle]

I’ve used a 1660s and a 6700xt and both of those only had issues when playing BF5, on any other games everything on fine

The 1660s used considerably less wattage and it was sitting only a mere 80watts or something, on the 6700xt while playing exodus it was taking 180watts and above

[modern gull]

Instead of buying new stuff maybe wait a bit and see if Deco will respond, he might have a clearer idea whats happening. If it wasn't one game specific i could confidently say either psu or gpu, psu since entire pc shut down

Also one would think with "from a 6700xt to a microsoft basic adapter" that its just gpu dying or not getting power. So i guess that could point too psu also

[last saddle]

I guess its the gpu, strange that both fans were still running strong so I wonder if the drivers got deleted or something

[modern gull]

Have you tried updating the drivers though?

[last saddle]

AMD told me I was using incompatible graphics adapter so I’ll try installing it again

After the crash, neither the 6700xt nor the intel uhd graphics 710 were appearing on the list

[modern gull]

Did you download correct drivers and such?

[modern gull]

I see 🤔

[last saddle]

It was the latest version, I’ll assume it was probably a program or an app that deliberately removed the AMD driver along with the integrated intel graphics. And while BF5 was launching I noticed that the pop-up screen for the game could not be tabbed out so I’ll guess it has something to do with EA related apps

[modern gull]

Probably not though, your described sympthoms leads too psu/gpu issue. I guess in some strange case driver issue 🤷

[last saddle]

I’d doubt if the staff messed up the driver installation process twice though, I had issues with the game on windows 11, so the guy had to wipe my data and revert the OS to windows 10, so he had to install the driver again. Guess I’ll reinstall it myself. I can hear the GPU fans spinning clearly so its still kind of alive

[modern gull]

🤷

[last saddle]

Welp, I installed the driver, AMD told me there was an issue and it failed to load

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-stock-runs-dry-prices-going-up-in-germany

[lost cargo]

5090 production

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-razer-lake-s-codename-leaked-potential-future-desktop-cpu-series

[digital hill]

https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916

Finally, I can get cool fireworks from playing the most triple aa games

[pale quartz]

can't get to it till tomorrow to read the discussion, running on limited energy to catch a plane home

[modern gull]

I understand man, appologies for the ping anyway

[pale quartz]

you're good

[modern gull]

Enjoy 😛

[molten flame]

Because of the Nvidia GTC presentation for GB200 chips, the more I believe that GB202 (5090) is actually dual GB203 (5080) chips fused together (via MCM). It's the only way to explain the doubling of transistors, cores, SMs and why there is no 384-bit GPU.

5090 could be two 5080s fused together

This might also explain why despite no significant transistor density reduction, they can still increase core count by 33%. By fusing two 5080s together, they effectively solve the die size limitation of having a singular massive chip

Nvidia launches MCM GPU for gaming before Radeon

[molten flame]

https://tenor.com/view/you-see-it-is-part-plan-explain-gif-20448886

[ivory creek]

Wonder when Samsungs micro led TVs will get humane prices, its Funny that they claim that their micro led tech finally is available for peoples homes when the cheapest version atleast here cost around 80k euro, who buy a tv for that price

[terse glade]

Lmao 80k Euro, this will take 10 years until it reaches mainstream prices I guess

Maybe less

[cursive marten]

it's just a TV, what could it possibly cost? $80k?

[prime jasper]

how can you watch that amazing display through the tears of buyer's remorse?

holy shit

[prime jasper]

the smallest one, 89 inches, is $110k

[cursive marten]

what even are the benefits for that

[prime jasper]

Imagine you're sitting there, wondering which kidney to sell to pay your mortgage, and you look up and see dead pixels on your $110k tv

every pixel is its own LED

so it can be truly black

i don't know what other bells and whistles it has

[cursive marten]

can't OLED already do that?

[prime jasper]

I asked chat gpt because I had no idea. It uses inorganic materials, as opposed to OLEDs which use organic. making them more durable. micro led can get up to 10000 nits, 10x what an oled can as well

100000 hour lifespan

but still, christ. 6 figures

[cursive marten]

...i'll google it myself, I guess.

[prime jasper]

Next time I'll go into a detailed description instead. Sorry to disappoint you.

[cursive marten]

I'm not gonna trust whatever shit chatgpt spits out at face value.

[prime jasper]

I mean, it cites the sources. It's pretty much googling for me. But it's OK.

You do you.

https://www.techopedia.com/microled-tv-overview

https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-140-inch-micro-led-tv-hands-on-video-ces-2024/

https://www.samsung.com/us/tvs/micro-led/highlights/

I'm sure it was just spitting out bullshit though

[lost cargo]

Console players is built different

PS5 pro beats 5090 and 2 4090s

That shit have me dying laughing 🤣

[cursive marten]

???????

is that why Alan Wake 2 is only gonna run at 60 FPS at like, 860p or some shit?

[lost cargo]

Cuz of what?

PS5 pro dumbs down the native res for the AI to upscale it. Compared to PS5

[cursive marten]

like i swear to god i heard reports of the PS5 Pro running Alan Wake 2 at 60 FPS at some weirdo resolution

[lost cargo]

Yes PS5 pro runs lower res compared to series X and base PS5

[cursive marten]

so this is just a massive full of shit statement

...But then again these people have blue checkmarks on twitter, their opinions are basically worthless

[lost cargo]

https://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/alan-wake-2-runs-at-864p-and-60fps-on-ps5-pro/

[cursive marten]

okay so it's the same resolution but it's at 60 FPS now?

[lost cargo]

Yea

I guess so

[cursive marten]

...so that represents a slight performance improvement at most.

Which just makes it questionable why the PS5 Pro costs that much.

[lost cargo]

It’s only 15% faster than the series X

https://x.com/jmaine518/status/1835119239650312661?s=46

King J 🤴🏿 (@JMaine518) on X

Notes from the Digital Foundry Direct Weekly #180 - PS5 Pro Breakdown

The Last of Part 2 - 1440p internal resolution at 60fps in this PS5 Pro Mode (same as PS5 Performance Mode) with improved image quality due to PSSR

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart - Between 1440p and 1800p

Twitter · Sep 15, 2024, 12:51 AM

[cursive marten]

...and how much does the Series X cost?

[lost cargo]

PS5 pro didn’t even receive a cpu upgrade. If it had a cpu upgrade it would be abit faster

[cursive marten]

if it had a CPU upgrade the price would be more justified

[lost cargo]

Abt 500 usd

[cursive marten]

what is that like, $200 less?

[lost cargo]

Ye

[cursive marten]

than the PS5 Pro?

[lost cargo]

Yep

And ps5 pro have no disc drive

[cursive marten]

hold on

[lost cargo]

Series X does

[cursive marten]

i need to look up how much an original PS5 costs

About as much as a Series X.

with the disc drive.

without it it's slightly less.

If the Pro didn't even recieve a CPU upgrade, then what did they actually do with the Pro to justify releasing it as a seperate thing, let along increasing the price for the model without a disc drive?

[lost cargo]

The other specs and the PSSR technology

But I don’t see 200 usd being that much of an upgrade tbh

Especially for a 15% faster than series X

PS4 pro price wasn’t price much over the base ps4. Yet ps5 is priced way more than base ps5

[cursive marten]

If they upgraded the CPU then maybe it'd be justified

but they didn't

hell if they did that it probably would've done more.

[lost cargo]

Maybe 800 or so usd

A lot of lines will buy the pro just cuz why not. But from a tech perspective, it’s better to get a pc double the cost for double the performance and lifespan

1.5k is great enough for a good pc that will last you more than a console generation lifespan

I have a 3080 pc and it’s doing better than PS5 pro

Haven’t upgraded it in a year

[burnt coyote]

ps5 pro 🤣

[molten flame]

gonna wait for PS5 Max Pro instead

[quick locust]

They are unlikely to for a mid gen upgrade

Has to stay compatible with PS5 and not be a whole new system

Though they can raise the clocks a bit (though wont do much)

[cursive marten]

Does the performance gain really justify the increase in price tho

I don't think it does.

[quick locust]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Wonder what xbox will do

Likely similiar ish step up in gpu

Tbh my issues with PS5 Pro isnt the specs but rather the price plus not including stuff that was included with PS5

[cursive marten]

Same. I just don't think the little performance gains justifies a $200 markup

[quick locust]

Gonna have to wait for next gen for a proper cpu upgrade from either company

Also for XSS to not hold back game development lol

[molten flame]

Microsoft already stated their next-gen could use Zen 6 and RDNA5

They likely won’t make a mid-gen upgrade for Xbox and rather just release next-gen sooner

[candid flame]

when will the next gen of amd gpus coming out?

[molten flame]

After Nvidia

They never launch first

[candid flame]

I want to upgrade

they say next gen will have AI upscaling just like dlss right

[quick locust]

And XeSS

[candid flame]

intel's battlemage is probably the last gpu we see from intel for a while right?

[lost cargo]

Xbox is rumored to have a Xbox handheld

Rumored to have a next gen refresh console

[cursive marten]

Xbox handheld might go hard i think

[toxic wigeon]

It'll be really funny if Sony brings out a proper modern day handheld.

Their last one, The VITA just lost to the 3DS.

But they might have a chance now.

[lost cargo]

Remote play is the best they can do

[pale quartz]

you are triggering OCP protection on the power supply, that or the GPU is physically crashing from the clocks being too aggressive, either way it's definitely hardware related

[pale quartz]

isn't a rumour, Microsoft themselves confirmed it was real

there's just been no word since

[lost cargo]

Phill only said biggest technical leap in history. And phill wanted a handheld

[cursive marten]

didn't they bring out that Wii U looking thing

[pale quartz]

no, Microsoft not Phil Spencer, confirmed it, their plans were leaked eons ago during the FTC court case which had the handheld included

[lost cargo]

Mmm 🤔

The Activision one?

[pale quartz]

yes

[lost cargo]

I only seen the mid gen refresh console and controller

[pale quartz]

no their plans right up to the next gen console were included, those two things were at the very beginning

it stretched up to 2028 from the time at 2022

now that was 2 years ago so the handheld itself who knows, it's either cancelled or delayed, but it exists in some capacity

[lost cargo]

This

[cursive marten]

the implication that cloud blade is supposed to be better than a high-end PC is funny

[lost cargo]

Geforce upgraded their streaming servers over time. It’s way better now

[pale quartz]

it is, in cost effectiveness

it's just a matter of fact you will get nowhere close without dumping at least a few thousand $'s

[lost cargo]

Once Nvidia drops the new GPUs for servers. I think it will be better overall

A lot of companies wants the new Nvidia server GPU

[pale quartz]

Geforce now has no influence on how the h series sells

[lost cargo]

I thought it was p series

[pale quartz]

the h100, h200 is Nvidias server cards, a few others exist but that is primarily the main ones, Geforce now has no link to them at all

[lost cargo]

O that. Nevermind

My bad

[cursive marten]

"streaming is better" people annoy me. like i'm sorry, i don't have 10 gigabit internet going into my house off a fucking dirt road, that's just not gonna work well.

[pale quartz]

you don't require 10 gigabit lol

[midnight crypt]

The issue is ping

[pale quartz]

and yes it already does work well, current bandwidth requirements are around 100mbps, relatively meagre in all things

[lost cargo]

As long you have good internet download speed with atleast WiFi 6 or 6e you should be fine

[pale quartz]

of course if you care about that then native will always win, but someone considering a cost equation has no care for that to begin with

[cursive marten]

i wouldn't trust my wifi with that.

[pale quartz]

different audience, different target markets

(I need to spend 2k for this pc for low latency) is not (what's the cheapest option for a similar experience)

[midnight crypt]

Very true

[last saddle]

Might be the PSU , it was the least of my concern though it seems that BF5 is only crashing to desktop now instead of shutting down my hardware. Good news since its probably on EA's end

[pale quartz]

uhh.. thats not what that means...

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-launches-core-ultra-200v-lunar-lake-series-first-taste-of-next-gen-xe2-graphics

Xe2 seemingly better than RDNA3.5

[lost cargo]

Coming back with a comeback

[quick locust]

PS portal: I have been forgotten

Although that didnt have native games

[brave sundial]

But it was better than the 3DS in every perceivable way

Same with the psp vs the original ds

But yeah the DS had much better exclusives

Once again proving that exclusives are everything if you want to succeed in the console market

[quick locust]

Technically the PS portal has 0 exclusives

[quick locust]

Really liked my original PSP, still have mine working

[digital hill]

The best console that is just a way to play your ps5 anywhere with free WiFi that you cannot easily do with cheap laptop and controller

[brave sundial]

I threw my original one away because I didn't know you could replace the battery easily

[digital hill]

How much is the ps portal

[brave sundial]

kid me was stupid

but I found a 3000 on ebay that just needed a joystick replacement and now it works great, really good condition

[digital hill]

Yeah you could easily buy a cheap laptop from eBay or Amazon and controller and still get a better experience then the ps portal

[quick locust]

Just 200 usd msrp

[cursive marten]

I mean the Vita did have one problem, i think you had to use Sony Memcard Pro sticks to save games or download games to your system, like, SD cards wouldn't work

[brave sundial]

but now I just use my vita, adrenaline means I can play upscaled psp games with another stick

[digital hill]

Yeah your phone is also a good contender

Or save a bit extra for steam deck

[brave sundial]

But what about all the cool dualsense features

[digital hill]

It’s still cheaper to also buy a dual sense

[quick locust]

I Wonder if it has a browser now

It didnt at the start at least which meant a lot of public wifi didnt work for it

[brave sundial]

the vita and psp already could do what a ps portal can, back with the ps3

[digital hill]

Like a couple of dollar saved and you could also play games on it compared to the ps portal

[brave sundial]

In fact the psp was the original switch when you think about it

Nintendo just stuck the landing with theirs

[digital hill]

Yeah they should have allowed it to be like a console and not a full remote play thing

[quick locust]

Well Wii U..

[cursive marten]

you couldn't remove the controllers and use them independently of the screen on the PSP tbf

[quick locust]

Same ish concept to Switch but failed

[digital hill]

Eeh it wasn’t like it, the console had to be in the same room

[brave sundial]

Wii what?

[cursive marten]

there are good reasons why it failed.

[digital hill]

I think psp is the best contender since you could connect it to tv

[quick locust]

[brave sundial]

But I heard the wii U is an amazing console once you mod it, can play every other nintendo console released before it. Maybe I'll get one

[digital hill]

Also the psp came first

[brave sundial]

not just through regular wires, it had a fancy dock

[digital hill]

I already got one but waiting for a way to emulate gamepad on pc

[quick locust]

There are also PC handhelds going way back where you could do it

[digital hill]

Ah

[cursive marten]

I've modded my Wii U recently. Maybe that's true, but DS emulation seems a bit scuffed.

[brave sundial]

and some docks had speakers so they could turn it into a mini portable speaker

[brave sundial]

really? oh

[digital hill]

There was a lot of shit for it but damn one thing about it, is playing gta lcs compared to ds

Where gta Chinatown wars looked like shit

But looked better on the ds

Like the psp was a weaker ps2

[cursive marten]

yeah. I donno, maybe i'm not using a good emulator or i'm not doing something right, but in my experience it seems very scuffed.

[brave sundial]

there's already a original ds emulator project going on for the vita

Seems promising so far

[digital hill]

That what made it sell so many, because actual 3d games vs Nintendo ds “3d” games

[cursive marten]

I haven't tried emulating much else, purely because i'm lazy and also I don't have an external hard drive and I don't feel like filling up the SD card in the Wii U.

[brave sundial]

https://youtu.be/qIdUFbej4dc

[digital hill]

Ah emulation is still good

Though steam deck is still better than any of the consoles as you can emulate them easily

[brave sundial]

the vita has a camera and it's touchscreen so it's a perfect contender for a ds emulator

[cursive marten]

yeah but there's a problem

[digital hill]

What about the steam deck

[cursive marten]

it only has one screen.

[digital hill]

[cursive marten]

what's the point of emulating the DS if you're not gonna have two of 'em.

[brave sundial]

look at the emulator, it already solves that problem

[quick locust]

Steam deck the goat

[cursive marten]

i see that but i don't think that's good enough

[brave sundial]

much larger

[digital hill]

And touch screen

They barely utilize it

[cursive marten]

fucking love it

finally

[digital hill]

A dock is nice

[cursive marten]

the DS 2.

[digital hill]

True the ultimate gaming machine

[brave sundial]

If the gpd win 4 was actually not from a scummy and shady company then I would've bought that because the form factor is perfect

[quick locust]

Aya Neo also has an actual DS form factor handhelds

[cursive marten]

yeah but Ayaneo is sketchy

[digital hill]

The ogs

Literally the og of those pocket gaming machines

[brave sundial]

yeah

[digital hill]

The only competitor was some scam company

[brave sundial]

but I heard nothing but nightmare stories over getting your stuff repaired

[digital hill]

Ah

[brave sundial]

Atleast valve is a reputable large company that you know you can trust with that sort of stuff

[cursive marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2opqHtnn4Nk I am gonna link to this review of the Ayaneo 2S as my source for why i think they're sketchy

[brave sundial]

but yeah despite that their hardware is very impressive for what they pack into such small form factors

[cursive marten]

There's no way that's not the coolest shit.

[digital hill]

True and fun 3ds games

[brave sundial]

I've seen a switch attachment you can use to turn it into honestly the perfect ds emulator

it allows you to to slide in the joycons so you can use the thing vertically

so perfect split for the 2 ds screens without a flimsy hinge or attachment mechanism

I'm trying to find a video of it, I saw it months ago and it looked really cool

[quick locust]

Nintendo lawyers sweating

[digital hill]

Legally they cannot do anything

[cursive marten]

...Unrelated, but do like, external wireless trackpads exist

like a laptop trackpad, but not on a laptop.

[lofty light]

Yes, I use one

It’s an Apple one though

Use it for work as the gestures up my productivity a lot

[cursive marten]

Do apple ones work with PC's or nah

[lofty light]

They do with my boot camp setup, so I assume they should work fine yeah

[cursive marten]

hm. Would be interesting to look into at some point.

[lofty light]

Would work much better with the drivers, you can make it a Microsoft precision trackpad with all the windows gestures

[cursive marten]

but i need to look into a lot of other things about my PC setup before i can start worrying about stuff like that

[opaque saddle]

yeah the magic trackpad 2 is actually quite decent even with its price point. There is no other trackpad can provide any better experience than that

[quick locust]

1911 april fool about inventing a cellphone

Or as they call it wireless pocket phone device

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-battlemage-gpu-leak-shows-2-85-ghz-clock-20-xe2-cores-and-12gb-vram

Mid-range

slower than 4060 in OpenCL

[quick locust]

Lower end and early drivers I guess

Alchemist already beats 4060 in OpenCl

Well except INT64

Also beats in geekbench opencl

[molten flame]

New rumor that 9800X3D launches first before 2025 and doesn’t support overclocking (105-120W max.) 9900X3D and 9950X3D launch later in the first quarter and will support overclocking (170+W)

Not like overclocking or boosting matters a lot for 3D chips

[cursive marten]

https://fixupx.com/WorkaholicDavid/status/1838330072102768787

new irrational fear just dropped

wireless earbuds exploding in your ear, causing permanent hearing loss

[brave sundial]

https://fixupx.com/WorkaholicDavid/status/1838330072102768787

Another advantage of wired I guess

But this is the first case I've heard of, ever

Stuff with lithium batteries always has a chance of randomly deciding to die or a rare problem from the manufacturing process that wasn't identified with qa

[digital hill]

Gonna stick with wired now

or buy one of those cheap 3.5mm to bluetooth adapter

[pale quartz]

thats not going to save you lol

[digital hill]

I'll always blame apple for creating this problem

If you think about it, many companies copied removing the 3.5mm jack, to create a new problem

that is solved by creating e-waste

[digital hill]

but also he can sue the living shit outta samsung

[brave sundial]

I mean can he?

[digital hill]

Yes he can

or she

Actually he isn't from america, so he can

[pale quartz]

apple didnt create a problem

they created a consumer trend

that trend is that people prefer wireless

just how it goes

[digital hill]

The trend is what is causing more e-waste

[pale quartz]

its not causing anymore than having a 3.5mm jack, already did

[digital hill]

I know the cheap 3.5mm wires that usually break but buy a decent one like a shoe, it should last a lifetime

[pale quartz]

the 3.5mm connector is unstable as shit and prone to frying randomly when it wants within a year with minimal pressure

nevermind the sensitivity issues which causes degradation loss with enough torque