i like the built-in heatsink
#technology
pale quartz
optanes are best in class but they are discontinued technology
just stick with regular drives
molten flame
security risks?
Heard Battlemage might not compete with Navi 48/44, Intel might have to sell next gen at lower price than they want to
quick locust
security risks?
Nah but they aren't made anymore and have begun lagging quite a bit behind other than for specific random workloads
ivory creek
i just read that a hacker got into AMD and Apple and are selling their internal documents online
pale quartz
can a gen 4 keep up with 10gb/sec fiber if i were to get that? hmm
yes, but processing 10gb/s is a different equation itself
there is no drive that can't "keep up", NICs synchronise their downlink rate to maintain alignment with on demand bandwidth even if it's full, you're going to have trouble being able to actually achieve sustained 10gb/s without jumbo packets and a external network card
ivory creek
oh
i was planning to pressure my landlord to get the fibrenet from the isp that delivers 10gb/sec here
pale quartz
you have a 5800x3d so it's not the greatest idea
molten flame
pale quartz
that type of bandwidth will cause massive load on core utilisation when downloads are being processed, you'll also need to get cat 7/8 wiring and a board that can process 10gb/s, almost no consumer boards do
ivory creek
aight
molten flame
Low clocks on 3D processor not good for fast network stuff
pale quartz
decent chance it maxes out the processor entirely
pale quartz
Low clocks on 3D processor not good for fast network stuff
no
it has nothing to do with it
it's to do with RSS queues
pale quartz
downloads on bandwidth are equalised over core load to prevent a single core throttling when on seek with parallel execution, you don't need TR, but a 16 core is more or less mandatory with 10gb/s
that or higher, regular person assuming 16, a actual user doing anything else demanding, then threadripper is advised
molten flame
I've only experienced 1 gb/s internet
Home Internet currently peaks at 50 mb/s
High traffic days about 30 mb/s
brave sundial
yeah but let me believe
pale quartz
I've only experienced 1 gb/s internet
with bandwidth the problem is core assignments scale linearly
so 1gbps with RSS queues requires, literally, 10x the resources to achieve that sustained utilisation, if you don't have available cores or they're being used for something else then your sustained downlink will tank to avoid deadlocking the processor, (freezing with I/O queues), not to mention if it's not a PCIe gen 5 drive, and it's being used in the same game with anything R/W intensive like directstorage then you have a situation where you have no headroom left
there are very few NICs which can actually sustain 10gbps without encountering thermal throttling, most of them are aquantia based, cheap ones are prone to shutting down/massively throttling
molten flame
I might get more than 8 cores but don't like separate CCDs on Ryzen
But I think their IOD is more of an issue than CCD communication
pale quartz
ccd communication hasn't been a problem since zen 2
molten flame
AMD did no R&D toward IOD improvements with Zen 5 sadly
pale quartz
it's only a "problem" on the 7900x3d because it's 6 instead of 8 like the 7800x3d so it actually performs worse, but that and lower are only one ccd
molten flame
Imo 7900X and the 3D variant should be 8 cores on main chip and 6 cores on other
molten flame
They wouldn't be able to make that work?
pale quartz
7900 stack is 12 cores, if you have an imbalance of cores across ccds then this causes problems with cppc scheduling which is why they are always equalised against each other 1:1 (ccds being either always divisible by each other in terms of how many cores they contain), because the scheduler has to pre seek where its thread allocations are if they are not equalised then there will be situations where cross traversal is necessary, and that's a worse problem, than having less cores on a single ccd
molten flame
Maybe 7900/9900X should be 16 cores just like 7950/9950X but with 100-200 MHz lower clocks
pale quartz
no, it doesn't make any sense
they are segregated for a reason, because that's what people know the sku numbers for relative to what they're buying, turning it into a 7950 and giving it lower clocks defeats the point of ever having to buy the 7950
molten flame
6+6 cores makes it too unattractive to gamers, pretty much turning the 7900X into a 7600X with 2% higher boost
pale quartz
yeah but they don't really care lol
it's better for them
because you buy the 7950x3d instead
molten flame
The x900 segment barely sells in comparison to x950 and x700/x800
molten flame
pale quartz
AMD/intel do not want you buying cheaper parts they want you to buy the most expensive option relative to what you think you "require", because they make more money
it doesn't cost AMD anything to have the 900 series in production anyways, it's always pure profit regardless
molten flame
Is Zen 5 CCD still 5nm or 4nm
pale quartz
granite ridge is 4nm
molten flame
9800X3D gonna be a hit
Will sell 5800X3D including motherboard and 32GB ram for $300 altogether
ivory creek
ive never sold anything lol
only given away for free
i dont wanna sell someone something if i cant tell if it will last for long
toxic wigeon
10 core on a single ccd will be yummy.
toxic wigeon
Will sell 5800X3D including motherboard and 32GB ram for $300 altogether
I may just do that too.
molten flame
where are the 16-core Zen 5c CCDs? 
toxic wigeon
Haha
molten flame
Intel needs to bring back a 10 P-core CPU
ivory creek
intel need to step up their game. i wanna buy a cpu which i can clock again
ivory creek
i mean amd x3d cpus can be clocked
and they are preferable
can not*
the excitement of silicon lottery and see who can clock the highest was exciting
toxic wigeon
I wish Intel did something interesting to be honest.
molten flame
nah more E cores
toxic wigeon
Haha
ivory creek
what if nvidia enter the cpu market for consumer desktops with some crazy ai tech all of a sudden
molten flame
CCD is Core Complex Die which is the main chiplets that hold cores and cache
pale quartz
the excitement of silicon lottery and see who can clock the highest was exciting
it's boring af lol
toxic wigeon
Maybe it's not for you.
pale quartz
people looking for a ego trip for meaningless numbers which causes system instability
overclocking really needs to be stripped from consumer boards entirely
how we get board vendors setting unlimited power limits by default and degrading processors
toxic wigeon
If people want to push for a funny number then what's the problem?
I can agree that it is a waste of resources.
pale quartz
the problem is it inevitability leads to the situation now with 14th gen where board vendors are demanded by consumers to have "OC tools" that they see on vapid leaderboards then they begin going out of factory specifications
ivory creek
i think i got my intel i5 3570k to a stable 4.6ghz where most only got to 4.4 or 4.5
that was fun
pale quartz
and then before you know it tens of thousands of users unknowingly have a dying chip
we just had a guy coming in here yesterday saying 2042 was crashing on his system and thinking it was the game
molten flame
people think their systems are 100% stable after manually overclocking and memory tweaking
pale quartz
no they just don't know what 'stability' is
as soon as you are outside of factory specifications you are in instability territory
that includes XMP
processor overclocking is just infinitely worse because the systemic issues don't present themselves like not booting a system
ivory creek
i never had a single crash on that intel , i ran several hours of aida
toxic wigeon
Oh that reminds me I need to turn on XMP again.
pale quartz
all this I've set -20 pbo bs with the 5800x3d etc
toxic wigeon
See if the issues come back.
pale quartz
i never had a single crash on that intel , i ran several hours of aida
yeah because that was 15 years ago lol
molten flame
running 14900K with boost disabled and DDR5-4800 would ensure stability for 20 years
pale quartz
chips today are much more sensitive to voltage changes
because they are already at maximum clocks out of the box
AMD and intel have both pulled the "boost it a few hundred MHz" card that you used to do in coffee lake days, it's just harmful to users now and why it needs to be removed
molten flame
Zen 5 looks to tone down a lot on those aggressive boosts
pale quartz
they're not (too) different, zen 5 is just more efficient
toxic wigeon
I wonder how gen 16 will go.
Man can intel just stop releasing a new processor each week.
Not week
Year
LOL
pale quartz
compared to 15th anyways
toxic wigeon
Gen 16 I hope innovates better than more power = better clocks.
pale quartz
LL incorporates some nova lake changes it's not a draw 50 watts for meagre clocks situation
it will be competitive with zen 5
toxic wigeon
Do you think intel will ever do their own 3d CPUs?
toxic wigeon
They just need to run "cool"
pale quartz
stacking cache is a fundamental different approach in processor design due to the infinity fabric intel use tiles
toxic wigeon
Different build yeah.
pale quartz
different methodologies, if they launched a exact "x3d" intel chip tomorrow it would lose heavily
they don't even use tsvs
molten flame
Lunar-Lake is big gain in SoC efficiency, more impressive than Meteor-Lake, should actually be competitive with Zen 5 laptops and maybe Strix Point in iGPU performance
molten flame
ultra-thin laptops will get interesting
pale quartz
it's a tile processor, so it won't be smaller
toxic wigeon
I just hate the fact that there's a new mobo every two gens.
pale quartz
the main difference with lunar lake is hyperthreading is gone
which removes a lot of inefficiency problems that intel has from the base
toxic wigeon
Is it irrelevant? What will be replacing it?
pale quartz
nothing
there's no hyperthreading replacement, it's just removed
e cores are used in their place
molten flame
there will be a Windows 11 update optimized for it
pale quartz
I had said that hyperthreading was being removed at the start of 2023 because it's as a technology losing its relevance with the goals of processor architecture design nowadays
Ryzen will get rid of it in the future aswell
toxic wigeon
Essentially we've moved past it.
pale quartz
We've not moved past it
it's just prone to massive exploitation attacks and has problems with large core count processors
toxic wigeon
I wonder though if say something utilises hyperthreading if it could technically be used.
pale quartz
HT is a log n penalty on the processor for seek times and because intel use the TD it's not useful to keep around anymore, just a hindrance
virtualization always has penalties over physical cores
toxic wigeon
It's not something that you can outright disable no.
toxic wigeon
How much does it "help"
pale quartz
well you double your thread count lol so a 16 core becomes 32 individual threads
1 thread is always per core
hyperthreading virtualises a core into 2 threads, or 4 in enterprise environments
toxic wigeon
Well I meant is how much does the performance change.
pale quartz
not a answerable question, it depends on if the task is multithreaded
if it has multithreading then it scales linearly with the increase, or roughly about
molten flame
I remember when you told me SMT/hyperthreading is just a virtual thing and not actually part of the chip, I wonder how binning prevents SMT from working on some chips
pale quartz
yeah
people confuse hyperthreading with actual cores, they're not the same thing, is why hypervisors are used, core binning on defunct chips causes it to break because those individual threads are still dependent on the individual core bins themselves, so if it has a clock target too high and it's not a high enough bin it will crash
(a processor doesn't have one bin, each core has its own inside, they're averaged and weighted out)
molten flame
I’ve always been skeptical of buying cut-down silicon but here I am with RX 6600
pale quartz
I mean you're always buying it really if you're not buying the top SKU processor that's available
lower SKU products are just products which don't meet the certifications for (xyz tier), a 7800x3d etc is just a chip which fail(ed) to meet the 7950x3d requirements so it's cut down and renamed
cost of scale manufacturing is why that's done
molten flame
I wanted to buy a 4070 but the fact that it has over 30% of the cores disabled on the AD104 die, makes it sound like trash
That’s massively cut-down lol
pale quartz
I wanted to buy a 4070 but the fact that it has over 30% of the cores disabled o...
nah
it can run more enabled
but it's not about what can be, it's about what can be cutdown enough to have a large performance difference between different tiers of stack relative to enticing a user to buy the higher product
molten flame
Yeah 4070 is just 4070Ti chips that barely didn’t meet the requirements so they disable it to meet the next tier down
These prices are still unjustifiable 
4060Ti 16GB still nearly $500
Some models are over that
pale quartz
they sell, so no need to lower prices
not like Nvidia have any competition in the GPU discrete market
maybe intel in a few years for the budget segment
tawny mauve
brave sundial
Very nice 
candid flame
what's the point lol
tawny mauve
Free open source
pale quartz
shit laptop that's released way too early because Microsoft got scared it's going to be a failure
brave sundial
"not Samsung's fault, it's the user"
Hope the rumours of them going with TSMC next year are true
molten flame
skill issued
gray coyote
is there a tech support channel?
nocturne drift
molten coral
is there a tech support channel?
no
gray coyote
where can i get tech suppport then
i tried the offical ea tech supoort but they didnt help
molten coral
Try Answer HQ
It's either EA support or answer HQ, we don't have a tech support channel on this discord.
gray coyote
hq?
molten coral
gray coyote
doenst seem to work
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patent sentinel
hello
storm osprey
Suh
faint umbra
I wanted to buy a 4070 but the fact that it has over 30% of the cores disabled o...
I have a 4070 and the performance is great
pale quartz
I have a 4070 and the performance is great
it's not about performance
toxic wigeon
Jesus christ
coarse nimbus
now show us Nvidia sales in Russia <:CursedCat:869694866752405554>
hey if nvidia supplies them with GPUs that have the same shitty fans that i have, that make a clicking noise constantly...the war would end real fast 
storm osprey
welp, just got a steam deck for 100 bucks
brave sundial
What condition was it in 
storm osprey
From a homie, he got an oled and now the lcd just sits there
brave sundial
damn, steal
molten flame
OLED best
storm osprey
I would love an oled but I’m not paying oled prices
molten flame
OLED is a must if you ever get a Switch
lofty light
I recently got an OLED switch, it’s damn fine looking
Although I’m not 100% sold on the oled deck, there was some chatter that it’s missing some major frame rate tech that makes it a bit dodge
molten flame
there are other handhelds with a much better CPU and GPU
Deck only 4 cores and it's Zen 2
lofty light
That’s true but if it’s enough perf for what you’re playing the battery life and controls are better imo
I use the trackpad on my deck enough that I’d hate to live without it
storm osprey
OLED is a must if you ever get a Switch
Already have a switch, got it near launch and hardly use handheld mode too
molten flame
mystic flax
So I got the black shark v2 pro but I have a issue where plugging in the mic makes the PC think the headset is turned off
And I can't find a way to fix it
Internet is no help at all
mystic flax
So I fixed that issue but
The mic ain't micing
Oh it's micing but way to low
I'ma adjust some settings
storm osprey
Is there a dial on the headset that adjusts the voice vs game sound?
pale quartz
Although I’m not 100% sold on the oled deck, there was some chatter that it’s mi...
that's just the switch itself
it's not powerful enough to sustain a target framerate 99% of the time for most games so frametimes go a mess, unavoidable for terrible hardware, and why the switch 2 is barely a year away
even the switch 2 is going to be severely underpowered at launch relative to other handhelds oh well
pale quartz
Why is root drive C
the reason is due to floppy drives, it starting at c instead of a/b meant you were able add more, today it's just used as the default for convention reasons, but it's redundant otherwise
pale quartz
Oh it's micing but way to low
make sure your input volume inside windows is set correctly as it's separate to ingame (not tied)
lofty light
that's just the switch itself
Was talking about the deck there
toxic wigeon
Holy
molten flame
Twitter
toxic wigeon
Wow
turbid verge
I guess lol
turbid verge
I mean the next thing they're showing think its gonna be the next RTX GPU's
idk about their quarter profits
but Iam gonna guess they've been very positive
pale quartz
I mean the next thing they're showing think its gonna be the next RTX GPU's
client GPUs no longer matter for NV financials
they make up 8% of their revenues, everything is HPC
Blackwell announcement will make no difference to where it is
they aren't announcing it just now because they get more money just redirecting supply to it instead
brave sundial
From the rumours it seems like only the 90 sku will offer anything substantial.
turbid verge
client GPUs no longer matter for NV financials
they'll make them because they have a huge division for it and straight up moving it or erasing it could be an issue on the long term
pale quartz
they'll make them because they have a huge division for it and straight up movin...
yeah ofc they'd still make it because it's free money
but they don't care for geforce anymore outside of that
turbid verge
not about not caring
there's always a market for it, plus a lot of the consumer sold cards are mostly the gaming ones
simple as the render farm we have here has like what
100 GPU's
and they're consumer grade ones
pale quartz
geforce have had budget constraints internally so resources are diverted elsewhere, they're not the same company that enthusiasts think they are, and they've not been for a few years now
they only exist in discrete because it's free money
turbid verge
still wont justify ending the division our of nowhere
pale quartz
but there's no commitment outside of that
pale quartz
still wont justify ending the division our of nowhere
nobody is saying geforce is going to get scrapped
but they aren't a consumer GPU company anymore
turbid verge
never a good idea to have one product out of a big company
brave sundial
They'll probably only offer any actual substantial upgrades to the very high end now for consumer. 50-80 will exist just to make the 90 look like much better value.
pale quartz
yes
turbid verge
plus Iam pretty sure most of the "resources" are work force for service purposes
pale quartz
that's how it's always been
brave sundial
And they'll still come out on top for doing that
pale quartz
they do not want a small gap between those skus
has been like that since Turing isn't anything new
turbid verge
They'll probably only offer any actual substantial upgrades to the very high end...
consumer grade GPU's at current point are fine where they are
they're following the market trends etc
pale quartz
NV don't follow trends, they make them
turbid verge
I understand why need more effort and work force on the whole enterprise bullshit
pale quartz
they single handedly were the reason CUDA exists in such a single uniform fashion and why consumer cards adopted RT back then
turbid verge
NV don't follow trends, they make them
I mean. If you think NV makes the trends good luck. Because Computer Vision and Rendering pipelines even for games are like a decade ahead of the physical hardware on the consumer side
turbid verge
I know but the physicaç hardware for consumer can't keep up
pale quartz
they've done extensive work on multiple engines and have for eons nevermind OCI
turbid verge
they've been always behind since the late 90's
brave sundial
that's how it's always been
It felt very evident with lovelace recently though
pale quartz
there is no other equivalent to it
turbid verge
I mean, if you wanna look into some thesis about pipelines and even image rendering they're decades ahead
pale quartz
It felt very evident with lovelace recently though
take a rewind through time 2080/2080ti gap was around 1.7x MSRP and a 30% performance difference
turbid verge
I mean my brother literally made a thesis about it 
turbid verge
pretty much current cpu's and gpu's barely can process the algorithms with choking
pale quartz
well yeah ofc but it doesn't change anything
they are the reason they (are at all) in the standard they are for the consumer platform
turbid verge
Iam already talking outside of the consumer grade even
brave sundial
Intel will save us, just need to wait another half decade 
pale quartz
as soon as you step outside consumer territory nothing else matters
turbid verge
I mean my touch on game engines is enough to know Current GPU's are trash for what they can do
pale quartz
research and HPC is always lightyears ahead of consumer
quick locust
Its where all the money is
turbid verge
I kinda got into the research field. Which is different from games. But hum yeh, if you wanna say NV makes trends good luck, they still make good features and services. But they arent even near of some of the insane programming and tools there are within game/render engines
pale quartz
they made cuda as already said, research for GPUs doesn't use anything else, oneAPI is dead and nobody cares about external stacks, so even if you're being kind at a minimum they are the reason there's a unified platform that researchers can use for GPU development at all
turbid verge
thats why in most ocassions like cut scenes in gaming are always pre rendered. GPU's got no power to live process it
pale quartz
if it didn't exist there would not be the advances there have been into GPU development in the state that it is today
and that is a fact
turbid verge
yes, but doesnt enter the bubble where Nvidia makes trends at all lol
turbid verge
they rather work with developers and even engine developing teams to create the sweet spot for the game or engine
if oyu wanna sell a product you need to make sure it works
pale quartz
they literally are the sole reason universities even adopted CUDA lol
they spent tens of millions on education grants to deploy it to institutions globally and that program is still ongoing
idk why you're saying this isn't happening when it is
pale quartz
?
quick locust
Time to bust monopolies
quick locust
turbid verge
Its nothing new, giants corps fund universities in exchange teach their libraries, coding languages and whatever dafuq services they use
quick locust
Sell GeForce to Meta, they know how to lose money
pale quartz
yeah but how does that not make them a trend setter lol
if they're the ones doing it, they are
turbid verge
Sell GeForce to Meta, they know how to lose money
I mean think apple and meta had talks about some partnership related to AI or something
would be funny
turbid verge
I mean apple refused, nothing new
pale quartz
going to happen sooner than later lol
quick locust
brave sundial
I mean think apple and meta had talks about some partnership related to AI or so...
Why did apple even need to pay to enter an agreement when they could've just trained and refined their own model based on Meta's open-sourced llama for free? Are they stupid?
pale quartz
Subscription to use the hardware at all
turbid verge
Why did apple even need to pay to enter an agreement when they could've just tra...
apple love their IP
pale quartz
Why did apple even need to pay to enter an agreement when they could've just tra...
they can't
the license forbids it
turbid verge
you see they use the word AI but called it Apple Intelligence or something
pale quartz
llama can't be used by organisations which have over X amount of turnover per year
quick locust
https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce-now/ ahem
Need to apply to already sold hardware
Higher subscription cost the older the gpu is
pale quartz
would be funny if llama wasn't ass compared to something like Omni but oh well
willow schooner
GPUs that HW ID to the CPU/board its first connected to. Time to kill the 2nd hand market 😛
pale quartz
Higher subscription cost the older the gpu is
you should work for them
quick locust
GPUs that HW ID to the CPU/board its first connected to. Time to kill the 2nd ha...
That too
brave sundial
Atleast OpenAI have some solid competition for image and video models.
pale quartz
we're going to enter a llm maturity winter soon anyways
brave sundial
what do you mean by maturity?
pale quartz
there's going to be a period of time where the exponential increase we've had from say gpt 3 to 4 slows to a crawl in terms of it's success rates at tasks relative to older models
turn of 2025 is when it'll begin, they can't scale forever because they're not great design wise, can actually regress
pale quartz
brave sundial
turn of 2025 is when it'll begin, they can't scale forever because they're not g...
Oh, interesting
storm osprey
steam deck gets here on thursday!
cloud solar
@pale quartz hey bud. I got a question. How can I reduce my CPU usage? Especially on BF2042. Seems 2042 uses the most CPU out of any shooter out rn. WZ, Xdefiant, The Finals, MWIII. Kinda blows my mind tbh.
pale quartz
<@162568099839606784> hey bud. I got a question. How can I reduce my CPU usage? ...
as I alluded to before close to nothing in a way which doesn't compromise your performance, you can cap the framerate in say half from where you are to drop utilisation but your hardware just isn't enough
you "can" use external programs like process lasso to stop the game using its own thread scaler but it's not ideal for your use case
willow schooner
Set resolution to 8K and max out your GPU 😛
Main question should be...why do you need to reduce your CPU usage?
cloud solar
Main question should be...why do you need to reduce your CPU usage?
Because I have an extremely budget setup. i5 10th gen with a gtx 1650ti. And when I play BF2042 cpu get up in the high 90s even 100. Queuing in, main menu and even solo it goes 70-80 totally. And that's with as much background off as possible.
willow schooner
Is that CPU usage causing you issues?
cloud solar
But I did get a lot more out of my gpu following @pale quartz advice. Was getting 50-60 in game lobbies. Now I'm getting 80-90%
willow schooner
And which CPU is it?
cloud solar
Is that CPU usage causing you issues?
Yeah Especially when it hit 100
cloud solar
i5 10300h
willow schooner
Oh, RIP hehe
cloud solar
Lol 😆
pale quartz
slash the framerate or upgrade the hardware are your only options really
cloud solar
slash the framerate or upgrade the hardware are your only options really
Yeah figured
willow schooner
You could try to find a cheap 10700 or something ands swap it out 😄
where in the world are you, your country
frigid condor
He said 10300h, meaning it's a mobile cpu
I hope ya'll know it's, lightly said, hard to swap a mobile cpu
Your only option is to sell your current laptop and buy a new one/pc
frigid condor
10300h is not a laptop cpu?
pale quartz
mobile CPU =/= platform, it can be used, in desktop, platforms
dry pike
Well, it's utilizes the FCBGA1440 package type which is a soldered design so from a practical standpoint, calling it a laptop/mobile CPU is kinda fair.
mystic flax
I ordered my ram and CPU cooler,
Ram is coming tomorrow 10 pm
CPU cooler is coming in 2 days
midnight crypt
Why though
molten flame
upgrading the CPU speed makes Half-life 2 actually playable lmao
mystic flax
After today and tomorrow all that's left is
Power supply (July)
Storage (July)
Additional fans (July)
GPU (August)
Monitor (September)
PC case (July)
I'm getting the ram today and the CPU cooler tomorrow. That's the context
prime jasper
Hello, can you help me with BF5??
storm osprey
storm osprey
Hello, can you help me with BF5??
wow way to ruin my gif.. what you need help with
prime jasper
I bought it on the BF 5 ea app and downloaded it, then I start the game, the game crashes and then stops all at once, what could be wrong then I restart the machine, it still starts and returns to the ea app ?? Thank you in advance for your help
storm osprey
cant really help with that other than verify files and possibly redownload
prime jasper
there were all those things
midnight crypt
upgrading the CPU speed makes Half-life 2 actually playable lmao
why would you play that on the OG xbox though
wet notch
candid flame
After today and tomorrow all that's left is
Power supply (July)
Storage (July)
...
I hope you have extended warranty on all of your parts
mystic flax
I hope you have extended warranty on all of your parts
Don't think so
Just gotta make sure I have a custom packaging for the PC when I move
candid flame
I thought about buying parts by parts but then I thought what if something broke but I couldn't test it while waiting for the other parts to arrive
mystic flax
That's why I keep it in the box
In a secure place
But with the increase in boxes especially the CPU cooler I may have to change to a different secure location
Got my ram
Everything that I currently have
coarse nimbus
THE FLOOR? the disrespect for those new parts smh
potent path
is there any way to lower my cpu temps on this game it sits at around 65-70 when i first get on then after a while it creeps up to 75-80 i have my settings turnt down and my goom looks like utter shit and my cpu still hits those temps and my gpu hits 70 degrees
pale quartz
is there any way to lower my cpu temps on this game it sits at around 65-70 when...
temperatures are perfectly normal
no problems here
coarse nimbus
is your CPU cooler like totally plugged up?
pale quartz
your hardware temperatures are within specification and to be expected, there is no issue here
potent path
is 75-80 not too hot for a ryzen 7?
pale quartz
no
potent path
i thought anything above 80 was bad
pale quartz
Ryzen will auto boost its clock core as high as it can achieve before 90 degrees to maximise single core boosts
it's by design and totally normal
as long as there is no delta which hits above 90 degrees consistently then there is no issue, that is when throttling begins
mystic flax
THE FLOOR? _the disrespect for those new parts smh_ <:SadHampter:121173367692539...
Well it's just to get them all there. I have a more secure place for them
willow schooner
My 7900x out of the box ran at 90c...its by design on a lot of CPUs
coarse nimbus
was it cosplaying as an intel cpu or something?
or was that the amd gen that just ran hot
willow schooner
Zen4 out of box design is meant to run this way...I didnt leave it that way, but its how AMD intended (It was a dumb idea)
coarse nimbus
why..would they make it like that though
almost seems like an engineer couldnt fix that, and marketing decided it was intended so people didnt get angry
willow schooner
No idea why they did it that way TBH. They were basically set to go to 95c, get the best clocks it can get up til that heat, then stay there at load...heat would be that almost regardless of cooler.
It was a major talking point when they released. People just realised that with PBO tuning, you could fix that issue in like...2 mins of tweaking
I think its 2 values in PBO with the curve optimizer
coarse nimbus
so....they could have baked that into it?
willow schooner
They instead decide to set the thermal limit...and forget about any other tweaking for OOB experience.
I had no real issue with it. CPU and BIOs changes are childsplay these days, even on the cheapest boards.
coarse nimbus
not to mention theres a youtube guide video for like every mobo you could have
pale quartz
pbo is already used at stock
it's done because not doing it is wasting thermal headroom, there is no penalty because it's a chiplet design structure
people just see a temperature number and don't understand it's not the entire processor
it's not a design problem, it's a way of getting more performance for no penalty
molten flame
Lunar-Lake could have lower per-core power consumption than Zen 5… they already have way more efficiency with I/O and idling
thin lintel
my game isn't loading from steam any help?
queen glen
Hi everyone Can someone help me pls / I keep having an issue In Battlefield 4 that my game randomly closes itself i tried everything but no matter what i try it keeps happening
mystic flax
I could get a chance to buy the remaining tech items except the GPU and monitor today which can put me in a better spot
Meaning I can get the GPU on July instead
candid flame
nice
willow schooner
it's not a design problem, it's a way of getting more performance for no penalty
Having a part in my case being at 95c constantly at load is a pretty shitty design
pale quartz
Having a part in my case being at 95c constantly at load is a pretty shitty desi...
it doesnt stay at 95 degrees
the number you are seeing is not the actual temperature of the processor, its a aggregate
each CCX is independent of each other for its own thermal regulation
storm osprey
what a strange box
molten coral
yeah that's some awful packaging
tawny mauve
I had a lenovo firmware update 1.15.0.0 but it cancelled itself after I tried redownloading another update
And now idk how to trigger it again
It was under a label called optional updates but that doesn't appear now
toxic wigeon
Also CPU cooler just came in
Was gonna say that's definitely a box.
I don't think it's bad but
It's certainly a funny one.
storm osprey
im sure its optimized for shipping, its just i didnt expect that
toxic wigeon
Le mini rectangular box.
molten flame
Intel's Battlemage GPUs look promising but nothing big enough for the high-end market
might be better than RDNA3 in IPC lmao
terse glade
Cant wait for proper mini gpus
brave sundial
You're not liking ultrawide?
terse glade
I never can go back from ultrawide wide
terse glade
What in the name of fuck
mystic flax
Was gonna say that's definitely a box.
There is a second box in that box
So it's more secure than it looks
Just got this ordered
I'm probably a moron tbh
But I made sure it was compatible
brave sundial
Just got this ordered
How much was that
mystic flax
How much was that <:haHAA:562440524741476381>
Well it was on sale 42% off so I paid 509 dollars plus 50 dollars tax
brave sundial
jesus
mystic flax
The original price is around 875 dollars
mystic flax
Lol
brave sundial
Crucial drives are great, you can trust them
You could've just bought gen4 and it would've been fine for most usage but I guess you really wanted to get the best of the best, can't blame you
mystic flax
Yeah storage was the bane of my existence on my old pc
Or the current one
1tb of HDD storage and 250mb of SSD storage
Now with this monster of a PC, I nearly quadruple that amount
pale quartz
But I made sure it was compatible
only on the first NVMe slot
x670 is not gen 5 through all of the I/O only the lane connected to the processor, x670e is required for that
molten flame
X670E is 2 chipsets together right?
pale quartz
yes
that's why it can achieve full PCIe bandwidth through all the slots (even chipset), including the main x16 GPU slot
you suffer in soc power consumption for such heavy bandwidth but, there you go
pale quartz
NVMe only
you are misreading what it says
x670 support PCIe gen 5 on the first NVMe slot connected to the processor
the others are connected to the chipset, they do not interface with the processor directly, they use gen 4
if you want full 5.0 bandwidth on all the slots you'll need a x670e board
mystic flax
So there are more slots but only one can support gen 5
So I'm not entirely screwed, I just won't be getting the full power of the ssd
pale quartz
So I'm not entirely screwed, I just won't be getting the full power of the ssd
yes
well if it's not in the first slot
PCIe is fully backwards compatible it'll just run at PCIe gen 4 speeds
mystic flax
Ah
pale quartz
about half the one stated on the advertising as an idea
mystic flax
Got it
Found this Image so this is what I expected from the SSD on the x670 motherboard
pale quartz
yeah your board is x670 and that's a advertising image, "PCIe 5.0 everywhere" means to every NVMe/PCIe slot as I described before, it's not available on non-x670e platforms
to the GPU and first NVMe slot only, no consumer GPU is able to communicate in gen 5 mode yet anyways
molten flame
I want the motherboard they use in that pic lol
massive VRM and chipset heatsinks lol
molten flame
most vendors use at least decent quality MOSFETs these days, only cheaping out components for low-end stuff
pale quartz
every board that has a average median does
mystic flax
Well even though I won't be getting exactly the power that I would be getting if I got a x670e, it would still perform so much better than that piece of shit pre built that I got 4 years ago
pale quartz
they just cost close to nothing to use and can mark up the price for fake marketing reasons
molten flame
first gen X370 motherboards that were $200+ often were found with subpar VRMs
mystic flax
Hell maybe later on before I start building, I sell my x670 and get a x670e.
mystic flax
Alright.
pale quartz
and waste of money
molten flame
motherboards are the last component I ever want to swap
mystic flax
Well I haven't done anything with them yet they are still in the box
pale quartz
you aren't going to get the benefits x670e provides so don't waste your money
it only matters if you're a content creator or someone like me with 3 or more NVMe drives
molten flame
just get one big drive and be done with it
mystic flax
Yeah it's mainly for videogames and college work
And the amount of shit that college work takes up is making my storage cry on my current pc
pale quartz
not I/O bandwidth heavy mostly processor related for your use case so no point
mystic flax
So the 4 TB is a welcome
molten flame
they make PCIe 5.0 in 8TB too
mystic flax
That's overkill for me
pale quartz
yeah if you're willing to pay over 1k lol
molten flame
pale quartz
it's not the bargain that you might assume, not a bad price, but it's just slightly lower than what most drives are anyways
molten flame
new storage standard comes down in price over time
pale quartz
MSRPs are not the actual market price of the drive itself, they're only the price, when it released
you can get 20tb hard drives for some $300 on that too
pale quartz
nobody should be using them unless it's for data storage reasons
they just cripple things now
SATA is synchronous, not async, so it causes queuing
molten flame
Companies try to maximize profit per sale when a product is new because they know it will be popular, Gen5 SSDs are sold much higher than they should be
molten flame
almost 2 years afaik
pale quartz
about a year or two, not that high relative to others
mystic flax
This reminds me of when my dad told me he spent 100 dollars on a USB that had 1 GB back then.
molten flame
Gen 4 prices currently just make Gen 5 look terrible
pale quartz
that's what happens when it gets superceded
same thing will happen when PCIe 6 is on consumer boards in the not so distant future again
pale quartz
probably
though boards or the drives themselves normally use some form of it anyways
molten flame
Gen 5 needs a pretty big passive heatsink, some do have fans and even waterblocks tho
toxic wigeon
Oh I thought xx70E was like a cheaper variant no it's the most pricey variant.
I'm still pondering on x670 to be honest.
molten flame
E is a weird letter to add to the name because that letter is commonly affiliated with 'efficiency' or 'economy' in Tech
it's the exact opposite
pale quartz
Oh I thought xx70E was like a cheaper variant no it's the most pricey variant.
nah x670e is a dual chipset platform
every other one has one, it has 2
toxic wigeon
Oh yeah.
pale quartz
I've got the board, it has it's uses, albeit for 0.2% of users
grizzled apex
Question: can I use this as a tech support channel?
pale quartz
Question: can I use this as a tech support channel?
if you mean for the game no
thin lintel
My game won’t launch. I have tried using steam and the desktop .exe it doesn’t open a page the most of it had a small load screen then nothing
void ridge
SteelSeries has changed somehow and instead of making a lot of products with innovative ideas (a mouse with an LED Display and vibration function) to more simplified products that focuses on simplicity and to multiple groups at once (streamers, content creators, eSport players and gamers). since then, they gone very simple with their software and their products (look at the alias pro for an example).
They are of course bigger than before, but they're progress is so slow, even the software updates only do what is voted the most or expected the most from the community. That is why I sent this in here. To get more people gather in order to make SteelSeries it cristal clear what their Software really needs. So that is I also ask everyone in here to pls vote the post up, give it a reaction and also share your own ideas if you have any.
https://discord.com/channels/299040363123965952/1242123350445133834
candid flame
no
void ridge
ok
tawny mauve
How do I see the optional updates?
They only appear sometimes when I tap for check for updates
I had driver update for lenovo firmware 1.15.0.0 that I didn't get to finish, it was only optional updates
brave sundial
Honestly 5 TB HDD may be enough for me
I'd only get something like that to setup a NAS
I already have a basic setup with 2TB with Jellyfin for occasional content I can't source from elsewhere
dry pike
How do I see the optional updates?
advanced > optional
dry pike
Oh, that's windows 10 isn't it
tawny mauve
Yes
dry pike
Then I don't remember
brave sundial
How do I see the optional updates?
Does lenovo have their own PC management software?
I remember dell and hp have them
Try downloading theirs, it should prompt you with their specialised updates
Usually those kind are for bios and stuff
brave sundial
Lenovo system update and lenovo vantage
Download them both and check for updates from them
They aren't just for bios too
The optional updates from manufacturer feature in Windows is basically just that
tawny mauve
I downloaded one called service bridge
Now lenovo system update, but it's the third time it says there's an update for the app
molten flame
odd vale
is it possible to play bf5 with amd ryzen 5 3550H with radeon vega mobile Gfx 2.10 GHz?
pale quartz
is it possible to play bf5 with amd ryzen 5 3550H with radeon vega mobile Gfx 2....
no
brave sundial
is it possible to play bf5 with amd ryzen 5 3550H with radeon vega mobile Gfx 2....
Bro I don't even think you'd be able to boot Battlefield 3 with that
molten flame
You could easily boot BF3 lol but probably playing on low settings
BF3 ran on just 4GB ram
molten flame
GTX 550Ti could run 30 fps 1080p iirc
Minimum requirement on PC was 1GB vram but I know people played with less for sure
lost cargo
1 mil fps at 1p res
terse glade
brave sundial
GTX 550Ti could run 30 fps 1080p iirc
That's a dedicated gpu
He has a laptop igpu
Likely less than 512MB vram
mystic flax
Bruh my storage keeps getting delayed and I'ma miss it because I gotta go to work
toxic wigeon
420MM Fan for 10300K.
dry pike
If you don't buy "Mouse" branded hardware. What are you even doing here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNqAAQOow9c
EU seriously need some better advertising for computer hardware
lost cargo
thats not EU kek
dry pike
exactly
lost cargo
but nice commercial tho. i dig it lowkey
lost cargo
@dry pike this reminds of that commercial
ivory creek
why does my colors look so washed out on windows when i turn on hdr
its awesome with stuff that support hdr but with other stuff it makes it look bland
someone wrote its cuz windows doesnt use proper 2.2gamma
dry pike
<@216911809133674497> this reminds of that commercial
oh dear
lacks a electro swing theme song though
pale quartz
someone wrote its cuz windows doesnt use proper 2.2gamma
https://github.com/dylanraga/win11hdr-srgb-to-gamma2.2-icm you need to use this
ivory creek
thanks
mystic flax
Final things to order for building the PC. I'm getting the monitor in person. Also the PC case said to can hold 10 fans
pale quartz
no case fans only
mystic flax
Got it
mystic flax
So I can get away with just 1-2 fans then
pale quartz
2/3 on the inflow with 120/140mm and always having less on the exhaust (1/2) is the optimal configuration, the more fans you have the more it causes imbalances in the directional flow (disrupting ambients)
the size of the pc case itself is going to be the biggest determination of the ambient temperature inside it anyways, the larger it is the more room there is for hot air to become trapped
pale quartz
yeah more or less pointless wasted space
isn't a bad thing necessarily, just redundant
mystic flax
So I'm just getting a single triple fan kit
1 on the left and 2 on the right
Or top depending if I put the CPU cooler fans/radiator on the right or top
brave sundial
Final things to order for building the PC. I'm getting the monitor in person. Al...
$60 for that screwdriver? I got a similar one for half the price.
Then again I didn't get it from amazon lol
Though I'd always keep a backup manual just in case.
coarse nimbus
an electric screwdriver? how posh
mystic flax
Yeah I don't have anything that I trust to use to build the pc
coarse nimbus
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-18V-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-1-in-Impact-Wrench-Extended-Reach-D-Handle-and-HIGH-OUTPUT-12Ah-Battery-2869-20-48-11-1812/329197499?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&srsltid=AfmBOorENhggA0ZmzkmgmXZehlfpqWj2RiAQwn3aK0JzQehKhTa2bz1VcBI i mean if youre spending all the money already why not go all the way for this bad boy 
mystic flax
Bro nahh
molten flame
air hammers and plumber's wrenches are the most useful tools I've ever came across (not for PC building of course )
coarse nimbus
idk air hammering the tab that holds in a ram stick seems efficient
molten flame
I just need a tool to remove the 24-pin connector
coarse nimbus
https://youtube.com/shorts/1neFMrJkePY?si=P9OJYUF_tnL1PMaj arc gouging? or does the connector need to stay intact
molten flame
terse glade
I'm ready to get a 5700x3d
I never changed CPU tho
Need to watch lots of tutorials
But then I think my 3800x still enough for me
molten flame
5700X3D is easier to cool than the 5800X3D but the clockspeed is really low tbh
5800X3D is 5-10% faster at 1080p
pale quartz
yeah base clocks are very low, AM4 chips nowadays are all not worth it generally
molten flame
terse glade
Yea that's why i think screw it, if I will upgrade I go completely to AM5 instead investing into a dead socket
molten flame
5700X3D probably like 35% faster than 3800X at 1080p
terse glade
I play on 3440x1440p with a 75hz monitor
molten flame
terse glade
We speak maybe of a max 10% difference
molten flame
Zen 2 is not a modern architecture anymore especially for these new games
pale quartz
just scrap your AM4 board and go to AM5 directly
the boards and processors are cheap enough
and it's not worth any cost for a new one
terse glade
Yea especially flight sim struggling, but actually also even fortnite
Yea that's what I'm thinking as well
pale quartz
if you're wanting flight sim there's a very good case that you just go for the 7950x3d directly
game is heavily multithreaded
molten flame
Zen 2 is pretty bad with that game anyway
molten flame
Zen 3 is 30% faster than Zen 2 in Flight Sim 2020
Zen 4 is about 15% faster than Zen 3
molten flame
Zen 2 struggles pretty hard with it and experiences stutters
pale quartz
yeah cause memory is fucked on zen 2 lol
processor based game doesn't like cross traversals
molten flame
refreshed consoles probably need at least Zen 4 to stay relevant for a while but they are sticking with Zen 2 ofc
pale quartz
they'd never do a architecture upgrade for a refresh
why would they do that and disincentivise people from upgrading to the next generation
pale quartz
2028
molten flame
figured it was 2027
pale quartz
nah well next Xbox at a minimum is 2028
assuming their leaked plans remain unchanged anyways
molten flame
Series S is gonna make games suck until then
pale quartz
it already does
molten flame
lmao
terse glade
The fact that gta6 will be on series s worries me
They do the same they did back then 2013
pale quartz
nothing dynamic resolution at 480p/600p can't solve
it already downscales to that amount anyways
burnt coyote
im considering upgrade from a s to a x soon
terse glade
Releasing for 360/PS3 wait 2 years, then sell again for PS4/one and then even again on series s-x/PS5
pale quartz
the main problem with the consoles is compared to pc equivalents it's barely justifiable to consider the console change a upgrade
burnt coyote
i wish they would just release the pc version of gta 6 alongside the console vversions
pale quartz
especially for the price
pale quartz
i wish they would just release the pc version of gta 6 alongside the console vve...
never happening it's done intentionally
pc users buy it twice
burnt coyote
im not waiting for the pc ersion
pale quartz
exactly that's why they don't dual release it
burnt coyote
for the price i payed the s is a decent console
pale quartz
for its price it's not bad.. just in terms of hierarchy, and every other measurement it is
it should never really have existed as a console, but Microsoft didn't really have anything else to compete with the playstation
terse glade
It's a banger for the buck also from efficiency standpoint
Not sucking more than 120w
cloud solar
What's up with #streams-and-videos ?
Is there newish restrictions or requirements now?
It takes me here to #technology
pale quartz
What's up with <#174646583021928460> ?
Is there newish restrictions or requireme...
no go to channels and roles, you need the community creations one assigned
terse glade
A media player which can play Forza Motorsport, fortnite on 120hz... Ok not on 4k but let's say you have a 1080p monitor series s is absolutely worth it if ur on budget imo
pale quartz
yes when you use artificial techniques for frame boosting that's possible
can be done on pc just as easily
cloud solar
no go to channels and roles, you need the community creations one assigned
Ah ok
pale quartz
even higher at that than 120
terse glade
But not for 300$ deco
pale quartz
yes, you can
put a apu with mediocre memory enact frame generation and dsr you get higher framerates than it
is pretty easy
the consoles do not output at native resolution, they use DSR inbuilt, 4k is not actual 4k
pale quartz
it's not
terse glade
Even series X?
pale quartz
a pc can't even power 4k at that framerate without a 4080 or above why would the console with gimped hardware be able to
pale quartz
Even series X?
yes, they all do
terse glade
a pc can't even power 4k at that framerate without a 4080 or above why would the...
Lol ye that's what I also always found weird and I explained it to myself it has to do game devs could better use console architecture because they're like all same and it's easier to squeeze every frame in it
pale quartz
yeah nah, they just use sophisticated techniques to lower the render resolution of assets at a distance and other smoke and mirror ones, if it was native the consoles would be outputting at 20 frames in every game
4k native is extremely taxing on render resources, though that's inevitable with 1 billion pixels being simultaneously rendered
terse glade
Meanwhile from official Xbox description: "The primary difference between the two consoles is that the Xbox Series X displays games at native 4K, comes equipped with a UHD Blu-ray Disc player, and 1TB of custom SSD storage. Xbox Series S is designed for disc-free gaming at 1440p (with the ability to upscale to 4K), with a custom SSD."
pale quartz
yes displays, it means the output (is 4k), it's not discussing the internal resolution
different things
terse glade
Clever marketing
pale quartz
these are all techniques done in render, upsampling etc to fake the output as 4k, but it's not native, actual native is the input and output being 4k, that doesn't happen on the consoles
that's why Sony had that bullshit 8k marketing sticker on the playstation because it can "technically" output it
terse glade
Yea I remember that
pale quartz
even a 4090 struggles in some games to output 4k 120, there is a distinct quality difference though with upsampling and native, is unavoidable, the consoles do a good enough job to fake it and when the PS4 et al are outputting 720p resolution from a user pov it seems like a massive difference
that's all that matters at the end of the day, that the user believes it's 4k
burnt coyote
still dont understand why the new cod will require 300gb of storage
to lazy to compress
mystic flax
still dont understand why the new cod will require 300gb of storage
It's all 3 cods combined
Mw2022, mw2023, and black ops 6
burnt coyote
ewww
brave sundial
still dont understand why the new cod will require 300gb of storage
that's COD HQ, so all of the recent CODs plus BO6
BO6 MP will end up being like 70GB probably
With a hell ton of texture streaming and compression
terse glade
round heart
Guys for busy website/webpage, what is more important and responsive load, bandwith(download speed) or ping/latency?
Thanks
pale quartz
Guys for busy website/webpage, what is more important and responsive load, bandw...
dunno what you're asking lol
red cobalt
sorry for asking here , battlefield 2042 starts the splash screen and after that it just doesnt want to launch, any way to fix it ?
pale quartz
well yeah the 4060ti isn't that great and DLSS favours higher base performance for higher uplifts
isn't too surprising
candid flame
they are around the same price though, 7800xt is 30$ more
lost cargo
tbh this comparison is bad... the 7800xt is more on par with rtx 3080. and 3080 is faster than 4060ti
atleast a normal 4070 is faster than 3080 but barely faster than 7800xt
yes 4060ti is close but needing dlss to compare vs 7800xt with no upscale is bad comparison imo
as of raw performance
willow schooner
4060ti is just crap as an upgrade from 3060ti
candid flame
expensive crap
quick locust
Nvidia skill issue
lost cargo
Tbh, the 60s is bad for gaming it’s more lean into workstations or for low budget gaming
Most people lean towards 70s or 80s for gaming even for TIs and super variants
willow schooner
The 3060ti is a good GPU. The 4060ti is just crap
quick locust
Most people lean towards 70s or 80s for gaming even for TIs and super variants
Nah not the median player
Also rip amd gpu sales
quick locust
The 3060ti is a good GPU. The 4060ti is just crap
Hopefully Blackwell does better midrange lol (though they dont have much incentive)
willow schooner
I doubt it will be , as least based on leaks.
brave sundial
Hopefully Blackwell does better midrange lol (though they dont have much incent...
Blackwell seems to be even worse for mid-range
Atleast last gen midrange owners can be confident with their purchases
dry pike
AI is terrible at all the things, until it isn't
mystic flax
storm osprey
The 3060ti is a good GPU. The 4060ti is just crap
in which way?
if this is true, damn good deal
willow schooner
It's barely an upgrade over the 3060ti in a lot of games
storm osprey
i mean, as always just depends on prices at the time
3060 ti was only available for a few months too
willow schooner
It released in 2020?
storm osprey
yea so were several other 3000 series cards that werent readily available for a year or longer, and when they did the prices were higher, and iirc the 3060ti was just way more limited than other cards
currently its just dumb to buy a 3060 ti
willow schooner
Lol that was deleted fast. It did release in 2020
storm osprey
yea google being dumb, but you can obviously ignore that one omission that i deleted
willow schooner
But 4060ti still isn't a great card.
4070 is a lot faster for not a lot more generally
storm osprey
bit of a vague statement that could lead people to buying something not worth it
the launch of the 4060ti was bad, currently its probably one of the better price to performance options
willow schooner
Disagree
storm osprey
i mean.. disagreeing with math is weird
willow schooner
At the discount price shown above, maybe. But you rarely see good models at that price
It's a bad GPU for its msrp
storm osprey
even if you go up to the msi model at 380, thats almost 200 dollars cheaper than the cheapest 4070
ehh, not almost, its 150 dollars cheaper
which iirc theres about a 30% performance difference
which off the top of my head the price difference is more than 30%
(not even including the 300 dollar 4060 ti)
even at launch price it had better price to performance than 4070
willow schooner
8gb model pricing also. But vram amount will be more of an issue in future vs now.
storm osprey
again a lot of factors and things change
how long will that be a problem at 1080p, 1440p, etc? what games? etc etc
willow schooner
Iirc 4060ti also has some issues with bandwidth, due to lower bus and pcie connector being x8
I've seen a lot of people having issues on emulators with 4060ti and 4060,but that's more edgecases usage. Still seen enough issues to not like the gpus tho
storm osprey
🤷 i dont think its that simple
willow schooner
I mean, if you don't have a cpu with pcie 4.0, it's simply a performance loss on 3.0 X8.
storm osprey
i was talking in regards to not liking a gpu in general when its very use case and timing specific
willow schooner
They are a very cut down budget card, which they shouldn't be for the price
mystic flax
They delayed it those bastards
Guess so many people want that case
I did preorder it the day/week it became available
digital hill
The world if Razer blade laptops didn't have inflating batteries:
Nah imagine the world if intel didn’t make the pentium 4 and just went to core 2 series
Seriously the pentium 4 could easily be beaten by pentium 3
scarlet lagoon
Hello I have a problem with launching Battlefield 1 on Steam, basically when I try to run it, EA Launcher says "preparing game" and then both ea and battlefield closes itself and nothing happens, I tried reinstalling, update driver, windows update, tried running BF1 in windows 7 and 8 compact mode and idk what to do
pale quartz
Hello I have a problem with launching Battlefield 1 on Steam, basically when I t...
!!help
well fuck
this channel isn't used for tech support
pale quartz
you can't report it here, it's not monitored by EA or dice staff and they can't provide assistance, contact EA support
scarlet lagoon
you can't report it here, it's not monitored by EA or dice staff and they can't ...
And isnt there anybody who knows how to fix this issue or name solutions that are not generic?
pale quartz
probably not no, at least in a official capacity, this server isnt ran by them, it's a community run one
scarlet lagoon
I'll try support, thanks
molten flame
why does Chrome/Youtube use hardware acceleration for video decode, it just makes 60 fps videos stuttery
I disabled it and videos play smooth now
pale quartz
why does Chrome/Youtube use hardware acceleration for video decode, it just make...
what do you mean why, because AV1/h265 require GPU acceleration otherwise it's going to max out a processor
pale quartz
no
disabling it, doesn't disable the driver, it disables it entirely for the browser for every feature
molten flame
I don't see any issues disabling it, videos play at true 60 fps now
pale quartz
try running a opengl feature on the browser and you'll get some 15 frames
pale quartz
it's possible it's blacklisted by MESA, vp9 was done before for RDNA2 cards, if you are using a iGPU in combination it will be disabled as it's bugged for AV1 output
iGPUs and discrete RDNA do not work correctly for browser acceleration
alternatively it's possible it's offloading to it entirely
molten flame
I remember like a decade ago when many people were having issues with their Intel HD graphics being used instead of their discrete GPU despite having the display cable plugged directly to the dGPU lol
think just a simple BIOS setting had to be changed
pale quartz
it's not a problem, it's by design
windows will offload tasks to the iGPU which are deemed power saving
pale quartz
you can turn off the behaviour by switching off the iGPU or disabling switching entirely, it doesn't read games as a category, rather it assesses them independently
there's a whitelist it reads from
in the case of the AV1 issue you have to turn off the iGPU entirely
molten flame
windows will offload tasks to the iGPU which are deemed power saving
I imagine this is common with laptops that have APU + dGPU config
pale quartz
no it occurs if it's available whatsoever regardless of platform
laptops have it because it's well required
pale quartz
yes, well probably, just unnoticed
if the iGPU is available at all it will do that behaviour
molten flame
