#technology
molten flame
pale quartz
iMessage is being targeted too lol
molten flame
ripe brook
Does anyone in here have experience with Steelseries headsets?
I have the Pulse Elite, but they're a little too flat for my liking. I do love how crisp and clear the sound comes through though, however I'm looking at Arctis Nova 7's
runic pendant
Does anyone in here have experience with Steelseries headsets?
Bad sound quality headphones brand btw
Logitech, razer also
ivory creek
so annoying that i have to switch to edge to get hdr on youtube. firefox doesnt seem to support it
ripe brook
Bad sound quality headphones brand btw
Sad news
ivory creek
i got sennheiser 560s, im really happy with them. but theyre open back and got no mic
runic pendant
Solid ones tho
molten flame
storm osprey
I have the Pulse Elite, but they're a little too flat for my liking. I do love h...
i have the nova 7 myself
no clue about the pulse elite, but the nova 7 is pretty flat as well
storm osprey
Bad sound quality headphones brand btw
idk about other steelseries or gaming headphones brands, but the nova 7 are surprisingly good
they definitely dont have that strong V sound signature that most gaming headphones have for "coolness"
for reference i was using audio technica ath-ad700x for YEARS before i got my nova headset, and the sound quality drop off isnt as nearly as drastic as expected, the sound signature is arguably similar too (recessed lows, decent mids, and forward but not bright highs)
nova 7 definitely lack the soundstage and separation of the audio technicas i had, but for gaming thats really not a problem
for straight music listening/media consumption i still use my sennheiser 6xx with a schiit stack, but for gaming, especially wireless gaming, the nova 7 are more than good enough
molten flame
ATH-M40X are perfect studio monitoring headphones at $100
ripe brook
i have the nova 7 myself
no clue about the pulse elite, but the nova 7 is pretty...
Thank you for verifying this! Might as well just stick with my Pulse Elite’s
storm osprey
It’s not monitor headphones flat, but for gaming it sure is.
lost cargo
Logitech, razer also
Never had an issue with razer 
sturdy merlin
Anyone have success maxing out FPS on pC. i am stuck at 150 and I know i can get more.
storm osprey
Never had an issue with razer <:laugh:1192833332866719835>
It’s not really problems, just most gaming headphones have poor sound quality, but it won’t affect your performance and you likely won’t know the sound quality is bad unless you get into “audiophile” circles.
Generally speaking you are spending more on the branding than the actual quality. Like 30 dollar audio headphones would sound better than 95% of gaming headphones at any price.
ivory creek
btw is there any reason why the certified hdmi 2.1 cables in the tech store here only is up to 3 meters? does the quality degrade after that? i would need like a 10 meters
molten flame
candid flame
runic pendant
lost cargo
Didn't see this coming: rtx only had 1 HDMI
Wym?
old python
Wym?
i have 2 monitors that only have HDMI, no dp
do you think its okay to get HDMI to DP?
pale quartz
yes you can do that
lost cargo
My GPU have multiple HDMI ports. That’s why I’m so confused.
old python
My GPU have multiple HDMI ports. That’s why I’m so confused.
whats yours
pale quartz
AIB boards can choose the ports they want
1 hdmi and other DP is the factory stock though
old python
different connectors can still support high Hz?
lost cargo
RTX 3080 EVGA
lost cargo
I have one DP and 3 HDMIs I think. I know I have multiple HDMIs.
lost cargo
Idk, Deco knows more info.
lost cargo
dont high powered cards only have 1 HDMI?
@pale quartz
lost cargo
O, I see. I didn’t scroll up
old python
whats aib
pale quartz
dont high powered cards only have 1 HDMI?
no it's chosen by Nvidia and Radeon as the factory configuration, AIBs are add in board partners who use their own designs on GPUs such as having different ports, the 3/1 configuration you have is the default Nvidia have for theirs
molten flame
if Radeon priortizes HDMI especially for FreeSync, why do their GPUs only have 1 HDMI
can you force FreeSync through DP?
quick locust
DP has vesa adaptive sync, no?
quick locust
different connectors can still support high Hz?
Displayport? Yep
pale quartz
can you force FreeSync through DP?
freesync works across both not just hdmi
midnight crypt
Never
toxic wigeon
Thanks.
dry pike
when the next Bf
When the next Battlefield has a release window, it will release during that window, unless it doesn't
storm osprey
180 bucks for a 180hz 1080p monitor? that cant be right
you can get 165hz 1440p 27" for like 200-250
odd, apparently those are just the going prices
@steady radish wait what region and what vendor?
steady radish
you can get 165hz 1440p 27" for like 200-250
I was like chasing the refresh rate
Cuz i've been using
720p 60hz 5ms 19pouce monitor for like 7 years and i just woke up to reality
old python
Alright, my R5 3600 is in
Aaaand, I found something strange: this box comes with the stealth model cooler
My 1600 is spire
Did they stop bundling spire models for R5?
pale quartz
Did they stop bundling spire models for R5?
yes they stopped years ago
storm osprey
I was like chasing the refresh rate
under 200hz 1080p monitors are in a strange spot imo, at least in the us market
molten flame
Freesync no longer being included with FHD 1080p monitors with less than 144 refresh rate
No more of those cheap 75Hz freesync monitors lol
They won't be missed
pale quartz
its mostly cause they didnt work properly on them
steady radish
under 200hz 1080p monitors are in a strange spot imo, at least in the us market
ur right but in our countries, my salaray per day is like 5 bucks per day. thats why i found those afordable to me
the fact i gotta work for month 6 days in da week to offord it is halarious xD
storm osprey
I don’t know the prices there so I’m not really commenting on that. Just in USA the price difference between 1440p and 1080p is pretty minimal
old python
No more of those cheap 75Hz freesync monitors lol
Woah woah.
Are you really hating on 75?
molten flame
midnight crypt
impressive if true
molten coral
5090 is rumored to be 70% faster than 4090 ….
and 70% more expensive?
midnight crypt
but also wondering about power consumption on that thing
pale quartz
the power consumption doesn't matter, it will still be the most efficient GPU regardless
molten flame
most efficient for work related stuff but gaming with uncapped framerate it will be using a lot of power constantly
makes me wonder how much power a 4090 would use at 1080p if capped to only 60Hz 
would definitely use more than a 4060 that's for sure
pale quartz
most efficient for work related stuff but gaming with uncapped framerate it will...
that's why barely any games have "uncapped framerates" lol
it's not an issue, literally just enforce a frame cap if necessary
candid flame
didn't monster hunter world have no framecap which caused people's cpus to combust
molten flame
I almost want to pay more for a 4070 than a 7800XT because of the efficiency difference lol
pale quartz
Radeon just isn't that efficient, they can't be to make up the framerate target
molten flame
nearly all models of 7800XT draws more power than advertised, going around 300 watts
but that is because of factory OC
all 7700XT/7800XT are pushed hard out of box
7900GRE more efficient than both even gaming with uncapped framerate at high res
lost cargo
and 70% more expensive?
People is speculating about 2-2.5k usd
Atleast market will make it that expensive if the GPUs dropped
midnight crypt
4090 already costs that much here
so a 5090 is for sure gonna be atleast 50% more
nocturne drift
nah 3090 to 4090 was only 100 usd increase
and that is like 60-80% performance increase
toxic wigeon
@nocturne drift did you see a guy clock their ram to 10K MHZ.
lost cargo
10k sheesh
nocturne drift
That's high dang. I am stuck at 7600
midnight crypt
nah 3090 to 4090 was only 100 usd increase
not over here
brave sundial
lost cargo
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-was-released-7-years-ago
You’re making me feel old asf.
bleak vector
I'm thinking of upgrading my monitor in the next week or two...am I insane to consider this??
lost cargo
Bruh, that’s a tv dawg
bleak vector
It's definitely a monitor!
bleak vector
Haha, yeah I'd definitely need to get a deeper desk (something I was planning on doing anyway)
lost cargo
It’s looks really nice.
The question is can you run 4k tho?
Without breaking your pc
bleak vector
Yeah it's got great reviews, and it's a massive saving. Bigger than I was planning on going (42"), but there's a substantial difference in price
I've got a 7800X3D and 4070ti OC currently, but plan to upgrade to a 4090, or wait and get a 5090. Basically the monitor will be future-proofed, and I can run 4k decently with the gpu I have for now.
pale quartz
I'm thinking of upgrading my monitor in the next week or two...am I insane to co...
no, but if you want OLED there are much better options
toxic wigeon
Oh fucking Harvey normies.
I know of a cool 27 inch oled you could go for.
Something lg.
pale quartz
this is the first gen OLED panel so it suffers severely in image quality
@bleak vector get the MPG 321URX instead
the panel you linked is OLED, this one is QD-OLED, goes up to 240hz, has much better SDR brightness and better text clarity, so it's strictly better in every sense
magic latch
is bios version p2.70 able to run ryzen 7 5700x3d
pale quartz
is bios version p2.70 able to run ryzen 7 5700x3d
what motherboard do you have?
magic latch
b450m pro or some like that
pale quartz
is it the pro gaming? you'll need to find out the model
pale quartz
ASRock B450M Pro4-F
the answer is no you'll need to update the bios to the latest version
magic latch
how do i do that
pale quartz
look at your motherboard manual for guidance
magic latch
says i need a usb
pale quartz
yes a usb stick
magic latch
yeah does it matter what kind
pale quartz
https://youtu.be/GNoNVL0dYL8?si=2mWqK1AS2d0XYaxi go follow that
storm osprey
this is the first gen OLED panel so it suffers severely in image quality
First time I’ve ever heard any oleds image to be bad…
pale quartz
First time I’ve ever heard any oleds image to be bad…
the first gen OLED panels have mediocre sRGB spectrum coverage because they're not QD, the gamut just isn't as big
they're not bad, just there's no reason to buy them compared to the competition
storm osprey
Could have sworn the only problem was srgb brightness, not anything to do with color coverage or accuracy.
broken basin
Hey folks, tech issue going on. My buddy and I want to play Battlefield on cross-play. I have PC and he is Xbox. A list of what I have checked
- Cross-play is on
- My firewall is good
- Updated everything
- Internet speed is fine
Everytime I go to add him on Battlefield, his name shows up, I click add, I click on Send EA play request and nothing, he clicks on his end and nothing.
pale quartz
Hey folks, tech issue going on. My buddy and I want to play Battlefield on cross...
if he is on last gen Xbox you cannot play with crossplay, only the new gen, old gen are locked to their own platforms
molten flame
awful config
5090 could be double performance of 5080
5080 may barely come ahead of 4080 Super
turbid verge
finally some actual 512 bit bus with a hit tons of streaming multiprocessor
solid for some data processing and AI training
broken basin
if he is on last gen Xbox you cannot play with crossplay, only the new gen, old ...
Thank you.
pale quartz
np
lost cargo
512 bit 
brave sundial
For a second I thought you bought that mitsubishi square toaster
molten flame
lofty light
Started printing stuff with PET-G last night, damn that stuff is so much cleaner than PLA
nocturne drift
2080ti goat now 🤣
ivory creek
a food delivery service here is going to try delivery by drones
wonder how many foodboxes that will crash into the ground
lol
molten flame
lofty light
Almost double the clock speed of my old intel extreme core 
lofty light
Nowadays you can get 3% more performance for 2x the power 
lost cargo
It’s great for newcomers
magic latch
can som1 help me in a voice call
i need bios P8.01 but i have no idea what is what
says nothing about that just says
Version like 1-10
would it be 8.01
im so lost 😭
wait im dumb
it says all the
Versions just without the p
small zinc
Oh hey look. The 14900ks even on stupid overclocked memory is still slower than AMD.
Yawn. Nothing to see here....
dry pike
It's summer soon. Gotta keep those gamer rooms extra hot
ivory creek
im trying out upscaling at max quality and hdr video on sdr content through nvidia controllpanel and it looks good but damn only watching a youtube clip use 35-40% of my rtx 3090
quick locust
Kinda need an improvement since ADL
dry pike
im trying out upscaling at max quality and hdr video on sdr content through nvid...
Might want to check that out. Have not falled over the setting though.
quick locust
Instead of refreshes
ivory creek
Might want to check that out. Have not falled over the setting though.
its in the old controll panel at the bottom some video settings
quick locust
Time to upgrade 8700K to 14900KS /s
quick locust
Nah im more considering a 7700X or something
dry pike
its in the old controll panel at the bottom some video settings
Hmm, didn't really notice any difference. Maybe Chrome needs a restart.
ivory creek
does it say active in the panel when u have a video going?
dry pike
Sure
ivory creek
cool
dry pike
I do need a setting to automatically disable it when gaming
ivory creek
i kept switching it on and off and it did some differese to the colors
and having it upscaled from really low res up to 4k or whatever the max setting is made a huge difference to me
dry pike
Oh, I did see the HDR kick in there
Ah yeah, kicking the video down to 360p I do see the difference
ivory creek
ye its pretty neat
dry pike
Seems to use 10-39% GPU here
ivory creek
but ialso have to turn it off when gaming cuz i cant have it eat my gpu when i only have it running to listen to music
quick locust
Well also depends what it is using on gpu
This is probably just tensor plus decoder
ivory creek
the ingame rtx hdr is pretty cool aswell if u got any leftover power to use
pale quartz
im trying out upscaling at max quality and hdr video on sdr content through nvid...
its not built to be efficient with ampere, only lovelace
ivory creek
alright
nocturne drift
14900ks does 5.9ghz all cores in gaming.
That's nice.
But I am not spending $$$ to gain 0.2ghz
💀
spring shore
molten flame
14900ks does 5.9ghz all cores in gaming.
AMD will now launch a 7850X3D with 2 layers of 3D cache stacked on top of main chip for a total of 160MB L3
throw cache (or cash) at problems
crisp radish
heya boys can i get some help with bf4 im having issues with the game launching it downloads and gets as far and the black load screen and freezes i can still hear the lobby music
pale quartz
AMD will now launch a 7850X3D with 2 layers of 3D cache stacked on top of main c...
realistically you're going to get nonexistent scaling
L3 performance craters out hard past what already exists, at most it would be like 10% for 30% extra capacity
molten flame
yeah plus the physical distance of having another 3D chip
what they would need to do is increase capacity per chip instead
multi-die stacking is already present in AMD server GPUs
I think Mi300 has 3-layer die stacking
pale quartz
Milan has it yes but you're not going to see those gains on consumer chips even if it's implemented
molten flame
pale quartz
TSV latency for multi die stacking isn't great and that's a problem when you're talking about games which are mission critical
molten flame
wonder if AMD plans to use 3D cache for GPUs
pale quartz
they do
molten flame
small performance difference between the 7800XT and 7900GRE is said to be caused by the cache config than the small memory interface on 7900GRE
maybe RDNA3 is deprived of cache instead of memory bandwidth
same for RDNA2
crisp radish
hey guys
toxic wigeon
7900xt3d for all your graphical lows.
Sorry Chad by the way I'm not sure if we can specifically answer your conundrum.
nocturne drift
wtf dlss 3 is actually insane
126 fps in 2077 now 200+
I do feel a slight latency increase but I cant find ai generated frames even whipping my mouse around
candid flame
you mean the frame gen?
molten flame
4090 too strong
Seeing how big the performance gap between 4080 and 4090 is, 5080 will be a lot slower than 4090 imo
nocturne drift
Yeah I went over 40k on timespy.
My 3090 was 25k
💀
It's soo OP I play the finals at 1440 with max RTX and felt competitive.
😭
robust magnet
battlefield 2042: my game wont load i have blackscreen and then loading screen, took 30 mins to boot up main menu, couldnt load into a match (they finish before I can load in) what is wrong
"2.1 hours of playtime" and ive only completed half the tutorial
hybrid aurora
hello, anyone else having fps drops and crashes all of a sudden?
in battlefield 2042
little creek
Hi i just got the game. after launching, it says please update your nvidia driver from 474.82 to 536.40 or later versions i tryed to update but i cant.
hybrid aurora
use Geforce Experience
little creek
yes im useing it
little creek
ok, but how im going to do that?
little creek
bc the driver version 536.40 does not support my gtx760
midnight crypt
you need a gpu upgrade my man
little creek
i yep i got it nice
small zinc
realistically you're going to get nonexistent scaling
I don't think that's true at all.
More L2 + L3 = higher data buffers = higher performance.
In the case of AMD CPU's it's also unified cache
ivory creek
nvidia keep adding that dynamic color filter to elden ring even tho i turn it off. makes everything look horrid. so i have to exit the game and then turn it off again and restart
i have it off as global setting
😐
and off for the game aswell
candid flame
yeah it's quite horrible
ivory creek
i like the rtx hdr tho
since the hdr mode in elden ring is broken and greys everything out
magic latch
i need help
i put new cpu in and its says 2 things
i can send a pic for som1 pls dm
clever spade
Hey guys, is R5 3600 and GTX 1070, with 16GB of ram be enough for BF 2042?
molten flame
chilly plover
I get 330 fps when entering the game but 60-70 fps in the game. I have problems with this.
help bro ?
midnight crypt
no
chilly plover
okey 😦
brave sundial
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-ally-with-z1-extreme-drops-to-599-making-ms...
I'll wait until it's $450
I would not trust msi for the claw 
To be fair I wouldn't trust Asus either but the rog ally is the more popular product
molten flame
I'll wait until it's $450 <:leo:760110335687524423>
There will be one 2x faster in a year or two
robust magnet
hey guys
how do i fix this annoying load time issue where everyhting takes 20+ mins to load up
by the time i reach the main menu its already gone downstairs for snacks n stuff, and by the time i get into a match its already halfway (or completely) over
nocturne drift
should I flash this bios to get 1.1v instead of 1.07v on the 4090
nocturne drift
I did it.
1.1v bios the card still pulls 100w less in 1440p than my 3090 in 1080p
crude pewter
I get 330 fps when entering the game but 60-70 fps in the game. I have problems ...
That’s like normal for every game
@pale quartz ordered my i7 9700 replacement cuz it decided to take a shit early. 13600k coming in hot
dark egret
my 2042 won't launch, i've done literally everything i could find online, and nothing works...
i'm desperate
crude pewter
my 2042 won't launch, i've done literally everything i could find online, and no...
U signed into EA app?
midnight crypt
my 2042 won't launch, i've done literally everything i could find online, and no...
launch the ea app
dark egret
yup, tried that too
stray bane
bro why my battlefield 1 stuck on the black loading screen,i just bought the game and just install it,and when i open this loading never end
crude pewter
bro why my battlefield 1 stuck on the black loading screen,i just bought the gam...
Have u tried anything?
stray bane
Have u tried anything?
yea i tried to wait,and it's been 1 hour,
sweet bison
Hi, anyone have this error launching the game? "There is a problem with your game configuration. please reinstall it" i cant play, i already have all my drivers, direct x, vc redist, etc updated and steam verified files
lost cargo
nocturne drift
I sold my 2080ti and it hurts me, It was a 2080ti strix oc and I flashed a 2080ti matrix platinum vbios on performance mode unlocking 360w power limit. The guy who brought it put it on quiet mode at 250w power limit and had a trash 600w PSU with daisy chain power cable. Quiet mode...... This is against everything I stand for wtf. We pushing p right? Not pushing q. Wtf is pushing q. Bruh I have a signature yoyo coming out called overclock wtf is this.
hushed compass
Can I run bf2042 on RX6400, i5-2500?
dreamy dome
Can I run bf2042 on RX6400, i5-2500?
lol that cpu is 13 years old, might be time for an upgrade
mild night
anyone running bf2042 on an rx580
plucky token
I sold my 2080ti and it hurts me, It was a 2080ti strix oc and I flashed a 2080t...
500w power limit on my card 
nocturne drift
500w power limit on my card <:Hmm:1023439887665463386> <:SadHampter:121173367692...
3090?
toxic wigeon
I'm scared of the 5090's boosted clock power draw.
dry pike
I'm more scared of the heat it will produce. The space heater is real.
nocturne drift
I am not at all
40 series is stupidly efficient I draw 100w less at 1.1v 4090 at 1440p than 0.925v at 1080p with 3090
also I dont think nvidia can go any higher they not putting 2 12pin power cables on their gpu LOL
ok maybe only galax does
lost cargo
I'm more scared of the heat it will produce. The space heater is real.
Just water cool it in a iced out bathtub
EZ claps
lost cargo
I have a EVGA 3080
nocturne drift
3080 evga unlocked
That has 450w
plucky token
They got one for ln2 which unlocks it
nocturne drift
Beta xoc vbios?
nocturne drift
I had it too
lost cargo
I always under clock than over clock
plucky token
Probably going asus with the next series
Ive got an custom loop which helps with the temps overall
dry pike
Just water cool it in a iced out bathtub
Then you just move the heat production to the freezer, who would have a hard time making enough ice
lost cargo
Use the deep freezer instead
quick locust
nocturne drift
Sad no evga cards anymore
3080 ftw3 xoc vbios
I once flashed a 1000w vbios on evga ftw3 3080ti
plucky token
Well. 2 3080s bricked themself
Without oc or anything.
Randomly died on me.
Now i wait for the 5000 series and intels 15 series.
nocturne drift
Well. 2 3080s bricked themself
Not surprised at all
Are they evga?
Evga had a 20% rma rate at my friend's pc company
We celebrated when they stopped making gpu and their lives became soo much easier
molten flame
toxic wigeon
I just found out the boosted clock for the fold 5's processor is 30 MHZ faster than the fold 4 LMAO.
Truly worth a yearly upgrade.
plucky token
Are they evga?
Ye. Well, i did rma with the local evga hq which was 100km away. Drove to them and swapped them out
lofty light
Both my two last evga cards failed lol
1080 ftw and 2080ti, both the most infamous issues those cards had
nocturne drift
is 2080ti 1st revision micron vram?
prime jasper
Never had any issues with EVGA cards, exclusively bought their stuff for 9 10 30 series cards
Rocking this sus Zotac 4090 now
I miss EVGA, those cards were sick
nocturne drift
Oof
lofty light
At least I’m on amd now
nocturne drift
Why can't Kingpin himself sprinkle some wisdom on their normal lineup
Like we all know best cards are Galax Hof and KP
So evga clearly knows how to make awesome stuff
molten flame
Nvidia GPUs are barely profitable for AIBs and it seems like EVGA didn't want small profits which is why they cheaped-out on materials or components multiple times
coarse nimbus
They cheaped out on my fans 
lost cargo
prime jasper
Dope what kind of printer do you have
prime jasper
Those are pretty nice
I have a Creality Ender 3 Max Neo or something like that
haven't printed anything in a while though
lofty light
Although I’m needing to buy a dry box for my filament as my PETG is getting horribly stringy
prime jasper
ah
lofty light
Tried cooking it in the oven but my oven is a fair bit too oily
prime jasper
damn, cant you buy bags and throw some moisture control packets or something like that in there
I do stuff like that for my guitars, dont know if it works like that for PETG
lofty light
I could but it takes a while
prime jasper
I figured yeah
lofty light
And I’m printing almost every day when I’m home lol
prime jasper
hell yeah
obtuse dirge
i just got the game on pc and im forced to play on low settings because i keep getting the warning "high cpu usage", even then I'm not able to play because it shows up anyway. its a ryzen 7 5800x
lofty light
That’s very strange it shouldn’t be doing that with that cpu
Check your task manager and see if anything else is hammering the cpu?
obtuse dirge
only the game is doing that, i have to add that even when I set it to ultra performance I still get the warning.
lofty light
Battlefield is hard on the cpu but unless you’re running a crypto miner in the background or something that cpu should be fine
Oh unless it’s a laptop
obtuse dirge
i have a decent PC rig, it definitly should handle it but it doesn't, ive made sure to have it be the only program running and still
lofty light
Definitely check task manager while the game is running and see what the usage is like
tranquil goblet
xbox series x keeps closing on haven while playing the breakthrough will try conquest now, cleaned the storage on xbox, reset my net work, and i just got the ultimate pass then restarted the game
toxic wigeon
They're aware.
tranquil goblet
crashed again on conquest but now i can not even use my series x dead on the dashboard omg
ok had to master reset it, sorry i can not play like this and i wait for an update
molten flame
RTX 5000 series won't use 3nm which isn't surprising
using same node as 4000 series but a refinement lol
molten flame
biggest improvement that 5090 will see over the 4090 is from GDDR7 memory and new cache improvements
ivory creek
damn i was hoping for a 5070ti with 4080 super or 4090 performance
ivory creek
new nvidia drivers are out. rtx hdr is supposed to have been changed from a gamma 2.0 to 2.2 curve. whatever that means. is it going to look even better now?
pale quartz
new nvidia drivers are out. rtx hdr is supposed to have been changed from a gamm...
no, the gamma curve wasn't changed, there were just situations where it would incorrectly assign in games for lighting
ivory creek
oh i mightve read it too fast
wary ocean
is anyone having an issue with joining parties or have heard of people havimg this probelm in the past?
molten flame
molten flame
256-bit GPU will have 16GB vram and 192-bit will have 12GB and so on as usual
there was talk of going to 24Gb (3GB) GDDR7 chips in a refresh maybe
molten coral
Twitter
nocturne drift
This 4090 makes me realize ampere is SOOOOO power hungry wtf
pallid ibex
https://x.com/nixcraft/status/1770053566616760459?s=20
real
cedar kite
molten flame
tranquil goblet
Hello everyone has there been any updates for the series x due the game crashing, tbh I did not want to risk it but love the new map hopefully it be working right soon
oblique mulch
I bought bf 2042 because of the discount and i have a gtx1660 super with a Intel Core i5 8:e gen. 8400 gpu and it lags like hell, am i limited due to my cpu and should i return it or is it fixable?
pale quartz
I bought bf 2042 because of the discount and i have a gtx1660 super with a Intel...
it's not fixable you are hardware limited, you'd need to upgrade the processor yes
oblique mulch
I got a prebuild Lenovo, could i just buy a cpu and install it and be good to go?
pale quartz
no you'd need a new motherboard
oblique mulch
So im basically better of getting an entire new pc? 😭
pale quartz
yes essentially
oblique mulch
Because ingame its like 100 cpu usage and thats not fixable with priorities or other settings?
Cuz ive had some issues with other games aswell with high cpu usage and have heard abt bottlenecking but tbh i dont even know how to spot a bottleneck
pale quartz
Because ingame its like 100 cpu usage and thats not fixable with priorities or o...
no it's not you are core limited
the game doesn't have enough cores on your system to rasterise the framerate the GPU is targeting
what you can do is cap the framerate entirely to say 60 to decrease utilisation, but you're not fixing the problem, the only way to do that is to upgrade it
oblique mulch
Welp.. Thanks for the help, ill see what ill do.
molten flame
Twitter
Zen 2 CPU is not enough for 60 fps on PS5 Pro
Another example of lazy development
candid flame
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1770526000528392426
the trailer was on FSR ultra performance
it's taking them how long now, 6 years?
molten flame
It's amazing that the Xbox One and PS4 are capable of running Red Dead Redemption 2 despite having a trash old Jaguar CPU that's slower than a FX-8100
PS5 CPU is literally like 5X faster than PS4 lmao
But developers lost their touch in recent years
pale quartz
zen 2 has shit IPC don't be surprised
molten flame
Zen 2 is light years ahead of Bulldozer/Piledriver though lol
pale quartz
they didn't lose touch the games just downscaled on the old consoles to 720p/600p half the time to maintain performance
or 30 frames
the new consoles are still underpowered though, nothing changes
eager egret
PC2 will kill PC1
PC2 what did i miss?
ivory creek
what is pc2? a highly optimised new OS and 5090? 😄
anyway i hope my 3090 will run gta6 with some dlss. i probably wont be upgrading in a while
lost cargo
pc2 is in development xD
turbid verge
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1770526000528392426
I kinda wanna know who are the tech experts, sounds like they know nothing about it
pale quartz
I kinda wanna know who are the tech experts, sounds like they know nothing about...
digital foundry is one of the gold standards in regards to reviewing games, they do
turbid verge
so in a way
they never saw the source code or even got their hands of a running demo in the console
so in other words
Source: Trust me bro
I love that
pale quartz
the ps5 pro dev kit has been leaked publicly that is why we know what to expect, it's a minor upgrade over the ps5, so performance will not be that that different
turbid verge
they're tools for the final product
Plus considering optimization at this time is not even considered
ivory creek
wont the ps5 pro have new upscaling tech tho
pale quartz
the SDK is what the developers use for building their games in preparation for the console's release, it has the technical specifications included within it, it's only a clock difference, the hardware is identical otherwise
pale quartz
wont the ps5 pro have new upscaling tech tho
yes but this is a CPU limitation, not a GPU limitation
turbid verge
literally a thing you should never speculate is performance when the game isnt even out, there's no demo's about, plus game is still in development. Idk why people even speculate at this time 
you forgot to mention they dont run release version until very late stages
they'll run debug and even test builds and tends to be a mess in performance
pale quartz
that's not this lol, GTA 6 is coming out next year, it will already be pretty much finished
there's nothing wrong with speculation, he's just saying don't be surprised if it doesn't, it's not a wrong argument
turbid verge
yeh not shit. My point is dev kits aren't your final product, they're machines used to run versions or builds that arent meant to be final
molten flame
PS5 Pro is literally just a graphics upgrade
turbid verge
yet not my point
molten flame
CPU is only clocked like 0.3 GHz higher
pale quartz
the tldr is this is GTA and simulations are everything for performance, that is the processor is heavily influential for performance, the speculation he is making is not wrong because as noted the ps5 pro is not different for this in a way that matters, if it doesn't hit 60 on the base ps5 it won't hit it either on the pro
pale quartz
they may use dsr or some other technique to get it to target we have no idea but speculating on this isn't incorrect, the console hardware on the processor side is extremely bad related to today
turbid verge
Until then you wont know. Rockstar doesnt even tell what's their minimal requirements the games needs to run at
and I dont even mean FPS only
pale quartz
there is no minimum requirements, this is consoles
molten flame
Xbox Series and PS5 CPU only have 4MB of L3 cache lol
turbid verge
Iam not talking hardware wise 
pale quartz
the PC version isn't coming out at launch its the console version only
molten flame
PC version is at least 6 months later but probably more like a year
turbid verge
Xbox Series and PS5 CPU only have 4MB of L3 cache lol
pretty much, but doesnt stop anyone from make a good game and run at actually good performance rates
turbid verge
PC version is at least 6 months later but probably more like a year
Most liekly an year since its a port 
pale quartz
the game isn't being ported, it's delayed intentionally
pale quartz
rockstar don't cross release on launch for GTA so people buy on more than one platform
turbid verge
game physics are getting too intense for CPU limits
I can agree and disagree, but its a very good debatable argument
physics are a bitch to work with, but usually its how well you can optimize physics. So its more down who writes them and manages it then if the CPU can or can't
pale quartz
optimisation doesn't particularly matter zen 2 is equivalent to 8th gen in IPC, it was already dated by 2020 standards nevermind today, the hardware is physically terrible and there's only so much you can work with in such confines
there is a gulf of 40% or more between zen 2 and 4 for single core performance
turbid verge
devs who dont consider optimizations for their games they have no graphical computing experience at all
no wonder City Skylines turned out how it did
pale quartz
it's not graphical related, this is simulated compute, they are very different things
pale quartz
the GPU isnt used for the parts of the game that actually matters for GTA, it has always been a processor (cache bound) game
molten flame
there is a gulf of 40% or more between zen 2 and 4 for single core performance
like 50-55% difference in 1080p gaming performance between 3700X and 7700X given the IPC and clockspeed differences
pale quartz
I'm not counting the X3D parts but that sounds roughly accurate
is around 50% I vaguely recall by normal
pale quartz
it's always been a dated architecture, the consoles realistically had nothing else they could use, but they suffer for it today
Sonys problem is they need to keep base costs low so if they switch the architecture that disappears, it's already probably going to cost 600 for the pro and they have stated they can't reduce the base one further in price where it is already
molten flame
Zen 2 still being manufactured today for OEM stuff because it's very cheap to make
good enough for casual users
pale quartz
yeah I mean it's useful for ted who wants to have a pre built pc to read emails, not so much for anything else
pale quartz
for now, won't be for long
molten flame
I have a Intel N100 which is just a CPU with 4 E-cores, no P-cores at all lol
pale quartz
e cores are very good for single core relative to hyper threading going away as tech, it won't be long before they're faster than zen 2 in single core, is just a case of managing scheduling
molten flame
E-cores aren't good at being main cores
the N100 is slower than my old FX-6300 in games like runescape and minecraft
it runs those games at like 15 fps
pale quartz
they're not designed for it, it's like running a atom on a game
molten flame
opening a browser will peg the CPU at 100% utilization for like 10 seconds
pale quartz
not surprised
molten flame
E-cores should only be used for running things in the background
maiden tartan
I got an issue, the mode selection picture cannot be displayed, all of them are black. someone has the same like me?
molten flame
ain't no way RTX 5090 will have only 28 Gbps lmao
I think it will have at least 32 Gbps
ivory creek
the nvidia app is starting to annoy me
for some reason it keep setting rtx hdr to on as global setting
over and over
even tho i set it to off
pale quartz
it's a beta app lol
ivory creek
toxic wigeon
Is this the thing where it optimises the cores for the games?
ivory creek
yeah
i read in a forum that it make huge difference in some games too
i hope amd stay with all highperforming cores so we dont have to think so much
😄
toxic wigeon
Haha yeah
molten flame
I know someone already rma ing their 14900ks to reroll lol
Data of 25 different 14900KS bins
They can't expect much tbh
pale quartz
isn't to do with the quality, just a QA issue
and why you always use the correct cables
nocturne drift
Nah f that evga GT killed my 3090 fe before.
Also horizon forbidden west is soo good.
W pc port.
I have everything maxed dlss quality at 155-220 fps
Don't even need dlss 3
edgy hull
How expensive is it for me to install two Ethernet ports in my apartment?
ivory creek
try to get a group deal, can be really expensive to have fiber dragged to your complex otherwise
prime jasper
How expensive is it for me to install two Ethernet ports in my apartment?
do you already have one port??/
pale quartz
it's not a screw, the PCIe slot has a clip you need to press down on to release the card
what is the motherboard?
ehm, well is it a pre built or a old office machine or something
is the brand logo on the case, it should be there
do you know how old it is roughly?
yeah go ahead, I'm trying to find the board but I think it's proprietary so you'll need to
pale quartz
(issue is fixed incase other people are reading the chat)
midnight crypt
Now im curious what the issue was
pale quartz
the bracket was stuck to the case with a external connector, was relatively easy to solve
pale quartz
as i said a bit ago, unless people want the pro to cost $700, they have little choice
lost cargo
Atleast Xbox will be working on next gen console soon after their mid gen refresh
I wanna see how big that performance leap is for the next Xbox gen console in the future
But the series mid gen refresh looks nice tho ngl
edgy hull
do you already have one port??/
No, not yet
ivory creek
700 wouldnt be too bad, still cheaper than a highend graphics card and thats for a complete system
pale quartz
700 wouldnt be too bad, still cheaper than a highend graphics card and thats for...
eh not really
7800xt is like 500 nowadays and a 4070 is roughly the same price, gre is just slightly higher
open nebula
brave sundial
700 wouldnt be too bad, still cheaper than a highend graphics card and thats for...
The problem is convincing gamers to get it
burnt coyote
i dont even have a reason to get a normal ps5 let alone a ps5 pro
especially in australia $700 usd would be over 1000 aud in australia
i dont see people paying that for a console
thorn flame
I dont know if this is the right channel but: My XSX hard crashes when I play 2042. It just fully shuts off, anyone else have this problem?
edgy hull
I sometimes have it. But I will say that it gets better whenever I take popular measures to improve gaming performance like getting a monitor with AMD FreeSync (to allow for variable refresh rate). Next, I’m going to hire an electrician to install Ethernet ports into my apartment so I can have better internet
frigid condor
Is it just me or is frame gen broken? Last time I checked was a month ago, and the fps difference was close to zero
pale quartz
Is it just me or is frame gen broken? Last time I checked was a month ago, and t...
2042 doesn't use frame generation
frigid condor
Then what the hell is future frame rendering
pale quartz
future frame rendering is predictive scheduling of frames, it's used to balance the CPU load
frigid condor
I see, guess that settles it
toxic wigeon
I thought they stopped doing xt CPUs.
pale quartz
is free money for near dead dies
pale quartz
just a way to fish money from gullable buyers
molten flame
candid flame
cutdown version made for the chinese market
brave sundial
oh so like the intel black editions
brave sundial
lost cargo
GRE edition for 10% performance, it reminds me of the ps5 pro. They really tryna make ez money kek
flint pewter
im running a i7 4770 with a gtx 1660 ti 512 gb ssd and 16 gb of ram. whenever i play BF2042 it says 98 to 100 cpu usage am i bottlenecking ? is it safe to keep playing it?
i know its an old cpu but still
digital hill
If the temp is fine then yes its safe
its only when the temp is above the threshold
then its unsafe
you are bottlenecking
unless the gpu usage is near 100%
but the cpu is a bottleneck and yoyu aren't fully using the gtx 1660ti
flint pewter
the gpu says like 47 percent
flint pewter
is it still safe to run?
flint pewter
sweet.
digital hill
also check temps and make sure its fine
flint pewter
i think last time i played it was around 60c
flint pewter
ight. well looks like its not overheating
pale quartz
its not, the thermal delta is 95
digital hill
its not, the thermal delta is 95
what about tcase?
pale quartz
tcase doesnt matter
digital hill
alright, if you say then yeah @flint pewter your fine, just expect lower settings
pale quartz
the processor will adjust its clocks and voltage to retain a certain temperature, nothing is "overheating" unless it exceeds 95
modern ether
how do you uninstall the ea app
digital hill
Open up control panel, go to unistall program and ea app
digital hill
oh, is it on steam
modern ether
no
digital hill
That link is a bit sus, can you just dm the screenshot of your cocntrol panel
modern ether
i cant open battlefield 4 and newer because of the ea app
modern ether
That link is a bit sus, can you just dm the screenshot of your cocntrol panel
its a screenshot
digital hill
post the screenshot of control panel
modern ether
they couldn't help
flint pewter
the processor will adjust its clocks and voltage to retain a certain temperature...
so as long as my cpu temp is under 95 im good?
pale quartz
yes
just dont be expecting good performance, and expect possible stuttering/jittering in matches
flint pewter
just dont be expecting good performance, and expect possible stuttering/jitterin...
it runs fine i get like 100 fps. it just says 98 to 100 cpu usage. ill boot it up and moniter the temps tho
flint pewter
just dont be expecting good performance, and expect possible stuttering/jitterin...
i plan on upgrading to a i7 12700k in the near future
pale quartz
as i said expect those things to happen with what you have currently
flint pewter
as i said expect those things to happen with what you have currently
i know its just after recently becoming a memeber of the pc master race i just cant play fps games on console anymore. they dont feel right
i would but ps5 doesnt have KbM support for battlefield
pale quartz
i know its just after recently becoming a memeber of the pc master race i just c...
platform elitism is cringe lol
flint pewter
lol true
brave sundial
i know its just after recently becoming a memeber of the pc master race i just c...
'master race' when they need to spend $1000 to have performance as good as a $400 console
No such thing as best platform, they all have their own advantages and disadv
flint pewter
No such thing as best platform, they all have their own advantages and disadv
you can build a 500$ pc that beats ps5 and xbox. also technically pc is best but i dont care what ppl play on. im not super into that. but pc is technically the best.
its annoying. dont get me wrong.
pale quartz
you can build a 500$ pc that beats ps5 and xbox. also technically pc is best but...
no you cant
flint pewter
no you cant
you can. linus tech tips did it
pale quartz
that video is misleading its not equivalent to the consoles
they use custom NVMe drives which on pc if you try to match that cost a fortune
flint pewter
they use custom NVMe drives which on pc if you try to match that cost a fortune
i just went to amazon. you can get a really good nvme for like 90 bucks
pale quartz
again it doesnt match them
you want to match the ps5 nvme drive enjoy paying 200 or more
flint pewter
again it doesnt match them
if you say so. also you dont even need a nvme. im using a SATA drive. works great. but we will just agree to disagree.
pale quartz
i have a pc which physically cant be upgraded because its using top of the line components
if you want to match the consoles you need a nvme, its not optional
flint pewter
i have a pc which physically cant be upgraded because its using top of the line ...
thats your problem then. im using like a 300 or 400 dollar pc. one simple cpu upgrade and i can beat a ps5 or xbox.
the best component i have is the 1660ti
pale quartz
no you cant lol, your gpu doesnt even come close to the consoles
they have equivalent to a 6700xt in performance, you are around 40-50% off
flint pewter
no you cant lol, your gpu doesnt even come close to the consoles
if you say so. when even a ps5 cant even run raytracing without going under 30 fps. but a rtx 2060 is like 160 bucks
plus i can run games that even ps5 and consoles dont even have. that already beats it
flint pewter
it can run RT at higher than 30?
not true RT. cyberpunk RT only allows 30 fps
flint pewter
and no you still lose strictly lol
not so. is total war on consoles? nope. what about arma 3? squad? mods? barely
pale quartz
not true RT. cyberpunk RT only allows 30 fps
yes and countless other games dont dude
spiderman for example has global illumination and runs at 60 frames
flint pewter
yes and countless other games dont dude
you just proved my point. you can get a pc with a rtx 2060 and a good cpu and play cyberpunk at 60 fps with RT all without paying over 600
pale quartz
you cant run "RT all" on a 2060 lol
because the 2060 is shit for raytracing
if you enable GI on a 2060 in cyberpunk enjoy playing at 20 frames
or path tracing
flint pewter
because the 2060 is shit for raytracing
thats true but you can still activate it and run it at 60 fps. UNLIKE PS5
flint pewter
but its not equivalent to the consoles
bro ps5 doesnt even have pathtracing. its just basic RT. you cant even customize your graphic settings on console. your lucky to even set a fps limityer
pale quartz
so what?
you cant run path tracing either and neither can a 2060
why does it matter?
flint pewter
so. my point being a less then 600 dollar pc is way better then ps5 cuz you can run basic RT at 60 fps if not better with better looking resolution
pale quartz
path tracing, is not basic RT
you understand this yes
you cant turn on PT a 2060, its not powerful enough
flint pewter
neither can a ps5
pale quartz
and why is this relevant?
flint pewter
OMG
ill try to say this like im talking to a 5th grader. both a 2060 and ps5 cant use pathtracing. but both can use basic RT right? well the pc could run it more then 60 fps. ps5 is locked at 30. now which is better?
flint pewter
bro i looked it up you can use a rtx 2060 have raytracing and get over 60 fps
your wrong again
flint pewter
no, it cant lol
this isnt accurate
flint pewter
**you are looking at dlss**
hmm does ps5 have dlss? oh thats right it doesnt.
pale quartz
yes it doesnt
thats the point
native the 2060 doesnt hit 30 frames
so it loses, to the consoles, at native, i hope you understand that
flint pewter
so it loses, to the consoles, at native, i hope you understand that
even at native it can. bro. fine you wanna do this? RTX 3060. you can get one for about 160 bucks maybe 170. still better
pair it with a decent cpu still under 600
pale quartz
ok? lol im not particularly interested in whatever hardware combo you have
flint pewter
i think im losing braincells talking to you right now lol
pale quartz
you think this is some competition i was just telling you that you were wrong
you can buy a gpu that beats the consoles yes, the 2060 isnt one of them
flint pewter
you think this is some competition i was just telling you that you were wrong
and im telling you your wrong. you can build a under 600$ pc thats beats ps5
pale quartz
flint pewter
we need a 3rd opinion
pale quartz
no we dont
flint pewter
yep cuz you seem to not get it
pale quartz
you can buy a gpu that beats the consoles yes, the 2060 isnt one of them
^
please read
flint pewter
i did. and i gave up arguing with you so i switched to a 3060
which at around the same price can beat ps5
pale quartz
then whats the contention? a 3060 beats the consoles
flint pewter
the contention is that you said you cant build a 500$ pc that beats consoles
pale quartz
specification for specification, yes you cant, because as i said for the fourth time now, the nvme on pc for that equivalent is around 40% of the $500 "budget"
please dont make me say it for a 5th time
flint pewter
again i found another that beats ps5 for 99 bucks
so yes you can get one without paying a fortune
pale quartz
do you even know what nvme the ps5 uses? lol
flint pewter
pale quartz
sorry to break it to you my guy but the ps5 one is better than that
toxic wigeon
The Series X and Ps5 are really damn good for their price range. You can't really build a PC that's better nowadays for under that price.
pale quartz
read what? lol
flint pewter
the link
pale quartz
.. the digital foundry one, which is testing ps5 nvme drives.. not pc?
flint pewter
you can buy a better ssd then the ps5 for 100 bucks
toxic wigeon
The SSD's for current gen are really good in themselves.
flint pewter
it literally says available for pc outperforms ps5
pale quartz
expensive as shit too for pcie gen 5
pale quartz
it literally says available for pc outperforms ps5
you need to understand what a nvme drive is
because googling for these isnt going to help you here
the ps5 drive has a custom architecture which uses a 4 way lane system for queuing data, those drives do not exist on pc except for high end premium ones launched at the quarter end of 2021
the one you linked, doesnt use this either, youre just googling for stuff which makes no sense for this
flint pewter
because googling for these isnt going to help you here
bro. its like talking to a brick wall here. also end of 2021? you realize you can get a nvme after 2021 for not much right?
toxic wigeon
YUS
toxic wigeon
<@267109533388636160> zen 5 announcement is coming soon
X3D chips delayed as always yeah?
pale quartz
uhh im not certain on if the x3d is delayed till after, if so it wont be long
toxic wigeon
Yeah
It feels weird to be on the horizon of a 9000 series announcement.
I'm really excited to see how things would improve by the time they're readily available.
B750, DDR5, Etc.
pale quartz
ddr5 is very cheap currently, wont get much cheaper
pale quartz
there wont be, not a massive one anyways
toxic wigeon
Probably teetering at the edge to be honest.
pale quartz
clock speeds are limited by the IMC on zen, not memory
zen 5 isnt a huge change from zen 4 for that
toxic wigeon
Yeah true. Cause doesn't the 7000x3d series have a 6000 MHZ limit?
pale quartz
its not a wall but 6000 is guaranteed to work for zen 4
anything above that isnt guaranteed, you can do it though
toxic wigeon
I swear I remember you mentioning something like that.
But I guess really 6000 MHZ is the fairest you could go for.
pale quartz
games dont see any benefit from higher clock speeds anyways, so its essentially meaningless
you can run jedec ddr5 speeds and youre still going to get 95% of whatever the xmp gets
toxic wigeon
So really what, Just run the same kit you did previously?
Do you see yourself going to the 9000 series or just sitting on your own chip for a while? You have so many cores, So much l3 cache.
pale quartz
ive got a 7950x3d, if the price is right ig maybe, but its not a massive priority for me
toxic wigeon
Ye
If there are any ram manufacturers you would recommend against, Who would it be?
pale quartz
ones that arent actual brands, other than that it doesnt matter
ddr5 kits are all roughly the same
pale quartz
only thing you should be aware of is buy a dual kit of whatever size you are wanting, dont buy 2x2 sticks
toxic wigeon
I remember you mentioning something against Corsair when I was making my PC so I'm kinda weary about them.
Oh keep to 2 sticks.
Got it.
pale quartz
corsair for ddr4, specifically vengeance, the rest of their kits are fine
toxic wigeon
Jeez louise DDR4 is fucking nothing.
Ye that's fair.
Not going for an ASUS Mobo that's for sure haha
pale quartz
yeah avoid asus boards, rest are fine
pale quartz
you wont
the next gen boards arent going to be better in a way that matters to you compared to what exists already
toxic wigeon
Guess so.
pale quartz
they already have pcie 5.0, massive amounts of nvme slots etc, the next chipset is just a minor change over current
molten flame
Not much QC issues with DDR5 kits compared to DDR4
Like there really isn't many DDR5 kits/models to avoid
Typical mid-range B650 motherboards are more feature rich than any high-end AM4 chipset
Though you might find more USB ports on the I/O plate of some X570 boards but that's about it
When I look for a motherboard these days I just look at what Audio codec it uses and number of fan connectors and their location
toxic wigeon
I know for sure that the 9800x3d will consume more power than the 7800x3d - I just hope it won't be significant enough.
In before the 9800x3d is some damn mess of a chip.
ivory creek
is there any wrong with the asus rog b550 motherboards i should know about and maybe change some setting in bios? i bought one after my x570 broke and their prices had increased way too much
i just saw that it had a good vrm and bought it
all seem to run fine tho, without any crashing or instability
but ye its been a while now so everything is probably fine
also , people over at another computerforum are telling me to use the built in bios options to undervolt the 5800x3d. that it benifit alot
but someone here told me not to
ivory creek
apparently its safe from bios but u should never use any software
if u do it right i guess
nocturne drift
If there are any ram manufacturers you would recommend *against*, Who would it b...
I overclock ddr5 and I avoid gskill
Poor cooling on the pcim
4090 is sooo cool btw
My fan speed never go above 60% because the gpu never go above 60c unless I push it really hard.
I'm just blown away by the power draw with a vbios flash 1.1v overvolt
I get to enjoy Horizon forbidden west 160-200+ fps dlss quality at 1440p all max settings.
nocturne drift
If there are any ram manufacturers you would recommend *against*, Who would it b...
So I would recommend anything hynix A die. Very common is 6000 cl30, I would avoid micron die they wall around 5200. You will see kits are 5200 cl40. Samsung die is around 6000 cl36
Also I have static pinned over 14 zen2 and zen3 cpu from degradation on ltt discord, pcmr discord and in real life. This is going crazy. I started ignoring it cause there are sooo many. Sucks for them.
toxic wigeon
I just care for Cl30 6000MHZ+
I just don't know the average you'd for for DDR5.
so I'm basing it off cl30 6000mhz
dry pike
My 6400mhz cl 32 is finally running well with my new motherboard. Not touching them again ^^
ivory creek
if you search on it theres alot of hits from people who get really good results from undervolting the 5800x3d
im tempted to
pale quartz
if you search on it theres alot of hits from people who get really good results ...
do not undervolt it
the voltage is capped so it can't boost higher than it's factory, you will have instability if you try to UV it, leave it at stock
ivory creek
i guess ill find out, i did a slight decrease. seem stable so far tho. thanks for the reply anyway
red storm
corsair for ddr4, specifically vengeance, the rest of their kits are fine
what's wrong with corsair vengeance line of ram sticks? and what's wrong with asus motherboards?
pale quartz
what's wrong with corsair vengeance line of ram sticks? and what's wrong with as...
their bins are not guaranteed to run at their defined specifications because the components are constantly swapped to save money, Asus boards overvolt hardware by default which can (and has) cause the processor to degrade faster as it's outside factory specifications
in the case of certain x3d processors cause them to die entirely fairly shortly
red storm
Ah I see 👀 thanks for letting me know
pale quartz
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lost cargo
I undervolt my 3080 and it’s more cooler at the same performance. I never have an issue undervolting it
Unless your talking about CPU then I haven’t touch CPU yet
toxic wigeon
their bins are not guaranteed to run at their defined specifications because the...
Seeing x3d chips blown up from the inside caused me so much fucking pain.
pale quartz
A long while
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/03/tech/flying-car-faa/index.html
few years, at most
lost cargo
Watch the prototype fail
pale quartz
the technology is actually pretty far along than most assume, it's only a matter of time till they're certified for driving
lost cargo
It’s gonna be hella expensive. Millionaires prob can’t afford it
midnight crypt
now you just gotta get a pilots license to drive your car
lost cargo
Since it’s electric. The charging to full is finna be hella slow
pale quartz
?
lost cargo
The battery have to be hella big right?
pale quartz
nope
lost cargo
pale quartz
flying cars aren't like planes, they don't use an engine for propulsion, they rely on the aerodynamics of the car itself to maintain a cruising state
lost cargo
So it takes fuel 
pale quartz
no, the parts that need to be powered are the interswitching of the wings and driving on the ground
not the air
the concept isn't particularly new and has been around for eons now, there just wasn't a way to do it at scale in a economic way till recently
lost cargo
So it flies like an airplane for takeoff?
pale quartz
yes to gain altitude it has to use the engine for propulsion, once it's in the air it switches off, etc
pale quartz
the consumption isn't going to be anything marginally different to an electric car driving on a road
you misunderstand that an engine is there to overcome friction for motion, on a road the friction is the tire creating resistance with the ground, there is none of that in the air
lost cargo
Just make it hybrid
pale quartz
realistically aviation related stuff was always the next frontier, it just makes the most practical sense for solving capacity issues, we already have jetpacks and the like, vehicles are the next thing
wet notch
pale quartz
it's safer than driving on the road, if that counts for much