technology

[candid flame]

get a 7900xt and overclock it

[midnight crypt]

havent heard of any big gains by OCing amd gpus

[pale quartz]

the clock gains are significant, but so is the power draw

in pure raster an overclocked xtx will outperform a 4090, but you blow out the power budget in the process

[prime jasper]

Is there more examples of OC xtx matching a 4090, I already know of the techpowerup result

But not anything else

[pale quartz]

there isn't just examples of it matching, but outright beating it

but note a caveat, in that this is why you need to be careful cross comparing cards

the 4090 will lose, and pretty hardly to the xtx at 1080p because of nvidias driver overhead which compromises the card, not because the card is less powerful, e.g. in Hogwarts legacy, direct cross comparing resolution's with overclocking is even more of a minefield because games are not built to match both architectures

nvidias driver overhead will become more of a headache for users as time goes on, the main raster will only become more saturated with time

[prime jasper]

I assume a driver overhead is the result of the driver having to account for multiple architectures?

[pale quartz]

not exactly

it crops up in CPU limited situations mostly, you will not encounter it up until that point, and the penalty is significant, at around 15-20% of the end base performance

CPU limited can be IPC or cache bound, it depends on the game

tldr is there is a heavy penalty for only upgrading your card and not the processor on Nvidia

[prime jasper]

I'll watch the hub video on it

[pale quartz]

https://youtu.be/G03fzsYUNDU is the main video you're looking for, the results on hogwarts legacy specifically are even more severe

it's often why abnormal results like a 6700xt beating a 3090 at 1080p/1440p crops up every now and again, which should absolutely never happen

or this:

[nocturne drift]

only in select game. when gpu bound 4090 is the fastest gpu in anything, nothing comes close.

but yes nvidia kinda streamline alot of the work to the cpu while amd goes to the gpu. so when cpu bound, amd should be better, like 1080p with a high end card.

but with a fast cpu and 1440-4k and you shift to gpu bound 4090 has no competition outside of select games.

my co workers and friend want me to buy Star Wars to test the game on my PC

I aint spending no $ LOL

[prime jasper]

Buy an ryzen and get the game

[nocturne drift]

CPU?

[prime jasper]

Yes

Its bundled with ryzen 7000

[nocturne drift]

hmmm maybe my friend might get it LOL

i dont think his budget allows for a new 7000 cpu

[nocturne drift]

Just saw a video of a guy making 2080ti 22g of vram and 3070 to 16g LOL

[plucky token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiTngvvD5dI&ab_channel=GamersNexus

[prime jasper]

rip

[quick locust]

Kaboom

[misty coral]

Hi can i ask for some advice?

I have i5 9400f,
and my gpu sucks.
i need to buy a gpu for this setup.
low budget so cant really upgrade other
components

shortly asking for the best gpu for my cpu

[candid flame]

how much do you have

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R4tKHx/powercolor-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-red-dragon-oc-video-card-axrx-6800xt-16gbd6-3dhroc

[primal pier]

The urge to ping nyphon is high

[misty coral]

I dont know how i can turn it into dollars

[candid flame]

euro

[misty coral]

No

Uhh

[candid flame]

zloty?

[misty coral]

Turkish lira

[candid flame]

just get an AMD card

[misty coral]

I can afford 5700xt

Dont worry about the price

Tell me what i should buy

[candid flame]

5700xt is not a bad card

[midnight crypt]

rtx 4090

[candid flame]

you could get an intel Arc 770

cheap, powerful

[misty coral]

I'll look

for that

1 min

[midnight crypt]

also performs like ass in older games

[candid flame]

new driver gives it a huge boost now

[midnight crypt]

on a select few titles yes

[misty coral]

Its like an exotic card in my country idk why

Idk but ill probably buy 5700xt unless there's better amd card for my cpu

[candid flame]

amd 6000 cards are better, check if you can get a 6750xt for around the same price

[misty coral]

Okay ill look into that

Thanks

Wow, i dont know why but there's 5-7 thousand turkish lira difference

Nvm thanks for your help i'll buy 5700xt

Have a great day

[candid flame]

does Nvidia shaperning affect FPS?

[sly grotto]

Reply to <#technology message>:

Yes, Nvidia's Sharpening feature can affect FPS to some extent. Enabling Sharpening on your Nvidia graphics card may result in a slight drop in FPS, but the impact is generally not significant. Additionally, how much Sharpening affects FPS depends on your graphics card's capability and the game you're playing. So, it's best to experiment with the feature and find the optimal setting that suits your preference without sacrificing too much performance.

[candid flame]

thanks

[pale quartz]

aside from the generic response from the useless bot, NIS is performed in the driver post rendering stage of the pipeline, so it doesn't have an effect on a game's interal render framerate, but can affect the number you see

[candid flame]

so it doesn't matter?

[pale quartz]

basically yes, but it can cause what you might call morphing

e.g. the internal render rate and the driver rate aren't the same so motion can appear as not fluid or textures can appear messy, it's not guaranteed to happen per game but something to watch out for

[candid flame]

ah, okey, thanks

[crude pewter]

Someone explain why my game feels like 30FPS when it says 100

On 2042

[tired notch]

is ur monitor and windows set to display at 100fps?

[crude pewter]

Yeah 144hz

[manic shuttle]

Hey guys i need help i have an average setup and got every settings on low but everytime fps gets lower than 60 game starts to lag so bad with the yellow boxes on top left. The game is still smooth but lags ( like people teleporting and everything is delayed). My latency is also stable 40ms I don’t understand how a 5 frames drop would do all this

[lofty light]

!!warningicons

[silent oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/591426310317015072/592201789403693096/syvzV.png

[manic shuttle]

im getting the low fps icon but my fps is not going below 50 yet game is unplayable because of the movement delays and players teleportation like i have 1000ms ping.

[crude pewter]

Yeah ur input does get delayed if you have a lower frame rate

Ur game will spike lag in crazy situations or sometimes when u shoot ur weapon.

If your system is getting less than 60FPS on any battlefield game you should be expecting these issues.

Sounds like a cpu problem

I’m not an expert but this is my own experience im sharing with u

If it’s battlefield your struggling with then it’s more than likely your CPU as battlefield games are CPU intensive, I’m on a 8 core 12mb cache i7 9700k and a RTX 4070 and I get like 80 on 2042 💀

[manic shuttle]

Thanks for the help. I just realized this is not tech support so my bad for asking here anyways. I don't have any issues with other battlefields its just with 2042. kinda sad that if i dont achieve a certain fps value the game just wouldn't work. i even wouldn't mind slideshow if it wasn't for delays and teleportation which makes it unplayable.

[crude pewter]

What’s your cpu?

[manic shuttle]

i7-9750H with RTX 2060

[midnight crypt]

oof laptop

[candid flame]

i7 10750h with 3060 here and struggling with 2042

[crude pewter]

2060 should be ok for medium settings 1080p but that cpu is due an upgrade, 6 cores isn’t enough.

I struggle with 8 cores

4070 can’t even do ultra settings lol

I had an i5 9400f 6 core on 2042 and I was experiencing the same problems as u till I got the i7 8 core

[candid flame]

my 3060 can run ultra, gpu fps is around 100 with ultra setting, but cpu fps is around 50-60 with highest mesh setting

the game is just really cpu heavy

[manic shuttle]

I guess im back to bfv then. I know its a laptop with relatively old specs for todays standards but i thought its gunna be playable like any other games i have. for me i don't mind low fps if it was consistent like battlefield 1 or 5.

Thanks everyone for heads up

[crude pewter]

It’ll be playable for most games but not 2042 or cyberpunk haha and np.

[crude pewter]

How tf? Thought the lower ur settings the higher cpu usage

How tf can’t I do ultra with 4070 then

High settings is no problem but ultra is low af

[candid flame]

probably your cpu is giving out, not your gpu

[crude pewter]

Fairly sure it’s low settings that kill cpu

Like on MWII I needed to go high so cpu wouldn’t burn out

[crystal gorge]

Will a 5800X3D & a 7900xtx work as a combo? Or is one of them the bottleneck?

[crude pewter]

Are they AMD CPUs?

[crystal gorge]

5800X3D is a cpu and 7900xtx is a gpu

[crude pewter]

Why go amd GPU?

Go nvidia

I’ll have a look later and see if they bottleneck

[crystal gorge]

price wise. good custom model of the 7900xtx is under 1000€. good custom model of the 4080 is +1300€

[candid flame]

also better performance lol

[crude pewter]

Yeah it shouldn’t bottleneck at 1440p or 4k

Although people recommend an i9 13900k with that GPU but I don’t know much about the pricing

[crystal gorge]

thx

[crude pewter]

Overall I just hate how AMD name their products like 7900xtx just messes with my head lol

[crystal gorge]

imagine, buying a xfx 7900 xtx

[nocturne drift]

Games are getting more cpu heavy.

People with zen2 are getting YEETED

But there is 5800X3D for u

[pale quartz]

you absolutely do not recommend a 13900k over a 5800x3d for battlefield lol

it is absolutely stomped by the L3 cache on the X3D, it's not a close competition

[mystic flax]

Definitely going to look into that arc770 from Intel. That 300$ price tag is going to hurt Nvidia.

[nocturne drift]

Wait what? 5800X 3D is not a competition against 13900k

Especially in 2042

That's 7800X 3D

[pale quartz]

no its not, cause the 13900k is an entirely different category of price tier

the price isnt close between both SKUs and its a non factor

[nocturne drift]

This is meant for 7800X 3D right?

[pale quartz]

no its not, i said he should not be recommending a 13900k over a 5800x3d for the user because they are different leagues of pricing and product

[nocturne drift]

Oh OK.

I picked 13900ks because it's the fastest in 2042 unquestioned when tuned, kinda took a L because I end up being gpu bound with 3090 at 1080p

https://youtu.be/oGTnuGav-0U

He is doing fine with 7800X 3D at expo.

People hating on hard to run games.

With their expo docp or xmp disabled.

Also my friends 9700k at 5ghz all core. 3200cl16 xmp with a 2080 super is doing fine. Man don't even have hyper threading

Why are people struggling that much

[molten flame]

Threadripper 5995WX now $1100

[toxic wigeon]

@sleek wraith Kay looking at it there are two options if you're willing to push it.
7800x3d for 450 USD.
13600 for 300 USD.

I'm looking at the microcentre so.

Prices might be a bit different.

I would personally recommend the x3d. But the 13600 is really good as a starter CPU.

[sleek wraith]

If a 7800x3d is better and it's only 50$ more ill buy it. What's the life expectancy before a better one comes out?

[toxic wigeon]

You're good until AMD brings out a 11800x3d which is only coming out in the next three to four years.

[sleek wraith]

Yeah see so 50$ more is worth it if lasts longer and is better

[toxic wigeon]

ye!

What GPU are you getting?

I can give you a good idea for the resolution you're going for.

[sleek wraith]

Can you send me a possible list of parts you would recommend for the base set up

Also I plan on get the 3070

[toxic wigeon]

Ah!

I can do like a theoretical build for you.

With the x3d.

[sleek wraith]

Sounds good man if you don't mind please

[toxic wigeon]

What resolution are you planning to play on. And what's your budget for your GPU?

[sleek wraith]

Anywhere from 1080 to 1440 and 650$

[toxic wigeon]

PERFECT.

Literally AMD's 6950x fits you perfectly.

@sleek wraith My storefront doesn't have the 6950x in stock but through the microcentre it shows that the 6950xt is right at 650 USD.

This is just my point of view though. The other tech nerds should ya as well.

[sleek wraith]

So this would be a water cooled system? Got it

[toxic wigeon]

Theoretically. It doesn't have to be water cooled but they mostly help in smaller cases. I went for that because I know that X3d can run hot.

My friend has a 7950x3d and it runs really hot.

And so his AIO keeps it cooled.

[sleek wraith]

Got it. I'll research the parts and figure out what's available near me and oder what I can for the time being. Hopefully I can have one built soon

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah. Ask Deco And Mazda some questions too.

They can help.

[sleek wraith]

Yeah will do. You also chose the exact motherboard I was looking at getting

[toxic wigeon]

Because of them I made my PC the way it is and I love it to bits. :)

LOL.

I just happen to have an MSI A PRO board as well so I went for brand familiarity!

[sleek wraith]

Msi has never steered me in the wrong direction except their smaller end monitors

But then again that's why I bought a bigger better one

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah despite their issues here and there they're definitely a brand I'd go for.

I've got an MSI monitor funny enough.

Had it for three years now and it's just been a brilliant monitor.

[sleek wraith]

I tried asus but not very reputable not to mention with my last pc when I had an issue the the MB I had a terrible time contacting customer support

They actually suck

[toxic wigeon]

I had a few ASUS laptops growing up so I've got a bit of positive bios towards them, But their recent track record be like. :/

AHHHH Thinking how underpowered hardware was back then ahahaha.

[sleek wraith]

Yeah I've heard their laptops are solid to okay but in terms of compnets for a desktop pc I wouldn't go for them.again

[toxic wigeon]

There was a very recent case of ASUS motherboards and exploding 7800x3d's.

Which is a result of a bug in their motherboards.

Which is fucking scary.

[sleek wraith]

Sounds about right

Just smother it in thermal paste problem solved

[toxic wigeon]

Hahaha.

Funny enough.

The explosions were internal.

So you're not gonna fix that unless you smother the insides with the stuff.

OH YEAH.

Don't go gigabyte for your power supply.

Cause their PSU's have literally exploded in the past.

[sleek wraith]

Yeah thermal paste fixes everything though

This is about to be me.

[toxic wigeon]

Of course.

[sleek wraith]

I'm joking btw

[toxic wigeon]

Christ.

Yeah.

[sleek wraith]

Then gotta give it a rinse

Make sure the comments are clean for a better connection

[toxic wigeon]

Heheh.

[sleek wraith]

But thanks way man I appreciate it. As soon as I wake up tomorrow I'm gonna look the parts and everything up to see what I can get ahold of

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah no worries. Like I said though be sure to ask Mazda and Deco about hardware as well as they know much more than me. Infact I think they'll look back at this convo and ping either of us most likely correcting and or continuing what we talked about.

[nocturne drift]

build is fine tbh

6950XT is a good choice

also u dont even need a 360mm aio to cool 7800X3D

5600 cl30 is good too cause super safe

for storage u can go for a cheaper gen 4 maybe

I see in the list is 980 non pro gen3?

[molten flame]

yeah 980 is gen3

and worse than 970

[toxic wigeon]

Oh yeah.

@sleek wraith Just leaving this here. For storage I'd recommend a 2 Tera SSD. I did the 1tb 980 because it's what I use and heavily pondering on getting more storage hahaha.

[oak ibex]

needs a little bit more

[pale quartz]

👋 had to catch up on the convo, long and short of it is storage wise get a sabrent rocket 2280 2tb gen 4 drive (SB-RKTQ4 is the model number) if you can on the second hand market, it's not that much more expensive and is significantly better than the 980 drive, on the GPU front the 6950xt is fine, but consider the 7900xt aswell, it's not that much more expensive and you will get significantly better RT performance and AV1 encoding than the 6950, I concur Mazda's point on the cooler and memory, you don't require 6000 memory with X3D so get CL305600, rest is fine

[rough scarab]

5600 28-34-34-89 is really cheap hynix so it gives you a good base at expo or you could oc it

[small zinc]

I don’t actually have anxiety until now. Thanks

[craggy pawn]

Anyone willing to explain why did the UK block the microsoft-activison blizzard merger?

[small zinc]

I would take Deco’s recommendation and take it a step further. Everyone seems to have this idea that the Phison controller is the “best”. That it is the only one that somehow can take advantage of the direct storage API ehen that just simply isn’t true. The SK Hynix P41 Platinum is hands down the fastest Gen 4 drive on the market currently. It not only outperforms Sabrent and Samsung 990 by a good margin, oh by the way it’s $156 on Amazon currently for thr 2TB making it cheaper than both Sabrent and Samsung. Oh by the way not only does it outperform every other drive currently, it uses 10 less watts than most other drive, which means zero throttling issues and no heat sink required.

[small zinc]

Long story short, they think it would hinder cloud gaming

Essentially a monopoly in Gamepass

Would probably also hurt sales of Call of Duty

[craggy pawn]

It's a bad development from a gamer's perspective

[nocturne drift]

5600 cl30 is hynix a die anyways.

And with all the bs new bios and vsoc lock now for a piece of mind. 5600 cl30 is great.

[molten flame]

might get 4070

[small zinc]

What’s funny is Zen 4 on 5600 is still faster than Raptor Lake on 7600

[small zinc]

I see the appeal in it to be honest. It’s a 3080 for $580 bucks

[molten flame]

3080 that draws 40% less power, if using 8-pin version

[small zinc]

Also that. TSMC > Samsung

[brave sundial]

Samsung finally had common sense and stop using their awful socs on their new phones

For now though, apparantly they're trying to reboot the whole thing

[sleek wraith]

Thank you guys by the way. If I have any more questions I'll be sure to ask you all

[nocturne drift]

I'm sorry but 4070 is bad.

Like u can get 6900xt or smth

Also someone in corsair discord said a tuned 13600k can beat 7800X 3D LOL. Yeah no.

13700k maybe.

How Nvidia made 4070 0% faster than 3080 is beyond me.

[brave sundial]

[nocturne drift]

Like right before 40 series launch 3090 for 600-650 second is hand is pretty common. The price didn't go down now but up by like 50 bucks after half a year.

The best bang for thr buck 2080ti in second hand market just now reach around 300-350 which is the same before 40 series launch

40 series did f all in the second market

[small zinc]

There isn't a single 13 series Raptor Lake up to and including a 13900KS that can beat any Zen 4 3D. Quit dreaming Mazda.

[nocturne drift]

All the 12 PC I built for my friend last year still holds 90-100% of their value. That's how crazy it is.

[small zinc]

You know what's funny Mazda? It's almost like it's his money and if Kristofer wants to buy a 4070, that it's almost like it's ok you know? I know it's weird that someone doesn't want a second hand GPU. Who cares if a 4070 isn't necessarily faster than a 3080. You said it yourself, it performs the same a 3080, but for $200 less dollars. It's also much more efficient since it's on TSMC's 5NM fab. Nothing you have suggested pretty much ever in this Discord has ever come to fruition.

People have been disregarding you almost completely.

I know you're also reading this. You'll continue to ignore me and pretend like you don't. But you 100% expand "1 Blocked Message" and read literally everything I type. 🙂

[storm osprey]

dude.. you legit gotta calm down on the mazda hate.. did he kill your parents or something?

[nocturne drift]

lol what? still? its been months

[prime jasper]

There's nothing wrong with someone buying the 4070 it's just I would recommend against it purely for the memory, 16gb should have better longevity

[storm osprey]

legit every time i look at this chat its you talking about something, and animalosity just ripping you and saying "i know you read this"

[small zinc]

No hate at all 🙂 I like spinning him up. He's the only one. He reads everything. He's even confirmed it with some of his replies

[nocturne drift]

oh lol. bruh its been so long I changed hobby lol.

[storm osprey]

whatever you want to call it, its petty and annoying, i basically dont participate in tech chat in large part because of it

[small zinc]

Kristofer was talking about buying it earlier in chat. Mazda was the one recommending against it. I was ripping Mazda for his dumbass suggestions.

[storm osprey]

you apparently live in his mind rent free.. what did you even do?

like intel?

[nocturne drift]

Me? Telling the truth from testing? tbh its been so long I forgot.

prob that

[small zinc]

Nah, I do know I live in his rent free, hence the replies you'll see from him in chat. I know I'm blocked, but he expands all my messages. Once he learns to stop replying to me through others is when I'll stop

😄

[storm osprey]

kind of hard to argue its the other way around when 90% of the time i look at this chat its mazda just talking general shit and its you directly replying to him giving him shit and he typically doesnt even reply to you...

[small zinc]

Not directly. But it's blatantly obvious he expands every message. Pretty convenient most of his replies. He 100% responds to something anything I type something that has nothing to do with him.

Just watch any of his messages in chat sometime. More specifically after I have typed something unrelated to him.

He thinks he's clever by trying to word it in a way that doesn't look obvious. He's failed every time.

[storm osprey]

"not directly"

But youve said his name 3 times today alone...

[small zinc]

Today? Yes.

I was calling him out on his dumbass suggestions over a 4070.

[storm osprey]

you can lie to yourself dude, i just recommend you grow up and move on

[small zinc]

Not lying? lol? I just admitted to it.

And yeah it's a bit immature admittedly. But as long as he continues to reply to me indirectly through others, I'll continue to live rent free in his mind and play his stupid game.

[nocturne drift]

bro wtf

lol still?

its been how many months now?

[small zinc]

Case in point. 🙂

[storm osprey]

you know hes reading my comments...

[small zinc]

Yeah he might be right now. But he also reads mine when you aren't "Mediating"

[storm osprey]

this is easily a case of harassment that can be reported to either modmail or even discord and likely something will come from it..

[small zinc]

Then report me if you feel you must.

Most of the time, I generally don't care.

And genuinely like partaking in tech chat

[storm osprey]

fortunately for you mazda either reads your comments and doesnt care enough to report you or he legit isnt paying attention, either way hes the bigger person here

[small zinc]

Nah he definitely reads my messages. He's made that clear (Today excluded of course).

[storm osprey]

i might get annoyed enough at some point to report you myself, imo youve single handedly killed tech chat

[small zinc]

Continuing to carry on like you are is what's also killing tech chat.

You know there's another way to handle this? DM's.

[storm osprey]

lol sure bud, i took 5 minutes to call out your bs and generally dont talk in here anymore at all, and im the reason tech chat sucks

[small zinc]

I suggest if you'd like to continue to complain about my behavior, you take it to a DM with me.

Otherwise move on? I generally do.

[storm osprey]

its concerning you might not understand how hypocritical that statement is..

[small zinc]

It's concerning you continue to carry it on when asked to DM or stop as well.

[storm osprey]

classic, we have reached the baseless "no u" stage

[quick locust]

[brave sundial]

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-popcorn-maker-cooking-snack-corn-gif-3390538

(im the popcorn maker)

[small zinc]

[prime jasper]

tekh

[quick locust]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Steam-April-2023-Numbers

[pine anchor]

Need help

Searching qhd monitor for 210€ cap

[pine anchor]

Is battlefield on Xbox series s 60fps cap?

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah.

2042 is on 60.

[pine anchor]

But at 1440p is still 60?

[toxic wigeon]

I'm not sure. Games on consoles run on a predetermined resolution.

[pine anchor]

Is a VA panel bad for online gaming

Ips is sometimes so expensive

[pale quartz]

no it's not

the consoles run at a dynamic resolution it is not static

[pine anchor]

That means

[rough scarab]

if the fps is low, the resolution lowers to try and counteract it

[pine anchor]

Okay

So no QHD at 60fps?

[pale quartz]

it's area dependent

it'll change dynamically by itself

[pine anchor]

Is it a good feature

[pale quartz]

well the consoles would be a stuttery mess without it so yes

I don't think you want random jumps between 30 and 60 frames when firing a weapon

[pine anchor]

Lol

[molten flame]

console CPUs only have 4MB of L3 cache

imagine if they did 3D cache on console

[toxic wigeon]

Jeez.

[molten flame]

double fps

just from cache alone

[pine anchor]

But qhd is a big step from fhd

[pale quartz]

it's also more demanding to run

[pale quartz]

not so easy

[molten flame]

pixels are easy to spot for me on a 1440p 27" monitor

[pale quartz]

the consoles use a custom variant of the board and adding cache on top has a high chance of needing a redesign of sonys liquid metal implementation

it isn't designed to handle a large slab of L3 on top

[molten flame]

xbox would have a better chance of implementing 3D cache than playstation

[pale quartz]

err yes but no

same issue just not liquid metal

adding L3 shifts the thermal constraints of where it can be cooled which is a large spanner with something like the dimensions of a console

there's no guarantee the TSVs would be kind to the temperature either

[molten flame]

the R&D would probably be too overwhelming

[pale quartz]

mostly not worth it unless there's some random ps5.5 version

[molten flame]

maybe they do console refresh with Zen 4/5 and RDNA3/3+

[pale quartz]

they've already sold tens of millions, it's a hard sell to get folks to buy what they would see as basically a slightly better version

[molten flame]

just add more GPU shaders and increase memory bandwidth

bigger die

[candid flame]

what do l1,l2,l3 caches do

why are they so tiny

[molten flame]

a lot to explain there

[pine anchor]

But a QHD Va panel is better then my fhd ips?

[pale quartz]

long story short yes

[pale quartz]

the level tier is used to prefetch instructions in a speed fast enough to be considered "real time"

[candid flame]

ah, special memory for CPU

because ram sucks

[pale quartz]

depending on the level it's anywhere from 400GB per second to 1TB per second in bandwidth rates

each tier is used for specific purposes because it's extortionately expensive to implement a lot of it, and there's a higher latency penalty for higher L2/L1 storage with traversing data buses

tldr is without it you wouldn't be able to have instant response times for opening software

[molten flame]

Zen 5 is said to double L2 cache again

L1 also

L1 and L2 doesn't seem to noticeably improve gaming tbh

[pale quartz]

it's architecture dependent

L3 is much more significant on ryzen because of the IF

L2 and L1 on intel because calls are made there more often

[small zinc]

Well, Not sure what 210 Euro equates to in USD, but it's going to be tough to find exactly what you're looking for. There are plenty of QHD monitors for under $200, however most of them are super cheap monitors. This is what I would recommend if you can swing it. I was trying to find a Dell or Alienware, but just not going to find a higher end quality in that price range. I've had MSI monitors before and they're pretty good for what you pay for them

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475283

It's a VA panel, so not quite as good as IPS

But I've had decent luck with MSI monitors and in your price range QHD's with specs like this aren't going to be beaten.

[nocturne drift]

Zen4 on console would be dope af. Right now PS5 is still using zen2 architecture.

Big azz imporvement if the game is cpu bound.

3D or not.

[storm osprey]

va panel in general not recommended for black smearing, thats why they are cheaper and IPS is more common

[formal oxide]

QHD VA you mean micro NANO Panel

[formal oxide]

Though the Xbox series S is way faster then the PS5 on Zen 2 Architecture and it’s like PS5 just manually Reserved

[formal oxide]

Yes though our Ultra Gear 240hz OLED is so much powerful a bit pricey though the Fast IPS QHD is smoother and cheaper costing at 500$ less then earlier updates from March

[pale quartz]

the RDNA implementation on both consoles is pretty difficult to cross compare

[quick locust]

Intel gpu goes brr

[pale quartz]

Sony did wonders with GPU decompression and their SSDs, but MS did well with kraken

[sleek aspen]

I just want a 256 core CPU

with 512 threads

Zen 5 architecture

don't care about the TDP

I'll hook up a nitrogen cooling block to it so I can clock it to 6ghz

[formal oxide]

256core I don’t think the servers are yet at that phase atleast you can still hit a double CPU at 64x Core at 2 or even 4 if your going to feel some use of technology in your own means of research atmost you’ll be at your finest with 256gb of ram and boom now you can buy double RTX 4090TI for maximum power and efficiency and you could overclock your entire network with these upgrades

[pale quartz]

256 cores was achieved long ago

nuvia are a hyperscaler that have built hundreds of ARM ISA configs

[nocturne drift]

I need some 10980XE OC.

More powa.

[molten flame]

get a used Xeon 3175X

I know someone who used 2 chillers to cool a 3175X at 5.6 GHz but with most cores disabled, think only 6 were active

[sleek aspen]

Let's bring the total wattage to 2000W

[nocturne drift]

2 PSUs

[sleek aspen]

No Sir

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-000N-00398?Description=2000w power supply&cm_re=2000w_power supply-_-9SIAUNCJMF2922-_-Product

There are 2000 W PSUs out there

They are only though for those brave enough to foot the eventual power bill

[nocturne drift]

Platinum too.

Trip house breaker ez

[molten flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284794210974957569/1103359196264665158/image.png

6950XT faster than 7900XTX and 4090 in Jedi Survivor at 1080p high settings

[nocturne drift]

Cpu bottlenecked

[molten flame]

also RDNA2 has practically no driver overhead

[nocturne drift]

Yep. Frame chaser explained it years ago.

[molten flame]

RDNA3 looks to have driver overhead issues almost as bad as Nvidia

[nocturne drift]

Nah I think it's cpu bottleneck.

It's 1080p high

[molten flame]

different story at 1080p epic settings

[nocturne drift]

I don't watch Hardware Unbox so idk haha

His number for me personally isn't relevant

But monitor unbox.

Won't miss a video

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/palit-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-with-8gb-128-bit-vram-listed-by-retailer

esports GPU incoming

perfect for 720p

[nocturne drift]

EWWWWW

WAIT

https://twitter.com/GeForce_JacobF?t=8Om0qe6QxmYLyq2fl5NYgQ&s=09

Former evga Jacob is now Nvidia GeForce.

That's the ULTIMATE TROLL

[toxic wigeon]

8 gigs are you serious.

[pine anchor]

5700x or any Intel in that price area

[pine anchor]

Is there any razer mouse without cord

[toxic wigeon]

Razer viper mini.

[pine anchor]

There is cord

[toxic wigeon]

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/razer-viper-v2-pro-ultra-lightweight-wireless-esports-mouse-black-edition

My bad.

This is the wireless variant.

[pine anchor]

Maybe cheaper

[toxic wigeon]

AUD is a bit more pricier.

[pine anchor]

What’s that

[molten flame]

australian dollar

[prime jasper]

Wireless will still have a cord it just skips the part where it's attached to the mice

That is if you are using it correctly

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-confirms-radeon-rx-7600-8gb-and-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8gb-gpus

RX 7600 8GB too

so 7600XT is 16GB?

[prime jasper]

Dont think so

[molten flame]

well they're ignoring the 7600XT and going straight to the 7600

[prime jasper]

8GB most likely

[molten flame]

some reason the RX 7600 is being talked about but not the 7700 or 7800 and the XT variants

very weird

I think AMD is trying to stay ahead of Nvidia in VRAM capacity on all segments

[prime jasper]

Because they aren't faster than 6950xt

[molten flame]

yeah lol

7900XT is 10% faster than 6950XT so that means 7800XT can only match or lose to the 6950XT

I expect 7800XT to perform like 6900XT and 7700XT to be like 6800 non-XT

[prime jasper]

Horrible generation of gpu's overall both nvidia and radeon

[molten flame]

Nvidia did good with 4090 but that's it

also 4080 has impressive performance for being only 256-bit memory interface

AD104 and below are disappointing but that's because of Nvidia's segmentation

RTX 4070 would be impressive if it were named 4060Ti instead and was at least $100 cheaper

[pine anchor]

Can I use a wireless mouse on my Xbox?

[midnight crypt]

Has to be wired afaik

[molten flame]

best mouse is one that lets you play wired and wireless

[prime jasper]

6950xt still in stock along with 6800xt so makes no sense to release 7800xt

Amd trying to sell those before

[molten flame]

ngl RDNA2 was too good of a generation for AMD that they struggle to compete against it with new generation

was the closest AMD has been to Nvidia in performance in a decade

RDNA3 really isn't faster than RDNA2

[prime jasper]

6950xt for 700€ and 6800xt 570€ no shot the new could compete with these prices

[molten flame]

if you gave RDNA2 a 384-bit bus, it would perform like RDNA3 tbh

[prime jasper]

Gonna be more expensive

[molten flame]

if AMD made the 7900XTX monolithic it probably would be faster

[toxic wigeon]

64 gig 7950xtx.

[prime jasper]

7900xtx is fast but not 1300€ fast lol

[molten flame]

RTX 4090 should be $700

7900XTX $500

if 4090 was only $700, it would be non-profitable

the GPU die alone costs $400 to manufacture

[prime jasper]

since when you could restart windows explorer here

[pale quartz]

no the Xbox doesn't support the Bluetooth channel for external devices

[pale quartz]

since around 1.5 years ago

[pine anchor]

Fr?

So i have to buy a cable mouse

[prime jasper]

wireless will work if it comes with receiver

[pine anchor]

A little stick u mean?

[pale quartz]

be very careful

the receiver has to have its own transmission channel

if it is equipped with Bluetooth it won't work

[prime jasper]

logitech unifying receiver will work for example

also good to keep in mind mouse doesnt work in most of the apps on xbox and you cant navigate the UI with it. only certain games has support for it

keyboard however can navigate the menus and works in most apps

[pine anchor]

Yes I know

But I will buy a pc in the future

[pine anchor]

How is isy keyboard

Works Basilisk x hyperspeed on series s

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/modders-add-12gb-memory-to-radeon-rx-5600-xt-the-only-such-gpu-in-the-world

[pine anchor]

U prefer wireless or cord mouse

[rough scarab]

detachable cord 🗿

[prime jasper]

thats just dum

when you could just make it wireless

then you have also detachable cord

wireless is superior

[rough scarab]

that's kinda the point

[wispy knot]

guys i need help for my cpu usage 😦 system specs: 8700k & 1080ti 32gb ram.. when i'm playing 2042 my cpu usage always high.. % 85 or 90.. What can i do ?

[candid flame]

nothing you can do, it's a cpu heavy game

[molten flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/279074751392251905/1103705901069783070/image.png

immortals of aveum has RTX 2080 Super as minimum requirement

[molten coral]

Pretty old card by now

[candid flame]

UE5 right?

[ember bolt]

damn, can't play it then

[molten flame]

I doubt that's really minimum

[ember bolt]

they would exclude most of the pc players then

[nocturne drift]

2080 super is like a 3060ti

Damn that's actually crazy

[ember bolt]

that's gonna be some really bad pc sales then

[molten flame]

also CPU requirements don't make sense

3700x to 5700x is enough to be considered a jump from minimum to recommended

[terse glade]

[dry pike]

Kinda crazy. Although would suggest 8 cores to be minimum and that the game REALLY likes high Hz on at least a few of the cores.

[small zinc]

I do wished the 4090 was around $1,000

[midnight crypt]

That aint gonna happen any time soon

[pine anchor]

How can I download razer synapse on Xbox

[small zinc]

Probably will as soon as the inevitable 4090 Ti comes out.

Just like the 3090 dropped to $1,000 bucks

[coarse nimbus]

How are cpu/ram prices now?

[nocturne drift]

fairly cheap.

Ddr4 cheap as dirt.

[quick locust]

My A770 around min spec then lol

[sleek wraith]

@toxic wigeon

So I noticed you recommended me the g.skill trident z5 c30 5600Mhz but what if I get the 6000mhz

The 5600 isn't in stock when I look for it

[nocturne drift]

6000 cl36 is prob Samsung die. Will prob be slower but it should be fine if u are going 3D chip

[sleek wraith]

What if I literally only running 2042 and streaming?

[nocturne drift]

Ur fine no need to worry

Can u find smth that says expo?

Not super important

G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB Series (AMD Expo) 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin SDRAM DDR5 6000 CL30-38-38-96 1.35V Dual Channel Desktop Memory F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR (Matte Black) https://a.co/d/3Y867Go

Wow I didn't know ram is this cheap lol

[eternal herald]

https://www.vc-mp.org/

Vice City Multiplayer

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/geforce-rtx-4060-ti-retailer-listed-specs-look-worse-than-rtx-3060-ti

3060Ti has more Tensor, CUDA, Ray-tracing cores than 4060Ti, also almost double the memory bandwidth

[nocturne drift]

[midnight crypt]

Kneecapped card

Nvidia really hates their lower end customers

[toxic wigeon]

Why am I not surprised.

[pine anchor]

Works the Razer Basillisk x hyperspeed on series s?

[candid flame]

but hey, it has frame generation, that's worth buying right

[formal oxide]

Atmost if we did have in stock

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-neural-texture-compression-offers-4-times-higher-resolution-than-standard-compression-with-30-less-memory

[terse glade]

No one can beat Nvidia Software wise ):

Mate of mine bought an 7900 XT and struggling with VR on it (he likes to play flight simulator on it) and until this date no real VR driver support on AMD site

Also the adrenaline program is buggy for some reason

I recommend to undervolt it to keep the wattage under control (350 W on rocket league is a bit high xD) and when I suggested him to throttle the performance to 50% like I did with my RTX 2080 Super his PC starts to crash

I only undervolt with the GeForce experience program, don't want to fiddle with another programs and it never crashed

Basically it undervolts so good, I only lose in avg only like 5fps when I set it to 50%

125 W max wattage instead 220W with minimal performance loss

With just 3 clicks

[midnight crypt]

just tell him to limit fps ingame instead

[pine anchor]

Need help

I bought a keyboard for my Xbox and the y z button is Switched

And the „?“ button is also weird

[terse glade]

He don't like to limit his fps because he said he needs every fps in rocket league

[untold turret]

my computer is still having a very difficult time running 2042, is anyone here able to help schedule a time with me later today to fix this?

[nocturne drift]

I used to do that and helped over 10 people here lol

now its just memeing around

[nocturne drift]

Debauer said he is getting email and messages about coil whine on Z790 B650 and X670 near the ram area. DDR5 go crazy lol

[midnight crypt]

Pretty sure my board has coil whine

[prime jasper]

I only hear the case fans

Gpu coil whine once when my loading screen fps wasn't capped

So it was like 1300

[toxic wigeon]

My radeon 5800hd had coil REEEE.

[terse glade]

Wait RAM can coil whine?

[nocturne drift]

Board coil whine near the ram area

[cloud lake]

you drunk Hardie? its never been a issue for me that software

[terse glade]

You don't even use VR...

[cloud lake]

I USED TO! before my wrist fucked up

I got this GPU for VR

I got a vive @terse glade you really don't listen

[terse glade]

Your vive is already stone age

[cloud lake]

I am saving for a steam VR 2

but I might use vive soon, till steam VR 2

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-to-show-ff-e-core-based-cpu-with-backside-pdn

[nocturne drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnR9j7ljAx4

I remember debauer and an intel guy talking about this. They mentioned this getting rid of loadline calibration. Which is very interesting

[molten flame]

[merry wagon]

Would y'all say a RX6700XT and a Ryzen 7 57/800X a good combo?

[nocturne drift]

sure

[toxic wigeon]

Hey. Has there even been a graphic card with an IN input?

For the sake of rendering alternate stuff on the computer?

[pale quartz]

most do actually

it's included in most iGPUs with the in on the board port

discrete, not really

[toxic wigeon]

Ah!

Makes sense.

[thorny thicket]

I need some help with not being able to launch battlefield 2042 (directx error)

[quick locust]

This is not a support channel, find help on forum

[thorny thicket]

already looked there

[quick locust]

!support

!!support

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[dense urchin]

My pc keeps closing apps down such as discord and google randomly and then just recently it shut off completely and turned back on itself as if i restarted it when all i was doing was watching youtube. Ive never experienced anything like this before and cant really think what could be the issue, anyone else experienced this before ?

[nocturne drift]

Yes. Could be multiple things. A common one is ram instability

[fair coyote]

Anyone feel like the 99% fps is low after the update?

[molten flame]

This is why DDR5 CL40 4800 and DDR4 CL18 2133 are the best, guaranteed stability

[nocturne drift]

[pine anchor]

I have a 1080ti can anyone build me the rest?

[terse glade]

no

[pine anchor]

?

[pale quartz]

no lol

[pine anchor]

🤥

[candid flame]

did you mean find you the matching parts with your 1080ti?

buy a prebuilt, rip out the gpu, put the 1080ti in, done

quick meth

[dense urchin]

if I resit my ram do you think that could help solve it if it is a ram issue ?

[pine anchor]

I have a Ryzen 7 5700x too

And 1080ti

[nocturne drift]

Probably not

[storm osprey]

probably not, but might as well try? swap slots too

[thorny thicket]

anyways, its been longer than a day, I got support from 4 different people and none of the things they said fixed it. I reinstalled the game and everything

[small zinc]

https://www.crucial.com/ssd/t700/CT2000T700SSD3

But am I going to probably pre-order this because I'm gimpy?

Yeah.

[prime jasper]

12,400MB/s reads

[small zinc]

Gen 5 drives are here

There's only two Gen 5 drives "available" right now though. The Gigabyte Aorus, and this Crucial T700

So I'm sure there are going to be faster and more efficient drives

I may even hold out to see what SK Hynix has in store down the line. Not only does SK Hynix have quite literally the fastest Gen 4 drives money can buy, they also use .10 volts less than every other drive available currently, thus enough to not require a stupid heatsink, or throttling issues.

[prime jasper]

I read the techpowerup review for the corsair gen 5 and it seems like you absolutely need a fan for the gen5 ssds

[sleek aspen]

Okie fellows, will this setup bottleque my GPU?

I've got the AMD FX 4350

and 7900 XTX

with 8 gb of DDR 3 Ram

[prime jasper]

absolutely

I am not sure if that is a joke

[sleek aspen]

No not a joke

The FX 4350 is a timeless CPU

With peak budget gaming performance

16gb of RAM is overrated

imo

[toxic wigeon]

You won't gain anything unless you upgrade your CPU.

[mellow orchid]

So the i5-6600 is probably my textures taking forever to load problem I take it? haha

[nocturne drift]

2080ti for 240

I want to get it but I have no use :C

[molten flame]

Not a kingpin or HoF so won't be fun for OC

[nocturne drift]

True but hell of a deal.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-to-launch-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8gb-this-month-16gb-model-planned-for-july

4060Ti has 8GB and 16GB variants

4060 might too

[toxic wigeon]

LOL.

[candid flame]

why release an 8gb vram card now

[candid flame]

this has to be a scam right, ain't no way a 3060ti and i9 cpu are worth about 200 euro

[midnight crypt]

Probably doesn't work

Or just a bait price

[toxic wigeon]

I9 2900K.

[nocturne drift]

Scam

[north crow]

tfw a 4060 Ti has more vram than my 4070 Ti

[molten flame]

[gaunt palm]

What's better an i7-8700k or an R5 5600x with an Rx 5700xt.

[nocturne drift]

5600x

[eager saffron]

Probably as a more affordable option for the RTX 3060 Ti, I guess?

But still, the Radeon RX 5500 GPU that came with my HP PC still works fine for me.

[candid flame]

yeah, just get an amd gpu

cheaper, performs better

[toxic wigeon]

5600x easily cause of cluster multi thread.

[pine anchor]

3070ti or 6800xt

[rough scarab]

do you use dlss or rtx

[pine anchor]

Idk what’s that

[prime jasper]

16GB on 128bit

[prime jasper]

6800xt

[pale quartz]

3070 (including the ti) is a compromised product, get the 6800xt, isnt a competition

[molten flame]

https://www.techspot.com/news/98604-amd-planning-replace-agesa-firmware-open-source-alternative.html

AMD said openSIL is still a work-in-progress solution, but it's getting closer to feature parity with AGESA. The new library could eventually become part of AMD UEFI firmware for Zen, EPYC, Ryzen and all the other (x86) computing platforms sold by the company.

[nocturne drift]

My friend in MC discord is selling 12700k for 150 and 6800 for 300

That's pretty much jedi survivor ready LOL

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFNi3YNJXbY

[molten flame]

RX 7800XT to be same price as RTX 4070 ($599) but faster

[toxic wigeon]

I found a computer tech store help.

@nocturne drift There's a fucking computer that's 5800 AUD with a 2080ti and either an i9 gen 9 or gen 10 cpu.

Like.

Bruh.

They're selling 7900xtx's and all that good juice.

7800x3ds sell instantly too.

[nocturne drift]

💀

[toxic wigeon]

I feel like a kid in a lolly shop looking at all the parts. Like wow look aios, storage drives and the likes.

I bet you feel amazing finding something like cheap ass parts and tuning them to their Max.

[nocturne drift]

oh 100% I was addicted last year, thats y I did 12 builds for my friends

this year not so much as table tennis took over. Also gpu prices in second hand is actually finally getting cheaper. I found a 3090ti for 550 today.

last year me would scoop it up immediately

if I were to make a low 1000 dollar build rn Id do 12700k from a friend for 150, a open box z690 mobo for 100ish that 3090ti, ima call it Can run Jedi Survivor build

[toxic wigeon]

Could of bought it for me and sent it to me!!!

[nocturne drift]

u are in EU right?

if u are in US I'd actually do it LOL

[toxic wigeon]

AUS.

[nocturne drift]

even worse LOL

[toxic wigeon]

REEEEEE.

Hahaha!

I'd pay for the shipping anyways.

[nocturne drift]

I mean dont u just get a 6950XT at that point or smth?

[toxic wigeon]

Outta stock!

[nocturne drift]

damn

[toxic wigeon]

I just passed my interview which is why I'm fookin ecstatic lol.

In seriousness.

I'd have to buy a new power supply for the 3090ti.

No way my computer can handle it. Maybe?

[nocturne drift]

what is ur computer

https://www.pccasegear.com/category/193_2142/graphics-cards/radeon-rx-6800-xt

I found this

[toxic wigeon]

Rm850x with a 3080 and 5800x3d.

Ye.

I'm good with what I have.

[molten flame]

Fx-4100 + RTX 4090 gang

still bottlenecked at 16K

[nocturne drift]

w8 wtf y u need a 3090ti

[toxic wigeon]

Free power!

[nocturne drift]

lol

[toxic wigeon]

I know my 3080 can last me a bit tho in seriousness.

I can probably wait for a 6070 or a 9800xt.

[nocturne drift]

yeah do that

[toxic wigeon]

5080 / 8900xtx if I had the expendible income.

Those will be 4k cards that'll last for ages on 1440p.

[toxic wigeon]

With upscaling I can easily squeeze it out too.

[quick locust]

arc gaming

[small zinc]

Wtf….

Lol

Please tell me not serious? Has to be a troll right?

[quick locust]

[thorny thicket]

Anyone else here has the directx "res" function issue? I cannot launch my game. I tried doing everything on the forum, contacted steam, ea,... and they all said they couldnt fix it. I reinstalled my drivers, my game, I did every possible thing I could do. Please god dont tell me I cant post this here, I've tried everywhere else. At this point i'm just getting scammed

[merry wagon]

Would y'all say a stock cooler would work fine on a R7 5800X?

[pale quartz]

yes it will

[tired notch]

the fact that u have an arc neon

either ur a realy big fan of arc intel or you work for intel and arc was ur project lol

[pine anchor]

Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 or ASRock B550M Pro 4

[pale quartz]

it doesn't matter

[molten flame]

both low-end

[pine anchor]

It’s for mid class

[quick locust]

It's pretty nice to have, I like it

I got so much arc merch lol

[pine anchor]

A better option? In the area

[toxic wigeon]

There's nothing really better.

They do what they do.

[nocturne drift]

table tennis blade lottery is worse than silicone lottery holy

I wont bich about silicone lottery again LOL

[midnight crypt]

It's already on the floor

What do now?

[proud trellis]

anyone here use a Logitech mouse, the app keeps resetting my DPI to 100 everytime i load up my pc and i cant find anything to fix it

[thorny thicket]

Anyone else here has the directx "res" function issue? I cannot launch my game. I tried doing everything on the forum, contacted steam, ea,... and they all said they couldnt fix it. I reinstalled my drivers, my game, I did every possible thing I could do. Please god dont tell me I cant post this here, I've tried everywhere else. At this point i'm just getting scammed

[pale quartz]

just cause youve tried everywhere else doesnt mean youre allowed to post it here

[thorny thicket]

Why wouldn't I be allowed to post it here? Its a game issue

[pale quartz]

because the channel isnt for game issue support

!!support

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[thorny thicket]

I literally tried all of those💀

[pale quartz]

and its still not for this channel

[thorny thicket]

I'm looking for people with the same issue and there are dozens

Its awesome that the bug has been in the game since 2021 yet still unfixed

[pale quartz]

you can complain ig, doesnt change anything lol

[thorny thicket]

Found that out after spending 5 days in support tickets, I guess I'll be waiting till 2042 for the bug to be fixed

[pale quartz]

cool

[nocturne drift]

I just brought a very un nessasry tech for table tennis

A dehumidifier cabinet

To keep the table tennis blade dry, so it's more power and crispy.

I live in south USA and very humid and even I think this is dumb

[tired notch]

nah i feel you i come from a place that is like80 - 90% humid lol

[toxic wigeon]

Oh that reminds me. Deco what driver version are you on? My mate is getting a bit of driver crashes on 2042 and I would at least like to inform him on what's good.

He just got his 7900xtx.

It's amazing.

[nocturne drift]

Gets abit of driver crashes, but it's amazing

[quick locust]

Bad drivers? Never heard of her

[prime jasper]

That is unfortunately 7900xtx experience

[regal lagoon]

hey

does anyone know if its worth upgrading from an intel i7 11700 to a better cpu when i have a 3080

[nocturne drift]

nah its decently balanced

[terse glade]

Rather play on a 3050 then experience constant driver crashes but that's just me

[toxic wigeon]

Nvidia's drivers have been quite shocking too.

[pale quartz]

latest RDNA 23.4.3

[quick locust]

3050 stinky

Worst value card they have en

Rn

[pine anchor]

Can I use a 600 power adapter on 6750xt

[pale quartz]

yes

even if that's a terrible idea to use a 600w PSU

[pine anchor]

Why

[pale quartz]

cause you won't be able to upgrade to another GPU in your life lol

[west sky]

bro just get a console

(i dont wanna start an argument or anything, just makin a joke here)

[pale quartz]

tldr is it can still be used

the card doesn't consume enough power even with a 13900k to breach the power limit, its just not a good idea for extended use cases

and considering the cost between it and higher wattages are minimal

[dry pike]

I always recommend PSUs that are quite a bit larger, then you can run fanless most of he time, hit a good power efficiency and it will last multiple systems. But the question was not what I recommended, it was if X could run Y 🙂

Just wanted to show it was easily googable

[pale quartz]

well yeah the secondary reason of power efficiency curves means lower wattages cost you more from your wallet in your power bill, which is worse if you keep it for years

wouldn't advise anyone buys a non ATX 3 power supply nowadays anyways

[prime jasper]

Is ATX 3.0 strictly a standard for the internal parts or is it for the power cables too

Because I've seen ATX 3.0 PSUs without 12VHPWR 16 pin

[pale quartz]

it's for the internal parts aswell (cables included)

ATX 3 defines the pin layout of the 16 pin power adapter, as in it's physically different for power transmission, it's not mandated though

you just put yourself at a large fire risk not using what's defined in the specification

[pine anchor]

Why

[pale quartz]

because they have much higher power requirements lol

don't skimp out on your power supply tldr

it's not worth it

[prime jasper]

you can, deco isn't always right. he thinks people have to always upgrade to highest spec. 600w will be enough for mid range years to come

[toxic wigeon]

@storm osprey I'm looking at graduating from my g203 cause family needs a new mouse, so I want to tell them this mouse back to them and get a new mouse.

What do you think of the Viper ultimate?

I don't see any difference between the v2 and that.

[pale quartz]

this is absolutely false

the 4080 is considered the new mid range and that consumes 300 watts of power, if you think 600 watts is enough for years to come you're wilfully ignoring higher power consumption across the board

[prime jasper]

it is not

its high end

[pale quartz]

it's high end? it's 30 to 35% slower than the 4090

[prime jasper]

mid range havent even released yet this gen

[pale quartz]

that's not high end, it's mid range by any calculation standards

[prime jasper]

What is the 4070 then 🤔

nothing

[pale quartz]

you're living in a parallel universe lol

[prime jasper]

thats how important 4070 is

[prime jasper]

4080 is not mid range no matter how much you think that is the case lol

[pale quartz]

based on what

because the maths says so

[prime jasper]

doenst even matter whats the performance, it is not seen as mid range by anyone but you

[pale quartz]

??

the performance doesn't matter?

[prime jasper]

no

[pale quartz]

that's literally what's used for ranges?

[prime jasper]

its not

the price is

always has been

[pale quartz]

no it definitely isn't lol

it hasn't been for years

and it's not now

[prime jasper]

you are just delusional

like always

[pale quartz]

let me give you a history lesson on "mid tier performance", the 2080ti when Turing launched was the high end performance tier because nothing competed with it, the closest was the 2080 which was $700 which is 25-30% slower for the mid range

[prime jasper]

price is always the factor not the performance, this is agreed by every reviewer

so

rip

[pale quartz]

it doesn't matter what metric you use

you're still dead wrong

[prime jasper]

you are dreaming

[pale quartz]

sure go tell Nvidia I'm dreaming cause they're the one who set prices not me

apparently you're smarter than them

and AMD aswell

[prime jasper]

there is no mid range cards this gen

[pale quartz]

because.. you said so?

[prime jasper]

no matter how you look at it

[pale quartz]

just because you don't like prices doesn't mean they don't exist lol

[prime jasper]

you are really dense

goodbye

[pale quartz]

bye then I suppose

lol

[nocturne drift]

7900xt and 7900xtx are mid range

[pale quartz]

I advise you read the original topic

it wasn't about what's mid range, now, it's about a few years time

besides the original point is mute because you won't even be able to run "newer gen" mid ranges on an older power supply when the ATX 3 power port is mandated

[nocturne drift]

I hope gpu power requirment goes down tho

[pale quartz]

the wattage requirements probably~ will stay the same

voltage different story

[nocturne drift]

it has to for high end unless nvidia does 2 12pins

thats beyond stupid

[pale quartz]

Blackwell isn't going to be a reduction based on the wide open bust anyways

[pale quartz]

lol at that point you're approaching thermally impossible barriers for cooling

600 watts is nearly impossible to cool on air nevermind higher

unless they want a physical brick on a PCIe slot

[nocturne drift]

current 4090s can cool 600w np

but 12 pin is 600w rated

even lets say u add 60 from pcie

660w LUL

anymore is outta spec

thats w8ing for GN to sht on them

[pale quartz]

the cable doesn't push through 600 directly the card is firmware locked to 600 maximum

it'll draw from the PCIe and 540 through the cable

[nocturne drift]

I know so they got only 60w play room max

[pale quartz]

unless the Nvidia card ignores firmware bug is back

[nocturne drift]

and GN did furmark test and FE draw 666w

devilish

[pale quartz]

so it's back I love nvidia cards

[nocturne drift]

that was tested at launch

[pale quartz]

they already ignore software locks half the time and now it ignores firmware

great design

[nocturne drift]

https://youtu.be/j9vC9NBL8zo?t=1017

[pale quartz]

not surprised

[nocturne drift]

anyways I am impressed with 40 series

all overbuilt and 0 rma for months

just made me realize how dogsht 30 series was reliability wise

except the 3090ti

dry cabinet comes tomorrow

excited

putting all my table tennis blade in there for weeks

[quick locust]

Intel gpu drivers getting decent

[ivory creek]

will be good for the market when the intel gpus become reliable for real

good to hear

[west sky]

nvidia going down

intel going up

[ivory creek]

im happy with my 3090 tho, even tho the fans go up to max and sounds like a dragon or something every now and then lol

[west sky]

30 series mightve been decent

except the price part

but the 40 series are def a failure

[nocturne drift]

nah 30 series isnt the best.

[west sky]

i didnt say it was the best

i said it was decent

[nocturne drift]

40 series is awesome except the price

[west sky]

and...

well the fire

and heat

[nocturne drift]

heat?

40 series are the most power efficient gpus ever

[west sky]

ehmm

im pretty sure they werent

[nocturne drift]

and it isnt even close

[west sky]

i think it was the other way

but not sure

[nocturne drift]

nah

30 series was not even much more efficient than the 20 series largely due to samsung 8nm and power sucking gddr6x

[west sky]

yep i completely lost u here

[nocturne drift]

30 series also had really bad problems with mlcc vs pos cap. multiple manufacture cheap out due to shortage, all in all 40 series are awesome tech and reliability wise but nvidia completely f it up with naming and pricing.

[west sky]

i dont understand any of the words like mlcc, pos cap and more

im not much of a gpu guy so yea

sry

[ivory creek]

i read somewhere around release that even with its high price the 4090 was the most bang for the buck claiming that 4080 is too cut down on. but idk if its true

[nocturne drift]

100% true

4090 is the best bang for the buck

if u have a very very fast cpu.

[ivory creek]

cool

[nocturne drift]

When I saw the spec of 4080 I was like da f is this

but tbf 30 series 3080 to 3090 uses almost the same tier of die. GA102

making them perform pretty close on top of the amount of power they draw.

[ivory creek]

ye i got my 3090 for a good price from an auction. thats why i got it

and since i got a 4k monitor the extra vram doesnt hurt

[nocturne drift]

yeah I own a 3090 as well. I am happy with it as well

[ivory creek]

specially since games like hogwarts and last of us at times eat more than 10gb vram

[nocturne drift]

looking back 4090 to 4080 jump in core count is 68% and 2080ti (TU102) to 2080 (TU104) jump in core count is 48%

[ivory creek]

didnt ubisoft recommend 11gb vram for their highres texture pack in farcry 6

thats like a middlefinger to all 3080 users

lol

[nocturne drift]

lol

3080 12gb

I think watchdog legion was the first game that just go over 10-12gb of vram

high power 2080ti really aged like fine wine LOL

[toxic wigeon]

6950xt aged well too.

[nocturne drift]

yeah rdna 2 was awesome 6800 and up

[ivory creek]

ye i watched benchmarks where 3060ti 3070 and 3080 performed worse in certain scenes than 3060 only because the cards didnt have the vram

[toxic wigeon]

At release what was the point but as the 7000 series came out its pretty a super cheap, relevant gpu to grab if you intend to get a 7900xt.

That reminds me.

I wonder how good radeon reflex is.

[pale quartz]

Radeon anti lag is just a mirror copy of reflex, you won't enable it in 90% of games because you're CPU bound most of the time

just turn on a frame limiter

[pine anchor]

✔️Prozessor: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 - 6 Kerne - 12 Threads
✔️Gehäuse: Sharkoon V1000 Window
✔️Mainbord: MSI B450M PRO-VHD MAX
✔️Ram: 16GB Samsung G.Skill DDR4, 2x8GB
✔️Festplatte: Intel SSD 660p 512GB, M.2 PCIe 3.0x4 und eine 1000GB HDD WD Blue
✔️Grafikkarte: GTX 1660TI 6GB VRAM, INNO3D
✔️Netzteil: 500 Watt be quiet! Halbmodular
✔️Betriebssystem: Windows 10 Pro aktiviert!
✔️Kaltgerätestecker

Is this okay for 250€? I know it’s German but I guess I can understand it

[pale quartz]

yes but with the massive catch that you must absolutely have the most powerful processor

nvidias driver overhead plagues the 4090's performance and it doesn't scale fully, having anything less than state of the art on the processor side will compromise your performance

this does not mean "a powerful processor", it means the latest generation of what is out

[candid flame]

250 euro for a whole system with a 1660ti? yeah sure, why not

it's basically free

[pine anchor]

It was in usage

Via eBay

[crude pewter]

Yes that’s good for €250

[crude pewter]

Make sure to double check everything if your using eBay

[pine anchor]

I have a new one for 375

Kolink Observatory RGB schwarz mit
Glasfenster
AMD Ryzen 5 3500X (6× 3.6GHz / 4.1GHz Turbo)
Standard AMD/INTEL Box Kühlung
MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX
16GB (2×8GB) DDR4 GSkill 3200MHz
AEGIS
512GB Patriot VPN100 M.2 PCIe 3.0
×4 NVME (L 3100MB/s ; S 2200MB/s)
2000GB SATA 6GB/s 5400гр WD
Blue WD20EZAZ
6GB Palit GTX1660Super StormX
650W AZZA PSAZ 80+ Bronze
Garantie und Service
2 Jahre Garantie
Software
Windows 10 Home 64bit (Installiert

I have a 5700x and a 1080ti to build in

[storm osprey]

Solid especially for the commonly on sale price. I don’t like the weight and the buttons in both side, nor do I like the rubber grips though.

[wet notch]

so im considering getting a pc, atm my choices are between these 2 cards:
PNY GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Verto LED Triple Fan Gainward GeForce RTX 3070 The Phoenix
is the the 4070 much better?

[pale quartz]

price?

[wet notch]

it's actually a prebuilt pc so i'm not sure tbh :D, but let me show the complete specs and then it will show the overall price

the right side pc is like 100 dollars more

[pale quartz]

second its no competition

[wet notch]

which sounds like an ez choice i guess, but i dunno, i thought it would be more expensive

so wondering like "whats wrong with it" lol

[pale quartz]

theres nothing wrong with it the second is infinitely better isnt even a question

[wet notch]

alright, sweet

thanks, apparently it was 400 dollars cheaper than normal, some sales thing, maybe thats why

thanks btw

[pale quartz]

np

[toxic wigeon]

Wait buttons on the other side as well? Ayo that's fucky.

It's like 120 Aud here and is quite "cheap"

[storm osprey]

yea its extremely cheap for what it offers, just something i wouldnt personally buy myself

i would pick up the v2 though, even if it is expensive

v2 gets rid of rgb, right side buttons, rubber grips and is lighter. the wireless tech is the best too

[toxic wigeon]

I'm familiar with the weight of the g203.

I don't need the rubber grips either but they'll be nice.

[river light]

Yall think a cpu upgrade will save my game from having unstable fps? it goes below 60fps even on low settings with ryzen 7 5700G + 3070 and 32gb ram