technology

[willow schooner]

7800x3d is over 2x the price, the boards you'd need to run it are probably 3x the price of what you'd need for a 5700x3d, and you'll also need DDR5, when DDR4 is also cheaper

I dont think its worth it just the have the latest/best gaming CPU. when the 5700x3d is many times cheaper, and still not a tonne slower

Rough pricing ATM being

• 5700x3D - 199 USD
• 7800x3d - 388 USD

[coarse nimbus]

yeah, but if i got 6 years out of my current one, im not really looking to replace a new cpu in 2-3 years anyways so the dead end factor seems to be less of an issue

plus as bsod is saying the price difference for the mobo and ram seems like enough of a deciding factor

[willow schooner]

Well the motherboard and ram price difference is not massive, but it all adds up.

IMHO, most people would be happy with the performance they get with the 5700x3d.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/was-ryzen-9000-delayed-over-a-simple-typo-amd-ryzen-9-9700x-spotted#disqus_thread

[pale quartz]

no it's fake

[coarse nimbus]

so just doing some rough ballparking a b550 board ~$90, and 32gb of ram ~$55

vs 650m board $135 and 32gb ~$112
with the 5700 vs 7800 its $355 vs $630, in just those 3 parts but $173 more cpu will do that i suppose

[willow schooner]

Seems roughly correct, tho do make sure to get 3600mhz memory, at least a decent kit as it benefits that cpu.

[coarse nimbus]

for the 7800? from what i was reading quickly about the 5700, 3200 was fine because the differences in fast/slow ram is way less noticeable

[toxic wigeon]

Oh wait no

The 7800 would like 6000

[spare leaf]

I've ryzen 5 7600 and all is going good

[willow schooner]

3600mhz DDR4 for 5700x3d, 6000mhz DDR5 for 7800x3d

Those are the optimal speeds for RAM to sync with infinity fabric.

[pale quartz]

remember cas latency

more important than the bandwidth itself in many aspects

[quick locust]

38 ns memory latency

[molten flame]

CL18 2133 DDR4

overclocked DDR2 might be faster

[ivory creek]

i also read somewhere that the difference between 3200 and 3600 was minimal for atleast the 5800x3d. but i still got a ddr4 3600mhz cl16 kit

[pale quartz]

yes, the cache makes it nonexistent because memory sensitivity is removed for the IF

[molten flame]

there was only like 1-2% performance difference between using 2133 and 3600 memory on 5800X3D lol

https://www.pcguide.com/news/nvidia-hit-by-supply-shortage-for-rtx-4070-and-up-gddr6x-batch-quality-issue-blamed/

quality issues with GDDR6X

4090 out of stock in most places

[coarse nimbus]

So are there just no b550 boards with 3 m.2 slots on them?

[brave sundial]

Just partition a very large capacity drive

Like I did and now I'm booting Windows, hackintosh and Linux on the same drive

[coarse nimbus]

I see the am5 boards have 3 but didn't see any in the b550 section unless there's a higher tier am4 that has it

[mystic flax]

Thank god I purchased my 4090 earlier

There are only 3 white 4090 Rog strix left on Amazon

[candid flame]

https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/amd-fluid-motion-frames-2-technical-preview-now-available/ba-p/697448

[terse glade]

Dramatic times

[pallid grotto]

Would need some help as I still don't have great PC knowledge (only basics) 👀

My GF's PC has terrible performance in games from all of the sudden. I tried to Update drivers, revert to old drivers, run antivirus, check its performance but I found nothing... PC runs fine in desktop, web browsing and overall would not notice any issues until game is started... PC was able to run BF2042 on 140 Fps, Baldurs Gate 3 on 100+Fps but now BF2042 has like 20-30Fps and its same with other games.. Huge stutters with Fps drops to even 9-12Fps

[coarse nimbus]

Let's start the doom train...bad ram?

[pallid grotto]

How to check or know it is bad tho.?

[pale quartz]

which gpu?

[midnight crypt]

watch it be dead ram

or something

[pallid grotto]

RTX 3060 , 12Gb

[coarse nimbus]

Taking one stick out at a time and seeing if the same issue happens? not sure would you have to move one of the sticks into the "primary slot?"

[pale quartz]

you need to check the clocks to make sure its actually entering a pl1 state, run msi afterburner when booting a game and see what it is

[pallid grotto]

Do I need to set anything in the MSI Afterburner, or just let it run while game is booting up.?👀

[pale quartz]

no, just boot it

[pallid grotto]

Okey, will download MSI Afterburner and try it, thanks as always.

[willow schooner]

Would running hwinfo and an affected game not also tell you this info?

[ivory creek]

i got checkerboard stuff in some browsers while switching between stuff for a milisecond, i havent had it since i turned off resizeable bar. does that mean my gpu is unstable? ive seen some people say they gain advantages with it on but idk

[pale quartz]

yes, just a diff tool

[pale quartz]

this was addressed in the 22631.3668 build, upgrade to 24h2 if you havent already, and yes keep resizeable bar on, always

[willow schooner]

Stuff like this is usually a faulty mount, PCIE seat...or worst case a dying power supply

[mystic flax]

Getting my case tomorrow. Genuinely excited to set up and start building it

[ivory creek]

nice, good luck with all of it

[ember vigil]

@mystic flax @mystic flax

[ivory creek]

[mystic flax]

What

[ivory creek]

he want you to donate your computer to him

[past marten]

Is anyone else besides me having problems with Battlefield not updating your stats on battlefieldtracker.com ?

[midnight crypt]

It's slow sometimes

[past marten]

it says i'm level 139 but i'm level 156

[tawny mauve]

https://youtu.be/uXmnmyNy1UQ?si=bnfbbiy_rfWSnzHo

[brave sundial]

Light and thin while having both a headphone jack and sd card reader, based Asus

unlike some other companies with much thicker laptops

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/sk-hynix-confirms-gddr7-memory-will-enter-mass-production-in-third-quarter

28 and 32 Gbps

[tawny mauve]

So thin compared to my lenovo

The hdmi here has some space above and below, unlike the video

[mystic flax]

I'm on UPS tracker and my case is just a few minutes away

[coarse nimbus]

Are you wagging your tail at the door in anticipation?

[mystic flax]

Finally got it

[mystic flax]

My CPU cooler radiator is to large FUCK

Welp I can still put everything together

Just not the CPU cooler yet

I'ma get an air cooler instead honestly

It's a amd 7 7800x3d

It won't get that hot

[storm osprey]

why not a 360? should fit vertically on the back panel

[mystic flax]

I'ma get a 360. I'm a moron who didn't notice that the case couldn't fit a 420

Honestly fuck it black cooler

I can get a 360 Arctic liquid freezer III overnight or tomorrow

But it's black

[storm osprey]

(another reason i dont do themed/white builds)

thankfully 99.999% of bang for buck parts are just black

[mystic flax]

Honestly I don't think it will be that bad

It's going to be above and since the motherboard is black it can blend in a bit

[storm osprey]

it would bother the poo out of me personally

[willow schooner]

Any radiator will fit any case with a bit of DIY 😛

[coarse nimbus]

Were you using the PC builder website? Or just looked at stuff individually

[mystic flax]

I was using a PC builder website

Also shouldn't the case or motherboard have screws to install it

[coarse nimbus]

And it didn't flag that incompatibility?

[mystic flax]

Nope

[coarse nimbus]

Pretty sure the case comes with hardware for that? The standoffs/screws

[mystic flax]

Yep I found the screws

[coarse nimbus]

That's rough though oof... guess it's not a fool proof system

[storm osprey]

physical dimensions are hit or miss, especially for new components like the hyte y70 considering observer pre ordered it

(though their website says it only supports up to 360mm)

[lost cargo]

https://apple.news/AK2wj2aksTdWfqBVzxwIC9g

Meta got fucked

[willow schooner]

Will that rad not go in the top?

[coarse nimbus]

Meta fucking is the best kind

[mystic flax]

Installed the CPU, SSD, ram, and motherboard

[coarse nimbus]

Be a shame if that cpu got dirty with thermal paste

[prime jasper]

be sure to upload your thermal paste application so everyone can criticize it

[mystic flax]

Lol

Well now I gotta do cables

Not that excited

[prime jasper]

your computer is starting to look like mine

cool

i enjoy the black and white aesthetic

[prime jasper]

I think you're going to have a lot more space for cables than I do though.

[mystic flax]

Does anyone know where these cables go

These are case cables

[prime jasper]

the usb 2.0 cable shoudl go into your motherboard and the sata cable is the rgb for your case? and you plug a sata power cable into it

I mean

I would need to like, see the whole cable

but that's my guess

are those running FROM the case?

[storm osprey]

Not my build, but I assume vertical clearance issues with mb heatsink and wire pass through

[prime jasper]

yeah I think that usb 2.0 cable should go into the bottom of the motherboard and if your power supply is modular which i assume it is, a sata power cable will go into that other cable

but i'm blind as fuck and my glasses are next to my sleeping daughter so, dunno

what model is your motherboard

[mystic flax]

Modular is a PSU that is separated from the cables

[prime jasper]

if it doesn't fit, it's the wrong place

if it fits, you're fine

don't sweat it

[coarse nimbus]

The worst part about cables for me was always the single wire connectors for the front io?

[prime jasper]

as far as that SATA cable running from the case, it will be the same cable you'd plug into a hard drive to power it.

[prime jasper]

screw that. i did it once and prayed. thankfully i got it right

[coarse nimbus]

Luckily the Mobo is labeled but yeah getting the single pin connectors next to the multi ones etc was a slight pain sometimes

[prime jasper]

I've had cases where they're all attached, nice and simple. the case i had now was four separate wires. even with great eyes and the patience of a saint it's difficult

[prime jasper]

the sata cable does not plug into the motherboard, i should probably clarify that. you're going to need a power cable from the power supply to that cable.

or maybe a controller, i don't have one though. so my advice may be fucked

[mystic flax]

So I noticed that motherboards have a 8 pin PCIe and a 4 pin CPU but this case has a both in 8 pin

[molten coral]

just the read the manual easiest shit ever

[prime jasper]

I think the problem is how small it is. rtfm doesn't apply here.

[molten coral]

then hold them all in place with your fingers and put them in place in one go?

that's how I do it

[prime jasper]

the next time you build a computer, please, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, demonstrate it. one shot, one fluid motion.

I would love to see it

[molten coral]

nobody said it was fluid

but it isn't hard by any means

had more issues with all the shitty rgb cables tbh

[prime jasper]

Maybe I just have zero patience

[molten coral]

next build 0 rgb on anything

[prime jasper]

only reason I have rgb is because my case had it built in and I can't turn off the light on my video card 😐

[molten coral]

I bought a bunch of ''cool'' rgb stuff like gskill RAM, corsair fans one of those kraken nzxt coolers.

Was fun for 2 weeks and then I turned everything off

picture of my old setup

[willow schooner]

Some boards allow 2 8 pin CPU powers. These are both specifically CPU power, not PCIE power, so don't try to connect PCIE from your power supply.

[lost cargo]

Is that a GPU cooler?

Nvrm. I’m dumb asf

Yesterday I seen someone with a GPU cooler

[molten coral]

better picture?

[lost cargo]

I zoomed in and seen the normal cables

[molten coral]

[lost cargo]

I’m a slow fuck rn

[willow schooner]

All gpus have coolers 😜

[lost cargo]

The one I’m talking about. You take off the back plate for a cooler attachment thingy

[willow schooner]

I used an aio bracket cooler when I had a 1080

[molten coral]

i need to replace my gpu at some point, got 4 ports and 3 of them are not working so I can only use 1 screen.

[mystic flax]

Ok 2 CPU cables and the big motherboard cable

Did I do this right? I haven't touched the GPU or fans just yet

[willow schooner]

Is the system posting?

[lost cargo]

Is GPU attachment coolers even worth it. I heard they are good but I barely see people use them. Is it because they don’t want to affect their warranty?

[willow schooner]

I usually build any system with an AIO outside the case. It's a pain in the ass correctly attaching the cooler and radiators once the board is already in there

Cooler adapters are pretty pointless now. Modern GPUs are pain to disassemble

Coolers are also a lot better now

[lost cargo]

One thing I wish about my EVGA 3080. Only one fan spin as the other two don’t while playing games. My fans in my pc keep it cool but i wish all 3 of my gpu fans work

On pc boot up aka initial power on, I see them spin but when it fully boots up windows it don’t spin but one

[willow schooner]

You can control that

[lost cargo]

How?

[willow schooner]

MSI afterburner should be able to set all fans to spin.

[ivory creek]

I think i hurt the ball bearings of one of my gpus fans, and it has started to make alot of Noice but im too afraid of messing up to switch the fan myself, and i cant find any place that offers services like gpu repair

[lost cargo]

I used MSI afterburner. It’s not doing anything to the other 2 fans

Is it because it’s not recognizing it?

[willow schooner]

There should be a way to select which fans it controls

[toxic wigeon]

Set fans to spin

[lost cargo]

It only shows 2 fans.

[willow schooner]

Pic?

[lost cargo]

From MSI or the pc?

[willow schooner]

MSI

[ivory creek]

I need to use my gpus own software to fully controll all fans aswell. Doesnt work in msi afterburner

[willow schooner]

Like there should be 2 fans, but one of those controllers controls 2 fans, the other controls the 3rd, no?

[lost cargo]

Only one spin. But shows 2

[willow schooner]

Do they all spin if you set power mode to prefer max performacne

[coarse nimbus]

stop shaming me, this is mod abuse

[lost cargo]

nope just one

[willow schooner]

So do the others just never spin?

[lost cargo]

Nope

They just don’t

[ivory creek]

Try your gpus manufacturers own software

[willow schooner]

So the GPU is broken?

[lost cargo]

So EVGA?

[ivory creek]

Yeah

[willow schooner]

Or they dont even spin when you turn on the PC. the OG post wasnt clear

Precision X, or whatever its called

[lost cargo]

They spin on initial power on pc. But don’t spin after that

When you first press the power button, they spin

[willow schooner]

And selecting this, then setting a fan speed does nothing?

[lost cargo]

Nope

[willow schooner]

The hell. Thats weird. Although EVGA 30 series was pretty jank now that I remember

[lost cargo]

Fan sync don’t apply to the other 2 idk

[willow schooner]

OOF, yeah seems they locked using the fans to their own software. Assholes

[lost cargo]

I been having this pc for a while now but my pc runs cool due to my pc fans. But gpu could be more cooler if all 3 fans run

[willow schooner]

Precision X should allow you to use all 3. But they are idiots for requiring their own software. Especially since they no longer update it

[lost cargo]

I maxed it out but nothing

[willow schooner]

unlink the fans?

And did you hit apply (Stupid question, but id rather ask it than do 20 minutes of troubleshooting)

[lost cargo]

Same thing, nothing

[lost cargo]

Oops. Welp

2 works now

[willow schooner]

haha

So they all work now?

[lost cargo]

That middle one don’t work

[willow schooner]

hmm, fan 2 still not spinning, odd

[lost cargo]

Prob the broken fan

[willow schooner]

Where does the arrow beside the fan speeds lead?

[lost cargo]

Temp tune graph, fan speed controller graph, VF curve tuner

[brave sundial]

Nice wallpaper

[lost cargo]

Thanks ☺️

[brave sundial]

I found a similar styled one for BF1 on wallpaper engine

[lost cargo]

I don’t like wall paper engine tbh. Not yet.

Abit of a performance hog imo

[brave sundial]

You can config it to stop when you're full-screening a game or something

That's what I did, very little usage in the background after I did that

[lost cargo]

Ehh… I’ll wait till I get a Rtx 40s or 50s pc

Also not much is eye popping from wallpaper engine to me tbh

[brave sundial]

What I like about WE is how versatile it is, you can achieve those rainmeter 'setups' without actually having to use that, while having a nice animated background too.

[lost cargo]

Animated background is meh. I like a static pic more

[mystic flax]

My progress

[prime jasper]

I use WE on my second monitor for a clock for the room. function!

[mystic flax]

I need to install the intake fans and connect all 4 with the rbg cables and what not.

The CPU cooler which will sadly be black this time will come tomorrow

I got a cooler that was way too damn large

That first picture was awful

So here's a better one

[lost cargo]

What RTX is that?

[coarse nimbus]

4090 strix?

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-cash-money-counting-money-gif-17544086

[coarse nimbus]

oh lawd the bottom of that case looks like a dusting nightmare

[coarse nimbus]

we need to ask him what the total cost of this build is 💀

[prime jasper]

Time to stop being an @mystic flax and be a TELLER

[brave sundial]

static pic can't give you something as cool as this though

ps2 animated wallpaper

[lost cargo]

Ew

[brave sundial]

yeah it's seriously versatile with what you can do with it

[lost cargo]

I want something modern. Not old

Also black and red color

[mystic flax]

5 grand

Nearing 6 grand probably

Actually I think I installed everything that can make it turn on

Let me get a surge protector

[willow schooner]

I hope CAD haha

[brave sundial]

black and red is actually what I coloured the other wallpaper I use

[lost cargo]

Still ew

[brave sundial]

well I guess taste is subjective

[coarse nimbus]

thats more than i was expecting

[brave sundial]

I mean he spent like $500 for just the storage?

buying some crazy overkill nvme with a fat heatsink slapped on it

I suppose he's set for life though

[mystic flax]

Just tested it

IT CAN RUN

The GPU turns on, the ram lights up, the case monitor turns on

Just need to get the fans connected

[lost cargo]

Just figured that out

[coarse nimbus]

bro fired it up with out a cooler?

_ i was going to make a joke about doing that earlier_

[mystic flax]

Just for a bit

Just to see if it can actually run

[coarse nimbus]

to make sure its working, lay it flat and get a little square of ham

it should cook it in about 45 seconds when you run a benchmark

[lost cargo]

Fry an egg

[coarse nimbus]

nah then you gotta build a little box for it to keep contained in

[lost cargo]

If it ain’t frying, it ain’t worth buying

[lost cargo]

Crack it on it, like a real man

[coarse nimbus]

wait....no one told him to put the mobo in the dishwasher before putting all the stuff on it? you gotta clean off that residue from the bag

[brave sundial]

dishwasher? you have to soak it in rice bro

[lost cargo]

No. He needs to make a bleach bath and lay everything in there. It will be perfectly clean

[coarse nimbus]

wait...technically you can wash a mobo in the dishwasher right? as long as its like 100% dry after you remove it before giving it power again?

[lost cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/nods-yes-not-wrong-its-true-story-valid-point-gif-14782869

[coarse nimbus]

isnt that what the crazy ln2 OCers do to remove all the gel shit they put on to protect it from moisture?

[lost cargo]

In the special water. Ye

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/waterboy-thatswaterfromaglacierinalaska-glacier-water-high-gif-23561515

[prime jasper]

He better have a dyson with a HEPA for intake to create positive pressure or it is going to turn into a snow globe in a week

[coarse nimbus]

in 2018 i bought the fractal design... r6? glass side window, but has the front screen covering the 2 intake fans, im amazed how much dust that keeps out all on its own, literally took years for it to build up just a tiny amount on the floor/ directly behind the front fans

[prime jasper]

the bottom and front of my bequiet! 500dx have a filter, and everything else is exhaust. i heart this case

[coarse nimbus]

https://youtube.com/shorts/zoAPy6Jc8UI?si=M_EV2I4e3qxg45k7 lmao thermal paste video i got recommended

[prime jasper]

i think i did just 9 dots in symmetry like tic tac toe when i had my air cooler, when i switched to an AIO i wiped off the thermal paste and went with the x. there was way too much runoff when I went rogue and tried my own pattern

[coarse nimbus]

interesting how it was only 35-34 difference, so not the end of the world "if you did it wrong"

[prime jasper]

the first time I did it, it stressed me out. now I get bored and reapply thermal paste to as many devices as I can find. I mean they give me five applications in one tube, and I'm buying a new tube no matter what when I get a new processor/cooler. So many things to reapply paste to

[coarse nimbus]

it cant last 5 years in the tube?

i paid for it, ima use it all up!

[mystic flax]

I'm so close to finishing this PC

There are extra cables I need to look into

And I need the CPU cooler

But after all of that I'm done building

[mystic flax]

Ok so my fans do light up with RGB but they aren't spinning, will this be available once Im doing bios and that junk

Or did I miss a step

[coarse nimbus]

very likely the fan curve for them is set up where they just dont turn on until its warm enough?

[mystic flax]

I can't really have it on for that long to guarantee that the fans aren't working

Because the CPU got no cooler

[pale quartz]

the case fans will not spin until you get the CPU cooler mounted

the pc will not boot

[mystic flax]

Makes sense

Other than that everything else runs. Just not long enough before the CPU overheats

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9000-pricing-emerges-9950x-at-599-9900x-at-449-9700x-at-359-9600x-at-279

7800X3D will outsell the 9700X for many months to come

Until 9800X3D

[prime jasper]

ngl. I'm kind of excited to see the end of @mystic flax 's PC build today. I hope the cooler comes.

[coarse nimbus]

As long as the magic smoke doesn't come out on the first boot

[prime jasper]

The stakes are always higher when the cost was so high. I spent a third on my build and was stressed out. It's like watching reality tv

eh, maybe half, but still

[mystic flax]

Honestly the only time I was full on stressed was installing the CPU and finding out that the CPU cooler was to big for the case

After that it was just watching tutorials

Which paid off as my first time turning it on was a success

[prime jasper]

at least I don't have to line up pins anymore. When I was probably 12 years old, I was tasked with upgrading my pentium processor to the MMX chipset.

which I'm not even sure why it was marketed as an upgrade, because i completely swapped the cpu out. but whatever. it was stressful

[plain forge]

We make mistakes and delays in life because of the lack of information. So because I’m an Expert Trader, out of my Godly heart will give a learning opportunity
Feel free to seek for my guidance on crypto trading

[coarse nimbus]

You should feel better knowing AMD chips are easier to install

[midnight crypt]

Thanks for the free scam really appreciate it!

[plain forge]

Hey watch what you say to people I only offered to teach interested people how to trade I never asked for a pay

[willow schooner]

PC building these days is easier than building a LEGO set haha

[prime jasper]

No one offers anything for free. No one.

[plain forge]

That’s how the poor reasons

[prime jasper]

Uh, no, that's how intelligent business owners reason. Now fuck off, twat.

[mystic flax]

Honestly yeah, there are Lego sets that took me days to build

[willow schooner]

Haha same, and which came with more confusing instructions 😄

[mystic flax]

Like the Titanic set which is damn massive

[brave sundial]

try building a technic car

Even lego themselves literally mess up with the instructions and you have to manually ask them to send replacement bricks or corrected instructions lmao

[willow schooner]

The last thing I built was the lego infinity gauntlet

[lost cargo]

Lego sets have confusing instructions looks like a skill issue

[willow schooner]

But that was pretty easy

[mystic flax]

Installing the AIO, will I need the single AIO cable or the cable that is divided into 3

[lost cargo]

Cut it in 3

[mystic flax]

I looked it up so the CPU fan is where I can use the single AIO cable

And OPT is for a secondary fan cooler

[storm osprey]

depends on aio, some aios use 2 connectors, one for pump and one for fan

[mystic flax]

Better image

[mystic flax]

I'm guessing this is a bad thing

This is what it looks like when turning on

In that video I also see the motherboard has a red light

Honestly the motherboards red light may be a bios issue

And the GPU red light only turns on when the PSU is on but turns off when I turn the case on

[turbid verge]

New custom keyboards soon

Only miss the base plate keyboard part

[mystic flax]

Ok the fans may just need to be updated in bios and in a Corsair fan application

But that should be everything

This beauty can finally be hooked up to a monitor

[coarse nimbus]

A single monitor?

[storm osprey]

isnt it a massive 4k monitor though?

[mystic flax]

32 inch 4k monitor

Also size difference between the current PC and my new pc

[coarse nimbus]

That's an entire end table

How heavy is that case alone?

[mystic flax]

Quite heavy

Like I can't trust myself to walk faster while carrying it

[coarse nimbus]

Do you even lift bro

[mystic flax]

This shit is heavy man, the case by itself is 30 pounds

Add the GPU, motherboard, CPU cooler, PSU and all of that junk

[willow schooner]

Put it on rollerblade wheel castors

[toxic wigeon]

Get a flat trolley.

[mystic flax]

Just weighed it. It's 50 pounds

[toxic wigeon]

Fuck that.

Practically the weight of a small bomb.

[digital hill]

Eeh, if it's small distances he should be fine

I carried crt home and a long distance, I would pick up and walk a bit and put down, rest and pick it back up

I think I carried one weighing over 50 pounds before

[keen vector]

tried defragging the computer and it's still laggy,

tried deleting my browser history, still laggy

[storm osprey]

define laggy

[midnight crypt]

i hope you didnt defrag on an ssd

[keen vector]

drop of framerate and stuttering, sometimes freezing

[keen vector]

I defrad my Windows

[brave sundial]

what

Is your windows installation on a seperate drive or something

You might want to check your start up apps in task manager

[keen vector]

I don't belieeve so. I defrag or "optimized" my windows (C:) hard-drive 2 times now, once in the morning and another this afternoon

[pale quartz]

[keen vector]

What did I do wrong Deco?

[mystic flax]

Just installed the new monitor to the current PC

Just for convenience for tomorrow

Getting the USB tomorrow

The monitor is straight up noticeably better

[keen vector]

thats good I guess

[prime jasper]

Getting the USB? I don't understand

[keen vector]

looking at it. I know the rules but I can't find anyone else who had dealt with this issue online

[prime jasper]

if you think it's your hard drive, which I'm assuming it is because you said you defragged it, then maybe it's reached the end of its life. You're better off buying an SSD anyway. You can get a 500 GB SSD for what, $35-40? Bite the bullet. It will change your computing experience anyway.

but I don't diagnose hard drives because I only dispose of them

[keen vector]

well I'm using a HP gaming previlon, I don't think i can change disks without tearing the whole thing apart XD

[toxic wigeon]

Can you smell the colours?

[mystic flax]

Nah gotta wait for 8k monitors

But my god is it better

[coarse nimbus]

how many times did your bank call you throughout all this?

or did the fire department have to come and extinguish your card?

[storm osprey]

cant imagine a size that 8k would even be noticeable

[prime jasper]

I'm tapped out at 3440 x 1440 for a computer display. I'd need the eyes of a cat to be jonesing for something more

[storm osprey]

i feel like no one NEEDS more than 1440p at 27"

like, you really gotta be paying attention to notice jaggies or pixels

[prime jasper]

I actually find that if games are TOO well defined, it looks like shit. I was playing BF2042 on an i5-4670K and 1660 TI. Somehow, when I upgraded it looked worse even though it looked objectively better. Maybe because the imperfections were hidden behind a haze. i dunno.

but when it's in 4K I think "wow, that looks nothing like debris on the ground at all. it looks like a bunch of shitty .png files someone made in microsoft paint"

[lost cargo]

its 4D?

[coarse nimbus]

is 1tb book drive ssd common these days due to the low price?

[quick locust]

So uhh

Anyone happen to have spare 4TB HDDs

Two of four of my NAS drives started building uncorrectable sectors

[karmic leaf]

By the way Microsoft has discontinued access to old "unsecure" apps such as my Sony's default android Mail client 🥲 #HelloDarknessMyOldFriend
Now I have permanent recurring "notifications" that the app failed to connect.... yet (and here's the funny bit), mails keep arriving and being notified! But I can't send/receive manually.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-strix-halo-zen5-apu-leak-shows-307mm²-die-with-rdna3-5-graphics-compared-to-rtx-4070-80w

iGPU is huge

supposed to be fast as RTX 4070 laptop

Asus is putting this APU in a gaming tablet lol

total size of APU is 439mm^2, not far from the size of a 7900XTX lol

max TDP is 110W

[lost cargo]

4070 in a tablet

Bro gonna be playing cod mobile with a 4070

[molten flame]

1000 fps

[terse glade]

What in the name of christ

Holy

I legit don't need a gpu anymore then tbh

[molten flame]

16 cores is overkill for a gaming APU but I think that's the point of it tbh

rather have 8 cores and use the extra power savings towards the GPU

[terse glade]

Maybe they think 16 cores are crucial for productivity

[lost cargo]

Question is, is it windows based or android based tablet. If it’s windows based. I understand the performance and 16 cores

If it’s android based. Then it’s a overkill imo

[terse glade]

Maybe they implement an android windows boot or something

Or release it on steam OS

[lost cargo]

Steam OS as a tablet would be nice. But hopefully it’s windows based. Get more use out of the APU

[brave sundial]

Finally, now we can have a portable PS4/PS3

[prime jasper]

I decorated my PC with a lego set. Pretty sure this is how it happened on The Mandalorian.

[tawny mauve]

I think Sony doing consoles + vr + handhelds is too much money to spend

[brave sundial]

Well they'll probably entirely ditch VR soon

And Sony isn't just Playstation, even if SIE is their most profitable division.

[tawny mauve]

I thought to edit it to just playstation

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intels-raptor-lake-cpu-instability-sparks-class-action-lawsuit-investigation

[quick locust]

A bit bigger than an arc A770

[coarse nimbus]

how did they manage to get bad copper in their chips?

[turbid verge]

copper with low % of copper

has other mixed metals

which can cause copper to fail and crack

[midnight crypt]

one would think a company like intel would have stuff like that on lock

[coarse nimbus]

Yeah fr

Like they didn't just start doing this

[dry pike]

Everybody will probably be able to get 5 dollars if they manage to find a random form, fill out 10 pages of information, fill it out, and wait ½ a year

[lost cargo]

When I first saw this pic my mind was thinking sum else of the guy getting shot at on the right

[tawny mauve]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-introduces-thunderbolt-5-standard.html

[prime jasper]

It's Luke being blasted away by Dark Troopers. His light saber has been confiscated

[lost cargo]

I was thinking something else

[lost cargo]

TB6 gonna support 16k

Set of 8k for creators

[mystic flax]

Ok how do I put the motherboard drivers, bios, and utility updates on a USB. Do I extract the files to that USB or do I just move the zip files to the USB

Need a step guide as I DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP ANYTHING ON THIS CURRENT PC AND THE NEW ON

[willow schooner]

Depends on the motherboard

And does your board have a dual bios

[mystic flax]

Well it's a x670 aorus elite AX

I'll check

[willow schooner]

Funny, cos this video covers exactly that board haha

https://youtu.be/JHDOwp_bsL8?si=yM2Nl3cMPe0ryTtd

[mystic flax]

Lol, what I'm more looking for is how to put the drivers on the USB properly. Hoping this video has it as I got zero luck looking on YouTube

[storm osprey]

thats convenient

[willow schooner]

Easiest way is to probably just download the bios file from their site, place it (Extract it if needed) to the usb, then select the bios file from the utility in their bios

According to gigabyte, that board has flashback.

Hidden beneath the M.2 heatsink is the 256 Mbit flash for the BIOS. This X670 AORUS Elite AX motherboard doesn't have dual BIOS, but does offer Q-Flash BIOS Flashback to update or restore from a corrupted state.

So you probably dont need to worry about BIOS corruption

As this is there as a backup

[coarse nimbus]

seems like these days it would be harder to not find your specific hardware in question on youtube
theres a damn video for everything

[willow schooner]

I kid you not, it was the first thing that popped up for me 😄

Maybe I have strong Google-Fu

[coarse nimbus]

forgot if it was for my current z370 board, or the one i had previously for a uhh 6600k, but sure enough video for it to walk me through OCing and it was very simple

[mystic flax]

So I just extract all of the zip files to that USB and the motherboard will do the rest when I put the USB in the new pc

[willow schooner]

Do you not have bios acces on the board youre updating?

[white apex]

Ryzens for AM4 - does the 3D with larger cache really matter? Esp. if in an average rig, no top tier GPu etc.

[mystic flax]

Idk I haven't hooked up anything yet. I have to make sure I download everything properly before I take out the current PC for the new one

[willow schooner]

So you wont be able to run both PCs at the same time? Swapping over parts or something?

[mystic flax]

No I only have enough room for one PC at a time

[coarse nimbus]

flag on the field here, how did you spend 5 grand on this new beast but only have room for 1 at a time

[mystic flax]

Does this look like I can fit 2 PC cases

[coarse nimbus]

you slide the current one out on the floor for a while tiny sacrifices for the greater good

[storm osprey]

ehhh, bit of a loaded question. depends on game, settings, resolution as well as hardware

there IS a difference regardless, just maybe not as big as people suggest?

[lost cargo]

ew Alienware pc

[mystic flax]

Alright I'm extracting all drivers into the USB including the recent updated bios and utility

[coarse nimbus]

excuse me we call them undocumentedware pc's around here

[mystic flax]

No idea what I'm doing at all

Just extracting and deleting the zip files after extraction

[lost cargo]

[mystic flax]

This is what I got

Do not want to do this shit for another hour or half an hour

[lost cargo]

[mystic flax]

Forgot a driver, but all of the drivers that were available are downloaded

I only put in the most recent bios and utility updates

I swear if this shit doesn't fucking work

[lost cargo]

just update them from the driver list in device settings and via windows update

i think to update bios is via boot manager from inital startup your pc. i recommend looking up your mobo on youtube or something via your phone

[willow schooner]

This situation is very weird to me, why are you not just installing the OS on the new PC before swapping it over into a set spot. Seems like you could easily just keep 2 PCs in action until your new one is set up haha

[lost cargo]

thast to

can get official OS cheap online, if you dont have a key

[willow schooner]

Just download W11 for free, install without a licence key

[lost cargo]

tru tru via usb drive

[willow schooner]

I dont get why you'd need to put all the drivers for the new PC on a USB like haha

Is just something ive never done 😄

[lost cargo]

updating mobo/bios is one thing but drivers can be updated on the pc alone

[mystic flax]

I know that I'm separating bios update with windows booter

[willow schooner]

I just build the new PC > connect one monitor/mouse/keyboard to it > install OS > Make sure it has ethernet driver > download and install all drivers for that PC on thw PC itself

[mystic flax]

The window media installer is fine I have that on a usb

I do not have any equipment for both PCs to run

At the same time

[lost cargo]

me personally have a usb for updating my mobo. but i havent done that in 2 years

[willow schooner]

Just swap em over, at max its 1 display cable, 2 USBs ha

[mystic flax]

I'ma find everything out once I uninstall all of my games from the current pc

[willow schooner]

Do you need to do that?

Steam can detect games on a drive, even from a different PC and re-install them

[lost cargo]

if its already on your ssd. no need to

[mystic flax]

I'm no longer using it and I'll piss my dad off trying to do something with the PC with most of the storage being used up

[willow schooner]

Just format the drive, no need to uninstall

[mystic flax]

It's on a HDD

[willow schooner]

Same deal

[mystic flax]

Most of my games are on a HDD

[lost cargo]

as soon you install a launcher, it detects the storage. it reads your storage with your profile cuz the games have a license linked to your profile

[lost cargo]

if it dont detect storage, you go to the launcher settings where storage tab is at and add the storage

[willow schooner]

If I understand them correctly, they are removing this storage, and giving it to their parent

It wont go into the new PC. they simply want to clear it for use by the new person

[lost cargo]

the new drive you select the storage if not reading off the back. after that. everything is playable like normal. just need to launch first time on the new pc

[toxic wigeon]

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1819121308976005215?t=bjjvAUI5oeWjXE9mCp9IYg&s=19

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

Intel is laying off over 15,000 employees and will cut $10 billion in costs. Intel also reported a loss of $1.6 billion in Q2 2024 due to its Foundry business and investments https://t.co/jdwnmNFlDw

Twitter · Aug 1, 2024, 9:21 PM

[lost cargo]

idk y i have HD2 and apex downloaded. i forgot to delete those trash games imo

[willow schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[lost cargo]

bruh... thats big

[toxic wigeon]

I don't like Intel but this is awful.

[lost cargo]

after a lost. sheesh

[toxic wigeon]

I wish they didn't have to go down this route.

[willow schooner]

imagine how bad Q3 is gonna be for them...all things considered

[lost cargo]

15k down now...

so about 109k now

[mystic flax]

I got the bios up

I'ma look for that video again

To help navigate this maze

What should I do here or do I leave it as it is

I genuinely don't know what to do here and I feel like the video doesn't help much

Like why was precision boost overdrive disabled in that video

[lost cargo]

i dont trust oc or od cuz im not comfortable using it kek

[brave sundial]

never buy volume licenses, retail is worth it even if it's costly.

[brave sundial]

AMD can finally have a monopoly for themselves

[lost cargo]

tru. but there is also people lazy out there and a cheapo

but observer is rich

[brave sundial]

or you can use a certain powershell script..

[mystic flax]

Fans aren't fucking working, I checked bios and icue and nope go fuck yourself you don't get spinning fans

And searching up the issue doesn't help as everyone has rbg issues and it NEVER gives me what I need help on

The fuck am I doing wrong, I follow the instructions

I should've never got Corsair fans

[lost cargo]

I may or may not done that before

https://forum.corsair.com/forums/topic/147939-corsair-fans-not-lighting/

@mystic flax did you check their forums?

[coarse nimbus]

sounds like theyre not spinning

[lost cargo]

O… umm I can look at their forums for not spinning. My b

[prime jasper]

I've got more faith in my motherboard and Fan Control than that iCue nonsense

[prime jasper]

you say the fans aren't working in the bios. are they even showing up in the bios?

[mystic flax]

Welp I believe I found a solution but it requires a 4 way splitter

[prime jasper]

Aw man. I bought a 2 pack when I got my AIO and went push/pull. I'd totally hook you up if you were near 😭

[lost cargo]

Is it too much for your mobo? Or what..

[prime jasper]

do you have an Apple vision you can just stream from so we can watch you do this. you definitely have the capital to afford one

[mystic flax]

Welp this is what it's going to look like

For the time being

[lost cargo]

Is it blowing air hard enough

[prime jasper]

Dude. Is that a Vornado fan?

those things are awesome

[mystic flax]

You bet

[prime jasper]

Those fans literally create a column of air that you feel it's like a laser fan

[lost cargo]

Laser of air

That’s wild due to your explanation

[prime jasper]

this is the fan I use to cool my PC

[prime jasper]

I have no other way to describe it. They're terrible for circulating air, but awesome for focus

[lost cargo]

Looks like it ain’t cooling the pc on the desk like that

[prime jasper]

I turn it toward the tower when I'm gaming

[lost cargo]

Pc needs to be ice cool all the time

[prime jasper]

that's why I keep the RGB blue. duh

[lost cargo]

color dont cool

[brave sundial]

yes it does, I keep my keyboard red during winter and it stays nice and cosy for my fingers when gaming in freezing temperatures outside

[prime jasper]

Yep. And when you need an fps boost, Orange or Yellow will do the trick.

Why do you think they put RGB in everything now?

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[lost cargo]

rub barely, if not dont generate heat

to be game chnager

[prime jasper]

I also keep a porcelain buddha in my computer case. he keeps it cool.

[molten flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/284794210974957569/1268761406040313947/image.png?ex=66ad99a3&is=66ac4823&hm=8f7dfed4ee2c63655efe22cf21918656accfc69ffb698dd9aac1a6c244f8e77c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

19500 workers not 15000

stock price went down 20% in a day

[coarse nimbus]

cats about to buy in bigly

[molten flame]

time to buy stock?

[coarse nimbus]

so many case options...but where to cut the line off money wise

[storm osprey]

it does roughly match lowest stock prices in the last 5 years

only time stock was lower significantly lower was 10 years ago

[quick locust]

One is not like the otherd

Not sure why they put an A750 next to a gtx 1660 and a 5600 XT lol

[prime jasper]

because they listed the weakest card of each brand that could run the game?

[quick locust]

A580, the step down, is faster than both of those

They also dont list A770 in recommended

Also 1080p 30 fps low with upscaler

[molten flame]

funny because 5600XT is faster than 2060

[quick locust]

And an A750 is faster than a 3060

1660 sticks out here quite a bit 😛

[molten flame]

[quick locust]

Itd be like recommending a 4060 and a 7800XT in same tier

[quick locust]

960p gaming on a 6800XT let's go

[molten flame]

11600K

[pale quartz]

few things from this to comment with:
intel's discrete graphics division is now for sure dead
IFS requires more than just this loss
gelsinger will be for sure be pressured by shareholders to resign soon (soon means a year by financial standards)

[molten flame]

[candid flame]

so no battlemage?

[molten flame]

might get canned

[brave sundial]

[pale quartz]

battlemage will launch

expect nothing after

[candid flame]

oof

I wonder what the quality of battlemage will be like

considering the quality of their cpus

[pale quartz]

itll be good for the budget tier

expect nothing much else

[candid flame]

[toxic wigeon]

How did their QA fuck up?

[pale quartz]

IFS just costs that much money

theyve put in $10b in capital costs so far so get it up to scratch and it still needs more

[lost cargo]

Well I got a WiFi 6/6e usb adapter for my pc. It’s better than my WiFi 5 one

Less latency/abit lower ping, but faster speeds

Also tried this yesterday, man my GPU is so clean now. Highly recommend doing this also

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-hit-with-u-s-doj-antitrust-investigation-over-alleged-market-dominance-abuse

[coarse nimbus]

_ observer taking notes _

[coarse nimbus]

We were wondering when you'd be buying that

[dry pike]

[quick locust]

Nvidia buying Intel /s

[brave sundial]

I mean they did say they want to enter the consumer CPU market

[lost cargo]

I did my cleaning in pure bleach. It smells like lemon now. But man it runs a lot better

[lost cargo]

That will be mind blowing ngl. I still wonder how Nvidia handles cpu market if they take that route.

[brave sundial]

I mean it seems like they really want to enter it

Considering they originally tried to acquire Arm from Softbank

Thank god that didn't go through

[pale quartz]

it's not a consideration

they explicitly said they want to make processors for consumers

they'd never be able to buy intel

[white apex]

Well, Intel is letting 15.000 people go in the latest round of lay-offs

[dry pike]

Well, their net income could be better

However, with over 20 billion in cash just lying around, it's still a dick move

[marble moth]

Guys the ones of you who are on the EU, do you mind signing this petition?It is to make the EU comission create legislation to stop game developers from stopping you from playing a game you paid for after its support ends (like soon BF4, it can only be played with an online connection, even if you are playing alone, now that they have ended the support you are not able to play that game. This policy sets a dangerous precedent for the future of one of our favourite hobbies)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMe9MxxZiI
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/_en
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/eci

[molten coral]

nah

[brave sundial]

I would but technically I'm not in the EU now

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/acer-swift-14-ai-with-intel-core-ultra-5-226v-lunar-lake-spotted-in-europe-first-retail-product-with-xe2-gpu-architecture

[tawny mauve]

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/

Sony earning call at 7th August

[coarse nimbus]

get your buy or hold memes ready?

[quick locust]

Yup oof

[umbral crater]

Lay off 15k workers

Increase CEO pay

Hell yeah

[brave sundial]

https://youtu.be/b6vQlvefGxk?si=feUvyT5K4o3XDfoU

the gamers nexus video dropped

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-blackwell-gpus-facing-delays-larger-shipments-to-start-in-2025

design defects

[midnight crypt]

suddenly everyone is finding defects

[lost cargo]

Ehh. A small delay. I wouldn’t mind a 4+ month delay. Sucks for big corporations that will use them

They will to wait even longer for better server tech

[pastel field]

Any thoughts on this ?

Better upgrade than Pebble V3?

[candid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/chi-pu-vietnamese-actress-nguyen-thịthuy-chi-pretty-beautiful-gif-17905949

[pastel field]

Cats pls DX

[burnt coyote]

https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/1819656118563389484/photo/1 3060 ti for 720p LUL

[coarse nimbus]

how many of you idiots are there

[steady laurel]

Hopefully enough to get the signatures.

Remember playing Battlefield 2, Vietnam, 1942, bad company online mp?

More recently november of this year iirc BF3 and 4 will be shut down for console. Who knows when for pc? BF4 has 1500 daily players as opposed to the "grand success" of BF2042 which has 10 000. How long until they shut that down and you can't even play that at all?

[coarse nimbus]

well im not an idiot and dont expect online games to be indefinitely kept on life support for a miniscule amount of people

[steady laurel]

That's not what the petition is claiming mate. It just doesn't sue ppl who run private servers or allow planned obsolescence. Please watch the video if I may ask such a bold thing of you.

https://youtu.be/mkMe9MxxZiI?si=yOQueYEndRM455Fq

[willow schooner]

Not the place for this TBH

Petitions and such are specifically not allowed in this servers rules

[steady laurel]

Remember Battlefield 1942? That game stayed popular for a long time due to its community making mods like Forgotten Hope, DC, DCF, DCX. The latter 3 who's mods helped make BF2.

Anyone who's had solace from a game that is now unplayable after they paid for it should care about this.

Okay, so why is that? In this case it protects consumer rights.

[willow schooner]

Doesnt matter, this server isnt a democracy

Follow the rules

[steady laurel]

I've said my piece. If you care about gaming and you obviously do or you wouldn't be here I assume at least look at the video.

Have a nice night and ty for at least reading this oh you fuhrer of this realm 😉👍

[toxic wigeon]

@steady laurel This is not the channel let alone discord for such things. Hell. Zero fucking need to compare someone trying to inform you to fucking Hitler. I don't care that's not what you directly said. You meant it.

[steady laurel]

I was referring to him saying this isn't a democracy, implying it's a dictatorship. Supreme leaders of all ilk get a bit touchy when confronted with their own words in a joking manner, but do take it as an insult if you must. Wasn't intended that way, but you do you.

[midnight crypt]

High road moment

[burnt coyote]

wrong think

[lost cargo]

I got this couple days ago. Man it feels so good to have great internet again. My last WiFi adapter gave out, I felt it not doing good anymore. This new one is 3x better than my last one.

I also love Netgear products. Very reliable and amazing

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C8QTf7GLfs

[toxic wigeon]

Considering I'm looking at a 5090. Should I get a 1000 W PSU or some shit?

I mean ok I need a good psu but

Do I need something particularly more powerful than what's needed for 4090?

With an x800x3d.

[willow schooner]

No way to know. Nvidia could go insane and make 5090 actually pull 600W

[digital hill]

2000w if you can

and we all nvidia is just going to make it more power hungry

[willow schooner]

Realistically, and logically speaking...if they are sticking with the 12VHPWR connector, the max usage will remain 600W. So 1000W will probably be fine. If you are buying a new PSU tho...just shop around and see can you get a similarly priced/efficient 1200W or something if you really feel youll need it

[coarse nimbus]

oh im gunna kill newegg... cunts had the 9th as the delivery date... now i look again today and its the 12th

[pale quartz]

answer: no, 1000 watts is fine, they'd never do more than 1 12VHP connector on one card, there is a slight caveat here in that higher wattage is more efficient at higher loads, but it's not a total critical thing

what will matter is the ATX standard you are getting, that is what matters, not the wattage

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-preparing-navi-33-based-radeon-rx-7400-and-rx-7300-graphics-card

just cut-down RX 7600

[coarse nimbus]

is that good or bad?

[lost cargo]

AMD version of Rtx 50/60

[terse glade]

[molten flame]

https://www.neowin.net/news/nvidia-drivers-confirmed-to-cause-bsod-on-windows-pcs-without-certain-cpu-instructions/

old CPUs

[lost cargo]

skill issue for dem old cpus

[quick locust]

Darn, goodbye c2d build with 4090

[pastel field]

Edifier audio peripherals better than Creative ?

[toxic wigeon]

Pat gelsinger fucking let loose scripture in midst of the stock crash.

Holy shit.

[quick locust]

He often does

[burnt coyote]

I hope there is not a recesson enough people are already struggling

[pastel field]

Exponentially better than Creative Pebble V3?

at like $270

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/samsungs-new-fingernail-thin-lpddr5x-12-16gb-memory-enters-mass-production

this is HUGE for mobile devices

how would you solder a chip that thin, only 0.65mm

has to be very delicate

[willow schooner]

As long as the contact pads are of a standard, balling should be pretty easy

[brave sundial]

The LPDDR5X memory is gradually replacing SODIMM DDR5 in laptop designs and is used in many of the fastest smartphones on the market.

I thought CAMM2 was mostly replacing SODIMM

[pale quartz]

camm2 will be replacing DDR in standard boards rather than sodimm

[tawny mauve]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-app-beta-update-rtx-vsr-hdr-controls-and-more/

[molten flame]

I hope RTX video super resolution can take low quality music videos and concerts from the 80s and improve not only video but also audio

[coarse nimbus]

Metallica 89 Seattle concert ai enhanced when?

[molten flame]

nah more like the rare metallica 1982/early 83 live videos when they still had mustaine

[lost cargo]

They are slowly integrating Nvidia’s control panel app thingy. Into it. So it’s all in one

[storm osprey]

and it has dropped another 33% since this comment xD

[quick locust]

[tawny mauve]

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-electronics-begins-mass-production-of-industrys-thinnest-lpddr5x-dram-packages-for-on-device-ai

source

[turbid verge]

thanks

[tawny mauve]

it was inside that link

[worn notch]

I have a problem with steam or ea, it keeps throwing me the same thing Validation, does anyone know what to do?\

[lost cargo]

This is why I don’t play games from ubi or ea on Steam

[worn notch]

i need help bro

[lost cargo]

I don’t use steam for Ubi or ea games.

Can’t help ya

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rttc_ioflGo

best thing about R7 9700X: it draws very little power, comparable to the R5 7600

problem: it's about 5% slower than 7800X3D on gaming average

[brave sundial]

Non x3d, real cpus to wait for are next year

I think.. does X3D usually get announced next year?

[molten flame]

9800X3D could be out as early as October iirc

[brave sundial]

[molten flame]

but likely not, it would deter the sales of the non-X3D parts

[brave sundial]

true

[molten flame]

also some stability issues on 9000 series, mostly to do with memory

9600X in that review is basically a brick

[molten flame]

https://x.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1821172271249072255

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed) on X

Zen 5 sucks

https://t.co/1MKNHWdZPw

Twitter · Aug 7, 2024, 1:11 PM

[brave sundial]

it's Lisover

[molten flame]

not that bad considering the 7700X was slower than the 5800X3D

seems like previous generation X3D will always beat new generation without 3D

[pale quartz]

zen 5 non x3d is memory starved

it's like this because it's the same iod

[molten flame]

memory deprived but has memory stability problems

[pale quartz]

was always going to be ass relatively

agesa troubles not inherit to the processor specifically

[molten flame]

Zen 5 will have to rely on 3D cache to make up for the bandwidth

It would be a shame if they carry the same IOD over to Zen 6 as well lol

[tawny mauve]

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/24q1_sonypre.pdf

[modern gull]

Intel

https://tenor.com/view/market-simpsons-poor-stonks-notsure500-gif-16072046

[molten flame]

doubt they will come down as low as AMD did in 2013

AMD relied on donations to stay alive lol

[pale quartz]

it will never get that low

Intel's future prospects rn are just bleak

[modern gull]

Never say never I wouldn't be suprised at least

[pale quartz]

no it won't

[molten flame]

AMD is only alive because Ferrari donated $5 million also the PS4 coming out in late 2013

[pale quartz]

that is a very different situation to another

Intel's stock is heavily diluted that's why it's this low

[modern gull]

I say customer negligence, lack of transparency is big part of why it's lowering. Biggest drop happened after intel announced layofs which i am sure investors also take as big losses for intel so they need to compensate with layofs

After recent events i would pull every single cent out of that company if i was invested for sure

[molten flame]

Intel hired way too many people during 2020/2021 pandemic to begin with

[pale quartz]

the drop has nothing to do with transparency it's just their financials

investors don't care about customer service

they made a $1.6b loss on IFS and they are not revenue neutral which is why those stuff happened, anything involving consumer chips is not related or correlated to this

Intel's stock holders are institutional investors like pension funds so this sort of news has a outsized effect in terms of price distortions

[molten flame]

you think Arc GPUs have an impact on their revenue?

[pale quartz]

yes in the negative lol

they're loss making on arc

expect battlemage to launch then intel discrete cards to cease entirely for the consumer market

[molten flame]

really hard market to enter, surprised Radeon has been alive this long

[pale quartz]

they're not, they're alive because they have artificially high prices

even in their last revenue results Radeon got hammered

[molten flame]

[pale quartz]

it's a market Nvidia has and that's about it, AMD are nowhere close

with these layoffs AXG is finished in terms of consumer client cards

[brave sundial]

[turbid verge]

Iam pretty sure AMD has a bigger supply market than nvidia

dont they supply a shit ton of car manufacturers?

[pale quartz]

amd are a fabless company they don't manufacture anything

[turbid verge]

I guess

but they supply the chips

[pale quartz]

they supply chips but they are nowhere close to Nvidia in terms of capacity, supply, revenue or profits

the GPU market is theirs and theirs alone

[turbid verge]

in context yes

Think AMD is fine where it is

[pale quartz]

the only market amd has for GPUs is consoles, but anywhere else it's not close

[turbid verge]

going against Nvidia would be a suicide for them

rather not touch on what it works and just keep profit margins

[molten flame]

Radeon relies on consoles and cheap laptops with integrated graphics

[pale quartz]

they can't compete against them, because their hardware isn't particularly close and their software stack is a decade behind if you're being nice

[turbid verge]

"AMD's data center customers include Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud, Oracle, IBM and Microsoft Azure" - 2022

[pale quartz]

yeah DC is CPUs/GPUs combined

[turbid verge]

I would rather agree that Intel is a bigger direct competitor of AMD than Nvidia

[pale quartz]

NV don't have processors they have a unified platform like Blackwell

[turbid verge]

Nvidia were always on their own league

[molten flame]

AMD Epyc CPUs are doing really well; in fact even Nvidia uses them

[pale quartz]

they have grace but it doesn't matter

as soon as Nvidia enter the consumer processor market all bets are off

[molten flame]

meh they won't do much for the CPU market imo

[turbid verge]

As long they make money my dividends are healthy

[prime jasper]

amd is the new intel

[turbid verge]

thats all I care

[pale quartz]

they don't need to

Nvidia want to sell a unified platform, not a processor

that's their strategy for servers it will be it for consumer too

[molten flame]

yeah they sell their products in stations, not by individual processors

[turbid verge]

in other words. Nvidia are fine on their own. So is AMD on their own terms. The one in the worst position inbetween is Intel with their shenanigans

[pale quartz]

ehhh

sort of kind of

discrete, yes, but that's a tiny market in all things

[turbid verge]

as long their profits are like 90%+ from enterprise and healthy Iam fine with that

nothing major will happen to any of them

[molten flame]

Intel will recover but could take at least 2 generations, Panther-Lake isn't good enough

[pale quartz]

no arrow lake is in october

so just a few months

[molten flame]

leaks show Arrow-Lake is marginally faster than 14th gen, single-digit gains

[pale quartz]

they don't mean anything, just ignore them

[turbid verge]

pretty much

no one upgrades their shit from a year to another

at best 2-3 minimum difference

[pale quartz]

well, they do, just users like me who fit that classification are a tiny minority

[turbid verge]

pretty much

no one is a very small margin in the pie here

[molten flame]

once 9800X3D is out, Intel may have to wait until 10800X3D launches to have a competitor

[pale quartz]

zen 6 is 11th gen

10th is zen 5 for laptops

[molten flame]

rip

[turbid verge]

meanwhile me looking at what apple is cooking with the M4

[molten flame]

someone in war thunder discord tried to tell me Apple silicon is better than anything X86

[turbid verge]

they're

but not for gaming

atm for a cpu in a laptop that wont break your back. That shit is solid for working

[pale quartz]

is a stupid thing to say

the ISA is totally irrelevant

just morons who don't know what they're talking about

[molten flame]

he told me Nvidia server GPUs don't even touch Apple M1 Ultra in machine learning

[turbid verge]

I mean its the war thunder discord

what do you expect

[turbid verge]

graduated in engineer of yapping

[molten flame]

well he did state it's all NUMA related

so yeah, Apple may compete with Nvidia in NUMA related stuff, but no one cares about any of that

[coarse nimbus]

I saw a short last night of a comp science college kid who put together his own PC and it needed to be fixed

No cooler "didn't know I needed one" and the thermal paste was put in the socket

[molten flame]

I ran a Fx-8320E without thermal paste once, just direct cooler contact

it didn't throttle

[coarse nimbus]

By mistake or were you just being a spicy boi

[molten flame]

Fx CPUs got a lot of hate for power draw and poor performance but they were really good at transfering heat

8320E never touched 50C and a 8350 I also had would peak at 62C when overclocked

[coarse nimbus]

"all our CPUs get a good lapping before leaving the factory"

[molten flame]

Zen 5 is a server and datacenter focused core, just look at the Phoronix review. Under Linux, with lots of AVX-512 workloads, the performance and efficiency are outstanding.

[quick locust]

Both zen 5 and ARL will be big upgrades for me

[molten flame]

5800X3D to 9800X3D for me

[coarse nimbus]

What's that cpu supposed to cost

[quick locust]

not yet announced for zen 5 x3d

[coarse nimbus]

sounds expensive

[lost cargo]

They need to make Zen 5x4d

New gen

[storm osprey]

Well 9700x is a dud, missed opportunity with the whole intel fiasco

[molten flame]

65W CPU

might as well be named 9700 not 9700X

[lost cargo]

9700x will be 70W

X for Xtra

[molten flame]

maybe 9700X can be cooled with Wraith stealth

even though they didn't include cooler

[lost cargo]

That will be to much work and money

[brave sundial]

9700AI when

[lost cargo]

Which card had AI technology in it but never used AI tech in it

From AMD

[pale quartz]

all of the RDNA3 series

[storm osprey]

as tech jesus said, the biggest pros for the 9700x are efficiency and its not intel

[brave sundial]

Yeah going from like 108 to that is insane

[lost cargo]

Oof

Hopefully RDNA4 and 5 use the AI tech

[pale quartz]

wont happen lol

the term "hopefully" is where it ends with RDNA cards

[lost cargo]

Impossible challenge. Making GPU with AI tech but the AI tech servers no purpose

AMD: it’s a very hard challenge
Nvidia: did it long time ago, and still use it

[toxic wigeon]

9700x feels like a refresh to be honest.

Or just a 9700 yeah

[molten flame]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Conversations-around-ARM-vs-x86-power-are-false-Intel-s-Robert-Hallock-on-Lunar-Lake-s-strategy-and-how-it-is-well-poised-to-challenge-ARM-s-efficiency-narrative.867249.0.html

by removing SMT (hyperthreading,) new P-cores provide 15% more performance per watt, 10% more performance per die area, and 30% more performance per power/area.

[pale quartz]

as I've said for over a year now

isn't anything new

[molten flame]

Lunar Lake’s package power consumption is generally reduced by 40% compared to Meteor Lake

👀

ARM destroyer in the works

[toxic wigeon]

Ohh

[pale quartz]

nothing burger

"arm x86 killer" etc

[molten flame]

RISC-V is still the future

ngl I think it would take at least 2 decades for x86 to be fully replaced especially in gaming systems

[burnt coyote]

https://www.securityweek.com/safebreach-sounds-alarm-on-windows-update-flaws-allowing-undetectable-downgrade-attacks/

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-says-raptor-lake-microcode-update-will-not-affect-overclocking-and-performance-new-arrow-lake-battlemage-updates

[prime jasper]

9600x is literally same as 7600x

well done amd lol

[coarse nimbus]

Cash grab?

[brave sundial]

Much more efficient though

[midnight crypt]

aint it like half the power?

[prime jasper]

Same power in power use

(gaming etc)

Amd lied

[midnight crypt]

im not seeing those numbers?

am i missing something

[prime jasper]

probably

where are you looking them

zen 5 in general isn't nearly as efficient as it was told to be

[midnight crypt]

took awhile to find gaming power usage

most just list productivity

but yeah they seem to be very similar when gaming

[prime jasper]

yeah it looks like amd just limited something power related on the zen 5 so it compares to previous gen

haven't really looked too deep on this but i think some reviewer has figured it out

it's just uninteresting product line i think i won't look any further on it

[willow schooner]

They are more efficient as they get similar performance to last gen, but at lower power/temps, or same power/lower temps and slightly better performance.

It's only "meh", because performance wise it's nothing special gen on gen

[prime jasper]

9600x used actually more power in some games than 7600x

But with same performance

So

[willow schooner]

Source?

Not saying that in an "I dont believe you" way. I've just not seen many reviews on the chip

[prime jasper]

i think hardware unboxed dont really remember but all of the reviews of 9600x confirms it really

some games its lower power but its really marginal

[pale quartz]

it's not more it's strictly less, the processor is just built for efficiency, if you want to unlock it's power limit just switch on pbo

zen 5 architecture changes don't particularly favour games, but it's not a regression over zen 4

[prime jasper]

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-9600x/images/power-games-compare-vs-7600.png this is against non x 7600 cant really find one with the x one

[pale quartz]

yes the 7600 has a 65w tdp lol it's not comparable

[prime jasper]

thought so, techpowerup being weird again

and first in my google search results when googling 9600x review

https://www.igorslab.de/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/14-FHD-Watts.png average power consumption at 1080p

not much more

its in gaming

but like if im looking cpu for gaming i look 7800x3d right now

[pale quartz]

well yeah, exactly the same situation as last generation

shouldn't be surprising

[molten coral]

any headphone recommendations around 200-250 euro?

no gaming headphones

[prime jasper]

Wired or wireless? For home or outside usage?

[brave sundial]

Will always shill for the Sony's WF

[molten coral]

Wired, for home usage, they will be connected to a Shiit Stack. (Magni and Modus)

[prime jasper]

for 200-250€ i would recommend Sennheiser HD-400 Pro or if you're willing to spend 270€ then AKG K-712 Pro

In the end it's what kind of sound you prefer so i would recommend to look the reviews to get an idea of what kind of frequency response they will be giving

Best would be if you have a store near where you can go listen the headphones

[molten coral]

I should have given an example, I currently use the Beyerdynamic DT990 250 ohm, I love the sound of them but I'm currently on my second pair so I'm a bit hesitant to buy them again.

[prime jasper]

i don't have experience with those

[molten coral]

ok fuck it buying the better version of the dt990's