technology

[molten coral]

[coarse nimbus]

Being an audiophile is expensive

[brave sundial]

Look at audiophiles with all their fancy wired cans while I'm here enjoying a similar experience for half the cost and also wireless

[molten coral]

never liked wireless

[prime jasper]

Well that went slightly over the first budget

[molten coral]

a little bit

[brave sundial]

Well you never know until you try a really good pair

[prime jasper]

that wont be "half the cost"

likely be double the cost

good wired can be extremely cheap too

you dont actually need to spend over 200€ or not even over 150€ for great wired ones

but there is good ones below 50€

[brave sundial]

250 is double 430?

And I get what you mean, I have some good wired IEMs myself

I would agree for wireless earbuds though, pushing the 300 mark for those tiny things.

[prime jasper]

you don't actually need to spent like Nacho did for the same quality

430 is kinda insane

[brave sundial]

Idk I see audiophiles going around recommending $800 headsets

But then again, that's on reddit

[prime jasper]

well they are likely delusional and buy weird cables too for 10x the price of normal cables

[molten coral]

It isn't about the sound, it's just that you have to charge them.

[molten coral]

[brave sundial]

Yeah they connect them with some $1000 chunky amp/dac and call their setup "entry-level"

[brave sundial]

Oh fair, mine can go off a solid 30 hours with anc.

I guess that and the fact that you won't need to worry about a degrading battery makes wired a huge plus

[prime jasper]

Idk how far wireless headphones tech has come but before there seem to bit of delay on the audio that could be noticeable during gaming

[brave sundial]

It's pretty good these days. But kind of impossible to have no latency with BT I guess

Atleast you can plug them in if you need to use them for stuff like that

[prime jasper]

that is the reason my heaphones will be wired on pc, also have wireless that i use with my phone

[brave sundial]

Sort of why I bought IEMs for that, and they do a decent enough job at that.

[digital hill]

Look at all the people whose headphones will become e-waste

[brave sundial]

*people who are too lazy to replace the battery

I just replaced my earbuds' batteries and they work good as new

[digital hill]

Ah you got the sony wf1000xm3

also you know you'll never get good latency on them compared to wire, they'll always sound a bit delayed

[brave sundial]

Why would I use them to game?

[digital hill]

Are you admitting your not using wireless for gaming

[brave sundial]

Yeah, I just did above

[brave sundial]

^

[digital hill]

So your defending wireless but you know wired will always be better

[brave sundial]

Always be better is false, but both are good in their own ways

[digital hill]

True but mostly false, while wired might have issues if you buy dollar store headphones

since it's cheaply designed

if you buy onbrand wire headphones, you won't have much issues though a big problem with wireless is repairability

Companies don't want you to use them long term

[brave sundial]

Yeah, it's something I hope the EU pushes for too like increased repairability for phones

[pastel field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WjuTvVgwY

[molten flame]

I got Mackie CR8-XBT

8 inch is op

[pastel field]

damn

looks interesting

with bluetooth too

[lost cargo]

4.5 to 5 lacks buttons

Apple but for speakers

[pastel field]

I'm looking through edifier for gaming too

alongside listening to music and watching videos

[lost cargo]

I just use my headphones

[pastel field]

I don't anymore

:C

https://shenzhenaudio.com/products/moondrop-x-crinacle-dusk-2dd-2ba-2planar-in-ear-headphone

motherfucking

360 usd

[molten flame]

It seems that Intel's ring bus is the culprit, which connects to P-cores and E-cores. Buildzoid has a youtube video about it, Wendel also points to this.
The entire P-cores + E-cores design may be flawed.

[prime jasper]

got tax returns. need gpu for 1440p 165fps gaming, whats the best one for that?

i play lot of esport fps

[molten flame]

4070 Super, 4070Ti Super, 4080 Super

[prime jasper]

(valorant, ow, apex)

[lost cargo]

Valorant, apex. Ew

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-puke-puke-vomit-kitty-vomit-cat-vomit-gif-10902081098279086080

[prime jasper]

i know

but im good at them

[prime jasper]

i was looking at 4080 super, which manufacturer should i go with?

i know some of them make bad coolers sometimes

i dont want that

[molten flame]

all coolers on high-end GPUs are overbuilt

they weigh like 2 kilograms lol

[prime jasper]

no dumb designs on them?

like forgetting to cool vrm etc (asus style couple years ago)

[molten flame]

no problems like that recently

those issues only happen at launch

feedback usually resolves things

[prime jasper]

lol

msi SUPER SUPRIM X

these names

4080 super should be good paired with 7800x3d i think

[toxic wigeon]

Absolutely

[prime jasper]

splendid

this will cost a bit but sometimes its okay to eat ramen for month

[toxic wigeon]

LOL

"I might broke but at least I have a computer to my name"

[prime jasper]

yes but i was only kidding, tax man took way too much this year due to some dumb errors by me so now they returned plenty

[toxic wigeon]

I need to get my group certificate.

They're taking too long.

[coarse nimbus]

who are you and what did you do with the real owner of this account?

not a single amd gpu suggested??

[brave sundial]

My KZs are just fine which I got for on sale for $10

[coarse nimbus]

seeing this new jayz2cents video about the intel microcode patch from today... "my home cpu has been fine so far (i assume its 14900k) and im running at 320 watts"

jesus

[prime jasper]

HD 600

[storm osprey]

so for music media? what kind of sound profile? 6xx is a classic go to, 560s is the neutral go to

[prime jasper]

HD 600 is better than both

[storm osprey]

Can’t really claim a better for something so subjective.

[prime jasper]

Audio is objective

Especially when giving a general recommendation to someone

[storm osprey]

lol ok

The only objective aspect about audio is how neutral they are

[prime jasper]

Exactly

The sound quality is objective

[storm osprey]

Yea not everyone wants neutral sound.. kind of shouldn’t have to explain that

[prime jasper]

Well of course people want neutral

[storm osprey]

lol ok

[prime jasper]

What else would they want if not the highest quality sound?

[cold aurora]

yo is anyone on here on PC?

I need help with something very common, but I still need help

[molten flame]

Intel's ring bus is likely the reason for instability. Would explain why the CPUs fail cache tests or mem-tests running in cache, explains the inconsistent modes of failure between cores, explains the I/O errors and NVME (northbridge PCIE) errors, and it explains why lowing memory clocks would increase stability.

PCIE errors and memory errors until the cache frequency is lowered

I think workloads that rely on the P-cores are the ones causing issues since that is when the cpu can really boost high. I doubt degradation happens when all the cores are loaded since the frequency and voltages decrease to keep power/heat in check.

[faint umbra]

Glad I don’t have an intel cpu in my pc

Ryzen > intel respectfully

[tawny mauve]

https://support.google.com/photos/thread/289829291?hl=en

[lost cargo]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-remix-rest-api-app-connectors/?nvweb_e=QnIy4dD2anEvpJew9pYP4Y8JcgJYYUCUfBfA9JSYpQrcdjSpUoa2SRPCmN_TpPP4zZQP3JBFsPSxC3nDQ1iudQ&ncid=em-news-127207_en-us

[pastel field]

Might cop these next

[keen vector]

Good news, computer's normal again. just had to unplugged it

[lost cargo]

Just buy everything from that website

[coarse nimbus]

The next progress update is expected by Friday, August 09
so that was a fucking lie

now i now what observer was feeling like

[pastel field]

I'll buy you

And turn you into a digital device

[prime jasper]

Is amd anti lag+ safe now?

people were gettin banned for it when it launched

or did they remove the feature as it was not ideal

[toxic wigeon]

It should be fine?

That's weird.

[prime jasper]

yeah it was causing people getting banned in cs2 and some other games then it was removed

[pale quartz]

it was removed and reworked as it was effectively a injection tool, the new one is anti lag 2 which only works with certain games

[molten flame]

years behind competition as usual

[midnight crypt]

Trillion dollar company vs billion dollar company

[prime jasper]

what a bad idea to start with. that was gonna cause bans lol

injection = 99.9% chance anti cheat will ban you at some point

[pale quartz]

the Radeon division cannot make GPUs in a stable manner anymore or software, it's just the current reality nowadays

not much anyone can do

[prime jasper]

I think I found THE cpu cooler

[coarse nimbus]

bro did not just boost the server just to embed this cooler

[prime jasper]

nah

I boosted it last month

accidentally left

rejoined

but thanks for being a spaz. Bmac!

I sent the seller a message asking if it would cool my 14700K. I'm really excited for the fish design

[pale quartz]

that is fake lol

[prime jasper]

Gee, ya think?

Oh yeah i was also wondering what psu i should get for 7800x3d, 4080 super, 2x ram stick, 3x SSD and 6x fans

but I opened up a line of communication with the seller. Maybe there's something we don't know..

Sry mispelled

[pale quartz]

what do you mean, those are 2 graphics cards

[prime jasper]

I know i made mistake

[pale quartz]

for that combination atx 3 since it's a 4080s, wattage not particularly important

[midnight crypt]

300w

[pale quartz]

900/1kW will be fine

[prime jasper]

Alright that's around what i thought wanted to make sure im not tripping

[coarse nimbus]

who tf would even buy that

'normal bracket'

[pale quartz]

gives you headroom for future expansion if you need it nothing particularly exceptional is needed

[prime jasper]

There's only 20 left in stock. How the hell will I cool my PC without these great fish designs?

[midnight crypt]

You should buy it

It's even limited edition

[prime jasper]

If they respond that it will, that is casus belli for me to declare personal war on the nation of China

Seasonic 1000W FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 is on sale. if i remember seasonic is decent quality

[pale quartz]

nothing particularly wrong with them

[midnight crypt]

They have a good warranty

[prime jasper]

I'd recommend my PSU, but they're no longer allowed to sell in this fine country so pbbbffffft

i take the 10 year warranty and 50€ off as there is sale for this

[storm osprey]

seasonic is one of the few actual OEMs and are generally good. most brands like corsair just buy from other OEMs and have drastically varrying quality

[prime jasper]

yes i was looking into it

found a review too that gave it good score, they even took it apart and checked the insides

[gentle void]

So I just bought this game, and I'm getting a mouse lag issue, The game doesn't lag at all until I move my mouse. Been googling but nothing is working thus far. Is there a setting I need to change to reduce the mouse lag?

[willow schooner]

Need more context, your pc specs, os, etc

[gentle void]

Windows 11
RX 7800 XT 16GB
AMD 5800x3D
32 GB RAM

Operating System Version:
Windows 11 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0
Video Card:
Driver: AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT
DirectX Driver Name: atidx9loader32.dll
Driver Version: 32.0.11029.1008
DirectX Driver Version: 32.0.11029.1008
Driver Date: 7 15 2024
OpenGL Version: 4.6
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 144 Hz
DirectX Card: AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT
VendorID: 0x1002
DeviceID: 0x747e
Revision: 0xc8
Number of Monitors: 2
Number of Logical Video Cards: 2
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 3840 x 2160
Desktop Resolution: 7680 x 2160
Primary Display Size: 24.45" x 13.43" (27.87" diag), 62.1cm x 34.1cm (70.8cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM Not Detected
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x

CPU Vendor: AuthenticAMD
CPU Brand: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 8-Core Processor

I found that I'm at 100% CPU usage... but that's pretty rediculous for a 5800x3D CPU.

[pale quartz]

driver issue, you have the insider version, revert to a old stable version such as 23.5.1, the current ones are not stable

[gentle void]

CPU or GPU?

[willow schooner]

Gpu

[pale quartz]

GPU

[gentle void]

So, I wasn't able to find 23.5.1 on AMDs website for my driver, but I was able to roll it back to 23.10.1... but I'm having the exact same issue.

All inputs are stuttering because 100% CPU usage.

[gentle void]

Other steps I have tried:

Reduced resolution down to 1080p
Put game on lowest settings possible
Disabled HDR
Made a user.cfg file that limits processor utilization
removed electronic arts folder from Battlefield 2042 file

[willow schooner]

Odd issue, lots here have the same cpu and no such issues

[gentle void]

See... I'm trying to figure it out... because now that I got it in "Borderless" my CPU usage dropped drastically, but I'm still having the same input lag issues.

Yeah, now I'm using no more than 60% of my CPU

[gentle void]

Is it ok if I post a YouTube video in this channel to show you exactly what my game is doing?

[willow schooner]

As long as its not advertisement, I guess so. But im not a mod, so who know

[gentle void]

https://youtu.be/mCz3sYvGJcA?si=jFroR142QLssGv0V&t=48

It's not a normal stutter, it's so weird.

[willow schooner]

Looks like some weird controller issue

[gentle void]

Right because I can see everything perfectly, but it's only when I move and it chops ONLY when I move my mouse.

Just in case, I also disabled Steam and EA play overlay
Changed the performance hurts for my Naga mouse to 125
Uninstalled Radeon Adrenaline Software
Switched to Borderless
Switched to 1080p
Switch to 60 FPS

[willow schooner]

Do you have a controller connected, this video is also 4 months old

[gentle void]

No, but do you want me to try it?

[willow schooner]

No, but ive seen issue sliek this caused by having multiple input devices connected

[gentle void]

Well, to test it either way, it does the same thing with controller.

My inputs are laggy and I cannot figure out why.

[willow schooner]

If it happens even with lower CPU usage, its likely some oddity on your system. Live ive said, there are many others with the same CPU here, and no such issues

[prime jasper]

have you checked for malware?

as alluring as those browser addons are

[gentle void]

Haha, I rarely download anything.

All my other games work perfectly with no issues. It's just this game unfortunately.

CPU usage is currently only at 43% and it still does weird stuff.

[gentle void]

Yeah, if I can't figure this out I'm just going to refund the game. I put a post on the EA forums but from looking at them, no one has responded to them. Not even EA staff.

[prime jasper]

Have you tried reducing the resolutions of your displays

you're running 2 4k screens?

[mystic flax]

Been a couple weeks and can say that my new PC is still functional without issues

[digital hill]

Has anyone took a look here @prime jasper, 2 logical video cards

Is that the hdmi port or is there another gpu in it

[mystic flax]

I might want to move some cables to have better airflow tho

[prime jasper]

did you fix your fans or are you still running the Vornado?

[mystic flax]

I finally fixed it

Just needed a 4 cable splitter

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-gif-7212093

[mystic flax]

Yeah videos and the instructions led me to believe the damn power cables were just optional

[digital hill]

@gentle void did you install the smbus driver from your motherboard manufacturer?

[gentle void]

Yeah... I went big on screens.

[gentle void]

95% certain I did as I made sure my BIOS is always updated along with chipsets.

[digital hill]

So what software did you use to get system information

[gentle void]

Steam

[prime jasper]

Turn off one of the displays. Run the game. Humor me.

[digital hill]

True, humor him

thinking your pushing the gpu

[prime jasper]

I can game pretty easily on my computer when I'm outputting at 3440x1440 and 1920x1080 on my two "primary" displays, when I add the 4K TV in the living room via HDMI to stream stuff, no es bueno

And your*(holy fuck, I really spelled that wrong) card is heftier than mine, a 4070TI OC, but you're asking a lot of it

[gentle void]

I paid $800 for a gaming toaster card and I wanna cook it 😛 (jk)

So... I might have borked something...

Give me a sec

I got an Unhandled Exception error...

Let me restart

This game didn't like it when I tried to force it to run on DX12

[willow schooner]

There is no other renderer

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gentle void]

Really? Cause I saw in the files it was set to "0"

[willow schooner]

Does literally nothing, there is only a DX12 renderer in this game

[pale quartz]

that file is just leftover from battlefield 5, it doesnt impact the game

[gentle void]

Gotcha... well I broke the crud out of something so I got to reinstall.

[prime jasper]

Right click on game in library -> properties -> installed files -> verify integrity of game files

it may take less time

[gentle void]

I tried that but it didn't work unfortunately 😦

[prime jasper]

You're either cursed or from another dimension then

[gentle void]

At this point I feel like both. Been troubleshooting this for around 6 hours now.

And that didn't seem to fix it either

But... it's apparently eating up my GPU

The 3D Rendering on my GPU is maxed out, with Battlefield on the lowest setting.

Meanwhile CPU is now at 60%

16.7GB of 32GB of RAM in use.

[prime jasper]

let me try this in another way

[gentle void]

Ok, I'm setting my native down to 1440 to see if that does anything.

[prime jasper]

sell the second 4k display. get a 1920x1080 27 inch monitor to watch pr0n on. use the extra money for good pizza

[gentle void]

Even at 1080p I'm getting the same thing.

There's something that's making that input lag because now my CPU is at 59% while my GPU is at 51%

So, I'm not bottlenecking as far as I can tell.

[gentle void]

NVM, at 720p my CPU maxed out again.

However, my SIM is showing 20/6.1 - 8.0

[gentle void]

Yeah all my other FPS is showing great...

330 for CPU and GPU

[rich drift]

Is anyone else having issues with their game stuttering or screen freezing for a few seconds often?

[gentle void]

Close... I'm trying to figure it out myself.

Apparently my CPU, which is top of the line for AM4, just maxes out. No matter how low I set my resolution and settings.

I also run a RX 7800 XT. That is also upper Midrange for a GPU.

A lot of people have had a lot of issues with this since season 3 and it's popping up more regularly since season 6 from what I've read.

[rich drift]

Yeah that’s weird

I just got the game but my first few days playing it was running fine but today it was just a mess

[midnight crypt]

It's very obvious why it maxes out if you're lowering the resolution that much

[pastel field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmWmhg9gtE8

Might cop an Edifier product next

[pastel field]

@mild aspen

Gaming speaker or studio monitor?

[lost cargo]

Both

DOk your rich 🤑

Don’t lie

[pastel field]

d0k is not rich

[lost cargo]

Cap

Show me your bank

[pastel field]

[lost cargo]

[mild aspen]

If you don’t live alone, then get headphones.

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-gif-9581117406674041116

[lost cargo]

Get headphones anyways for the best experience

[prime jasper]

I wish I could tune out reality and use my headphones. One day.

[pastel field]

you're my headphone

[gentle void]

Yeah but it maxes out no matter what.

Look up above and see all the troubleshooting done.

[willow schooner]

Have you tried refresh it reset your OS?

[toxic wigeon]

That's a bloody insult. The 9700x costs as much as the 7800x3d.

Here.

[terse glade]

50€ cheaper here which is still an insult tbh

[dry pike]

Inflated launch prices are inflated.

[wide fractal]

Aside from using a user.cfg file any way to further optimize this game? I run in ~200 fps at 1440p i get flawless performance but on my 7800X3D while streaming i noticed CPU usage is quite high. Even with the Custom CFG that helped massively i'd like to lower it further.

[light wave]

And the 7800x3d does better out of the box

Kinda funny

But I guess gen 9000 is focused on efficiency

[coarse nimbus]

seems like the tech review people are all angry with these new cpus?

[light wave]

Yeah because they expected way better performance outta those

Most likely

[coarse nimbus]

its not "bad" performance increases but its just nothing to write home about? thought someone said that in here the other day

[light wave]

Yeah, I’m glad I ain’t losing much yet

Although gotta wait for x3d ones before I’m sure there’s nothing worth getting

[coarse nimbus]

they created a monster

[light wave]

Wdym

[coarse nimbus]

x3d being so stronk

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah no if the r9's are no more powerful I'll just get a 7800x3d.

I know what I've been told

But I'm waiting until the numbers are proven

[willow schooner]

Buy a CPU with more cores, or a better GPU for streaming specifically. Not really much you can do for CPU usage when the game is demanding and you are trying to stream it

[wide fractal]

I agree

Just wanted to see the input here, Nvenc encoder or a 7950X3D is the only thing that can increase performance

[willow schooner]

Aside form using AV1 stream from your GPU or something (If you have 40 series)

[wide fractal]

could stream on a seperate pc too, but that's rediculous

[willow schooner]

7950X might be better for streaming and playing TBH. As the 7950X3D needs to park the CCD1 cores in order to use its 3D cache on CCD0

[wide fractal]

i think they fixed alot of that in firmware updates with the core scheduler. I'd still use lasso and run preferred cores for cache tho

[light wave]

Gaming wise the 7950x3d can now actually do better in gaming than the other x3d chips

Personally, all the issues with it feel fixed, and it’s great, except when I mess around with oc-ing it

[modern gull]

What about 7800x3d? 🤷

It is good chip, i like 7800

[light wave]

Great chip, best value rn I’d say

[willow schooner]

7950X3D is a 7800X3D, with an extra 8 cores lol

[light wave]

Just saying that the 7950x3d is no longer a mess in gaming

[willow schooner]

Youre basically getting a 7800X3D and a 7800X in one CPU haha

[modern gull]

But without needing xbox gamebar for games

[light wave]

Yeah that’s one of the caveats

[modern gull]

Was actually the first cpu i considered, but 7800x3d turned out to be fine for both gaming and workstation workload in my situation at least

[light wave]

Yeah the only game I’ve seen blast most cores was Cyberpunk

Productivity is rather nice with it, as Revit is kinda dogshit and eats up what it can get

[willow schooner]

I would have stayed with my older 7900X, but I bought my 9750X3D from a friend for 400 EUR

[modern gull]

In reality though, dont matter how many cores your cpu uses. Specially when most important ting is getting gpu to 100% 🤷

Basically your system max capability

[light wave]

Which reminds me that I need new thermal pads

Problem is

Asus uses fkin 1.25mm and 1.75

And there’s pretty much nobody that sells those thicknesses

[willow schooner]

Can you just buy 2 pad sheets of those widths?

[light wave]

Just some weird no name ones from amazon

At least here in Amsterdam

[willow schooner]

1.5 and 2mm sheets would probably work fine, no?

[light wave]

I heard it’s not great as you lose some thermal conductivity

But most likely better than a 106C hotspot

[willow schooner]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/XPC-Performance-T20-Non-Conductive-Electronics/dp/B0B2R568DT

1.75 does seem un-common tho. Its true

[toxic wigeon]

I'm too impatient

I want to abuse ddr5 and x670

[gentle void]

I could reset the OS but... that's pretty extensive considering that all my other games work perfectly that have more of a demand that This game does.

Worst part is, I sent everything I did to the EA technical support forums, and nobody can answer me there either. I'm just saying, I'm pretty sure it's just this game being poorly optimized.

I can pretty much play any other game at the highest setting with 144 frames no problem, except for maybe Cyberpunk 2077 but that's a special case.

[gentle void]

when I do a perfoverlay.fpscount 1, everything is green except for the "sim" which shows yellow.

When in the lobby, the sim is green and shows "45/1", but when I get into an actual game, is then becomes "20/6.1" and yellow. I don't know what this means or if this can help narrow down the problem but it's there.

SIM (simulation) is the CPU calculation of world/object physics/game logic/etc (where everything is located and what it's doing based on update packets from the server, with interpolation/extrapolation)

[prime jasper]

So you think it's the game not being correctly optimized, not you. When literally everyone on here and the EA forums is saying "it's you"

[willow schooner]

As lots have said here, they also have this same CPU...and no such issues.

[light wave]

Weird frostbite shit

Ain’t that deep, don’t read too much into it

Also look out for potential problems with your rig, and don’t obsess over 2042’s perf overlay

[gentle void]

There are also a lot of people with the same setup who have the same problem on the forums.

Also, if someone knows the problem, they should tell me the answer. If some people with the same setup as I got can play it, then I should be able to play it no problem.

Other people with my same setup also have the same problem I'm having.

So if you have answers I haven't tried yet, keep them coming.

In fact, I just provided more data.

[candid flame]

do you perhaps use wireless mouse?

or anything wireless

[gentle void]

No. Nor wireless keyboard.

[candid flame]

headset?

[gentle void]

Nothing wireless.

[candid flame]

you have great fps, so it's weird that you are having input lag

[gentle void]

Headset yes. But I sometimes keep that plugged in anyways.

[candid flame]

freesync on?

[gentle void]

And that's what people aren't understanding.

[candid flame]

try plugging the headset in and try the game again. When I used a wireless headset the sound is delayed so it felt like there was an input lag

2042 just ate the whole cpu so there was no space left for the wireless driver

[gentle void]

Well the sound isn't delayed.

It's mouse and keyboard inputs. In fact, I have now made it to where the CPU isn't being completely ate up while playing, and it's still having input delay.

[candid flame]

check in Adrenalin and reset 2042's profile back to default?
does it happen with other games?

[light wave]

Make sure your mouse polling rate isn’t above 1000Hz

That will make your inputs absolute dogshit

[gentle void]

I completely ripped out adrenaline as a troubleshooting step for the same reason, and issue still persists .

In fact, I even ripped out the old driver with DDU and placed an older driver in case it was the new driver and it still persists.

[light wave]

I’m not even sure why that’s a thing

[candid flame]

yeah polling rate matters too

[gentle void]

I have it set to 125 hertz.

Still same issue.

[light wave]

125 is very low

1000 should be golden

[gentle void]

I have also set it to 500.

And 1000

[light wave]

Also make sure you’re using raw input

So disable “enhance pointer precision”

[gentle void]

I have used raw and turned it off.

But also keep in mind it's not just mouse but keyboard too

[light wave]

Also run “LatencyMon”

Look it up, download and run it

Come back with a screenshot after you’ve ran it

[gentle void]

I can't post screenshots in here, but I'll try enhanced pointer precision and latency Mon.

[light wave]

Just let me know what the highest latency is, and what its caused by, once you’ve ran that

[gentle void]

Is latency Mon a program?

[light wave]

It is

[gentle void]

Where's the official site to download it?

[gentle void]

Awesome! Thanks!

[lofty light]

I found out why my mini vr pc has been crashing when it is running a heavy game. It’s got a 3070 and an i7-8700 and I just checked the psu today; 450W

[toxic wigeon]

LMAO

[gentle void]

That might have something to do with it XD

[terse glade]

I would be curious if you could rock that psu if you would undervolt the 3070 a bit

[lofty light]

Might get away with it too as it’s running on 8 pcie lanes

[pale quartz]

nah 8 pcie lanes won't make a difference

soon as you enter ocp territory that power supply will fry eventually under a load like that

[midnight crypt]

Just risk frying all the hardware

Totally worth it

[pastel field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LNwECZXEdg

[lofty light]

Time to definitely buy a new psu then

I must’ve bought it waaaaaay back when I had an undervolted 1060 in it

[faint umbra]

I undervolted my cpu but im too scared to undervolt my gpu

[lost cargo]

I undervolt my 3080. A lot cooler ngl

Same performance

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H4-12ON40Q

Stick drift is intentional on PS5 controller

[visual quail]

going pc shopping (prebuilt cause i dont have the time to research components) i found one from ibuypower with these specs:
Intel® Core™ i9-14900KF CPU
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - 16GB
Memory
32GB DDR5-6000MHz RGB RAM
Motherboard
MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI
Storage
2TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 SSD
The price is $2049. with a discount code is is $1949.
Too good to be true?? and yes i have heard about intel cpus going haywire

[molten flame]

All 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs with a "K" in the name are gonna fail eventually

[visual quail]

what about this one for $1449
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X CPU
Video Card
GeForce RTX 4070 - 12GB
Memory
32GB DDR5-5600MHz RGB RAM
Motherboard
MSI PRO B650-VC WiFi
Storage
1TB M.2 NVMe SSD

[molten flame]

not terrible but motherboard is kinda iffy, no VRM cooling

Walmart I work at has a R5 7600 + B650E + RX 7600 XT + 16GB DDR5 + 1TB NVMe prebuilt discounted for only $700

been there for 2 months now

[visual quail]

is it from skytech

i found one on the website with similar specs but its intel and nvidia

[terse glade]

Why not just configure your pc as you wish and let it built up for you

I always would go for a samsung ssd m2 for ur main drive btw

Yea they're a bit more expensive but longevity is given

[visual quail]

cause my current computer is going to my sister when i can find a new one

[prime jasper]

i got a lenovo prebuilt and its pretty solid, they go on sale often too

cheaper than i could've built it for as well (but Im in Canada)
4070, 16gb ram, 1 tb ssd, 13700F for about $1990 CAD tax included

[vernal pendant]

thinking about this conversation again now that we have intel's power spec sheet for the oxidizing cpus and they explicitly discourage using the safe baseline power profile

https://youtu.be/b6vQlvefGxk?t=1427

this could not possibly indicate a pattern of behavior

[midnight crypt]

it is what it is

[terse glade]

I most likely get 9000 series 3d cpu with 50series rtx and rock that until 2030 but at the same time my pre built from 2020 still going strong lol

Huge urge to upgrade but yea no

[toxic wigeon]

2030 I can see working on 1440p.

[lost cargo]

Ez money farm from scamming

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-batch-star-wars-tech-well-i-thought-it-was-obvious-gif-22203020

We went from the PS2 and 3's hall effect joysticks to this.

You can treat them like absolute garbage and they work good as new. Meanwhile dualsense 5 will drift if you look at it the wrong way.

[lost cargo]

Barely touch it and it starts drifting away

[alpine nexus]

I got the 3D CPU and its amazing

[lost cargo]

Best combo is AMD CPU with a Nvidia GPU

Especially for pure raw performance

[alpine nexus]

I just recently built my PC
AMD 7800X3D
GPU 4090
64GB RAM
x2 2TB SSD
x1 4TB SSD
x1 12TB HDD NAS
Connected to 3 monitors
x2 1440p 144hz LG
x1 1080p 165hz LG

[brave sundial]

sounds like a great setup mate

[alpine nexus]

When Im playing 2042 GPU is sitting at 30-40C and CPU a lil bit more hot at 50-60C

[alpine nexus]

I think so idk

[brave sundial]

I would've gone with a 7800X3D instead of a 5800, but I'm guessing that was much more out of your budget?

[alpine nexus]

I might be wrong with the cpu I need to check

My bad you are right its the 7800X3D

[alpine nexus]

My budget was like $3K I went probably a lil bit over to 3.5K or something

[lost cargo]

Sheesh

[lost cargo]

Also this

[lost cargo]

It will last you for years

[alpine nexus]

Will it ?

[lost cargo]

For sure

[terse glade]

It will

[prime jasper]

It'll be mid-range in 2 years. You'll be eyeing up something juicier with your archaic rig. Get ready.

[lost cargo]

You prob don’t need a upgrade for 5+ years if that

[alpine nexus]

The CPU wasn’t expensive I only paid like $200

[prime jasper]

damn it I cannot use the reply accurately

[alpine nexus]

GPU like 1.7 1.8K

[lost cargo]

A 2080 is still keeping up with new games today

[prime jasper]

pbbbft. my son's 1660 is still a-ok for 1080

[lost cargo]

1060 that shit is still going ngl

[alpine nexus]

Your what

[terse glade]

My gpu

Actually it's a 2080 super

[lost cargo]

I have a 3080 rn but I had a 2080 laptop. Still pushing current games

[alpine nexus]

For me this is my first desktop , I still have my gaming laptop with 2060

[lost cargo]

2060

You playing on 720p?

[alpine nexus]

1440p

[lost cargo]

[alpine nexus]

But I dont play 2042 from my laptop

[lost cargo]

60fps? Or 30?

[alpine nexus]

I play from my desktop I don’t even know how many fps I have

[lost cargo]

Bruh

FPS counter dawg

[alpine nexus]

Where

[lost cargo]

Launchers and Nvidia have one

[alpine nexus]

Ohh, I will see once home , I didn’t bother

For my desktop I use everything on ultra with RTSS Quality and runs smooth

[terse glade]

If all works good why bother then

Too many got obsessed with fps and completely forget about the game itself

[lost cargo]

If you download Nvidia drivers. And have the Nvidia app. Alt+Z. You can see the performance overlay

I still care about the game. Just wonder for the fps on 2060

[alpine nexus]

Oh alr, i gotta check

[alpine nexus]

For that I would need to install the game on my laptop

[lost cargo]

Don’t have to if you don’t want to. Just curious lol

[alpine nexus]

I mean its nice to play while u gone

[lost cargo]

True true

[alpine nexus]

I need to clean it up and reinstall windows once that I will install few softwares and BF

It should run probably 60fps with medium graphics? Not sure

[lost cargo]

On a 3080 at 1440p. I’m pushing 100+ frames on 2042. Forgot my exact numbers. On DF I push over 170+ to around 200 ish.

[alpine nexus]

Laptop Spec
Ryzen 4800H
2060 6GB VRAM
1080p 144hz display
32GB RAM
512GB SSD

[lost cargo]

Awe 1080p. That explains a lot. Not 1440p

Unless your desktop is 1440p then, my bad

[alpine nexus]

Well I play from external monitor I never played from display

[lost cargo]

Mmm 🤔

[alpine nexus]

My desktop spec

[lost cargo]

Is your laptop displaying 1080p on monitor or native 1440p via monitor

[alpine nexus]

Native 1440 via monitor

[lost cargo]

Noice

[alpine nexus]

Its a Lenovo Legion 5

[lost cargo]

Never had legion

[alpine nexus]

Top G

Best you can buy honestly

[lost cargo]

Heard they are good. My 2080 laptop is a razer 17inch

[alpine nexus]

I think they are my fav laptops

Their temps are great and Legion didn’t had problems with the intel 14 gen

[lost cargo]

Ngl. I wished I saved my money from the 2080 razer laptop Z I could’ve have a future proof 4090 desktop rn

[alpine nexus]

Get a job

[lost cargo]

I have a job

[alpine nexus]

Save money

[lost cargo]

Work 40+ per week

Money is meh rn.

Plus my debt is more viable compared to pc upgrade atm

[alpine nexus]

Ahh

[lost cargo]

I also have a while before I need to upgrade tbh

[alpine nexus]

The way I do it its like this ,
Do I want it ? OR Do I need it ? Which one is it

[lost cargo]

Want

[alpine nexus]

Then you don’t buy

You keep those money until you get to the point where you really need it

[lost cargo]

Yea. I thought of that. My 3080 desktop got a hot min left before I need to upgrade it

[pale quartz]

sorta, it cant maintain 60 frames in global RT associated games without dlss, generally turing wont age well relative to ampere

[lost cargo]

[pale quartz]

8gb of vram is also a dying trend

[lost cargo]

Seems about right

16GB VRAM meta

If not more

[storm osprey]

iirc hardware unboxed has 16gb of vram for 1440p as standard

for 1080p 10-12gb is good, and this is assuming high settings as well

[modern gull]

For now

[lost cargo]

Currently updating my graphics. Don’t hate on my current gpu driver

[storm osprey]

well yea, things will always change, i think people get a bit gung ho about future proofing as well, so many people have been claiming 16gb ram of as not enough for a long time, even though its not till recently that its SOMETIMES a problem

and if they suggested people to buy more than 16gb then, they didnt need it and could have waited to buy more now and it being much cheaper

[pale quartz]

16 will last a while unless youre at 4k or something

[modern gull]

16gb should be good for a good while more tbh

[pale quartz]

4k maybe not, otherwise meh

[lost cargo]

16GB VRAM is good for 1440p gaming

Ram. Mmm 🤔 maybe 24+

[pale quartz]

first descendant chews through like 7gb just on the lowest preset

the rise of ue5 means low vram cards are having a early retirement

[lost cargo]

UE5 kills old gens

[modern gull]

Same with next gen consoles around the corner aswell i'd say

[pale quartz]

next gen isnt till 2028

[lost cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-red-ball-soon-gif-13188418

[pale quartz]

theres a refresh coming though

[modern gull]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-fire-gif-18709628

[lost cargo]

[modern gull]

Who knows, i was thinking a bit earlier though. But all my thoughts 😛

[modern gull]

Would expect ps5 pro at least

Who knows 🤷

[lost cargo]

Looks like they try running crysis at maxed settings on a 2020 mid range build at 4k

[pale quartz]

was leaked by microsoft and sony accidentally during the ftc court case, isnt speculation, its direct from them, well on accident

[lost cargo]

Awe the refresh.

[modern gull]

I see, i see 🤔

[lost cargo]

That’s true indeed

[storm osprey]

thats kind of crazy, we are moving further and further from the 5 year console cycle

[modern gull]

[pale quartz]

https://www.kitguru.net/tech-news/mustafa-mahmoud/next-gen-xbox-to-launch-in-2028-according-to-court-documents/

[lost cargo]

It was during the whole Xbox getting Activision thingy

[modern gull]

Ahhhhhhhh i remember that

[alpine nexus]

24 VRAM

[lost cargo]

4k gamer

[modern gull]

But i am also thinking, plans might change. So in the end we always have to wait and see i am thinking

[alpine nexus]

You gotta feel those gun shots

[modern gull]

8k*

[terse glade]

Yea then gta6 can sell twice like they did before I knew it

[alpine nexus]

Real life when

[lost cargo]

what about 16k. 32… no maybe 48gb

[pale quartz]

A 2028 release tallies with a previous document in which Sony said it does not expect its next-generation PlayStation to come out until at least 2027. In that document, released in November last year, Sony claimed it expected to lose access to the Call of Duty franchise in 2027. Sony then went on to state by the time it "launched the next generation of its PlayStation console... it would have lost access to Call of Duty and other Activision titles". Microsoft’s filing today counters this suggestion.
part 2

[modern gull]

[prime jasper]

i upgraded to a 4070 and still run Infinite at low, only difference is its 120fps instead of 60

battlefield too

[alpine nexus]

I wanna see u guys running with that bazooka like in 2042

[lost cargo]

You have a high refresh rate monitor

That does help a lot at higher fps

[prime jasper]

nah 60 hz LOL

it does its job

[lost cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-gif-21998253

[modern gull]

I have 60hz 1080p

[lost cargo]

120hz is standard

[storm osprey]

what is this.. 2010...

144hz*

[modern gull]

It's actually 75 but i matched it with my tv so less problems

[modern gull]

I would asume soo

[alpine nexus]

360hz or nothing

[storm osprey]

last i checked its rare to find 120hz monitors

[modern gull]

But what if you get used to 120hz and need to lower graphics that is no good

[lost cargo]

Think about it. New gen consoles only reach 120hz

[alpine nexus]

You get 144hz then

[prime jasper]

I just dont wanna buy a new monitor

[lost cargo]

I run every game at its lowest settings. Set for picture, DLSS quality, and textures, AA

Everything else is at its lowest

[alpine nexus]

Why lowest settings

[lost cargo]

I don’t like lights, reflections, shadows. Performance hogs

[storm osprey]

well depending on the games lowest settings are beneficial or you can go medium for certain settings and hardly notice a difference

[lost cargo]

Me like high fps with a good picture quality

Me like pixels but no extra bs

[storm osprey]

i mostly play comp games, so low settings for high fps and best visibility

[lost cargo]

I mainly play shooters

[alpine nexus]

No grass = see the enemy better

[storm osprey]

shooters fall under comp

[lost cargo]

Playing low settings is like second nature to me for anything tbh

[storm osprey]

even a casual shooter like bf

[lost cargo]

[storm osprey]

the ONLY setting i dont put on low/off is textures

[alpine nexus]

Increase distance tho

[storm osprey]

i hate low res textures

[lost cargo]

That’s all I run for any game. No other fancy extra bs

[modern gull]

Yeah sometimes you don't notice much difference. But i'd still target 60 fps/1080p, probably 1440p at some point though if i upgrade main monitor

[lost cargo]

Picture aka resolution

[lost cargo]

60fps feels absolutely awful

[modern gull]

Of course, specially if you are used to anything above that

[lost cargo]

60hz makes me throw up as well

[alpine nexus]

Now im curious how many fps i have with 4090

[lost cargo]

A shit ton

You can run any game at maxed settings and get 120fps across the board. Prob at 4k as well. Maybe 🤔 if not 2k

[alpine nexus]

Oh 120fps

[modern gull]

4070ti super @ 1080p is like 100-120 fps with dlss and full path tracing in cyberpunk

[alpine nexus]

I only have 1440p

[modern gull]

Max settings

[pale quartz]

4090 cant do 120 universally at 4k

games can and will crush it

[alpine nexus]

Can’t do 4K cuz I don’t have 4K

[lost cargo]

2k is fine but it’s a 4k res focused card

[alpine nexus]

What ? Second GPU ? 5090 ? Okk

[lost cargo]

[alpine nexus]

[alpine nexus]

Decent

[lost cargo]

4090 op till 5090 drops

8k gaming inbound

[modern gull]

4k pretty op/overated though

[lost cargo]

I won’t be surprised if 5090 does 6k 120 fps smoothly. I will be more surprised if it does 8k smoothly

[alpine nexus]

I will take 1440p over 4K in FPS

[modern gull]

1440p is all you would need in most scenarios tbh

[alpine nexus]

4K games are nice if you play something casual like building or idk where you can actually enjoy the graphics

[alpine nexus]

Very very true

[lost cargo]

Graphics is meant for PC

FPS and all. The whole 9 yards

[modern gull]

Unless you like to sit only few millimeter from your 50 inch tv then 4k would be needed

https://tenor.com/view/up-is-not-jump-screen-looking-closer-pixels-monitor-gif-15458707

[alpine nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-tv-dee-dee-kat-cressida-dexters-laboratory-watching-too-close-gif-2125462484156536839

[lost cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[alpine nexus]

When you take off your glasses/contacts and you gotta read that discord message

[modern gull]

[lost cargo]

What gpu is the new gen console on par with?

[alpine nexus]

Steam Deck or Legion Go sounds so tempting , but we saving money right @lost cargo

[lost cargo]

Cuz I doubt they will be on par with the Rtx 6090 for the next gen of consoles

[lost cargo]

I have a LCD steam deck

[alpine nexus]

I feel like I want Regular role just to be able to send GIFs

[alpine nexus]

No no

[modern gull]

ps5 was about rtx 2080. Maybe 4080 or 5080 performance next time 🤷 Excluding rey tracing

[alpine nexus]

We have a LCD Steam Deck**

[lost cargo]

OLED better

[alpine nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-21036569

[lost cargo]

You have one to

[alpine nexus]

Its our* Steam Deck yes

[lost cargo]

[alpine nexus]

[lost cargo]

Man wants my steam deck

[alpine nexus]

I can’t want something when I already own it

Sorry I meant we own it*

[lost cargo]

I’m still waiting for the steam deck 2

Patient is key

[alpine nexus]

Nintendo Switch 2.0 ?

[lost cargo]

Switch 2 is early next year

March or may I think 🤔

[alpine nexus]

Idk what to do with the switch I have right now

[lost cargo]

Sell it

I have a OLED Switch atm

[brave sundial]

If its a launch switch then you can easily jailbreak it as long as you don't care about going online again

[pale quartz]

rx 6700 give or take

[lost cargo]

Mmm 🤔

[alpine nexus]

Naw aint its the OLED switch

[brave sundial]

well you can still modchip it, but much more cumbersome. I'd sell it then

[pale quartz]

next gen consoles matching the 4080 are more or less a fantasy a 4070 is more on point

[alpine nexus]

Mhm mhm $250 for used one

I forgot how much I paid for it $300 something not bad

Not a huge loss

[lost cargo]

A single generation Rtx card upgrade

[pale quartz]

2

RDNA2 is equivalent to turing

[lost cargo]

Mmm 🤔 I see

By the time it comes out the 6090 or 7090 is out

[pale quartz]

it will be one generation from Blackwell not 2

5090/6090 nothing further

[lost cargo]

Pc is always head of the game either way

Console be trying to run games in 8k but see a pc future proof set up and run it very well

[brave sundial]

PS5 Pro will run GTA 6 at 60fps, just you watch

[lost cargo]

Not 120 fps

[brave sundial]

150fps at 4K, no upscaling or frame-gen

[lost cargo]

PS6. Naw

PS5 pro. Not even close

[tawny mauve]

https://youtu.be/kg2NwRgBqFo?si=0rE6jTW_VXX5SOPj

https://youtu.be/xlswicxMCkA?si=N4Qu1lPFE7CQwXrK

[lost cargo]

He have DLSS

[tawny mauve]

he tests without it too

see the video chapters

[lost cargo]

I seen. It don’t reach 150fps without DLSS or any tech

So the PS can’t even reach it as well

GTAV definitely but that’s an old game

[alpine nexus]

Hi techno people

What techno music are we listening today

[coarse nimbus]

Windows is updating...new PC apparently working

[tawny mauve]

gaming

[gentle void]

Technically not techno but electronic music.

[timber hearth]

heya guys wat do yall think of the new intel hx cpus acording to the new core ultra cpus wats a better choice to have on a laptop if u want to extend more battery life

and wat laptop brand is good to go like hp or msi

[lost cargo]

Real gaming is the N64

Also, get a PS5

PS4 is ass

If that’s a ps3. Can’t tell the difference anymore. Sony isn’t creative

Maybe a PS1/2 idk anymore

[tawny mauve]

ps4 and slim

[lost cargo]

that shit don’t look like a slim

That shit looks like your average PS2

[tawny mauve]

and the controller has 2 backbuttons I bought

[lost cargo]

Can’t tell. Only thing I can tell is the nonsense round piece at the bottom middle of the controller

[tawny mauve]

it's the backbutton grip yes

[lost cargo]

Wadu Hek

[lost cargo]

Naw that’s some Bluetooth speakers or sum

That ain’t no button

Is that the Samsung watch

The back with side buttons in the corner looks nice ngl. Better than your average PS controller

[tawny mauve]

back with side?

[lost cargo]

The inner corners. Middle of the controller outside of the Samsung watch lookin thingy

[tawny mauve]

for sure

[lost cargo]

I’m sorry. I diss Sony so much. Ok ish exclusives, best portable console aka psp. Other than that 🚮

I enjoy playing PS. In general. It’s meh 😒

[pastel field]

ZozoStation

[lost cargo]

[lost cargo]

DOkStation

[pastel field]

DX

[alpine nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/mood-dance-russiankiddance-club-dancevibe-gif-21421102

Im kindly asking for Regular role to gain access to send properly GIFs

[lost cargo]

Buy nitro

And boost the server

[alpine nexus]

[alpine nexus]

Got money ?

[lost cargo]

I can get you a month one time. After that is on you. Tmw midnight est, I got chu @alpine nexus

[prime jasper]

you can drop $3k on a computer but $5 is out of your budget.

right

[lost cargo]

1.5k on this PC

[prime jasper]

Not you, Sam

He was talking about his top of the line God-slaying PC

[lost cargo]

O. My b

[prime jasper]

nah, my B bro

[lost cargo]

True true

[lost cargo]

[lost cargo]

He prob spent his life savings on it

[prime jasper]

I've got a pretty stupid memory. Isn't he the person who said he had a budget of $3000 but spent $3500? So going $500 over budget is fine, but he has to beg for the ability to post gifs on Discord

Hello NEET

Guy is using his dad's work laptop until his mom picks him up.

[lost cargo]

Dw bro, he pulled out a loan for it in his dad’s name

[prime jasper]

He should have gotten a $3505 loan

[lost cargo]

5 dollar can make ya holler

[brave sundial]

You need to have no life unfortunately to get it

[alpine nexus]

Bro , the fact that you actually wanted to spend $5 $10 on a stranger

[alpine nexus]

I have job lol

Paying 3.5k for a computer is not that much in my opinion idk

[alpine nexus]

With the job I have I alr get none

Also I alr have Nitro for a year

[lost cargo]

Bruh what? Buy me a 4090 future proof then

It’s it ain’t much, you will buy me a full desktop

[alpine nexus]

You ain’t family so why , get a job , go work and buy a desktop

While I built my PC I bought 2 4090 I just returned the one I didn’t need, if you think spending 3-4K on a computer its a lot then hbu a house or car ?

[lost cargo]

I have a car and I live with 3 friends. All 3 of us have gfs. I have a full time job @alpine nexus

Want more info?

[alpine nexus]

Then how is it so expensive?

[lost cargo]

I live paycheck to paycheck. I bought my PC with tax returns as a personal gift

[coarse nimbus]

shoe size?

[alpine nexus]

Well that rough

[lost cargo]

Tell me about it

[alpine nexus]

Gonna steal his shoes now ?

[lost cargo]

I don’t have Js

Js is meh

[alpine nexus]

Never got into “fancy” shoes

I feel like its a waste of money

[lost cargo]

Vanz and Adidas ftw

[lost cargo]

You wanna know?

[alpine nexus]

I do got 2 pairs of vans pretty ok ish

[alpine nexus]

If Amurican prob 13 14

[coarse nimbus]

oh im sorry was this rhetorical?

[lost cargo]

Negative

7.5W

[alpine nexus]

size him

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-preparing-more-ryzen-ai-300-skus-bigger-numbers-to-be-expected

HX 385

[gentle void]

I finished but everything looks green to LatencyMon

I also cannot post screenshots in this chat.

[terse glade]

I really think I don't need more performance than what these new APU will can offer

Well let's see but until then I definitely won't upgrade. A mini pc without dedicated gpu sounds like a dream tbf

[terse glade]

especially on energy consumption standpoint (for everyone who needs to pay their own energy bill know what i mean)

[tawny mauve]

what are the TVs that have android 12?

[peak bane]

does anyone still play Battlefield 3 Looking for someone for the Coop Miossions

[light wave]

They are, mine are banged up as shit lmao

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-5-5500x3d-a-more-affordable-6-core-cpu-with-3d-v-cache-spotted-in-eec-filing

Zen 3 most milked generation

[toxic wigeon]

Now it's just boring.

The 5700x3d was really cool.

Hell the 5600x3d.

But at this point no one is buying a 5500x3d.

[candid flame]

if it's cheap I could see it being popular in Asia

[coarse nimbus]

Does it come pre loaded with the hacks?

[brave sundial]

Sony's tvs come with the latest android TV. That and Hisense I think

But it's better to just get any TV you want and a chromecast, those come with the latest android TV too

[tawny mauve]

I read only Sony's a95l does

[brave sundial]

Oh, I thought all of their tvs came with it

[terse glade]

Wtf

[tawny mauve]

also the chromecast is getting a successor next September
https://blog.google/products/google-nest/google-tv-streamer/

[brave sundial]

Yeah I know, stupid decision

Should've just slightly upgraded the 4K one with stuff like av1 support

Now it costs double the amount and you need to supply your own hdmi cable

The previous gen was perfect

They also downgraded the remote imo, previous one was nice with the volume buttons on the side like on a phone

[tawny mauve]

ethernet port but wifi 5

[tawny mauve]

I see

[willow schooner]

I hated the previous one. Removing the cable as a point of failure is a good thing imo. My last one became unusable due to the male HDMI going bad.

[alpine nexus]

It would be nice if they would allow you to remap the Netflix/Hulu buttons instead of opening those apps to allow you open any app you would like

[brave sundial]

You can, just not officially

But the new one also includes a special re-mappable button

[brave sundial]

I have my youtube one set to open smarttube, an adfree version of YouTube for example.

You can also map buttons with double or triple presses, or even holding. Really useful

[brave sundial]

Yeah..

Google sure loves selling under-specced hardware for premium prices. This costs more than an apple tv 4k now

[tawny mauve]

my classpro tv is android 11 and chromecast/tv streamer are the only way to use ps remote play for tv

the app needs 12 os minimum

[gentle void]

I want a TV to mount to my wall for when I go to bed at night.

[alpine nexus]

That’s awesome, but even better if it would be officially

In 2 min they will be the event

[white apex]

I've just ordered Ryzen 7 5700X3D and a RAM boost to 32GB, so let's see 🙂

[alpine nexus]

Mind if I ask how much u paid ?

[white apex]

EUR 200

[alpine nexus]

Oh snap , if you were in US and close to a Micro Center you could have got 7800X3D for $200

[brave sundial]

Americans always getting the insanely good deals

[molten coral]

probably without tax

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[brave sundial]

even with tax I see Americans on tech subreddits posting stupidly low priced deals.

"guys I got this 4080 for $600, did I get scammed"

[prime jasper]

I'd believe about 5% of what you read from people on the internet

it used to 15%, but then Facebook brought all the boomers aboard and it went to shit

[brave sundial]

I mean they post the actual receipts and links to the site

Atleast I'm better of than alot of Asian or other European countries, they have it even worse.

[prime jasper]

Even if that's true, which, I mean, the American market for PC parts is substantially larger than Europe's, what kind of a fucking sociopath takes a picture of their receipt to put it on the internet?

"Look what I got guys! Here's my receipt"

If someone walked up to me in real life and said that I'd wonder what ward they escaped from

[brave sundial]

I mean it's usually them asking people if they got a good deal or showing off

Either way that's pretty normal

[prime jasper]

Maybe on reddit I guess

[brave sundial]

I mean that's what observer's been doing here for the last few weeks until he was finally able to complete his build lol

[prime jasper]

And even if no one says it to his face, we all low key realize he was just flexing.

I still love you @mystic flax

Shit. I'd be flexing on the internet too. It's not like anyone in my real life gives a shit

[molten coral]

[mystic flax]

Having spent 5-6k on this PC, it's a no brainier the flex a bit

[molten coral]

But yeah tech in the US is a lot cheaper than it would be in EU

[prime jasper]

Yeah, exactly.

[midnight crypt]

flexing on the poors

[molten coral]

even just looking at something like an iphone

[brave sundial]

Their trade-in deals.. man I'm envious

[prime jasper]

More people can afford the tech in the US, so they mass ship it there, hence it's cheaper. It's just....you know, companies making money

[brave sundial]

They can just pay like $150 more to upgrade their phones to the next model and get freebies

[molten coral]

Like a base iphone 15 for 800? Meanwhile I pay at least 1k.

and don't get me started on the pro versions

[midnight crypt]

VAT and electronic taxes are thing in EU

[brave sundial]

Meanwhile here they'll pay you like $200 at most for a perfect condition latest model lmao

[prime jasper]

I don't think someone's going to send a pallet of 4090s to Latvia to help bring down the market

[mystic flax]

It's a perk when your nation is a comfortable place to set up your company

[molten coral]

in the Netherlands we pay 21% tax on all electronics

[brave sundial]

Didn't they catch someone smuggling gpus into China a few months back lmao

[dry pike]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-gasp-sarcastic-shocked-surprised-gif-20229446

[mystic flax]

Unlike Europe and their consumer friendly regulations and product taxes🤮

I kid

[dry pike]

Denmark doesn't have an electronics tax, we just tax everything heavily 😄

[brave sundial]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/underground-network-smuggles-nvidia-gpus-into-china-despite-us-sanctions-some-smugglers-even-sell-entire-servers

[prime jasper]

while that really sucks, disposing of electronics is not fun. most people in America don't give a shit though. I have a box in my closet full of electronics I'm praying someone needs some day. So many people just throw their phones and shit in the trash here. It's really sad

[brave sundial]

[molten coral]

I don't really care either tbh

[prime jasper]

Everyone will care one day, but yeah, probably nothing to worry about immediately

[midnight crypt]

I have 2 dedicated places in just my city where i can recycle shit

[molten coral]

one day when I'm already 6 feet under the ground

[brave sundial]

I mean there's mostly usable e-waste and then there's literal e-waste

[midnight crypt]

Is the US still dumping their trash in the ocean?

[mystic flax]

Yeah once the US gets a EU regulation mindset and fuck over every company abusing the lack of regulations in the US

[prime jasper]

Which country does NOT dump their trash in the ocean? give me a break

[dry pike]

The most effective thing to do is probably what EU is doing with repairability and phone OS updates

[prime jasper]

I know no one "does officially"

but jesus, give me a break

[mystic flax]

Like when that day comes it would be glorious

[brave sundial]

Don't they 'offload' it to countries like Malaysia

Or did they stop doing that now

[midnight crypt]

Many do offload

unfortunately

[prime jasper]

Yeah. I really trust Malyasia to handle my e-waste responsibly.

[brave sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/tpb-trailer-park-boys-ricky-to-fuck-off-gif-19480783

"your problem now"

[midnight crypt]

I dont have any numbers on that though

[prime jasper]

I'm sure that dude getting $1 a day is really following regulations

[mystic flax]

The day when Google is split up would be so fucking epic which could happen very soon as they are now labeled as a monopoly.

[brave sundial]

Weren't they always labeled that, well atleast their search engine

They certainly aren't a monopoly with something like the android OS or play store

[molten coral]

wonder if Firefox gonna survive without google paying them

[midnight crypt]

I hope not

[brave sundial]

Just crush them up and recycle like apple and market them as 'environment-friendly', take away the charger from the box and surge prices

[midnight crypt]

it would be funny

[brave sundial]

Unfortunately I really don't think so

[dry pike]

To be fair, lots of companies need to be split up. Like Amazon servers, shop and video etc. Microsoft OS and game division etc. etc.

[brave sundial]

Mozilla's former head was also an idiot with how they spent resources

[prime jasper]

While shutting down Amazon sounds like a great idea, the fact I don't have to go to Walmart and spend $20 on a fucking towel when I can just order one for $5 and have it sent to my house from Amazon, I'm not entirely thrilled about the prospect

[brave sundial]

The second the new one came is when they actually started to listen to user feedback and now we're finally getting tab groups and vertical tabs

[dry pike]

That wouldn't stop that. However, Amazon the shop would have to pay a fair price for the servers that run their site if they choose to buy that from Amazon the cloud service.

[brave sundial]

Which btw we had before.. Years ago but then they mysteriously disappeared for no reason and mozilla refuses to elaborate why

[prime jasper]

I really can't even comment on the server aspect of it, but I'd be pretty devastated if I had to start socializing again.

[brave sundial]

Let's also split up broadcom while we're at it

[dry pike]

You can order towels on other shops. Shops that can't undercut the market and run with looses year after year due to having a profitable server business to siphon money from.

[brave sundial]

Amazon does deserve some heavy regulating again too, casually cloning products from competitors and pricing them so insanely low and promoting theirs over the competitor's they drive them out of business

[dry pike]

to just raise the prices once the competition is gone

exactly

[brave sundial]

yep

[prime jasper]

Walmart already murdered all the local business in my town 15 years ago. I feel for local shopowners that have to go through this, but Amazon needs to stay around just long enough to destroy Walmart. Then we're good.

good old rust belt

[brave sundial]

I'm not American but I'd prefer if competition like Walmart still existed.

[prime jasper]

It a large city, you might be right. If I can't find something at Dollar General or Wal Mart, I'm not buying it unless I drive an hour. period.

[prime jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wLXQnZjcjU

[obsidian sedge]

So how does overclocking a GPU work?

I'm pretty much new to PC gaming and i would like to see what most things are. I have looked online but everything is minecraft enchantment table for me

[midnight crypt]

Step 1

Don't

[obsidian sedge]

Is it really that inadvisable?

[midnight crypt]

If it's an Nvidia card don't bother, you won't squeeze any more performance out of it

If it's an AMD card

Just don't

[obsidian sedge]

are there reasons for that?

I'm just asking

i'm not going to do it but i was just wondering what the consequences could be

[midnight crypt]

Worse or unstable performance

[obsidian sedge]

I see

i was looking through the AMD adrenalin software and enabled the overclocking thing for the GPU, of course i reverted it back to disabled

because i wasn't sure what it did

Leaving everything standard is probably the best option

I am no technician but i'll let the people at the PC shop work on my rig if i want upgrades or stuff like that

[midnight crypt]

It's just gonna chug more Watts for close to 0 gain in performance

[obsidian sedge]

Getting better specs is a better option then i assume?

[midnight crypt]

Yes

[coarse nimbus]

meanwhile im over here still needing to increase my 3070s clock in my precision x1 program because i forgot what i had it set to in my other computer

[obsidian sedge]

now i remember why i was a console gamer for years lol

didn't have to deal with all these things

feels good to be on pc though ngl

[lofty light]

You still don’t need to deal with it nowadays, can just ignore it lol

[coarse nimbus]

i paid for this whole gpu...ima get all my monies worth

[lofty light]

[coarse nimbus]

ram/cpu OCing has gotten significantly easier? is that safe to say

[lofty light]

I mean it has but it’s also gotten much much less worth it

Back in the 900 series days you’d get a bunch of extra performance

Nowadays it’s single percentage for a lot of trial and effort

[coarse nimbus]

yeah fair, the ryzen cpus being more top end of their performance potential out of the box?

or ironically.. under volting it to get better performance

[lofty light]

Intel are like that too unless you’ve got insane cooling

And gpus

[toxic wigeon]

I was looking at getting my ram OC'd but what I found instead was that I got an AMD and Intel nerd teaming up to tell me no.

[pastel field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LaT4sDr94A